00:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00097271 = 21.5942 BTC [-] |
00:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2899 @ 0.00097198 = 2.8178 BTC [-] |
00:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06698979 = 0.134 BTC [-] |
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00:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15501 @ 0.0009699 = 15.0344 BTC [-] |
00:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.02899999 = 0.174 BTC [-] {6} |
00:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.054 = 0.108 BTC [+] |
00:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.053999 = 0.216 BTC [-] |
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01:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00097357 = 2.726 BTC [+] |
01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
.d |
01:26 |
ozbot |
6.120 billion | Next Diff in 252 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.7964% in 1d 11h 32m 13s |
01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
The Wizard lives |
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01:42 |
Duffer1 |
!up ukyo |
01:42 |
assbot |
Voicing ukyo for 30 minutes. |
01:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.52565556 = 5.2566 BTC [+] {6} |
01:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18475 @ 0.00097395 = 17.9937 BTC [+] {2} |
01:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!up numerisTrade |
01:46 |
assbot |
Voicing numerisTrade for 30 minutes. |
01:47 |
numerisTrade |
thanks |
01:47 |
numerisTrade |
hi all, hi BingoBoingo |
01:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.52999999 = 2.65 BTC [+] {2} |
01:47 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: Welcome, what's up? |
01:47 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust assbot numerisTrade |
01:47 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user numerisTrade: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=numerisTrade | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=numerisTrade | Rated since: Thu Apr 3 07:04:18 2014 |
01:47 |
numerisTrade |
will authenticate in a minute |
01:48 |
BingoBoingo |
cool |
01:48 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: What sort of stuff do you do? |
01:49 |
numerisTrade |
gradually paving my way to bitcoin finance, currently starting with secured loans / repo transactions on small scale |
01:49 |
numerisTrade |
you might have a look at http://numeristrade.blogspot.com/p/products.html |
01:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0050905 = 0.5091 BTC [+] {4} |
01:51 |
numerisTrade |
any feedback would be very much appreciated |
01:52 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm a bit tipsy, but I'll take a look at it. |
01:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Wait TheRock is a thing? I made an account there once hoping to dump freexrp without a colonoscopy, but... seemed sketch |
01:54 |
numerisTrade |
well, I don't trust them with a lot of money, but everything seemed ok |
01:55 |
numerisTrade |
I had some technical issues once, the support reacted quickly |
01:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Well I guess since the second life thing they trade has been around, they probably function. It's just like they added support for crypto currencies while neglecting any sort of outreach. Also their limits seemed kind of crap when I tried them. |
02:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!up jordandotdev |
02:02 |
assbot |
Voicing jordandotdev for 30 minutes. |
02:14 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Ukyo |
02:14 |
assbot |
Voicing Ukyo for 30 minutes. |
02:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!up numerisTrade |
02:19 |
assbot |
Voicing numerisTrade for 30 minutes. |
02:19 |
numerisTrade |
thanks again |
02:21 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: You're welcome. Since the channel's quiet I'm trying to think about ways to give you level 2 with Assbot by trusting you that involve risk incurred on your part. |
02:21 |
BingoBoingo |
So you can self up |
02:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00097158 = 8.4527 BTC [-] |
02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: You lend right? |
02:23 |
numerisTrade |
trying to, yes |
02:23 |
* |
fluffypony stretches |
02:24 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: Pick a baseball game happening tomorrow |
02:24 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: borrowing when tipsy...? :-P |
02:24 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: No. |
02:24 |
numerisTrade |
I don't know anything about baseball |
02:24 |
numerisTrade |
I know only how baseball bat looks like |
02:25 |
fluffypony |
numerisTrade: that makes two of us |
02:25 |
fluffypony |
my knowledge of baseball comes from two weeks in St. Louis |
02:25 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: Well, since lending is about pricing risk I was going to suppose a challenge where you might price risk for trust |
02:25 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: The best place to get baseball knowledge |
02:25 |
fluffypony |
where all I had hammered into me was "Cardinals good, Pujols good" |
02:25 |
fluffypony |
"everyone else bad" |
02:26 |
BingoBoingo |
No, Pujols is washed up and Hollywood nao |
02:26 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: yeah this was in early 2010 |
02:26 |
BingoBoingo |
It's all about Yadier Molina now |
02:26 |
BingoBoingo |
I was In front of a classroom when Prince Albert betrayed us. |
02:27 |
numerisTrade |
maybe some other example? |
02:27 |
BingoBoingo |
A number of students were shaken the rest of the morning after I broke the news |
02:27 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: Well I was going to suppose something along the lines of: |
02:27 |
BingoBoingo |
1) You pick an event and outcome |
02:28 |
BingoBoingo |
2) I pick a price for the outcome |
02:28 |
BingoBoingo |
3) maybe we haggle a bit |
02:28 |
BingoBoingo |
4) we agree to an unescrowed bet. |
02:29 |
BingoBoingo |
5) If you win the bet you get coins and lended trust, or you lose and pay for trust for being a person of word in this matter |
02:31 |
numerisTrade |
ok, would you agree if we conducted this later on today? e.g. 2 p.m. GMT? |
02:33 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: I may not be awake then, but if I am I would still be amenable. |
02:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Since this is a kind of novel thing it may be best if we keep the stakes low at 0.01 BTC simply because unescrowed bets have such a poor history in BTC so far thanks to MNW |
02:36 |
numerisTrade |
I agree, as you might have noticed, I'm still quite small |
02:37 |
numerisTrade |
MNW? |
02:37 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: We are all small, this space is still small. I mean +m only happened Friday. |
02:37 |
numerisTrade |
I noticed :) |
02:37 |
BingoBoingo |
MNW was an episode in BTC history worth researching. |
02:38 |
BingoBoingo |
I'd also be open to considering sports where you might have the knowledge advantage provided you can specify a decent resolution source. |
02:42 |
numerisTrade |
ok, I'll prepare something. If you aren't on the channel then, I'll leave you a message, I'll be on the channel up till 21:00 GMT, or we'll meet tomorrow same time as today |
02:42 |
fluffypony |
MNW = Matthew N. Wright |
02:43 |
fluffypony |
a blight on the Bitcoin landscape |
02:43 |
HeySteve |
another scammer from old times? |
02:43 |
fluffypony |
HeySteve: not entirely |
02:43 |
fluffypony |
he had a bet that he lost |
02:43 |
numerisTrade |
fluffypony, yeah, googled him |
02:43 |
fluffypony |
and he didn't pay |
02:43 |
joecool |
Matthew N. Wright is a former Republican member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. |
02:44 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: My waking hours as well as my online hours can be rather unpredictable even for myself. If you can find and event and we can agree to it before it plays I'd be amenable. |
02:44 |
HeySteve |
ah that's bad form, a man honours his debts |
02:44 |
fluffypony |
joecool: lol |
02:45 |
BingoBoingo |
"ah that's bad form, a man honours his debts" and "assbot removes voice from Ukyo" Fortuitous? Maybe I am just drunk and dense? |
02:45 |
fluffypony |
lol |
02:46 |
numerisTrade |
ok, thanks |
02:47 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: What are your thoughts on this unescrowed bet as an entante that might establish a measure of trust? |
02:47 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: I like the idea |
02:47 |
fluffypony |
and the risk to both parties is minimal |
02:48 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Well, what if the newcoming party is especially new? |
02:48 |
numerisTrade |
:) |
02:48 |
fluffypony |
well we're talking about establishing a baseline |
02:48 |
fluffypony |
and the WOT will link the new party back to you |
02:48 |
fluffypony |
and the amount will surely be mentioned in the rating |
02:48 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Sure |
02:48 |
fluffypony |
which means the educated user won't trust way beyond that |
02:49 |
fluffypony |
until the baseline has moved |
02:49 |
fluffypony |
which happens over time |
02:50 |
BingoBoingo |
But on the matter of +m being a thing, isn't the person with L1 trust offering a chance at L2 trust taking a substantial risk |
02:50 |
BingoBoingo |
!up numerisTrade |
02:50 |
assbot |
Voicing numerisTrade for 30 minutes. |
02:51 |
fluffypony |
it depends |
02:51 |
fluffypony |
if the newcomer ends up being a scammer, for instance |
02:51 |
fluffypony |
will those scammed come back to you and say "I trusted X because you trusted them!" |
02:51 |
fluffypony |
or will they, BEFORE trading/borrowing/whatevering, come to you and say "why do you trust X?" |
02:52 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: I mean people can /ignore, but if the person who socially engineers trust for the purpose of spamming gets to self up, the only recourse is for the L1 to remove their trust or themselves be dropped |
02:52 |
fluffypony |
it seems to me that it should be the latter, but all too often it's the former |
02:52 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: agreed |
02:52 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Well coming and asking is the ony way a WoT works. |
02:52 |
fluffypony |
or even changing their rating to negative based on their observation of it |
02:52 |
HeySteve |
hey fluffypony, that reminds me, would you rate me for that deal we did? |
02:52 |
fluffypony |
HeySteve: sure |
02:53 |
HeySteve |
thanks you trusted me for about $500, I will return the favour |
02:53 |
fluffypony |
;;rate HeySteve 2 ~$500 ZAR interbank (EFT) transfer for my BTC/LTC, smooth like pineapple juice |
02:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00097414 = 7.1599 BTC [+] {2} |
02:53 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user HeySteve has been recorded. |
02:53 |
HeySteve |
heh pineapple juice |
02:54 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate numerisTrade 1 Trust offered on credit |
02:54 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user numerisTrade has been recorded. |
02:54 |
numerisTrade |
thank you! |
02:54 |
numerisTrade |
you are very generous |
02:55 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: Well I plan to remove/expire this loaned trust on Thursday unless we can find something to risk and establish a longer term lending of trust over. |
02:56 |
numerisTrade |
sure |
02:56 |
fluffypony |
what's interesting about WoT vs. something like BTCJam's profiles is that WoT makes the long-con substantially more difficult |
02:56 |
BingoBoingo |
numerisTrade: For the time in the interim I offer you the ability to self up so that you can answer questions on your lending venture and establish value with others or undertake some sort of risk to honor. |
02:57 |
fluffypony |
on BTCJam I see a LOT of people with "reputation" loans |
02:57 |
fluffypony |
they lend 5-10 times, various amounts |
02:57 |
fluffypony |
and because they've paid back they're considered trustworthy |
02:58 |
fluffypony |
but there's literally no other reason to trust them than they have a couple of months of not screwing anyone over |
02:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Reputation loans have always been a problem. |
02:58 |
* |
fluffypony nods |
02:58 |
numerisTrade |
;;ident |
02:58 |
gribble |
Nick 'numerisTrade', with hostmask 'numerisTrade!57ccf3c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.204.243.194', is identified as user 'numerisTrade', with GPG key id 3B5A64169734D48F, key fingerprint 8D77A1296B71AD54AD09F2FD3B5A64169734D48F, and bitcoin address None |
02:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Tradefortress was a horrible social engineering problem |
02:58 |
fluffypony |
yeah that was a mess |
02:59 |
HeySteve |
WoT is a deep system, very interesting |
03:00 |
BingoBoingo |
HeySteve: Honestly the biggest plus of bitcoin is that it compels WoT |
03:01 |
HeySteve |
yeah I'd say any kind of decentralised commerce needs such a system |
03:01 |
fluffypony |
I wonder if guys like that hoard their stash or end up living the high life for a few months before being broke? |
03:02 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Like MNW? In his case there is no way to know that he ever had a stash. |
03:02 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: I was thinking more like TF |
03:02 |
BingoBoingo |
http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/15/weev-talks-about-life-in-prison-and-his-plans-to-open-a-hedge-fund-tro-llc/ |
03:02 |
ozbot |
Weev Talks About Life In Prison And His Plans To Open A Hedge Fund, TRO LLC | TechCrunch |
03:02 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Still similar. |
03:06 |
BingoBoingo |
"Weev: One can abandon their citizenship in a tyranny for more reasonable shores. Thats about it. Three Felonies a Day is a great book explaining the commonplace reality of capricious indictments." |
03:07 |
BingoBoingo |
"They will not indict you because you are a bad operator. They will indict you because you are there. I overturned my verdict only because I am an asshole. " |
03:08 |
BingoBoingo |
!up eqx |
03:08 |
assbot |
Voicing eqx for 30 minutes. |
03:13 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: How's the wife? |
03:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Tell anyone new to fuck themselves recently? |
03:14 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: good, she's gone to gym already |
03:14 |
fluffypony |
hah |
03:14 |
fluffypony |
not since the last time someone insulted her |
03:14 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
03:15 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, this stuff has to be in the logs for future reference. I mean how old was the Trilema when she took the pic? |
03:15 |
fluffypony |
how old was the trilema? |
03:15 |
fluffypony |
*blank* |
03:17 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: You remember the title better than I... ;;google title |
03:17 |
fluffypony |
aaah I see what you mean |
03:17 |
fluffypony |
from a year ago |
03:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah |
03:17 |
fluffypony |
although I didn't know of its existence till it was pointed out |
03:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Exactly. |
03:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Finding the important stuff takes time. |
03:18 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
03:18 |
fluffypony |
maybe mircea should email people he blogs about so that they know |
03:18 |
fluffypony |
or there could be an alert service |
03:18 |
fluffypony |
:-p |
03:19 |
fluffypony |
"You've been Trilema'd!" |
03:19 |
BingoBoingo |
You'd be surprised how quickly Mircea found my blog once I'd opened it and it had been months since I had been a regular in -assets |
03:21 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: It took mere hours http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/09/24/hope-you-had-a-happy-blood-day/#comment-17 |
03:21 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: maybe he has a Google alert notification for his name? |
03:21 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: He dun google |
03:22 |
fluffypony |
DuckDuckGo, then |
03:24 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: your site down? |
03:25 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: No, just... not optimally fast |
03:25 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: my nick / name wasn't mentioned on the post, except in the screenshot of the thread, so discovery would've been tricky |
03:25 |
joecool |
BingoBoingo: only been waiting like 30s for it to load |
03:26 |
joecool |
and counting :-\ |
03:26 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: That is concerning... |
03:26 |
fluffypony |
joecool: it loaded quickly for me? |
03:26 |
BingoBoingo |
It has been slow this past hour or so on the control panel, but the web side was responsive. |
03:26 |
fluffypony |
oh now it isn't |
03:27 |
fluffypony |
she's broken BingoBoingo :( |
03:28 |
* |
BingoBoingo fills out a support ticket and awaits bitcoin prices that can support a 1U server rack from endowment funds. |
03:34 |
jurov |
fluffypony: you know about rss ? |
03:34 |
fluffypony |
jurov: yes, but I didn't have Trilema in my feeds a year ago |
03:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.0051 = 1.02 BTC [+] |
03:44 |
BingoBoingo |
Support ticket filed. |
03:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Incense lit. |
03:52 |
BingoBoingo |
May BTC appreciate enough in the next year that one of these and colo be covered by the endowment http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101836 |
03:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Also blog seems very responsive nao that ticket was filed |
03:54 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26414 @ 0.00097416 = 25.7315 BTC [+] |
03:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Sleep mode |
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04:15 |
bounce |
america not democratic, say princeton boffins: https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/14 |
04:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00097418 = 22.1626 BTC [+] {2} |
04:36 |
dignork |
bounce: good read on US democracy, probably was menation here before: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/gentle-introduction-to-unqualified.html |
04:36 |
dignork |
*mentioned |
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05:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0286 = 0.1144 BTC [-] |
05:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1300 @ 0.00016026 = 0.2083 BTC [-] {11} |
05:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1200 @ 0.00010118 = 0.1214 BTC [-] {5} |
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06:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.0051 = 0.4641 BTC [+] |
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06:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.00097153 = 30.0689 BTC [-] {2} |
07:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.0009761 = 17.1794 BTC [+] {2} |
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07:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC |
07:43 |
mircea_popescu |
hey how the hell is rithm voiced! scam! |
07:44 |
pankkake |
John K back again |
07:44 |
mircea_popescu |
4th time ? |
07:46 |
mircea_popescu |
okay so just in case... anyone got a current contact for weev ? |
07:48 |
dub |
visit him in jail with a message stowed in your anus |
07:49 |
fluffypony |
he's out of jail atm? |
07:51 |
dub |
oh, then write it on a hotdog and throw it up the hallway that was his ass |
07:53 |
mircea_popescu |
dub scamconviction got vacated yo |
07:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05250221 = 0.105 BTC [-] |
07:56 |
fluffypony |
http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702303663604579504691512965308-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwNTExNDUyWj |
07:56 |
ozbot |
Mt. Gox Files for Liquidation - WSJ.com |
07:59 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.cso.com.au/article/534795/_pgp_encryption_has_had_stay-powering_does_it_meet_today_enterprise_demands_/ |
07:59 |
ozbot |
'PGP' encryption has had stay-powering but does it meet today's enterprise demands? - CSO | The Reso |
07:59 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform ^ :D |
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08:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 173 @ 0.00511054 = 0.8841 BTC [-] {6} |
08:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.51000242 BTC [-] |
08:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.51000148 = 1.53 BTC [-] {3} |
08:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02862602 = 0.2863 BTC [-] {6} |
08:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.05391665 = 0.3235 BTC [+] {5} |
08:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.51 = 2.04 BTC [-] |
08:48 |
pankkake |
http://www.coindesk.com/inside-offshore-vault-gold-trades-bitcoin/ |
08:49 |
pankkake |
didn't even know BullionRock existed |
08:50 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake earlier this small island in the channel said it won't impose regulations |
08:50 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno how far i'd trust them to stick with it, but so far it's been encouraging people. |
08:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0660001 = 0.528 BTC [-] {2} |
08:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.066 = 1.782 BTC [-] |
09:06 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Assembly is such a wise ass. Its like yah dude I know the deal, I'm in here eryday |
09:07 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Assbot* |
09:07 |
fluffypony |
assbot is amazing! |
09:07 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
09:19 |
pankkake |
http://blog.oleganza.com/post/82878104033/bitundo-can-destroy-instant-0-confirmation-transactions |
09:19 |
ozbot |
Oleg Andreev - BitUndo can destroy instant 0-confirmation transactions |
09:21 |
thestringpuller |
$depth mpoe |
09:21 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['1599 @ 0.00097149', '15602 @ 0.00096589', '7100 @ 0.00095965', '9100 @ 0.00095903', '1000 @ 0.00095001'] |
09:21 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: Asks: ['23988 @ 0.00097649', '18750 @ 0.00097667', '3846 @ 0.0009779', '19450 @ 0.00097963', '24900 @ 0.00098016'] |
09:28 |
numerisTrade |
hello |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
09:46 |
fluffypony |
numerisTrade: ¡ola! |
09:46 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: pgp article << what kind of dope do i need to smoke for this one to make sense ?? |
09:46 |
numerisTrade |
yes, fluffypony? |
09:47 |
fluffypony |
numerisTrade: just saying hello :) |
09:47 |
fluffypony |
asciilifeform: managementthink |
09:48 |
numerisTrade |
¡ola!, fluffypony :) |
09:52 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: weev article << 'TRO LLC (yes, the troll corporation), based in generating actionable financial intelligence from the computer underground. The primary strategy will be short equities' << poor sod, sits in usa, waits for nailgun. |
09:53 |
nubbins` |
"does PGP public-key encryption still meet today's enterprise demands, given the rise of cloud computing and mobile?" |
09:53 |
nubbins` |
"does encryption still make sense, now that we're looser than ever with our sensitive data?" |
09:53 |
asciilifeform |
meet today's enterprise demands << only ROT-13 can possibly meet demands! |
09:54 |
nubbins` |
too complicated, can't we just share all this stuff on the network drive? |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
!up davout |
09:58 |
assbot |
Voicing davout for 30 minutes. |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
!up Kushedout |
09:58 |
assbot |
Voicing Kushedout for 30 minutes. |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
!up numerisTrade |
09:58 |
assbot |
Voicing numerisTrade without time-limit. |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
!up MobGod |
09:58 |
assbot |
Voicing MobGod for 30 minutes. |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
!up dr3 |
09:58 |
assbot |
Voicing dr3 for 30 minutes. |
09:59 |
nubbins` |
!up smidge |
09:59 |
assbot |
Voicing smidge for 30 minutes. |
09:59 |
nubbins` |
!up zoinky |
09:59 |
assbot |
Voicing zoinky for 30 minutes. |
09:59 |
davout |
nubbins`: wanna light some jasmine candles and talk about our feelings? |
09:59 |
nubbins` |
only if they're thin and green |
10:00 |
nubbins` |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iels3GLw-zs |
10:00 |
ozbot |
Leonard Cohen-one of us cannot be wrong (original) - YouTube |
10:00 |
zoinky |
30 minutes wooo |
10:01 |
dR3 |
wooo |
10:01 |
nubbins` |
for that matter: |
10:01 |
nubbins` |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCtyvobvrIM |
10:01 |
ozbot |
Lagwagon Let's Talk About Feelings (full album) - YouTube |
10:01 |
dR3 |
merci |
10:02 |
nubbins` |
hmm, Voicing numerisTrade without time-limit? |
10:02 |
nubbins` |
;;gettrust assbot numerisTrade |
10:02 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask numerisTrade!~numeris@87-207-88-238.dynamic.chello.pl. Trust relationship from user assbot to user numerisTrade: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=numerisTrade | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=numerisTrade | Rated since: Thu Apr 3 07:04:18 2014 |
10:02 |
nubbins` |
ah, look at that |
10:04 |
numerisTrade |
I was wondering why are you voicing me. I mean, that's kind of you, but... |
10:04 |
nubbins` |
...unnecessary? :D |
10:04 |
nubbins` |
i just upped everyone who's joined since i did ;( |
10:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1599 @ 0.00097149 = 1.5534 BTC [-] |
10:06 |
numerisTrade |
:) |
10:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.05399999 = 0.918 BTC [+] {4} |
10:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18384 @ 0.00097133 = 17.8569 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
10:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80741 @ 0.00096747 = 78.1145 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
11:06 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I'm just beginning to read the mathew n Wright forum. Anyone want to give me a summary of the ending first? |
11:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 48 @ 0.0075 = 0.36 BTC [+] |
11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1950 @ 0.00013991 = 0.2728 BTC [-] {10} |
11:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4305 @ 0.0001162 = 0.5002 BTC [-] {7} |
11:19 |
jurov |
..lived happily ever after. |
11:26 |
bounce |
... the butler did it |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
11:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52984286 BTC [+] |
11:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.52990032 = 1.0598 BTC [+] {2} |
11:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00554509 = 0.2495 BTC [-] |
11:50 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Thanks guys... |
11:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00554489 = 0.1608 BTC [-] |
11:50 |
Duffer1 |
sorry man that all was before my time, not sure what all happened |
11:55 |
TomServo |
He didn't pay, if I recall correctly |
11:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC |
11:57 |
TomServo |
!up mjr_ |
11:57 |
assbot |
Voicing mjr_ for 30 minutes. |
11:57 |
mjr_ |
thanks? |
11:57 |
* |
rithm is wiggling his ass to https://soundcloud.com/gramatik/02-gramatik-torture-feat |
11:57 |
rithm |
did i break your chats with mursiks |
12:00 |
TomServo |
TestingUnoDosTre: 9 September 2012 Matthew Neal Wright (mentioned above) had been offering interested parties bets on whether the Bitcoin Savings and Trust will fail or not. Numerous people took the bet, MNW failed to pay out when the collapse of that Ponzi scheme became fact. Consequently scammertagged in the forum. |
12:00 |
TomServo |
http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ was the source for that |
12:00 |
ozbot |
The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 90 @ 0.0075 = 0.675 BTC [+] |
12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.46002048 BTC to 8`421 shares, 41088 satoshi per share |
12:02 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
So he didn't pay it all out, or he did pay some? |
12:03 |
TomServo |
I don't believe he paid at all |
12:11 |
rithm |
MNW paid some people privately |
12:11 |
rithm |
and others not at all |
12:12 |
rithm |
i used to think he paid no one but I've since learned differently |
12:12 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Not sure if best or worst scam in entire history of bitcoin... |
12:12 |
rithm |
why he still hangs around though i dunno he's juvenile |
12:12 |
rithm |
sortof like micon |
12:12 |
rithm |
foum is full of them |
12:12 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Doesn't look like he has a scammer tag any more |
12:13 |
rithm |
does a scammer tag on the forum have nay relevance at all? |
12:13 |
rithm |
i mean what does it mean? |
12:13 |
rithm |
is theymos a scammer? |
12:13 |
rithm |
sorry, i mean thermos, he goes by thermos now |
12:14 |
* |
rithm is just curious what the actual real world consequences of a bitcointalk.org scammer tag are |
12:15 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I believe they stopped using them officially |
12:16 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
But some obvious people are still tagged- ie nefario, pirateat40 |
12:16 |
rithm |
yes, and now there is some half assed trust system |
12:16 |
rithm |
which is broken because you have no way to idetify the person you communicate with on that forum |
12:17 |
rithm |
unless you start gpg signing pm's and posts |
12:17 |
rithm |
https://coinstax.com/product-detail/6/ |
12:17 |
ozbot |
CoinStax – 1 oz. Perth Mint Gold Bars (25 count Box) |
12:17 |
rithm |
but this though |
12:18 |
rithm |
;;calc 33678.50/[tlast] |
12:18 |
gribble |
65.3951456311 |
12:19 |
benkay |
;;gettrust mjr |
12:19 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mjr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mjr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mjr | Rated since: never |
12:20 |
benkay |
;;gettrust mjr_ |
12:20 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mjr_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mjr_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mjr_ | Rated since: never |
12:20 |
benkay |
mjr_: you're not in the wot!? |
12:20 |
benkay |
;;rate TomServo 1 #bitcoin-assets +v |
12:20 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user TomServo has been recorded. |
12:20 |
benkay |
;;gettrust phf |
12:20 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask phf!~phf@unaffiliated/phf. Trust relationship from user benkay to user phf: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=phf | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=phf | Rated since: Thu Jan 2 22:27:02 2014 |
12:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.02987944 = 0.5378 BTC [+] {2} |
12:23 |
pankkake |
;;gettrust assbot theymos |
12:23 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user theymos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=theymos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=theymos | Rated since: Mon Nov 8 13:36:30 2010 |
12:26 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust numerisTrade |
12:26 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask numerisTrade!~numeris@87-207-88-238.dynamic.chello.pl. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user numerisTrade: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=numerisTrade | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=numerisTrade | Rated since: Thu Apr 3 07:04:18 2014 |
12:27 |
mjr_ |
i am in the WoT |
12:27 |
mjr_ |
but I think you have to look up by my name |
12:27 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust assbot mjr |
12:27 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mjr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mjr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mjr | Rated since: never |
12:28 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mjr_ |
12:28 |
assbot |
Voicing mjr_ for 30 minutes. |
12:28 |
mjr_ |
;gettrust benkay |
12:28 |
mjr_ |
;;gettrust benkay |
12:28 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net. Trust relationship from user mjr_ to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mjr_&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 |
12:28 |
mjr_ |
hmmm |
12:28 |
mjr_ |
I believe in the WoT I am Josh_Rossi or JoshRossi |
12:29 |
pankkake |
;;gpg info Josh_Rossi |
12:29 |
gribble |
User 'Josh_Rossi', with keyid C286BB96FE9B6CD3, fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX, registered on Sat Mar 9 18:38:35 2013, last authed on Sat May 11 08:47:37 2013. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=Josh_Rossi . Currently not authenticated. |
12:30 |
mjr_ |
yep |
12:30 |
jurov |
ôôident mjr_ |
12:30 |
mjr_ |
that's me |
12:30 |
jurov |
;;ident mjr_ |
12:30 |
gribble |
Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'mjr_!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186', is not identified. |
12:30 |
mjr_ |
hold on a sec, i will identify |
12:31 |
mjr_ |
if i can remember how |
12:31 |
mjr_ |
;;help |
12:31 |
gribble |
The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ |
12:31 |
mjr_ |
what is the command? |
12:31 |
mjr_ |
;;authenticate |
12:31 |
gribble |
Error: "authenticate" is not a valid command. |
12:32 |
mjr_ |
;;ident |
12:32 |
gribble |
Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'mjr_!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186', is not identified. |
12:32 |
artifexd |
You can do all that in a pm channel with gribble. |
12:32 |
mjr_ |
k thanks |
12:32 |
artifexd |
It would prevent flailing about in public. ;) |
12:32 |
mjr_ |
lol |
12:32 |
mjr_ |
what is the command again? |
12:32 |
bounce |
a choice of auth, eauth, bcauth |
12:34 |
benkay |
artifexd: you're no fun! |
12:35 |
mjr_ |
lol, don't worry still have trouble |
12:35 |
mjr_ |
its a pastebin, right? |
12:35 |
benkay |
eauth Josh_Rossi |
12:35 |
benkay |
<decrpyt> |
12:35 |
mjr_ |
what is gribble expecting for the verify part |
12:35 |
benkay |
everify <decrypted otp> |
12:35 |
mjr_ |
a url? |
12:35 |
mjr_ |
ah ok |
12:36 |
benkay |
;;gettrust phf |
12:36 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask phf!~phf@unaffiliated/phf. Trust relationship from user benkay to user phf: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=phf | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=phf | Rated since: Thu Jan 2 22:27:02 2014 |
12:43 |
mjr_ |
;;idet |
12:43 |
gribble |
Error: "idet" is not a valid command. |
12:43 |
mjr_ |
;;ident |
| |
↖ |
12:43 |
gribble |
CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'mjr_', with hostmask 'mjr_!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186', is identified as user 'Josh_Rossi', with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX |
12:43 |
mjr_ |
now i'm identified, that is my WoT name |
12:43 |
artifexd |
;;gettrust assbot Josh_Rossi |
12:43 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask mjr_!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Josh_Rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Josh_Rossi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Josh_Rossi | Rated since: never |
12:44 |
mjr_ |
yeah...no one ever rates me |
12:44 |
davout |
;;rate mjr_ 1 nice guy |
12:44 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
12:44 |
mjr_ |
thanks davout |
12:44 |
davout |
;;rate Josh_Rossi 1 nice guy |
12:44 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Josh_Rossi has been recorded. |
12:44 |
davout |
here you go |
12:44 |
mjr_ |
woohoo |
12:44 |
artifexd |
;;gettrust assbot Josh_Rossi |
12:44 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask mjr_!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Josh_Rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Josh_Rossi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Josh_Rossi | Rated since: Wed Apr 16 12:44:36 2014 |
12:45 |
artifexd |
There ya go. |
12:45 |
mjr_ |
awesome |
12:45 |
artifexd |
Now if your nick matches your wot, you can pm assbot and !up yourself. |
12:45 |
mjr_ |
I used to have a script that would authenticate me when i sign in |
12:45 |
benkay |
;;gettrust mjr |
12:45 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mjr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mjr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mjr | Rated since: never |
12:45 |
benkay |
;;gettrust mjr_ |
12:45 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mjr_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mjr_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mjr_ | Rated since: never |
12:45 |
benkay |
;;gettrust Josh_Rossi |
12:45 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask mjr_!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Josh_Rossi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Josh_Rossi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Josh_Rossi | Rated since: Wed Apr 16 12:44:36 2014 |
12:46 |
Josh_Rossi |
does that make the warning go away? |
12:46 |
Josh_Rossi |
;;ident |
12:46 |
gribble |
Nick 'Josh_Rossi', with hostmask 'Josh_Rossi!~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186', is identified as user 'Josh_Rossi', with GPG key id C286BB96FE9B6CD3, key fingerprint 3812AFD43A6B8A057F37D858C286BB96FE9B6CD3, and bitcoin address 1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX |
12:46 |
benkay |
;;rate Josh_Rossi 1 |
12:46 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Josh_Rossi has been recorded. |
12:46 |
Josh_Rossi |
i'm not even sure if i still have that btc address... |
12:48 |
Josh_Rossi |
;;rate davout 1 |
12:48 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded. |
12:48 |
Josh_Rossi |
;;rate benkay 1 |
12:48 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded. |
12:49 |
benkay |
thanks, boss |
12:49 |
mjr_ |
lol |
12:49 |
mjr_ |
I have almost no standing in the WoT |
12:49 |
mjr_ |
but I don't actually ask for stuff...so I guess its ok |
12:53 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Hey i need to speak with a bitbet mod |
| |
↖ |
12:53 |
jurov |
;;rate mjr_ 1 satoshi square |
12:53 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
12:54 |
jurov |
;;rate Josh_Rossi 1 satoshi square |
12:54 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Josh_Rossi has been recorded. |
12:54 |
bounce |
donald rumsfeld complaining the tax code is too complex. what'd he try and do about it when he had the chance? |
12:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.53180969 BTC [+] |
12:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 323 @ 0.14 = 45.22 BTC |
13:02 |
kakobrekla |
hmmm |
13:02 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I just got robbed on a bet close to the timeline |
13:02 |
kakobrekla |
this aint right. |
13:04 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I had a bet submitted with 1 confirmation before event occured, and they're trying to refund me |
13:05 |
kakobrekla |
who? |
13:06 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
What do you mean who? |
13:06 |
benkay |
;;rate phf 2 lisper |
13:06 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user phf has been recorded. |
13:06 |
pankkake |
https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/447344144315211776/photo/1 |
13:06 |
kakobrekla |
wtf is with the log. |
13:07 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
What's wrong |
13:08 |
kakobrekla |
i dont know seems fine no |
13:08 |
kakobrekla |
w |
13:08 |
kakobrekla |
its prolly me. |
13:10 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Alright kako- do you know people in charge or bitbet? |
13:11 |
mjr_ |
does that work? |
13:11 |
kakobrekla |
TestingUnoDosTre i might |
13:11 |
mjr_ |
what happened to the options on mpex? |
13:11 |
kakobrekla |
you got a few months of lag? |
13:12 |
Duffer1 |
hehe |
13:12 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I submitted a bet that had 1 confirmation prior to bitstamp going to 525and they're trying to refund |
13:12 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Price still coulda tanked |
13:12 |
Duffer1 |
you're getting a refund? |
13:12 |
kakobrekla |
is the timestamp of your bet on bitbet after the event or before? |
13:13 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I can double check, but I'm pretty sure before |
13:13 |
kakobrekla |
well check then |
13:14 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Double check |
13:23 |
BingoBoingo |
.d |
13:23 |
ozbot |
6.120 billion | Next Diff in 177 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.1257% in 1d 1h 34m 48s |
13:24 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Yes. Crossed over at 23:29. Bet time on bitbet 23:20 |
13:24 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg2zig1-minzczsg2014-04-15zeg2014-04-16ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv |
13:25 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell mircea_popescu complaint ^^ |
13:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:25 |
kakobrekla |
fixd |
13:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC |
13:31 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
They're gonna pay everybody though. Says resolved! |
13:32 |
bitcoinpete |
benkay: "aristocracy" works like as well as ever. Also, very much enjoyed your recourse piece :D |
13:33 |
bitcoinpete |
http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/ex-post-toronto-bitcoin-expo/ |
13:33 |
ozbot |
Ex-Post: Toronto Bitcoin Expo | When Bitcoin Met Pete |
13:34 |
kakobrekla |
TestingUnoDosTre was it paid already? |
13:35 |
kakobrekla |
oh and btw, since im the first, greetings from Romania. |
13:37 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
They just paid it... |
13:37 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Like literally just after I told you |
13:38 |
kakobrekla |
TestingUnoDosTre, wait for mp to return |
13:38 |
kakobrekla |
;;seen mircea_popescu |
13:38 |
gribble |
mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i dunno how far i'd trust them to stick with it, but so far it's been encouraging people. |
13:39 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
My apologies... gotta settle down a little |
13:39 |
fluffypony |
bitcoinpete: so when are they launching their decentralised iOS exchange? |
13:39 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
13:39 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Do they have an email, or how do I contact? |
13:40 |
bitcoinpete |
fluffypony: lol it's sitll in "pre-alpha" |
13:40 |
bitcoinpete |
still* |
13:40 |
fluffypony |
I look forward to running it, as long as I can invest in the "company" behind it with BitShares or ProtoShares or whatever-the-fuck-shares |
13:40 |
bitcoinpete |
kakobrekla: have fun at the conference! i hope to make it next year |
13:40 |
kakobrekla |
TestingUnoDosTre, here is a hint : http://mpex.co/ |
13:40 |
kakobrekla |
eh |
13:41 |
kakobrekla |
i meant http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.BBET |
13:41 |
kakobrekla |
thanks bitcoinpete, already having fun. |
13:41 |
Apocalyptic |
kakobrekla, you're the first that arrived ? |
13:42 |
fluffypony |
I should actually write a Dogecoin-denominated trading site and only allow companies that are clearly a joke |
13:42 |
fluffypony |
I'll call it DogecoinBourse |
13:42 |
kakobrekla |
Apocalyptic yes, noone will be here till tomorrow |
13:42 |
TomServo |
How many are supposed to attend this year? |
13:42 |
kakobrekla |
no clue |
13:42 |
bitcoinpete |
kakobrekla: drink a few ursus' and eat a few mititei for us. it's a deadly combo |
13:42 |
kakobrekla |
at least 2 |
13:43 |
Apocalyptic |
jurov and asciilifeform are attending i think |
13:43 |
kakobrekla |
heh, you want to kill my stomach ? :) |
13:44 |
kakobrekla |
right now im in the hotel bar, sipping a double jack. |
13:44 |
TomServo |
very nice. |
13:45 |
kakobrekla |
20:45.05 . numerisTrade ( ~numeris@unaffiliated/numeristrade ) joined #bitcoin-assets |
13:45 |
kakobrekla |
20:45.05 . sendak.freenode.net sets #bitcoin-assets mode +v numerisTrade |
13:45 |
kakobrekla |
20:45.05 . ChanServ sets #bitcoin-assets mode -v numerisTrade |
13:45 |
kakobrekla |
lol. |
13:45 |
kakobrekla |
has this been a regular occurance? |
13:47 |
TomServo |
Not that I've noticed. |
13:52 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Kako, you're the owner of bbet? |
13:52 |
TomServo |
heh |
13:52 |
kakobrekla |
TestingUnoDosTre halfassed. |
13:52 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Help a brotha out. I'm making my living off your website |
13:52 |
kakobrekla |
:o |
13:52 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Running on thin margins |
13:53 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, as i said, complaints to go to MP |
13:53 |
kakobrekla |
wait for him to return |
13:55 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Complaints to the billionaire,? |
13:56 |
kakobrekla |
ofc. |
14:00 |
thestringpuller |
$depth mpoe |
14:00 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['1000 @ 0.00095001', '1000 @ 0.00094501', '450 @ 0.00082', '4000 @ 0.0008101', '3000 @ 0.00081'] |
14:00 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: Asks: ['8459 @ 0.00096466', '14441 @ 0.00097133', '14600 @ 0.00097259', '18750 @ 0.00097667', '19450 @ 0.00097963'] |
14:02 |
bitcoinpete |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/16/mtgox_requests_liquidation/ |
14:03 |
bitcoinpete |
the register has been reading -assets. ^borkt |
14:04 |
fluffypony |
lol |
14:06 |
wywialm |
hi all |
14:06 |
fluffypony |
I used to love TheRegister when it was this slightly obscure British publication that was the only way of following the BOFH saga |
14:06 |
pankkake |
oh I loved BOFH! |
14:06 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: the newer stuff got boring |
14:07 |
fluffypony |
but like pre-2005 BOFH is still golden |
14:07 |
Naphex |
evening |
14:09 |
fluffypony |
pankkake: most recent episode - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/21/bofh_2014_episode_3/ |
14:09 |
bounce |
stopped reading that years ago. the old stuff was good, though. |
14:10 |
bounce |
bofh used to be on whatwasit networkworld? only came to el reg later |
14:11 |
fluffypony |
bounce: yeah, went to El Reg for its "revival" |
14:11 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Why do you think they've been reading assets? Found no quotes UN artcke? |
14:11 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
In article. Fucking auto correct |
14:11 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/04/15/this-reader-mocked-heartbleed-by-posting-his-passwords-online-youll-never-guess-what-happened-next/ |
14:11 |
ozbot |
This reader mocked Heartbleed, posted his passwords online. Guess what happened next. |
14:12 |
wywialm |
bitcoinpete, some time ago i tried to discuss your deflation artice with you, do you have a while? |
14:12 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: shoot. what's on your mind? |
14:13 |
wywialm |
do you believe there may be bad deflation? or good inflation? |
14:13 |
bounce |
that pdf waffles like the fat frenchman wrote it |
14:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06690987 = 0.1338 BTC [+] |
14:13 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: "hacked" by some obscure definition of hacked we weren't previously privy to |
14:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure |
14:15 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: as hamlet said: “there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." |
14:16 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
For the record, bitcoin is inflating at a rapidly decreasing, defined rate |
14:17 |
bitcoinpete |
no doubt that a lot of people will be screwed out of pensions and other lofty promises, also little doubt that faux egalitarianism will fall by the wayside |
14:17 |
bitcoinpete |
TestingUnoDosTre: totally. it's the first deterministically scarce asset with a decreasing inflation rate |
14:18 |
bitcoinpete |
it's really fiat that's collapsing unpredictably into bitcoin |
14:19 |
wywialm |
ok, to be precise: do you believe there are circumstances in which deflation would do unnecessary harm to the economy, its net effects being negative? |
14:20 |
wywialm |
in the same way we could call some forms of governments net negative on the economy |
14:20 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Not with a truly fungible asset |
14:21 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: i see the nets being positive |
14:21 |
wywialm |
to be even more precise, by inflation i mean rising *price level*, not plain money growth |
14:21 |
bitcoinpete |
and the harm as being entirely necessary |
14:22 |
Apocalyptic |
wywialm, you're using the perverted meaning of inflation I see |
14:22 |
bitcoinpete |
right, the price of goods and services is decreasing despite the monetary base increasing |
14:22 |
wywialm |
clearly that's the message of your article, bitcoinpete. I'm asking whether it is "always and everywhere" |
14:23 |
wywialm |
Apocalyptic, no, it's a standard definition, contrary to late Mises and Rothbard, and avoids much confusion |
14:24 |
bitcoinpete |
wy |
14:24 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: history would seem to say so. we'll see whether it rhymes this time 'round |
14:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 350 @ 0.14 = 49 BTC |
14:26 |
wywialm |
to be even more clear, i generally agree with you that under normal conditions of rising productivity, moderate deflation is very desirable |
14:26 |
bitcoinpete |
bitcoin and gold are checks on tyrannical mobs |
14:27 |
mod6 |
(10:01) <+pankkake> oh I loved BOFH! << me too, the old ones are best imho. |
14:27 |
wywialm |
sure, but that's fiscal effect of both. i try to focus on monetary effects |
14:28 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: monetary effects don't exist in isolation. nothing does. and least of all in economics |
14:28 |
Apocalyptic |
wywialm, not really, the standard definition is the increase of the money supply, or monetary base |
14:29 |
bitcoinpete |
we can't say that increasing x is desirable because it correlates to increased y without considering the social and political impacts |
14:29 |
benkay |
bitcoinpete: "whatever is is right" to quote another poet. |
14:30 |
wywialm |
bitcoinpete, we try to abstract from them now. Without this tool no economic analysis would be possible |
14:30 |
benkay |
;;gettrust wywialm |
14:30 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask wywialm!~wywialm@87-207-88-238.dynamic.chello.pl. Trust relationship from user benkay to user wywialm: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=wywialm | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wywialm | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 11:18:52 2014 |
14:31 |
benkay |
good bad who cares bitcoin is here to kick the ass of anyone who wants to diddle the number of currency units around |
14:31 |
kakobrekla |
bad is good |
14:31 |
bitcoinpete |
benkay yup, pretty much. it's skill-gettin' time |
14:32 |
wywialm |
Apocalyptic, when did this term get 'perverted' and why would it be an argument against defining it that way? |
14:33 |
wywialm |
benkay :) |
14:36 |
numerisTrade |
bitcoinpete, would then *steadily shrinking* currency unharmful as well? |
14:37 |
wywialm |
good point |
14:45 |
bitcoinpete |
numerisTrade: i imagine that a currency whose supply is decreasing over time wouldn't make for a very good currency. an example of this would be the picassos in the world today. over time, they're lost to fires, floods, irreparable damage, etc. as such, no one defines picassos as currency just as no one sane defines bitcoin as money |
14:46 |
numerisTrade |
ok |
14:48 |
numerisTrade |
wait, bitcoin is not money only in current legal sense |
14:48 |
jurov |
https://lobste.rs/s/3utipo/openbsd_has_started_a_massive_strip-down_and_cleanup_of_openssl |
14:48 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Gunna subconsciously call bitcoins Picasso's now every time I check my portfolio |
14:48 |
ozbot |
OpenBSD has started a massive strip-down and cleanup of OpenSSL | Lobsters |
14:48 |
jurov |
"they’re incinerating compatibility with upstream with a plasma torch" lol |
14:49 |
wywialm |
well, bitcoin is medium of exchange, you can play with definitions as you wish, but it won't help with understanding anything |
14:50 |
bitcoinpete |
numerisTrade: the irs' ruling of bitcoin as property is actually quite accurate and intelligent. bitcoin is far more like property overlooking central park than the dollars in our pockets |
14:50 |
bitcoinpete |
TestingUnoDosTre: might as well :D |
14:51 |
numerisTrade |
and bitcoins will reach a point when they will be decreasing, due to losses and so on |
14:52 |
jurov |
i guess eiteher they will be mined or some protocol to recover 100 years untouched outputs will be agreed upon |
14:52 |
jurov |
unlike picassos, here it is possible |
14:53 |
wywialm |
bitcoinpete, legalistically, yes, but property and land could be money in economic terms |
14:54 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: so can a barrel of oil. so can a chicken. so... |
14:54 |
bitcoinpete |
jurov: good point, hadn't thought of that. oh the wonders of software |
14:55 |
thestringpuller |
$depth mpoe |
14:55 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['11090 @ 0.00095019', '1000 @ 0.00095001', '1000 @ 0.00094501', '450 @ 0.00082', '4000 @ 0.0008101'] |
14:55 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: Asks: ['8459 @ 0.00096466', '14441 @ 0.00097133', '14600 @ 0.00097259', '18750 @ 0.00097667', '19450 @ 0.00097963'] |
14:55 |
wywialm |
so we could analyse economic impact of bitcoin being money, either now or some time later |
14:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0668 = 0.1336 BTC [-] |
14:56 |
Apocalyptic |
some protocol to recover 100 years untouched outputs will be agreed upon // unlikely |
14:56 |
Apocalyptic |
and I hope it doesn't happen |
14:56 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Agreed |
14:56 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Double agree |
14:57 |
jurov |
Apocalyptic: why not? |
14:57 |
jurov |
it would be just a simple rule that miner can take 5 million blocks old unspent output(s). |
14:58 |
pankkake |
it's a slippery slope |
14:58 |
jurov |
and there will be muich bigger changes necessary much sooner than 100 years, you really think SHA-256 will resist so long? |
15:00 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
There will be, an adequate replacement in 100 years |
15:00 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
And its not like bitcoin owners won't be able to transfer value to said systems |
15:00 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
A la shitcoins, but better |
15:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC |
15:01 |
jurov |
In fact I think having shorter delay, like 5 years would force criminals to spend, benefitting everyone |
15:01 |
Apocalyptic |
... what nonsense is this |
15:02 |
Apocalyptic |
jurov, really the criminal argument coming from you ? |
15:02 |
pankkake |
bitcoin could work with md4. the goal is to brute force it, so it doesn't matter how broken it is |
15:02 |
jurov |
what's so shocking? |
15:02 |
asciilifeform |
;;google satcoin |
15:02 |
gribble |
SAT solving - An alternative to brute force bitcoin mining: <http://jheusser.github.io/2013/02/03/satcoin.html>; [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - One of the most fast and secure coins ...: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=441760.0>; jheusser/satcoin · GitHub: <https://github.com/jheusser/satcoin> |
15:02 |
Apocalyptic |
SHA-256 will resist so long? // even if a full 1 block colision is found, it won't affect mining |
15:03 |
wywialm |
jurov, do you believe spending of criminals will benefit the economy?:) |
15:03 |
asciilifeform |
nah, only the money of saints benefits economy |
15:03 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
15:03 |
Apocalyptic |
must be |
15:04 |
wywialm |
i happen to agree with you, especially considering bitcoin deflation argument, but if so, wouldn't e.g. printed-money-spending benefit economy as well in some cases? |
15:05 |
jurov |
i think it's more about stability of money supply |
15:05 |
jurov |
can you imagine someone hoarding and after 10 years throwing in few millions btc |
15:05 |
wywialm |
so, withholding money from circulation might have similar effects (and we believe them to be negative) as coin loss? |
15:06 |
wywialm |
(under certain conditions, not always, etc. of course) |
15:06 |
pankkake |
that person can hoard by moving the coins for free |
15:06 |
pankkake |
though miners would then be incentivized to REFUSE transactions |
15:06 |
jurov |
pankkake: but then everyon knows they are not lost |
15:06 |
Apocalyptic |
who cares |
15:06 |
jurov |
currently everyone can only guess |
15:06 |
pankkake |
no, you're not spending that output, because I want to grab it! |
15:07 |
jurov |
pankkake: market will solve that nicely. miners will take the txfee now instead of waiting for expiration |
15:07 |
benkay |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBHjx4dYxjA |
15:07 |
ozbot |
Computer simulations teaching themselves to walk - Bizarre - YouTube |
15:09 |
asciilifeform |
better: |
15:09 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgG_VSP7f8 |
15:09 |
ozbot |
Karl Sims - Evolved Virtual Creatures, Evolution Simulation, 1994 - YouTube |
15:12 |
wywialm |
bitcoinpete, let's follow jurov and imagine that somehow demand for money/bitcoin sharply increases. Would it be harmful to general trade conditions? That is, would it generate a recession? If not, why? |
15:13 |
wywialm |
probably, let's leave bitcoin for now, as it's not money as a unit of account for majority of bitcoinholders |
15:13 |
wywialm |
let's focus just on abstract 'money' |
15:13 |
jurov |
what is meant by "demand for bitcoin increases"? |
15:14 |
wywialm |
demand for money, no bitcoin :) flight from assets to cash. |
15:14 |
wywialm |
e.g. major 'risk-off' |
15:15 |
wywialm |
hoarding |
15:15 |
wywialm |
etc. |
15:15 |
jurov |
popping of reality/stock bubble as usual? |
15:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26946 @ 0.00095914 = 25.845 BTC [-] |
15:16 |
wywialm |
not necessarily - after such 'pop' there are usually calls that there was a bubble, but not every falling asset was a bubble previously |
15:16 |
benkay |
wywialm: it's money as a unit account for the bitcoin holders that matter. |
15:16 |
benkay |
note that everything on mpex is btc-denominated. |
15:17 |
benkay |
one can even buy hosting denominated in btc |
15:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7167 @ 0.00096466 = 6.9137 BTC [+] |
15:18 |
thestringpuller |
$epth |
15:18 |
thestringpuller |
$depth mpoe |
15:18 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['15174 @ 0.00095914', '75 @ 0.00095266', '11090 @ 0.00095019', '1000 @ 0.00095001', '1000 @ 0.00094501'] |
15:18 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: Asks: ['1292 @ 0.00096466', '14441 @ 0.00097133', '14600 @ 0.00097259', '18750 @ 0.00097667', '19450 @ 0.00097963'] |
15:18 |
wywialm |
sure, but i didn't want to enter this branch of discussion |
15:19 |
benkay |
in assets brach enters you! |
15:19 |
thestringpuller |
benkay: you missing shit |
15:19 |
thestringpuller |
get a bouncer :P |
15:20 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: from personal experience, when the price is going parabolic, there's little incentive to spend bitcoin when the good or service will be cheaper tomorrow and the need isn't dire |
15:21 |
bitcoinpete |
so under such conditions, the economy is filtered for value |
15:22 |
wywialm |
agreed, but this effect can be really harmful in a much more developed economy, with credit, net of contracts, many competitors on a single markets |
15:23 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
You just have to structure a debt contract with half a brain |
15:23 |
wywialm |
and then it is not only filtered for value, trade just goes down incredibly - we could go on claiming everything is fine, but then unemployed resources appear en masse |
15:24 |
benkay |
it will be interesting to see it play out, but nobody knows how it is actually going to play out. |
15:24 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
And thus we hoard |
15:24 |
wywialm |
it definitely will |
15:24 |
benkay |
wywialm: if there's no market for the stuff at the price, the price must move for the stuff to move. |
15:25 |
benkay |
bitcoin will bring a rigor to business unseen for centuries. |
15:25 |
wywialm |
TestingUnoDosTre, like what? indexing to something else? |
15:25 |
benkay |
wywialm: what's the root of your nick? |
15:25 |
wywialm |
benkay, or not |
15:26 |
wywialm |
that's my surname |
15:26 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Or partially indexing. |
15:26 |
benkay |
how does one pronounce it? |
15:27 |
wywialm |
Vyhvial, or actually, Vyhviaw :) if you insist i could provide fonetic notation |
15:27 |
wywialm |
M is first letter of my name |
15:27 |
wywialm |
TestingUnoDosTre, but that's changing the unit of account :) |
15:27 |
benkay |
wywialm: what part of the world is that from? |
15:28 |
wywialm |
Poland |
15:29 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Creditors may also want to shed some risk |
15:30 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
For example if they own a large amount of btc and want to protect against a big short term drop in value |
15:30 |
wywialm |
benkay, re: if there's no market for the stuff at the price, the price must move for the stuff to move |
15:31 |
wywialm |
there are exceptions to this, grouped under the tag of 'price rigidity', which has many origins and which i'll try to sum up briefly |
15:33 |
wywialm |
(generally, if there were no price rigidity, sharp deflation would be no problem, I believe) |
15:33 |
bitcoinpete |
price rigidity is just another form of tversky and khaneman's anchoring and adjusting |
15:34 |
wywialm |
no, not necessarily, it is beyond psychology |
15:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 908 @ 0.00011918 = 0.1082 BTC [+] {2} |
15:35 |
wywialm |
first, there are menu costs and other costs of price adjustments, such as making plans and accounting |
15:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1292 @ 0.00096466 = 1.2463 BTC [+] |
15:37 |
wywialm |
second, there are long term contracts negotiated in terms of monetary unit of account |
15:39 |
benkay |
so the world changes out from underneath you sometimes. one tries to plan and account for these things. sometimes the irresistable force is just completely irresistable. |
15:40 |
wywialm |
and third, most important probably, are network coordination failures. On a reasonably populated market, if the nominal demand (or trade volume) falls, the first enterpreneur to lower prices would not suffer losses due to demand inelasticity |
15:40 |
wywialm |
benkay, true, but this is a source of rigidity which will impact the real economy |
15:41 |
bitcoinpete |
wywialm: right, which all means that the losses, as well as the profits, are privatized, whereas we currently socialize large losses |
15:41 |
benkay |
isn't monetary diddling used solely to socialize losses? |
15:41 |
wywialm |
bitcoinpete, i'm not a defender of current (fiscal and monetary) arrangements |
15:41 |
benkay |
solely, largely, a lot of the time, whatever |
15:43 |
bitcoinpete |
benkay: yup. and i meant to say that bitcoin prevents this, if i wasn't clear |
15:43 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell davot rejected. |
15:43 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
15:43 |
kakobrekla |
;;later tell davout rejected. |
15:43 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
15:43 |
kakobrekla |
eh? |
15:43 |
wywialm |
currently, i'd bet something between 'largely' and 'sometimes'. Have a look at EU, they are heading for deflation, despite their official inflation targets, same in Poland |
15:43 |
benkay |
just helping to illuminate, bitcoinpete |
15:44 |
kakobrekla |
fuckin lag. |
15:45 |
bitcoinpete |
benkay: bueno ;) |
15:45 |
wywialm |
why don't they flood EU with cash, when they have mandate to do it? |
15:45 |
bitcoinpete |
good sesh. i'm out for now |
15:45 |
wywialm |
cya |
15:45 |
benkay |
hey wywialm who actually controls how much money sloshes around the eu? |
15:46 |
wywialm |
ECB |
15:46 |
wywialm |
in that, Germany and to lesser extent, France. |
15:47 |
wywialm |
and the same situation is in Poland, official inflation target is 2.5%, we are ~1% and head of National Bank of Poland says he's ok with that |
15:48 |
wywialm |
Czech Republic is probably deflating already |
15:48 |
Apocalyptic |
a good thing |
15:48 |
wywialm |
not necessarily, as i tried to point earlier |
15:50 |
benkay |
well head of NBP doesn't have much say in euro monetary supply does he? |
15:50 |
wywialm |
in PL we are monetary independent still |
15:51 |
wywialm |
we have zloty (which, by coincidence, means 'golden', and last had gold component 300 years ago) |
15:51 |
wywialm |
not EUR |
15:51 |
benkay |
asciilifeform: https://github.com/pf/erc-gribble |
15:51 |
benkay |
ah cool |
15:52 |
benkay |
well so anyways euro is deflating right now? |
15:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18491 @ 0.00096548 = 17.8527 BTC [+] |
15:53 |
wywialm |
inflation 0.5 %, target 2% |
15:54 |
benkay |
what are their lines of recourse and why aren't they using them? |
15:55 |
wywialm |
and it is not equally distributed throughout eurozone, south is deflating for a couple of years, -1.5% i believe |
15:55 |
wywialm |
they only use interest rate policy, which is veeery far from efficient |
15:56 |
wywialm |
and they are cowardly, i believe, as they could push interest rates lower even in their imperfect framework |
15:57 |
wywialm |
what they should do is to do as-neutral-as-possible QE. Think about it, if you have a bank, and demand for your notes skyrockets, you issue more, not less, right? |
15:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06690993 = 0.2007 BTC [+] {2} |
15:58 |
asciilifeform |
benkay: neato |
15:59 |
wywialm |
btw: that reminded me about another consequence of deflation, which should be obvious: the zero lower bound of interest rates |
15:59 |
benkay |
oh phf you can !up yourself in pm now |
15:59 |
benkay |
;;ident phf |
15:59 |
gribble |
Nick 'phf', with hostmask 'phf!~phf@unaffiliated/phf', is identified as user 'phf', with GPG key id 5356DE4752432A9E, key fingerprint BDDE12104FE81BE7F83B698F5356DE4752432A9E, and bitcoin address 1N3iZVTNu4kco858zTpHUkfpzAWj6Uma7S |
15:59 |
benkay |
!up phf |
15:59 |
assbot |
Voicing phf without time-limit. |
15:59 |
benkay |
phf wrote that elisp |
16:00 |
* |
benkay goes back to mutating cloud boxes |
16:00 |
phf |
cheers |
16:01 |
phf |
next step is to add assbot integration |
16:01 |
phf |
now that i can test it ;) |
16:01 |
benkay |
sweet |
16:11 |
wywialm |
i'll be going, thanks benkay for a nice chat |
16:11 |
benkay |
see ya |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
16:38 |
thestringpuller |
!last m s.mpoe |
16:38 |
assbot |
Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00096548 BTC [+] |
16:38 |
thestringpuller |
$depth mpoe |
16:38 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['15167 @ 0.00096548', '75 @ 0.00096', '15174 @ 0.00095914', '11090 @ 0.00095019', '1000 @ 0.00095001'] |
16:38 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: Asks: ['49700 @ 0.00097016', '14441 @ 0.00097133', '14600 @ 0.00097259', '43200 @ 0.00097666', '18750 @ 0.00097667'] |
16:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00502054 = 1.0141 BTC [-] {9} |
16:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.50342865 = 2.5171 BTC [-] {5} |
16:42 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
16:42 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 511.23, Best ask: 512.93, Bid-ask spread: 1.70000, Last trade: 512.92, 24 hour volume: 32932.41992736, 24 hour low: 494.02, 24 hour high: 548.0, 24 hour vwap: 517.82933908 |
16:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00499191 = 0.1897 BTC [-] {2} |
16:44 |
thestringpuller |
wow amazing |
16:44 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
16:48 |
Apocalyptic |
pankkake, http://www.lecontrarien.com/2014/04/16 |
16:49 |
Apocalyptic |
"cest léducation nationale ou ce quil en reste tant cette institution marque léchec volontaire de notre société dans lensemble qui réfléchit doctement non pas à améliorer le niveau scolaire déplorable de nos enfants mais à changer le système de notation des dictées. Nous ne comptabiliserons plus désormais que les mots qui sont bien écrits
" |
16:49 |
Apocalyptic |
dafuq |
16:54 |
pankkake |
I don't understand what he really means |
16:54 |
pankkake |
the whole website seems to advertise buying gold |
16:56 |
Apocalyptic |
I'm not sure but I read "Nous ne comptabiliserons plus désormais que les mots qui sont bien écrits
" as you just have to write 10 or 20 words correctly to get the full mark |
16:57 |
Apocalyptic |
he may be biased but I think he's right about "Ce mouvement vers linculture nest pas français mais international" and the will to make people dumb generally |
16:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.501 = 1.002 BTC [-] {2} |
16:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.00490007 = 0.3283 BTC [-] {2} |
16:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.50100001 = 1.002 BTC [+] |
16:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.501 = 1.002 BTC [-] |
17:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05252 = 0.2101 BTC [-] |
17:07 |
artifexd |
;;later tell bitcoinpete You may want to increase the left margin on your ul,ol under media="all". As it is currently, it prevents your footnote labels from showing more than a single digit. |
17:07 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
17:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.052502 = 0.2625 BTC [-] {3} |
17:08 |
pankkake |
!voice peterl |
17:08 |
pankkake |
!up peterl |
17:08 |
assbot |
Voicing peterl for 30 minutes. |
17:08 |
peterl |
thanks |
17:09 |
artifexd |
;;gettrust assbot peterl |
17:09 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user peterl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=peterl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=peterl | Rated since: never |
17:09 |
peterl |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y49gAOT06_uDM25rocO3SOEyTyLYkWnZ5UFDikDceqA/edit?usp=sharing |
17:09 |
ozbot |
LIF retrospective - Google Docs |
17:09 |
peterl |
mircea_popescu: there you go |
17:10 |
pankkake |
;;rate peterl 1 member of the cult of mpex |
17:10 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user peterl has been recorded. |
17:10 |
peterl |
lol, the scientology of bitcoin, right? |
17:11 |
pankkake |
yep |
17:11 |
bounce |
did git support signing of commits? |
17:11 |
benkay |
indeed, bounce it *does* |
17:12 |
pankkake |
yes, it does now. can be very useful |
17:12 |
benkay |
but maybe consider signing tags instead |
17:12 |
pankkake |
it breaks if you rewrite history though :( |
17:12 |
benkay |
for instance, check out https://github.com/pf/erc-gribble |
17:13 |
benkay |
then git tag -v beta_0 |
17:13 |
* |
bounce was idly speculating on stuffing all law in a SCM, with public diffs. and signed commits by the head of state. |
17:13 |
benkay |
law, bounce ? |
17:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.06437036 = 1.6093 BTC [-] {4} |
17:13 |
bounce |
law, benkay . |
17:13 |
pankkake |
where we're going, we don't need laws |
17:14 |
phf |
github doesn't even bother to inform you that there's a signature on the tag, but signed tags seem like a good place to put contracts |
17:14 |
phf |
(it doesn't affect history either) |
17:15 |
pankkake |
otherwise, I know it's planned to be used by gentoo - you need to sign every packaging commit given the sensible nature of it |
17:15 |
pankkake |
github is for people who don't know how to use git anyway :p |
17:15 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Who ran LIF? |
17:15 |
thestringpuller |
lol pankkake why because you can edit files and commit them from the website? |
17:16 |
pankkake |
also, yes |
17:16 |
benkay |
bounce: what kinds of laws are you writing? and for whom are they? |
17:16 |
peterl |
LIF was run by me |
17:16 |
* |
phf ducks |
17:16 |
bounce |
who says I am writing laws? |
17:17 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/TorEkelandPC/status/456520800892620800 |
17:17 |
ozbot |
Twitter / TorEkelandPC: yo, @rabite court just signed ... |
17:17 |
benkay |
bounce try it like i'm twelve |
17:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Weev is now unconditionally free |
17:18 |
bounce |
apparently there's a "TRO LLC IRC" somewhere |
17:19 |
BingoBoingo |
Really? |
17:19 |
BingoBoingo |
I imagine it isn't on freenode... |
17:20 |
bounce |
could try and dig through that timeline a bit |
17:24 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
What did he get booked for? Read the article and they mostly talked about trial etc |
17:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06690777 = 5.3526 BTC [+] {8} |
17:25 |
bounce |
IIRC he'd sucked up a bunch of apple device IDs from at&t's leaky activation site |
17:25 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
And then shorted the stock or sometning? |
17:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 140 @ 0.00499506 = 0.6993 BTC [+] {4} |
17:26 |
bounce |
no, more like told'em to fix it, and they responded with the fbi instead. something like that. |
17:27 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Ahhh I thought he said he was reaping some short term trades after publishing about these weaknesses |
17:28 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
In the article it said EFF didn't want to get near the case until appeal was possible. I had higher expectations |
17:29 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Thought they might be a last bastion in th shitstorm which is the US legal sphere |
17:30 |
BingoBoingo |
It wasn't quite that. |
17:31 |
BingoBoingo |
TestingUnoDosTre: Use this opportunity to return with the narrative |
17:34 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
This http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/15/weev-talks-about-life-in-prison-and-his-plans-to-open-a-hedge-fund-tro-llc/ |
17:35 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
From article" I am here to shift the market cap of publicly traded companies downward by publicizing problems in their technical infrastructure. Very few people manage to do this. In fact, besides the times I’ve done so, I can only think of a handful of other incidents." |
17:35 |
BingoBoingo |
TestingUnoDosTre: What about the charges related to ATT |
17:36 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
He was freed from them, No? |
17:36 |
BingoBoingo |
TestingUnoDosTre: Also return with information on what happened to the guy who plead out |
17:36 |
BingoBoingo |
TestingUnoDosTre: Well, what was the exact story on what he was charged for doing |
17:36 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Isn't that was said article is about? |
17:39 |
Namworld |
Let me make up a quote for weev: "I am Troll, c?" |
17:41 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Ahhh I see. EFF did help out, after other lawyers did the footwork |
17:43 |
BingoBoingo |
TestingUnoDosTre: Well, what was the exact act Weev was charged for |
17:45 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Like the charge, or what did he do? |
17:46 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
He submitted a bunch of false cc-ids in attempt to reverse engineer the ID to number conversion that att used |
17:47 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Charge was identify theft and conspiracy to commit yada yada yada computer fraud act |
17:48 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
My battery is dead though. Gots to go |
| |
~ 1 hours 7 minutes ~ |
18:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00096841 = 2.4694 BTC [+] |
19:06 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell mircea_popescu ATC statement sent |
19:06 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
19:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.0009671 = 22.34 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
19:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
19:43 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 532.93, vol: 30405.03419523 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 530.0, vol: 26368.61606 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 535.48, vol: 29414.42731683 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 525.0, vol: 132.76821455 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 530.150907, vol: 8937.38800000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 523.52018, vol: 51.15564199 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 530.6112, vol: 156.56210479 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) |
19:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;more |
19:43 |
gribble |
532.626348898 |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
who dares complain!!11 |
19:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Eh, someone who tried to bitbet late |
19:46 |
BingoBoingo |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-04-2014#627678 |
19:46 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
19:49 |
peterl |
but why is it crashing? |
19:52 |
mod6 |
what is? |
19:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Dollars!!! |
19:52 |
peterl |
the price, it is down from its high |
19:53 |
peterl |
!t m x.eur |
19:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00313681 / 0.00313681 / 0.00313681 (786 shares, 2.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00213452 / 0.00257686 / 0.00313681 (2268 shares, 5.84 BTC) |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
!up SatoshiJack |
19:55 |
assbot |
Voicing SatoshiJack for 30 minutes. |
19:56 |
SatoshiJack |
thanks mp -- we are very close -- should open doors for atc in the next couple of days... |
19:58 |
peterl |
SatoshiJack: who is we? |
19:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC |
19:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4917 @ 0.00096548 = 4.7473 BTC [-] |
20:00 |
SatoshiJack |
My team...the satoshiJack team :) |
20:11 |
benkay |
;;gettrust SatoshiJack |
20:11 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18. Trust relationship from user benkay to user SatoshiJack: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=SatoshiJack | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SatoshiJack | Rated since: never |
20:11 |
benkay |
;;gettrust assbot SatoshiJack |
20:11 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18. Trust relationship from user assbot to user SatoshiJack: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=SatoshiJack | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SatoshiJack | Rated since: never |
20:17 |
peterl |
is it considered better manners to set otc ratings in the channel or via pm with gribble? |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
hasn't gotten to the point of actually bothering yet. |
20:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i suspect people like to keep an eye on it |
20:18 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo looking good. |
20:18 |
BingoBoingo |
At least for a while bringing up the assbot - target path is probably productive to see if people wanting voice can already !up themselves |
20:18 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Thanks |
20:18 |
benkay |
peterl: we're all making it up as we go |
20:19 |
benkay |
the dynamics of upping is interesting to watch as well |
20:23 |
mircea_popescu |
so reading the log... is nubbins` like this chan's cialis or what. |
20:23 |
bitcoinpete |
;;later tell artifexd your nudge was just what i needed to finally get that done. thanks! |
20:23 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
20:24 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins` is a lot of things |
20:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [+] |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
Duffer1: sorry man that all was before my time, not sure what all happened << mnw figured he'd be a smartass, bet everyone pirate will deliver (after default). 10k btc, which he obviously lost, which he then reneged on (pretending he's "delivering" by simply writing 10k BTC in a foirum post) and got banned. |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
then got unbanned |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
then got banned again |
20:25 |
mircea_popescu |
then piles of drama, it gets circular. |
20:25 |
Azelphur |
I remember that |
20:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15249 @ 0.00095914 = 14.6259 BTC [-] {2} |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
congratulations, you're old enough :) |
20:26 |
Azelphur |
\o/ |
20:26 |
mircea_popescu |
rithm: which is broken because you have no way to idetify the person you communicate with on that forum << stop slandering https etc. |
20:27 |
Azelphur |
that was pretty funny "This bet is serious business, if you place the bet and loose then don't pay, you will be marked as a scammer and banned" |
20:27 |
Azelphur |
"Oh shit I lost... NOPE IT WAS ALL A BIG JOKE HAHAHA" |
20:27 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
20:30 |
Azelphur |
I remember he was writer at bitcoin magazine too, iirc he got fired over it |
20:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Bitcoin Magazine has its own lulzy history |
20:33 |
bitcoinpete |
;;rate artifexd 1 nudger |
20:33 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating for user artifexd has changed from 1 to 1. |
20:33 |
mircea_popescu |
Azelphur nah, he was fired when the bitpay crew screwed the original owner out of his shares and put that romanian kid in |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
whatever his name is. who maybe left meanwhile or w/e |
20:34 |
Azelphur |
I see |
20:34 |
mircea_popescu |
or maybe he left in protest or maybe he was fired right before that ? shit's starting to get foggy |
20:34 |
Azelphur |
god alone knows |
20:35 |
Azelphur |
he's not a nice fellow, tldr. |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno he's not nice. he's definitely one of the guys that got raped in the ass by their failure to take bitcoin serious enough. |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
where enough is a value roughly in excess of hard infinity. |
20:36 |
mircea_popescu |
aleph three. |
20:37 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell TestingUnoDosTre eh what robbed, thing closed at like 11, you bet 11:20 or what |
20:37 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
20:39 |
BingoBoingo |
The hazard of late BitBets, on price especially is when the thing hits verus where it sticks can be... messy, and the difference here is in the house's favor |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea why people insist to try and use a knowledge advantage. fucking thing has about 700 bells and whistles pointing out you'll get hurt in all likeliness |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
yet people can't resist. |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess it's all a testament to the SEC's historical success in controlling insider trading. |
20:40 |
mircea_popescu |
hear ye of little competence : i am and i have been doing a shitload better than you ever did, to the degree the differential is culture-shocking people. |
20:41 |
peterl |
one more reason to bet early |
20:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Preach it. I mean why do people keep getting this "free winning" idea when BET is in the name |
20:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3073 @ 0.00011911 = 0.366 BTC [+] {4} |
20:42 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess it's just irresistible and that's how it'll stay. |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
o look i missed the polish inflation discussion. |
20:43 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe next time. |
20:44 |
BingoBoingo |
The de/in-flation discussions always have a next time |
20:45 |
benkay |
http://theumlaut.com/2014/04/16/a-coup-not-an-exit/ |
20:45 |
benkay |
the light begins to dawn... |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"This view is charmingly naïve. " |
20:46 |
mircea_popescu |
assholes not in here daring to claim things are "charmingly naive". irony crits. |
20:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00095719 = 12.4435 BTC [-] |
20:47 |
benkay |
perhaps they read logs? |
20:47 |
benkay |
perhaps they have someone reading logs? |
20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
still presumptuous. |
20:47 |
mircea_popescu |
peterl can you post that again in something that's not a hairball of js ? like a pastebin say. or a wp blog or something. |
20:48 |
peterl |
yeah, sure, give me a minute |
20:48 |
benkay |
php > js |
20:49 |
bitcoinpete |
benkay: eli doesn't get the scarcity angle. few casual observers do, particularly amid the mt gox this and that noise |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay im trying to be user friendly shush you |
20:49 |
benkay |
i don't really get the mining arguments. but yes, containerization. |
20:50 |
benkay |
paucity of new coins, bitcoinpete ? |
20:50 |
bitcoinpete |
basically |
20:51 |
bitcoinpete |
"Bitcoin for now exists at the pleasure of governments" << this is just priceless |
20:51 |
peterl |
http://pastebin.com/euqGSEgn |
20:51 |
ozbot |
LIF retrospective - Pastebin.com |
20:51 |
bitcoinpete |
there's some gems in there |
20:51 |
peterl |
is that better? |
20:51 |
benkay |
signed and everything |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/456595768221003777 |
20:51 |
ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @rabite Let's talk. ... |
20:51 |
mircea_popescu |
if guy actually shows up someone up him. |
20:51 |
peterl |
cause sure, why not sign it? |
20:52 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoinpete everyone wants to think that the earth sucked before he showed up to fix it. |
20:53 |
bitcoinpete |
mircea_popescu: and that times, they are a changing. so fast that history is useless |
20:53 |
benkay |
;;gettrust peterl |
20:53 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask peterl!~peterl@108-204-237-26.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user benkay to user peterl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=peterl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=peterl | Rated since: Wed Apr 16 17:10:12 2014 |
20:53 |
mircea_popescu |
whoa stumbleupon still exists ?! |
20:54 |
bitcoinpete |
define "exist" |
20:54 |
benkay |
peterl: what is your otc identity? |
20:54 |
mircea_popescu |
that's a point. "anything other than a rip page" |
20:54 |
peterl |
peterl is my otc id |
20:55 |
benkay |
hm |
20:56 |
bitcoinpete |
mircea_popescu: lol that doesn't leave a lot, does it |
20:56 |
mircea_popescu |
http://fuckedcompany.com/ bitcoinpete |
20:56 |
ozbot |
FuckedCompany.com - Official Lubricant Of The New Economy |
20:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00095299 = 16.582 BTC [-] |
20:57 |
bitcoinpete |
that's a new one |
20:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. it's not new, young padawan. you are :D |
20:58 |
bitcoinpete |
lol i meant for me! |
20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe. that was the techmeme before arlington was invented. |
21:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.50072223 = 9.013 BTC [-] {7} |
21:00 |
bitcoinpete |
http://t.co/4DE6RoFKMj |
21:01 |
bitcoinpete |
the nobel comes to bitcoin |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"Best ATM Design" ? |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
what's this troop smoking lmao |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"Most Impactful Charity" |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone wants to bet the bitpay sister gets that ? what was her name |
21:02 |
bitcoinpete |
mp, you'd better win best journalist |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
Each of the winners will receive 1 BTC |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
aghagaga o spare me sally. |
21:02 |
bitcoinpete |
and influential investor lol |
21:02 |
BingoBoingo |
I think MP takes most influential investor |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
i should probably make a pie throwing contest, give 10 btc to the best thrown pie to the face of these losers. |
21:03 |
bitcoinpete |
and legal expert, and bitcoin champion, and on an on |
21:03 |
mircea_popescu |
that;s about their total pool. |
21:03 |
bitcoinpete |
except it was funny/sad how few people at the bitcoin expo in toronto who'd even heard of you or mpex |
21:04 |
bitcoinpete |
there should be EmPee Awards |
21:04 |
peterl |
they have a list of people they already picked to honor (themselves), and they had to come up with a category for everybody? |
21:04 |
mircea_popescu |
how many people at bitcoin toronto heard of niederauer ? |
21:04 |
bitcoinpete |
fair enough |
21:06 |
mircea_popescu |
lol why am i looking at some japanese chick with her panties on |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/447344144315211776 |
21:07 |
ozbot |
Twitter / rogerkver: Tokyo has the best Bitcoin ... |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly, i am not impresst. |
21:08 |
bitcoinpete |
EmPee Award categories: best haircut, funniest log line, herpiest derp, best troll… |
21:08 |
bitcoinpete |
ya, she looks like an amputee |
21:10 |
bitcoinpete |
http://www.seriouss.net/#!Support-the-BitGive-Foundation/c20df/0281C51F-4999-40B1-8653-13F099D34964 |
21:10 |
ozbot |
Serious Stuff |
21:10 |
bitcoinpete |
donating bitcoin to charity will "not only will it help a worthy charitable cause, it will also contribute to the future success of Bitcoin:" <<obviously lol |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a stupid idea, because in general charity is powered by tax deductions. |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
this makes donations the absolute last thing bitcoin will do. |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
but try and talk it to the fucktards who have some shit impacted in their head which they misrepresent as an idea, and then try to use everything they encounter on the road as shit-amplifyer, instead of using it as a shit removing device. |
21:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
21:13 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1782548/plain/) |
21:13 |
bitcoinpete |
everything is used to amplify brain damage here |
21:13 |
bitcoinpete |
it's socially encouraged |
21:14 |
peterl |
well, according to IRS rules, couldn't you claim a bitcoin donation as charitable donation for tax purposes? |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
peterl try and do so. |
21:14 |
peterl |
since bitcoins are assets like cars and shit? |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
you can claim anything you want, including that you have 84 minor children. |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then you get audited. |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then you get to argue it in court. |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
then you win. |
21:14 |
mircea_popescu |
or die, whichever comes first. |
21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
people with actual tax accountants who get actual advice (ie, the people in a position to make meaningful donations) don't do stupid shit because that;'s what happened to be in front of their eyes that hour. |
21:15 |
peterl |
as long as the charity gave you a receipt, I don't see why there would be any hassle? |
21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
because the business of the irs is to hassle the margin. |
21:16 |
mircea_popescu |
that's what a taxman does, in all tiumes and places. it's the fundamental conservative mechanism of a society. |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!up thecluck |
21:18 |
assbot |
Voicing thecluck for 30 minutes. |
21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
lampelinaa how's it going ? |
21:21 |
bitcoinpete |
.d |
21:21 |
ozbot |
6.120 billion | Next Diff in 121 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.3566% in 0d 17h 8m 44s |
21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!up bettycla1p |
21:21 |
assbot |
Voicing bettycla1p for 30 minutes. |
21:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!up wutwhutw1t |
21:21 |
assbot |
Voicing wutwhutw1t for 30 minutes. |
21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
.d |
21:34 |
ozbot |
6.120 billion | Next Diff in 120 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.2178% in 0d 17h 17m 59s |
21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;ticker |
21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
21:43 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 522.3, Best ask: 525.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.70000, Last trade: 522.28, 24 hour volume: 30337.42561740, 24 hour low: 494.02, 24 hour high: 548.0, 24 hour vwap: 520.388624434 |
21:48 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
mircea_popescu - about this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/800/bitcoin-price-above-525-before-may/ it was the other way around. I had bet at + received 1 confirmation (and bet posted to bitbet) at 23:20. The bitstamp price crossed over at 23:29 |
21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
TestingUnoDosTre looks like 23:00 on that graph |
21:51 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Let me check the difference between bitcoincharts time and GMT |
21:53 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I had about 10 minutes before the crossover, I was watching it at the bar |
21:55 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
Here's what I have on bitcoincharts, loaded 1 minute data 2014-04-15 23:29:00524.51527521.54527163.886233.43526.46 |
21:55 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
at 23:29, open was 524.51, close was 527 |
21:55 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
here |
21:56 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
here's my tx https://blockchain.info/address/17GnrasopAN9TKFSH88v7f3qEHbY4vkDJ3 |
21:56 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
posted to bitbet 6 minutes later |
21:57 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
this is the page I loaded data from (apologize but it has like 2 days worth of 1 minute data) http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg1zig1-minzczsg2014-04-16zeg2014-04-17ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
i think you're arguing the wrong tack here. |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
nobody is going to go into the level of detail you need for your case. |
21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
bitbet is not a good venue to be doing this sorts of "oh but i bet x seconds before it ticked". |
22:00 |
mircea_popescu |
bet a day early and get refunded, then you got something. |
22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
!up blackwhite |
22:01 |
assbot |
Voicing blackwhite for 30 minutes. |
22:02 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I'll back down if I must. I agree with the gist of what you're saying, but I played by the rules and it's somewhat easy to verify that I was in "on time" |
22:04 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
There's no reason the price couldn't have swung in the opposite direction |
22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
TestingUnoDosTre well, the life of a late bettor is hard. if you get in, you get in. however, if you don't you don't, and it's the mod that makes the call. |
22:05 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I feel like I most definitely did get in though. But enough of this dicussion |
22:05 |
blackwhite |
hola peeps |
22:06 |
mircea_popescu |
heya |
22:06 |
BingoBoingo |
TestingUnoDosTre: Remember that BitBet has worse fates than a refund for the late. |
22:07 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
I do understand, and that's the risk I was taking. I did bet before the event occured though... |
22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
!up elgrecoFL |
22:08 |
assbot |
Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. |
22:13 |
joecool |
!up BCB |
22:13 |
assbot |
Voicing BCB for 30 minutes. |
22:14 |
BCB |
thx |
22:14 |
BCB |
anyone interested in a 25 BTC Casascius Coin |
22:16 |
thestringpuller |
$depth mpoe |
22:16 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['20800 @ 0.00095321', '41904 @ 0.00095299', '6100 @ 0.00095168', '1000 @ 0.00095001', '1000 @ 0.00094501'] |
22:16 |
mpexbot |
thestringpuller: Asks: ['12200 @ 0.00095568', '15960 @ 0.00095719', '3800 @ 0.00095861', '5400 @ 0.0009597', '9188 @ 0.0009601'] |
22:17 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate BCB 1 Been around Bitcoin forever, investigates scamzors |
22:17 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BCB has been recorded. |
22:17 |
BCB |
BingoBoingo, thanks |
22:17 |
BCB |
;;rated BingoBoingo |
22:17 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user BingoBoingo |
22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-the-past/ |
22:17 |
ozbot |
The problem of the past pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
peterl ^ |
22:18 |
mircea_popescu |
and everyone with a legal inclination, if you have a moment, pls to read. |
22:18 |
BCB |
BingoBoingo, still waiting for pirateat40 to go to jail! |
22:18 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: I've seen you around forever now, but I don't think we've had occasion to interact. |
22:18 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: I imagine he will find worse than jail |
22:19 |
BCB |
BingoBoingo, I think he already has. WIfe left him, all his assets have been seized, He's back living in his mother's house |
22:19 |
BCB |
and he's being sued by the SEC |
22:19 |
BCB |
Life doesn't get much worse then that |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: There are far worse things than that. He is going to see the future he could have been a part of, but was exiled from in its infancy |
22:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Killing him would have been kinder than that |
22:20 |
mircea_popescu |
wow that's some high drama aproach right there. |
22:21 |
mircea_popescu |
tho tbh, i think the kid's exactly smart enough for that to smart. |
22:21 |
joecool |
BCB: prison rape is in the future |
22:22 |
mircea_popescu |
this obsession with prison rape srsly. it;s like 30 cases per 100k inmates |
22:22 |
BingoBoingo |
joecool: Sphincters heal, serious regret is forever |
22:22 |
BCB |
joecool, if he goes to prison it will be some low sec location. Not much prison rape there. Lots of checkers and shuffleboard |
22:22 |
mircea_popescu |
in the us. in canada it's like 3x that. |
22:22 |
BCB |
BingoBoingo, I don't think he ever saw a future in bitcoin. He just saw it as a way to make a quick buck. He was too smart for his own good. |
22:23 |
joecool |
mircea_popescu: reported cases? canadians are probably just more shameless |
22:23 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: It doesn't matter if he saw it then. He is doomed to see it the rest of his life. |
22:23 |
peterl |
mircea_popescu: looks like you tear apart my story just as intended. thanks. |
22:23 |
BingoBoingo |
And there is no such thing as "too smart for their own good" |
22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
joecool i dunno why someone would fail to report rape in prison. |
22:23 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a distraction. |
22:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00095321 = 5.052 BTC [+] |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell peterl your signature is pretty shitty. |
22:27 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
22:27 |
mircea_popescu |
!up roamfree |
22:27 |
assbot |
Voicing roamfree for 30 minutes. |
22:28 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo well there is such a thing as thinking they're too smart for their own good |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
;;gettrust assbot cazalla |
22:29 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask cazalla!cazalla@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fedb:949f. Trust relationship from user assbot to user cazalla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=cazalla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cazalla | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:17:43 2014 |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
;;rate cazalla 1 New blood. |
22:29 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. |
22:29 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Sure, but such a thing is just a hypertrophic form of Dunning-Kreuger |
22:29 |
mircea_popescu |
aye |
22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Not merely thinking one is adequate for such a thing, but thinking one was too good at such a thing to have gotten away with it. |
22:34 |
joecool |
!ping |
22:34 |
joecool |
;;ratingsystem viewrating assbot |
22:34 |
gribble |
Error: The "RatingSystem" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "viewrating" in it. Try "list RatingSystem" to see the commands in the "RatingSystem" plugin. |
22:34 |
joecool |
;;ratingsystem getrating assbot |
22:34 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User assbot, rated since Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014. Cumulative rating 26, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 29 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot |
22:38 |
elgrecoFL |
<+mircea_popescu> !up elgrecoFL |
22:38 |
elgrecoFL |
<@assbot> Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
lol timing is everything |
22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
!up elgrecoFL |
22:39 |
assbot |
Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. |
22:39 |
elgrecoFL |
heh. what was that about? :) |
22:39 |
elgrecoFL |
great bot name, btw |
22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
well you got voice. |
22:41 |
elgrecoFL |
thx. did i not have voice? |
22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust assbot elgrecoFL |
22:42 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user elgrecoFL: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=elgrecoFL | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=elgrecoFL | Rated since: never |
22:42 |
elgrecoFL |
well... i'm speechless :p |
22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Were speechless |
22:42 |
TestingUnoDosTre |
that assbot is amazing |
22:42 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
22:44 |
mircea_popescu |
the amazing times and feats of assbot, the amazing ass bot. |
22:44 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
22:44 |
elgrecoFL |
heh |
22:44 |
elgrecoFL |
lets see if ozbot speaks in this channel |
22:44 |
elgrecoFL |
stupid bot |
22:44 |
ozbot |
Gamisou re malaka! |
22:44 |
elgrecoFL |
wewt |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
haha wut |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
stupid bot |
22:45 |
ozbot |
Gamisou re malaka! |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
til. |
22:45 |
elgrecoFL |
he speaks greek |
22:45 |
elgrecoFL |
well, curses in greek |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
!up BCB |
22:45 |
assbot |
Voicing BCB for 30 minutes. |
22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
who was running ozbot ? scrat ? |
22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: You should be able to self voice nao |
22:45 |
BCB |
BingoBoingo, I'm cool authed now. Thx |
22:45 |
BCB |
;;voiceme |
22:46 |
elgrecoFL |
mircea_popescu: jezzz |
22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
22:46 |
joecool |
unlike gribble |
22:46 |
elgrecoFL |
well, he wrote it anyway |
22:46 |
joecool |
;;rated gribble |
22:46 |
gribble |
You rated user gribble on Sun Mar 2 22:05:31 2014, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: knows damn right who I am. |
22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: The method here is PM'ing assbot !up |
22:46 |
BCB |
ahh ok. thx |
22:46 |
joecool |
;;whoami |
22:46 |
gribble |
I don't recognize you. |
22:46 |
joecool |
-_- |
22:46 |
BCB |
;;whoami |
22:46 |
gribble |
I don't recognize you. |
22:46 |
BCB |
fucker |
22:46 |
mircea_popescu |
;;whosurmom |
22:46 |
gribble |
Error: "whosurmom" is not a valid command. |
22:46 |
BCB |
!up |
22:46 |
assbot |
Need a nickname, BCB. |
22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Periscope |
22:46 |
assbot |
Voicing Periscope for 30 minutes. |
22:47 |
BCB |
whoami |
22:47 |
BCB |
;;whoami |
22:47 |
gribble |
I don't recognize you. |
22:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Plain !up works in PM, !up nick works in channel |
22:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00095321 = 4.0988 BTC [+] |
22:50 |
benkay |
one can also /msg assbot !up |
22:50 |
benkay |
dat one-liner |
22:50 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell PeterL what key did you sign that pastebin with anyway ?! |
22:50 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
22:52 |
thestringpuller |
lolol |
22:55 |
mircea_popescu |
later all! |
22:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00095321 = 6.1959 BTC [+] |
22:59 |
benkay |
thestringpuller: ping |
23:02 |
thestringpuller |
p |
23:02 |
thestringpuller |
ya |
23:09 |
BingoBoingo |
!up elgrecoFL |
23:09 |
assbot |
Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. |
23:09 |
BingoBoingo |
elgrecoFL: What sort of stuff do you do? |
23:10 |
elgrecoFL |
I excel in channel idling. This may be my first time ever speaking here in over a year. |
23:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Cool |
23:14 |
elgrecoFL |
:). just a bitocin enthusiast |
23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
23:14 |
elgrecoFL |
don't really "do" much. |
23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
It happens |
23:14 |
elgrecoFL |
yep. small time mining since 2011 |
23:15 |
benkay |
wish i got to do not much ;) |
23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: For some people doing a lot is showering once in a week. For other people not doing much is working 18 hour days. |
23:16 |
elgrecoFL |
heh. i'm closer to 10 hour days. |
23:17 |
benkay |
BingoBoingo: I suppose. |
23:18 |
benkay |
BingoBoingo: i do sometimes long for the days of the 40-hour work week. |
23:18 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: !up yourself just to make sure things work |
23:19 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Sometimes I long for the days when the smell of cunt juice on the fingers was a new smell |
23:20 |
benkay |
haha sounds like you need to go find some new cunts to sniff |
23:21 |
BCB |
that did it |
23:21 |
BCB |
thax |
23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
BCB: Ur welcome |
23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Maybe. |
23:21 |
benkay |
;;gettrust assbot BCB |
23:21 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask BCB!~BCB@ec2-54-204-38-85.compute-1.amazonaws.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BCB: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BCB | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BCB | Rated since: Thu Sep 20 19:03:51 2012 |
23:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.0049998 = 0.22 BTC [-] |
23:28 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Has your Dukeness given much thought as to the requirements you suppose on those who would be your Ridders? |
23:29 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: And your Jonkheers? |
23:31 |
benkay |
much thought |
23:31 |
benkay |
few conclusions |
23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
Similar situation here. |
23:31 |
benkay |
one interesting thing is this numeric count req'd to get into assbot's wot |
23:32 |
benkay |
say you rate someone +1 |
23:32 |
benkay |
and I rate them -1 |
23:32 |
benkay |
i imagine they'd not be able to !up any more. |
23:32 |
benkay |
;;gettrust assbot benkay |
23:32 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user benkay: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 9 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 |
23:32 |
BingoBoingo |
;;gettrust assbot BingoBoingo |
23:32 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013 |
23:33 |
benkay |
baseline requirements: must be able to sign things with wot key or decrypt things sent to wot key |
23:33 |
benkay |
;) |
23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
Well that is the minimum or even below it to get self upping |
23:34 |
benkay |
there's a bit of inflation at the bottom end. i'm willing to +1 for #bitcoin-assets voice, and +2 people I know to be people and not terrifically scummy. |
23:35 |
benkay |
but the question of who receives that +1 is open. |
23:36 |
benkay |
bare minimum for a 3 is that i've done biz witcha. |
23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
Seems reasonable |
23:38 |
benkay |
;;seen herbijudlestoids |
23:38 |
gribble |
herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 15 hours, 5 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <herbijudlestoids> BingoBoingo: if someone wanted to offer hosting services, do you think most people are after a VPS with SSH access? or just a VPS with a panel? |
23:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, that |
23:39 |
benkay |
herbi can up himself |
23:39 |
BingoBoingo |
can he? |
23:39 |
benkay |
he's in your WoT. |
23:39 |
benkay |
;;gettrust assbot herbijudlestoids |
23:39 |
gribble |
WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user herbijudlestoids: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=herbijudlestoids | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=herbijudlestoids | Rated since: Fri Feb 14 01:33:49 2014 |
23:39 |
joecool |
wot |
23:39 |
joecool |
u wot m8? |
23:39 |
artifexd |
;;gettrust assbot joecool |
23:39 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joecool: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joecool | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joecool | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011 |
23:40 |
joecool |
!rated artifexd |
23:40 |
joecool |
;;rated artifexd |
23:40 |
gribble |
You have not yet rated user artifexd |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate herbijedelstoids 1 voice |
23:42 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
23:42 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate herbijedelstoids 1 voice |
23:42 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate herbijudelstoids 1 voice |
23:43 |
gribble |
Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;rate herbijudlestoids 0 |
23:43 |
gribble |
Error: Rating must be in the interval [-10, 10] and cannot be zero. |
23:43 |
BingoBoingo |
;;unrate herbijudlestoids |
23:43 |
gribble |
Successfully removed your rating for herbijudlestoids. |
23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
The consequences of spelling |
23:48 |
benkay |
lol |
23:48 |
benkay |
so bitvps busted cert? |
23:48 |
benkay |
https://bitvps.com/ |
23:48 |
ozbot |
BitVPS: SSD VPS & Dedicated Servers for Bitcoin | SSD VPS + Dedicated Servers for Bitcoin |
23:49 |
benkay |
casual inspection sez ok, but chrome sez nawp |
23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Wow |
23:51 |
benkay |
now comes my favorite part of client work |
23:51 |
benkay |
figuring out your crazy dns provider's web panel |
23:52 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
23:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00095392 = 10.3023 BTC [+] |
23:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00095308 = 10.8651 BTC [-] {2} |