| 00:15 |
Vexual |
g'day cazalla |
| 00:15 |
cazalla |
hey Vexual |
| 00:15 |
Vexual |
how are ya mate? |
| 00:15 |
cazalla |
tired, missus is out getting hair done so im stuck with baby |
| 00:16 |
cazalla |
you? |
| 00:16 |
Vexual |
yeah painfully sober |
| 00:16 |
Vexual |
did you see big clive palmer with al gore? |
| 00:17 |
cazalla |
nah, i don't follow it closely nor do i vote |
| 00:17 |
cazalla |
what's he up to? |
| 00:19 |
Vexual |
he flew gore in to stand next to him at a press conference and give the nod to repealing the carbon tax with a view to setting up interational emmissions trading |
| 00:20 |
cazalla |
on his own dime or taxpayers? |
| 00:21 |
Vexual |
well there are no details |
| 00:21 |
Vexual |
hes a funny bugger |
| 00:22 |
cazalla |
you would've loved dinner last night, crumbed rabbit, pan fried for 5 and then into oven for 30m |
| 00:23 |
Vexual |
he rolled up to parliment in his vintage silver shadow a few weeks back, van morrison blasting, hopped out and gave a speech to the waiting press about how politicians should pay for their own cars |
| 00:23 |
Vexual |
what did you have with it? |
| 00:23 |
cazalla |
rocket salad |
| 00:23 |
cazalla |
and some thai dipping sauce from coles heh |
| 00:23 |
Vexual |
that sounds too good |
| 00:24 |
cazalla |
have a bunch of livers to make pate with on weekend too |
| 00:24 |
Vexual |
rabbit pate is a thing? |
| 00:25 |
cazalla |
supposedly, i've never had or made it before, i've been keeping livers frozen as it didn't seem worthwhile to make a small amount and i butcher them as needed so it's not like i have a lot of livers at once |
| 00:25 |
cazalla |
i can't imagine it taste too different from chicken pate etc |
| 00:25 |
Vexual |
maybe not |
| 00:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.04100001 = 0.902 BTC [-] |
| 00:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04100002 = 0.656 BTC [+] |
| 00:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.041 = 1.558 BTC [-] |
| 00:38 |
bloctoc |
http://savetoby.com/ |
| 00:38 |
assbot |
Savetoby.com | Only YOU have the power to Save Toby! |
| 00:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04050001 = 0.9315 BTC [-] |
| 00:45 |
Vexual |
I'll have the Lapin Braisé |
| 00:48 |
cazalla |
lol toby |
| 01:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82100 @ 0.00082367 = 67.6233 BTC [-] {6} |
| 01:02 |
benkay |
so how much did the rabbit go for? |
| 01:03 |
* |
benkay imagines thepyruvatebay.se |
| 01:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00082588 = 10.4887 BTC [+] |
| 01:07 |
Vexual |
its about $16kilo dressed |
| 01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
o look at all the logs |
| 01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Ken` |
| 01:22 |
moiety |
I've been thinking about salmon since you left |
| 01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
came out pretty good |
| 01:24 |
moiety |
i'm gonna have to get some today |
| 01:24 |
Vexual |
skin on needs to be fryed hard on that side |
| 01:24 |
cazalla |
skin is the best bit |
| 01:25 |
Vexual |
yeah but if it's not fried fast enough it's chewy |
| 01:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete not so sure i did. o wait, http://trilema.com/2014/most-wrong-and-absolutely-wrongest/ right you are |
| 01:25 |
assbot |
Most wrong and absolutely wrongest pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 01:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla i usually throw it away |
| 01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
this sushi place i go to has salmon skin rolls, i'm like... wtf, make me an orange and banana peels salad next |
| 01:26 |
Vexual |
i remove it just for knife skills |
| 01:28 |
cazalla |
sacrilege |
| 01:28 |
cazalla |
i wish i could buy skin only |
| 01:29 |
moiety |
ew |
| 01:29 |
Vexual |
lets do a deal |
| 01:29 |
Vexual |
the diff in price at the shop is more than the knife skills and the weight combined |
| 01:30 |
moiety |
they left the scales on haddock once in a restaurant i as at. i don't know if it was a mistake or that happens anywhere in the world but just.. no. |
| 01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
AirbndUberApp, that sounds unavoidable. |
| 01:30 |
Vexual |
cazalla, remember these people probabl;y get real atlantic salmon too |
| 01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
"it's like airbnb of messaging and uber of boarding houses rolled into a joint and whazzup dude ?" |
| 01:31 |
Vexual |
we get it's cousin |
| 01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual ba is on a river. salmon lives here. |
| 01:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00082588 = 10.3235 BTC [+] |
| 01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety: i was marooned on the sofa for some time due to a rather fast large spider travelling around my livingroom floor <<< ahahaha so cute |
| 01:32 |
cazalla |
Vexual: how about aussie salmon :P ugh |
| 01:33 |
mircea_popescu |
bloctoc: they would have to be sold at a later date since there are no buy orders yet. << actually that 25 was a buy order iirc |
| 01:33 |
Vexual |
i love me some aussie salmon |
| 01:34 |
cazalla |
really? |
| 01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal: Example was. If Bitpay is worth 1Billion usd, FB forks over 1 Billion USD, FB valuation stays same << this is an example out of the "spherical chicken in vacuum" variety. |
| 01:35 |
cazalla |
Vexual: i always throw them back |
| 01:35 |
Vexual |
what are you trying to catch? |
| 01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal: The site profits off total volume, not someone forking over a risky bet on one side << nobody prevents you from covering the short end after bet is approved. |
| 01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
if you figure your odds are 2:5 put 2 btc on the short odds then put .8 on the long odds and there you go. |
| 01:36 |
moiety |
scottish salmon is lovely cazalla |
| 01:37 |
Vexual |
mircea_popesu:saw your blog salmon, looked nice and fat; was it local? |
| 01:37 |
dub |
I dont think aussie salmon has anything to do with salmon |
| 01:37 |
cazalla |
dub: spot on |
| 01:37 |
moiety |
oh |
| 01:37 |
cazalla |
it's foul |
| 01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual ya |
| 01:37 |
cazalla |
Vexual: tailor, whiting, bream, kingies |
| 01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
dub agreed. it's prolly scottish salmon |
| 01:37 |
cazalla |
get some leather jacket too |
| 01:38 |
Vexual |
is that in order>? |
| 01:38 |
cazalla |
aussie salmon is a great game fish but shitty eating |
| 01:38 |
dub |
cazalla: if aussie salmon is what I think it is then you are probably fucking it up |
| 01:38 |
cazalla |
Vexual: depends on time of year and where I am, I don't do much fishing down here in Melbourne, more so when I go up Sydney with my brother/father |
| 01:38 |
Vexual |
its called kahawai in nz |
| 01:38 |
Vexual |
aussie salmon |
| 01:38 |
dub |
you need to bleed it |
| 01:38 |
cazalla |
dub: maybe I am but I've tried numerous times and it always taste awful |
| 01:39 |
cazalla |
yeah I've bleed it |
| 01:39 |
Vexual |
did you ever smoke it? |
| 01:39 |
cazalla |
nope, how's that? |
| 01:39 |
Vexual |
well its an oily fish, so it smokes well |
| 01:39 |
cazalla |
i mean, you can get it at the fish market for 2.99 a kg that's how bad it is |
| 01:39 |
moiety |
smoked salmon is gorgeous |
| 01:39 |
dub |
its not oily if you bleed it |
| 01:40 |
Vexual |
where are you from dub? |
| 01:40 |
mircea_popescu |
<dub> its not oily if you bleed it << he's found the cure for colesterol. |
| 01:40 |
dub |
dublandistan |
| 01:41 |
Vexual |
in australia we call what you know as salmon ocean trout |
| 01:41 |
Vexual |
and it'll slap you in the face its so good |
| 01:42 |
Vexual |
but then theres aussie salmon, which isnt salmon |
| 01:42 |
Vexual |
but thats what we call it |
| 01:42 |
Vexual |
coz is tastes gooode |
| 01:42 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2P4K0HT.txt ) |
| 01:42 |
benkay |
!b 4 |
| 01:42 |
benkay |
Vexual what's wrong with you |
| 01:42 |
benkay |
when did you start making sense |
| 01:43 |
benkay |
who's taken over Vexual's computer? |
| 01:43 |
Vexual |
temporarily sober |
| 01:43 |
moiety |
he's sober today |
| 01:43 |
benkay |
o wait i read that in the log! |
| 01:43 |
benkay |
my sympathies |
| 01:43 |
benkay |
here, have a weird: https://twitter.com/saladinahmed/status/482000455921577984 |
| 01:43 |
assbot |
This is a thing: Greenscreen-clad workers who secretly flip models' hair during shampoo commercials. http://t.co/tfHvykkxS8 ht /MakingOfs |
| 01:44 |
dub |
just about got my cholesterol bled out on the way home |
| 01:46 |
dub |
pulled out from outside bar, dodge slow traffic lane, wot in clear lane, oncoming bbw buts across gab in slow lane into mine |
| 01:46 |
dub |
gap* |
| 01:47 |
moiety |
o.o |
| 01:47 |
dub |
ABS engaged, no seatbelt yet, jimmies retracting |
| 01:50 |
Vexual |
did you fuck her? |
| 01:50 |
BingoBoingo |
What, was the sidewalk to narrow for this bbw? |
| 01:52 |
dub |
Vexual: nearly |
| 01:52 |
Vexual |
lol |
| 01:57 |
Vexual |
is your scooter okay? |
| 01:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.04498489 = 0.9897 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:09 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 02:09 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 402819.45 in 1812 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -21.25 |
| 02:10 |
Vexual |
can't evenm tut at the devs |
| 02:13 |
davout |
"in australia we call what you know as salmon ocean trout" <<< i saw already opened oysters being sold there Oo |
| 02:14 |
Vexual |
sydney? |
| 02:14 |
davout |
le gross |
| 02:14 |
davout |
melbourne |
| 02:14 |
Vexual |
oh |
| 02:14 |
Vexual |
sydney oysters are really good, its a thing |
| 02:18 |
Vexual |
and yes, they are provided open, because you are not an otter |
| 02:25 |
BingoBoingo |
What, I'm hairy and spend a lot of time in the water |
| 02:26 |
Vexual |
yes you can probly open an oyster, but in polite company.. |
| 02:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Fuck you! I'm an otter! |
| 02:28 |
Vexual |
ok leave his unshucked |
| 02:30 |
Vexual |
;;seen nubbins' |
| 02:30 |
gribble |
I have not seen nubbins'. |
| 02:31 |
Vexual |
whats that cats name? |
| 02:40 |
Vexual |
benkay:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_iVxiBNGFM |
| 02:42 |
moiety |
;;seen nubbins` |
| 02:42 |
gribble |
nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 11 hours, 19 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <nubbins`> http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif |
| 02:43 |
moiety |
so are btc-e scam now? or have i just been unlucky? |
| 02:46 |
Vexual |
whats the problem? |
| 02:47 |
moiety |
i withdrew via wire transfer. its £91 short |
| 02:47 |
punkman |
moiety, one of these days btc-e will disappear, don't be a bagholder |
| 02:48 |
moiety |
wasnt planning on using it again, just a one off thing for quickness...stupidly |
| 02:48 |
moiety |
1018/ 1003 after fees. 911 received |
| 02:48 |
punkman |
maybe there's an extra moiety fee |
| 02:48 |
moiety |
i cant find anything else like this on them at all |
| 02:48 |
Vexual |
bank wire are expensive, i dont know about btce |
| 02:48 |
moiety |
i'll hunt them down with manuls if thats the case |
| 02:50 |
moiety |
btce says 1.5% fee which was accounted for though Vexual |
| 03:04 |
davout |
Vexual: "and yes, they are provided open, because you are not an otter" <<< men open their oysters |
| 03:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00082555 = 16.9238 BTC [-] |
| 03:22 |
moiety |
o apparently they just add another £100 fee on |
| 03:34 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Does Scotland have capital controls? |
| 03:38 |
moiety |
not that i know of but apparently its a worry in independence |
| 03:42 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 03:42 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 405267.07 in 1803 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -20.77 |
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| 04:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 98 @ 0.19660978 = 19.2678 BTC [+] {9} |
| 04:06 |
pankkake |
wait you can buy F.DERP too? |
| 04:07 |
assbot |
Vallance +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 04:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00082297 = 5.5962 BTC [-] |
| 04:09 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vallance |
| 04:09 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ident Vallance |
| 04:09 |
gribble |
Nick 'Vallance', with hostmask 'Vallance!~Admin@209.222.5.229', is identified as user 'Vallance', with GPG key id 6F25D26878495E5B, key fingerprint 13E5460851BAFFA53AC574336F25D26878495E5B, and bitcoin address None |
| 04:09 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust Vallance |
| 04:09 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask Vallance!~Admin@209.222.5.229. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Vallance: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=Vallance | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Vallance | Rated since: never |
| 04:09 |
Vallance |
Thanks |
| 04:09 |
BingoBoingo |
You're welcome |
| 04:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00082267 = 17.2761 BTC [-] |
| 04:10 |
BingoBoingo |
What brings you here today Vallance? |
| 04:11 |
Vallance |
Well, just trying to become more pro-active about using the WoT and I follow MPOE quite a bit and enjoy the opinions this channel shares. |
| 04:12 |
Vallance |
It's becoming increasingly more difficult to find a place to have an intelligent conversation about Bitcoin in public on the internet. |
| 04:12 |
bloctoc |
!ticker MPEX F.DERP |
| 04:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: It is indeed a problem |
| 04:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: What other sort of stuff do you do in the republic of Bitcoin? |
| 04:16 |
Vallance |
Myself and a couple others run a small Bitcoin exchange known as BitSpot. It's not an exchange as in the sense of BitStamp or BTC-E, it's more in the sense of CoinMama or the former BitInstant |
| 04:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Interesting |
| 04:17 |
|
Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "World Cup 2014: Germany to net more than 7 goals" http://bitbet.us/bet/938/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.36090125 BTC. Current weight: 61,518. |
| 04:18 |
Vallance |
We were hoping to target our suburban town and cause a good stir but our physical business traffic isn't near what we hoped. |
| 04:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, Kentucky... |
| 04:19 |
Duffer1 |
i've never heard of coinmama |
| 04:20 |
Vallance |
They've been around for a little bit, the main thing about them is that they accept credit cards and debit cards. |
| 04:20 |
Vallance |
I have no idea how it's working out for them though. |
| 04:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, Ashland is in the inconvenient part of Kentucky |
| 04:22 |
Vallance |
Yeah, it's almost like trends and technology are a couple years behind for most people here. |
| 04:23 |
Vallance |
Although I do believe there are large sums of people who could benefit from Bitcoin in the area |
| 04:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Kind of hoping Ashland was closer to Paduca which would be a reasonable drive |
| 04:23 |
Vallance |
Yeah, the farthest someone has came to us has been from Cincinatti |
| 04:24 |
Vallance |
Actually it is this guy, just came down last week: http://andyschroder.com/BitcoinFluidDispenser/ |
| 04:24 |
assbot |
Andy Schroder - |
| 04:27 |
punkman |
Vallance, is this you https://www.bitspot.co/invest/ |
| 04:27 |
assbot |
Invest | BitSpot |
| 04:28 |
Vallance |
It's something we're working on, yes. |
| 04:29 |
Vallance |
It's just the problem with juggling the legalities and how things would "technically" work. |
| 04:29 |
punkman |
no that's not the problem |
| 04:30 |
Duffer1 |
TaT said it earlier |
| 04:30 |
Duffer1 |
what happens when paypal enters the room and says "thanks for warming my seat." |
| 04:31 |
bloctoc |
I heard today from reliable sources that gas stations don't want a phone that close to their pumps. needs to be bluetooth. |
| 04:32 |
Vallance |
Well, the vision I have in mind is to form somewhat of a decentralized liquidity network that anyone could become a part of either through a stake in the liquidity or operating an ATM. |
| 04:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: A physical location in the US and an investment solicitation... seems dangerous... |
| 04:32 |
Vallance |
Yeah, that's why we have the brakes on. |
| 04:32 |
Vallance |
Thinking of re-structuring our business affairs |
| 04:33 |
punkman |
did you IPO already? |
| 04:33 |
Duffer1 |
i hear argentina is nice :P |
| 04:33 |
Vallance |
no, not at all. |
| 04:33 |
Vallance |
The truth is we started out just as anyone would with Bitcoin trading I suppose |
| 04:33 |
punkman |
most people start with the CSS |
| 04:34 |
Vallance |
Next thing you know it snowballs into a real business |
| 04:34 |
bloctoc |
Do you have an indication that ATMs are providing liquidity? |
| 04:35 |
bloctoc |
I haven't seen anyone boasting about how much money their ATM is making. |
| 04:36 |
Vallance |
I believe the ATMs will build good infrastructure for Bitcoin and associate it with new people |
| 04:37 |
Vallance |
Also the ATMs would help lower the costs of transaction fees that people are facing by using Western Union & MoneyGram |
| 04:38 |
punkman |
so where are you at now, roughly how much BTC volume per month? |
| 04:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.04749499 = 2.2798 BTC [+] |
| 04:39 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Vallance |
| 04:39 |
Vallance |
A decent day is around $10,000 worth of volume a day. I know it's not huge, but we don't want to promote more than we can handle. |
| 04:39 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: Honestly I'd kill the Invest page now |
| 04:39 |
Vallance |
Our margin is 10% both ways. |
| 04:40 |
bloctoc |
$10,000 through an ATM? or is that on the internet? |
| 04:40 |
Vallance |
That's total |
| 04:40 |
punkman |
Vallance: not too bad |
| 04:40 |
BingoBoingo |
And start flensing the javascript on the site. |
| 04:40 |
bloctoc |
yeah that's a nice thing you got going |
| 04:40 |
Vallance |
You're right, I will turn it off right now, just totally forgot in all honesty. We're understaffed. |
| 04:41 |
punkman |
you don't want to use Counterparty either |
| 04:41 |
pankkake |
;;ticker --market bitcoin-central --vol |
| 04:41 |
gribble |
63.36856219 |
| 04:41 |
Vallance |
I've had a lot of chats with the founders of Counterparty and Counterwallet, I feel pretty good about their platform. |
| 04:42 |
Vallance |
I'm honestly surprised about how it's not more popular? |
| 04:42 |
Vallance |
Besides Counterparty I only have experience with Mastercoin, which I'm not a big fan of |
| 04:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Both platforms can have their problems. |
| 04:43 |
punkman |
they only have problems |
| 04:43 |
bloctoc |
Vallance are you providing KYC/AML as part of your network? I'm asking because I have a Lamassu |
| 04:43 |
pankkake |
well mastercoin is made by people who don't know what they are doing, counterparty is in a slighly better position |
| 04:44 |
Vallance |
Yes, that's the plan. |
| 04:44 |
Vallance |
The people who run our ATMs (or could even be theirs) would just need to handle cashing out the machine and maintenance |
| 04:45 |
BingoBoingo |
So... What's the procedure if I just drive in with a shoebox full of cash? |
| 04:47 |
Vallance |
At an ATM or within our office? |
| 04:47 |
Vallance |
We haven't had anyone drive in with a shoebox yet |
| 04:47 |
Vallance |
You would be surprised at the old, nearly looking homeless people who have sold us a handful of Bitcoin though |
| 04:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: In your office. |
| 04:47 |
Vallance |
Didn't even know how to transfer it |
| 04:48 |
Vallance |
Scan your ID and sign a piece of paper |
| 04:48 |
BingoBoingo |
Person comes in with a shoebox of cash, and a printout of an address to pay to with a GPG signature. |
| 04:49 |
punkman |
Vallance, register with gribble, you can probably pick up some good volume marketmaking on OTC |
| 04:49 |
punkman |
oh never mind |
| 04:49 |
punkman |
you are authed |
| 04:49 |
Vallance |
That's what I did, I've been really wanting to become more active here. |
| 04:50 |
Vallance |
I've lurked the irc logs and the trilema blog quite a bit. |
| 04:50 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate Vallance 1 Lending +v |
| 04:50 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Vallance has been recorded. |
| 04:52 |
Vallance |
We're really trying to re-work our current system and way of handling things first and foremost. We started with the p2p trading and the problem is we're still operating in that fashion. People enjoy the broker-client relationship but it just doesn't scale that well. |
| 04:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: P2P trading is probably where the better margins are. |
| 04:53 |
Apocalyptic |
^ |
| 04:53 |
BingoBoingo |
If you go exclusively mass market Paypal eats your lunch and people who hate paypal settle for BitStamp's two cans, a string, and a rectal probe |
| 04:54 |
Vallance |
I know, it's really insane at how hard it is to move money around the USA. |
| 04:54 |
BingoBoingo |
If you were to offer a network of atms across a region, maintain an office for inperson service, and have some limited interaction with the web you could carve a nice niche. |
| 04:55 |
Vallance |
If it was up to me then I would've moved to Panama, but my wife wasn't having it. |
| 04:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Panama's overcrowded |
| 04:55 |
Vallance |
That's the goal Bingo. |
| 04:55 |
Vallance |
I'm honestly open to anywhere else but here |
| 04:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Also, since money transmitting across the whole US is a pain, just license in kentucky, a few neighboring states, and the rest of the US can be serviced by other people. |
| 04:57 |
BingoBoingo |
At a minimum probably grab licenses for Illinois, Ohio, and Tennessee |
| 04:58 |
Vallance |
As far as geographical area, I don't see any real competition in any of those areas, including Kentucky. |
| 04:58 |
Vallance |
or anyone showing interest yet |
| 04:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, the midwest and mid south are underserved. |
| 05:00 |
Vallance |
We've had quite a few people travel about 100 miles to exchange |
| 05:00 |
Vallance |
What blows my mind is the type of people we've encountered that is involved in Bitcoin |
| 05:01 |
BingoBoingo |
I'd consider the 6-8 hour drive if I had fiat to dispose of. |
| 05:01 |
Vallance |
Also most of our online business is composed of small transactions ranging from $100-$300 |
| 05:01 |
Vallance |
That is where we make our margins, it isn't that much to them. |
| 05:01 |
Vallance |
At the end of the day though it adds up for us |
| 05:02 |
Vallance |
In the works of trying to negotiate a deal with Western Union that would allow people to send us payments through their service as a "Bill Payment" so they would only have to pay $5 |
| 05:02 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/swat-team-blew-hole-my-2-year-old-son |
| 05:03 |
assbot |
A SWAT Team Blew a Hole in My 2-Year-Old Son | Alternet |
| 05:05 |
pankkake |
so they moved up from dogs. great. |
| 05:05 |
Vallance |
Wow, that is insane. |
| 05:06 |
Vallance |
Even if the child survives what about the loud deafening bang and flash that happened right over top of him |
| 05:06 |
Vallance |
I'm sure that will have a permanent effect |
| 05:08 |
punkman |
BingoBoingo: and you want to drive around with shoeboxes full of cash |
| 05:09 |
punkman |
you aren't even gonna make it to the gasenwagen |
| 05:09 |
punkman |
Vallance, you can !up yourself now |
| 05:10 |
Vallance |
Punkman, thanks |
| 05:10 |
BingoBoingo |
punkman: You can still fit a lot of pennies in a shoebox |
| 05:12 |
punkman |
BingoBoingo: I suppose they won't care so much about dogecoins |
| 05:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00082267 = 9.2139 BTC [-] |
| 05:14 |
BingoBoingo |
punkman: Vending machines are still a think. Probably the best way for a vending machine operator to get bitcoin from vending machines is... Exchanging the cash directly. |
| 05:19 |
Vallance |
I had someone contact me a couple months ago about KYC/AML Identification services. They may have been a new company, can't clearly remember. They are supposed to streamline and handle all your compliance requirements for you when interacting with customers on exchanging funds. |
| 05:20 |
Naphex |
Vallance: i'm not sure how many people will handover 3rd party data |
| 05:20 |
Naphex |
or how many exchanges/bussiness will want a 3rd party holding highly private data |
| 05:20 |
Vallance |
That's how I felt too |
| 05:20 |
Vallance |
It's honestly one of the things that I'm most torn about. In all reality I want to know as least as possible. |
| 05:21 |
Vallance |
I just want to know if the money you're sending is good, that's all I would like to know but then the government and state have to get involved. |
| 05:22 |
Naphex |
one of the problems with 3rd party validation, is who would get goverment wrath. I doubt they'd be going after the validation service instead of the exchange |
| 05:23 |
Naphex |
everyone just attacks the person who moves the money, so might as well just do your own AML/KYC |
| 05:24 |
Vallance |
The only real problem as far as moving money has went has been with Chase Bank, they're horrible. |
| 05:25 |
Vallance |
Credit Unions are the ideal people to bank with but unfortunately my preferred one around here isn't a part of the CU Swirl Network |
| 05:26 |
Vallance |
Hey, does anyone know what is going on with UpDown.bt ? |
| 05:26 |
Naphex |
Vallance: never heard of it before, is that binary options? |
| 05:27 |
Vallance |
I seen a few accusations fly around at Bitcointalk.org, I've been following their business seeing how it goes since they came out |
| 05:27 |
Vallance |
Yeah but they don't publish their feeds and now it doesn't even seem like they are paying out immediately (that's something I don't understand with automated services and Bitcoin) |
| 05:27 |
Vallance |
The biggest thing of it all is that they are a Gold Member at the BitcoinFoundation |
| 05:27 |
Naphex |
well flashing a Bitcoin Foundation Gold Member |
| 05:28 |
Naphex |
is in no way a sign of trust :) |
| 05:28 |
Vallance |
Oh, trust me I know |
| 05:28 |
Vallance |
They were shilling for them in a couple press releases on TBF |
| 05:28 |
pankkake |
so they still vouch for services - they have learned nothing |
| 05:29 |
Vallance |
but what gets me is that they don't even show where they are getting their data from, or will they disclose it |
| 05:29 |
Vallance |
They were very open about that. |
| 05:29 |
punkman |
Vallance: does uptdown.bt start the timer when they see your tx at zero conf? |
| 05:30 |
pankkake |
by the way http://btcoracle.com/ French competitor |
| 05:30 |
assbot |
BTCOracle | bitcoin binary options trading |
| 05:30 |
Naphex |
punkman: probably, i'd suck to do 60seconds binary options with 3 confirmations :) |
| 05:30 |
Vallance |
I've only tested it like twice with small amounts, I don't remember. |
| 05:30 |
Vallance |
Yeah I really like BTCOracle |
| 05:30 |
pankkake |
they're in my non-bitcoin web of trust |
| 05:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Vallance: Are you or your business in the foundation? |
| 05:31 |
Vallance |
No |
| 05:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Cool |
| 05:32 |
punkman |
pankkake: do they start the timer at zero conf? |
| 05:32 |
pankkake |
I don't know, I never used it myself |
| 05:33 |
punkman |
can't believe no one cares to put this in their FAQ |
| 05:33 |
Vallance |
The TBF hasn't even done anything positive for Bitcoin, all they have done is promote companies that end up ripping people off. |
| 05:33 |
Vallance |
They also made themselves a target to be slaughtered by the media because of their scandals |
| 05:34 |
pankkake |
" We use the time of the transaction from http://blockchain.info/ to determine the exact second where the option was created, and then we use the list of mtgox transactions that is available via the http://Bitcoincharts.com/ mtgox historic API to determine both the opening price and the closing price of the option. " |
| 05:34 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Block Explorer - Blockchain.info |
| 05:34 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Charts |
| 05:34 |
pankkake |
" In case of lag from blockchain.info timestamp, we will use the timestamp from our own client. We will always check for the earliest possible timestamp we can get to ensure you have the smoothest experience possible. " |
| 05:34 |
pankkake |
that FAQ should be updated |
| 05:40 |
punkman |
pankkake: cool, just gave it a try |
| 05:44 |
Vallance |
Okay so planefinder.net is telling me there are 4786 planes in the air and UpDown.bt is telling me 6318 |
| 05:47 |
Vallance |
Flightradar24.com is saying around 6,300 |
| 05:49 |
pankkake |
http://www.cnet.com/news/yahoos-mayer-apologized-for-being-late-to-advertiser-dinner/ |
| 05:49 |
assbot |
Yahoo's Mayer 'apologized' for being late to advertiser dinner - CNET |
| 05:51 |
punkman |
good, Marissa's bet needs some drama |
| 05:51 |
punkman |
http://bitbet.us/bet/967/yahoo-ceo-marissa-mayer-to-be-yahoo-ceo/ |
| 05:51 |
assbot |
BitBet - Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer to be Yahoo CEO no more :: 0.06 B (40%) on Yes, 0.09 B (60%) on No | closing in 11 months 3 weeks | weight: 99`832 (100`000 to 1) |
| 05:53 |
Vallance |
Shares move down 9 percent after she overslept, lol. |
| 05:54 |
Vallance |
Why wouldn't you just come up with a bullshit story, i'd imagine it's hard enough being a female CEO of a tech company. |
| 05:54 |
pankkake |
perhaps it is the bullshit story |
| 05:55 |
Duffer1 |
9% because someone was late? |
| 05:55 |
punkman |
%book |
| 05:55 |
atcbot |
65k@280 30k@279 50k@278 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 |
| 05:55 |
Apocalyptic |
talk about ration investors |
| 05:55 |
Apocalyptic |
*rational |
| 06:05 |
pankkake |
http://science.slashdot.org/story/14/06/25/2239246/matchcom-mensa-create-dating-site-for-geniuses |
| 06:05 |
assbot |
Match.com, Mensa Create Dating Site For Geniuses - Slashdot |
| 06:08 |
Apocalyptic |
pankkake, did you register ? |
| 06:09 |
pankkake |
what's the required IQ? |
| 06:09 |
pankkake |
not that I've done serious IQ tests |
| 06:14 |
Apocalyptic |
no idea |
| 06:15 |
davout |
pankkake: i think mensa requires 150 or sthg |
| 06:16 |
pankkake |
yes, so I probably can't |
| 06:28 |
cazalla |
oh wow, pokerstars was sold for 4.9b |
| |
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| 07:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12618 @ 0.00082182 = 10.3697 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 07:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25882 @ 0.00082272 = 21.2936 BTC [+] {2} |
| 07:27 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
| 07:27 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 566.96, Best ask: 569.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.04000, Last trade: 569.0, 24 hour volume: 8263.87757571, 24 hour low: 554.45, 24 hour high: 572.87, 24 hour vwap: 563.04930274 |
| 07:32 |
BingoBoingo |
%t |
| 07:32 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 278 Last Price: 279 24h-Vol: 70k High: 279 Low: 222 VWAP: 258 |
| 07:39 |
BingoBoingo |
!mpif |
| 07:39 |
assbot |
BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+] |
| 07:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43592 @ 0.0008251 = 35.9678 BTC [+] {3} |
| 07:51 |
pankkake |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665403.0 no one even mentions the only profitable investment on Havelock |
| 07:51 |
assbot |
Why Do You Invest? |
| 07:51 |
pankkake |
they just like shit too much |
| 07:53 |
mircea_popescu |
which was that ? |
| 07:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22673 @ 0.00082369 = 18.6755 BTC [-] {3} |
| 07:56 |
punkman |
but they are all profitable in lols |
| 07:56 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 07:56 |
mircea_popescu |
YEAH! |
| 07:56 |
mircea_popescu |
profitlolable |
| 07:56 |
punkman |
who's lambchop |
| 07:57 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2014#732705 |
| 07:57 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 07:57 |
mircea_popescu |
iitl |
| 07:58 |
pankkake |
mircea_popescu: XBOND |
| 07:58 |
mircea_popescu |
was that namworld's ? |
| 07:59 |
pankkake |
no, ThickAsThieves. Namworld issued on BTC-TC |
| 07:59 |
mircea_popescu |
ah yes |
| 07:59 |
pankkake |
the two loans I know of, on BitFunder, defaulted |
| 08:00 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, namworld's loans you mean ? |
| 08:00 |
pankkake |
no |
| 08:02 |
chetty |
just when you thought it couldn't get any dumber:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/26/us/politics/boehner-to-seek-bill-to-sue-obama-over-executive-actions.html?_r=0 |
| 08:03 |
mircea_popescu |
lol the butthurt of the world financial system @ argentina is palpable. order a payment to argentine anything ? "risk flagged transaction". why ? o, well... because we dun want argentina to has moneyz. won't you reconsider ? |
| 08:04 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty boehnerheaded will be a thing. longer than boneheaded, but it's worth it. |
| 08:07 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/26/cash-and-credit-in-a-cryptocurrency-economy-part-2/ |
| 08:10 |
pankkake |
so, argentina defaults? |
| 08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
no |
| 08:11 |
mircea_popescu |
it just doesn't pay. |
| 08:11 |
mircea_popescu |
justusranvier http://i.imgur.com/X85yxzk.jpg << i submit this to you. what's it look like, from a purely visual perspective ? |
| 08:11 |
mircea_popescu |
to me it looks like a bloody spamsite. |
| 08:12 |
pankkake |
what's the difference? |
| 08:12 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake well that's the joke lol |
| 08:13 |
pankkake |
right; so my question here was more rhetorical: what next, since they won't be able to borrow anytime soon? |
| 08:14 |
pankkake |
of course, I remember the early "greece should default" voices and they were right |
| 08:14 |
mircea_popescu |
they will, and they are. just, not from the western block. |
| 08:14 |
pankkake |
weird |
| 08:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, Argentina buys some F.MPIF and backs their currency with that |
| 08:14 |
mircea_popescu |
what's mpif, 400 btc or so ? |
| 08:14 |
pankkake |
oh, that's why canada closed just-dice in retaliation |
| 08:14 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 08:14 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0WE0STH.txt ) |
| 08:14 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 4 |
| 08:14 |
mircea_popescu |
bitrisk! the game of international intrigue |
| 08:15 |
Naphex |
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWfJiVzKXU - I think it turned out alrighty :) |
| 08:15 |
assbot |
Introducere BTCXchange.ro - YouTube |
| 08:15 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, what's next. real estate shock and possibly another currency |
| 08:16 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex 4 views, how could it go wrong :D |
| 08:16 |
Naphex |
mircea_popescu: haha, i ment the content. just uploaded it |
| 08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
guy has me watching ads nao. |
| 08:17 |
Naphex |
might as well :) |
| 08:17 |
Naphex |
a pretty boring day |
| 08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
Naphex a ok. so what's this for ? tv doesn't take 143 second clips now does it ? |
| 08:17 |
Naphex |
mircea_popescu: nah, TV will have something different |
| 08:19 |
Naphex |
also need some better voiceover for tv |
| 08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah the woman sounds like she's had a lot of fun in her youth. |
| 08:22 |
Naphex |
as well multi-currency is in testing, its gonna go live sometime next week. |
| 08:22 |
Naphex |
straight with EUR and USD support |
| 08:22 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/482068187819696128 |
| 08:22 |
assbot |
The scary thing, I more inclined to believe this than the louder mining manufacterers are getting their acts together http://t.co/rjLcP6YjPO |
| 08:22 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty cool |
| 08:22 |
pankkake |
same bank for both? |
| 08:23 |
Naphex |
pankkake: yep |
| 08:23 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo your grammer! |
| 08:23 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: 140 characters... |
| 08:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27404 @ 0.00082225 = 22.5329 BTC [-] {2} |
| 08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
o right |
| 08:24 |
pankkake |
indeed apparently, the less a manufacturer advertises the more it delivers |
| 08:25 |
BingoBoingo |
am was a casulty of twatter's tyranny |
| 08:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+moiety> i withdrew via wire transfer. its £91 short /// I've heard some places are taking taxes out automatically without saying so, is the 91 equivalent to some income tax rate or such? |
| 08:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+bloctoc> I haven't seen anyone boasting about how much money their ATM is making. /// I've seen some data from Robocoin users that do quite well - paid off their machines in 1-3mos |
| 08:26 |
mircea_popescu |
<pankkake> indeed apparently, the less a manufacturer advertises the more it delivers <<< not just in mining. |
| 08:27 |
mircea_popescu |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Jaundice_in_newborn.jpg << needs caption ? |
| 08:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0477 = 0.954 BTC [+] |
| 08:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+punkman> good, Marissa's bet needs some drama /// lol this is how news looks when you piss of an advertiser |
| 08:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+mircea_popescu> to me it looks like a bloody spamsite. /// or at least made by amateurs |
| 08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2009/website-uri-ce-n-au-nici-o-vina/ |
| 08:34 |
assbot |
Website-uri ce n-au nici o vina. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 08:34 |
mircea_popescu |
pic is kinda self-explainatory |
| 08:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.0477 = 2.3373 BTC [+] |
| 08:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+mircea_popescu> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Jaundice_in_newborn.jpg << needs caption ? /// tits or gtfo |
| 08:36 |
mircea_popescu |
nah kid is more like suspicious. |
| 08:37 |
pankkake |
tried to translate a comment. "deci iti faci toti trollarii numai din ciocolata? :)" => "So you do all trollarii only chocolate? :)" |
| 08:37 |
pankkake |
alternative is "So you do all trollarii only Business cards? :)" |
| 08:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
this Mayer article just brings to light how consistently useless CNET is |
| 08:38 |
Naphex |
pankkake: romanian has a way of carrying meaning into sentences that will prolly never translate :) |
| 08:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
sucks that she;s the first CEO that was ever late to a function |
| 08:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Has CNET ever been useful for anything other than discovering which flip phone can maintain contact with a tower? |
| 08:38 |
Naphex |
pankkake: "So you build all your trolls only of chocolate?" :) |
| 08:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
"CNET has contacted Yahoo for comment. "lolz |
| 08:39 |
pankkake |
oh. so trollarii really means troll (that's why I tried to translate) :) |
| 08:39 |
Naphex |
yeah, troll's slanged |
| 08:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
twitter has contacted reddit's instagram for comments |
| 08:40 |
pankkake |
I wonder if community manager is ever a real job. I've only seen interns do it |
| 08:40 |
mircea_popescu |
troll in english taken as is by romanian (because romanian considers all languages merely badly spoken, more retarded cases of using romanian) and then flexion applied |
| 08:40 |
mircea_popescu |
trollerii : plural, masculine noun of to troll |
| 08:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
the comments are even worse |
| 08:41 |
pankkake |
gendered trolls? awesome |
| 08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
aye. |
| 08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
troalele would be a bunch of she-trolls. |
| 08:41 |
punkman |
it's trollari in greek too |
| 08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
that's gypsy and verbal. |
| 08:41 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google polari |
| 08:41 |
gribble |
Polari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari>; aGLIFF Film Festival: aGLIFF Festival | aGLIFF - Polari: <http://agliff.org/>; Polari - British gay slang - Chris-d.net: <http://chris-d.net/polari/> |
| 08:43 |
mircea_popescu |
but yeah, you can have a whole language out of applying romanian grammar to english lexemes |
| 08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
dar da, poti haza o whoala limba din aplicarea grammarei romane pe lexeme englezesti. |
| 08:44 |
mircea_popescu |
it's even shorter, definitely lulzier |
| 08:46 |
mircea_popescu |
<pankkake> I wonder if community manager is ever a real job. I've only seen interns do it << it's generally what you hire slaves under training collars to do as their first thing. |
| 08:46 |
pankkake |
intern, slave, what's the difference? :) |
| 08:47 |
mircea_popescu |
slave gets laid. |
| 08:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00082018 = 25.3436 BTC [-] {3} |
| 08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud training collar |
| 08:48 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=traing%20collar | ... Training Day · Training Day'd · Training Day-ed · training film · Training for the Olympics · training heels · Training Issue · Training it ... traing collar isn't defined. |
| 08:48 |
mircea_popescu |
lol such innocence. |
| 08:48 |
pankkake |
that's not really slang |
| 08:49 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, it is. |
| 08:50 |
pankkake |
great, France just approved a law where books are more expensive if bought online |
| 08:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Technical jargon |
| 08:52 |
pankkake |
because how dare you buy your books outside of crappy stores with no choice |
| 08:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
fee market |
| 08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i find it very amusing that france, one of the most socialist places in the history of the world, |
| 08:52 |
pankkake |
not that it will change in any way how I shop. more money for amazon in the end… lol |
| 08:52 |
mircea_popescu |
is actually also one of the most rabidly conservative. |
| 08:53 |
pankkake |
that's what I tell my fellow Frenchmen. the right is fairly popular, but also fairly socialist |
| 08:53 |
pankkake |
and the French are clearly afraid of everything |
| 08:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it's almost as if they regret 1984 isn't a thing. either as depicted in fiction or as enacted by the soviets, they want the dull gray concrete damn it |
| 08:54 |
pankkake |
protect us from Anglo-Saxon culture, homosexuals and the free market, etc. |
| 08:55 |
pankkake |
and immigrants, how could I forget |
| 08:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
"PAMM technology allows a trader to open a "Slave" Account and follow a trading strategy of another professional and experienced bitcoin trader (Master)." "Using PAMM Account rating, charts and feedback from other traders you can easily tackle the tough task of selecting a successful and professional Master to follow." ~BTC-e |
| 08:55 |
pankkake |
(despite the majority of immigrants being white people from the EU) |
| 08:56 |
pankkake |
ThickAsThieves: OMG really? I love it |
| 08:56 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves "how to select a losing strategy out of an array of moves made by people who opveral made money" |
| 08:56 |
pankkake |
but they used Slave and Master |
| 08:56 |
pankkake |
maybe they code in Django and are upset |
| 08:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 08:57 |
Azelphur |
oh god not the slave and master thing again |
| 08:57 |
* |
Azelphur facedesks |
| 08:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"at this company we have a strict insulting variablespace policy. all functions are to be named in reference of parts of female anatomy. all variables are to be named in reference of parts of male anatomy." |
| 08:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
So the manipulators on BTC-e dont even need to schedule pumps anymore |
| 08:57 |
mircea_popescu |
cunt(dick,balls,shithole); |
| 08:59 |
pankkake |
it's how most developers I know write test code |
| 08:59 |
Azelphur |
the annoying part is that master and slave have been around since the dawn of time, it's a technical term and you can't just go write random bullshit, this is what people don't seem to get |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
Azelphur i beg your pardon ? they have changed the world! |
| 09:00 |
Azelphur |
If you say "set the jumpers on that drive to replica" nobody has a fuckin clue what you are on about |
| 09:00 |
Azelphur |
mircea_popescu: haha, indeed *facedesk* |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
you just don't understand progress. |
| 09:00 |
Azelphur |
clearly ;) |
| 09:00 |
pankkake |
especially since it would be wrong to say replica then! |
| 09:00 |
Azelphur |
pankkake: exactly, haha |
| 09:00 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake maybe we should start doing this preemptively. |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
start calling stupid bitches "replicas". like you know, knockoff watches. |
| 09:01 |
Azelphur |
hahaha |
| 09:01 |
pankkake |
you already called developers fungible :( |
| 09:01 |
mircea_popescu |
works incredibly well you know ? schmuck comes in here to mouth off xmj style crap, "replica, please!" |
| 09:01 |
pankkake |
lol |
| 09:01 |
chetty |
hmm so what do we call stupid bastards ...there are more of them ya know |
| 09:02 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
| 09:02 |
mircea_popescu |
need something that doesn't end in a thus tickling my expectation it's a feminine romanian noun. |
| 09:03 |
* |
Azelphur just ordered a LG G Watch \o/ |
| 09:03 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2955z7/who_the_fuck_sent_108_btc_to_the_correct_horse/ < rofl |
| 09:03 |
assbot |
who the fuck sent 10.8 BTC to the "correct horse battery staple" brainwallet? : Bitcoin |
| 09:04 |
BingoBoingo |
chetty: You call the stupid dudes basic bitches |
| 09:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
replicunt |
| 09:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.moviefancentral.com/images/pictures/review74591/blade.jpg?1337623625 |
| 09:09 |
xmj |
i love mircea_popescu |
| 09:09 |
xmj |
he's really pleasant. |
| 09:09 |
xmj |
<3 |
| 09:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
Convicted Heavy Metal ‘Christian’ Singer Admits Being Atheist, Duped Fans to Sell Music |
| 09:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
(As I Lay Dying) |
| 09:13 |
BingoBoingo |
http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/25/bitbeat-why-bitcoins-scoring-goals-in-argentina/ |
| 09:13 |
assbot |
BitBeat: Why Bitcoin’s Scoring in Argentina - MoneyBeat - WSJ |
| 09:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.045 = 0.81 BTC [-] |
| 09:24 |
Duffer1 |
someone duped a zealot in order to sell something |
| 09:24 |
Duffer1 |
i'm shocked |
| 09:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 575 @ 0.0408204 = 23.4717 BTC [-] {16} |
| 09:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 135 @ 0.0401001 = 5.4135 BTC [-] {5} |
| 09:28 |
BigBitz |
!up up up! :) |
| 09:31 |
chetty |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/hospitals-soon-see-donuts-to-cigarette-charges-for-health.html |
| 09:31 |
assbot |
Hospitals Soon See Donuts-to-Cigarette Charges for Health - Bloomberg |
| 09:36 |
chetty |
not unexpected, but its still creepy |
| 09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ << request for arguments. |
| 09:41 |
assbot |
The problem of enforcement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 09:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/26/dogecoin-and-dystopia/ |
| 09:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.00081968 = 30.4101 BTC [-] |
| 09:44 |
mircea_popescu |
o look, pantera and silbert are actually making sane investments. |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wonder if i'm the guy who had the same trilema credits hash or whatever as someone else |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
my cookie didnt work for a few days, then it did, but now i only have 4 credits left, or maybe thats' just the guest credits |
| 09:46 |
pankkake |
it's the guest credits |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
and i need to reinitiate my cookie |
| 09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds like the guest. put your cookie back in. |
| 09:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
word |
| 09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
the collision was, some guy made an order, trilema came back "pay x". he didn't. months later, other guy made order, trilema said "pay x" same x. |
| 09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
has nothing to do with cookies or such |
| 09:59 |
moiety |
mew |
| 09:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
So to distill your post, are you saying that we give up freedom for i-cant-believe-its-not-freedom because it's easy/comfortable/safe and now you want some real-butter IRC because you tasted real-butter bitcoin? Or are you just pointing out that people typically think they are more free than they really are (or, at least, willing to acknowlege). |
| 10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
im pointing out that now it just became cheaper to have actual freedom |
| 10:00 |
mircea_popescu |
and so irrespective of anyone's wish, that's what we'll do. |
| 10:00 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/ |
| 10:01 |
moiety |
ThickAsThieves: I've heard some places are taking taxes out automatically without saying so, is the 91 equivalent to some income tax rate or such? << totally can't pinpoint exactly. in one breath they say it's their fee, in the next it's the banks but i've never had fees from my bank for incoming before. lesson learned. |
| 10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves to round out this point, do you know how justice worked in classical greece ? |
| 10:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe i used to, now i just know what i see in movies |
| 10:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
if freedom is cheaper, isn't it also less valuable? |
| 10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
well basically, anyone having a problem with someone could sue before the city. the arguments reduced to "the other party sucks". if the suit was successful the other party was banished (killed, originally, but then they softened). |
| 10:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
like maybe it's just incantbelieveitsnotfreedom, just in a bigger box |
| 10:03 |
mircea_popescu |
if not, the accuser was. |
| 10:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
so each had equal risk |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
now contrast this with the very invasive modern style, as epitomised by the us system : you're allowed out of prison as long as you promise to not x y z |
| 10:04 |
chetty |
the counter party risk is something we really need |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
there's this constant negotiation and apportioning of things. |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
the greeks didn't have it. it was an all or nothing affair. |
| 10:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
except it surely wasnt for everyone |
| 10:04 |
mircea_popescu |
either you sue this guy under the title that he's basiclaly human waste, |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
or else stfu |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas in english law you had a billion different causes for action. you can sue saying "this is a nice guy that has my cow" |
| 10:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
surely some bribed and pulled strings and framed people |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
surely. |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
famously plato tried to bribe the jury with 30 minae in socrates' case |
| 10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
this, in open court., |
| 10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
(amusingly, 30 minae is also what neaira's ass cost. |
| 10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway. it's my understanding that it's that apportioning that's the cause of evil. |
| 10:08 |
mircea_popescu |
just like an artisan is exactly NOT the guy who has a three ring binder telling him how to move and what shovel to use when, as per company policy |
| 10:08 |
mircea_popescu |
a free man is exactly NOT the guy who has to make a deal as to anything with anyone. none of this "to fly on the plane you must turn off your portable perfume dispenser" bs. |
| 10:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
while i dont disagree, it does kinda feeling we're just bitching that liars and scammers exist |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
how so ? |
| 10:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
well you are arguing for transparency, truth, efficiency, "realness" |
| 10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly. |
| 10:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
opposed to compromise, deception, obfuscation |
| 10:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun think so. |
| 10:13 |
chetty |
The court said Thursday that President Barack Obama exceeded his authority when he invoked the Constitution's provision on recess appointments to fill slots on the National Labor Relations Board in 2012. |
| 10:13 |
chetty |
ThickAsThieves, truth is cheaper |
| 10:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
not emotionally, in installments |
| 10:14 |
chetty |
ThickAsThieves, well it grows on you :) |
| 10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
where's that hobbes quote about how everyone's life is basically the result of surrender to the state, which may at its option dispose of it ? thus everyone's a slave ? |
| 10:15 |
mircea_popescu |
fundamentally, it used to be cheaper to surrender, now it's cheaper to not. fundamental change of paradigm |
| 10:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
some seek comfort, some seek truth |
| 10:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i kinda think it's all just smelling of roses |
| 10:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
observing the ebb and flow of necessity and invention |
| 10:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
order and chaos |
| 10:16 |
Vexual |
i ordered braised rabbit |
| 10:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
like your barbarian story |
| 10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
and how i ended it differently |
| 10:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
same shit |
| 10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't seem too related. |
| 10:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
zoomed out, it does to me |
| 10:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe it took the bullshit of our current state for someone to inspire to create Bitcoin, in turn, maybe you are the next Hitler |
| 10:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
and you'll inspire someone to dismantle you |
| 10:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
etc |
| 10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem with being hitler is that you can actually reach this point where you've read too much to be one. |
| 10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
in general it happens in highschool. |
| 10:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
i mean it in a more black swan kinda way i guess |
| 10:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
you wont be hitler |
| 10:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
youll be Popescu |
| 10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
even so |
| 10:22 |
chetty |
the cycles will go around, probably wont be MP but hitler will come again, someday |
| 10:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
right |
| 10:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe your vision for the world has horrible implications |
| 10:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
and someone needs to come along and fix it after youve gotten your way |
| 10:24 |
pankkake |
I see plenty of potential Hitlers |
| 10:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00081941 = 11.7585 BTC [-] {2} |
| 10:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
has the topic of this NK comedy movie been brought up here? |
| 10:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/north-korea-threatens-to-wage-war-on-usa-over-seth-rogen-and-james-francos-kim-jongun-assassination-film-9562426.html |
| 10:25 |
assbot |
North Korea threatens war on USA over 'gangster filmmaker' Seth Rogen and James Francos Kim Jong-un assassination movie - People - News - The Independent |
| 10:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
Government warns of 'merciless' retaliation if US doesn't ban the actors' comedy |
| 10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
hm, i dun has a vision. what am i, some sort of reformer ? |
| 10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm an intellectual, and therefore a critic. |
| 10:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
dont sell yourself short |
| 10:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
youre building something and you know it |
| 10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, tools to break things with. |
| 10:29 |
chetty |
long live the breakage |
| 10:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
wasnt S.WOL sposed to fire yesterday? |
| 10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
Vexual: is your scooter okay? <<< ahahaha such zing. |
| 10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves yeah i guess so huh! |
| 10:31 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c hows teh bitcoin side ? |
| 10:31 |
thestringpuller |
;;seen nubbins` |
| 10:31 |
gribble |
nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 19 hours, 9 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <nubbins`> http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif |
| 10:32 |
thestringpuller |
;;later tell nubbins` You got a hook up on printing cardboard cutouts? |
| 10:32 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake: wait you can buy F.DERP too? << yeah, next month |
| 10:33 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety sounds like you got charged a wire fee |
| 10:33 |
mike_c |
bitcoin side almost done. expect to ship it tmw. |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
what's that, two weeks ? |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
there you go tat. |
| 10:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
hmm |
| 10:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
i meant the ipo |
| 10:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
says 6/25 |
| 10:35 |
mircea_popescu |
well it listed on the 25th |
| 10:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
"War of Life will offer one block of 500`000 (five hundred thousand) shares for a nominal value of 0.00003 BTC each, for a total equity value of 15 BTC starting on June 25th, 2014." |
| 10:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
i see no block |
| 10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
well it's not done it before the 25th, so there we go :D |
| 10:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 10:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm still confused, but whatever |
| 10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i must be a native asshole the way i phrase these things, i had fully intended it be done yest, but look that it actually supports eventual reality. |
| 10:38 |
moiety |
D; was my passport money! another day, another lesson though right :] |
| 10:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
scamz |
| 10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the story is, was gonna do it yest but wanted to have bitcoin active so waiting a little for mike. |
| 10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i see no real downside in holding it back a day or w/e |
| 10:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
other than not doing what you said |
| 10:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
in writing |
| 10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
other than not doing what i had intended / you thought i said! what i actually said however, is starting on. |
| 10:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
... |
| 10:39 |
pankkake |
http://www.coindesk.com/anonibet-talks-bitcoin-foundation-membership-world-cup-contest/ " company decided to formally support the Bitcoin Foundation" |
| 10:39 |
assbot |
Anonibet Talks Bitcoin Foundation Membership, World Cup Contest |
| 10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves it's like, "tvs from 59.99". doesn't mean any tv in the shop is 60 bux |
| 10:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
cmon now |
| 10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
noh! |
| 10:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
dis nigga all coy |
| 10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake look at that lol. |
| 10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
if im supposed to be butthurt i'm not vessy boy. |
| 10:41 |
BingoBoingo |
;;lasers |
| 10:41 |
gribble |
┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* |
| 10:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
the difference with not firing the ipo when you said you would is i gotta spend more time watching the orderbook to get in, which i suppose could be your plan, letting bids swell |
| 10:42 |
chetty |
omg, MP got a date wrong, hang him |
| 10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
you can just put a bid in for your price neh ? |
| 10:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
and then a day later my price is below needed? |
| 10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
holy shit that thing's full. |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
hey mp, you have a stock exchange |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
just reminding you! |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i had no idea lol. |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, sorry everyone! the order shall fire at, lemme see here |
| 10:44 |
thestringpuller |
;;lasers |
| 10:44 |
gribble |
┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* |
| 10:49 |
mircea_popescu |
1403821800 aka GMT: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:30:00 GMT |
| 10:51 |
moiety |
picture of the day: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me1y3zAjfV1qm0kmzo1_500.jpg |
| 10:51 |
chetty |
non-bitcoin scams: Bloomberg reports that Chinas chief auditor discovered 94.4 billion yuan ($15.2 billion) of loans backed by falsified gold transactions |
| 10:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
thx mp |
| 10:54 |
mircea_popescu |
obviously there's no reason to distrust new york. |
| 10:54 |
mircea_popescu |
or how did that go |
| 10:54 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves ma pleasure rly. |
| 10:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
so now maybe a good time to buy gold |
| 10:56 |
pankkake |
;;bc,xau |
| 10:56 |
gribble |
1 XAU = 1315.500000000000 USD = 2.31598035246 BTC |
| 10:56 |
Duffer1 |
isn't there a bitbet it'll close at under 1k by the end of the year? |
| 10:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'll take that bet that it wont |
| 10:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
i was trying to chart BRK.B today because of the new bitbet, it's well-priced |
| 10:57 |
Duffer1 |
you probably wouldn't win very much :P |
| 10:57 |
mircea_popescu |
artifexd can []bot take a search and return the result from bitbet ? |
| 10:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
BRK.B shareprice just hit the top of a longterm channel, but it's a steep one so it could get to $135 still |
| 10:59 |
Duffer1 |
what do you think of tesla closing at 250+ ? |
| 11:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
pretty likely |
| 11:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
people are musk-wild right now |
| 11:02 |
Duffer1 |
it's not unfounded |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
a new batch of people discovered he has a solar co too, so that exploded upward too |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
longterm, sure |
| 11:02 |
pankkake |
is he the new steve jobs? |
| 11:02 |
Duffer1 |
steve was a twat |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
nah |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
he doesnt care about consumers like jobs |
| 11:02 |
pankkake |
lol |
| 11:02 |
pankkake |
care, as in fuck? |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
pretty much yeah |
| 11:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
i didnt mean care "for" that's for sure |
| 11:04 |
Duffer1 |
i like the nature of elons projects |
| 11:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
but similar in that he's doing what makes sense to him and fuck otherwise |
| 11:04 |
Duffer1 |
space and renewables |
| 11:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i think TSLA can be had at cheaper prices as all |
| 11:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
is all* |
| 11:05 |
Duffer1 |
i agree |
| 11:05 |
Duffer1 |
by the time i'm even aware of an offer the speculators have driven price beyond all reason |
| 11:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
just like altcoins |
| 11:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
| 11:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
and |
| 11:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
thats how they git ya! |
| 11:07 |
Duffer1 |
maxcoin lol... |
| 11:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
MaxCoin $ 810,048 $ 0.035170 23,032,368 MAX |
| 11:08 |
pankkake |
I got banned from /r/litecoin, and before that had posts stealth-deleted. they're bagholding so hard! |
| 11:09 |
Duffer1 |
800k market cap my bleeding arsehole |
| 11:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00082107 = 12.8908 BTC [+] |
| 11:09 |
pankkake |
it's the power of asshole pumping |
| 11:09 |
Duffer1 |
there's only 18.4 btc buys on mcxnow |
| 11:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
my guess is you can squeeze out about 10% of an altcoins market cap if you sell no faster than 10% of the time it's existed |
| 11:11 |
|
Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Gold <= 1000 USD in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/785/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.77957601 BTC. Current weight: 60,446. |
| 11:11 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
| 11:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
:) |
| 11:12 |
Duffer1 |
i'm not a gambler, but that one doesn't seem like a risk at all |
| 11:13 |
pankkake |
now I want to bet yes :p |
| 11:14 |
pankkake |
didn't gold go from 2000 to 1something some year ago? |
| 11:14 |
pankkake |
I unfortunately bought gold just before |
| 11:14 |
Apocalyptic |
It did |
| 11:15 |
Duffer1 |
ouch |
| 11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
it hit a little under 1200 in the past year |
| 11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think that was bottom |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 11:35 |
pankkake |
http://www.coindesk.com/government-sale-bitcoin-establishes-fungibility-precedent/ Regardless of the morality of pre-trial asset forfeiture, the sale via auction of approximately $17 million worth of bitcoin by the USMS will establish the first governmental precedent for bitcoin fungibility, which could become significant for future bitcoin-related cases involving ‘blacklisting’, or ‘tainted bitcoin’. |
| 11:35 |
assbot |
Government Sale of Bitcoin Establishes Fungibility Precedent |
| 11:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/06/26/bitcoin-bitstamp/ |
| 11:37 |
assbot |
The Bitcoin Economy's 'Backbone' Is Bitstamp, An Exchange Run By Two Young Slovenians - Forbes |
| 11:38 |
pankkake |
wait their lanyards say "fucking amazing" |
| 11:38 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 11:42 |
kakobrekla |
>“We’re the backbone of the entire Bitcoin industry,” says Kodrič, 25, who’s wearing a black t-shirt with “Zero Excuses” in fluorescent green capital letters. |
| 11:42 |
kakobrekla |
lmao |
| 11:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
kako why arent you in the picture? |
| 11:43 |
kakobrekla |
who is kako? |
| 11:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
some dude |
| 11:43 |
kakobrekla |
some schmuck |
| 11:47 |
Duffer1 |
good lord |
| 11:55 |
moiety |
he won't even allow his reflection to be snapped :P |
| 11:56 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/06/26/summary-26-may-25-june/ |
| 11:57 |
kakobrekla |
i see you are kept busy moiety - gg |
| 11:58 |
moiety |
thanks. i hope it's enough. i was trying to be as connected as possible over the move. |
| 12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79952895 BTC to 9`635 shares, 18677 satoshi per share |
| 12:01 |
kakobrekla |
thats prolly more phonecalls than i had in a year |
| 12:02 |
moiety |
lol me too normally XD |
| 12:16 |
thestringpuller |
http://dogeon.org/ |
| 12:16 |
assbot |
DSON - Doge Serialized Object Notation |
| 12:17 |
* |
moiety is becoming allergic to anything doge - can't click |
| 12:17 |
thestringpuller |
it may give you a seizure in sex weeks |
| 12:17 |
moiety |
bahahaha omg just took a drink, coffee everywhere |
| 12:29 |
benkay |
<mircea_popescu> it just doesn't pay. // how is this not a default? am i missing the sarcasm? |
| 12:29 |
benkay |
pf nvm okay |
| 12:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19494037 = 1.9494 BTC [+] {5} |
| 12:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04397947 = 1.0995 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 12:53 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/26/dogecoin-and-dystopia/ |
| 12:53 |
assbot |
DogeCoin and Dystopia | Bingo Blog |
| 12:56 |
pankkake |
thestringpuller: with the url, I was thinking "this may be a json like doge but that's such a silly thing why do I even think about that" |
| 12:56 |
pankkake |
I love it. it has a bunch of libs too |
| 13:06 |
punkman |
26-06-2014 Pending More YES than NO on this bet |
| 13:06 |
punkman |
lol |
| 13:07 |
kakobrekla |
has been tried on numerous occasions, never was or will be accepted |
| 13:08 |
moiety |
BingoBoingo: perfect |
| 13:08 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: You didn't watch the horror video did you? |
| 13:09 |
moiety |
i've banned myself from streaming but its only 35 so will do now |
| 13:10 |
moiety |
jesus christ is the dogers in lego form |
| 13:10 |
BingoBoingo |
I recommend against watching it if you enjoy your eyes and ears |
| 13:10 |
moiety |
<< already scarred |
| 13:11 |
moiety |
why the fuck have people been telling me this movie is good? |
| 13:12 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Because you run a dogecoin cam site on the side? |
| 13:12 |
BingoBoingo |
Or did you take that cam thing out |
| 13:15 |
BingoBoingo |
%diff |
| 13:15 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 395074.76 in 1754 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -22.76 |
| 13:16 |
moiety |
nah it's still there. I had to make them a dedicated room for cam spam. |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
i watched half of the lego movie in a flight |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's kids stuff |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
the everything is awesome song is pretty awesome tho |
| 13:17 |
moiety |
half? did you try to exit the plane half way? |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
of course |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
no, i ran out of other things i felt like doing |
| 13:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
so picked up the movie halfway in |
| 13:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
it was one of those shitty systems where you cant initiate a movie from anytime you want |
| 13:18 |
moiety |
do you really wish you had seen it form the start? 35 seconds was enough for me to want to peel my own skin off |
| 13:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
no i have no desire to go back and see what i missed |
| 13:19 |
BingoBoingo |
It really is the worst socialist propoganda I've been exposed to. |
| 13:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
the only thing worth taking from the movie is that song |
| 13:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz it's so ridiculous that i like it |
| 13:19 |
moiety |
i can now thank BB for two of the most awful things i have ever seen and cannot unsee |
| 13:19 |
BingoBoingo |
$36 coffee? |
| 13:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
the song is sorta like AMAZING COMPANY |
| 13:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
EVERYTHING IS AWESOME! |
| 13:27 |
|
Bet created: "Bank of England to raise Bank Rate before February" http://bitbet.us/bet/968/ |
| 13:28 |
moiety |
jesus they can't be helped: "i need an online wallet" "don't use an online wallet, use dropbox!" *facedesk* |
| 13:28 |
pankkake |
from 11 to 0.5, lol |
| 13:29 |
moiety |
BingoBoingo: first sharpie bum boy, now lego scarring, don't make it a hattrick please. i value my sanity. |
| 13:30 |
pankkake |
moiety: encrypted wallet.dat on dropbox is certainly more secure - actually I can't find any drawback in terms of security or privacy |
| 13:30 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 13:30 |
pankkake |
not that I would recommend it |
| 13:30 |
BingoBoingo |
pankkake: Well other than the frequent dropbox security breaches let everyone know you have a wallet.dat |
| 13:30 |
moiety |
just no to dropbox out of principle |
| 13:31 |
BingoBoingo |
OMG the better alternative to CoinBase died http://valleywag.gawker.com/the-laundry-quarters-startup-is-dead-1596481798/+laceydonohue |
| 13:31 |
assbot |
The Laundry Quarters Delivery Startup Is Dead (And in Hell?) |
| 13:31 |
pankkake |
oh, I hate dropbox, I consider that everything you put there is public |
| 13:31 |
moiety |
dropbox: so insecure we wrote a paper to prove it |
| 13:32 |
pankkake |
BingoBoingo: at least they decided to end it early |
| 13:32 |
BingoBoingo |
The comments are the best "I admire their "give up" attitude." "Not enoug people give up" |
| 13:33 |
BingoBoingo |
!up MobGod |
| 13:34 |
pankkake |
BingoBoingo: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2014/02/fail-faster.html (I thought I linked this here before, but perhaps only in a blog comment) |
| 13:34 |
assbot |
Overcoming Bias : Fail Faster |
| 13:35 |
punkman |
;;buy 10000 ATC @ 0.02 BTC |
| 13:35 |
gribble |
Order id 20898 created. |
| 13:37 |
pankkake |
that 2 BTC sports bet rule is harsh |
| 13:38 |
BingoBoingo |
%book |
| 13:38 |
atcbot |
65k@280 30k@279 50k@278 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 |
| 13:38 |
BingoBoingo |
But Bitbet had to stop the bleeding |
| 13:40 |
pankkake |
understandable, just saying there might be less expensive solutions |
| 13:40 |
pankkake |
I don't bet on sports, I would bet on starcraft but I ended up being the only one (and losing) |
| 13:42 |
BingoBoingo |
I don't think any of the line books that tried e-stuff were able to keep it up |
| 13:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+pankkake> I don't bet on sports, I would bet on starcraft but I ended up being the only one (and losing) /// it's kinda surprising how little Bitcoin has penatrated the gamer community |
| 13:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
penetrated* |
| 13:45 |
pankkake |
perhaps because gamers seldom penetrate (ha ha!) |
| 13:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'd totally bet on single Dota 2 games |
| 13:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
that i could play in with friends |
| 13:45 |
thestringpuller |
nerds |
| 13:45 |
pankkake |
but anyway, gamers were mining quite early, but perhaps they sold early too |
| 13:45 |
jborkl |
Hi, got your message thestringpuller |
| 13:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
gamers/programmers, not gamers/woot customers |
| 13:46 |
pankkake |
but yeah I don't get it |
| 13:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
twitch.com taking bitcoin might help |
| 13:46 |
jborkl |
I think in Korea Starcraft betting was popular |
| 13:47 |
ThickAsThieves |
or Steam using bitcoin |
| 13:47 |
pankkake |
I don't use steam but I often see gift codes for sale in btc |
| 13:49 |
jborkl |
thestringpuller : Thank you also |
| 13:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/26/5845930/google-turns-on-its-crazy-modular-phone-in-public-for-the-first-time |
| 13:49 |
assbot |
Google turns on its crazy modular phone in public for the first time | The Verge |
| 13:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's like a PC, but inside out! |
| 13:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
as the GoPro IPO was today |
| 13:52 |
pankkake |
I'm not sure the concept will ever be practical but I'd really like it. that's why I like full grown PCs |
| 13:52 |
pankkake |
I don't have to find the best compromise, I just have the best |
| 13:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
The stock was priced near the top of its range at $24 a share and quickly rose to $30 in early trading, meaning the company is worth a little more than $3 billion. |
| 13:54 |
pankkake |
only 3 instagrams |
| 14:00 |
FabianB |
$traded |
| 14:00 |
empyex |
FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE |
| 14:05 |
moiety |
i wish steam would accept btc |
| 14:05 |
moiety |
i do like steam, must admit |
| 14:07 |
kakobrekla |
hahahah |
| 14:07 |
kakobrekla |
>I'm not unable. I'm unwilling. There is a difference. I won't bother you with details of licenses and fiduciary duties, blah, blah, blah... Instead I will just say that any recommendation I gave could be viewed as a conflict of interest due to my affiliation with something that could be irrationally misconstrued as a security. Therefore, I am not willing to give you a recommendation on a specific investment, only to educate you so th |
| 14:07 |
kakobrekla |
may be better prepared to choose one for yourself. |
| 14:07 |
kakobrekla |
gold. |
| 14:07 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/part-1-bitcoin-mining-network-difficulty/ |
| 14:07 |
kakobrekla |
>due to my affiliation with something that could be irrationally misconstrued as a security < got that shit right. |
| 14:08 |
mike_c |
you arguing on tardtalk again? |
| 14:08 |
kakobrekla |
no was banned 3 times, jus readin |
| 14:09 |
kakobrekla |
best place for humor |
| 14:09 |
mike_c |
that did sound funny. link? |
| 14:09 |
kakobrekla |
hm lemme try find |
| 14:10 |
kakobrekla |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665403.msg7518740#msg7518740 |
| 14:10 |
assbot |
Why Do You Invest? |
| 14:10 |
kakobrekla |
thar |
| 14:10 |
BingoBoingo |
Wonder when this sort of scam is finding bitcoin? http://carbondaletimes.com/051614habitat |
| 14:10 |
assbot |
Jury indicts Campus Habitat owner | Carbondale Times |
| 14:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Dude buys thing, then buys thing again from himself |
| 14:11 |
mike_c |
hah. that is humor. "At first I started investing in these things because I thought I was actually helping the bitcoin ecosystem. It turns out I've been helping the twat-waffles of the bitcoin ecosystem." |
| 14:12 |
kakobrekla |
:) |
| 14:12 |
mike_c |
i don't know what a twat-waffle is, but he sounds right to me. |
| 14:12 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
| 14:15 |
mike_c |
!t h smg |
| 14:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: 0.00004912 / 4.92E-5 / 0.00005000 (1100 shares, 0.05412084 BTC), 7D: 0.00004912 / 4.931E-5 / 0.00005016 (1340 shares, 0.06607088 BTC), 30D: 0.00004000 / 5.6E-5 / 0.00007570 (15620 shares, 0.87466372 BTC) |
| 14:15 |
mike_c |
;;calc 0.00004912 / 0.000091 |
| 14:15 |
gribble |
0.53978021978 |
| 14:15 |
pankkake |
http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinStocks/comments/29313f/why_do_you_invest/ for more lulz. I mean, there's a clear objective demonstration that investing on havelock is a pretty sure loss, and they… ignore it |
| 14:15 |
assbot |
Why Do You Invest? : BitcoinStocks |
| 14:16 |
mike_c |
havelock share of s.mg is worth 54% of a mpex share of s.mg. |
| 14:16 |
thestringpuller |
LOL |
| 14:16 |
assbot |
Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0P6WE32.txt ) |
| 14:16 |
thestringpuller |
!bash 5 |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04397982 = 0.8796 BTC [+] |
| 14:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00082511 = 6.0233 BTC [+] |
| 14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/if-youre-one-of-the-numerous-buenos-aires-printing-shops-ill-be-harassing-over-the-day/ << i got my cards. |
| 14:20 |
assbot |
If you’re one of the numerous Buenos Aires printing shops I’ll be harassing over the day pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 14:21 |
mike_c |
pic? |
| 14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
ya sec adding a detailed one |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
there we go |
| 14:23 |
punkman |
no pink? |
| 14:23 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;ident mircea_popescu |
| 14:23 |
gribble |
Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None |
| 14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
sadly. |
| 14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
i don;t think they have cunts in this cuntry. |
| 14:23 |
Mats_cd03 |
a makes sense now |
| 14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
http://itraveleasy.com/bitcoins-most-controversial-startup/ < who;s this ? |
| 14:24 |
assbot |
Bitcoin’s Most Controversial Startup | I Travel Easy |
| 14:26 |
mike_c |
you know what makes an article easier to read? italicizing the entire thing. |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
that and comic m |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
s |
| 14:29 |
chetty |
that is like the like worst article evea |
| 14:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
pff ya lambchop just pretending xbond didnt exist |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves: i think that was bottom < something like that |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves what was total volume on it ? |
| 14:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
xbond? |
| 14:32 |
pankkake |
ThickAsThieves: PMed him. we'll see |
| 14:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
2000btc sold i think |
| 14:32 |
pankkake |
that article looks like a spambot creation |
| 14:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'd have to look it up, my memory is shit |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla: >“We’re the backbone of the entire Bitcoin industry,” says Kodrič, 25, who’s wearing a black t-shirt with “Zero Excuses” in fluorescent green capital letters. <<< ahahaha epic |
| 14:33 |
punkman |
shouldn't that say "CANS + STRING" |
| 14:33 |
punkman |
maybe another tshirt for nubbins to print |
| 14:33 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/06/26/summary-26-may-25-june/ << pretty cool. |
| 14:33 |
assbot |
Summary 26 May-25 June | #Bitcoin-Assets Reception |
| 14:33 |
BingoBoingo |
#BITCOIN-ASSETS: All Cans, No String |
| 14:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
a set of shirts, where one shirt has a can and half a string, and the other shirt has the other can |
| 14:34 |
moiety |
:D sorry it was such a long time span |
| 14:35 |
pankkake |
http://cdn.funnie.st/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Thongs-6.jpg <= a can and a string, #bitcoin-assets style |
| 14:35 |
mike_c |
heh. or one can on front, one on back, string wraps around your side. |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay just ftr i based your sarcasm :D |
| 14:35 |
moiety |
i wouldve like nubbins` to print a top with #bitcoin lower back and then wee shorts with -assets on the arse |
| 14:35 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c ah, my sides. |
| 14:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
<+BingoBoingo> #BITCOIN-ASSETS: All Cans, No String /// sounds like a slogan for strip joint |
| 14:36 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be all jugs no strings |
| 14:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
hilarious, now media says SELL! "Barclays has given Netflix an Underweight rating, with a price target of $390, which is around 11% lower than its current stock price." |
| 14:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
We'd like to make at least 11% on this trade, thank you kind public. |
| 14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake: moiety: encrypted wallet.dat on dropbox is certainly more secure - actually I can't find any drawback in terms of security or privacy << stock "encrypted" wallet leaks a lot of metadata. |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
gpg the file, then ok. |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves fwiw i don't see the case for netflix. what are they going to do ? |
| 14:38 |
moiety |
gpg is the only encryption for me :D |
| 14:38 |
pankkake |
compared to online wallet, all the same - you're leaking to the online wallet |
| 14:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
they arew going to go down to 390 |
| 14:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
:) |
| 14:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
hopefully, cuz i shorted at 444.44 |
| 14:39 |
mike_c |
netflix is doing good original content. it's a new HBO. |
| 14:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
netflix will do fine |
| 14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
"Young male founders must all be drinking the same Soylent. Either that or they have a hard time
" USING THE NOGGIN ? |
| 14:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
they justw wont grow as quickly as market wants |
| 14:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
so stock will go in waves |
| 14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c you know what tried that ? the original company hiring the pierce muppet as a male twink escort. |
| 14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
it left one of the largest craters in dotcom history. |
| 14:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
it wont be long before TV is computer and channels are websites, etc, just as netflix gains ground, theyll gain competition from all over |
| 14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
!up cuwirebeard |
| 14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves but not money. |
| 14:41 |
mircea_popescu |
you know how people used to make a living writing books ? and you know how it wasn't long before all books were blogs and whatnot ? |
| 14:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
i think they can surive and even grow in the long term, i just wouldnt invest in them long term |
| 14:42 |
chetty |
*GERMANY ENDING VERIZON CONTRACT, CITING NSA: AP |
| 14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
verizon emailed me saying they are sad i'm gone today, and that theyve change |
| 14:43 |
Duffer1 |
imo they'll need to do a lot better than what they currently offer |
| 14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
d |
| 14:43 |
Duffer1 |
what do you have now? |
| 14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont have a cell |
| 14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i did say the case tho. i mean, grow, sure, fine. doing what ? |
| 14:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
i had their mifi |
| 14:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10549 @ 0.00082432 = 8.6958 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:44 |
Duffer1 |
ah thought you meant broadband |
| 14:44 |
cuwirebeard |
And just as govts burn(ed) books theyll burn...internets! |
| 14:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
curation of original content, convenience -- the new equivalent of a good TV channel |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
what govt burned book s? |
| 14:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves this i wish to see |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
Subject: Your FED TAX payment (ID:03SIRS815097882) was Rejected |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
From: "TAX@irs.gov" <tax@irs.gov> |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
sucks to be me i guess |
| 14:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 14:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
happens to the best of us |
| 14:45 |
mike_c |
i got a paper version of that scam recently |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
restart a client server ? |
| 14:45 |
mircea_popescu |
why not a plantanimal |
| 14:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
youll pull through it |
| 14:46 |
mike_c |
actually got me for a second. |
| 14:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
hax! |
| 14:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Was that it? |
| 14:53 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 566.3, vol: 5331.23512684 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 568.297, vol: 3770.40863 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 573.05, vol: 6526.95326517 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 583.53, vol: 62.06868508 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 577.718145, vol: 2677.55970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 574.42282, vol: 7.83281339 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 569.53665, vol: 40.24475231 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) |
| 14:54 |
BingoBoingo |
;;more |
| 14:54 |
gribble |
570.829819679 |
| 14:54 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake: understandable, just saying there might be less expensive solutions << perhjaps, but you gotta understand, there's no game in the world that's cheaper than 1k. |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
just busing the competitors in and that's the budget. |
| 14:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
how much do you guys think the SR coins will auction for? |
| 14:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves: that i could play in with friends << private bet is your friend. |
| 14:55 |
BingoBoingo |
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Silbert bid above market |
| 14:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
problem is no one i know in dota uses bitcoin, and oddly a couple weeks ago they just all stopped signing on |
| 14:56 |
mircea_popescu |
depends who buys it. if any non alligned buyer actually makes a serious offer, upwards of 25mn. if nobody gets involved and the original plan can proceed, 15mn or so. |
| 14:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
but if it were ubiquitous in the game, itd get used |
| 14:57 |
mod6 |
%ob |
| 14:57 |
atcbot |
65k@280 30k@279 50k@278 | 972k@199 750k@175 216k@160 |
| 14:57 |
benkay |
<mircea_popescu> benkay just ftr i based your sarcasm :D // pardon? |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
bashed* |
| 14:58 |
benkay |
ah wd ty |
| 14:58 |
benkay |
my goal is to have at least 5 in the top-of-all-time |
| 14:58 |
benkay |
bash kinda has silly dynamics what with winner-taking-all |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 14:59 |
mike_c |
hmph. weight fail. http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ |
| 14:59 |
assbot |
BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closing in 5 hours 39 seconds | weight: 2`345 (100`000 to 1) |
| 14:59 |
mike_c |
no reason to go to 1 on that. should have been 80k, 90k. |
| 15:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wanted the price to be murky |
| 15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
At the risk of stemming the stimulating debate revolving around OGNasty's smartiferous proposition "losing money on various bitcoin investings is teh road to riches," |
| 15:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
bet early! |
| 15:00 |
pankkake |
he added XBOND https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=666993.0 |
| 15:00 |
assbot |
Havelock Securities At A Glance: The SRS BZNZ Edition |
| 15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
smartiferous should totally be a thing. the ooze of ferrous craneus |
| 15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.flamewarriorsguide.com/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm |
| 15:01 |
assbot |
Ferrous Cranus |
| 15:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
it is happening tomorrow after all, and who knows what info will leak |
| 15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Lycerion |
| 15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
eh get out ?! |
| 15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
!up |
| 15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
!up mircea_popescu |
| 15:02 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/06/17/bitpagos-raises-600000-seed-round-to-boost-bitcoin-use-in-south-america/?KEYWORDS=bitpagos another for the DERP |
| 15:02 |
assbot |
BitPagos Raises $600,000 Seed Round to Boost Bitcoin Use in South America - Venture Capital Dispatch - WSJ |
| 15:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
no derpy enough |
| 15:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
not |
| 15:02 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay iitl you know ? |
| 15:02 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea_popescu, you must !up via pm prolly |
| 15:03 |
mircea_popescu |
NO! I SHALL SAY UP IN HERE AGAIN unless assbot appeases me |
| 15:03 |
benkay |
ah |
| 15:03 |
benkay |
!down mircea_popescu |
| 15:03 |
benkay |
bwahahahahahahah |
| 15:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 15:03 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/31RAWPB.txt ) |
| 15:03 |
benkay |
!b 4 |
| 15:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
i photobombed ur bash |
| 15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
lake titicaca... ole titicaca... |
| 15:04 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I0Hee533Iw |
| 15:04 |
assbot |
Animaniacs - Lake Titicaca - YouTube |
| 15:04 |
kakobrekla |
!up Lycerion |
| 15:08 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c havelock share of s.mg is worth 54% of a mpex share of s.mg. << nuts huh |
| 15:09 |
mike_c |
probably overvalues havelock share. |
| 15:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Who even does that PT? |
| 15:09 |
mircea_popescu |
just cp discount !? |
| 15:10 |
mike_c |
it's not even a share of s.mg. it's a share of a unit of havelol's smg fund. but the discount is counterparty, plus the difference of havelock investor opinion vs. mpex investor opinion (or IQ). |
| 15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
drastic. |
| 15:11 |
mircea_popescu |
so basically poor investor can lose 50% ayear even with an achor ? |
| 15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
is this one of those "made roi hand over fist" ognasty situations ? |
| 15:12 |
mike_c |
well, they made money on a fiat basis :D |
| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.infobae.com/2014/06/26/1576179-argentina-pago-el-vencimiento-los-bonos-reestructurados |
| 15:13 |
assbot |
Argentina pag el vencimiento de los bonos reestructurados | Axel Kicillof, Litigio con los holdouts - Infobae |
| 15:13 |
mircea_popescu |
argentina paid its conversion debt and is going to stiff the vulture funds. |
| 15:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00082355 = 21.6594 BTC [-] |
| 15:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Peronism, The Falkland Islands, Financial Shennanigans, Argentina is basically the Eric Cartman of International Intrigue |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
not so far off. |
| 15:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [D.BPAY] 65 @ 0.23999999 = 15.6 BTC |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 15:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
"I was an idiot and assumed that the "random" button on brainwallet.org was truly random, but it clearly is not. My coins were taken by someone who is clearly smarter than myself and this is completely my fault by creating Bitcoin addresses on a website that I assumed was safe. There's a $20k life lesson that I'll never forget, that's for sure. Also, to elaborate, I did not use the |
| 15:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
passphrase functionality on brainwallet.org, I used the random button to create the addresses." |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30750 @ 0.00082541 = 25.3814 BTC [+] {3} |
| 15:56 |
BingoBoingo |
%d |
| 15:56 |
atcbot |
[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 401594.40 in 1735 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -21.49 |
| 15:56 |
BingoBoingo |
%fu |
| 16:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess the crash is imminent, there-is-no-bubble propaganda: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/14/why-the-scary-1929-chart-is-a-bunch-of-nonsense/ |
| 16:01 |
assbot |
Why the 1929 Chart Is a Bunch of Nonsense - MoneyBeat - WSJ |
| 16:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
i love how their main argument is that the % is much less severe than portrayed, like everything would be daisies if the market dropped 40% or whatever |
| 16:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
then, proof! http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/06/26/time-to-officially-stick-a-fork-in-that-1929-chart/ |
| 16:05 |
assbot |
Time to Officially Stick a Fork in That 1929 Chart - MoneyBeat - WSJ |
| 16:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
(note they used same scale they said was no good before) |
| 16:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
theyve also time-shifted the red line forward to look further laong |
| 16:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
(and upward) |
| 16:11 |
nubbins` |
re: can/strings |
| 16:11 |
nubbins` |
i like |
| 16:11 |
nubbins` |
esp. the wrapping around the side |
| 16:12 |
FabianB |
;;bc,stats |
| 16:12 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 307972 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 475 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 21 hours, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16587491540.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 23.21183 |
| 16:13 |
nubbins` |
;;later tell thestringpuller you mean like life-size cardboard cutouts? the kind you'd find at a Lord of the Rings premiere? |
| 16:13 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 16:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18731 @ 0.0008256 = 15.4643 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:15 |
thestringpuller |
nubbins`: yea |
| 16:16 |
thestringpuller |
doesn't have to be full sized |
| 16:16 |
thestringpuller |
maybe half |
| 16:16 |
nubbins` |
tough to ship, i always thought they got those things made locally |
| 16:16 |
thestringpuller |
interesting |
| 16:16 |
thestringpuller |
can't you ship in normal boxes? |
| 16:16 |
nubbins` |
yeah, i suppose |
| 16:17 |
nubbins` |
you thinking full-color prints? |
| 16:19 |
thestringpuller |
possibly |
| 16:19 |
thestringpuller |
well that's ideal |
| 16:19 |
thestringpuller |
but depends on cost |
| 16:22 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.cracked.com/article_21301_6-mysterious-deaths-thatll-make-you-believe-in-conspiracies.html |
| 16:22 |
assbot |
6 Mysterious Deaths That'll Make You Believe in Conspiracies | Cracked.com |
| 16:25 |
pankkake |
author of the article kills himself, 6 bullets in the head |
| 16:26 |
BingoBoingo |
If only |
| 16:31 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 49(Y):51(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.40421879 BTC. Current weight: 44,592. |
| 16:35 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 19(Y):81(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.87602464 BTC. Current weight: 64,370. |
| 16:38 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Financial-Services-Roundtable-Alexander-letter.pdf |
| 16:43 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "FIFA World Cup 2014 total goals over 158" http://bitbet.us/bet/898/ Odds: 64(Y):36(N) by coin, 62(Y):38(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.40421879 BTC. Current weight: 44,563. |
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| 16:58 |
punkman |
/join #bitcoin-otc |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 17:25 |
benkay |
butts |
| 17:25 |
benkay |
$bait |
| 17:27 |
assbot |
ninjashogun +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves nice lol. "it is time, once and for all" too. |
| 17:32 |
kakobrekla |
!up ninjashogun |
| 17:33 |
ninjashogun |
thanks kakobrekla. I don't remember exactly who I spoke to in here before, if we've spoken and you trust me enough for voice you can give me whatever WoT rating with assbot is necessary and justified based on our interaction for me to type Up. |
| 17:33 |
ninjashogun |
based on our interaction so far* |
| 17:34 |
ninjashogun |
I just registered on WoT today, because I've started discussing trades elsewhere. I haven't traded on anyone from here before, though I've connected with real-world people (real identities). |
| 17:35 |
benkay |
!down kakobrekla |
| 17:36 |
kakobrekla |
hey at least some words came out of this one |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i like how the original title included "scary" but then editors took it out |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
"I have been in this business for over 43 years, yet I do not ever recall getting as slammed with the same email as many times as I have about" |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah dude totally, recall the email slamming of 1959 ? |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
that was some numerous email slamming back then. |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
"Heres a look at the chart comparing point moves and percentage moves. On a percentage basis, this spooky comparison doesnt look quite so frightful." |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ajhajajaa ok good stuff. |
| 17:40 |
ninjashogun |
lol |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
" Daniel Wiener, chief executive at Adviser Investments in Newton, Mass., blamed the Internet" |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
too good stuff. |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
"From Mr. Brown: |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
The reason why this bothers me is twofold first, it frightens investors into making poor decisions big decisions that will have a major impact on their mental health and financial condition well into the future. Second, the more we see this kind of pornography, the more likely it is to have an impact on crowd psychology and become a self-fulfilling prophecy. " |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly. i blame asciilifeform. he wrecked the us economy. |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
pls to gasenwagen for him asap. |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"Its like putting a disturbed, isolated teenager in front of violent first-person shooter video games all day. If we know that most Americans are scared to invest in their own future, whats the reason to fuel that fear even further? Sadism? Or just plain exploitative greed?" |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
AAaaaahjahaha |
| 17:42 |
mircea_popescu |
dude, exploitative greed. teenager. videogames. it's got it all. |
| 17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves that was the one most lulzy piece of lulz i have seen in my entire life. ty vm. |
| 17:46 |
benkay |
she's alive |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake: author of the article kills himself, 6 bullets in the head << 6 mysterious bullets to the head that'll make you believe there's a god ? |
| 17:47 |
benkay |
http://media.giphy.com/media/1SRaXI2J1o7vO/giphy.gif |
| 17:47 |
princessnell |
missed me? |
| 17:47 |
benkay |
eh |
| 17:47 |
mircea_popescu |
we were starting to think you got like a regular job orsomething |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"Frankly, its time to put the scary parallels between now and 1929 to rest. This isnt 1929. Not even close. Anyone who tells you differently is talking nonsense." |
| 17:48 |
mircea_popescu |
how does it help me ? maybe it's fucking worse. |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
"hey us economy, remember that time in 1929 when you had lupus ? |
| 17:49 |
mircea_popescu |
well this time ain't that time. ain't even close. now you got bladder cancer." |
| 17:49 |
hanbot |
was watching logs, wondering if they eventually went out and asked the homeless people what they thought of that chart, mircea_popescu |
| 17:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39039 @ 0.00082466 = 32.1939 BTC [-] {2} |
| 17:50 |
hanbot |
and no, it's not for "helping" with anything other than ostrich impressionism |
| 17:51 |
benkay |
princessnell and hanbot at once? |
| 17:51 |
benkay |
cuntspiraci! |
| 17:52 |
hanbot |
now there's a catchy pasta name |
| 17:53 |
mircea_popescu |
hanbot you know that's a point |
| 17:53 |
mircea_popescu |
they're starting to miss numbers in the paint-by-the-numbers set. |
| 17:56 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/its-time-once-and-for-all-to-spend-10k-words-explaining-why-its-time-once-and-for-all-for-it-to-be-time-once-and-for-all/ |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Adohgg |
| 17:57 |
benkay |
there's a pun in there |
| 18:06 |
moiety |
i finally have curtains with poles and everything :D homelyness ftw |
| 18:06 |
moiety |
hi hanbot! |
| 18:06 |
hanbot |
hiya moiety |
| 18:07 |
moiety |
how are you liking argentina hanbot? settled in? |
| 18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
wait, poles ? |
| 18:08 |
moiety |
yeah lol curtain poles... there were just blinds up before when i moved in |
| 18:08 |
hanbot |
it's a nice country, good coffee. haha, curtaindancing? |
| 18:09 |
moiety |
i could stick a red light in the window see what happens i guess XD |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://u1.ipernity.com/23/17/26/12981726.9330f335.640.jpg?r2 << is that a pole ? |
| 18:10 |
moiety |
he may well be! but mine don't look like that |
| 18:10 |
moiety |
mine are more boring |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
he does have the cutest butt doesn't he. |
| 18:12 |
moiety |
ihave these ones http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mDx0wlUQZZ0W1p4BvqSl7Gg.jpg i wonder if i could do a swap? |
| 18:12 |
hanbot |
i'm having a hard time getting past the juxtaposition of butt and flossing o.O |
| 18:12 |
moiety |
i didn't even notice the floss... not gonna lie |
| 18:12 |
mircea_popescu |
yours look kinda small. |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
hanbot he's shaving |
| 18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
old style. |
| 18:14 |
moiety |
someone clever hid all his bath towels, good work. |
| 18:15 |
hanbot |
oh i see |
| 18:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00082315 = 10.8656 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:18 |
hanbot |
ninjashogun http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=derpage+from%3Aninjashogun |
| 18:18 |
assbot |
0 results for 'derpage from:ninjashogun' - #bitcoin-assets search |
| 18:22 |
chetty |
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/06/26/anti-amnesty-group-asks-americans-to-mail-gently-used-underwear-to-obama-boehner/ |
| 18:22 |
assbot |
Anti-Amnesty Group Asks Americans To Mail ‘Gently Used Underwear’ To Obama, Boehner « CBS DC |
| 18:24 |
mircea_popescu |
how's that supposed to work |
| 18:24 |
thestringpuller |
;;calc sin(3.14) |
| 18:24 |
gribble |
0.00159265291649 |
| 18:24 |
thestringpuller |
;;calc sin(90) |
| 18:24 |
gribble |
0.893996663601 |
| 18:25 |
|
Bet created: "Julian Assange to leave Ecuadorian Embassy" http://bitbet.us/bet/969/ |
| 18:26 |
mircea_popescu |
http://reviewc.nl/wp-content/uploads/gummo-50fbb558bf8e0.jpg |
| 18:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 92 @ 0.0166 = 1.5272 BTC [+] |
| 18:26 |
thestringpuller |
i hate clicking on images in this channel during work |
| 18:27 |
cazalla |
does anyone know a Shane Stevenson, Matthew K (don't know last name) behind the recent cointree.com.au exchange? |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller but u dun have to. |
| 18:27 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla nop |
| 18:28 |
pankkake |
I was going to say "this pic looks like gummo". but it's gummo :( |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.WOL] 500000 @ 0.00004005 = 20.025 BTC {7} |
| 18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
Harmony Korine |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
didn't he make that movie kids? |
| 18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
but wd on your muy well informed cinematometer. |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
with the rapist kids with aids? |
| 18:29 |
bitstein |
He wrote it. |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
^- there we go |
| 18:29 |
bitstein |
That movie was horrifying. |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
yea. I have no idea why the fuck I watched it. |
| 18:29 |
bitstein |
I really liked Spring Breakers. |
| 18:29 |
pankkake |
I watched it because of the music |
| 18:29 |
mircea_popescu |
sort of like, a la carte trainspotting. |
| 18:31 |
mircea_popescu |
but to move on, http://temps.tt.over-blog.com/2014/05/pastiches-a-consommer-sans-moderation.html |
| 18:31 |
assbot |
Pastiches ... consommer sans modration - Temps |
| 18:32 |
pankkake |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3YcCRrgfzY |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
Bethlehem - Schuld Uns'res Knoch'rigen Faltpferd - "Gummo" ('97) Soundtrack - YouTube |
| 18:32 |
pankkake |
I've read "La vie sexuelle de Tintin", that was quite a WTF |
| 18:32 |
mircea_popescu |
time once and for all to put la vie sexuelle de tintin once and for all to rest. |
| 18:35 |
|
Bet created: "Microsoft stock to close at over $45 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/970/ |
| 18:36 |
* |
punkman is contemplating starting a clothing label called cans+string |
| 18:37 |
hanbot |
so, bikinis? |
| 18:37 |
punkman |
mankinis |
| 18:37 |
FabianB |
$vwap s.wol |
| 18:37 |
empyex |
FabianB: S.WOL 1 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 7 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 30 day: average: 0.00004006 high: 0.000041 low: 0.00003999 volume: 500000 btc: 20.030063 |
| 18:38 |
mircea_popescu |
and there we go! |
| 18:41 |
kakobrekla |
all gone eh ? |
| 18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
ya one fell swoop, 33%ish over par |
| 18:42 |
kakobrekla |
noice! |
| 18:43 |
mthreat |
bitstein: Have you been to this? http://satoshiatx.com/ |
| 18:43 |
assbot |
Satoshi Square - Bitcoin Social Club and Exchange |
| 18:44 |
bitstein |
Not yet. I think it opens on July 4th for that party. I'll probably go. |
| 18:45 |
FabianB |
$unconfirmed |
| 18:45 |
empyex |
FabianB: 1763 |
| 18:48 |
FabianB |
$vwap s.bbet |
| 18:48 |
empyex |
FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 0.00052229 high: 0.0005234 low: 0.0005 volume: 2100 btc: 1.0968 30 day: average: 0.00049389 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 10248 btc: 5.061385 |
| 18:50 |
mircea_popescu |
FabianB what's unconfirmed do again ? |
| 18:52 |
mircea_popescu |
justusranvier "Well see why nobody uses arbitrarily-complex verbal contracts in practise by looking at what happens when something goes wrong." << this is nonsense. marriage is always and in all places the most complex contract, and almost always verbal. |
| 18:52 |
mircea_popescu |
when something goes wrong... people fuck. |
| 18:59 |
mircea_popescu |
one of the best things about a lot of floor space and stuff like parquet is that you can go for long chair rides |
| 18:59 |
asciilifeform |
lol! mr spam was here, and where was i. |
| 18:59 |
asciilifeform |
missed it all. |
| 19:04 |
asciilifeform |
and he's in wot? great! |
| 19:04 |
asciilifeform |
because now we can: |
| 19:05 |
asciilifeform |
;;rate ninjashogun -1 http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt |
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| 19:05 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. |
| 19:06 |
asciilifeform |
;;unrate ninjashogun |
| 19:06 |
gribble |
Successfully removed your rating for ninjashogun. |
| 19:06 |
asciilifeform |
;;rate ninjashogun -1 nice try, usg - http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ninjashogun.txt |
| 19:06 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ninjashogun has been recorded. |
| 19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
in the news : whatsapp revenue climbs to record 3.8 bn for quarter 2 (about $8500 per user), making the ~250mn profit trickling down to facebook slightly better than what it'd have got if it simply bought gilts for 20bn. |
| 19:13 |
justusranvier |
mircea_popescu: I consider marriage contracts to be relatively simple, especially the verbal ones before the state started getting involved. |
| 19:14 |
mircea_popescu |
how do you score simpleness then ? |
| 19:14 |
mircea_popescu |
and they are still verbal today. |
| 19:16 |
justusranvier |
If a contract is fully specified in some tangible form, then the amount of entropy in the explaination is inversely proportional to the simpleness. |
| 19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
so by this measure marriage contracts are the most complex contracts that can exist. |
| 19:17 |
asciilifeform |
justusranvier: let's try degenerate case. 'mr x owes mr y the following amount, in satoshis...' [followed by a 100MB turd from rng] |
| 19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not even going there, we supplement "meaningful" to serve his position. |
| 19:18 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders if anyone's ever crapped out a contract containing 'halting problem' |
| 19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
the eastern sages, yes |
| 19:18 |
Mats_cd03 |
asciilifeform: hahahaha lol. |
| 19:19 |
justusranvier |
Marriage: party A provides resources. Party B provides certainty of genetic lineage. |
| 19:20 |
justusranvier |
If either side fails to perform the contract no longer exists. |
| 19:20 |
justusranvier |
Before the State took over and made things rediculous |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a silly view of marriage. |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
yesterday i had a girl over, and the local girl and the new girl managed the use of the kitchen together. |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
also they shared the bidet. |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
this was in the contract. |
| 19:21 |
mircea_popescu |
now you go ahead and write that down. |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
According to a TechCrunch article, Zuckerberg's vision for Internet.org was as follows: "The idea, he said, is to develop a group of basic internet services that would be free of charge to use 'a 911 for the internet.' These could be a social networking service like Facebook, a messaging service, maybe search and other things like weather. Providing a bundle of these free of charge to users will work like a gateway |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
drug of sorts users who may be able to afford data services and phones these days just dont see the point of why they would pay for those data services. This would give them some context for why they are important, and that will lead them to paying for more services like this or so the hope goes." |
| 19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
this has got to be the most fucktarded business model i ever read. |
| 19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
so what, the reason i don't; buy an android tho i could afford to buy the engineer designing it is that... wait for it... it never occured to me to get... internet weather ? |
| 19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
god have mercy. |
| 19:24 |
justusranvier |
It's a perfectly fine business model. |
| 19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently there's lots we agree on :D |
| 19:24 |
justusranvier |
The spooks want Total Information Awareness. Zuckerberg is paid to get as many people as possible to opt in to surveillance. |
| 19:24 |
asciilifeform |
'the '90s called, they want their aol retardation back' |
| 19:24 |
justusranvier |
That's his actual business |
| 19:25 |
punkman |
it would be a perfectly fine business model if they'd make some money from their crappy ads |
| 19:25 |
justusranvier |
As long as he keeps getting more people to voluntarily give him their data, he keeps getting paid |
| 19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
justusranvier but that's your theory. i am a businessman, i read what's written. |
| 19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
what's written is still dumb. |
| 19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
punkman right ? remember the days back when 1% CTR was LOW ? |
| 19:26 |
punkman |
mircea_popescu: I do |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
hey mike_c you got like 10 btc with your name on it! s.wol mktcap like 400 atm. |
| 19:26 |
punkman |
I could indeed make money while I was sleeping then |
| 19:26 |
asciilifeform |
next phase is to convince folks to voluntarily move into labour camp, etc. to get Free! internet/food/whatever |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i couldn't sleep while making money |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
it was too exciting |
| 19:26 |
punkman |
that too |
| 19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform isn't that where you live ? |
| 19:27 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
| 19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
zingy zing-zing |
| 19:27 |
punkman |
bought cans-string.com :P |
| 19:27 |
* |
asciilifeform met day's uranium quota, plays cards |
| 19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
this calls for some cats going "cans string???" |
| 19:27 |
mike_c |
mircea_popescu: sweet! new ATH |
| 19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c lol ya. |
| 19:28 |
justusranvier |
mircea_popescu: As you said, the business model on it's face is retarded. There's no way it could legitimately generate a profit. |
| 19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much |
| 19:29 |
justusranvier |
Facebook et al have been like that from the beginning |
| 19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
now this is true... i guess facebook just used the capital judiciously. |
| 19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"if you gave us all this money for nothing, now here's 3x as much nothing" |
| 19:29 |
justusranvier |
So if it's not possible for them to legitmately generate profits, and they continue to as business, then at some point the most plausible explaination is their profit somes from some other source |
| 19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
btw, anyone read zuck's 10 page whitepaper on future of internets last year ? |
| 19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
justusranvier not necessarily. pirate didn't have "some other source" |
| 19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
manias are manias. |
| 19:30 |
justusranvier |
So Booz Allen Hamilton has one of their subsidaries start buying up analytics from advertising firms. Those firms become Facebook's customers. |
| 19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
he got lucky to be hit with easy money just right. |
| 19:31 |
justusranvier |
Money gets transferred cleanly from three-letter-agency to Facebook without any obvious trail. |
| 19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah. right. this totally works. |
| 19:32 |
justusranvier |
As long as you've got a buyer hidden somewhere with (effectively) infinately-deep pockets, then they can just put out RFQs and let it appear as if the "free market" has spontaneously formed an industry. |
| 19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=atlantic+media << a fine example of how well that works in practice. |
| 19:33 |
assbot |
4 results for 'atlantic media' - #bitcoin-assets search |
| 19:33 |
mircea_popescu |
actual practice. |
| 19:33 |
punkman |
justusranvier: hidden things aren't what they used to be |
| 19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
the general rule is that no bureaucracy can hide anything. |
| 19:34 |
justusranvier |
Not for very long, no. |
| 19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
only people can hide, starting with the salami and ending where you please. |
| 19:35 |
Mats_cd03 |
asciilifeform: 3 hours spent trying to convince you he understands the usb stack better than you do. hilarious |
| 19:36 |
punkman |
fun presentation on hidden things http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen.html |
| 19:36 |
assbot |
C3TV -Seeing The Secret State: Six Landscapes |
| 19:37 |
punkman |
dude takes some incredible photos |
| 19:37 |
benkay |
<mircea_popescu> when something goes wrong... people fuck. // and when things go right... |
| 19:37 |
punkman |
http://www.paglen.com/?l=work |
| 19:37 |
assbot |
Trevor Paglen :::: WORK |
| 19:37 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay also. |
| 19:40 |
mircea_popescu |
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html |
| 19:40 |
assbot |
The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies? |
| 19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
"This cover story details #young #vulnerable #feminist writer Amanda Hess's frustration with disinterested male law enforcement when, after writing an article about receiving rape threats from a troll, she received rape threats from a troll." |
| 19:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.0439594 = 1.2748 BTC [-] |
| 19:45 |
Mats_cd03 |
oh man |
| 19:47 |
Mats_cd03 |
"and then he stalked her on Facebook!" the humanity |
| 19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
"Anonymity makes the internet mean and gives trolls= men too much power." |
| 19:47 |
mircea_popescu |
oh boy, am i ever so grandiosely positioned for that one. can't wait. |
| 19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
You may at this point roll your eyes epileptically and retort, "well, who cares 'what the system wants', the fact is anonymity does embolden the lunatics, shouldn't we try to restrict it?" Great question, too bad it's irrelevant. You've taken the bait and put all your energy into accepting the form of the argument. The issue isn't whether we should abolish online anonymity, since this will never happen. For every Ameri |
| 19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
can senator trying to curb anonymity there's going to be a Scandinavian cyberpirate who will come up with a workaround, and only one of them knows how to code. Besides, there's no power in abolishing anonymity, the power is in giving everyone the pretense of anonymity while secretly retaining the PGP keys to the kingdom. |
| 19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
look at that, guy groks things enough to know pgp is the correct reference ? |
| 19:49 |
mircea_popescu |
dude make a wot account already, i'll rate you. |
| 19:49 |
Mats_cd03 |
This is the subtle shift: what starts out as "misogyny is bad" becomes "anonymity facilitates misogyny." |
| 19:50 |
Mats_cd03 |
crystallized something i have felt for a long time but am not eloquent to describe |
| 19:50 |
Mats_cd03 |
eloquent enough, anyway. |
| 19:51 |
mircea_popescu |
!up RSM |
| 19:52 |
princessnell |
TLP is gr8, a fellow traveler i think |
| 19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what's that mean ? |
| 19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
RSM how's this working out for you |
| 19:57 |
RSM |
we have ~129BTC in the wallet but have to pay £15k soon for 1(GH/s) of Scrypt ASIC's off AlphaT |
| 19:57 |
RSM |
plus have 5(TH/s)@5kW hashing |
| 19:57 |
mike_c |
;;calc 129 / 131000 |
| 19:57 |
gribble |
0.000984732824427 |
| 19:58 |
mike_c |
;;calc .0006 / .000985 |
| 19:58 |
gribble |
0.609137055838 |
| 19:58 |
mike_c |
i guess the market says there is a 40% chance you'll steal all the coin |
| 19:58 |
RSM |
796 has nowhere near the any speculators like BCT did |
| 19:58 |
RSM |
lol I've been hear since 2011 |
| 19:58 |
mike_c |
;;ident RSM |
| 19:58 |
gribble |
Nick 'RSM', with hostmask 'RSM!56b97cb3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.185.124.179', is not identified. |
| 19:59 |
RSM |
why steal now after 4 years |
| 19:59 |
mike_c |
i don't think you will, the market does. |
| 19:59 |
Blazedout419 |
RSM has alpha got a working prototype yet? |
| 20:00 |
dub |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271494.0 |
| 20:00 |
assbot |
FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ |
| 20:00 |
RSM |
no, but they scrapped the internal PSU and are usuing offshelf already ceritifed PSU's now. So we're hopping they can do waht KNC did with Jupiters from recieving chips to shipping within a week |
| 20:00 |
dub |
bitches better recognize |
| 20:00 |
Mats_cd03 |
been hear huh? i am compelled by your education |
| 20:01 |
bitstein |
The Last Psychiatrist is one of the best things on the Internet. |
| 20:01 |
dub |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ecp7UruLZI |
| 20:01 |
assbot |
Rhythm Quest - Closer To All Your Dreams - YouTube |
| 20:01 |
mike_c |
in my brief mining career i blew out a PSU. mining is such a wretched activity. |
| 20:01 |
Mats_cd03 |
be forewarned, asset-ers are not friendly to mining ventures as a general rule |
| 20:01 |
thestringpuller |
but it's so much fun |
| 20:02 |
thestringpuller |
Mats_cd03: pfft ThickAsThieves started his hustle mining |
| 20:02 |
Mats_cd03 |
and when was that |
| 20:02 |
mike_c |
but not actually mining |
| 20:02 |
Mats_cd03 |
two years ago? |
| 20:02 |
thestringpuller |
2013 |
| 20:02 |
thestringpuller |
Like Spring? |
| 20:02 |
thestringpuller |
check logs son |
| 20:02 |
mike_c |
just pretend mining. lot harder to blow out psu's that way |
| 20:02 |
Mats_cd03 |
aite |
| 20:02 |
kakobrekla |
!s test |
| 20:02 |
assbot |
879 results for 'test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=test |
| 20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
yay |
| 20:03 |
thestringpuller |
dope |
| 20:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
nice |
| 20:03 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
| 20:03 |
mike_c |
!s from:kakobrekla test |
| 20:03 |
assbot |
16 results for 'from:kakobrekla test' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+test |
| 20:03 |
mike_c |
awesome |
| 20:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
!s from:ThickAsThieves |
| 20:03 |
assbot |
37982 results for 'from:ThickAsThieves' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:ThickAsThieves |
| 20:03 |
RSM |
our main paln is to hopefully at least ROI on the 19GH/s) of scrypt and the current 5(TH/s). that's give us at least 150BTC then wait for then next bubble. We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months. |
| 20:04 |
RSM |
sorry 1(GH/s) of scrypt |
| 20:04 |
kakobrekla |
problem with from is it works on ":" only and well many use comma instead |
| 20:04 |
dub |
dude fuck off back to the forum |
| 20:04 |
thestringpuller |
http://en.bitcoinwiki.org/Namecoin << Lol "Relationship to Bitcon" what a typo |
| 20:04 |
assbot |
Namecoin - Bitcoin Wiki |
| 20:05 |
kakobrekla |
dunno if we should all switch to colon or make search use comma to parse 'to' as well |
| 20:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.04101311 = 1.0253 BTC [-] {4} |
| 20:06 |
mike_c |
who uses comma? |
| 20:06 |
kakobrekla |
i used to it seem, now im down to nothing |
| 20:06 |
bitcoinpete |
thestringpuller: like this bitcon? http://canadianbullionservices.com/silver-coins-2/1-oz-2014-bitcon-silver-round |
| 20:06 |
assbot |
CanadianBullion - 1 oz 2014 BitCON Silver Round |
| 20:06 |
kakobrekla |
blah |
| 20:07 |
RSM |
we own the bragging rights to being the oldest publicly traded bitcoin security afaik or at least mining stock. IPO started january 2012 |
| 20:07 |
mike_c |
meh. "to" seems unreliable regardless. not sure it adds much over simple "from + name" search anyway |
| 20:08 |
mike_c |
!s from:kakobrekla mike_c |
| 20:08 |
assbot |
74 results for 'from:kakobrekla mike_c' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+mike_c |
| 20:08 |
mike_c |
!s from:kakobrekla to:mike_c |
| 20:08 |
assbot |
1 results for 'from:kakobrekla to:mike_c' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:kakobrekla+to:mike_c |
| 20:08 |
mike_c |
whoa |
| 20:09 |
kakobrekla |
see, there is comma a few times |
| 20:09 |
asciilifeform |
'six landscapes' film << neat. wonder if the author has already fellated a nailgun. |
| 20:09 |
kakobrekla |
and mostly nothing. |
| 20:09 |
mike_c |
yeah. i don't think 'to' needs improving, just ignoring. |
| 20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << somebody with a reddit account please drop this in the whatever sluts subreddit |
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| 20:12 |
assbot |
I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
| 20:12 |
mircea_popescu |
and anyone that does a lot of camsites or whatever - spread it wouldja. |
| 20:12 |
kakobrekla |
;;rate mthreat 1 spammicide searchinator |
| 20:12 |
mthreat |
<kakobrekla> see, there is comma a few times << I see what you mean. For the "to", I just extracted using regex: "^([a-zA-Z0-9\-\_]+): " |
| 20:12 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded. |
| 20:13 |
RSM |
I want to move RSM trading potentially on to Counterparty, but afaik there's no way to ever halt trading if we want to move. Offtopic my speculation is that Etherum is taking so long as their trying to wait for side-chains possibly? |
| 20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
<mike_c> ;;ident RSM << guy's like nefario's oldest chav friend. |
| 20:13 |
mircea_popescu |
his spelling's not much improved over the years either. |
| 20:13 |
RSM |
why Chav coz i can't spell? |
| 20:13 |
kakobrekla |
mthreat dunno if theres a better solution, dont worry about it |
| 20:14 |
RSM |
I'm dsylexic too fu@k and you should see my handwriting |
| 20:14 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much yeah |
| 20:14 |
mike_c |
dyslexia makes you replace 'c' with '@'? that sucks. |
| 20:14 |
kakobrekla |
the keys are right next to each other |
| 20:14 |
RSM |
I studied fast Fourier transforms and matrix manipulation as an under grad though so at least i can count |
| 20:15 |
mike_c |
you can manipulate the matrix?? that is impressive. |
| 20:15 |
kakobrekla |
the agents. they are here. |
| 20:15 |
RSM |
it's just patens to foloow |
| 20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
"We have dividends already covered for at least the next twelbve months." << what sense does this make ? |
| 20:15 |
kakobrekla |
ascii and mp were right all along. |
| 20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
do you provision for dividends orsometing ? |
| 20:16 |
RSM |
yeah currently about ~5.5BTc in the div fund |
| 20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety you got a reddit hon ? |
| 20:17 |
RSM |
I'm starting a motion to raise the salry fund as the two current Linux system admins are paid peanuts |
| 20:17 |
Mats_cd03 |
lol |
| 20:18 |
RSM |
one of them is an abosulte CLI genuis. he's a slackware guru for the last four years |
| 20:18 |
Mats_cd03 |
im sure you think so |
| 20:19 |
RSM |
currently building a 05 fee LTC P2Pool node with a dedicated server going in the DCtomorow gonna make it public based in Kansas City |
| 20:19 |
RSM |
sorry 0% fee |
| 20:20 |
RSM |
they've got it merged-mining ten chains so far lolz |
| 20:20 |
moiety |
mircea_popescu: I do. Just for posting about derp.net |
| 20:21 |
hanbot |
moiety, he prolly means http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#734588 |
| 20:21 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 20:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00082487 = 17.4872 BTC [+] |
| 20:23 |
moiety |
lol np |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
'agents, they are here' << 'we had no doubts that the dacha [place of n. s. khruschev's forced retirement] was festooned with microphones, but as to where the receiving devices and tape reels were emplaced - no one had any idea. somehow this did not interest us... ... i must say that the apparatus worked in a rather mediocre way, and the eavesdropping was conducted so shabbily, especially in the latter years of |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
father's life. the guards who had replaced melnikov, often, instead of switching the tape reel to record, confused the buttons. then, from father's walls, you could hear muffled singing, instrumental pieces, stage concerts - the microphones had turned into speakers. sometimes, i allowed myself a laugh - would feign surprise at the ghostly music and offer to locate its source. in a moment, silence would always fa |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
ll.' |
| 20:28 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
(bio of n. s. khruschev, by his son. translation mine.) |
| 20:29 |
asciilifeform |
('Никита Хрущев. Пенсионер союзного значения.' Сергей Хрущев.) |
| 20:32 |
kakobrekla |
amazing. |
| 20:32 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 20:33 |
thestringpuller |
;;google site:trilema.com dr. foreskin |
| 20:33 |
gribble |
These fucktards have to be immortalised, they're worse than Dr ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/these-fucktards-have-to-be-immortalised-theyre-worse-than-dr-foreskin-even/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>; The psychology of the bagholder pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the- (1 more message) |
| 20:33 |
thestringpuller |
;;more |
| 20:33 |
gribble |
bagholder/> |
| 20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
!up greencabbige |
| 20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
cabbige |
| 20:34 |
greencabbige |
can I talk now? |
| 20:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.194 = 0.97 BTC [-] |
| 20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
yes, for 30 minutes |
| 20:34 |
greencabbige |
looks like it |
| 20:35 |
greencabbige |
oh thought you lot wanted rid of me? |
| 20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
!s #bitcoin-assets +m |
| 20:35 |
assbot |
Search the #bitcoin-assets log : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=#bitcoin-assets++m |
| 20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
| 20:35 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google #bitcoin-assets +m |
| 20:35 |
gribble |
#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/>; NEXT: 02-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-05-2014>; NEXT: 06-05-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2014&bots=true> |
| 20:36 |
kakobrekla |
+ is a special char |
| 20:36 |
greencabbige |
RSM is www.796.com and I had a bit of gossip for you's in that IBWT is potentially working on a UK based securities exchange. he wants me to bring some shares over and manage it, but rsm board very worried of uk regulators. |
| 20:36 |
kakobrekla |
!s "+m" |
| 20:36 |
assbot |
1050 results for '" m"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q="+m" |
| 20:36 |
kakobrekla |
lolk |
| 20:37 |
mthreat |
may need to URL encode it |
| 20:37 |
mthreat |
!s % |
| 20:37 |
assbot |
Error - search.bicoin-assets.com : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=% |
| 20:37 |
mthreat |
yep |
| 20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
edge case anyway |
| 20:37 |
kakobrekla |
but if if visit http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q="+m" in my browser |
| 20:37 |
assbot |
1050 results for '" m"' - #bitcoin-assets search |
| 20:37 |
kakobrekla |
the search sez " m" |
| 20:38 |
mthreat |
the "+" would be %2B url-encoded |
| 20:39 |
mircea_popescu |
greencabbige so your 12 months dividends are going to be 5.5 btc in the future ? |
| 20:39 |
kakobrekla |
!s "+m" |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
1050 results for '"+m"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22%2Bm%22 |
| 20:39 |
kakobrekla |
aha |
| 20:39 |
kakobrekla |
werks |
| 20:39 |
mthreat |
yep |
| 20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
25-06-2014 17:04:04 <mircea_popescu> !t m d.bpay > ? |
| 20:40 |
mthreat |
now my [broken] terminal client (SecureCRT) double-url-encodes it. heh |
| 20:40 |
kakobrekla |
heh |
| 20:41 |
kakobrekla |
thats your reward for making the thing |
| 20:41 |
kakobrekla |
it will never work for you. |
| 20:41 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 20:41 |
mthreat |
it's ok, i'm stoic |
| 20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa! |
| 20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be an excellent epitaph |
| 20:43 |
greencabbige |
if you divide the current RSM wallet by the amount of shares rsm doesn't own then that's a value of over 0.0010btc alone. While current lowest offer is 0.0006btc. Once we get a tracking code for 1(GH/s) of scrypt supposedly and hopefully within the next three to five weeks we're moving and buying all shares back below 0.0010. Where's the days of BTCT sepecualtion i share price went over 0.015 last summer our wallet w |
| 20:43 |
mthreat |
http://www.myplates.com/Images/Plates/PLPC001?plateText=STOIC |
| 20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
greencabbige you got your 2012 books published anywhere ? |
| 20:44 |
mircea_popescu |
mthreat yours? |
| 20:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00082525 = 9.903 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:46 |
kakobrekla |
hm mthreat , "+m" will match "m" |
| 20:46 |
mthreat |
mircea_popescu: nope. mine is https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/7923842/1402238460/1500x500 |
| 20:46 |
mthreat |
kakobrekla: yeah, +m just means "m is required" in the search language |
| 20:47 |
greencabbige |
possibly somewhere although i did it all my self then so very messy. Like I said our share price was 0.015 what saved us is I offered 0.002 per share for new funds to buy three KNC Jupiters. the shareholders we mostly against it, but i new those bfl's wernt worth shit. So it kind saved our bacon, but drastically lowered share price as I bought in 200% more shares and there's no knew buyers on 796. |
| 20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda loud neh ? |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
yes, but even when quoting it |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
im not saying '+m' but '"+m"' |
| 20:47 |
mthreat |
kakobrekla: right. there's no way to search for the plus sign. |
| 20:47 |
bitcoinpete |
http://mineforeman.com/2014/06/27/brainwallet-org-exploited-and-bitcoins-stolen/ << a matter of time |
| 20:47 |
assbot |
BrainWallet.org exploited and bitcoins stolen | Mineforeman |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
aha ok |
| 20:47 |
mthreat |
kakobrekla: all text gets tokenized |
| 20:47 |
kakobrekla |
rgr |
| 20:48 |
mircea_popescu |
greencabbige so you started a mining security in jan 2012 at 0.015, now trading at 0.006 and don't have any books. |
| 20:49 |
bitstein |
mthreat: love that plate |
| 20:50 |
greencabbige |
we've been on three exchanges now everything is fully recorded in our old thread. yes i have loads of old spreadsheets. Although the accounts guy didn't comne on board until last summer We orginally raised 200BTC in early 2012 then 120BTc last summer. |
| 20:51 |
mthreat |
bitstein: thx |
| 20:51 |
asciilifeform |
Math.random() << lol! |
| 20:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00082758 = 18.0412 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:51 |
bitstein |
Both of them. |
| 20:51 |
greencabbige |
I think our intial seed funding from the orgianlly IPO was about $2.5k we now about 480k in bitcoins alone, a server, 5TH/s and a 30% depsoit on 1(GH/s) of scrypt. |
| 20:51 |
greencabbige |
sorry |
| 20:51 |
greencabbige |
$80k in the wallet |
| 20:51 |
asciilifeform |
'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench |
| 20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 20:52 |
Mats_cd03 |
if you want to be in the black a year from now, sadly your best play is just to take off with the funds |
| 20:52 |
Mats_cd03 |
the sad state of being involved in an enterprise you can't control and don't understand |
| 20:53 |
greencabbige |
no we can get 200BTC by next year and bitcoin could go to $5k. We have a cool $1million to play with then. |
| 20:54 |
mthreat |
amazing plan! |
| 20:54 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 20:54 |
kakobrekla |
why am i hearing dollars, who said that? |
| 20:54 |
greencabbige |
better than fu~k all if you ask me |
| 20:54 |
asciilifeform |
amazing currency! |
| 20:54 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 20:54 |
greencabbige |
as hardware is priced in dollars |
| 20:55 |
greencabbige |
during a bubble all the current in stock gear that won't roi will easily roi |
| 20:55 |
mircea_popescu |
this would be the epitome of do it yourself finance / citizen dentistry. |
| 20:55 |
Mats_cd03 |
whats your plan when hash goes to 1000ph and all your gear makes fractions of a penny? |
| 20:55 |
asciilifeform |
citizen appendectomy. |
| 20:56 |
benkay |
<asciilifeform> 'the morel [sic] equivalent of opening other peoples physical wallets and taking the cash found within.' << more like digging out a bag of gold some anonymous idiot buried under park bench // or...morels |
| 20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
also i am noticing in disbelief i missed out a 0. it's not 0.015 to 0.006 but to 0.0006 |
| 20:56 |
assbot |
Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19MV24T.txt ) |
| 20:56 |
benkay |
!b 1 |
| 20:56 |
greencabbige |
ffs matt do you think I can't use a calcualtor or know anything about any of that sh~t I've been hear since 2011. So aint even gonna answer that. |
| 20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 0.0006 / 0.015 |
| 20:56 |
gribble |
0.04 |
| 20:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20579 @ 0.00082812 = 17.0419 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:57 |
benkay |
four hundredths your money back in two years! |
| 20:57 |
kakobrekla |
ognasty did better. |
| 20:57 |
kakobrekla |
only 65% loss there. |
| 20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
but that's a social club |
| 20:58 |
greencabbige |
ok if you really wanna know with all our old gear we've sold it on ebay for more than we calcualted we'd a flogged out of it in the endz |
| 20:58 |
mircea_popescu |
greencabbige so is it true that nefario used you to launder all the fraudulent claims he made for various holdings on his own exchange after he closed it down ? |
| 20:59 |
greencabbige |
? |
| 20:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24067 @ 0.0008282 = 19.9323 BTC [+] |
| 20:59 |
greencabbige |
news to me |
| 20:59 |
Mats_cd03 |
if selling burned gear is how you anticipate roi, you're in for a bad time |
| 20:59 |
greencabbige |
i hardley now the guy, I met him once briefly |
| 20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
that it can't be, as the charge was levied back in 2012. |
| 20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
well, no, not really. |
| 21:00 |
Mats_cd03 |
GL finding a bagholder, that will surely be a feat of strength if you can manage it again |
| 21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=271494.msg2909807#msg2909807 << for that matter here you go, august 2013. |
| 21:01 |
assbot |
FU all you trolls and doubters where are you now??????????/ | Page 2 | Bitcointa.lk |
| 21:01 |
greencabbige |
ffs getting tired of this shit now. for a start if we sell it on ebay then people can buy it with a credit card to gety into a bitcoin. one of the only the ways to get in to bicoin safely with a credit card. Why all the attacks? |
| 21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i think seinfeld has the answer to that. |
| 21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7bKly7Od8M |
| 21:02 |
assbot |
Seinfeld: No Resources, No Skills, No Talent, No Ability, No Brains. . . - YouTube |
| 21:02 |
greencabbige |
ok if oyu're all gonna tag team on me with your littel club I'll just leave then should and carry on. We don't need any new money. we're currently in the strongest position we've ever been. |
| 21:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
greencabbige: because mining now is a net loss. i hope you come back to this conversation when you have toasted your runway |
| 21:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
and consider the cacophony of voices insisting you're fucking wrong. |
| 21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
if this club is littel i shudder to think what bigness looks like. |
| 21:07 |
benkay |
disregard them greencabbige it's an echo chamber |
| 21:07 |
benkay |
they just reinforce the same set of tired old mantras |
| 21:07 |
benkay |
"business is hard" |
| 21:07 |
benkay |
"mining is -ev" |
| 21:07 |
benkay |
fn cult i tell ya |
| 21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
actually it was more like "where's your books" and "why are you -96%" |
| 21:08 |
mircea_popescu |
but same principle. |
| 21:10 |
assbot |
RagnarDanneskjol +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 21:10 |
mircea_popescu |
!up RagnarDanneskjol |
| 21:10 |
benkay |
is danneskjol some sort of proxy for "bitch of"? |
| 21:10 |
benkay |
linguistic transform |
| 21:11 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
bitch is my phone |
| 21:11 |
benkay |
right on |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
tlb brings a good point. how come in the war between spooks and techs, it's the TECHS that get accused of being mysogynistic ? |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
im pretty certain fewer women work for the nsa and generally for the us secret service community than for silicon valley firms |
| 21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
at least from the supposedly secret usg employment rolls i've seen to date. |
| 21:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31042 @ 0.00082822 = 25.7096 BTC [+] {4} |
| 21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"If I had to put my chips and my children against an 8 year rotation of civil service nincompoops vs. some nerd with an open marriage who spent $15M on a "bachelor pad" so he could score chicks of questionable emotional stability, I'm going with the group my private sector lawyers have an outside chance of pwoning." |
| 21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
somebody fundamentally gets it. |
| 21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't fuck with people with bachelor pads and open relationships. |
| 21:22 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
HA |
| 21:23 |
benkay |
http://otakugangsta.com/post/90000203350 |
| 21:23 |
assbot |
OTAKU GANGSTA |
| 21:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9642 @ 0.00082416 = 7.9466 BTC [-] |
| 21:26 |
dub |
is there bitcoin for iphone yet? |
| 21:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00082372 = 4.2833 BTC [-] |
| 21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
iphcoin coming soon |
| 21:27 |
benkay |
man okay guys talk me off this cliff |
| 21:27 |
benkay |
iphone wallet |
| 21:27 |
benkay |
spv makes it possible right? |
| 21:28 |
dub |
blockchain has an iphone-app page |
| 21:28 |
dub |
clearly I dont have an iphone to check with |
| 21:29 |
benkay |
but a non api app |
| 21:29 |
benkay |
this is doable, i b'leev. |
| 21:29 |
mike_c |
https://github.com/voisine/breadwallet |
| 21:29 |
assbot |
voisine/breadwallet GitHub |
| 21:29 |
benkay |
k nm saved by the market |
| 21:30 |
benkay |
"WARNING: installation on jailbroken devices is strongly discouraged |
| 21:30 |
benkay |
" |
| 21:30 |
dub |
friend wants to accept buttcoin but suffer appleblight |
| 21:31 |
dub |
alternative is $50 droidphone i guess |
| 21:32 |
bloctoc |
dub coinpocket works |
| 21:38 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
tell him to try airwallet [disclosure, its hosted by me]. doesnt seem wise using appstore wallets as they might disappear tomorrow |
| 21:42 |
bloctoc |
coinpocket can export private key. not disparaging airwallet - just never used it. |
| 21:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04299997 = 1.247 BTC [+] |
| 21:43 |
assbot |
alecpap +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 |
| 21:43 |
kakobrekla |
!up alecpap |
| 21:44 |
alecpap |
kakobrekla, thanks |
| 21:46 |
moiety |
brb, imma actually have to add a pic on reddit to post. |
| 21:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.01561 = 0.5776 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74350 @ 0.00082112 = 61.0503 BTC [-] {5} |
| 22:03 |
punkman |
http://np.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/296zn4/redditor_lost_20000_worth_of_bitcoin_due_to/ |
| 22:04 |
assbot |
Redditor lost ~$20,000 worth of bitcoin due to insecure wallet generator. /u/BtcRobinHood steps in and return the money to its rightful owner. : bestof |
| 22:05 |
punkman |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/266hdb/psa_brainwalletorgs_random_button_uses_lowentropy/chovb50 |
| 22:05 |
assbot |
btclittlejohn comments on PSA: brainwallet.org's "random" button uses low-entropy Math.random() |
| 22:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00082374 = 12.4385 BTC [+] |
| 22:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00082057 = 2.913 BTC [-] |
| 22:12 |
thestringpuller |
lulz |
| 22:12 |
thestringpuller |
moar lulz |
| 22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 22:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44430 @ 0.00082019 = 36.441 BTC [-] {3} |
| 22:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04397156 = 0.5277 BTC [+] {3} |
| 22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
Why would the The Economist's rich and powerful demo want to be ruled? Because they aren't powerful, only rich, all that time getting rich did not translate to any power, only the trappings of power. So they've postulated a fantasy power structure/NBA owners that explains why they can't enjoy their lives as they think they should-- to absolve themselves of the guilt they feel for having money/intellect/opportunities an |
| 22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
d NOT being able to do anything with it except spend it on the system-wide approved gimmicks: Trading Up, college educations, the National Bank of S&P 500. |
| 22:18 |
mircea_popescu |
ok, quite splendid. the us is chock full of supposedly rich people who are about as powerless as a random south american whore |
| 22:18 |
mircea_popescu |
the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful is perhaps the lulziest part of the bezzle system. |
| 22:18 |
thestringpuller |
damn transaction scripts are hard to grasp at first |
| 22:20 |
asciilifeform |
the notion that you can somehow be rich without being powerful << actually the u.s. system is quite like the classical soviet world of 'special access' groceries, gov.-issued dachas, official limousines |
| 22:20 |
asciilifeform |
bureaucrat gets fellated in various little ways, in exchange for... a readiness to get down on his knees, ready to please. |
| 22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
RagnarDanneskjol think you know someone wanna do http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2014#718932 ? |
| 22:20 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
that'd be the exact antithesis of power. |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
correct |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. liveried servitude |
| 22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
!up RagnarDanneskjol |
| 22:23 |
asciilifeform |
american apparatchik gets a bag of bezzlars, 'his' to use to 'buy' manhattan penthouse. but same purpose as dacha near moscow issued to a similar creature |
| 22:23 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
I'm on it. pls standby |
| 22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform also with a sort of paper cert. |
| 22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
RagnarDanneskjol that's what i do all day anyway :D |
| 22:23 |
punkman |
http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/06/14/sportsbet-derails-betting-on-trains-after-metro-demands-cancellation/ |
| 22:24 |
assbot |
Sportsbet stops offering odds on Metro Trains | Crikey |
| 22:24 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
ha |
| 22:32 |
decimation |
re: liveried servitude << why? http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2014/06/the-great-fear-ethnocentrism-why-do.html |
| 22:32 |
assbot |
Council of European Canadians: The Great Fear --- Why do Whites Fear their own Ethnicity? |
| 22:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00082392 = 13.2651 BTC [+] {2} |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
https://twitter.com/keystricken/status/481292361180258306 << that old rusty gizmo, still generating lulz |
| 22:32 |
assbot |
This is AMAZINGLY engrossing. http://t.co/TSOiUtbtwX |
| 22:33 |
decimation |
I find the main human weakness w.r.t. generating randomness is a great aversion to repeated outcomes |
| 22:35 |
asciilifeform |
for some reason, it's mostly female names/portraits linking to it these days. maybe mircea_popescu can shed light on why. |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform males got selected for decisive action, females for an ability to withstand brainhacking. |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
(the better ones get hacked by better guys thus make offspring that suvives better) |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
that thing doesn't look appealing to decisive action, but it does look insidiously like brain hacking. |
| 22:37 |
* |
asciilifeform made pet female play the 'game' shortly after first met. she beat the machine in about two minutes, by counting letters in words from memory, objects in surroundings, etc. |
| 22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
"Here's a transcript of an illegal recording not done by the NSA that therefore everyone is ok with, consistent with our new standard of conduct: it is not illegal to make an illegal recording as long as it is given to the media and they profit from it and we can use it to rationalize our lives. Got it." lulzy |
| 22:37 |
decimation |
"Of these speakers, Jeffrey Sachs, leading international economic adviser and director of the Earth Institute, is the most articulate in his explicit admission that we must follow the ideology of diversity regardless of what the scientific evidence says." |
| 22:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00081924 = 25.4784 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:38 |
decimation |
mircea, in many US states it is illeagal to record conversations without both party's explict permission |
| 22:38 |
asciilifeform |
(the cpp version thereof) |
| 22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation well yes. |
| 22:40 |
decimation |
the primary purpose of such laws is to protect corrupt politicians from being exposed, of course |
| 22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
in those same other states it's illegal to present yourself as a "leading international adviser" while you're a sort of rsm. |
| 22:40 |
decimation |
rsm ? |
| 22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
!s from:rsm |
| 22:41 |
assbot |
5 results for 'from:rsm' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Arsm |
| 22:42 |
decimation |
are you propsing that Professor Sachs belongs in the same category as bitcoin scammers? |
| 22:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8511 @ 0.00082398 = 7.0129 BTC [+] |
| 22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i do, yes. |
| 22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
what's he done ? |
| 22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean other than running the markov chain apparatus of opinion. |
| 22:44 |
decimation |
actually I think that's kind of an insult to the scammers |
| 22:45 |
decimation |
at least they ran some risk, he just collects his tenure pay |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly. they don't run any risk if they can help it. and besides, he was young once, he ran the risk of no tenure. |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
a very bad risk, from what i hear. |
| 22:45 |
decimation |
true. getting tenure in the us university is a nightmare, from what I've heard |
| 22:46 |
decimation |
in fact his entire behavior seems perfectly consistant with your quote from ascii's link http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729369 |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
| 22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
actually, i will readily PROVE to you he's exactly in the same category. |
| 22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://blockchain.info/address/1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ know what this is ? |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Address 1Bbu9uvaNMWmAGj6sPF3edaA4u1wY2DLtZ |
| 22:47 |
decimation |
interestingly it pops up in a link on the last pscyhiactrist's blog |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
interestingly, it's his donation address. with 6 bitcents in it. |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
tlp makes less than trilema. that's my proof sachs = rsm. |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
acceptable ? |
| 22:48 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
http://www.independent.co.ug/column/comment/9022-why-jeffrey-sachs-matters |
| 22:48 |
assbot |
Why Jeffrey Sachs matters |
| 22:49 |
RagnarDanneskjol |
Sachs is the Bono of economics - LOL |
| 22:49 |
decimation |
so to be clear, you are pointing out that someone who actually has original thoughts has a few bitcents, while sachs is raking in the speaking fees? |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
no. i am pointing out that someone whose brain works quite well but who wastes his time THERE rather than hire makes piddly squat. |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
and the THERE is the there of sachs. |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
s/hire/here, apparently dyslexia is contagious |
| 22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
so, the argument goes, invest your btc with rsm, 4% left in three years |
| 22:51 |
mircea_popescu |
or invest your intelligence with the bezzle, 4% left in thirty years ? |
| 22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
in the end, the fuck's the difference. |
| 22:52 |
extra |
hey guys so |
| 22:53 |
extra |
i'm meeting the coinbase co-founders at a Q&A tomorrow |
| 22:53 |
extra |
any questions you want me to ask them ? |
| 22:53 |
mircea_popescu |
what's their burn rate, or alternatively how long they got. |
| 22:55 |
decimation |
are they planning on actually making a real exchange on us soil? |
| 22:56 |
extra |
good Q |
| 22:56 |
decimation |
if so, how many regulators in how many states have they met with? how many lawyers retained? |
| 22:56 |
decimation |
because if the answer is 0, they are just dicking around |
| 23:00 |
bloctoc |
if the answer is more than 0 they are double plus dicking around |
| 23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyers-12.jpg << this just in |
| 23:01 |
decimation |
bloctoc: you might be right, but I suspect the "floor price" of buying into the entire us regulatory system is somewhere in the 10's of millions of dollars, perhaps low hundreds |
| 23:01 |
decimation |
it's interesting that this kind of wealth exists today in bitcoin yet no one is willing to spend it on bureaucracy |
| 23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation nah, it's not that bad |
| 23:02 |
decimation |
mircea what portion of the youth in argentina speak english well enough to read trilema? |
| 23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
bout half ? |
| 23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't really matter anyway, a kid that's not bilingual is not literate anyway |
| 23:03 |
decimation |
there's much truth to that |
| 23:03 |
mircea_popescu |
letters used to come with latin in a package for this reason |
| 23:05 |
decimation |
mircea I'm just amazed that there is clearly an opportunity to make a profitable exchange on US soil, yet it appears no one is trying |
| 23:05 |
decimation |
at least, not without making any noise about it |
| 23:05 |
mircea_popescu |
it[s not that clearly profitable. |
| 23:06 |
decimation |
well, there's the issue of the usg taking 96% of your assets at a point of their choosing |
| 23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
you're grossly overestimating what it'd cost, it's maybe over 1mn but pretty sure under 10. |
| 23:06 |
decimation |
you would have to engage lawyers in 50 states and DC for sure |
| 23:06 |
decimation |
or start small and build up |
| 23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
nevertheless, do the math. if 100 mn us citizens spend 10 bux to buy from you over a year, out of the 0.2% you charge them you've made... 2mn |
| 23:06 |
mircea_popescu |
well done, almost paid with your legalese bill. let's hope all advertising was free |
| 23:07 |
decimation |
surely the bezzleers on wall street want a place to play |
| 23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
but it won't be free, because there's better way to extract value from the us consumer than taking 2 cents out of his 10 bux |
| 23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
yah, and they'll use your exchange |
| 23:07 |
mircea_popescu |
because why ? |
| 23:07 |
decimation |
heh good point |
| 23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
the us "market" is underserved for a reason. you can't get good wine, either, nor good cheese |
| 23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
nor good bread nor actual linen shirts nor steel engine blocks. |
| 23:08 |
mircea_popescu |
none of these'd be hard to do, legally. |
| 23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
the practicalities of a healthy sex life in argentina : as everywhere in south america, abortions are illegal here. |
| 23:13 |
mircea_popescu |
the one exception is uruguay, where they're not. so if you manage to knock up a girl in buenos aires, you have to ship her across the river. |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
wine... cheese... bread... linen... steel engine << you can get them. just pay and pay. |
| 23:15 |
decimation |
what about portable nuclear reactors? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Nuclear_Power_Program |
| 23:15 |
assbot |
Army Nuclear Power Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 23:15 |
* |
asciilifeform doesn't own one |
| 23:16 |
moiety |
any redditors around? |
| 23:16 |
decimation |
So the US Dod in the past had a program to put a 2.5 mw generator on a truck and put it in a combat zone |
| 23:16 |
asciilifeform |
wtf is a redditor |
| 23:16 |
moiety |
people who reddit |
| 23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation those aren't really something you'd want |
| 23:16 |
moiety |
apparently |
| 23:16 |
* |
asciilifeform did once |
| 23:16 |
decimation |
then use the energy to convert carbon via fischer-troph to synthetic fuel |
| 23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
did you get banned ? |
| 23:16 |
moiety |
not yet |
| 23:16 |
moiety |
oh asciilifeform lol |
| 23:17 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.reddit.com/user/asciilifeform |
| 23:17 |
assbot |
overview for asciilifeform |
| 23:17 |
asciilifeform |
apparently not banned yet |
| 23:17 |
decimation |
they even put one in a snow fort in Greenland in the '50s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm |
| 23:17 |
assbot |
Project Iceworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 23:18 |
decimation |
my point is that many americans and 'allies' died in Afghanistan and Iraq transporting fuel to bases |
| 23:19 |
decimation |
they can't have a portable nuclear reactor because it would make the evrionmentalists batty |
| 23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
more like because it doesn't work so well. |
| 23:20 |
decimation |
what, nuclear fission? |
| 23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
portable nuclear reacors |
| 23:20 |
decimation |
well, like any engineering project it depends on the design |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
So what went wrong? For one thing, the villages that Sachs picked experienced all kinds of problems from drought to political unrest. For another, the MVP took an idealistic Field of Dreams approach. MVP leaders encouraged farmers to switch to a series of new crops that were in demand in richer countries, and experts on the ground did a good job of helping farmers to produce good crop yields by using fertilis |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
er, irrigation, and better seeds. |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
But the MVP didnt simultaneously invest in developing markets for these crops. According to Munk, Pineapple couldnt be exported after all, because the cost of transport was far too high. There was no market for ginger, apparently. And, despite some early interest from buyers in Japan, no one wanted banana flour. The farmers grew the crops, but the buyers didnt come. |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
ahjahahaha o god. |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder how long until these schmucks can earnestly admit "we like going to poor villages in africa because it is enjoyable to peruse in detail the troglodytism of lesser people" |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
all this disavowing pretense of "helping them" and "world better place" bs. |
| 23:23 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, this is the only kind of 'charity' that exists in u.s. - and that their 'export product' is similar, should surprise no one. |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
Of course, Sachs knows that its critical to understand market dynamics; hes one of the worlds smartest economists. But in the villages Munk profiled, Sachs seems to be wearing blinders. |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
Warren Buffett likes to say, The rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield. Through that rearview mirror, we can see that the project never had an economic model that could sustain successes once the MVP dollars ran out. |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
All of the interventions involved health, agriculture, infrastructure, education, and business seed money make sense if carried out carefully, over time. But I am surprised by how little Sachs dug into country budgets, and that he didnt work to convince governments to commit to additional taxation |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
dude wants more taxes. that's the way! |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
and nobody could have predicted that nobody wants crap in the middle of nowhere. |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
this sort of prose should be a penal offense. |
| 23:26 |
decimation |
"Another reason Sachs offers for the benefits of diversity is the rather common one that the more contact we have with other ethnic groups, the more we develop trust, forgetting his own previous observation that trust declines in diverse societies, but calling attention instead to some research about the amicable ways in which individuals from different ethnic groups, jet set businessmen and academics, interact with different ethnic |
| 23:26 |
decimation |
individuals inside hotels, restaurants, and conferences. " |
| 23:26 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
| 23:27 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah dude, some guy in a five star hotel is so very likely to butcher some other guy in a five star hotel. |
| 23:27 |
mircea_popescu |
they have all these points of conflict all over the environment, such as who fucked the blonde escort last |
| 23:27 |
mircea_popescu |
and left the flap up |
| 23:27 |
decimation |
right but they can sit and chat amicably for a few hours |
| 23:28 |
decimation |
so therefore, open the third world's floodgates |
| 23:28 |
mircea_popescu |
the benefit of diversity is quite plainly that anytihng that can be butchered should be butchered. |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"But thats not his style. He rolls up his sleeves. He puts his theories into action. He drives himself as hard as anyone I know." gates now a "hard work" apologist ? |
| 23:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"dude failed but that's ok, he worked hard". wtf just how rotten is that mental space. |
| 23:29 |
decimation |
there's no other conclusion than: white people in the west "want" to be invaded, crushed, and forgotten |
| 23:31 |
decimation |
in the same way that ascii's hunter finds that the deer walk up to him and lay down |
| 23:39 |
decimation |
mircea: re: "pretend-alodial" from your blog: the wikipedia is quite helpful on explaining the current situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple |
| 23:39 |
assbot |
Fee simple - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
| 23:39 |
decimation |
"In English law, a fee simple (or fee simple absolute) is an estate in land, a form of freehold ownership. It is the way that real estate is owned in common law countries, and is the highest ownership interest possible that can be had in real property. Allodial title is reserved to governments under a civil law structure" |
| 23:40 |
mircea_popescu |
why's that so helpful ? |
| 23:43 |
decimation |
it makes the situation plain as day: there is no allodial title outside the government |
| 23:43 |
decimation |
plenty of people in the west think that they 'own' their land |
| 23:45 |
decimation |
in Hawaii, there are six layers of bureaucracy from the state down to the county level, each of which is empowered to tell you what you can do with "your" land |
| 23:45 |
mircea_popescu |
sucks for hawaii |
| 23:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0420004 = 0.63 BTC [-] |
| 23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, fee tail used to exist, as the practical consequence of alodial title |
| 23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
it was phased out mostly at the owner's request. |
| 23:46 |
decimation |
Herr Walker has a new book review: http://www.fourmilab.ch/fourmilog/archives/2014-06/001521.html |
| 23:46 |
assbot |
Reading List: The Death of Money (Fourmilog: None Dare Call It Reason) |
| 23:48 |
decimation |
I imagine the arguments in court over long-lived estate's fee tails would be amusing |
| 23:48 |
mircea_popescu |
omfg the blue |
| 23:48 |
decimation |
browse in 'links' |
| 23:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34034 @ 0.00082246 = 27.9916 BTC [-] {4} |
| 23:52 |
decimation |
the author does agree with your earlier point about having 4% of your remaining assets: "Well, that's far from clear. The one thing one shouldn't do is assume the present system will persist until you're ready to retire, and invest your retirement savings entirely on the assumption nothing will change." |
| 23:52 |
decimation |
I'm surprised he hasn't got on the bitcoin bandwagon, he seems to be a likely suspect |
| 23:53 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe he doesn't want to advertise it, or maybe he ran off with who knows what braindamage on the topic |