| 01:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+mats_cd03> lol dude operates a mixer. /// probly part of the trap |
| 01:14 |
kakobrekla |
fucking do idiots. |
| 01:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
oh mp sez ATC iz ded nao? |
| 01:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
we'll see |
| 01:21 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
the pool or the coin? |
| 01:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
well it's still got pool |
| 01:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
and hash |
| 01:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
someone sold down the mkt tho |
| 01:23 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ahh - that would be easy to do |
| 01:24 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
yea pool's still going. I was under impression it was for amusement purposes / didn't realize it had any particular value |
| 01:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
well it's a decent testcoin |
| 01:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
and it's no premine |
| 01:27 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
51% attack would be a cinch too - especially with majority of hashing on p2pool |
| 01:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe maybe good tool to practice overtaking btc then |
| 01:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's Altcoin, it is what it is |
| 01:31 |
PinkPosixPXE |
mircea_popescu: I'll send you 0.1BTC if you throw me some rank, you can send me pictures of your titties as well, with a string of text written on them. ;) |
| 01:31 |
BingoBoingo |
!up fivezerotwo |
| 01:31 |
fivezerotwo |
ty although i'm just lurking |
| 01:33 |
BingoBoingo |
k |
| 01:35 |
nubbins` |
found my OLPC xo-1 from back in 2007 |
| 01:37 |
nubbins` |
they're actually still updating everything |
| 01:45 |
mircea_popescu |
PinkPosixPXE wait wut ? |
| 01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you've missed a lot in the logs. |
| 01:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
apparently so |
| 01:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
halp? |
| 01:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
i thought i read em all... |
| 01:56 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, can't upload files, dir not writable |
| 01:58 |
cazalla |
at least not via wordpress anyway |
| 02:03 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla uh so make it writable or what. |
| 02:04 |
cazalla |
dunno, i used pos file manager in cpanel so doesn't matter |
| 02:04 |
mircea_popescu |
a i think wordpress has a narrow size limit, may be 1mb or somethign |
| 02:05 |
PinkPosixPXE |
mircea_popescu: I'll send you 0.1 BTC, same deal, if you provide me with some WOT rank, and if you want to do some personal shots, with a string of my choice, that's highly encouraged as well. |
| 02:06 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate PinkPosixPXE -1 Sure, there you go. |
| 02:06 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user PinkPosixPXE has been recorded. |
| 02:06 |
PinkPosixPXE |
except, it's not a competition, you just get the 0.1 BTC |
| 02:06 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/digitalbtc-release-september-quarterly-report/ |
| 02:06 |
assbot |
digitalBTC Release September Quarterly Report | Qntra.net |
| 02:06 |
othernubs` |
but without competition, we have nothing |
| 02:07 |
PinkPosixPXE |
well if you all want to compete, that's fine too. But I'd secure the 0.1 for mircea_popescu |
| 02:07 |
PinkPosixPXE |
but he doesn't seem fond of the idea |
| 02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla i dun get it. how exactly they earned 6k btc ? |
| 02:07 |
cazalla |
they say they mined it |
| 02:07 |
mircea_popescu |
not through that entire mintsy bs, "allowing people to add their computers" to the... world's largest first and best exchange nobody uses |
| 02:08 |
mircea_popescu |
they mined 240 blocks in 3 months ? |
| 02:09 |
othernubs` |
3 blocks a day |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 52/4 / 2 * 2036 |
| 02:09 |
gribble |
13234 |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 240 / 13234 |
| 02:09 |
gribble |
0.0181351065438 |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;bc,stats |
| 02:09 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 326129 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 462 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36016235848.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.89623 |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
hm wrong one. |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;bc,hash |
| 02:09 |
gribble |
Error: "bc,hash" is not a valid command. |
| 02:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;nethash |
| 02:09 |
gribble |
251094498.651 |
| 02:10 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 0.0181351065438 * 251094498.651 |
| 02:10 |
gribble |
4553625.4856 |
| 02:10 |
mircea_popescu |
they got 4,5ph then ? |
| 02:10 |
othernubs` |
C- student did not show work |
| 02:10 |
cazalla |
they've done a few million dollar deals with bitfury, so they claim anyway, i don't know who is jewing who anymore |
| 02:10 |
othernubs` |
would not etc etc |
| 02:11 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla somehow i have trouble believing this story, but hey. |
| 02:11 |
cazalla |
well the zhenya guy apparently is russian mafia |
| 02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
derp. |
| 02:12 |
cazalla |
who knows though, guy had puff daddy perform for his missus at her birthday bash |
| 02:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i like the brick and mortar way this is going. |
| 02:13 |
mircea_popescu |
weren';t we discussing a month or so ago the unfortunate affairs of a puff daddy promoter, ended up in jail for fraud ? |
| 02:13 |
cazalla |
anyway, i'm not claiming it's factual, they are and it's what they submitted to asx, i find it interesting to follow this lot though |
| 02:13 |
mircea_popescu |
is it actually published on an oz gov site anywhere ? |
| 02:14 |
cazalla |
it is published on the asx so just as good |
| 02:14 |
cazalla |
http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20141020/pdf/42t0mqrygyzd74.pdf |
| 02:14 |
mircea_popescu |
aha aite then. |
| 02:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;tslb |
| 02:16 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 29 minutes and 8 seconds |
| 02:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
scams |
| 02:17 |
cazalla |
the company never gives specific information as to whether they mine on their own or part of a pool or how much hashing power they have |
| 02:20 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google bre-x |
| 02:20 |
gribble |
Bre-X - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X>; Bre-X $6 Billion Gold Fraud Story - Business Insider: <http://www.businessinsider.com/bre-x-6-billion-gold-fraud-indonesia-2014-10?op=1>; A Lode of Lies: How Bre-X Fooled Everyone - Washington Post: <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/canada/stories/brex051897.htm> |
| 02:26 |
cazalla |
so is it problematic to continue posting about them? i'm not claiming what they published is legit, it's more just to cover what they claim until such time it's proven to be a fraud |
| 02:27 |
cazalla |
and not much news around today either |
| 02:30 |
punkman |
;;isitup log.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 02:30 |
gribble |
Error: "isitup" is not a valid command. |
| 02:30 |
punkman |
;;isitdown log.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 02:30 |
gribble |
log.bitcoin-assets.com is down |
| 02:31 |
punkman |
'ello |
| 02:31 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla well no, since they filed and etc it's solid news. |
| 02:32 |
punkman |
"We're just sending you a courtesy e-mail to let you know that the funds you deposited into your Envato Market account some time ago are about to expire." |
| 02:33 |
punkman |
"Envato expires cash deposits automatically after one year as a small percentage of users leave money in their account for long periods of time and cannot be contacted. Unfortunately Envato cannot be responsible for holding cash for indefinite periods" |
| 02:33 |
punkman |
fuckers |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla so if they bought 4.5Ph from bitfury that'd have cost them about |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 4500 * 1700 |
| 02:34 |
gribble |
7650000 |
| 02:34 |
mircea_popescu |
do they list 7.65 mn in assets ? |
| 02:40 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.crimeflare.com/ |
| 02:40 |
assbot |
CrimeFlare |
| 02:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"CloudFlare is a venture-funded startup that routes around Internet abuse by acting as a reverse proxy." wait wut ? |
| 02:44 |
mircea_popescu |
this looks and feels like that "steve gibson research" nut. |
| 02:45 |
cazalla |
i think they claim they spent 2.5m with bitfury |
| 02:46 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't get gear to mine 6k bitcoins in 3 months for 2.5mn from bitfury, that's certain. |
| 02:47 |
mircea_popescu |
either they're lying about the bitcoins incoming, or they're paying a 5-10% to rent hashes. |
| 02:47 |
mircea_popescu |
prolly both, i guess. |
| 02:48 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, see if the russian mobster puff daddy guy is willing to give you an interview. you got at least 10 decent q's to ask him in here. |
| 02:50 |
cazalla |
here we go "One such customer is the Australian stock market listed Digital BTC6, which purchased mining hardware from BitFury in March, May and August ((March and May purchase was a $2 million investment, August was $1.3 million.) of 2014. |
| 02:51 |
cazalla |
so 3.3m to earn 6k in past quarter |
| 02:51 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao this book is cooked. |
| 02:51 |
cazalla |
which is probably why they don't get specific about hashing power, where they mine etc etc |
| 02:52 |
cazalla |
i think they probably get the extra from skimming cloudhashing customers |
| 02:52 |
mircea_popescu |
there's not enough in that. |
| 02:52 |
cazalla |
plus they claimed to have sold old hardware and rent out 10% or 15% of their own hashing power |
| 02:52 |
mircea_popescu |
but anyway, my earlier figures were based on a june buy. |
| 02:53 |
mircea_popescu |
if they bought in march... |
| 02:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nethash back then was just about 25 ph total. like fuck they bought 1/5th of the network and nobody knew. |
| 03:01 |
BingoBoingo |
%p |
| 03:01 |
atcbot |
>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 2345.62 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 8.00 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.76 TH/s |
| 03:01 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 03:01 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 469547.73 Est. Next Diff: 1854543.95 in 1717 blocks (#48384) Est. % Change: 294.96 |
| 03:12 |
punkman |
BingoBoingo, is the vicious diff cycle gonna repeat there? |
| |
~ 42 minutes ~ |
| 03:54 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/kraken-considers-purchasing-mtgox-assets-as-it-pushes-into-japan/ |
| 03:54 |
assbot |
Kraken Considers Purchasing MtGox Assets As It Pushes Into Japan | Qntra.net |
| |
~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~ |
| 04:58 |
Apocalyptic |
!isup log.bitcoin-assets.com |
| |
~ 1 hours 28 minutes ~ |
| 06:26 |
punkman |
http://mashable.com/2014/10/19/avoca-shark-attack/ |
| 06:26 |
assbot |
'It's Not the Shark's Fault': Aussie Teen Surfer Laughs After Shark Bites Her Leg |
| 06:29 |
punkman |
http://online.thatsmags.com/post/photos-beijing-marathon-runners-trudge-through-hazardous-smog-in-gas-masks |
| 06:29 |
cazalla |
punkman, a wobbegong is nothing like a great white |
| 06:30 |
cazalla |
those and port jackson sharks bite cunts all the time |
| 06:30 |
punkman |
cazalla: I wouldn't know, no sharks around here |
| 06:31 |
cazalla |
sorta like thinking a manul is a tiger |
| 06:32 |
punkman |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/18/poor-kids-who-do-everything-right-dont-do-better-than-rich-kids-who-do-everything-wrong/ |
| 06:32 |
assbot |
Poor kids who do everything right don’t do better than rich kids who do everything wrong - The Washington Post |
| 06:34 |
cazalla |
"Affluent parents talk to their kids three more hours a week on average than poor parents, which is critical during a child's formative early years." <<< I wonder about this with my son, we're both with him 24/7 |
| 06:35 |
punkman |
young brains need input, I suppose that's good |
| 06:37 |
punkman |
http://www.shareable.net/blog/the-exterminators-want-ad |
| 06:37 |
assbot |
The Exterminator's Want-Ad - Shareable |
| 06:38 |
cazalla |
yeah, i've read to my son almost every day since he was born, teach him basic sign language as well but he just turned 9 months and is yet to use it, i've read the bright kids usually pick it up sooner |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
| 06:59 |
bounce |
mix in some foreign languages while at it |
| 07:00 |
chetty |
kids won{t communicate unless they need to, are you over helpful? |
| 07:02 |
cazalla |
bounce, my parents never taught me :\ chetty, sorta have to be helpful with a 9 month old, least in my limited experience, can't cook his own meal or get the titty ready |
| 07:05 |
cazalla |
anyway, that's qntra downunder signing off, another beer and zzz, i'm sure qntra US and A will be on soon |
| |
~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 07:35 |
jurov |
;;isup bitcoin-assets.com |
| 07:35 |
gribble |
bitcoin-assets.com is down |
| 07:38 |
jurov |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/daniel-j-bernstein-speeks-on-keeping-crypto-insecure << jawohl |
| 07:38 |
assbot |
Daniel J Bernstein Speaks on Keeping Crypto Insecure | Qntra.net |
| |
~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 08:01 |
fluffypony |
https://beta.ciphertrade.com/help/site-notifications |
| 08:01 |
assbot |
CipherTrade |
| 08:01 |
fluffypony |
"Many apologies for my personal absence recently and the drop in communications it has contributed to. Unfortunately I have experienced my own period of illness, which came on quite suddenly, over the past ten weeks." |
| 08:01 |
fluffypony |
came on quite suddenly |
| 08:01 |
fluffypony |
over the past ten weeks |
| 08:01 |
fluffypony |
boiling frogs. |
| 08:02 |
fluffypony |
if he means it came on quite suddenly and then lasted 10 weeks...well damn, son, I'd be in ICU |
| 08:03 |
fluffypony |
the worst I ever had in my entire life was this crazy hayfever where I hardly left my bed for 4 weeks and my nose poured buckets |
| 08:03 |
fluffypony |
in those 4 weeks I saw a doctor twice and a specialist once |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 08:21 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/107-about-bis/newsroom/press-releases/press-release-2014/763-intel-subsidiary-agrees-to-750-000-penalty-for-unauthorized-encryption-exports |
| 08:21 |
assbot |
Intel Subsidiary Agrees to $750,000 Penalty for Unauthorized Encryption Exports |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 08:40 |
kakobrekla |
https://twitter.com/Abhaxas/status/523780560993267713 |
| 08:40 |
assbot |
go home twitter, you're drunk. i'll accept my bugbounty via bitcoin thx http://t.co/iZOoa0hSEb |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 08:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.shareable.net/blog/the-exterminators-want-ad << epic crackpottery |
| 08:56 |
assbot |
The Exterminator's Want-Ad - Shareable |
| 08:57 |
asciilifeform |
wind river << no mention, it seems, of what they shipped to be condemned to the penalty, and to whom |
| |
~ 51 minutes ~ |
| 09:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/524185909504516096 |
| 09:49 |
assbot |
Thanks to all who notified us of the /hashtag/mintpal?src=hash coins. https://t.co/nH85upTbMW We are vigilant on not let them pass through /hashtag/Bitstamp?src=hash |
| 09:50 |
kakobrekla |
https://blockchain.info/address/1KiLuqDytoMHu1KRzjh71TRbYraZHSP2xC |
| 09:50 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 1KiLuqDytoMHu1KRzjh71TRbYraZHSP2xC |
| 09:51 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/spain-to-issue-more-online-gambling-licenses/ |
| 09:52 |
BingoBoingo |
%p |
| 09:52 |
atcbot |
>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1958.96 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 2.02 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.63 TH/s |
| 09:52 |
BingoBoingo |
punkman: See the logs |
| 09:52 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 09:52 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 469547.73 Est. Next Diff: 1379402.06 in 1654 blocks (#48384) Est. % Change: 193.77 |
| 09:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+kakobrekla> https://blockchain.info/address/1KiLuqDytoMHu1KRzjh71TRbYraZHSP2xC /// wassat? |
| 09:54 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 1KiLuqDytoMHu1KRzjh71TRbYraZHSP2xC |
| 09:55 |
kakobrekla |
old coins |
| 10:03 |
mod6 |
%ob |
| 10:03 |
atcbot |
50k@248 44k@245 5k@241 | 50k@44 100k@41 200k@35 |
| 10:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank-of-england/11174071/UK-bank-payment-system-goes-offline.html |
| 10:07 |
assbot |
House purchases on hold as real-time payment system goes offline - Telegraph |
| 10:10 |
chetty |
jajajaja good one, now thats a way to curb gubermint spending |
| 10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
“The Bank of England has identified a technical issue related to some routine maintenance of the RTGS payment system and has paused settlement while we resolve it,” a statement from the Bank said. |
| 10:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
or, hey have we been haxored? |
| 10:18 |
BingoBoingo |
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/10/20/1233235/ibm-pays-globalfoundries-15-billion-to-shed-its-chip-division |
| 10:18 |
assbot |
IBM Pays GlobalFoundries $1.5 Billion To Shed Its Chip Division - Slashdot |
| 10:18 |
BingoBoingo |
IBM Continues to confound people with the question of "What do they still DO? |
| 10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
heh |
| 10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
here's a good one too |
| 10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
"China got its first official shipments of new iPhones last week, but a new report from web censorship watchdog Great Fire indicates Chinese users may be facing an unpleasant surprise when they try to connect to Apple services at large. As of last night, the Chinese firewall is blocking all local connections to iCloud.com, redirecting those connections to a dummy site designed to look |
| 10:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
exactly like Apple's login page." |
| 10:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
china giv slurping up credentials |
| 10:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
gov |
| 10:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://qz.com/283691/china-may-be-hacking-every-iphone-user-in-the-country/ |
| 10:20 |
assbot |
China may be hacking every iPhone user in the country – Quartz |
| 10:20 |
bounce |
oh, they're going through with it? could've had your own chip fab and gotten 1.5bn in the deal too |
| 10:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
| 10:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
so my guess is this week wall st's party line will be that everything's okay, markets recover XX% of what was lost last week in a few days, then next week new lows |
| 10:29 |
BingoBoingo |
!t m s.mpoe |
| 10:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007342 / 0.00073843 / 0.00074163 (1477276 shares, 1,090.88 BTC), 7D: 0.00073316 / 0.00073791 / 0.00074368 (7811540 shares, 5,764.24 BTC), 30D: 0.00073316 / 0.00074319 / 0.00075684 (25376564 shares, 18,859.76 BTC) |
| 10:29 |
BingoBoingo |
ThickAsThieves: I dunno, Obola seems to even be surpressing MPOE |
| 10:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
just a temporary trap tho |
| 10:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
s'all i'm sayin |
| 10:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
get mom n pop to ignore their investments a bit longer |
| 10:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
so gs can nurse the teat |
| 10:45 |
kakobrekla |
;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com |
| 10:45 |
gribble |
log.bitcoin-assets.com is down |
| 10:45 |
kakobrekla |
lies |
| 10:45 |
kakobrekla |
ip has changed, beat your dns |
| 10:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12347 @ 0.00074163 = 9.1569 BTC [+] |
| 10:50 |
chetty |
ThickAsThieves, me thinks gus is running out of that sort of gas, ma n pa is starting to notice |
| 10:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
i hope so |
| 10:54 |
mats_cd03 |
https://twitter.com/tim_likes_cake/status/523731718830698496 |
| 10:54 |
assbot |
An actual, real paragraph from the draft PHP specification. http://t.co/H9MscHwh90 |
| 11:04 |
chetty |
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9364 |
| 11:04 |
assbot |
Govt tells Christian ministers: Perform same-sex weddings or face jail, fines - Alliance Defending Freedom |
| 11:13 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
| 11:13 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 383.57, Best ask: 384.58, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 383.5, 24 hour volume: 9973.42180721, 24 hour low: 376.2, 24 hour high: 392.0, 24 hour vwap: 382.624714469 |
| 11:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Truth >> http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--5NgxjUI7--/lpovu8m5sadekmlwrogg.jpg |
| 11:35 |
* |
Adlai isn't sure that, were he looking for a minister to perform a same-sex marriage, he'd want one who was only doing it under threat of incarceration |
| 11:38 |
chetty |
well this sort of thing isn't about getting married, its about pushing agenda |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 11:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
bitcoin has so many CEOs |
| 11:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0ZV-mRIQAEU03v.png |
| 11:57 |
TomServo |
decentralized ceos, yo |
| 11:57 |
TomServo |
;;bc,stats |
| 11:57 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 326176 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 415 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 0 hours, 42 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35676954134.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.92693 |
| 11:58 |
Adlai |
how about from now on, no btc-related company ever fills the "ceo" role |
| 11:58 |
Adlai |
people can be "VP Operations", "VP Executions", etc |
| 11:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4483 @ 0.00074168 = 3.325 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:58 |
* |
kakobrekla proclaims itself for CEO of the CEO association |
| 11:58 |
Adlai |
and at board meetings, the CEO chair remains empty, like for the prophet Elijah |
| 11:58 |
kakobrekla |
himself |
| 11:58 |
kakobrekla |
im not it :\ |
| 11:59 |
* |
Adlai not it |
| 12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: Kraken Considers Purchasing MtGox Assets As It Pushes Into Japan | Qntra.net << ok, this i don't get. |
| 12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
how is some derps with no money "considering" buying something that doesn't exist news ? |
| 12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
i get it, caleb and co would like us to think kraken actually exists. that's fine, but it doesn't, and why are you pushing it ? |
| 12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla^ |
| 12:07 |
kakobrekla |
but it sez FOREX on the front page |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla: which is critical during a child's formative early years." <<< I wonder about this with my son, we're both with him 24/7 << after about 7 or so that's unhealthy. |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony: boiling frogs. <<< ayup. |
| 12:09 |
TomServo |
mircea_popescu: Is there a trilema article handy detailing your child rearing tips? |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
you invested in the craig dude ? i mean anything other than the lulz |
| 12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i have a huge investment of lulz with him myself. |
| 12:10 |
mircea_popescu |
TomServo are you setting me up ? yeah, i know, i got no kids bla bla. but i speak for the romanian school of psychology, pre 1990 god damn it. i know shit. |
| 12:10 |
TomServo |
mircea_popescu: Not at all. I've noticed you have a quite a few is all. |
| 12:10 |
kakobrekla |
> Now available on Bloomberg Terminal due to customer demand < just love this, 'all seven users wrote to us that they heard of bloomberg sometime someplace' |
| 12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. but i never really wrote about it because well... that'd be the end of days, mp mommy blogger. |
| 12:11 |
TomServo |
hahah |
| 12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla you know bloomberg terminals are still widely used. 50k or so i'd guess. |
| 12:12 |
kakobrekla |
yeah well, the only reason they are on bloomber is because of <h1>forex</h1> on frontpage. |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
who you mean, kraken ? |
| 12:12 |
kakobrekla |
yes |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, just go to some people that aren't mp offer them .1 btc for whatever and you're in. |
| 12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
bloomberg isn't as well kept as the wot. |
| 12:13 |
kakobrekla |
oh you are making pun |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, after the entire "we're built with security in mind from the ground up and also please everyone send btc to this address and we'll sort it out later" adventure, and then lying about it... |
| 12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
im sure they'll do fine o.O |
| 12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony: in those 4 weeks I saw a doctor twice and a specialist once << fuck 4 weeks ? i'm throwing a conniption fit in the third motherfucking day |
| 12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
i've never been sick for a week straight nor do i think it possible. |
| 12:17 |
mircea_popescu |
assbot: Intel Subsidiary Agrees to $750,000 Penalty for Unauthorized Encryption Exports << now that is news! got a BingoBoingo in da haus ? |
| 12:17 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Yeah, it's in the cue after I finish the next piece |
| 12:18 |
* |
mircea_popescu giggles excitedly |
| 12:18 |
kakobrekla |
do i get like a finders fee |
| 12:18 |
kakobrekla |
:D |
| 12:18 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell kakobrekla here's your finders fee for the intel article |
| 12:18 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 12:18 |
kakobrekla |
scam |
| 12:18 |
kakobrekla |
o i got a new msg! |
| 12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla wanna write it up ? or... make the woman do it ? |
| 12:19 |
kakobrekla |
scam |
| 12:19 |
kakobrekla |
low on time. let PinkPosixPXE write. |
| 12:19 |
kakobrekla |
for some redemption |
| 12:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess that'd work. |
| 12:21 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I can do that |
| 12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
make it good. |
| 12:22 |
thestringpuller |
or not |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
hey X-Rob in da house ? ello ? |
| 12:22 |
thestringpuller |
that's cazalla's job |
| 12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller the less of it he has to do, the more of it he can do, ya know ? |
| 12:22 |
thestringpuller |
:D |
| 12:23 |
thestringpuller |
i can't find any real btc news on the net still |
| 12:23 |
thestringpuller |
all "this is why x is long on btc" |
| 12:23 |
thestringpuller |
"btc is rivaling payments here's why" |
| 12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo and lemme guess, currently being workt on is assbot: House purchases on hold as real-time payment system goes offline - Telegraph ? |
| 12:23 |
BingoBoingo |
That's after Intel fine |
| 12:23 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/ibm-pays-to-divest-chip-business/ |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
IBM Pays To Divest Chip Business | Qntra.net |
| 12:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Now writing Intel fine. |
| 12:24 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo PinkPosixPXE has that one |
| 12:24 |
kakobrekla |
imma brb |
| 12:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, then now writing Housing market stalls as payments stop |
| 12:24 |
mod6 |
find any real btc news on the net still |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty: http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9364 <<, ahahaha WHAT |
| 12:25 |
assbot |
Govt tells Christian ministers: Perform same-sex weddings or face jail, fines - Alliance Defending Freedom |
| 12:25 |
BingoBoingo |
mod6: Slow on that front |
| 12:25 |
mod6 |
<< bah. anyway, all the real news is on irc. |
| 12:25 |
mod6 |
sorry, bad copy. |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 will be fined five ounces of lead and an ounce of ink |
| 12:25 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo yeah give the girl a chance. |
| 12:26 |
BingoBoingo |
K |
| 12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
*: Adlai isn't sure that, were he looking for a minister to perform a same-sex marriage, he'd want one who was only doing it under threat of incarceration << details, details. it's the united states of methodical hypocrisy anyway, they don't get married to be married, they get married to get the paperwork. |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
education, work, everything the same. they don't buy shoes to have shoes, they buy shoes for the other people to see they got shoes. |
| 12:27 |
mircea_popescu |
etc. |
| 12:28 |
chetty |
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/warren-buffett-losing-over-1-billion-on-ibm-2014-10-20 |
| 12:28 |
assbot |
Warren Buffett losing over $1 billion on IBM - MarketWatch |
| 12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
BUT the dynamism embedded in our market economy will continue to work its magic. Americas best days lie ahead. |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
Could anyone really believe the earth was going to swallow up the incredible productive assets and unlimited human ingenuity existing in America?!?!?!?! |
| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
With this tailwind working for us, Charlie and I hope!!!11 |
| 12:29 |
bounce |
.oO( god blesses america, doesn't he? ) |
| 12:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00074028 = 20.0246 BTC [-] |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno why so many people want to live LONGER |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
so as to what, cover a career built on a deserved reputation for insight under a pile of senile ridicule ? |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
Adlai: how about from now on, no btc-related company ever fills the "ceo" role <<< welcome to mpex in 2011 :))) |
| 12:32 |
chetty |
what is a ceo? |
| 12:33 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: didn't you have some background information on bitcoinshop.us |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
!s bitcoinshop.us |
| 12:33 |
assbot |
3 results for 'bitcoinshop.us' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoinshop.us |
| 12:33 |
thestringpuller |
it was on trilema |
| 12:34 |
thestringpuller |
;;google site:trilema.com bitcoinshup |
| 12:34 |
gribble |
No matches found. |
| 12:34 |
thestringpuller |
;;google site:trilema.com bitcoinshop |
| 12:34 |
gribble |
Scam flavour of the day : bitcoinshop.us aka Hotel Management ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/scam-flavour-of-the-day-bitcoinshopus-aka-hotel-management-systems-inc-tucn/>; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/>; S.MG, March 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: (1 more message) |
| 12:34 |
thestringpuller |
there we go |
| 12:34 |
thestringpuller |
the frist one |
| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
a yes |
| 12:34 |
thestringpuller |
http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/bitcoin-shop-announces-formation-of-advisory-board-otcqb-btcs-1959113.htm |
| 12:34 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Shop Announces Formation of Advisory Board |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 12:35 |
mircea_popescu |
did you get your tablet ? |
| 12:37 |
mircea_popescu |
o look at that, you can no longer - bash entries ? |
| 12:37 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: yea. and then broke it. i still have my backpack they proxied from china tho. |
| 12:37 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, dji only down half a % today |
| 12:37 |
mircea_popescu |
meta-up 200% from yesterday |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=290 << bwahahah |
| 12:40 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets bash |
| 12:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17404 @ 0.00073928 = 12.8664 BTC [-] {3} |
| 12:42 |
kakobrekla |
meh, that voting system i did there was broked. and i fixed it 3 times and its still broked. |
| 12:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
tried breaking it yet? |
| 12:43 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/bank-of-england-payment-settlements-offline-home-purchases-impossible/ |
| 12:43 |
assbot |
Bank of England Payment Settlements Offline: Home Purchases Impossible | Qntra.net |
| 12:43 |
kakobrekla |
thats the inherit property, cant get tired of it. |
| 12:44 |
kakobrekla |
it is what it is now. up what you like, ignore what you dont, should be ok, over time. |
| 12:45 |
kakobrekla |
speaking of this, rating systems are a science of its own |
| 12:46 |
kakobrekla |
and i have nfi what would be best here |
| 12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i believe it. |
| 12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
they are a science, and hardly worth the effort given that w/e, it's just bash quotes |
| 12:47 |
kakobrekla |
im a masochist, i heard. |
| 12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
it's fine until you start hearing it from gurlz. |
| 12:48 |
chetty |
masochist = synonym with programmer, right? |
| 12:48 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
| 12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
!up libertardian |
| 12:49 |
mircea_popescu |
libertardian hello brother. are you here to help me turn the tide and breach through the oppressive injustice these ancap redpiller types keep weaving ? |
| 12:50 |
thestringpuller |
what are redpillers? people who saw the matrix and think it's real? |
| 12:51 |
mthreat |
http://www.reddit.com/r/theredpill |
| 12:51 |
assbot |
The Red Pill |
| 12:51 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller apparently it's a thing. http://trilema.com/2014/please-take-your-pills/ << that's where i discovered it anyway |
| 12:51 |
assbot |
Please take your pills. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 12:51 |
thestringpuller |
oh so like PUA but dumb? |
| 12:51 |
thestringpuller |
but more dumb* |
| 12:51 |
mthreat |
and i thought the matrix was real |
| 12:52 |
thestringpuller |
wait so nerds are getting laid less? |
| 12:52 |
mircea_popescu |
well pua has a major disadvantage for your run of the mill usian : it's falsifiable, like a science. |
| 12:52 |
mircea_popescu |
they need stuff more like SOCIAL sciences, ie, talkradio. so they came up with this unfalsifiable version that's all yak, no actual anything. |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
course it doesn't deal with cunt anymore except in the meta, but that's really okay for the demo. |
| 12:53 |
thestringpuller |
ugh. this reminds me of college which was just high school 2.0 |
| 12:53 |
thestringpuller |
"We can't get laid. Lets over analyze it to see why girls won't touch our penises" |
| 12:53 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus what college did you go ot |
| 12:54 |
thestringpuller |
Georgia Tech |
| 12:54 |
thestringpuller |
Like MIT but not as cold. |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
there weren't any pacts involved were there ? |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf, wait a second, georgia tech is a major party school. |
| 12:54 |
thestringpuller |
Major alcholic school* |
| 12:54 |
thestringpuller |
people don't know how to party there! |
| 12:54 |
thestringpuller |
it's like 5 guys with 2 girls standing around drinking |
| 12:55 |
thestringpuller |
5 guys for every 2 girls* |
| 12:55 |
mircea_popescu |
dude i dunno. |
| 12:56 |
thestringpuller |
I guess some kids just never "get" social skills. |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"Alright chods, some of you could use some help on how to mack and succeed at parties. Mostly pledges do, but some bros could use a review. For anytime throughout the party
If you are standing by yourself at any point, YOU ARE OUTTA HERE!!! If you are talking to a brother of your pledge brothers when there are girls just standing around, YOU ARE OUTTA HERE!!!" |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
or how did that go. |
| 12:57 |
thestringpuller |
Oh yea. One second there was 1 fraternity that was very "rape-y" |
| 12:57 |
thestringpuller |
i'll get the leaked email |
| 12:58 |
thestringpuller |
Yea that's from it |
| 12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
| 12:58 |
thestringpuller |
"If the party is going good (a.k.a. there are a lot of open girls) try to escalate cause it.s awesome. Here is how to escalate: Try to twist her hips around to face you and dance front to front. FROM THERE THE OPTIONS ARE UNLIMITED! You can make-out with her (tongue on tongue), you can stick your hand up her shirt (not right away though), you can go for a butt grab (outside or inside the shirts), or use your imag |
| 12:59 |
thestringpuller |
Yea the girls at Tech are feminist so that email didn't go down too well. |
| 12:59 |
thestringpuller |
even though 1 out of every 3 girls found at a fraternity party is looking to hook up |
| 12:59 |
thestringpuller |
so I dunno ~_~ |
| 12:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
3 of 3 |
| 13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf, why else is she there ? to get out of the atlanta rain ? |
| 13:01 |
thestringpuller |
usually it's girls under 21 trying to get free alcohol |
| 13:02 |
thestringpuller |
most girls at tech don't put out until they are 22 |
| 13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
| 13:02 |
thestringpuller |
^- not really just making a joke |
| 13:02 |
thestringpuller |
But really, I hung out with a fraternity brother once who said he hooked up with a girl who didn't know she had a clitoris. |
| 13:03 |
thestringpuller |
But hey that's none of my business. |
| 13:03 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, well, what bros say about women may or may not be indicative of women. |
| 13:03 |
thestringpuller |
Not saying it's fact, just plausible given my tenure at the plpace. |
| 13:04 |
thestringpuller |
given what occurred during my tenure* |
| 13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno, i was there briefly, it wasn't bad. |
| 13:06 |
thestringpuller |
Well you don't get the UGA behavior. |
| 13:07 |
thestringpuller |
But that's a little much. |
| 13:07 |
mircea_popescu |
hm ? |
| 13:08 |
thestringpuller |
UGA, when school is in, is like Mini Mardi Gras every weekend. |
| 13:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00074178 = 23.8853 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:09 |
thestringpuller |
Football games there leave the city of Athens looking like the Greece Athens right nao |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
shit, there's two of them in atlanta ? |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
well fuck me, maybe i was confusing one with the other |
| 13:10 |
thestringpuller |
UGA is in Athens 2 hours east of Atlanta |
| 13:10 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
| 13:10 |
thestringpuller |
Atlatna has Georgia Tech, Georgia State and Emory |
| 13:11 |
thestringpuller |
Also Agnes Scott... |
| 13:11 |
mircea_popescu |
dude perspective's a bitch. it's almost like you can make no useful judgement about anything of note from having spent half a weekend in some rnadom town |
| 13:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Last ditch phone charging https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1896752_807594532587586_979724882_n.jpg |
| 13:12 |
kakobrekla |
yeah idiot, should set it below 500w |
| 13:13 |
mircea_popescu |
blame tesla |
| 13:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
gavin is doing an AMA tomorrow |
| 13:17 |
kakobrekla |
on 4chan? |
| 13:17 |
BingoBoingo |
!up disident |
| 13:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
on fortran |
| 13:18 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: http://coinbrief.net/bitcoin-block-size-economics-gavin-andresen/ << you see that yet? |
| 13:18 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Blocksize Economics: Gavin is Wrong - Coin Brief |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller lol what is that |
| 13:19 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 13:19 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 44 Ask: 241 Last Price: 49 24h-Vol: 2736k High: 190 Low: 1 VWAP: 54 |
| 13:19 |
mircea_popescu |
"Coin Brief is Your Open Source for Digital Currency News, and was formed in April 2014. Since that time it has quickly grown, and is becoming THE hub for digital currency news, information, and tools." ooookay ? |
| 13:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14405 @ 0.00074182 = 10.6859 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:20 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen danielkrawsiz |
| 13:20 |
gribble |
I have not seen danielkrawsiz. |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen DanielKrawisz |
| 13:21 |
gribble |
DanielKrawisz was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 17 hours, 16 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <DanielKrawisz> Yeah, nodes should be able to use micropayments to charge one another for data. |
| 13:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28052 @ 0.000742 = 20.8146 BTC [+] |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell DanielKrawisz "The real issue here is that Bitcoin is almost certainly not sustainable if the block size remains limited to 1 Mb. " << nobody agrees with this idiocy. |
| 13:21 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
"read it. Was it reviewed by any actual economists? Mine was by five, are we all wrong?" ~gavin |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
just as well you might be saying "the world wil not be sustainable if there's not more social justice" |
| 13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
we |
| 13:21 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: It's the only other article I found disagreeing with Gavin. |
| 13:21 |
mircea_popescu |
it may be fashionable AMONG IDIOTS, it's neither true nor important. |
| 13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
we means you when i want you to be me |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves amusingly, usgavin is pulling out the "your shit's not usg certified" card. |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
herpy-derp-a-derp, such a valid argument that is, really. |
| 13:22 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps we "just don't understand how the world works". |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, if anyone wants to ask gavin anything, you've got plenty of material in here. |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
but how we will do more tx than VISA? |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"Why are you lying ?" is a good start. "Why are you acting as if Bitcoin were a USG project ? It's not, you are." |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
etc. |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
those arent really question tho hehe |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
s |
| 13:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
why are you what i say you are? |
| 13:24 |
bounce |
not unusual for scores of economists to be all wrong together |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i was merely summarizing. |
| 13:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
or to be wrong in general |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce that's not even it. is he genuinely proposing that the bar for corectness is finding 5 "actual" economist sto agree, |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
because out of the fifty billion idiots that are nevertheless certified as economists by the us paper mill |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
and why did none of them cosign? |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
never has it happened that more than 4 were in agreement on any piece of idiocy |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
nor could it, for structural reasons he's omitted to explain ? |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Who are the 5 economists?" |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves no. that is pushing things the wrong way. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
because then he can give 5 names and make it look like he answered something. |
| 13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
need to paint into corner to get truths |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i couldn't care less if five popes signed on his stupidity. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
this is exactly how this doesn't work. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem here isn't that gavin is trying to fuck things up, because he won't succeed. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem here is that gavin is trying to paint the box for the discussion. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
and WE won't admit this theory where "econoimists" matter. |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
if they did, they had made bitcoin. |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't make bitcoin. they don't get to join later on and get a seat at the table. |
| 13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
so he can be like 'ok ok gais, we'll only do 10% size per year, no shaddup' |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
an economist wants to be an economist, 6 months on the logs and tit pictures. |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
like everyone else. |
| 13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
now* |
| 13:28 |
Namworld |
I found a food wholesaler in the middle of the city, industrial looking building. It's like entering some fish factory or something. Things look old, a bit unclean. Looks like a factory filled with supplies. |
| 13:29 |
Namworld |
Best shopping experience I've ever had tho... |
| 13:29 |
bounce |
you like shopping in fish factories? |
| 13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
so, anyway. questions. "What makes you think getting the okay of five anon products of the US diploma mill has any bearing ? Bitcoin wasn't made by "economists" |
| 13:30 |
Namworld |
Apparently. But it was just an example, didn't really smell of fish. |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
but im still partial to "why are you lying". |
| 13:30 |
bounce |
is it lying if he doesn't know better? |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. |
| 13:30 |
ben_vulpes |
https://twitter.com/TamithaSkov/status/524237383676338176 |
| 13:30 |
assbot |
Large M-class flare now &climbing! /hashtag/hamradio?src=hash blackout, /hashtag/GPS?src=hash, satellite phone& i-net issues next 1+hr esp W.Hemisphere http://t.co/XDx4g2mRrj |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
he is opening his mouth, that's the voluntary act. |
| 13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
if he doesn't make sure he knows any better first, that's the culpable act. |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, seriously, gavin and "5 ~actual~ economists", this is the "are we all wrong" astroturf consensus he hopes to go on ? |
| 13:32 |
Namworld |
You know what I mean. Stuff not kept in perfect condition, lighting not very bright. Lots of spillage/uncleaned stuff. Rust/dirty walls. |
| 13:33 |
Namworld |
It looks like an actual warehouse, not a "warehouse" supermarket. |
| 13:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://www.circle.com/en/2014/10/20/circle-submits-comments-nydfs-proposed-bitlicense |
| 13:33 |
assbot |
Circle Submits Comments to NYDFS on Proposed BitLicense |
| 13:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21255 @ 0.00074216 = 15.7746 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:33 |
bounce |
so you still get to buy stuff by less than a full distribution box? |
| 13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves who knows, maybe they learn to not pdf. |
| 13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
after which, they might matter. |
| 13:34 |
Namworld |
Yes. They wrote what could be bought in single quantity. Opened boxed and unopened ones. Usually a discount for whole boxes and half boxes. |
| 13:34 |
Namworld |
I mostly went to check for meat/fishes to fill my freezer. |
| 13:35 |
bounce |
complete powertrip for the regulation peeps. "oh, new thing, money-ish. let's r e g u l a t e" -- and then just sit back and watch the companies affected fall over themselves to submit to not-even-existing-yet regulations |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking shocking, 5 "actual" economists found that agree inflation is a good idea, and if anything is naturally uninflationary, adding it in is the tits. |
| 13:36 |
bounce |
the regulators really don't care what they're regulating, as long as they can make you dance on their regulation strings. what are we regulating this thing for again? |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce yup. which is why the "you seem to have omitted suckling my penis, son" is the right approach. |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, got a meeting. we can resume usgavin and the five fail dwarves discussion later. |
| 13:37 |
Namworld |
idk why I never looked for one before. I'd recommend. It's just better. |
| 13:37 |
bounce |
cherry-picking your economists, sort-of like cherry-picking your data, but not quite. |
| 13:37 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, im not playing this stupid game. he wants to ama, he can come here. |
| 13:39 |
bounce |
somebody might drop the hint there |
| 13:40 |
thestringpuller |
http://bitcoinist.net/the-optimal-block-size/ << this article references Mircea |
| 13:40 |
assbot |
The Optimal Block Size | Bitcoinist.net |
| 13:40 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu * |
| 13:41 |
thestringpuller |
oh and it links to the logs |
| 13:41 |
thestringpuller |
someone is sane? |
| 13:42 |
bounce |
really don't feel like reading the entire circle thing. the headlines read reasonable but eg. the bit about aml merely says "aml doubleplus good. we happy to aml for you. you want even more aml than the feds, no good." which is a bit weak. |
| 13:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
itd be unreasonable to ask for special treatment for less reg |
| 13:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
in the end, current regs already do apply |
| 13:46 |
bounce |
it's the only way out, actually |
| 13:48 |
bounce |
look here, the guy's proposing lots of regs so he can make his mark on history. then he can do one of two things: more regs, recommending less regs. what he cannot possibly do is keep regulatory levels the same as federal requirements because that deprives him of making his mark on history. |
| 13:48 |
bounce |
this goes even if it's the only possible choice. that it isn't, because the aml regs already make little sense and even more stringent rules therefore can only make even less sense. |
| 13:50 |
bounce |
so what's going to happen is there'll be some toning down on this proposal to show heart to the community and all that, but we still end up with more rules than already required. and in a few years the whole thing becomes obsolete because unworkable. there goes the mark on history. |
| 13:50 |
nubbins` |
"In light of the foregoing, it should be clear that Mircea, not Gavin, is derping here." |
| 13:50 |
nubbins` |
my sides |
| 13:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
tbf, that's how mp would write it |
| 13:51 |
punkman |
such wordsmith |
| 13:51 |
nubbins` |
i chuckled, gotta say |
| 13:51 |
nubbins` |
altho he did incorrectly quote. |
| 13:51 |
nubbins` |
i think the <<< indicating reply wasn't picked up |
| 13:52 |
nubbins` |
so it seems like he said the whole thing, when in fact it was a comment on something you said |
| 13:52 |
nubbins` |
but hey, that variety speak 8) |
| 13:52 |
thestringpuller |
LOL |
| 13:52 |
thestringpuller |
i just saw that in the logs |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 14:17 |
thestringpuller |
nubbins`: the shirts are well received |
| 14:18 |
thestringpuller |
What size was the one that was being worn in the proof shot you send me? |
| 14:18 |
thestringpuller |
sent* |
| 14:21 |
nubbins` |
ah, i have no idea |
| 14:21 |
nubbins` |
that was just a stock photo |
| 14:22 |
nubbins` |
maybe a small? |
| 14:22 |
thestringpuller |
well there was one where someone was wearing the physical shirt (i think it was your wife?) |
| 14:23 |
* |
nubbins` struggles to remember |
| 14:23 |
nubbins` |
help me out here |
| 14:23 |
thestringpuller |
one second |
| 14:25 |
thestringpuller |
http://imgur.com/lJulXNl |
| 14:25 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 14:25 |
nubbins` |
ah, yes |
| 14:25 |
nubbins` |
that's a small |
| 14:25 |
thestringpuller |
k |
| 14:26 |
thestringpuller |
we've almost sold them all I think 1 left? |
| 14:26 |
nubbins` |
suite |
| 14:26 |
thestringpuller |
what would another order cost now that the screen exist |
| 14:29 |
nubbins` |
$9.75ea for another 6 |
| 14:30 |
nubbins` |
it's still up on the press now, otherwise it'd be a bit extra |
| 14:41 |
thestringpuller |
nubbins`: does that include shipping? |
| 14:48 |
nubbins` |
no |
| 14:48 |
nubbins` |
shipping is w/e the postage said last time ;D |
| 14:48 |
thestringpuller |
hopefully petenineteen didn't toss it out |
| 14:49 |
nubbins` |
i might have it here |
| 14:49 |
thestringpuller |
coocoo |
| 14:50 |
nubbins` |
nope, n/m |
| 14:50 |
nubbins` |
didn't print the postage for that one at home |
| 14:51 |
nubbins` |
i think it was somewhere between 20 and 40 |
| 14:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44800 @ 0.00074128 = 33.2093 BTC [-] |
| 14:57 |
mircea_popescu |
%p |
| 14:57 |
atcbot |
>> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1070.19 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.32 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.82 TH/s |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
<thestringpuller> someone is sane? << apparently it's possible |
| 15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
<ThickAsThieves> in the end, current regs already do apply <<< ahahah what ? |
| 15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
<nubbins`> "In light of the foregoing, it should be clear that Mircea, not Gavin, is derping here." << the only thing that matters in there is that they understand who is setting the conversation and establishing the winners and losers |
| 15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
what they opine as to how either of those should work, well... i'm a believer in free speech just as much as the next guy. |
| 15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
they can opine anything till they drop. |
| 15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
<nubbins`> i think it was somewhere between 20 and 40 << llol. isn't thiks true of like, 90% of all postage ever ? |
| 15:04 |
nubbins` |
i can send a flat-packed poster to nottingham for the same price i can send a dozen shirts to china |
| 15:04 |
nubbins` |
if there's logic in that, i can't find it |
| 15:05 |
nubbins` |
worse voodoo than airline seat pricing |
| |
~ 39 minutes ~ |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/usgavin-the-lolcow/ |
| 15:44 |
assbot |
USGavin, the lolcow pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 15:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13906 @ 0.00074128 = 10.3082 BTC [-] |
| 15:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.4-traders.com/news/21-Top-Bitcoin-and-Digital-Currency-Companies-Endorse-New-Digital-Framework-for-Digital-Identity-Tr--19226116/ |
| 15:49 |
assbot |
21 Top Bitcoin and Digital Currency Companies Endorse New Digital Framework for Digital Identity, Trust and Open Data |
| 15:51 |
mircea_popescu |
herp. |
| 15:55 |
bounce |
buzzwords and marketeerspeak, aka smoke and mirrors. what's the substance? |
| 15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/861/raul-gonzalez-to-play-in-nasl/#c4170 << shit is this actually the player in question ?! |
| 15:55 |
assbot |
BitBet - Raul Gonzalez to play in NASL :: 0.12 B (59%) on Yes, 0.08 B (41%) on No | closing in 4 hours 4 minutes | weight: 115 (100`000 to 1) |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce anyway, it's kind-of amusing to me that the Krawisz fellow KNOWS about gavin's ideas to reduce block propagation from a function of size to a fixed value |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
and yet nothing occurs to him. |
| 16:15 |
mircea_popescu |
what could possibly be wrong with infinite blocks . pdf |
| 16:17 |
bounce |
didn't really adress that, did he? not the only thing he glosses over. |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
the worst part of it being that you know, he KNOWS about this place. |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
could have avoided being stupid in public by just asking. |
| 16:19 |
bounce |
curious really how the difficulty gets adjusted automatically but the size limit, implying a maximum number of transactions per second, isn't. |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
well, curious how the car moves forward, but not realy upward. |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
gotta have some fixed points to have a working equilibrium |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
if everything gives every which way you got postmodern us, ie, a mess. |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
that's actually the definition of mess. |
| 16:22 |
bounce |
postmodern us is full of silly arbitrary limits; it's not a natural equilibrium |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
this prolly warrants an in depth discussion. like what ? |
| 16:23 |
bounce |
not that blocksize elasticity is automatically a good idea. it opens up an avenue for attack to push the smaller players out |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be unrelated. can we discuss one thing at a time ? |
| 16:24 |
bounce |
hm? how, oh, aml/kyc stuff causes banks to be happy to kick clients out that cause regulatory headaches. why are banks supposed to be policing their clients again? |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
so far what i got from your position is, "curious how the market adjusts the price of the oil barrel, but not what a barrel consists of" |
| 16:24 |
bounce |
or that whole spiel with the cows and the senator |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, it has to work that way. some things gotta be fixed. |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
how are either of those two examples of limits ? |
| 16:26 |
bounce |
to the point that fixing the points becomes its own game, and they're "fixed" in the sense that a happy few get to move the goalposts but they're not moving any less. they are pretty much guaranteed to be suboptimal, though. |
| 16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
which is what "if everything gives every which way you got postmodern us, ie, a mess." is saying. |
| 16:27 |
bounce |
was under the impression you were referring to a non-meta-game situation |
| 16:28 |
mircea_popescu |
ah kay. |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, "blocksize elasticity" and all the rest of the derpage is trying to turn bitcoin into whatever, xrp, nxt, whatever the hell. |
| 16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
if those things actually worked, they wouldn't have blown up. |
| 16:30 |
bounce |
those have variable-sized blocksize limits and that caused them to blow up? |
| 16:30 |
* |
bounce hasn't really kept up there |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
no, but they've had "we know shit and we have economists" dev teams |
| 16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
and THOSE caused them to blow up. |
| 16:31 |
bounce |
no shortage of those |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
looking at things from a distance always helps. "oh, you wish to tell me that if we make this bar so that anyone can come in and not pay a cover charge it'll be cooler ?" |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
totally, this works, yeah. which is why nobody does it in practice o.O |
| 16:32 |
kakobrekla |
<bounce> those have variable-sized blocksize limits < i dont know if anyone did this before |
| 16:34 |
mthreat |
I can't read Tuur Demester's name without saying it "Turd Meister" in my mind |
| 16:35 |
kakobrekla |
bad stenography |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat it's a common complaint |
| 16:35 |
mthreat |
whew |
| 16:36 |
mod6 |
mircea_popescu: way to hurt some butts in the USGavin trilema article. good read. :) |
| 16:36 |
bounce |
plenty places without entrance fees. enabling uncool people to have fun too. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated pankkake |
| 16:37 |
gribble |
You rated user pankkake on Tue Mar 25 20:14:04 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: dev, my ATC broker. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
aww, atc. |
| 16:37 |
mod6 |
ikr :/ |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate pankkake 1 some lols were head, meanwhile he left. |
| 16:37 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user pankkake has changed from 3 to 1. |
| 16:38 |
kakobrekla |
well, left ba. |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
what else is there ? |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
but no, he quit brokering many months before that, an' he we were sort-of working on a project but apparently never went anywhere. |
| 16:39 |
bounce |
call it a vacation |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
mod6 anyway, cheers. |
| 16:39 |
TomServo |
Did he ever give an explanation? Was it really SystemD bashing? |
| 16:39 |
mod6 |
apparently there is no where else. his /wi info lists no other chans. heh. |
| 16:40 |
Apocalyptic |
on freenode whois only lists channels you have in common |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
TomServo i have nfi. bounce sure, teh future's an open book. |
| 16:40 |
Apocalyptic |
here's in #paymium at the moment, at least |
| 16:40 |
mod6 |
Apocalyptic: ahh. i see. |
| 16:40 |
Apocalyptic |
*he's in |
| 16:46 |
mod6 |
;;bc,stats |
| 16:46 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 326208 | Current Difficulty: 3.500248202613323E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 326591 | Next Difficulty In: 383 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 14 hours, 57 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 35823836452.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.34656 |
| 16:49 |
mod6 |
;;seen vragnaroda |
| 16:49 |
gribble |
vragnaroda was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 years, 17 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, 29 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <vragnaroda> I'm American. |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
wonder what became of him |
| 16:50 |
mod6 |
i feel like maybe he was in a different chan more recently than that. but maybe it has been that long o.O |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen staatsfiend |
| 16:50 |
gribble |
I have not seen staatsfiend. |
| 16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
;;seen staatsfeind |
| 16:51 |
gribble |
I have not seen staatsfeind. |
| 16:54 |
mod6 |
who was the guy who ran spotify coin? can't recall.. he dropped off the map too. |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile in a parking lot, http://sarademcutoti.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/577513_301766546573169_885425518_n.jpg |
| 16:54 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: how is some derps with no money "considering" buying something that doesn't exist news ? <<< jesse's words, not mine, they did pocket some cash from investors, gotta spruce the japanese launch somehow |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla yeah but you see what i mean |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
whether we're getting paid for that sort of thing or not, it's still paid pr. |
| 16:55 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu: i get it, caleb and co would like us to think kraken actually exists. that's fine, but it doesn't, and why are you pushing it ? <<< i thought i mentioned their low vol in the article, guess not |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
PinkPosixPXE how's the piece coming along ? |
| 16:55 |
mod6 |
;;seen mcorlette |
| 16:55 |
gribble |
I have not seen mcorlette. |
| 16:56 |
mod6 |
;;seen mcorlett |
| 16:56 |
gribble |
mcorlett was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 years, 7 weeks, 0 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <mcorlett> Except for yourself, of course. |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
o the guy quit, i recall |
| 16:56 |
mod6 |
'bout the same time. |
| 16:56 |
mod6 |
*nod* |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
no fucking way. |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
vrag was iirc a mortar man |
| 16:57 |
mod6 |
as in artillary? |
| 16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
yea |
| 16:57 |
cazalla |
<mircea_popescu> cazalla yeah but you see what i mean <<< not really, it's not a promotional piece, just quoting what the man said himself, i'm not too familiar with kraken guys though tbh |
| 16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla but when you quote what the man says whle the man's puffing up his business, you are in fact publishing paid pr. |
| 16:57 |
mircea_popescu |
whether you get paid or not. |
| 16:58 |
cazalla |
but i should've mentioned the non existent vol kraken has |
| 16:58 |
mod6 |
ah. yeah, recall some mil stuff he talked about. been a while. i liked his angle on things. |
| 16:58 |
mod6 |
and he was teh grammar nazi & had a love for beating trolls. |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rated vragnaroda |
| 16:59 |
gribble |
You rated user vragnaroda on Sat Sep 22 16:11:20 2012, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: when he's a naxi who keeps corecteing ppls grammer 24/7. |
| 16:59 |
mod6 |
haha. yup. :) |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
that was an actual quote. |
| 17:00 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla anyway, you can mention the time they lost customer deposits, too, round it all up, since it's there. |
| 17:01 |
kakobrekla |
fuck the deposits nice logo |
| 17:01 |
cazalla |
when did that happen |
| 17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla few months ago, they had this embarassing moment when they sent the same deposit address to anyone asking for a deposit address for a day or two |
| 17:02 |
mircea_popescu |
ended up with ~100 btc in deposits they couldn't properly credit. |
| 17:02 |
kakobrekla |
hm i have a different recollection but could as well be wrong |
| 17:03 |
kakobrekla |
could be it was a separate incident. |
| 17:04 |
kakobrekla |
but anyway, if you need to 'balance' things, you can always link bash :) |
| 17:04 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla how did yours go ? |
| 17:05 |
kakobrekla |
now that i started to think about it it - the more i think the less i recall |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 17:06 |
bounce |
<mircea_popescu> all that's needed to put someone at a crime scene today is an old hairbrush, or a worn shirt, or anything. << oh yes. there was this mass-everything criminal, showed up everywhere, who eventually turned out to be a sloppy worker in a dna swab factory |
| 17:06 |
kakobrekla |
honestly, they still have issues all the time |
| 17:06 |
kakobrekla |
hard to keep up whats the latest problem |
| 17:07 |
pete_dushenski |
howdy! |
| 17:07 |
mircea_popescu |
hey p. |
| 17:08 |
kakobrekla |
also i am unable to find anything written re that incident |
| 17:08 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu heya wd on that latest usgaving piece :) |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla mpoe-pr told kraken pr to quit over their trying to paper over that incident. |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg4924847#msg4924847 |
| 17:09 |
assbot |
[ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange Now Open with USD, EUR, BTC, LTC, XRP, NMC, XDG |
| 17:10 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Good, almost done, I had to jump in a work meeting to discuss the Bash Shellshock vuln, and repatching some systems.. But I gave BingoBoingo an update, and will be sending it off shortly. It's my first shot at this, so I hope it's not too egregious. |
| 17:10 |
pete_dushenski |
fwiw our ddos buddy hit contravex with 30mbit/s for a whopping 30 mins. |
| 17:10 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, the no vol i'll include but this missing 100 and same deposit address i can find nothing of |
| 17:10 |
PinkPosixPXE |
mircea_popescu: ^ |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
and it was 600ish bitcoin they admitted to |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla link above :p |
| 17:10 |
cazalla |
ty |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
PinkPosixPXE ok ok |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
;;unrate PinkPosixPXE |
| 17:10 |
gribble |
Successfully removed your rating for PinkPosixPXE. |
| 17:10 |
mircea_popescu |
don't go around trying to buy ratings, it's criminal. |
| 17:11 |
kakobrekla |
yes rings bells mircea_popescu . |
| 17:11 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Yea, that was my mistake, the joke was in poor taste, and I also misunderstood the ranking system a bit. Sorry about that. |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
poor taste never got anyone in trouble here. |
| 17:11 |
mircea_popescu |
but some things *are* sacred |
| 17:12 |
kakobrekla |
and natural balances of the assiverse were restored |
| 17:12 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I will openly admit I am still learning, and new, but will try to avoid putting my foot in my mouth too much :P. I've combed over all the wiki's for bt-otc and bt-assets, and am going through the 6 months of logs as I find time. |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
what do you do for a living anyway ? |
| 17:13 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell BingoBoingo daniel "speeks" ? i'm not the only one who noticed this... |
| 17:13 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 17:13 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski did the 30mbps do anything ? |
| 17:14 |
PinkPosixPXE |
I'm one of the Senior Linux/Unix Admins for a publishing company. |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
a hey. good for you. |
| 17:14 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: Where I spell ungood this time? |
| 17:14 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu i'm told the site was down but it was while i was sleeping. it was back up when i awoke. |
| 17:14 |
pete_dushenski |
so not much to speek of... |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 17:15 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Thank you much, and thank you for the unrate, and clarifying the matter :). |
| 17:15 |
mircea_popescu |
PinkPosixPXE you know people have been clamoring for a bitcoin host for a while. |
| 17:15 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/20/software-doesnt-fail-socialism-does/ |
| 17:15 |
assbot |
Software Doesn’t Fail. Socialism Does. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski |
| 17:16 |
pete_dushenski |
^cuz rip penguirker |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha didja run off with the niquette piece ? |
| 17:18 |
pete_dushenski |
...maybe |
| 17:18 |
pete_dushenski |
plus some money logs! |
| 17:20 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jgmbm/we_won_without_trying/ |
| 17:20 |
assbot |
We won without trying : Bitcoin |
| 17:20 |
mircea_popescu |
good, stuff needs to breathe. |
| 17:21 |
pete_dushenski |
in through the nose, out through the mouth. |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
"All those haters that come in here with economic models and charts telling us it's impossible; all the hit pieces penned by pros like Krugman telling us to 'grow up' - none of them really quite grasp that there could possibly be a group of people who have the audacity to sit around their hallowed poker table without needing to win." |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
ahem. |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"bitcoin won without the reddit doge derps trying" |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
.... right. so ? |
| 17:22 |
pete_dushenski |
so majick! |
| 17:22 |
mircea_popescu |
let's pretend like things are other things and stuff!1 |
| 17:22 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo maybe this is qorth a qntra ? http://www.tonewsto.com/2014/10/jp-morgans-jamie-dimon-bitcoin-will-try.html |
| 17:22 |
assbot |
JP Morgan’s Jamie Dimon: Bitcoin Will “Try to Eat Our Lunch” | Cryptocurrency And Bitcoin News information on other digital currencies. |
| 17:23 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu reddit is bitcoin and vice versa so bitcoin winning is because of derpage! |
| 17:24 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: You want to give newswriting a try? It's fun. |
| 17:24 |
pete_dushenski |
i did for a few years with the car industry. |
| 17:24 |
mircea_popescu |
lol isn't he a tad late ? but yeah |
| 17:24 |
pete_dushenski |
i had fun with it too. |
| 17:24 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski so write it up. |
| 17:25 |
pete_dushenski |
yes mlad |
| 17:25 |
pete_dushenski |
:) |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 17:26 |
kakobrekla |
<mircea_popescu> PinkPosixPXE you know people have been clamoring for a bitcoin host for a while. < meh the only way you can do anything in this direction is to be another reseller |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla best i can tell, all someone needs to do is a) be a sysadmin and b) colocate a few boxes in a decent dc |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
then sell space. |
| 17:27 |
kakobrekla |
adding another liability in the chain |
| 17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
a liability could be a responsibility. |
| 17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
if it's someone you trust then it's someone you trust. |
| 17:28 |
mod6 |
yea, we need The Crypt like in cryptonomicon |
| 17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
colocate in locked boxes, don't allow the dc or anyone else any sort of access to the boxes, kivm or whatever |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
thus creating a single point of failure. which people can evaluate for trust. |
| 17:29 |
kakobrekla |
btc people wont pay for premium host |
| 17:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00074197 = 17.6589 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:29 |
kakobrekla |
cheap dirtbags |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla listen, people like the amateur ddos guy will be helping with this. |
| 17:29 |
kakobrekla |
by ddosing? |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
consider yest, qntra was up but say bingo's blog was down. well ? what's he to do ? |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
and yeah he'd pay. |
| 17:29 |
mircea_popescu |
yep |
| 17:31 |
kakobrekla |
average blogger cant afford any but free hosting |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
blogger that can't afford any but free hosting should stfu and turn the fries. |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the idea that poor people have something to say boggles. |
| 17:34 |
kakobrekla |
dunno, with hosting providers having the margins same as the fees of bitcoin exchanges |
| 17:34 |
kakobrekla |
there isnt much space |
| 17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
!up dr_love |
| 17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla i specifically recall say asciilifeform asking for one. |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
it's rare that you get the customers asking for you, usually people have to create markets |
| 17:35 |
dr_love |
mircea_popescu: thanks. |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. who're you ? |
| 17:35 |
kakobrekla |
how did bitvps do? |
| 17:35 |
dr_love |
is there any value in a provably fair bitcoin lottery? |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
great, up until rg went on a drinking binge or w/e it was he did |
| 17:35 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love define lottery ? |
| 17:36 |
jurov |
kakobrekla bitvps went down in flames |
| 17:36 |
jurov |
and kicked its customers at first occassion |
| 17:36 |
kakobrekla |
classic problem of small providers |
| 17:36 |
dr_love |
mircea_popescu: when you need to buy a ticket to have a 1 in xxx,xxx,xxx chance to win the jackpot |
| 17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
in short i'd put bitvps down to poor management rather than poor fundamentals. |
| 17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love how is this different from a dice site ? |
| 17:37 |
kakobrekla |
when one customer will threaten all the seven you got |
| 17:37 |
BingoBoingo |
dr_love: I'd recommend picking a fiat lottery and starting a BitBet on its drawing |
| 17:37 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla that's a flawed premise. collective security, baby. |
| 17:37 |
dr_love |
mircea_popescu: player's perception? the jackpot grows huge after a few rollovers |
| 17:37 |
kakobrekla |
like cloudflare! |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love so it's a dice meets gem site ? |
| 17:38 |
dr_love |
well yeah, I was just looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroMillions#Distribution_of_revenue, where 50% goes to shit |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
EuroMillions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 17:38 |
dr_love |
a Bitcoin lottery could do much better than that |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love basically it's a marketing wrapper on top of a dice site. best work as a promoter then i guess. |
| 17:39 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: how do you imagine economic model of such hosting? if we put everything onnto one basked and then one ddos burns $100/week of bandwidth, who'll pay? |
| 17:39 |
dr_love |
so you're saying all gambling is dice, it being the best way to put it out there? |
| 17:40 |
jurov |
*basket |
| 17:40 |
BingoBoingo |
dr_love: Write a bitbet "Between XX/YY/ZZZ and AA/BB/CCC the sum of the numbers drawn in a powerball drawing will be Divisible by 37" put 1 BTC on yes, wait for people to take the other side when they do the math. |
| 17:40 |
dr_love |
*the best, most efficient wrapper |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov a) most dcs that are even half decent don't charge for ddos ; b) those that do rent you fixed pipe anyway |
| 17:40 |
kakobrekla |
100$ a week should not be a number of importance |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
so i dun get the question. |
| 17:40 |
kakobrekla |
or you are doing it wrong |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
buy 10gpps, put a rack in there, forget it. |
| 17:41 |
dr_love |
BingoBoingo: that is interesting |
| 17:41 |
jurov |
so you'll gonna having customers that dwarf the $100 figure right from the start? |
| 17:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14904 @ 0.00074128 = 11.048 BTC [-] |
| 17:41 |
BingoBoingo |
dr_love: BitBet only takes 1% and most people who bet there can math |
| 17:41 |
jurov |
is asciilifeform actually paying so much for his blog? |
| 17:41 |
jurov |
*wanting to pay |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov so if a business isn't insta-cash positive it shouldn't exist ? |
| 17:42 |
kakobrekla |
no, he didnt get ddosed & kicked out yet :) |
| 17:42 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: Well... if he doesn't have any other way to spend BTC it might be their only way to avoid burial with him. |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
start with oh i dunno, 10k in venture capital |
| 17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
!up MCM-Mike |
| 17:44 |
jurov |
i'm a dc noob... how much is such a pipe? |
| 17:44 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.missilebases.com/#!communications-bunker-paris-mo/c1kkg << prototype for BTC datacenter? |
| 17:44 |
assbot |
Missile bases, communication bunkers and underground properties |
| 17:44 |
dr_love |
mircea_popescu: so dice is the cutting edge in gambling, you're saying |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov depends a lot where and for how long you're getting it, really. |
| 17:45 |
BingoBoingo |
dr_love: Well dice is the prototype for all of the pure chance games |
| 17:45 |
dr_love |
btw, why aren't you running JD already? |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
cuz dooglus is not answering emails ? |
| 17:45 |
PinkPosixPXE |
There are some BTC only vps providers out there that I've gleamed, but haven't dug in.. Would be interesting to look into, I've got all the experience needed, and a few others I know are vps sellers/resellers (not that I'd recommend many of them, heh.. but I just find their style a bit sloppy). |
| 17:45 |
dr_love |
fucker |
| 17:45 |
dr_love |
what a waste :( |
| 17:45 |
mircea_popescu |
hey, his thing. |
| 17:46 |
PinkPosixPXE |
brb, gonna finish this novel up and send it to BingoBoingo. |
| 17:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh a long one! |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus, qntra chick lit now. |
| 17:47 |
* |
jurov is pondering http://www.maxdedicated.com/10GBPS-Unmetered-Server.html |
| 17:47 |
assbot |
10GBPS Unmetered Dedicated Servers Windows and Linux Cpanel PLESK WHM |
| 17:47 |
jurov |
$600/mo + |
| 17:47 |
PinkPosixPXE |
Well.. since it's my first, I figure you can at least cut and scrap what you don't like. But I wanted to include as much as I could, didn't realize it'd be so long, heh.. |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov that's a reseller. |
| 17:48 |
jurov |
just ballparking |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
should be more or less in the $100 range that you were discussing. |
| 17:48 |
dr_love |
BingoBoingo: what's "exciting" in lotto is the huge, lifechanging jackpot. dice is much more real in that sense, so the conversion rate might just be bigger in lotto |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
but very congested places it can run significantly more, and some (esp new) places may be giving it away free for a long commit |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love understand : either the player wins his own money (ie, risks 1 cent, may make 100 btc 1:10000 times) |
| 17:49 |
bounce |
"13 acres" parces size and "8200 sqft usable, underground space". seems like a rather small bunker for that plot of land. so essentially buying a farm with some stray concrete in the soil? |
| 17:49 |
bounce |
s/parces/parcel/ |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
or else he wins other's money. to get a jackpot large you need a bunch of idiots to play a bad odds gamre for a long time. |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they may just as well play dice in that interval for better EV |
| 17:49 |
BingoBoingo |
bounce: Well more parcel for smaller bunker means more surface area for missiles to miss |
| 17:50 |
dr_love |
I do understand that, however people are perceiving it differently and positive EV tickets are a few jackpot rollovers away |
| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
bounce 8k sqft underground is a respectable wine cellar. |
| 17:50 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love you can still run it like BingoBoingo suggested, for no extra cost, if you got the "people" in question |
| 17:51 |
bounce |
what was it used for, missiles? |
| 17:53 |
BingoBoingo |
bounce: That one ATT long lines. |
| 17:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Another interesting candidate for DC use http://www.missilebases.com/#!storage-depot-ne-kansas/c1d1o |
| 17:53 |
assbot |
Missile bases, communication bunkers and underground properties |
| 17:53 |
BingoBoingo |
"Storage Depot" |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo pretty much the only thing about a dc location is if it's on a ring or not. |
| 17:54 |
mircea_popescu |
is there one in kansas ? |
| 17:54 |
bounce |
that's positive, means presumably already optimised for sticking in racked gear, except probably not for the density and consequent heat required these days |
| 17:55 |
dr_love |
what if you fund it for it to be neutral EV from t0 with a little jackpot kickstarter fund on the side? you can surely make it back if you grab enough attention with the initial offering |
| 17:55 |
BingoBoingo |
That one seems to be by KC, so probably feasible to get fiber from a few different directions |
| 17:55 |
bounce |
might be more useful to shoot for two of those connected to each other, and stick some fibre in the connecting tubes. maybe check if there's still copper in there and sell it. |
| 17:57 |
kakobrekla |
speaking of bunkers http://www.cyberbunker.com/web/swat.php |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
CyberBunker DataCenters |
| 17:57 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/m.dodge/cybergeography/atlas/williamscommunications_large.gif << seems west kansas should be ok |
| 17:57 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.missilebases.com/#!nike-indiana/c1aq8 << Missile Magazine to home conversion |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
Missile bases, communication bunkers and underground properties |
| 17:58 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love hence the "gem website" reference. |
| 17:59 |
bounce |
cb3rob and friends are complete nitwits, sadly. claim to've snagged the thing "with sovereignty" then allows a bunch of idiots to burn the place down with a meth lab and on top of that lets the (soi-disant foreign) authorities in. |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
Once the SWAT team reached the bunker's blast doors, they 'knock' to announce their presence. It is unclear exactly what they say, as no sound is recorded from the surveillance system. CyberBunker is equipped with an advanced Intruder Detection System (IDS), however due to a testing drill the previous night the IDS system was accidentally left in the inactive mode. Two SWAT officers are seen to hit the blast door of th |
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| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
e bunker with a battering ram. It must not have occurred to the officers that the blast doors were designed to withstand a 20 megaton nuclear explosion from close range. When the SWAT team realized that the door was not being opened for them, they throw flashbangs and take other actions to draw attention. The surveillance footage shows quite a lot of activity at this point. On the other side of the blast doors, no one |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
inside the bunker noticed anything unusual. The SWAT team did some further investigating, and appears to be making phone calls. Finally the SWAT team realized what occurred when City Hall attempted to breach the blast doors. Apparently recognizing that they had gone overboard on their raid, the SWAT team decided to go home. |
| 17:59 |
mircea_popescu |
aww. |
| 18:00 |
mircea_popescu |
dat phonecall lol. like a chick stood up on a date, only lulzier. |
| 18:01 |
bounce |
that is the upside to "forgetting" to turn on your "advanced surveillance system" on your cold war bunker. "what, swat tried to raid us? didn't notice" |
| 18:01 |
undata |
that is beautiful |
| 18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"CyberBunker's lawyers later discovered that the police had indeed sent officers to the bunker for what they claimed was a routine check and that nothing out of the ordinary had taken place. When CyberBunker's lawyers suggested that the surveillance footage could be put online, the police department then quickly offered to pay to repair the damage caused to the fence. |
| 18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
After paying 8088.- euros to CyberBunker, nothing further was heard from the SWAT team." |
| 18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ahem. shitheads. |
| 18:01 |
BingoBoingo |
!up dr_love |
| 18:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Diablo-D3 |
| 18:02 |
kakobrekla |
at least they admi it |
| 18:02 |
Diablo-D3 |
mircea_popescu: that was proven to be completely false |
| 18:02 |
kakobrekla |
admit |
| 18:02 |
Diablo-D3 |
someone called their local cops |
| 18:02 |
Diablo-D3 |
it never happened |
| 18:02 |
kakobrekla |
yeah like cops will say "yeah we are such dorks" |
| 18:03 |
kakobrekla |
not saying its true story, just your argument is meh |
| 18:03 |
Diablo-D3 |
kakobrekla: they did a lot of research into it |
| 18:03 |
Diablo-D3 |
and theres zero proof it ever happened |
| 18:03 |
undata |
"It was ruled a suicide with 4 shots to the back of the head." |
| 18:03 |
kakobrekla |
reeshurrdurrch |
| 18:03 |
Diablo-D3 |
so cyberbunker is just another scam |
| 18:03 |
undata |
Diablo-D3: citation |
| 18:04 |
mircea_popescu |
"they". who ? |
| 18:04 |
Diablo-D3 |
undata: well thats the problem |
| 18:04 |
Diablo-D3 |
undata: cyberbunker needs to cite that it actually happened |
| 18:04 |
Diablo-D3 |
and by their own admission, they wont post the video |
| 18:04 |
Diablo-D3 |
but its not because they were paid off by the police to hide it |
| 18:04 |
Diablo-D3 |
its because there isnt one |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
it could be, sure. |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
or it could not be. so far, word against word. |
| 18:05 |
Diablo-D3 |
people were even offering money for proof |
| 18:05 |
Diablo-D3 |
nothing ever came up |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
"people" "money", meh. |
| 18:06 |
Diablo-D3 |
this was big news a few years back |
| 18:06 |
undata |
Diablo-D3: yeah, I want citations in both directions |
| 18:06 |
Diablo-D3 |
undata: well, Im not going to cite something that long ago |
| 18:06 |
Diablo-D3 |
I dont think the scam is still operating |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically you had nothing to say ? |
| 18:06 |
undata |
Diablo-D3: you're claiming "scam" hence citation or gtfo |
| 18:06 |
Diablo-D3 |
mircea_popescu: I already said it |
| 18:06 |
Diablo-D3 |
it was debunked. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
except it wasn't. |
| 18:07 |
Diablo-D3 |
no proof it ever happened, they refused to provide it |
| 18:07 |
Diablo-D3 |
so it never happened |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
good enough. |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, http://sarademcutoti.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/424219_347892685293888_904705219_n.jpg |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
ahhh. hey, am i the only strega fan here ? |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google liquore strega |
| 18:09 |
gribble |
Strega (liqueur) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strega_(liqueur)>; Liquore Strega Herbal Liqueur Profile and Cocktail Recipes - Cocktails: <http://cocktails.about.com/od/liqueurscordials/p/Strega-Liqueur.htm>; Liquore Strega : Strega Alberti Benevento S.p.A.: <http://www.strega.it/Store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1> |
| 18:09 |
dr_love |
mircea_popescu: is it off topic if I ask you what do you think of jarmusch, the filmmaker? any fav movies? |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love nothing's offtopic anyway. kakobrekla's favourite film director. |
| 18:10 |
kakobrekla |
certainly one of the fav yes. |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla who else ? |
| 18:11 |
dr_love |
I'm just starting to discover him, watched the limits of control recently |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google trilema coffee and cigarettes |
| 18:11 |
gribble |
Coffee Talk Table of Contents - Columbia Evangelical Seminary: <http://www.columbiaseminary.org/coffeetalk/>; UI Critical Thinking Handbook: Chapter Seven -- Theory: <http://www.webpages.uidaho.edu/crit_think/chapter-seven-1.htm>; Topic tags for the tutor2u Economics blog: <http://www.tutor2u.net/blog/index.php/economics/tags> |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
| 18:12 |
kakobrekla |
nothing out of the ordinary list. kubrick and such. |
| 18:12 |
kakobrekla |
and from 'local' ones, kustarica |
| 18:15 |
* |
Adlai liked ghost dog |
| 18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i thought i had written about coffee and ciggs. seems not ?! |
| 18:17 |
dr_love |
you should |
| 18:17 |
kakobrekla |
dr_love : from him dead man and the limits of control |
| 18:17 |
kakobrekla |
dead men being lulzy as fuck |
| 18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla o you didn't like coffee and ciggs ? |
| 18:18 |
kakobrekla |
i dont recall if i watched it? |
| 18:18 |
dr_love |
kakobrekla, what about only lovers left alive |
| 18:18 |
kakobrekla |
i havent seen it |
| 18:19 |
kakobrekla |
seems a new thing |
| 18:19 |
kakobrekla |
limits of control is a metaphysical art movie. |
| 18:19 |
mircea_popescu |
!up morgan-freeman_ |
| 18:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35225 @ 0.00074068 = 26.0905 BTC [-] {4} |
| 18:21 |
morgan-freeman_ |
hey guys, did you see this epic use of bitcoin? www.shitexpress.com |
| 18:21 |
dr_love |
kakobrekla: ye, I like the way his movies aren't intended as message films. it's more like art, really |
| 18:21 |
morgan-freeman_ |
i am literally laughing my shit off |
| 18:21 |
kakobrekla |
morgan-freeman_ now you only need to ship it. |
| 18:22 |
morgan-freeman_ |
to shit it and ship it |
| 18:22 |
kakobrekla |
dr_love myea sort of. one more than others naturally. |
| 18:22 |
mircea_popescu |
morgan-freeman_ let me guess, you can mail shit to people ? |
| 18:23 |
kakobrekla |
correct |
| 18:23 |
mircea_popescu |
new way to stegano, i guess. |
| 18:23 |
morgan-freeman_ |
well, I don't know but there is only a horse manure as a choice.. once I saw an elephant shit on one site, but no bitcoins |
| 18:24 |
bounce |
why are you spamming this in as many channels as you can? |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, morgan-freeman_ is this your site ? |
| 18:24 |
dr_love |
what do you guys listen to? |
| 18:25 |
mircea_popescu |
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/paul-krugmans-house/view/bing/ << send krugman one lb, i'll pay you once he gets it. |
| 18:25 |
assbot |
Paul Krugman's house (Bing Maps) - Virtual Globetrotting |
| 18:25 |
kakobrekla |
>At the end of a tree-lined driveway in the small Dutch town of Goes sits a hulking gray bunker, a communications center built by the Dutch military in 1955. Its 60 rooms are mostly bare save for a few relics, including a cinderblock-size phone and a giant board that used to record nuclear attack alert levels across Europe. There’s no sign of the high-tech nerve center depicted on the CyberBunker website: no racks of supersecur |
| 18:25 |
kakobrekla |
e servers; no underground swimming pool. No Sven Olaf Kamphuis either. |
| 18:26 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
apparently a legit company bought this fake company bunker. |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
legit hosting company |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
dunno |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
haha link ? |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
all is weird |
| 18:27 |
morgan-freeman_ |
bounce: I don't spam! my friends told me to put it on #bitcoin-assets and #bitcoin-otc - I've never seen these two channels so I tried |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-04/cyberbunker-hacking-as-performance-art |
| 18:27 |
assbot |
CyberBunker: Hacking as Performance Art - Businessweek |
| 18:27 |
bounce |
who're these friends of yours? |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
“It was all Photoshop,” says Guido Blaauw, general manager of the bunker’s current tenant, a company called Bunkerinfra Datacenters, which plans to turn the site into a data facility for corporate and government clients. The building was full of junk when Bunkerinfra started renovations two years ago. “It took us three months to clean it out,” Blaauw says. Kamphuis lived there for a few years in the early 2000s, sub |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
letting a room from its owner at that time. According to Blaauw, Kamphuis seized on the image of the bunker as a marketing tool to attract Russian and Chinese clients who wanted a secure place to host their websites. “It’s time to put an end to the fairy tale,” Blaauw says. |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey. |
| 18:28 |
morgan-freeman_ |
bounce: just my friends :-) but I suppose some of their friends created the website |
| 18:29 |
bounce |
that isn't really an answer. |
| 18:29 |
morgan-freeman_ |
bounce: or they saw it today on producthunt.com |
| 18:29 |
undata |
:-) One weird trick to mail shit to your friends! Must see! |
| 18:30 |
BingoBoingo |
morgan-freeman_: How is your shit better than the shit I can by by the truckload at the farm down the road for a few dollars a ton? |
| 18:30 |
dr_love |
I know a few people who I look up to, who have bad taste in art. I always wondered if there's a correlation of some sort |
| 18:31 |
kakobrekla |
bing'o'shit express? |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
dr_love some pretty girls are terrible lays, too. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
just how the world works. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lol bing'o'shit express now that sounds like business. |
| 18:32 |
BingoBoingo |
kakobrekla: Well if you are mailing shit why get clean clinically presentd shit from the Internet while there's piles of shit Dairy farms are selling which has been stewing all summer. |
| 18:33 |
kakobrekla |
hmm |
| 18:33 |
kakobrekla |
for more effect you could just modify a 'jokerbox' to 'shitbox' |
| 18:33 |
kakobrekla |
illustration not necessary. |
| 18:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36621 @ 0.00074029 = 27.1102 BTC [-] |
| 18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
!up dr_love |
| 18:38 |
dr_love |
means it works the other way too? retards can show appreciation for good art? |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
| 18:39 |
mircea_popescu |
dogs loive music all the time, too. |
| 18:39 |
dr_love |
or shit artists can create good art, from time to time |
| 18:41 |
dr_love |
illustrious example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KQoHKkZZkA |
| 18:41 |
assbot |
GEORGE MICHAEL Spinning the wheel - YouTube |
| 18:42 |
dr_love |
sorry, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSoMTkn_Qfg |
| 18:42 |
assbot |
George Michael - Spinning The Wheel - YouTube |
| 18:45 |
fluffypony |
I'm 14 and what is this |
| 18:45 |
|
Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to rise above $600 before December" http://bitbet.us/bet/1055/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.8359 BTC. Current weight: 64,561. |
| 18:46 |
bounce |
oh. you went over to the dark side too then? |
| 18:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23753 @ 0.00074005 = 17.5784 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:54 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: is asciilifeform actually paying so much for his blog << machine is wanted for nosuchlabs.com - currently home to 'phuctor.' i've an astonishingly vast quantity of donated pubkeys - job that wants real, vs. virtual, cpu to crunch (and plentiful memory) |
| 18:54 |
asciilifeform |
bunker << if against usg - grave. marauders - sure, so long as you have independent air, water, fuel, food supplies. |
| 18:54 |
asciilifeform |
if you're a very special customer, they'll pump in sarin/vx. |
| 18:55 |
bounce |
what sort of cpu do you need? would gpu do? |
| 18:55 |
asciilifeform |
these were never designed to withstand physical attack by men (vs nuke) |
| 18:55 |
asciilifeform |
bounce: no |
| 18:56 |
asciilifeform |
my father, as a private in soviet army, was trained, like many others, to take out 'silo' type missile installations with ordinary grenade. (how? jam the door by propping small explosive, e.g., grenade, under one rail. tricky bit is to get to the damn thing, across an ocean and under guard...) |
| 18:57 |
asciilifeform |
but hypothetical enemy in our modern scenario has no problem getting to the door. |
| 18:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16130 @ 0.00073892 = 11.9188 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:59 |
cazalla |
"blah blah new australian exchange is where investors, traders and everyday people come to buy and sell Bitcoin." today's vol 21 btc |
| 19:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6570 @ 0.0007382 = 4.85 BTC [-] |
| 19:01 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Who ever said anything about bunker having meat operating inside? |
| 19:01 |
kakobrekla |
isnt cutting the net pipe the first and the last thing ? |
| 19:02 |
BingoBoingo |
^ that |
| 19:02 |
BingoBoingo |
But who knows? maybe drilling netpipe to china will be feasible eventually |
| 19:06 |
kakobrekla |
even if you have a netpipe straight down its sill easy to undercut it |
| 19:06 |
kakobrekla |
:\ |
| 19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla through earth pipe will never happen |
| 19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
It might |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
mantle movements and besides, it's where lava comes from |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo it provably won;t, no. |
| 19:07 |
kakobrekla |
shutthefuckup in this metaphysical conversation |
| 19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 19:07 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: No one said it would last |
| 19:08 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo my first qntra is ready for your consideration: http://pastebin.com/ctTHPWbg |
| 19:08 |
assbot |
Bitcoin tells Big Banks: "Thanks for lunch!" - Pastebin.com |
| 19:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Just needs to work long enough to pass "hello Wor[melts]" kind of like reverse moon probe |
| 19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
o hecy check that out, 7 pieces today so far ? |
| 19:09 |
pete_dushenski |
what a team! |
| 19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
im pretty impressed yeah |
| 19:10 |
pete_dushenski |
BingoBoingo hopefully you have footnotes plug-in that accepts double brackets ? |
| 19:10 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: Who doesn't |
| 19:10 |
mircea_popescu |
lol standards are a thinb |
| 19:10 |
pete_dushenski |
lol there's a square bracket one too yknow |
| 19:10 |
pete_dushenski |
i don't use it but it exists |
| 19:11 |
pete_dushenski |
and i kept the contravex links to a single one ;) |
| 19:11 |
Apocalyptic |
in other news http://rt.com/news/197648-moscow-vnukovo-jet-crash/ |
| 19:11 |
mircea_popescu |
"I am Ratna, 47 years, still having good figure, which is a result of satisfying fucking with different people during last 15 year. In my first 32 year I took only one cock in my cunt whereas in next 15 year I must have taken at least 3000 cocks in my body. This all because of my only son." |
| 19:11 |
mircea_popescu |
logic. |
| 19:12 |
pete_dushenski |
yup. no conflating variables there. |
| 19:12 |
xanthyos |
<@xanthyos> AND SB SAW MY PENIS, WHICH IS LIKE A GRANDMOTHER TO ME, SINCE MINE DIED |
| 19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
all these planes keep crashing in russia ... |
| 19:13 |
kakobrekla |
but its been like days since the last one |
| 19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ah right. nm, my bad. |
| 19:13 |
pete_dushenski |
still safer than russian cars too so that maxim holds |
| 19:15 |
kakobrekla |
he ends with 'im sure we will be getting in more details as we get them.' |
| 19:15 |
kakobrekla |
righto |
| 19:17 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitcoin-tells-big-banks-thanks-for-lunch/ << pete_dushenski |
| 19:17 |
assbot |
Bitcoin tells Big Banks: "Thanks for lunch!" | Qntra.net |
| 19:18 |
kakobrekla |
>his new Lords < extra space |
| 19:19 |
pete_dushenski |
https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/524339019954794497 |
| 19:19 |
assbot |
My first piece for /qntra: Bitcoin tells Big Banks: "Thanks for lunch!" http://t.co/DtFQOFXNEL |
| 19:20 |
pete_dushenski |
my goodness we're an efficient bunch |
| 19:20 |
* |
pete_dushenski getting teary |
| 19:22 |
pete_dushenski |
have a wonderful evening b-a! |
| 19:24 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell pete_dushenski pics no worky: <pete_dushenski> |
| 19:24 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 19:24 |
kakobrekla |
eh |
| 19:24 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell pete_dushenski pics no worky: http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/31/y-combinator-the-american-idol-of-venture-capital/ |
| 19:24 |
assbot |
Y Combinator: The American Idol of Venture Capital | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski |
| 19:24 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 19:24 |
* |
kakobrekla will fix all your sites |
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| 19:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13705 @ 0.0007382 = 10.117 BTC [-] |
| 19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
lol kako teh pentester |
| |
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| 20:12 |
ben_vulpes |
does anyone in la serenissima have a copy of the bitcoin repository of june 2012 vintage? |
| 20:15 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/independent-reserve-becomes-australias-latest-bitcoin-exchange/ |
| 20:15 |
assbot |
Independent Reserve Becomes Australia's Latest Bitcoin Exchange | Qntra.net |
| 20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/Bitcoin/bitcoin-0.5.3/ etc. |
| 20:17 |
assbot |
Page not found - SourceForge.net |
| 20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
eh ?! |
| 20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahahaha |
| 20:18 |
ben_vulpes |
all i have is the github repo |
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| 20:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!up TheKingOfCPU |
| 20:18 |
TheKingOfCPU |
hi |
| 20:18 |
TheKingOfCPU |
hi everyone |
| 20:18 |
TheKingOfCPU |
=) |
| 20:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ello. |
| 20:19 |
ben_vulpes |
salad |
| 20:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes https://codeload.github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/legacy.tar.gz/v0.7.1 << there |
| 20:20 |
mircea_popescu |
https://codeload.github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/legacy.tar.gz/v0.6.3 etc |
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| 20:20 |
ben_vulpes |
ya got it |
| |
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| 20:21 |
mike_c |
should the news have as much of a slant as a blog post? |
| 20:22 |
mike_c |
or, to rephrase. a news article shouldn't have as much of a slant as a blog post. |
| 20:22 |
ben_vulpes |
"news" is all slant |
| 20:22 |
mike_c |
all communication has a slant. a news article should strive to have less than a blogger. |
| 20:23 |
cazalla |
mike_c which article |
| 20:23 |
mike_c |
i don't mean to poop on pete, but his is the one i just read. |
| 20:24 |
cazalla |
it is listed under commentary |
| 20:24 |
mike_c |
ok, that is good. but that is also news i would like to have. |
| 20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c be specific ? |
| 20:25 |
mike_c |
generally the editorial that is slanted is not the only source of news on the topic. |
| 20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
(i've not read it) |
| 20:25 |
mike_c |
" the world's largest banks gathered together to hold hands and sing kumbaya in the hope that Bitcoin would be gentle" |
| 20:25 |
TheKingOfCPU |
is maynous an instrument? |
| 20:25 |
mike_c |
nothing wrong with this in a commentary, but I would also like to be able to read the un-slanted version. |
| 20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah hardly news this. |
| 20:26 |
TheKingOfCPU |
is maynous an instrument? |
| 20:26 |
kakobrekla |
should be pythra instead qntra |
| 20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
!down TheKingOfCPU |
| 20:26 |
cazalla |
mike_c, which pete linked to but it's a commentary and as news alone, i don't think anyone cares what someone said regarding bitcoin so it could only be commentary on qntra |
| 20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla no but he has a point, what kumbaya. |
| 20:31 |
BingoBoingo |
I hit publish on Pete's piece, in the Commentary category not the news category. |
| 20:31 |
cazalla |
usurper! |
| 20:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
My bad |
| 20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo you know ther's really no diff the site makes. if commentary went to a special page you had to click for then i see it |
| 20:32 |
mircea_popescu |
but as is, it's all the same thing, aka news. |
| 20:32 |
cazalla |
this independent reserve mob are on irc apparently, just wrong network and channel |
| 20:33 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: Who ever said anything about bunker having meat << if the universe favoured defenders of castles, rather than attackers, bitcoin would not be necessary |
| 20:33 |
asciilifeform |
the 'martian bank' could be a literal martian bank. |
| 20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, guy's prose is rather florid, but there IS a news bit in there. |
| 20:33 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Well what protected the Wasp's bag? |
| 20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla where ? |
| 20:33 |
BingoBoingo |
Why can't a datacenter be protected similarly? |
| 20:34 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: until destroyed - obscurity |
| 20:34 |
cazalla |
irc.oz.org #ir but i've invited them here |
| 20:34 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: And maybe people learn not to visit datacenters uninvited... |
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| 20:35 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: cut pipe from safe distance. |
| 20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Safe distance is a mystery though... |
| 20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla good idea. |
| 20:36 |
asciilifeform |
a datacenter that can't be diddled from a safe distance is also called 'a nuclear power' |
| |
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| 20:37 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Nothing I said contradicts that conclusion. At $900k/BTC a lot of things become possibilities |
| 20:38 |
* |
asciilifeform addresses the worms who people his future grave 'eh boys, you'll be lighting benjies with lit benjies' |
| |
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| 20:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 20:43 |
assbot |
Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2ZT50FA.txt ) |
| 20:43 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 2 |
| 20:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00073803 = 14.0595 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
dude varnish is sweet. |
| 20:51 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu re-varnishing transformers again? |
| 20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
nono, varnish the web cache |
| 20:51 |
* |
asciilifeform is a 20th century creature |
| 20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.varnish-software.com/ |
| 20:51 |
assbot |
Varnish Software |
| 20:51 |
asciilifeform |
varnish - lives on transformers. |
| 20:54 |
ben_vulpes |
varnish is okay |
| 20:55 |
ben_vulpes |
so: isStandard() - this is not related to blockchain and transaction processing rules, correct? |
| 20:55 |
ben_vulpes |
no it's totally in the transaction processing rules |
| 20:55 |
ben_vulpes |
if 0.9 says "this txn sucks!" but an 0.6 miner included it, this takes us right to a hard fork |
| 20:56 |
ben_vulpes |
if an 0.9 *node*... |
| 20:57 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.cbronline.com/news/tech/software/enterprise-apps/google-to-nix-piracy-sites-in-search-rank-201014-4411175 |
| 20:57 |
assbot |
Google to nix piracy sites in search rank - Computer Business Review |
| 20:57 |
danielpbarron |
what is it with people pronouncing '0' as 'oh'? |
| 20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
syllabic efficiency |
| 20:58 |
danielpbarron |
"an zero" sounds strange |
| 20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
wouldn't it be "a zero"? |
| 20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
ah hue |
| 20:58 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm retarded, it's fine |
| 20:59 |
danielpbarron |
well no; not if you pronounce it "an oh point nine" |
| 20:59 |
ben_vulpes |
i'd probably say "oh nine", but i should write "a 0.9..." |
| 20:59 |
ben_vulpes |
and i never say the decimal |
| 20:59 |
ben_vulpes |
"oh nine three" |
| 21:00 |
danielpbarron |
"zero point nine point three" |
| 21:01 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm sure it matters to someone |
| 21:05 |
bounce |
``In August 2012 we first announced that we would downrank sites for which we received a large number of valid DMCA notices.'' -- they get flooded with bot-generated "DMCA notices". what do they do to make sure they're "valid"? looking at youtube, not that much. |
| 21:06 |
asciilifeform |
'heighten the contradictions' |
| 21:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7606 @ 0.00073798 = 5.6131 BTC [-] |
| 21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
<ben_vulpes> if 0.9 says "this txn sucks!" but an 0.6 miner included it, this takes us right to a hard fork << yep |
| 21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
and an incurable one, at that. |
| 21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
this was the mechanism of the previous hard fork : .8 miners included tx rejected by the network, moved on a different chain. |
| 21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
!up AdamIR |
| 21:12 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, that's Adam Tepper from that new aussie exchange |
| 21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
is this the thing with the bitfury buys ? |
| 21:13 |
cazalla |
no, that's digitalBTC |
| 21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ah independent reserve, kay. |
| 21:13 |
AdamIR |
http://www.independentreserve is our site. |
| 21:14 |
AdamIR |
Thanks for the invitation and introduction cazalla. |
| 21:14 |
AdamIR |
http://www.independentreserve.com rather. |
| 21:14 |
assbot |
Independent Reserve - The Bitcoin Market |
| 21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
AdamIR get in the wot. actually why aren';t you in there already ? |
| 21:16 |
undata |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/20/secret-service-fbi-hack-cybersecuurity/17615029/ |
| 21:16 |
assbot |
Officials warn 500 million financial records hacked |
| 21:17 |
undata |
<< "Our government and our businesses are in a daily fight against hackers," Pawlenty said. "It's getting increasingly concerning, and it needs to be met with action by Congress." >> |
| 21:17 |
undata |
oh good, more legislation |
| 21:17 |
AdamIR |
mircea_popescu - I joined #bitcoin-otc. Will have a look in more detail later, thanks. |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla i imagine these should really be all massed into one weekly post or something. X, Y and Z opened. K L and M closed." |
| 21:17 |
asciilifeform |
microshit still not razed and employees not publicly impaled, news at 11. |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe even have a dead pool |
| 21:17 |
kakobrekla |
AdamIR you dont want to be there. |
| 21:17 |
undata |
asciilifeform: they're going to make hacking even more illegal; you'll see! |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
<undata> oh good, more legislation << asciilifeform has it. "everyone ever worked for microsoft, one year in prison per year worked, plus one year in prison per 100k in salary ever received. sentences over 20 years commuted to death." |
| 21:18 |
AdamIR |
kakobrekla - just having a look what it's all about. |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone OTHER than ms has a year to either discontinue their business or fix it. |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
check out the sudden security everywhere |
| 21:19 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, that's an idea, i like to cover them just so i know if/when they close i have something to refer back to if they change their story at that point |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
AdamIRAway ok, so when you say last mover advantage/having studied what others did worng, what specifically do you mean ? |
| 21:19 |
asciilifeform |
'One Romanian hacker was lured to Boston by Secret Service Special Agent Matt O'Neill, who used the Internet to pose as a woman and invite the cybercriminal on a trip to the USA to enjoy gambling and romance. "He was quite surprised that I was the one meeting him when he arrived," said O'Neill, who worked on the case for months.' << lol, is anyone actually this stupid? even sp4mz0rs? |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla yeah, i feel you. but should really be one paragraph at best. just the details. |
| 21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yes. |
| 21:20 |
AdamIRAway |
mircea_popescu... there's a number of things we do right, particularly compared with others in the Australia-Pacific region. |
| 21:20 |
mircea_popescu |
AdamIRAway the idea was for specificity. |
| 21:20 |
AdamIRAway |
Yes... typing... |
| 21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
no rush. |
| 21:21 |
AdamIRAway |
I realise some other exchanges do some of these things, but some of the ways I think that Independent Reserve is ahead of a lot of our competition is... |
| 21:23 |
AdamIRAway |
1. Rather than rely on a technology/IT focused team (which is my own background), we brought onboard a lot of the executive team and investors with FX Markets, Investment Banking and Finance background, which I think has helped in many of the decisions we have made, and connections that we have made, and gives better overall balance and credibility to what we do. |
| 21:24 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, go can't hurt. |
| 21:24 |
AdamIRAway |
2. Rather than launch something quickly, we developed an enterprise level trading system over a period of twelve months and followed best practice in software development to develop a platform that we believe is secure, robust and stable. My own background as well as that of our CTO is in enterprise software development, and previously worked for many financial institutions in Australia. |
| 21:24 |
AdamIRAway |
3. We have a very rich API. I realise other exchanges have this also, but not so in Australia. |
| 21:25 |
mircea_popescu |
what ever came of MMADX incidentally ? |
| 21:25 |
AdamIRAway |
4. Most people, particularly Australians (but other nationalities also), can verify themselves online within minutes, usually without having to submit any identification documents. In some cases we can't automatically verify that, we can still verify manually. |
| 21:26 |
AdamIRAway |
5. Australians can make BPAY Deposits (it's an Australian thing), but we convert this to USD at around 2.5 % better than most banks will. International clients can do a SWIFT transfer direct into our USD account. The other Australian exchange trades AUD/XBT, but we chose USD to provide greater liquidity. |
| 21:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://asiaetrading.com/australian-company-to-automate-multi-trillion-dollar-debt-market-mmadx/ << |
| 21:26 |
assbot |
Australian Company to Automate Multi-Trillion Dollar Debt Market MMADX | AsiaEtrading.com |
| 21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
seems to have been "going to" in 2012 and then suddenly dissapeared. |
| 21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
is this a reuse of that platform ? |
| 21:27 |
AdamIRAway |
6. I think we are the only Bitcoin exchange in the world that is audited by one of the major auditing firms - PricewaterhouseCoopers |
| 21:27 |
mike_c |
PWC, the bitcoin experts! :) |
| 21:27 |
gabriel_laddel |
"to develop a platform that *we believe* is secure, robust and stable..." |
| 21:28 |
gabriel_laddel |
[emphasis mine] |
| 21:28 |
AdamIRAway |
7. And again, this only applies to Australians. Because we are an open market exchange (not a brokerage), we are not obligated to charge 10 % GST on transactions, like other brokerages in the region do. |
| 21:28 |
decimation |
AdamIRAway: you realize you basically saying "we are awesome at kyc/aml" |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation well, generally, "at interfacing with austrialian banks" |
| 21:29 |
AdamIRAway |
decimation... it's important to take KYC/AML seriously, in order for us to work with banks. We do our best to make it as painless as possible for our clients, if we can. |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory: |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
"MMADX hopes to turn profitable in 2015. According to the presentation, its projected earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization for fiscal 2016 and 2017 are A$23.2 million and A$34.2 million, respectively. At that time, or before, the company could undertake an initial public offering, the presentation states." |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
so it never actually listed, best i can discern. did it close down ? |
| 21:30 |
decimation |
AdamIRAway: are you going to be transparent to your customers w.r.t. actual daily balances? |
| 21:30 |
decimation |
or is that only for pwc? |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
'As progressively dumber programmers build progressively more complex systems we will see more of this kind of attempt to paper over coding mistakes with lawyers, sanctions, policies, and laws. Hollywood and the RIAA are usually the most successful at getting the government to do their bidding. Thus I predict that one day Disney will have a Web site where you can buy access to any of their movies. Because all |
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↖ ↖ ↖ ↖ ↖ ↖ |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
of their profits are being used to pay executive salaries this will have to be built at extremely low cost. Deficiencies in the softwrae will enable vast numbers of Americans to download Bambi for free, their ISPs will be forced to rat them out, and they will all get to see Martha's Stewart's cell in West Virginia first hand...' (greenspun. http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2005/03/08/#a7726 ) |
| 21:30 |
assbot |
Philip Greenspun's Weblog » 2005 » March » 08 |
| 21:30 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla if you have a clue how to go through the aussie corp register, it's company code: 34149069910 |
| 21:30 |
AdamIRAway |
gabriel_laddel... my emphasis was on *secure, robust and scalable* ;) |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform incidentally, didja know that what actually broke the chicago mob was their ill advised attempt to muscle hollywood into shape ? |
| 21:31 |
BingoBoingo |
AdamIRAway: Does you exchange handle shoebox in the mail full of paper money transactions? |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: unsurprising |
| 21:32 |
decimation |
people who tell the masses how to think and vote tend to maintain their position |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: probably not, but your postman does! |
| 21:32 |
gabriel_laddel |
AdamIRAway: I see. |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: he'll be happy to pay his grocery bill with them. |
| 21:33 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: propaganda ministry wins over ordinary mob |
| 21:33 |
AdamIRAway |
decimation... Pwc will be auditing our finances, and we will make their report available. We are looking to engage them to audit our XBT reserves as well shortly. We aren't currently transparent day-to-day regarding our reserves/balances, but it is obviously something we will be looking to do shortly after our launch. |
| 21:33 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, Cancelled from 28 Feb 2014 |
| 21:33 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: But in future world a shoebox full a benjies buys what? A single tomatoe? |
| 21:33 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: a few minutes of fire in potbelly stove |
| 21:33 |
decimation |
AdamIRAway: that pretty much sounds to me something like "we plan to float bitcoin and hope we don't get screwed" |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, since michael go doesn't seem on the menu, how did you get Admiral Markets's very own Lasanka Perera ? or what exactly is the arrangement there ? |
| 21:36 |
AdamIRAway |
decimation... I'm not sure how you interpreted my statement to reach that viewpoint. We take both our USD and XBT reserves very seriously, and will be looking to provide cryptograhic proof of our Bitcoin reserves shortly. |
| 21:36 |
AdamIRAway |
Lasanka Perera is a friend of mine, and co-founder of Independent Reserve. |
| 21:37 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, http://pastebin.com/DjYmbsEz |
| 21:37 |
assbot |
Australian Company MONEY MARKET AND DEBT EXCHANGE PTY. LTD. ACN 149 069 910 - Pastebin.com |
| 21:38 |
mircea_popescu |
AdamIRAway any comment on how MMDX got deregistered ? |
| 21:38 |
AdamIRAway |
mircea_popescu - no sorry, can you give me some more context? |
| 21:40 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. the context is like so : an old time forex broker with a kind-of mlm-y past that used to do metals and everything got together with a guy that had a company that was going to trade debt advertised then suddenly disappeared. they hired a coupla software dudes (you and the Przelozny) and a very clueless legal chick with no practice. in this context, i'm trying to figure out exactly how did said debt trading platform |
| 21:40 |
mircea_popescu |
company get closed down. |
| 21:42 |
mircea_popescu |
now my thinking is that you couldn't have spent very long making a dedicated platform, seeing how this just happened this year, so you're either reusing one or the other. i somehow doubt it's admiral's platform, so prolly im guessing mmdx's ? |
| 21:42 |
mircea_popescu |
!up AdamIRAway |
| 21:43 |
AdamIRAway |
mircea_popescu... I think you have the wrong idea about several points. |
| 21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
well that's good, that's what you're here for after all. |
| 21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Eric S Raymond builds a computer >> http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6389 |
| 21:43 |
assbot |
Spending the “Help Stamp Out CVS In Your Lifetime” fund |
| 21:43 |
AdamIRAway |
First of all, I'm not involved in any waay with MMDX - I hadn't heard of them until you mentioned it. |
| 21:44 |
mircea_popescu |
but you did some research on your partners or no ? |
| 21:44 |
AdamIRAway |
Secondly, we aren't using any software from Admiral Markets or MMDX, not a single line of code, I don't know what systems they've used previously. Our systems have been developed in-house over the past 15 months. |
| 21:44 |
asciilifeform |
eric raymond << obligatory: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archives |
| 21:44 |
assbot |
Everybody loves Eric Raymond |
| 21:44 |
mircea_popescu |
so this thing has existed for the past 15 months ?! |
| 21:45 |
asciilifeform |
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/gpl-sucker-punch |
| 21:45 |
assbot |
Everybody loves Eric Raymond » GPL sucker punch |
| 21:45 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
| 21:45 |
AdamIRAway |
Thirdly. Nobody hired a "couple of software dudes and a clueless legal chick", as you described... |
| 21:45 |
AdamIRAway |
Myself, along with Adrian Przelozny are the majority shareholders of Independent Reserve. |
| 21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
o, it goes the other way ? |
| 21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
interesting. |
| 21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ok so basically you and the prezelozny fellow made this thing and reached out for some consultancy work from finance and legal peeps ? |
| 21:47 |
AdamIRAway |
Our Compliance Specialist has a lot of experience in compliance obviously, and through her we have engaged Baker & McKenzie for specialised legal advice as required. |
| 21:47 |
* |
RagnarDanneskjol wonders how long this infomercial for indy reserve will go on (also do they have shiraz blend?).. changes channel |
| 21:47 |
AdamIRAway |
RagnarDanneskjol... I was invited here, and asked questions. |
| 21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
RagnarDanneskjol it's the trade gazette, what do you want. ppl gotta be able to answer. |
| 21:47 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ok cool |
| 21:47 |
mircea_popescu |
AdamIRAway dun worry about it. |
| 21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Nao I have more to read |
| 21:47 |
AdamIRAway |
Sorry they haven't been to your liking, I will be happy to leave if it's not welcome. |
| 21:48 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
dont mind me - sounded more like advert than adderessing relevant Qs |
| 21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
AdamIRAway anyway, i think i get the basic idea. it's not bad or anything. get in the wot so bitcoin people have a direct point of contact and other than that, time will tell. |
| 21:50 |
asciilifeform |
http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/eric-buys-an-ipod |
| 21:50 |
assbot |
Everybody loves Eric Raymond » Eric buys an Ipod |
| 21:58 |
BingoBoingo |
I remember his printer rant |
| 21:58 |
AdamIRAway |
mircea_popescu... I've just been trying to get some context regarding what you were saying before... I thought you were referring to something Lasanka had been involved with... |
| 21:58 |
AdamIRAway |
Adrian Przelozny, Lasanka Perera and myself were the co-founders of Independent Reserve. |
| 22:01 |
BingoBoingo |
!up AdamIR2 |
| 22:01 |
AdamIR2 |
I realise now you were talking about Michael Go, and his involvement with MMADX several years ago. I don't know the details of his involvement with that, but it is not connected with Independent Reserve. |
| 22:02 |
AdamIR2 |
On that note... I need to go back and so some work. Thanks for your questions. |
| 22:07 |
ben_vulpes |
was the blockchain written directly to disk at some point in the reference client's history? |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
'directly' ? |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
wasn't it always in a Berkeley db? |
| 22:09 |
ben_vulpes |
as opposed to BDB |
| 22:09 |
decimation |
like, as a flat text file or something? |
| 22:09 |
* |
ben_vulpes does not actually understand how the infinite layers of the modern v.n. architecture does it's nasty business. |
| 22:10 |
ben_vulpes |
decimation: i imagined something like that, yeah. |
| 22:10 |
decimation |
I doubt it, that would be crazy |
| 22:10 |
decimation |
the code is out there for reading though, I suppose |
| 22:10 |
ben_vulpes |
still working through the changelog |
| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.zorinaq.com/pub/bitcoin-0.1.0.tgz |
| 22:11 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: is that the 'satoshi' original turd? |
| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68121.0 << possibly |
| 22:11 |
assbot |
v0.1 |
| 22:11 |
* |
asciilifeform did not check the signature |
| 22:12 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/intel-subsidiary-fined-for-crypto-export/ |
| 22:12 |
assbot |
Intel Subsidiary Fined for Crypto Export | Qntra.net |
| 22:13 |
decimation |
hashs check the website, fwiw |
| 22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
<ben_vulpes> was the blockchain written directly to disk at some point in the reference client's history? << yes. |
| 22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
but that was long, long ago. |
| 22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> I doubt it, that would be crazy << o yeah ? THE WALLET FILE WAS UNENCRYPTED. |
| 22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
FOR TWO YEARS. |
| 22:15 |
decimation |
hehe good point |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
do not even get me started. they're using qt for fucks sake. |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
;;buy 1 "Printed and bound copy of Bitcoin ver. 0.6 source; organized into chapters by file, coloured for syntax." at 1 BTC |
| |
↖ |
| 22:15 |
gribble |
Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. |
| 22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
satoshi is like costanza when it comes to implementation. pretty much every choice he has made, be it something to eat, something to wear, has been wrong. |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
;;buy 1 "Printed and bound copy of Bitcoin ver. 0.6 source; organized into chapters by file, coloured for syntax." at 1 BTC |
| 22:16 |
gribble |
Order id 21595 created. |
| 22:16 |
decimation |
that bitcoin-0.1 turd definitely depends on db_cxx.h, which seems to be bdb, but that isn't a full answer |
| 22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell nubbins` ^ that something you can do ? |
| 22:16 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 22:16 |
asciilifeform |
human skin cover optional. |
| 22:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35843 @ 0.00073796 = 26.4507 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation im pretty certain it had flatfiles early on. |
| 22:19 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: lol @ your esr cartoon |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: not in 0.1... |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: perhaps in satoshi's head? |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
srsly what is this, anybody can grab the ancient source |
| 22:19 |
mircea_popescu |
so you're saying i have hallucinated this ?! |
| 22:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00073897 = 8.1287 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: looks like it. |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: you remember yourself, when telling the tale of why you didn't port it to msdos |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: no working bdb |
| 22:22 |
asciilifeform |
if not for the db crapolade, mine would be running on bare iron even now. |
| 22:22 |
asciilifeform |
(can't speak for other folks) |
| 22:22 |
decimation |
transactions are definitely stored in a Db * object, which appears to be the bdb C++ interface |
| 22:23 |
* |
mircea_popescu throws hands |
| 22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck knows. i coulda sworn. |
| 22:24 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, i would genuinely like that book. if someone wishes to make it happen. |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
and chances are i'm not the only one. |
| 22:25 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: me too |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
i'd pay quadruple for an intelligently-commented 'Lions Book'-style item |
| 22:25 |
decimation |
printing out your own shit is annoying |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
but not sure if anyone is qualified to produce this |
| 22:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform decimation i think it quite likely that once nubsy gets on you'll get your book. |
| 22:25 |
asciilifeform |
happy days. |
| 22:25 |
decimation |
yeah he's a printin' guy |
| 22:26 |
decimation |
The 'independent reserve' guys claim to use gpg signed email for customer support |
| 22:28 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: did you see that the new emacs has a web-browser mode builtin? |
| 22:28 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: did for ages ? |
| 22:29 |
decimation |
really? I thought one had to download from the crazy lisp package repo |
| 22:30 |
* |
asciilifeform confesses to being rather uninterested in ugly-as-sin www browsing |
| 22:30 |
asciilifeform |
and similarly stallmanesque exercises |
| 22:31 |
asciilifeform |
the sooner 'browser' dies as a paradigm, the better: |
| 22:31 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: it seems like a good idea on the surface, but in practice 90% of the web will be broken |
| 22:31 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=309 |
| 22:31 |
assbot |
Loper OS » No Formats, no Format Wars. |
| 22:32 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah it's true that the 'vision' of downloading and executing arbitrary code is exactly what the world needs |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation no it had a web browser for a long time |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: everybody seems shocked at that one |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: but 'surgeon' and 'maniac' are different items, though each cuts you open while you sleep. |
| 22:33 |
decimation |
exactly. And everyone has been told since they were little that execution is dangerous - which is on c-machines |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: in a same computing environment, nothing about 'downloading and executing arbitrary code' is frightening. |
| 22:34 |
undata |
asciilifeform: regarding the format wars post, I've fantasized about choosing to build for the canvas tag and forgetting the rest of the browser entirely |
| 22:34 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: did you see that IBM had to pay $1.5 bn to get rid of their chip business? |
| 22:35 |
asciilifeform |
lol yes |
| 22:35 |
undata |
just streaming commands to some canvas wrapper via a websocket |
| 22:35 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: thing is, this is not like you or i paying a junkman $100 to be rid of an ancient car |
| 22:35 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: it makes one sad. "why keep banging head against wall, and digging bigger ditch? why not try something really different" |
| 22:35 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: it's laundry / merit-washing. we simply don't know the details. |
| 22:35 |
gabriel_laddel |
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/comp.lang.lisp/V7yiSIfLEis/sIhFE4M5yk4J |
| 22:35 |
assbot |
Google Groups |
| 22:35 |
gabriel_laddel |
^ related |
| 22:36 |
decimation |
yeah I agree. how can a factory that can produce chips which rival intel's lithography 'lose money'? |
| 22:36 |
decimation |
either they are really really bad at making chips, or they are really really bad at choosing what to stamp out |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
or leverage shenanigans |
| 22:36 |
asciilifeform |
that only the gods know the bottom of |
| 22:37 |
asciilifeform |
or nsa contract lineup fell through this year |
| 22:37 |
asciilifeform |
or, or, or. |
| 22:37 |
decimation |
you mean 'friendly' money from usg |
| 22:38 |
decimation |
I strongly suspect that spending more money on nsa is going to be politically untenable for the near future |
| 22:38 |
decimation |
it will be amusing to see who 'starves' |
| 22:38 |
asciilifeform |
as if they needed money. |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
the future of u.s. taxation and criminal justice is probably the model of the 'traffic camera.' |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
see, e.g., orlov: |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
'With small businesses and private enterprise made illegal, most people will be forced to resort to illegal activities, under the watchful eye of the NSA. But since putting even more people in jail will be prohibitively expensive, a new, streamlined process of dispensing justice will be put into place: the NSA and the Justice Department will link computer systems, and verdicts of fraud and suspended sentences wi |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
ll be issued by a computer program, in absentia. In keeping with current practice, both the charge and the evidence will be kept secret. The newly minted felons will be dropped from voter rolls, their passports cancelled, their bank accounts confiscated, and their employment (if any) terminated. They will receive form letters informing them of their sentence but most of them will be unable to read it because fun |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
ctional illiteracy rates will go from the current 40% to 80-90%.' |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
^ http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/04/business-as-usual.html |
| 22:40 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: Business as usual |
| 22:40 |
decimation |
everyone knows the real purpose of the intel budget is to employ spouses of high-status usg types |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
that'd be dept. of state. |
| 22:41 |
decimation |
yeah them too |
| 22:41 |
gabriel_laddel |
wrong link above. apparently I recorded it by hand. I couldn't find the quote I had intended to post by googling, so here it is: http://pastebin.com/AnDwtySY from Emacs. |
| 22:41 |
assbot |
I started to reply at length to the many misstatements in your message. I don - Pastebin.com |
| 22:42 |
asciilifeform |
gabriel_laddel: yes, i linked to this on many occasions |
| 22:42 |
asciilifeform |
gabriel_laddel: wish i could remember where, though |
| 22:44 |
gabriel_laddel |
asciilifeform: google groups is rotting :/ |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
for years. |
| 22:44 |
decimation |
gabriel_laddel: yeah, emacs likes to claim 'self-documenting' but I find the quality of documentation to be pretty poor |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
gabriel_laddel: https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=comp.lang.lisp/XpvUwF2xKbk/Xz4Mww0ZwLIJ << original |
| 22:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15179 @ 0.0007405 = 11.24 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:45 |
gabriel_laddel |
decimation: It's by far the best I've found on UNIX. I've no LispM experiences and so can only imagine. |
| 22:45 |
gabriel_laddel |
thank you |
| 22:45 |
asciilifeform |
gabriel_laddel: (linked from ancient post of mine - http://www.loper-os.org/?p=85 ) |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
Loper OS » The Performance of Lisp, or Why Bean Counters Need Bigger Bags of Beans |
| 22:46 |
decimation |
I remember when google took over the old usenet archives, thought they would make them useful rather than let them rot |
| 22:46 |
asciilifeform |
they did. briefly. |
| 22:46 |
asciilifeform |
'dejanews' was a cesspool of pestilential spamvertising, the early 'google groups' was a breath of fresh air |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation> everyone knows the real purpose of the intel budget is to employ spouses of high-status usg types <<< only in places which are bored of living. |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: tired of living - 'жить надоело', heh |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
| 22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't have enough sense to make a wot. |
| 22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
no wot, no forum/ |
| 22:51 |
decimation |
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/what_the_byzantines_can_teach.html |
| 22:51 |
assbot |
Articles: What the Byzantines Can Teach Us about Our National Security |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
classic |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
also the book is neato. |
| 22:51 |
* |
asciilifeform likes luttwak |
| 22:52 |
decimation |
"The Byzantines had good spies, but no intelligence bureaucracy at all. Officials involved in the management of espionage performed these functions along with other duties. They never had a bureaucratic hierarchy of intelligence and never thought to create one. " |
| 22:53 |
decimation |
yeah spies need bureaucracy like ants need blueprints |
| 22:55 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: you might enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMcoOiOxLf8 |
| 22:55 |
assbot |
Conversations with History - Edward N. Luttwak - YouTube |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> yeah spies need bureaucracy like ants need blueprints << lol good one. |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
here's the thing tho : they do. |
| 22:59 |
mircea_popescu |
just, not a bureaucracy. they need management tho. |
| 23:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1874 @ 0.00073768 = 1.3824 BTC [-] |
| 23:01 |
decimation |
well, it's certainly the case that someone needs to have the 'big picture' in mind and issue instructions, I would think |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
generally there are no 'hobbyist spies' - they're called 'armchair generals' or something alike. |
| 23:03 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I suspect 'armchair general' describes 90% of usg |
| 23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
nah, i'll tell you what describes 90% of usg. |
| 23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Bill_de_Blasio_and_family.jpg << this. |
| 23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
you see this picture ? look well at it, for it's what it looks like. sad, tired, incredibly lonely middle age white guy |
| 23:04 |
mircea_popescu |
in a hell of his making. |
| 23:05 |
decimation |
pandering the masses must drain the soul |
| 23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly in the last place he'd ever be : his own life. |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
'This time of year, this part of Massachusetts is overrun by stampedes of shiny late-model SUVs with New York and New Jersey license plates. They are driven by various subspecies of the middle-aged well-to-do American Office Ogrethe lawyer, the doctor, the dentist, the banker, the lobbyist and the corporate businessmanthe people who are attempting to run off with all the loot. The majestic scenery is somew |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
hat spoiled by these surly, scowling, raspy-voiced ogres and their flabby, overmedicated wives with voices like an unoiled hinge. When not aimlessly driving around, they sit in upscale restaurants, toying with their food and gossiping menacingly. They have long forgotten what it means to be happy and carefree, and their labored attempts at feigning enjoyment are painful to watch. You can be sure that the sight o |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
f poor but happy people makes them quite livid.' |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
^ http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010_08_01_archive.html |
| 23:06 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: August 2010 |
| 23:11 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: this is probably one reason why usg policy is generally to crush the poor and happy |
| 23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
"Many people spent a big chunk of their lives investing in this dream and it didn't pan out quite as we wish." |
| 23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
no shortage of sad. |
| 23:16 |
undata |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX3rgYRY_zM |
| 23:16 |
assbot |
We Called It America - NOFX - YouTube |
| 23:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!up gibson |
| 23:19 |
undata |
where to move, if we're ash heap bound |
| 23:19 |
asciilifeform |
alpha centauri. |
| 23:19 |
asciilifeform |
if you can afford it. |
| 23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
argentina works. |
| 23:20 |
asciilifeform |
just the same as alpha centauri to me. |
| 23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
no, the chicks are way better. |
| 23:20 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
| 23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
!up bitstein |
| 23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
!up RagnarsBitch |
| 23:22 |
decimation |
http://squid314.livejournal.com/340809.html << "All of the white people who joined Indian tribes loved it and refused to go back to white civilization. All the Indians who joined white civilization hated it and did everything they could to go back to their previous tribal lives." |
| 23:22 |
assbot |
Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz - Book Review: Empire of the Summer Moon |
| 23:23 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: what makes you like Argentina? Things like wealth taxes don't convey a sense of respect for private property, though I can see how that'd be irrelevant to BTC wealth |
| 23:29 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: i distinctly remember reading this earlier. |
| 23:29 |
asciilifeform |
linked, almost certainly, from here. |
| 23:29 |
asciilifeform |
(or was it mircea_popescu ?) |
| 23:30 |
mircea_popescu |
undata da fuck do i care about their taxes. |
| 23:31 |
mircea_popescu |
but i like everything. i suppose i should spell it out huh. |
| 23:31 |
undata |
mircea_popescu: if you want; it wont be actionable for me for years |
| 23:32 |
asciilifeform |
;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885779 |
| 23:32 |
assbot |
Logged on 21-10-2014 02:15:37; asciilifeform: ;;buy 1 "Printed and bound copy of Bitcoin ver. 0.6 source; organized into chapters by file, coloured for syntax." at 1 BTC |
| 23:32 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 23:34 |
thestringpuller |
what kind of binding? |
| 23:34 |
asciilifeform |
^ this is not merely a printer's job; i can abide neither haphazardly broken lines nor miniscule print. |
| 23:34 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2014/10/moopay-scam-leads-to-possible-bitstamp-blacklists/ |
| 23:34 |
assbot |
MooPay Scam Leads to Possible Bitstamp Blacklists | Qntra.net |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
what kind of binding << lay-flat only. |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
absolutely no perforator or 3-ring. |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
could do those myself. |
| 23:36 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: as in soft leather cover? |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
paper ok |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
think 'o'reilly' books |
| 23:37 |
thestringpuller |
no leather bound LOTR style? |
| 23:37 |
thestringpuller |
why not wizard spellbook style |
| 23:38 |
asciilifeform |
if someone wants to do this for no more than 1 btc, sure. |
| 23:38 |
asciilifeform |
i specified - minimum. |
| 23:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28376 @ 0.00074074 = 21.0192 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:38 |
thestringpuller |
1 btc may go a long way in the future ;) |
| 23:38 |
asciilifeform |
eh. |
| 23:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00073768 = 12.098 BTC [-] |
| 23:50 |
thestringpuller |
;;calc 206000/390 |
| 23:51 |
gribble |
528.205128205 |
| 23:51 |
thestringpuller |
;;calc 206000 / 315 |
| 23:51 |
gribble |
653.968253968 |
| 23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
undata http://trilema.com/2014/mp-what-do-you-like-about-argentina/ there you go. |
| 23:51 |
assbot |
MP, what do you like about Argentina ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 23:56 |
thestringpuller |
!up bitstein |
| 23:56 |
thestringpuller |
!up RagnarsBitch |