00:00 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Very informative. |
00:00 |
cads |
I think I could see that the family of stopping times of a given process might let us create a filtration that other processes could be adapted to. |
00:01 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: not sure if 'informative' is the word, but educational, perhaps. |
00:05 |
cads |
Oh, all processes have natural filtrations. |
00:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, one thing I remember vividly from undergrad is that the nepali students were some of the chillest people on campus, but woe unto the football player who took a fancy to a Nepali girl and was then introduced to a cricket bat. |
00:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.0058 = 0.435 BTC [+] |
00:16 |
asciilifeform |
;;rate MagicalTux -10 pathetic Judas Goat. |
00:17 |
gribble |
Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user MagicalTux has been recorded. |
00:17 |
mircea_popescu |
since i was digging records : |
00:17 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-06-2013&bots=true#93021 |
00:17 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
00:17 |
mircea_popescu |
"Effective immediately, we are discontinuing all business operations pending a business model review. At this time we are unsure when, and if we will resume operations in the future." |
00:17 |
mircea_popescu |
guess the venue. |
00:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Vircurex |
00:18 |
BingoBoingo |
Vircurex used AurumExchange for USD and EU deposits |
00:20 |
mircea_popescu |
was aurum but hey. |
00:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, AurumExchange was one of those liberty reserve outposts. |
00:20 |
BingoBoingo |
Bitpay was willing to pay into them so they at least had a bong |
00:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1169 @ 0.00573669 = 6.7062 BTC [-] {8} |
00:25 |
MisterE |
any of you get burned on your shorts yesterday? |
00:25 |
MisterE |
KRS1: I'm looking at you :p |
00:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2500 @ 0.00084022 = 2.1006 BTC [-] {8} |
00:27 |
asciilifeform |
'Effective immediately, we are discontinuing all breathing pending an atmospheric gas review. At this time we are unsure when, and if we will resume breathing in the future.' |
00:27 |
asciilifeform |
StercumExchange (tm) |
00:27 |
MisterE |
seems reasonable, it is a nuisance |
00:27 |
MisterE |
like bathing and food |
00:28 |
BingoBoingo |
.d |
00:28 |
ozbot |
3.130 billion | Next Diff in 429 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.9917% in 2d 8h 50m 18s |
00:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Everything is a nuisance nao. |
00:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 355 @ 0.00584348 = 2.0744 BTC [+] {3} |
00:30 |
MisterE |
BingoBoingo: what you up to? |
00:30 |
BingoBoingo |
MisterE: Enjoying sweet Gox death and hoping for Slashot victory |
00:31 |
MisterE |
heh I guess that makes 2 of us |
00:31 |
MisterE |
and update on the /. front? |
00:31 |
BingoBoingo |
MisterE: I have this package of patented dense -assets knowledge sitting on orage and waiting http://slashdot.org/submission/3366357/mtgox-collapse-should-come-as-no-suprise |
00:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00087927 = 13.8045 BTC [-] |
00:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2808 @ 0.0008788 = 2.4677 BTC [-] |
00:51 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/ |
00:51 |
ozbot |
A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - U |
00:51 |
mircea_popescu |
if anyone sees anything missing... |
00:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6292 @ 0.00087803 = 5.5246 BTC [-] |
00:52 |
mircea_popescu |
cads im not even sure. |
00:52 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps brigher minds could advise. |
00:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 128 @ 0.00088929 = 0.1138 BTC [+] {2} |
00:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005879 = 0.294 BTC [+] |
00:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.0008891 = 0.1778 BTC [-] |
00:54 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Seems thorough. |
00:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.132 BTC [+] |
00:56 |
nubbins` |
actually got eulora compiled! but forgot to install a ton of required crystalspace libraries... so didn't get much other than a white screen with "welcome to eulora 0.0.4" |
00:56 |
nubbins` |
but... progress |
00:56 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` wd! |
00:57 |
mircea_popescu |
i hear wiki too ? |
00:57 |
BingoBoingo |
The april 2013 trilema article on GOx is about to make slashdot frontpage. |
00:57 |
mircea_popescu |
cool |
00:57 |
nubbins` |
yeah mike_c is sorting out hosting, i've got a saucy domain name reg'd |
00:58 |
BingoBoingo |
I mean unless @magicaltux does the manual sorting |
00:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0047 = 0.1598 BTC [+] |
00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform re your video : it made me think of this caragiale piece (playwright, 1800s) : http://www.ilcaragiale.eu/opere/momente_si_schite/intelectualii.html |
00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
" Sunt chelneri cari, dupa cat au prins pe apucate din dezbaterile si conferintele intelectualilor, pot face mart pe un profesor de universitate, mai ales daca l-or lua repede." |
01:00 |
bitcoinpete |
Howdy y'all |
01:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"there are waiters who, from all they've heard from conversations and debates of intellectuals, could put away a university professor, especially should they proceed quickly" |
01:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6675 @ 0.00087803 = 5.8609 BTC [-] |
01:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1673 @ 0.00018499 = 0.3095 BTC [+] {3} |
01:00 |
mircea_popescu |
mart specifically refers to the loss in backgammon when you lose without having taken out any of your own pieces. |
01:00 |
mircea_popescu |
bitcoinpete heya |
01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
https://twitter.com/bobmcmillan/status/438521842358177793 happened |
01:01 |
ozbot |
Twitter / bobmcmillan: "Having Mt. Gox shut down is ... |
01:01 |
bitcoinpete |
Been a few, but I've been up on the logs |
01:02 |
bitcoinpete |
And I did that blog thing again |
01:02 |
bitcoinpete |
Perhaps also for noobs |
01:02 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, link again? |
01:02 |
bitcoinpete |
http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/matters-of-merchant-adoption/ |
01:02 |
ozbot |
Matters of Merchant Adoption | When Bitcoin Met Pete |
01:03 |
bitcoinpete |
Hardly revelatory, but it's a reassessment of sorts of my previous notion that one should ever try to make "bitcoin more accessible" |
01:03 |
bitcoinpete |
Which was a strange mental default I had to correct |
01:03 |
BingoBoingo |
It is an important step forward though |
01:04 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: this probably wasn't the purpose of 'compendium of basic points...,' but now i'm marvelling over the ancient forum garbage |
01:05 |
asciilifeform |
did some chump really build a whatever-the-fuck with a set of leaked sources? |
01:05 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Can they build any other way? |
01:05 |
asciilifeform |
and if so, why weren't the obligatory logic bombs set off |
01:06 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Not advantageous enough yet? |
01:06 |
asciilifeform |
(or, are we to think that scammers write honest code) |
01:06 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yes. |
01:06 |
asciilifeform |
and did all of this shit really go down, or was it a dream. |
01:06 |
mircea_popescu |
bitfinex (the thing which now is misreported as > 30% of the bitcoin average usd price) |
01:06 |
mircea_popescu |
is built out of taking the leaked bitcoinica sources and running them |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
they were (illegally) leaked by amir taaki, who in he process exposed sensitive passwords |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
which resulted in the 3rd theft from there |
01:07 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
and in no case was he authorised to "make open source" the codebase |
01:07 |
BingoBoingo |
The mysterious antiques dealer |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
which is currently the only asset some new zealand executor has to try and repay the creditors |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
to the tune of i forged, but 10's of k's of btc |
01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
(mtgox also had some funds held "in escrow" from that debacle, |
01:08 |
mircea_popescu |
which it had been consistently refused to turn out to said executor) |
01:08 |
mircea_popescu |
for the obvious reasons. |
01:08 |
BingoBoingo |
At least New Zealand tries to earn the money back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlcIKh6sBtc |
01:09 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps these folks belong in a large glass jar. where they are to feed upon one another, and the last one remaining to be extracted and will perhaps be good for something. |
01:10 |
BingoBoingo |
I dunno that I'd have made it out of a decent glass jar. I mean I initially came here from Bitcointalk |
01:10 |
asciilifeform |
not everyone into the jar. just them. |
01:10 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the reason i always encourage people to read the history is quite this : endlessly fascinatingly amusing thing. |
01:10 |
mircea_popescu |
like a perpetual morning after. "did what ?!" |
01:11 |
bitcoinpete |
going to bubble tea, yup, bubble tea… be back |
01:11 |
benkay |
bubble tea |
01:11 |
benkay |
balls in your mouth |
01:11 |
benkay |
never figured that tone out |
01:12 |
BingoBoingo |
So many mistakes I could have made, but so much more money I could have had even losing to those mistakes |
01:12 |
nubbins` |
remember "orbits"? |
01:12 |
BingoBoingo |
The problem is a need for time machines |
01:12 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: fascinating, to a point. children playing with detcord. |
01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
01:13 |
BingoBoingo |
Detcord isn't that bad |
01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform precisely. |
01:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00087922 = 8.6164 BTC [+] |
01:15 |
asciilifeform |
was the cribbed source even interesting in some way? |
01:15 |
asciilifeform |
or just the usual 'work is too much like work, let's crib it all' |
01:16 |
nubbins` |
"hey, why reinvent the wheel?" |
01:16 |
asciilifeform |
(this tale has me in an especially dour mood, given that not long ago i sent a once-promising client packing because he brought in a mountain of artlessly cribbed open source code.) |
01:19 |
BingoBoingo |
I am the wheel, you seriously don't want to deal with me. You need to reinvent me. |
01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/a-compendium-of-basic-points-about-bitcoin-for-the-benefit-of-various-confused-noobs/#footnote_0_52959 << added that which i regret i forgot on the first pass |
01:19 |
ozbot |
A compendium of basic points about Bitcoin for the benefit of various confused noobs. pe Trilema - U |
01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i am sloppy ;/. |
01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the cribbed source was interesting, yes, in the way of humor. |
01:20 |
MisterE |
what is cribbed in American? |
01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
have you read the leaked discussions about the historical operation of bitcoinica ? |
01:20 |
asciilifeform |
nope |
01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
it;s linked from the recent mtgox article, because it's the same pattern |
01:20 |
mircea_popescu |
self trading at a loss. |
01:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: self trading at a loss << arse-mouth system. |
01:21 |
asciilifeform |
thermodynamically doomed |
01:21 |
BingoBoingo |
But Bitcoinica had relic hunterz!!!! |
01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo ironically... relics ? scavenger world ? thermodynamically doomed ? |
01:22 |
mircea_popescu |
this, incidentally, is the core and the whole of nsa's value proposition : people sign, subtly, but definitely, what they do. |
01:22 |
nubbins` |
MisterE: baseball |
01:22 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: indeed |
01:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00088029 = 11.7959 BTC [+] {2} |
01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
course in a sense nsa as it is stands in a relation to nsa-as-thus-described about roughly as that merry bunch of Meriwether's thieves stood with THEIR sensible value proposition |
01:23 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: Any sporting analogy is best as a baseball analogy, the greatest precision is there. Even if the metric is love of the cunts |
01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
as explained in http://trilema.com/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ : "LTCM collected over one billion dollars in capital. If youve been following up to here you probably have a question in your mind : what in the world were they going to do with a billion of their own money ? Good question. The fund had access to heavy leverage, as high as 100:1 in many cases. One billion leveraged 100:1 means one hundred billio |
01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
n, and turn it any way you please theres not going to be room for deplyoing a hundred billion in capital for the purpose of arbitraging minute differences between the 29 y T and the current T. There just cant be. |
01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
So they started dicking around with stock options, betting on mergers, the works. " |
01:23 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, they had a good idea, got too much resources, fucked up. |
01:23 |
asciilifeform |
channelling herr naggum: 'It is like going to a library full of books that took 50 man-years to produce each, inventing a way to cut down the costs to a few man-months per book by copying and randomly improving on other books, and then wondering why nobody thinks your library full of these cheaper books is an inspiration to future authors.' |
| |
↖ ↖ ↖ |
01:24 |
BingoBoingo |
This is wy I bet on sporting events, I know I can lose. |
01:25 |
BingoBoingo |
puppies.txt |
01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete you should get into the wot and remind me to put you in the bloglist sometime. |
01:26 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell chatquack I put you in the WOT start blogging already |
01:26 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
01:27 |
nubbins` |
crystal space is a massive build |
01:27 |
chetty |
yeah CS is huge |
01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
it's been working out. |
01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
nubbins`: I am starting this baseball betting venture with one hundredth of a bitcoin. Remember that I can not help it if appreciation makes the logistics you dislike a reality. |
01:28 |
Jere_Jones |
I found building CS to be the easy part. |
01:28 |
nubbins` |
BingoBoingo, i'm pretty zen about most things |
01:28 |
mircea_popescu |
http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ |
01:29 |
ozbot |
BitBet - BTC/USD at MtGox will be above $150 on Mar 1st 2014 |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
so that's a lock now. |
01:29 |
nubbins` |
Jere_Jones: easy, just takes so long |
01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
I wonder if Zhou tong ever itches? |
01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: And the weighting is the best part |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo well it's closed by now anyway |
01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
The right answer is obvious, but betting agaisnt it can't pay |
01:29 |
nubbins` |
thank fuck for macports, i wouldn't have gotten anywhere with apple's fork of LLVM |
01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` you ever found the problem or just nonspecific kludge ? |
01:31 |
nubbins` |
never nailed it down, was easier to just install gcc-4.6 and use that |
01:31 |
nubbins` |
no sense trying to bring a totally different toolchain into the mix |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
not surprising. |
01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.voxeu.org/article/german-court-decision-legal-authority-and-deep-power-implications |
01:32 |
ozbot |
German Court decision: Legal authority and deep power implications | vox |
01:32 |
mircea_popescu |
germanz just ruled ecb may not act as lender of last resort. |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"Its tempting to dismiss the decision as incomprehensible legalese or the inability of justices to understand that contemporary financial systems rely on a powerful lender or dealer of last resort to weather financial crises." |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
derp. |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
" this is a bid for power and the return to the pre-crisis paradigm of " |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
derp. |
01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
basically the consensus of idiots in fiat is that somehow magically the laws of nature have been cancelled for the sake of convenience. |
01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
GO GO GADGET BITCOINSACHS |
01:42 |
chetty |
idiots think man can overrule nature with their 'laws' |
01:42 |
KRS1 |
go go bait |
01:42 |
KRS1 |
.bait |
01:42 |
ozbot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/1dbdf72d9ae5a578dbcf945e2bc4cd94/tumblr_mg2axxCOYL1r3bnmvo1_1280.jpg |
01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Depends on which laws and the context |
01:43 |
BingoBoingo |
On that last .bait I see tits, but there is also a screaming cyst that needs lanced and dranied |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
"Founder @dailymuse, YC alum, Inc 15 Women to Watch in Tech 2012, Advisor @hackbright, Productivity expert, Parisian, Former McKinsey, avid cyclist" |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder what the thought process is when some chick ends up putting on her 2 line resume "i was a X to watch in 2102" |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
doesn't the observation that "soo... if i had been watching you since 2012 i'd have seen nothing ?" come to them at all ? |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
are these people actually dumb ? |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
but i mean if you have two alcoholic bums sitting on a garbage dumpster somewhere |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
one who is nothing |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
and the other who is an alumni of "15 aluminum salesmen to watch in 2012" |
01:44 |
mircea_popescu |
wouldn't you say the 2nd is much worse a failure ? |
01:45 |
nubbins` |
heh |
01:45 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo where's the cyst ? |
01:45 |
nubbins` |
armpit? i think that's not a cyst |
01:45 |
mircea_popescu |
that's fat imo |
01:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Left armpit, the purple prominence |
01:45 |
nubbins` |
certainly not screaming |
01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
she's losing weight |
01:46 |
mircea_popescu |
its colored cause shaved irritation |
01:46 |
nubbins` |
i had a massive cyst on my back once |
01:46 |
MisterE |
mircea_popescu: ime most people are dumb until proven otherwise |
01:46 |
MisterE |
happens nubbins` thats not a bad lace |
01:46 |
MisterE |
place |
01:46 |
nubbins` |
when it finally got drained there was like a shot glass full of stuff pulled out of it |
01:46 |
BingoBoingo |
Maybe irritation, but definitely inflamed more than the prominence of the humerous calls for |
01:46 |
MisterE |
try in your groin or neck |
01:47 |
MisterE |
BingoBoingo: what's up I was a paramedic for 3-years |
01:47 |
MisterE |
in the US |
01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/438539797205118976 << BingoBoingo check it out |
01:47 |
ozbot |
Twitter / CharlieShrem: Just created a #dogecoin wallet ... |
01:47 |
mircea_popescu |
lots and lots of further opportunities for maturity |
01:48 |
MisterE |
nubbins`: that's nothing, when I had to do my prctical training hours I helped to drain a lot of cysts and some produce by the liter |
01:48 |
BingoBoingo |
I dun want to fight credentials, but it look's like there are already two candidate sinuses |
01:48 |
nubbins` |
gross |
01:48 |
nubbins` |
such a smell, too |
01:48 |
nubbins` |
that shit attracts ticks |
01:48 |
MisterE |
it was indeed |
01:48 |
MisterE |
man you have no idea the smells of the human body |
01:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00087874 = 34.183 BTC [-] {4} |
01:49 |
MisterE |
one of the worst run was a girl who accidentally blew half her boyfriend's head off with a .44 at a shooting range, was totally prepared for smell |
01:49 |
MisterE |
those 44s have a very soft pul |
01:49 |
MisterE |
l |
01:49 |
nubbins` |
speaking of smells of the human body, one of my roommates took a shit this morning and left a streak on the toilet seat |
01:49 |
MisterE |
bastard |
01:49 |
nubbins` |
i know |
01:50 |
BingoBoingo |
44's always have a soft pull |
01:50 |
nubbins` |
told him about it |
01:50 |
MisterE |
you should leave a streak on his pillow |
01:50 |
nubbins` |
he says "i don't think so... but i'll clean it when i get home from work" |
01:50 |
MisterE |
ok thats reasonable |
01:50 |
nubbins` |
as if we'd just leave it there for 10 hours |
01:50 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` how many roomates you got ?! |
01:50 |
MisterE |
he doesn't sound like a total jerk |
01:50 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu, wife and 2 others |
01:50 |
mircea_popescu |
wow |
01:50 |
nubbins` |
they're rarely home. haven't seen one of them in 3 weeks |
01:50 |
MisterE |
lol I like how he incudes the wife |
01:51 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` so you live with silk road funder ? |
01:51 |
MisterE |
as if shecould be out for not paying rent :D |
01:51 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: silk road 3.11 for workgroups |
01:51 |
nubbins` |
i think that's what it's at now? |
01:52 |
mircea_popescu |
something like that ya |
01:52 |
nubbins` |
MisterE: hey, she owns all the bitcoins |
01:52 |
nubbins` |
i might be the one out when they hit 5k ;D |
01:53 |
MisterE |
hehe |
01:53 |
MisterE |
trade up! |
01:53 |
BingoBoingo |
I honestly want to take bets on what would culture out of that cyst |
01:54 |
nubbins` |
we'll never know |
01:54 |
MisterE |
what a loss to science and society |
01:54 |
MisterE |
shame |
01:55 |
BingoBoingo |
I'd put some money on pseumonanas |
01:56 |
mircea_popescu |
pseudomonas ? |
01:57 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: It is a long shot, but it fits the armpit environment well as a genus |
01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of which : pseudomonas putida is the first living thing that was "patented" according to the us courts. |
01:58 |
mircea_popescu |
lulziest shit ever. |
01:58 |
MisterE |
Stupid Harvard MBA is stupid |
01:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00087993 = 5.3676 BTC [+] |
01:58 |
MisterE |
sorry w/c |
01:59 |
benkay |
may the patenteers all find themselves impaled on golden spikes |
01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
I was kind of hoping someone would catch that |
01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
this thing is valuable because it can break down pretty much anything |
01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
it can live off caffeine. it can break down polystyrene |
01:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Much scarier than VRE for sure |
02:00 |
mircea_popescu |
generaly pseudomonas sp is a good bet for BingoBoingo's purposes cause they're pretty metabolically diverse. |
02:00 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: indeed any culture platter they can own enough to make their genetic markers known. |
02:02 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: i'm to see you for a login account? |
02:07 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/bGBRONP |
02:07 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
02:07 |
nubbins` |
^ it worked :D |
02:07 |
bitcoinpete |
mircea_popescu will do, ty |
02:08 |
nubbins` |
it picks up mouse clicks but not keyboard input -- but it's very late and i think i've earned a nap, will poke some more tomorrow |
02:08 |
BingoBoingo |
pseudomonas does indeed lead to some nasty opportunistic infections though |
02:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Of the sort where painting on Staph Aureus and hoping for the best seems like a sheat from heaven. |
02:12 |
bitcoinpete |
Do any of the -asseters live in Brussels or London by chance? I'm heading to Brussels tomorrow and London by the weekend. Have some free time |
02:13 |
BingoBoingo |
So... Maybe I should have tried for sunday night again on this. Slash mods are swfully flaky. http://slashdot.org/submission/3366357/mtgox-collapse-should-come-as-no-suprise |
02:13 |
bitcoinpete |
;;ident [<bitcoinpete>] |
02:13 |
gribble |
Error: "<bitcoinpete>" is not a valid command. |
02:13 |
bitcoinpete |
;;ident bitcoinpete |
02:13 |
gribble |
Nick 'bitcoinpete', with hostmask 'bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net', is not identified. |
02:15 |
bitcoinpete |
for php registration is the "pgp long id" the fingerprint, key id, or something else…? |
02:15 |
bitcoinpete |
pgp* goodness |
02:16 |
Duffer1 |
;;eauth / ;;everify |
02:16 |
Duffer1 |
is that what you're asking? |
02:18 |
bitcoinpete |
ya |
02:18 |
BingoBoingo |
;;puppies.txt |
02:18 |
gribble |
Error: "puppies.txt" is not a valid command. |
02:18 |
bitcoinpete |
;;register too |
02:18 |
gribble |
(register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. |
02:18 |
bitcoinpete |
oh |
02:19 |
bitcoinpete |
;;register bitcoinpete165749929F9A6BDD |
02:19 |
gribble |
(register <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a random passphrase to clearsign with your key, and submit to the bot with the 'verify' command. Your passphrase will expire in 10 minutes. |
02:19 |
bitcoinpete |
;;register bitcoinpete 165749929F9A6BDD |
02:20 |
gribble |
Request successful for user bitcoinpete, hostmask bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:18734ee36446b6cc0398dc32a80c3bb1d3217aad8b2666f6ab017248 |
02:20 |
BingoBoingo |
So.. Guess wht I found out this weekend. |
02:21 |
Duffer1 |
what did you find out this weekend BingoBoingo? |
02:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Duffer1: During one of my grad school stints I lived in the super mega ghetto http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/local/columbia-firefighter-dies-working-at-scene-of-walkway-collapse/article_fc7f1992-9bca-11e3-9d9e-0017a43b2370.html |
02:23 |
BingoBoingo |
I knew my apartment was shitty, but not like kill experts in shitty apartments kind of shitty |
02:23 |
Duffer1 |
ya wow |
02:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Kind of makes me regret not taking the plaster off of the walls |
02:25 |
BingoBoingo |
Also, I used to like to park in those spots |
02:26 |
Duffer1 |
reading about Counterparty atm |
02:26 |
BingoBoingo |
Cool, better not be that shitty faux coin version |
02:28 |
Duffer1 |
the caliber of the assets assimilated blogs is impressive |
02:29 |
Duffer1 |
it would be nice to see it mentioned in #bitcoin-assets Topic |
02:31 |
BingoBoingo |
assass is decent blog |
02:33 |
bit14 |
what's going on with havelock |
02:33 |
dexX7 |
assass? |
02:34 |
Duffer1 |
http://assass.headfucking.net/ |
02:34 |
ozbot |
Assets Assimilated |
02:34 |
BingoBoingo |
bit14: No idea Maybe they are dying too? |
02:35 |
BingoBoingo |
I await my ban on bitcointalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431195.msg5379874#msg5379874 |
02:36 |
dexX7 |
ty |
02:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22536 @ 0.00087782 = 19.7826 BTC [-] {2} |
02:38 |
bitcoinpete |
;;eregister bitcoinpete 165749929F9A6BDD |
02:38 |
gribble |
Request successful for user bitcoinpete, hostmask bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/165749929F9A6BDD |
02:39 |
mircea_popescu |
5th a cxharm huh |
02:40 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah assass in topic can't hurt anything. |
02:42 |
bitcoinpete |
;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:97d9f908fe5dc08ba4be74efe1b4430c5e68d071e34fbed3e1771a9d |
02:42 |
gribble |
Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user bitcoinpete with key 165749929F9A6BDD |
02:44 |
BingoBoingo |
I still reload slashdot compulsively for the money |
02:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/people-have-made-blogs/#comment-98222 |
02:46 |
ozbot |
People have made blogs pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
02:47 |
BingoBoingo |
I still have trouble believing I lived in the shithole next to this http://www.kshb.com/news/state/missouri/mizzou-investigating-cause-of-roof-walkway-collapse-at-apartment-building |
02:48 |
mircea_popescu |
the sex any good at least ? |
02:48 |
BingoBoingo |
The sex was great |
02:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00087911 = 13.5383 BTC [+] {3} |
02:49 |
BingoBoingo |
i TA's for pharmacy school so undergrads were in bounds, other grad students were inbounds. |
02:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Just couldn't do the pharm students. |
02:50 |
mircea_popescu |
well that's why people live in shitholes. |
02:50 |
mircea_popescu |
the sex is great. |
02:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Which is kind of a shame cause this Jessie chick had great tits |
02:50 |
BingoBoingo |
OH, it was such a shithole, but not being from missouti made the sex so easy |
02:53 |
mircea_popescu |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8w0x8uPW11ru15g3o1_1280.jpg |
02:54 |
bitcoinpete |
;;gettrust bitcoinpete |
02:54 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask bitcoinpete!~bitcoinpe@S01060016cbc6cced.ed.shawcable.net. Trust relationship from user bitcoinpete to user bitcoinpete: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=bitcoinpete&dest=bitcoinpete | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoinpete | Rated since: never |
02:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wd. |
02:54 |
BingoBoingo |
If that were a pharm student not quite one I'd get fired over, but still one I'd offer salt to to melt their ice |
02:55 |
mircea_popescu |
bit14 what do you mean ? |
02:55 |
bitcoinpete |
ty. only took 30 min lol |
02:56 |
bit14 |
mircea_popescu: doar ca e picat https://www.havelockinvestments.com/ :) |
02:58 |
BingoBoingo |
bit14: Gospidine? |
02:58 |
bit14 |
->just that it's down |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2014/02/25/mt-gox-ceo-says-on-internet-chat-hasnt-given-up/ |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
you know, just like every scammer to date. |
03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
bit14 lol se mai intimpla gen |
03:00 |
bit14 |
have you seen the log |
03:00 |
bit14 |
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/179038-my-conversation-mark-karpeles-mtgox-2.html#post2164682 |
03:00 |
ozbot |
My Conversation with Mark Karpeles of MtGox - Page 2 - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum - Int |
03:01 |
mircea_popescu |
soo nubs got eulora to compile on a mac. |
03:03 |
bitcoinpete |
off to brussels in the morning. cheers for now |
03:09 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought moiety was in london |
03:12 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: I thought moiety was in Glasgow |
03:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00088123 = 18.594 BTC [+] {3} |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
03:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00087825 = 24.7667 BTC [-] {2} |
03:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00087764 = 8.2498 BTC [-] |
03:47 |
BingoBoingo |
Slashdot still seems to possess doubts, WHy? I dunno http://slashdot.org/submission/3366357/mtgox-collapse-should-come-as-no-suprise |
03:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.0008852 = 2.4786 BTC [+] |
04:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Imma sleep soon |
04:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Slashdot has denied me for hours, but they cannot do so indefinitely |
04:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00088277 = 4.0607 BTC [-] |
04:16 |
bit14 |
havelock has been down for over 6 hours now, does this happen often? |
04:17 |
bit14 |
I assume they didn't run and it's early AM in canada, but still |
04:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00088406 = 12.8189 BTC [+] |
04:33 |
cazalla |
shrem seems to think that leaked document is legit |
04:37 |
Duffer1 |
didn't shrem also think that gox was fundamentally sound and not insolvent? |
04:40 |
cazalla |
i think that was prior to that document leaking, latest episode of lets talk bitcoin has shrem on it, interesting listen |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
04:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00088277 = 9.2691 BTC [-] |
05:03 |
Namworld |
Havelock isn't in Canada |
05:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00088356 = 1.9438 BTC [+] |
05:04 |
bit14 |
where is it? |
05:05 |
wao-ender |
lol |
05:05 |
wao-ender |
that havellock database |
05:05 |
wao-ender |
"Database seems down. Sorry about that. We've been notified about the problem. Please try again later. |
05:05 |
wao-ender |
bit14: Panama afaik |
05:06 |
ArsKisS |
hmm |
05:10 |
bit14 |
they're called the Panama fund I think, but I thought they were canadian |
05:11 |
bit14 |
I might be wrong |
05:12 |
Duffer1 |
they were based in canada during the acquisition, no idea if the principles/office/servers have moved though |
05:12 |
bit14 |
https://web.archive.org/web/20140214223804/https://www.havelockinvestments.com/contact.php |
05:12 |
bit14 |
Address: |
05:12 |
bit14 |
The Panama Fund, S.A |
05:12 |
bit14 |
Panama City |
05:12 |
bit14 |
Republic of Panama |
05:13 |
bit14 |
company could be registered there, but staff might be elsewhere |
05:14 |
Duffer1 |
odd timing for server issues, i wonder if they held reserves at gox |
05:14 |
bit14 |
it's 5am in panama, so maybe they're just asleep, crossing fingers |
05:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6724 @ 0.00088327 = 5.9391 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
05:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6152 @ 0.00088186 = 5.4252 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 23 minutes ~ |
05:55 |
Namworld |
The old owner, Topace, was Canadian I think. Now it moved. Where the staff is located, I do not know. |
06:02 |
bit14 |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=859 |
06:02 |
ozbot |
View the profile of lightbox |
06:03 |
bit14 |
looks like this guy was/is the owner |
06:09 |
Namworld |
yeah, he was. Known as Topace in IRC |
06:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10776 @ 0.00088192 = 9.5036 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
06:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://www.news.com.au/world/tin-cans-filled-with-10-million-in-gold-coins-found-buried-in-california/story-fndir2ev-1226837801851 |
06:33 |
ozbot |
Tin cans filled with $10 million in gold coins found buried in California | |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
06:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11726 @ 0.0008852 = 10.3799 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 32 minutes ~ |
07:22 |
jurov |
http://boingboing.net/2014/02/25/choosing-a-secure-password.html schneier misses xkcd's point entirely |
07:22 |
ozbot |
Choosing a Secure Password - Boing Boing |
07:23 |
jurov |
if i had doubts he's nsa shill, now i have none |
07:28 |
davout |
"A typical password consists of a root plus an appendage." <<< bwhahaha |
07:30 |
davout |
"http://boingboing.net/2014/02/25/choosing-a-secure-password.html schneier misses xkcd's point entirely" <<< yep, someone should teach him about entropy |
| |
~ 20 minutes ~ |
07:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0008835 = 9.3651 BTC [-] |
07:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
omg boingboing.net hurts my eyes, it also doesn't show any text on my android tablet |
07:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
(the yellow text black bg page) |
07:59 |
Namworld |
I have a mix of letters, numbers and special chars. Strangely enough, I don't seem to have a problem remembering most of them. |
08:00 |
dexX7 |
i don't know my passwords and trust keepass |
08:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont share hints to my password methods |
08:06 |
Namworld |
Saying your password is a random mix of characters doesn't help much. So it's not really a hint. |
08:07 |
Namworld |
You remove non-random stuff. You have less than 0.1% of possibilities eliminated. Congratulations. Still requires bruteforcing it. |
08:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://www.mtgox.com/ |
08:13 |
ozbot |
MtGox.com loading |
08:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00088467 = 7.1658 BTC [+] {2} |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
08:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00088514 = 5.9304 BTC [+] |
08:33 |
MisterE |
wtf LTC went over 40 today? |
08:33 |
MisterE |
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btce/ltcusd |
08:35 |
dexX7 |
huh? |
08:36 |
dexX7 |
ah |
08:36 |
dexX7 |
nvm |
08:36 |
Namworld |
So many people think MtGox is Bitcoin. |
08:36 |
dexX7 |
https://blockchain.info/tx/e6d4cfbbc45b5e3cfcfa36613b04a8732c7b4606f5dbbd8af3ba06d8f3899fc2 |
08:36 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Transaction e6d4cfbbc45b5e3cfcfa36613b04a8732c7b4606f5dbbd8af3ba06d8f3899fc2 |
08:36 |
Duffer1 |
just imagine if blockchain.info goes down |
08:37 |
Duffer1 |
the blockchain is down!1234 |
08:37 |
dexX7 |
luckily there is www.blockr.io now |
08:37 |
Duffer1 |
ya saw that earlier |
08:37 |
Duffer1 |
nice lookin site |
08:40 |
adrrrr |
dexX7: what are these vanity adress, I thought we can choose only few characters |
08:44 |
dexX7 |
you don't need the privkey, simply send it to whateveraddress+checksum |
08:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00088224 = 39.6126 BTC [-] {4} |
08:47 |
jurov |
so, i used my idignation as fuel: http://explo.yt/post/2014/02/26/Bruce-Schneier-passwords-fail |
08:49 |
adrrrr |
dexX7: so it will create the public key? |
08:50 |
dexX7 |
what "it"? |
08:51 |
dexX7 |
try to think of making a phonecall to a number that is not in use.. will work, right? even if you dial funny numbers? |
08:58 |
adrrrr |
"it" is the transaction |
08:58 |
adrrrr |
a phone number that is not in use will not even ring |
08:58 |
adrrrr |
right? |
09:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00088331 = 13.7355 BTC [+] |
09:12 |
bit14 |
looks like havelock is finally back up |
09:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22550 @ 0.00088502 = 19.9572 BTC [+] {5} |
09:20 |
nubbins` |
HI |
09:22 |
deadweasel |
"Pretty much anything that can be remembered can be cracked." From Schneier piece. |
09:23 |
adrrrr |
yeah 24h we heard things about password ! thx |
09:23 |
deadweasel |
wtf are you on about, adrrrr ? |
09:27 |
adrrrr |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mWkY5yIAnc&feature=youtu.be |
09:27 |
ozbot |
MtGox Saga Continues - Update 25 Feb 2014 - YouTube |
09:27 |
adrrrr |
voila ! |
09:27 |
adrrrr |
;) |
09:28 |
deadweasel |
yeah 24h we heard things about mtgox ! thx |
09:29 |
adrrrr |
lol |
09:29 |
adrrrr |
deadweasel: Duuuhhh |
09:30 |
adrrrr |
you should watch it instead of mocking ;) |
09:30 |
deadweasel |
i don't even know what I just, I was just mirroring you. |
09:30 |
deadweasel |
missing word: said* |
09:30 |
* |
deadweasel mocks first, watches later |
09:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://i.imgur.com/PHgbXXc.gif |
09:32 |
Bugpowder |
SFW? |
09:32 |
mircea_popescu |
ya |
09:32 |
mircea_popescu |
powered off kitten |
09:32 |
Bugpowder |
lol |
09:32 |
Bugpowder |
pretty SFW |
09:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26098 @ 0.00088294 = 23.043 BTC [-] {2} |
09:33 |
mircea_popescu |
since when do you work anyway |
09:33 |
Bugpowder |
All the fucking time |
09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
well no i don't mean work in the sense of doing something useful |
09:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean work in the sense of being in a constrained space with a bunch of idiots where you gotta watch what's on your screen |
09:35 |
mircea_popescu |
ie, the exactly opposite of doing something useful. |
09:36 |
chetty |
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/first-contagious-wifi-computer-virus-goes-airborne-spreads-like-the-common-cold/ |
09:36 |
ozbot |
First contagious WiFi computer virus goes airborne | The Daily Caller |
09:37 |
mircea_popescu |
uh why'd a virus be specifically wifi |
09:37 |
Bugpowder |
I thought there was that virus that spreads via the speaker (or was that BS). |
09:38 |
cazalla |
the one that could jump airgapped systems? |
09:38 |
cazalla |
that was bs |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder that was bs. |
09:38 |
mircea_popescu |
darn beat to it |
09:39 |
Bugpowder |
It made no cents. |
09:41 |
Bugpowder |
I am really impressed with the level of optimism people are expressing towards Gox reopening. IMPRESSED. I hear there are 3 suitors vying for the right to purchase Mt. Gox's brand and 650,000 BTC debt. |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
yaya |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
take it as a measure of just how badly hurt the foundation scamnest is by this defeat in the field |
09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
rather than any direct statement of the future. |
09:42 |
Bugpowder |
HOPE |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
no, it's not hope, it's disbelief. |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
they rheally thought they're somebody worth something. |
09:42 |
Bugpowder |
Someone needs to shop a Karp / HOPE poster |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
and i guess still do. |
09:42 |
mircea_popescu |
more apt would be a vessenes hope poster really. |
09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
hopefully his head is next. now that's hope. |
09:43 |
cazalla |
you know why i hate vessenes |
09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i didn't know you did. |
09:43 |
cazalla |
well i do but for different reasons that you |
09:44 |
Bugpowder |
CoinLab was more mismanaged than Gox, they just died earlier so they couldn't cause as big a monetary fuckup. |
09:44 |
cazalla |
on a panel, he ruined it because he had the microphone practically in his mouth and you couldn't hear the other panelists due to his heavy breathing |
09:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't actually hate the guy, i just dislike him because he's very inept strategically and we kinda need to purge the stupid. |
09:45 |
nubbins` |
vessenes "NOPE" poster |
09:45 |
nubbins` |
the kitten got turned off ;( |
09:45 |
mircea_popescu |
or maybe it's time for a HERP poster |
09:46 |
nubbins` |
heh |
09:46 |
nubbins` |
i like that |
09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
can i has link to your clown thing again ? |
09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ima order the MP css dept make me one. |
09:46 |
nubbins` |
ah, refresh my memory |
09:46 |
cazalla |
anyone that abset minded on microphone etiquette sends me into a rage |
09:46 |
cazalla |
absent |
09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
didn't you do a vessenes clown thing ? |
09:46 |
nubbins` |
oh, right, i think that was tat |
09:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00088085 = 19.0704 BTC [-] {3} |
09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla this is kind of sad, incidentally, because it's roughly like a stripper with bad genital hygiene |
09:47 |
nubbins` |
2, maybe 3 days ago? |
09:47 |
cazalla |
sad for me or him |
09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
all the guy ever does is derp about in the conference freakshow, you'd expect he has at least the basics of that profession down pat. |
09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla for him. |
09:48 |
mircea_popescu |
imagine a truck driver that can't drive double clutch. |
09:48 |
cazalla |
i sent him an email but he didn't respond |
09:48 |
nubbins` |
i had a professor once who could only speak in a whisper and so brought a mic to class and amplified it so heavily you could hear him swallow his spit |
09:48 |
mircea_popescu |
sort-of like a vessenes that can't handle a mic |
09:48 |
nubbins` |
he would freeze if anyone made a sound (like opening a bookbag, etc) |
09:48 |
nubbins` |
mid-syllable sometimes |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
at the one uni where i sort-of flirted with academia, this was banned on campus. |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
the rector guy was like "if you can't speak you can't be a university professor." |
09:49 |
nubbins` |
heh |
09:49 |
nubbins` |
it's true |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i know it is. |
09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
i always respected that guy. occasionally obnoxious but he had what you'd need from a rector : fucking rectitude. |
09:50 |
nubbins` |
one day (this was a logic course), the poor guy (ancient chinese man) was dreaming up an example for some logical fallacy |
09:50 |
nubbins` |
"statement one: all cats have four legs" |
09:50 |
nubbins` |
"statement two: some cats dig my music" |
09:50 |
nubbins` |
i had to leave the room D; |
09:50 |
mircea_popescu |
ergo, women walk on their tits. |
09:51 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` btw, you know the "great generals" machine learning fiasco ? |
09:51 |
nubbins` |
doesn't ring a bell |
09:52 |
mircea_popescu |
this is probably apocriphal as such, but it is reflective of various actual events. normally it's retold as |
09:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"at mit, they made this self-learning machine which would try to make deductions sylogistically on a dictionary of natural language constructs |
09:52 |
mircea_popescu |
they let it run overnight, among the conclusions it had arrived to by morning was "napoleon had an infinite number of arms" |
| |
↖ |
09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
the thought process being, napoleon was a great general, great generals are forewarned, being forewarned is like having an extra pair of arms, |
09:53 |
nubbins` |
well, he did! |
09:53 |
nubbins` |
why do you think he was so short! |
09:53 |
mircea_popescu |
four is an odd number of arms for a man to have, the only both odd and even number is infinity |
09:53 |
nubbins` |
HAH |
09:53 |
nubbins` |
that's actually rich |
09:54 |
nubbins` |
"being forewarned is being forearmed" |
09:54 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda why it stuck. |
09:55 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, machine-proofed khali. |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
"In the chat, Karpeles says the leaked document was not produced by Mt. Gox, but he admits that there is some truth to it." |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
well no shit |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
derp. |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
mildly surprised anyone believed that was a legit doc |
09:58 |
mircea_popescu |
soooo... who was it produced by ? |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
that two-bit idiot guy |
09:58 |
nubbins` |
selkis? |
09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder https://twitter.com/DougKass/status/438673419845271552 :p |
09:59 |
nubbins` |
wanted to make a name for himself, and it worked. associated press splashed his name across the globe |
09:59 |
mircea_popescu |
guy got burned prett well. |
10:00 |
nubbins` |
just so happens that he faked the doc at a time when everybody was ready to accept a poor fake as legit |
10:01 |
mircea_popescu |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhZi4sUCUAA0q4B.jpg:large << check out this us foreign policy success. |
10:02 |
cazalla |
nubbins` are you sure it's fake, shrem suggested it might have been karpeles partner who drafted it due to poor english |
10:04 |
nubbins` |
i'm not sure, but i mean, did you read it? |
10:04 |
nubbins` |
who's going to draft an internal memo that flatly states "we don't deserve to run a business"? |
10:04 |
cazalla |
yes but shrem and levine from LTB confirmed they knew some of what is in the pdf is factual prior to it being leaked |
10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` anyone sane working at mtgox |
10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
or a bunch of other bitcoin "businesses" ? |
10:05 |
nubbins` |
sure, so why did this selkis guy decide to redact page 8? |
10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` possibly because it had passwords on it ? |
10:05 |
nubbins` |
why would you redact a bunch of numbers on a document about a failing exchange -- a document that you're releasing |
10:05 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: the redactions were black highlights. you could copypasta them. |
10:05 |
mircea_popescu |
not proposing any of the foregoing as factual or anything, merely exploring teh theory of it. |
10:06 |
nubbins` |
black highlights added to the pdf by selkis himself |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` point in case as to the "we don't deserve to run a business" thing |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
"we can't even use office equipment properly" |
10:06 |
nubbins` |
nonono |
10:06 |
cazalla |
maybe he was asked to redact it by whoever gave it to him to leak because if it was given to potential investors, they might not want the financials out there |
10:06 |
nubbins` |
selkis is the "blogger" who "leaked" the document. |
10:06 |
nubbins` |
he doesn't work for gox |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` i am aware. |
10:06 |
nubbins` |
oh, wait, i see what you're saying |
10:06 |
mircea_popescu |
how do you know he added them ? |
10:07 |
nubbins` |
because it says so in the file |
10:07 |
nubbins` |
one sec |
10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
o lol |
10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
bwahaha |
10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
so this guy is going to be forever remembered as the pdf highlights tard ? |
10:07 |
mircea_popescu |
good way to become famous lmao |
10:08 |
nubbins` |
http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5 |
10:08 |
ozbot |
Ryan Selkis is full of shit - Imgur |
10:08 |
nubbins` |
see first image |
10:08 |
nubbins` |
the pdf software he did the fake redactions in put his fucking name on them |
10:08 |
nubbins` |
lel x 9000 |
10:09 |
nubbins` |
of course none of the news articles mentioning selkis talk about this |
10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking hell i can read the original THROUGH the blackl |
10:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00088076 = 9.0718 BTC [-] |
10:09 |
cazalla |
if it was fake, who gave him the legit information to mix with his bs? |
10:09 |
nubbins` |
what do you mean, gave? the numbers don't even add up |
10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
"mt gox business is healthy and profitable |
10:09 |
cazalla |
the re-branding etc, shrem confirmed he knew of this weeks ago |
10:09 |
mircea_popescu |
is this intentional ? |
10:10 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu that's why the whole thing is so curious |
10:10 |
nubbins` |
none of it makes sense |
10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
pity something awful got all butthurt and humiliated and discontinued buttcoin |
10:10 |
nubbins` |
some anon blogger "is sent" a doc, black-highlights a bunch of gibberish math, makes a reddit post |
10:10 |
mircea_popescu |
it was a pretty decent service coupla years ago. |
10:11 |
nubbins` |
next thing ya know gox decides "well, now's as good a time as any" |
10:11 |
mircea_popescu |
he even twitted with me, sec lemme find it |
10:11 |
cazalla |
but parts of the document are factual nubbins` |
10:11 |
nubbins` |
parts of the bible are factual. |
10:11 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438181014784204800 a no, he's the "o noes shrem guy" |
10:11 |
ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: "And thought he knew better." ... |
10:11 |
mircea_popescu |
i hope shrem hit him over the head because had he stfu i'd have not said anything either. |
10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder generally how many people realise that stupendously stupid "pr" actually has a marked negative cost |
10:12 |
nubbins` |
curious to see what 2-bit idiot has to say about his redactions |
10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
like say the misadventures of those pretend-gambling guys mpoe-pr laid into a week ago |
10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck were they called again, |
10:12 |
cazalla |
casino bitcoin |
10:12 |
mircea_popescu |
a yes that. |
10:13 |
nubbins` |
CBTC! |
10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465334.0 there we go yeah |
10:14 |
mircea_popescu |
it was casino bitcoin |
10:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12682 @ 0.00088322 = 11.201 BTC [+] |
10:17 |
ozbot |
Calling out CasinoBitco.in |
10:17 |
cazalla |
they added all their privately held shares to havelock the other week |
10:18 |
cazalla |
didn't mention it though until people pointed it out asking wtf |
10:18 |
mircea_popescu |
well obviously all the nonsense barrage was destined to help them fuck some more noobs over. |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
haha pretty epic ownage this. allow me to spam irc : |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
@SpiegelPeter · 2h "Kremlin's jealous & intolerant eye can distinguish only vassals & enemies; neighbors, if they dont wish 2 be one, must be the other-Kennan |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu This is pretty well equally true of the US. The EU is one of the few sane players and the US press is slamming them for it |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
@SpiegelPeter I don't recall US ever sending tanks into Canada. Does chasing Pancho Villa = Hungary 1956, Prague 1968, Afghanistan 1979? |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhZi4sUCUAA0q4B.jpg:large
how's that look to you ? |
10:21 |
nubbins` |
he doesn't recall the usa and canada being at war? |
10:21 |
nubbins` |
i uh |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
@SpiegelPeter Is Syria a neighbour of the US? You may want to re-read original Kennan quote. |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu Yes, it borders on the US province of Iraq. You may wish to drop the weasel act, we're adults, we can see through bs. |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
and now he's going to be upset because i called him a weasel |
10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
CLEARLY he doesn't have to respond to such evil. |
10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
like you know, having your idiocy made a point of public mockery in the forum is immediate license to disengage and pretent like you were slighted |
10:22 |
mircea_popescu |
it's almost as if they're all women or something. |
10:26 |
Duffer1 |
"Kremlin's jealous & intolerant eye can distinguish only vassals & enemies; neighbors, if they dont wish 2 be one, must be the other-Kennan |
10:26 |
Duffer1 |
mircea_popescu@Mircea_Popescu This is pretty well equally true of the US. >>> Cuba is a great example to offer |
10:26 |
Duffer1 |
at least, closer to physical home than iraq |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
no because the standard magically is "the us never sent tanks there" |
10:26 |
Duffer1 |
lol |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
notwithstanding that russia didn't send any tanks in the ukraine, either |
10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
but you know, opinions. |
10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
why not have a strongly held one ? |
10:28 |
Duffer1 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion |
10:28 |
ozbot |
Bay of Pigs Invasion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
10:28 |
Duffer1 |
dunno if they had tanks.. |
10:28 |
cazalla |
CIA eh |
10:29 |
cazalla |
I'm reading this ATM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Politics-Heroin-Complicity-Afghanistan/dp/1556524838 |
10:29 |
cazalla |
lead to that after reading the CIA rumoured to have run a bank here in Australia |
10:29 |
cazalla |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nugan_Hand_Bank |
10:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 538 @ 0.00582443 = 3.1335 BTC [+] {13} |
10:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 623 @ 0.00083901 = 0.5227 BTC [-] {7} |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
o, you mean to compete with HSBC ? |
10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
in the very lucrative heroin trade ? |
10:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2210 @ 0.00587473 = 12.9832 BTC [+] {15} |
10:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06066044 = 0.364 BTC [-] {3} |
10:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02199999 = 0.264 BTC [-] {2} |
10:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 16 @ 0.16230094 = 2.5968 BTC [-] {2} |
10:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.08388996 = 0.6711 BTC [+] {3} |
10:30 |
cazalla |
it's pretty speculative |
10:30 |
cazalla |
at least in the aus bank case |
10:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00587699 = 0.1881 BTC [+] {5} |
10:32 |
Duffer1 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion#Invasion_day_.2817_April.29 now with tanks |
10:32 |
ozbot |
Bay of Pigs Invasion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
that doesn't count. |
10:32 |
Duffer1 |
k :( |
10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
because random US agent of influence in Brussels slash fuckwit says so. |
10:32 |
cazalla |
heh Invasion day, that's what they call Australia Day although I prefer to call it Conquerors Day |
10:32 |
mircea_popescu |
because this is how the internet works now. |
10:32 |
Duffer1 |
ha |
10:33 |
Duffer1 |
i wish you were wrong |
10:33 |
nubbins` |
i'll be close to brussels this summer |
10:33 |
cazalla |
going to bed, give me something good to read with morning coffee :) |
10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2014#528354 << may be worth a mention that russian troop movements was discussed here way before it became public :D |
10:34 |
ozbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
10:36 |
Duffer1 |
i don't see why they would do that unless they're planning an invasion or reinstallation of Yanuk |
10:39 |
* |
Duffer1 will try to remember to read linked article first next time |
10:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43100 @ 0.00087924 = 37.8952 BTC [-] {4} |
10:50 |
mircea_popescu |
why, cause without crimeea they're fucked up the ass |
10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
russia is very badly landlocked, they can't survive without ports. |
10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
even crimeea is barely a fucking toehold. |
10:52 |
nubbins` |
and vladivostok is a LONG train ride from moscow & st petersburg |
10:52 |
mircea_popescu |
very. |
10:54 |
nubbins` |
almost the longest |
10:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00589333 = 0.4479 BTC [+] {3} |
10:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2081 @ 0.00589999 = 12.2779 BTC [+] {10} |
10:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11496639 = 0.2299 BTC [+] |
10:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13587995 BTC [+] |
10:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24139 @ 0.00088304 = 21.3157 BTC [+] {3} |
11:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/2014/02/schneier-yesterday.htm |
11:01 |
pankkake |
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ |
11:01 |
ozbot |
How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations - The Inte |
11:02 |
nubbins` |
heh |
11:02 |
pankkake |
the schneier proposal was so… tame. almost sounded like politicians creating commissions to solve problems |
11:02 |
pankkake |
"This is a radical solution" lol |
11:02 |
nubbins` |
is that an article about people leaving "-10 scammer faggot" ratings on -otc? ;D |
11:03 |
pankkake |
I hope government agents have more talent |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake nah, it's about derpage like quoted above. |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
on twitter. |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
that guy's job is basically "derp at russia". |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
which w/e, it's a living. |
11:03 |
nubbins` |
twist: GCHQ stole pdf from gox and leaked it via their agent selkis |
11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
it's kind-of becoming a fun sport these days tho, find agents twist their arms. |
11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda sitting ducks because they're slaves to their talking points |
11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
and really as entry level bureaucrats... how smart can they be ? |
11:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
hey mp: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yzp5k/im_a_journalist_i_want_to_be_able_to_write_about/ |
11:05 |
nubbins` |
http://i.imgur.com/C5ZyuVj.jpg |
11:05 |
nubbins` |
LEL |
11:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13587998 BTC [+] |
11:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 299 @ 0.0059 = 1.7641 BTC [+] |
11:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 219 @ 0.0059 = 1.2921 BTC [+] |
11:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3689 @ 0.00590063 = 21.7674 BTC [+] {7} |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves link him to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2014#526451 |
11:13 |
pankkake |
https://counterparty.co/faqs/why-must-dividends-bets-and-betting-fees-be-paid-in-xcp/ lol |
11:13 |
ozbot |
Frequently Asked Questions | Counterparty | Crypto-Financial Market |
11:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00597798 = 0.5201 BTC [+] {2} |
11:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 224 @ 0.005978 = 1.3391 BTC [+] {4} |
11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
what is xcp |
11:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 828 @ 0.00597969 = 4.9512 BTC [+] {4} |
11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
11:15 |
Duffer1 |
never heard about it until i was catching up on my daily actm drama this morning |
11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
counterparty is one of those things like mastercoin right |
11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
burn your coins into meta system |
11:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
cry later |
11:16 |
pankkake |
yes |
11:16 |
Duffer1 |
pretty ui though >.< |
11:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Having only one currency that can be used for betting makes bet-matching simpler and easier (and more likely). The currency for making bets cannot be BTC, because the Counterparty protocol cannot debit BTC from a user’s address." |
11:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
sounds like something i'd write for Altcoin |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
Duffer1 i for some reason read actm as "rectum" |
11:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.102 = 0.204 BTC [-] |
11:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00597999 = 0.1794 BTC [+] |
11:16 |
mircea_popescu |
my brain is telling me things. |
11:16 |
pankkake |
I wonder if the UI is just a photoshop thing for now |
11:17 |
Duffer1 |
synesthesia read actm, smell poop |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/26/scientists-discover-a-new-state-of-matter-in-the-last-place-youd-ever-think-to-look/ |
11:17 |
ozbot |
Scientists Discover a New State of Matter in the Last Place You’d Ever Think to Look | TheBlaze.co |
11:17 |
mircea_popescu |
speaking of all that. |
11:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 231 @ 0.00597999 = 1.3814 BTC [+] {2} |
11:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 660 @ 0.00598 = 3.9468 BTC [+] {2} |
11:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00597999 = 0.4485 BTC [-] {3} |
11:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
so will chickens eventually have crystallized eyes? |
11:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
breed more chikuns! |
11:21 |
BingoBoingo |
Oh, look what happened when I was passed out http://slashdot.org/story/14/02/26/1539250/mt-gox-shuts-down-collapse-should-come-as-no-surprise |
11:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz after crystal eyes, comes laser chikuns, right? |
11:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18371 @ 0.00088484 = 16.2554 BTC [+] {3} |
11:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
gj bingo |
11:22 |
Bugpowder |
mircea_popescu: DOUBLE DOWN! |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder lolwut? o tsla you mean ? |
11:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00598 = 0.8252 BTC [+] {2} |
11:22 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo cool beanz. |
11:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, I guess years of reading them taught me their copywriting style |
11:23 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438708150469132288 <<< lettuce bother them. |
11:23 |
ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @SpiegelPeter I get it, you ... |
11:24 |
Bugpowder |
yah |
11:24 |
Bugpowder |
Nice to see you getting back into twitter. |
11:24 |
Bugpowder |
And getting some responses! |
11:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00598 = 0.299 BTC [+] |
11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
they fixed the site. |
11:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i abandoned it cca 2012 cause they made it js-unusable. |
11:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah, at least spiegal engaged |
11:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
spygull |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you missed the huge argument with anil dash coupla days ago ? |
11:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
possibly |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
guy ended up asking me about what music i like and so forth. |
11:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.102 = 0.714 BTC [-] |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
cause you know, that's how you make friends. |
11:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
11:30 |
nubbins` |
i'm only here because you guys all like Talking Heads |
11:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
get Keiser to engage, that's a real challenge |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
if only mr Y asked the demonstrator ppl what music they liked.... |
11:30 |
Bugpowder |
Why would one want to engage with Keiser? |
11:30 |
Bugpowder |
Wouldn't want to bring down my influence. |
11:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves he used to back before i ended up wearing his asshole as a windshield decoration |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
(this was back in the ra ra ra days of to the moon when btc first broke 100) |
11:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] |
11:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11475878 = 0.459 BTC [-] |
11:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00597989 = 0.598 BTC [-] {2} |
11:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11475878 BTC [-] |
11:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00597999 = 3.588 BTC [+] {2} |
11:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 284 @ 0.00598 = 1.6983 BTC [+] {3} |
11:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06098069 = 0.122 BTC [-] |
11:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.005987 = 0.1497 BTC [+] |
11:37 |
BingoBoingo |
So, less than 10% of slashdot users are using the new layout |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't even remember a case where some popular site "improved" |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
or "new layouted" |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
and the userbase liked it. |
11:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.005987 = 0.6167 BTC [+] {2} |
11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea why people continue doing it. must be a mental disorder on the management side. |
11:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 184 @ 0.005987 = 1.1016 BTC [+] {2} |
11:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06145 = 0.6145 BTC [+] |
11:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.005987 = 0.8981 BTC [+] |
11:40 |
BingoBoingo |
Prolly |
11:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] |
11:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.005987 = 0.1976 BTC [+] |
11:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00598962 = 0.2456 BTC [+] {3} |
11:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00474999 = 0.6175 BTC [+] |
11:51 |
BingoBoingo |
n00bs gonna n00b http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4836423&cid=46346507 |
11:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00595201 = 0.1488 BTC [-] |
11:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
<mircea_popescu> i have no idea why people continue doing it. must be a mental disorder on the management side. /// marketeers are persuasive, it's their job |
11:52 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: "You know you've done things right, when people aren't sure you've done anything at all." |
11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438718213665611776 |
11:53 |
mircea_popescu |
the derpage coming out of that thing is almost like bitcoin magazine runs it. |
11:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
what did they rip? |
11:54 |
ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: If you're going to rip -assets ... |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
link is there, "o derp, bitcoin is the greatest asset class in the histopry of business" |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
except, not because it went up 50ish x in 2013. |
11:55 |
BingoBoingo |
ThickAsThieves: Everything, it is the coindesk way |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
the argument is strong and well made, but not by them and not by their fucktarded infographic or w/e that thing is |
11:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
slide 12 seems familiar |
11:56 |
BingoBoingo |
At this rate COindesk is headed into a Max Kaiser like niche becoming a noob ghetto |
11:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.0008855 = 3.1435 BTC [+] |
11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
see the jan 31st discussion with herbi, it's linked in the tweet. |
11:56 |
Duffer1 |
max seems to have become the thing he hates |
11:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00598998 = 0.1857 BTC [+] {2} |
11:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00480065 = 0.168 BTC [+] {3} |
11:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Duffer1: Max doesn't have the dignity for that |
11:58 |
Duffer1 |
Max Keiser @maxkeiser 2h |
11:58 |
Duffer1 |
I plan to give @RealAlexJones some free #maxcoin next week. No need to bother with Bitcoin, #maxcoin is better. Currency of the Resistance. |
11:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00598999 = 0.4433 BTC [+] {3} |
11:58 |
TomServo |
pathetic. |
11:58 |
Duffer1 |
ya that kinda stuff gets under my skin pretty quick |
11:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
ya |
11:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Also 737 people reffered by Slashdot in the first hour as the last of four links in the story. |
11:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
maxoin is better bro! |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018499 = 0.185 BTC [+] |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00598999 = 0.6409 BTC [+] {2} |
11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.39675101 BTC to 2`983 shares, 80347 satoshi per share |
12:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
did Max lose all his BTC on gox or something? |
12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00598999 = 0.2516 BTC [+] {2} |
12:00 |
BingoBoingo |
If only the latest trilema piece had come out an hour earlier |
12:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's odd to me that the bitcoin world ignored bitcoin stocks and stock exchanges so much |
12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
like zero mention in the coindesk report |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
TomServo kinda lulzy cause it went pretty much like an old guy's erection, that forced coin. |
12:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.06145 = 0.676 BTC [+] |
12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
never mentioned in bitcoin hearings or such |
12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
never mentioned by core devs |
12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
etc |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
why would they ? |
12:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
to be comprehensive? |
12:02 |
Duffer1 |
seems like a situation where they'd just rather forget |
12:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Stocks and exchanges aren't for the herd |
12:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.061 = 0.427 BTC [-] |
12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i really don't want this viewpoint promoted whereby bitcoin finance is this point of interest for the general public. |
12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
it isn't. |
12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean they can end up believing it is, like they end up believing any other nonsense they believe |
12:04 |
mircea_popescu |
but it's really just setting up everyone to get hurt. |
12:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
they even have a whole VC section |
12:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00539875 = 0.1134 BTC [+] {3} |
12:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
well i dont mean to imply i wish it promoted |
12:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
so much that it being absent is odd |
12:04 |
mircea_popescu |
last thing you need you know, is thebitcoinwife being knowledgeable about stocks. |
12:04 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess it is a little odd. |
12:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
it also makes their numbers wrong |
12:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00598606 = 0.1736 BTC [-] {3} |
12:05 |
BingoBoingo |
Could their numbers have ever been right? |
12:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
"38% of all VC investment is in payment processors" |
12:05 |
mircea_popescu |
that is unfortunate, yea. |
12:05 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves well... it is. of the 1-2% of bitcoin marketshare that us vcs get |
12:05 |
mircea_popescu |
38% is in dead in the water pps |
12:06 |
mircea_popescu |
rest of 62% is in other dead in the water nonventures. |
12:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1129999 BTC [-] |
12:07 |
mircea_popescu |
the controlling point here, i guess, would be the observation of Kennedy sr that fuck it, when shoeshine boys discuss stocks it's time to get out. |
12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
the day you're in the same boat with the sorts of people "investing" in groupon it's prolly time to move on. |
12:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00598998 = 0.8685 BTC [+] {2} |
12:09 |
mike_c |
shoeshine boys won't have mpex accounts anytime soon. |
12:09 |
mike_c |
although i guess they could have coinbr accounts |
12:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 393 @ 0.00598642 = 2.3527 BTC [-] {3} |
12:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
curse jurov! |
12:10 |
jurov |
i;m still waiting for someone who'll license coinbr code (for worthy price, ofc) |
12:10 |
jurov |
and start offering free mpex trading for masses |
12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c anyway, stuff like publishing the correct numbers is useful and welcome. |
12:11 |
jurov |
somehow no one is up to it |
12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
the idea isn't to keep anything a secret, god forbid, but basically i think we should be informed by the correct interraction with children in a family. |
12:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11299998 BTC [+] |
12:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0615 = 0.123 BTC [+] |
12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
you don't make a big secret out of the power sockets, or the power tools in the garage |
12:11 |
mircea_popescu |
you just go about your business without making a big deal of them and let the kids grow up with all their limbs |
12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
i think that's overall the best policy. |
12:12 |
mike_c |
and maybe even buy those little plastice outlet covers to make sure they survive :) |
12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe. tho... |
12:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11299998 = 0.339 BTC [+] |
12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
that's the debatable point, but anyway. some slack for everyone to cut closer or further by his taste. |
12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
but as a general principle actual finance does not belong in the mouth of pundits any more than science belongs in the mouths of politicos. |
12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo see, hour late or not, it made the paper http://paper.li/ionescupopescu |
12:13 |
mike_c |
looking at slides like coindesk's makes me mad for some reason. those stupid charts with "here's why btc went up" and "here's why it went down". they should post that on bitcointalk and be done with it. |
12:14 |
mircea_popescu |
it really is just glorified bitcointalk stuff. |
12:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Cool |
12:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.00599 = 0.4373 BTC [+] {2} |
12:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00595201 = 0.2381 BTC [-] |
12:21 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z010y/open_letter_to_michael_casey_wsj_reporter_who/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter |
12:22 |
ozbot |
Open Letter to Michael Casey - WSJ reporter who butchered my comments in today's Bitcoin cover story |
12:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the disadvantages of being erik |
12:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
nice |
12:24 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, when you want to be everyone's friend you forget if you actually have friends or not. |
12:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00594726 = 0.2617 BTC [-] {2} |
12:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 17 @ 0.00599 = 0.1018 BTC [+] |
12:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 616 @ 0.00582265 = 3.5868 BTC [-] {10} |
12:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 189 @ 0.0058 = 1.0962 BTC [-] {2} |
12:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] |
12:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
"with friends like this, whi the fuck needs cointelpro" |
12:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
who* |
12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
lol srsly. |
12:31 |
thestringpuller |
payment processors have too much overhead due to regulation...you pay so many fees just cutting through red tape |
12:32 |
thestringpuller |
PCI compliance is a joke, yet it accounts for good chunk of the expense budget...that gets passed onto the customer. thus we have bitcoin. So what happens in 20 years big government regulates BTC and you need 10 licenses just to touch it in Country XYZ? |
12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
eh let teh vcs have fun |
12:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
pci compliance is most definitely a joke |
12:35 |
TomServo |
No doubt. It worked wonders for Target, didn't it! |
12:36 |
thestringpuller |
lol operate a bitcoin exchange from a space station. no government there... |
12:36 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: elevator for bags of fiat? |
12:36 |
Duffer1 |
mining farm in space, free cooling |
12:37 |
asciilifeform |
Duffer1: cooling in space is a bitch |
12:37 |
asciilifeform |
(radiative only, if this is somehow non-obvious) |
12:37 |
Duffer1 |
no i know :P |
12:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35611 @ 0.00088327 = 31.4541 BTC [-] {2} |
12:39 |
Duffer1 |
can a level of bureaucracy exist sufficient to regulate Bitcoin? |
12:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1989 @ 0.00088021 = 1.7507 BTC [-] |
12:39 |
diametric |
I think the problem is people use the word regulate like its some specific thing. |
12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> Duffer1: cooling in space is a bitch << this somehow never is directly obvious |
12:40 |
asciilifeform |
phun phact - in soviet prison camps, notes ('scribbles', roughly translated from the argot) went around freely from one end of the archipelago to another. (how? bribe a guard) |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
but one of the biggest problems for any energetically intensive application outside of earth is like... how the fuck you cool it. |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
you'll end up with larger heat exchangers than solar panels |
12:41 |
asciilifeform |
so something resembling bitcoin (well, more like Hawala) could have worked even there. |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform "there is no prison that may hold the literate" |
12:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00597499 = 0.1314 BTC [+] |
12:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.08388998 = 0.1678 BTC [-] |
12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
diametric but it is a specific thing. it means "fucking" :D |
12:42 |
asciilifeform |
and i'm sure virtually everyone is familiar with the use of morse code by prisoners, historically. |
12:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
in case anyone is bored and wants to troll Wired: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yzz24/im_a_reporter_with_wired_if_you_worked_at_gox_and/ |
12:42 |
asciilifeform |
re: heat sinks: this is how the americans spotted the radiothermally-powered (Pu core) soviet satellites - enormous fins. |
12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"Tough Women followed you" |
12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking story of my life. |
12:43 |
asciilifeform |
that and, well, absence of solar panels. |
12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform indeed |
12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
"hey those don't really look like solar panels ?!" |
12:43 |
asciilifeform |
rtg can be built to happily run for centuries. |
12:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33499 @ 0.00087986 = 29.4744 BTC [-] {2} |
12:45 |
nubbins` |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/man-shoots-himself_n_4853983.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular |
12:45 |
ozbot |
Man Accidentally Kills Self With Gun During Demonstration On Gun Safety |
12:45 |
nubbins` |
"The 36-year-old man ... was attempting to demonstrate the safety of the handguns by holding them to his head and pulling the trigger." |
12:45 |
nubbins` |
because that's how you demonstrate that |
12:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00597499 = 0.1972 BTC [+] |
12:46 |
nubbins` |
for my next trick, i will demonstrate the safety of this prop knife by falling on it from my balcony. |
12:46 |
asciilifeform |
tldr, insurance fraud. |
12:46 |
Duffer1 |
have you seen the one with the black cop shoots himself in a classroom during a safety demo? |
12:46 |
Duffer1 |
i'll try to find it |
12:46 |
nubbins` |
what does black have to do with it? |
12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
i was thinking that |
12:46 |
Duffer1 |
an adjective to help describe the specific video i'm thinking of |
12:46 |
TomServo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0 |
12:46 |
ozbot |
Cop Shoots himself in the leg - YouTube |
12:47 |
Duffer1 |
tom wins |
12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
wait there's A LOT of vids of cops shooting themselves in schools ? |
12:47 |
nubbins` |
^ |
12:47 |
diametric |
thats a classic |
12:48 |
diametric |
Have to hand it to him, he just rolls with it |
12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Paco de Lucia has died |
12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
diametric perhaps not his first time ? |
12:49 |
* |
asciilifeform had a dream last night that he found the coveted n-sat shortcutter for sha-256. the number '14' was a magic constant, somehow. |
12:50 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/infested-bedbug-rentals-unacceptable-tom-osborne-says-1.2551860 |
12:50 |
ozbot |
Infested bedbug rentals unacceptable, Tom Osborne says - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News |
12:50 |
nubbins` |
ugh |
12:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.005975 = 0.3645 BTC [+] {2} |
12:50 |
nubbins` |
this is my nightmare |
12:50 |
nubbins` |
well. one of them |
12:50 |
nubbins` |
curious to see what changes they'll try to make to the residential tenancies act |
12:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.005975 = 0.2151 BTC [+] |
12:51 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: this is my nightmare << bedbugs? |
12:51 |
nubbins` |
nod |
12:51 |
nubbins` |
my house is attached on both sides |
12:51 |
asciilifeform |
or sha shortcut |
12:51 |
nubbins` |
hard skids living on both sides too |
12:51 |
nubbins` |
sha shortcut isn't into nightmare territory yet |
12:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00597499 = 0.6811 BTC [-] |
12:52 |
asciilifeform |
what's a hardskid? |
12:52 |
benkay |
;;ud skid |
12:52 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skid | The term "skid" is in part derived from "skid row", which is both a band enjoyed by those the term refers to, as well as their address. See also white trash and ... |
12:52 |
ozbot |
Urban Dictionary: skid |
12:53 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
12:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00595 = 0.1488 BTC [-] |
12:53 |
nubbins` |
technically we call them "skeets" here |
12:53 |
nubbins` |
but i think skids is a more widely known term |
12:53 |
pankkake |
a hard skid is used to store data, but does not work well, and sometimes reverses bits |
12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` tbh large parts of the us are having a SERIOUS infestation problem these days. |
12:54 |
nubbins` |
ah, haha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeet_(Newfoundland) |
12:54 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu they found bedbugs in provincial court here last year |
12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
i can't grok wtf is causing it, because i never heard of a civilised country with begbugs before san francisco came along |
12:54 |
thestringpuller |
poor white people are worse than niggas these days |
12:55 |
benkay |
no no thestringpuller those are "niggers" in this channel |
12:55 |
benkay |
nigga a different thing |
12:55 |
nubbins` |
lel, the article starts with "In Newfoundland English..." |
12:55 |
asciilifeform |
little parasites were constant companions of people, historically. |
12:55 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps our little break is simply over. |
12:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yeah up until 1950 or so |
12:55 |
thestringpuller |
also poor hippies are the emperors of infestation |
12:55 |
thestringpuller |
worse than serfs |
12:55 |
thestringpuller |
and they complain.... |
12:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol, asshole https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5389341#msg5389341 |
12:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00595 = 0.238 BTC [-] |
12:56 |
nubbins` |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_English#Newfoundland_English_expressions |
12:56 |
nubbins` |
lel |
12:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2925 @ 0.00087859 = 2.5699 BTC [-] |
12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
"Where ya at?" |
12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly, this is what yo upeople invented ? |
12:57 |
nubbins` |
no, we invented the gas mask |
12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
brb going to name some dogs after you |
12:57 |
nubbins` |
i think there's a wikipedia article about that somewhere too |
12:57 |
nubbins` |
"where are ye to?" is much more common |
12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
Get on the go, Let's go (also, a common euphemism for partying, on the go by itself can also refer to a relationship - similar to a dating stage, but more hazy.) |
12:57 |
nubbins` |
ye being, of course, the plural of you |
12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
whoever the fuck wrote that wiki entry was pretty well gone. |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
nod |
12:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00595 = 0.2975 BTC [-] |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
most of it is shit |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
hits the mark a few times |
12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
He[she/dey] just took off |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
i.e. "right" as a synonym for "Very" |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
"she's right crooked" == "she is in a very bad mood" |
12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` like "the right honorable dorky mcdorkenstock" ? |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
nah |
12:58 |
nubbins` |
well, wait |
12:58 |
mircea_popescu |
so you thing lolz |
12:58 |
ozbot |
Newfoundland English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
12:59 |
nubbins` |
i guess so |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
12:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.00485999 = 0.1069 BTC [-] |
12:59 |
KRS1 |
skeet is white trach or wigger here |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
Ducky, female friend, used affectionately. Also My love, used in an entirely platonic sense |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
great contribs to culture coming from canada. |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
SARCASM |
12:59 |
thestringpuller |
i thought skeet meant the process of ejaculating |
12:59 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: i've seen delivery drivers call women "my lover" |
12:59 |
nubbins` |
dere ya goes, me lover |
13:00 |
KRS1 |
thestringpuller: that too, depending on who you ask.. as in ... skeet skeet |
13:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC {2} |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
i'm guilty of using some of these |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
"now the once" = "soon" |
13:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
lotsa former pirates out there? |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
c'mon now, we goes drinkin' now the once |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so what does gay mean in newfoundlandandlabradorese ? |
13:00 |
KRS1 |
nubbins`: I think here they call the person 'boo'. |
13:00 |
TomServo |
Yet there is a difference between a hill and a big hill. |
13:00 |
TomServo |
haha |
13:00 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: depends on the age of the speaker ;D |
13:00 |
KRS1 |
boo=my lover |
13:01 |
nubbins` |
"queer" is still regularly used to mean "odd" by older folk |
13:01 |
mircea_popescu |
that's right faggoty my love. |
13:01 |
KRS1 |
LOL |
13:01 |
KRS1 |
i need bait now |
13:01 |
KRS1 |
.bait |
13:01 |
nubbins` |
"dass a queer smell" |
13:01 |
ozbot |
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2edvwVIAY1r0gv87o1_1280.jpg |
13:01 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-02-26/bitcoin-exchange-mt-dot-gox-shutdown-said-to-be-probed-by-u-dot-s |
13:01 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Exchange Mt. Gox Shutdown Said to be Probed by U.S. - Businessweek |
13:01 |
nubbins` |
more like "qware" than "queer" tho |
13:01 |
KRS1 |
Mmmm elegant. |
13:01 |
asciilifeform |
who the hell is Preet Bharara? i feel like i've heard the name before |
13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform preet bharara wants a cracker ? |
13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00599 = 0.5391 BTC [+] |
13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC |
13:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
he's the guy holding the silkroad coins |
13:02 |
mircea_popescu |
best parakeet name ever. |
13:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
if i recall correctly |
13:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00599 = 0.599 BTC [+] {3} |
13:04 |
TomServo |
His brother, Vinit Bharara, is the entrepreneur who co-founded Diapers.com |
13:05 |
jcpham |
http://goxshirts.com/ |
13:05 |
ozbot |
dem shirts, yo |
13:06 |
thestringpuller |
;;google explain like I'm five bitcoin |
13:06 |
gribble |
Explain Bitcoin Like I'm Five — Future of Currency — Medium: <https://medium.com/future-of-currency/73b4257ac833>; Explain like I'm five: Bitcoin | Darren Hobbs: <http://darrenhobbs.com/2013/04/09/explain-like-im-five-bitcoin/>; Explain Bitcoin Like I'm Five (In case you want to understand the ...: <http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/2014/01/explain-bitcoin-like-im- (1 more message) |
13:06 |
benkay |
bronycapitalism! |
13:07 |
asciilifeform |
;;google explain like I'm five noncommutative algebras |
13:07 |
gribble |
fa.functional analysis - Realisation of noncommutative torus ...: <http://mathoverflow.net/questions/157357/realisation-of-noncommutative-torus>; Basic facts about finitely-generated noncommutative algebras - Math ...: <http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/645775/basic-facts-about-finitely-generated-noncommutative-algebras>; An Intuitive Guide to Linear Algebra | (1 more message) |
13:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
Ships in two weeks™ or your money back! |
13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google explain like i'm twelve and what is this ? |
13:08 |
gribble |
Explain Like I'm Five | Don't Panic! - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/>; Explain Like I'm Calvin - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/r/ExplainLikeImCalvin>; Philadelphia (1993) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107818/quotes> |
13:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00599 = 0.1857 BTC [+] |
13:08 |
nubbins` |
jcpham, lel |
13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
o i c |
13:08 |
benkay |
ping davout |
13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
;;explain like i'm five anal sex |
13:08 |
gribble |
Error: "explain" is not a valid command. |
13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
heh |
13:09 |
jcpham |
;;eli5 would be great gribble command |
13:09 |
gribble |
Error: "eli5" is not a valid command. |
13:09 |
asciilifeform |
why hardcoded 5? 'eliN' |
13:09 |
nubbins` |
"wear your failings like the badge of honor that they are" |
13:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;google explain like i'm usagi |
13:09 |
gribble |
so i'm looking up to see if a lot of things that...: <http://adventuresofcomicbookgirl.tumblr.com/post/64092309282/so-im-looking-up-to-see-if-a-lot-of-things-that>; What's the Big Deal About Sailor Moon? « The Hooded Utilitarian: <http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/11/bigdealaboutsailormoon/>; Stan Sakai drew a comic in 1991 explaining how to make ... - Robot 6: (1 more message) |
13:09 |
Duffer1 |
LOL |
13:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
13:09 |
asciilifeform |
;;explain like i'm five seppuku |
13:10 |
jcpham |
i think that site is 100% |
13:10 |
jcpham |
bitpay integrated and such |
13:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
from reddit: "What is the potential value of NeoBee? Right now it is trading at around 005" |
13:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Noone can be sure until first dividends." |
13:10 |
jcpham |
so if you buy then i have to make it |
13:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
... |
13:10 |
thestringpuller |
;;seen usagi |
13:10 |
gribble |
usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 weeks, 0 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <usagi> No, but it will go over |
13:10 |
thestringpuller |
LOL |
13:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00596854 = 0.2447 BTC [+] {2} |
13:12 |
nubbins` |
hope you're getting a good price on your shirts :D |
13:12 |
jcpham |
so they need to be $50 |
13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
so what happens if 1st dividends are 0.007 per share ? |
13:12 |
jcpham |
i see your point |
13:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
the moon isn't high enough for such a div |
13:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC |
13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
infinite power right ? |
13:14 |
nubbins` |
where are you getting em printed, anyway? |
13:14 |
jcpham |
http://goxshirts.com/products/got-gox-shirt |
13:14 |
ozbot |
Got Gox? shirt – goxshirts.com |
13:14 |
nubbins` |
cafepress or some such? |
13:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
ew |
13:15 |
nubbins` |
;D was hoping that'd garner a reaction |
13:15 |
jcpham |
everyone thank nubbins`the price went up |
13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
13:15 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 585.38, Best ask: 587.37, Bid-ask spread: 1.99000, Last trade: 587.37, 24 hour volume: 50964.25595437, 24 hour low: 502.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 561.245443288 |
13:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 165 @ 0.00599339 = 0.9889 BTC [+] {3} |
13:15 |
* |
nubbins` discreetly undercuts prices |
13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
o no! look at that, nobody cared! |
13:16 |
jcpham |
umm customink |
13:16 |
jcpham |
doesn't really matter to me. still working out logistics |
13:16 |
davout |
benkay: hey |
13:16 |
jcpham |
i had a need for a shopify thingy |
13:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.0059977 = 0.1679 BTC [+] {2} |
13:17 |
* |
nubbins` raises eyebrow |
13:17 |
nubbins` |
they do one-off shirts for $20.75, shipping included |
13:17 |
nubbins` |
my guess is chinese shirts with heat xfer graphics |
13:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+] |
13:18 |
nubbins` |
i wouldn't even set up the press for $20.75 ;p |
13:18 |
benkay |
davout: more tunes still on offer? |
13:19 |
davout |
benkay: sure! later tonight tho, gotta wrap some stuff up |
13:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.0059977 = 0.3839 BTC [+] |
13:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.06178989 = 0.4943 BTC [+] |
13:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.103 = 0.927 BTC [+] |
13:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm gonna try to get Havelock to fix this market cap bullshit |
13:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
how many SMG shares are there again? |
13:20 |
benkay |
bahaha |
13:20 |
benkay |
davout: i'll check in tomorrow, busy tonight |
13:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.0059978 = 0.3659 BTC [+] {2} |
13:20 |
davout |
no worries :D |
13:20 |
benkay |
ThickAsThieves: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MG |
13:21 |
nubbins` |
that doesn't tell the total # of shares |
13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess it's abstracted by warrant |
13:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
s |
13:21 |
mike_c |
;;calc 12157 / .000138 |
13:21 |
gribble |
88094202.8986 |
13:21 |
nubbins` |
well that's the thing about warrants |
13:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0059978 = 0.2279 BTC [+] |
13:21 |
mike_c |
^ that many shares |
13:21 |
benkay |
http://trilema.com/2014/smg-january-2014-statement/ |
13:21 |
ozbot |
S.MG, January 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
13:21 |
mike_c |
and about the same # of warrants |
13:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
hmm |
13:22 |
benkay |
wait why i am i doing mp's work for him |
13:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
so really havelock would need to pull that count dynamically |
13:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11475881 BTC [+] |
13:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 320 @ 0.00599885 = 1.9196 BTC [+] {5} |
13:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.49 = 1.47 BTC [-] |
13:22 |
nubbins` |
can they do that? |
13:22 |
mike_c |
shares is fixed. warrants are somewhat dynamic. |
13:22 |
benkay |
they can't do that? |
13:22 |
mike_c |
btcalpha manages :) |
13:23 |
nubbins` |
btcalpha accomodates shares being created after the fact? |
13:23 |
mike_c |
it accomodates warrants being issued |
13:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 227 @ 0.0055 = 1.2485 BTC |
13:24 |
nubbins` |
suppose i cash in my warrant today. 192,000 s.mg shares get pushed to my account |
13:24 |
nubbins` |
how does havelock find out about this? |
13:24 |
mike_c |
monthly statement |
13:24 |
benkay |
sounds like a thing havelock and the pt managers should really have thought about. |
13:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00599999 = 0.408 BTC [+] {2} |
13:24 |
nubbins` |
mike_c: so the numbers could be inaccurate on havelock for up to 30 days |
13:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
well this week havelock becomes the PT manager |
13:25 |
mike_c |
only sort of. fully dilute market cap doesn't change |
13:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
surely James and Mircea can sort out a way to reliably get a count |
13:25 |
benkay |
guess that means you don't have to worry about any of this bullshit, eh, ThickAsThieves? |
13:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
well i want neo's to be right mostly |
13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
S.MG has a total of 88`096`605 authorised shares outstanding |
13:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17068 @ 0.00088091 = 15.0354 BTC [+] |
13:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.00599892 = 1.2658 BTC [-] {3} |
13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
and why are warrants included or what are we discussing ? |
13:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
they arent included, but they are a factor should they be rendered, no? |
13:26 |
nubbins` |
i think the question is how havelock knows total # of shares |
13:27 |
nubbins` |
when people can cash out warrants whenever they want |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
and for that matter s.mg can write more warrants whenever it wants. |
13:28 |
nubbins` |
nod |
13:28 |
nubbins` |
this presents a problem to be solved if havelock wishes to display a live count of the number of shares existing |
13:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
it just means the cap needs to be more dynamic than ASICMINER for example |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
this is what jurov likes so much about mpex |
13:29 |
nubbins` |
anyway bbl i gotta run an errand |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` well generally share counts change. corps do share-based acquisitions and mergers, splits, reverse splits |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
warrants and options are exercised all the time |
13:29 |
mircea_popescu |
kind-of why the key figures are reported a certain way in fiat. |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
nod |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
wait, i said bbl |
13:30 |
nubbins` |
for real this time! |
13:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
alright, short email to Havelock CEO sent, I even gave him all the dataz. |
13:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
(for SMG, AM, NEO) |
13:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
everyone else can get fukt i guess |
13:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11475881 = 0.2295 BTC [+] |
13:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0617 = 0.1234 BTC [-] |
13:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+] |
13:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.00599869 = 1.9376 BTC [-] {3} |
13:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00599975 = 0.198 BTC [+] {2} |
13:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11499999 = 0.23 BTC [+] |
13:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;calc .000599975*16000000 |
13:40 |
gribble |
9599.6 |
13:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;ticker |
13:40 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.37, Best ask: 585.65, Bid-ask spread: 1.28000, Last trade: 584.37, 24 hour volume: 50743.47596829, 24 hour low: 509.96, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 561.356989288 |
13:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;calc 9599.6*584.37 |
13:40 |
gribble |
5609718.252 |
13:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10499999 BTC [+] |
13:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
oops |
13:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
should be 10x |
13:41 |
ThickAsThieves |
NEOBEE at $56.1m |
13:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.00599963 = 0.648 BTC [-] {3} |
13:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06178989 = 0.3089 BTC [+] |
13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
160mn shares ? |
13:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
16m |
13:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
i had the price wrong |
13:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1055 = 0.211 BTC [+] {2} |
13:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.0059996 = 0.162 BTC [-] |
13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. bank of cyprus was what, 350mn ? |
13:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.005998 = 0.12 BTC [-] {2} |
13:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
€ 371.59m |
13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
well so almost there |
13:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.005998 = 1.0077 BTC [-] {2} |
13:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 253 @ 0.000501 = 0.1268 BTC [+] |
13:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://gothamist.com/2014/02/26/spike_lee_goes_off_about_the_mother.php |
13:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm having real trouble understanding the growing trend of american anti-gentrificationism |
13:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.061 = 0.305 BTC [-] {2} |
13:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00599972 = 0.75 BTC [+] |
13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
"we're poor and dirty why should anyone be rich" not enough ? |
13:52 |
mooninite |
MtGox Update 3: I found it, my usb with 700k bitcoins, It had fell down the side of the sofa at starbucks, withdrawals to resume soonish. |
13:52 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: people dream of keeping their money |
13:52 |
asciilifeform |
is this really deep science? |
13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
"You have to come with respect. Theres a code." |
13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha epic. |
13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
fuck you and your fucking code. |
13:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
the comments are ridiculous "Why does it take an influx of white New Yorkers in the South Bronx, in Harlem, in Bed Stuy, in Crown Heights for the facilities to get better? Why did it take this great influx of white people to get the schools better? The garbage wasn’t picked up every motherfuckin’ day when I was living in 165 Washington Park... The police weren’t around... When |
13:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
you see white mothers pushing their babies in strollers, three o’clock in the morning on 125th Street, that must tell you something." |
13:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
why? cuz you didnt |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, some people suck, some don't. whee why should this be, whoo how could this be. |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
it just is. |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
part of it, of course, has to do with "the code". |
13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
some codes suck. |
13:55 |
asciilifeform |
in america, there are (de-facto) radically different 'tax rates' (not tax properly speaking, but rent) for different castes |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no such thing as a right to one's code just because it exists or just because it's different. |
13:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
god forbid a mom can walk down a street safely |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
get a good code or stfu. |
13:55 |
asciilifeform |
you can squeeze into the rent zone of a different caste if you're willing to live where it lives |
13:55 |
asciilifeform |
but when people do it en mass, the landlords adjust the price |
13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform pretty much. |
13:55 |
asciilifeform |
this is called, for some reason, 'gentrification' |
13:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
i thought it was called 'life' |
13:56 |
asciilifeform |
just explaining for people who have never been to the u.s. |
13:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
or maybe 'progress' |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
so it works roughly like this. you're a programmer or whatnot, and live in a repurposed warehouse, with armoured doors. and life is good, you pay 1/10 of your money as rent |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
then the other programmers think you're clever and get the same idea |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
in a few years the street is full of people like yourself and you pay the mandatory 1/2 of your money as rent. |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform amusingly historic data from 1600s and 1700s shows avg rents being about 5% of income |
13:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
i visited the tenderloin in SF, i dont know what the fuck they are clinging on to |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
with tax trailing around 4% |
13:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's a pit |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
those were the dark ages |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
today people pay 50% ish in tax and 25% in rent. |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
and then in most places another 10%ish in vat and vat-like taxes. |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
leaving them with about 1 in 10 of their income |
13:59 |
asciilifeform |
show people what fraction of their net crop medieval serfs paid, and no one believes you. |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
as opposed to the traditional TAKING 1 of 10 |
13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
right-o. |
14:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13587998 BTC [+] |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
you need a whole of a lot of progress to get people thinking they're better off in vermin infested shitholes today than they were in 1500 |
14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
"When Michael Jackson died they wanted to have a party for him in motherfuckin Fort Greene Park and all of a sudden the white people in Fort Greene said, 'Wait a minute! We cant have black people having a party for Michael Jackson to celebrate his life. Whos coming to the neighborhood? |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
well honestly now... why would white people let black people throw parties for mj's death ? |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
he was white. |
14:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00599975 = 0.186 BTC [+] {2} |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
give him at least that much. |
14:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
14:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
he did work hard for it |
14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ikr/ |
14:02 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, the bitcoin Rift guild is about to pass 1k players 0.o |
14:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
is the game fun? or you just in it for the economy? |
14:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00598329 = 0.8137 BTC [-] {4} |
14:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
i have it uninstalled |
14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
im mostly doing it for the economy |
14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
which i pretty much own |
14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
but the game is like wow withot the stupid shit |
14:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 143 @ 0.00596738 = 0.8533 BTC [-] {6} |
14:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49899998 BTC [+] |
14:05 |
mooninite |
s/Rift/Guild Wars2/ |
14:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i never tried gw |
14:07 |
mircea_popescu |
2 |
14:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 17 @ 0.00599976 = 0.102 BTC [+] |
14:09 |
mooninite |
I played Rift, it was def a step of from the likes of WoW. But GW2 is the epitome of "without the stupid shit" |
14:09 |
mooninite |
no gear treadmill, skill oriented gameplay |
14:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC |
14:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0605 = 0.3025 BTC [-] |
14:09 |
mooninite |
anyways |
14:09 |
* |
mooninite continues to lurk |
14:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00599976 = 0.174 BTC [+] |
14:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.16230094 = 2.1099 BTC [-] |
14:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.00599999 = 0.126 BTC [+] |
14:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
14:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.060377 = 2.0528 BTC [-] |
14:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00599999 = 1.338 BTC [+] |
14:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00599999 = 0.708 BTC [+] |
14:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00599999 = 2.7 BTC [+] |
14:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1738 @ 0.00599999 = 10.428 BTC [+] {3} |
14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
mooninite how does the gear threadmill work ? |
14:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13125 @ 0.00088005 = 11.5507 BTC [-] |
14:19 |
mooninite |
at max level, everyone's gear stats hit the same ceiling. There's no quest for bigger and better loots. Some people dislike this fact, but I find it nice to be able to quit playing for a few weeks, come back and not feel like everyone else progressed beyond me |
14:19 |
mooninite |
there are ascended and legendary items that would be the sort of 'epic' rarity loots but their stats are barely higher than the regular items, only they look nicer and have particle effects |
14:20 |
mooninite |
so it's a level playing field, and if you want to farm and go out of your way to get the rarest items, you can -- but they will not immediately make you stronger than everyone else, it's just for looks |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
so how the heck does crafting work then ? |
14:20 |
the20year2 |
*possibly* dumb question, but would it be possible to request the listing of an asset on mpex via a pre-existing account, or does it have to be done from a brand new one? |
14:20 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year2 there's no requirement it be a new account |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think any assets were listed off new accounts anyway, what sense'd that make ? |
14:21 |
mike_c |
% as rent has more to do with density, no? |
14:21 |
the20year2 |
My primary concern/question if the requirement is always 30btc to list an asset |
14:21 |
mike_c |
% as rent climbs as population density rises |
14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no 30 btc to list an asset tho. |
14:22 |
the20year2 |
But, 30btc to sign up an account |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
mpex works exactly like a stock exchange is supposed to work, the asset should ideally take an underwriter |
14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
which is someone with the experience and contacts required to maintain the financial side of things. |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
if every ipo also bought a pit spot it'd be the fucking end of the world over at nyse. |
14:23 |
mircea_popescu |
in some cases obviously the asset is owned by an actual investment bank which already has a seat. this is by no means common or the rule. esp as things mature. |
14:23 |
the20year2 |
And who is the contact? |
14:24 |
the20year2 |
You're talking about market makers, correct? |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the contact for what exactly ? |
14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
uh no. |
14:24 |
the20year2 |
the underwriter for an asset on mpex |
14:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00087857 = 20.5585 BTC [-] {3} |
14:25 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no requirement that the underwriter marketmakes |
14:26 |
mircea_popescu |
with the exception of x.eur and the options, mpex assets aren't mm'd specifically |
14:26 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone can be the mm or somescuh. |
14:26 |
the20year2 |
I guess I'm trying to determine if there'd be use in whether there would be a use for a USD rentalstarter bond on mpex |
14:26 |
the20year2 |
And if so, the costs of doing such |
14:27 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
14:27 |
the20year2 |
We should hit $500k in total NAV by June, which is good, but i don't know if it's enough still in order to get a portfolio lender to consider us |
14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
well, if you aren't in the business, the logical step would be to talk to someone who is. |
14:28 |
the20year2 |
Which was the whole idea behind doing this 2nd round of funding via havelock. So, then i've got to consider what non-share options there exist for business financing. Issuing interest bearing bonds are one of those things that many businesses do when they don't/can't apply for bank financing. |
14:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.115 = 3.45 BTC [+] {3} |
14:29 |
mike_c |
but you'd have to pay interest in btc.. |
14:29 |
the20year2 |
Well , if it works as a BTC short, then the interest being paid would be tied to USD rather than BTC, but still paid via btc as the medium |
14:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11520433 = 0.2304 BTC [+] {2} |
14:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00087823 = 2.6786 BTC [-] |
14:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.11540966 = 0.8079 BTC [+] |
14:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14720 @ 0.0008781 = 12.9256 BTC [-] {3} |
14:30 |
nubbins` |
<mircea_popescu> today people pay 50% ish in tax and 25% in rent. <<< you're obviously not from canada |
14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` was thinking more of a us thing. |
14:31 |
the20year2 |
isn't it flipped in canada? |
14:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11540966 = 0.2308 BTC [+] |
14:33 |
the20year2 |
Then of course, depending on the cost, issuing bonds in the US may be preferential to pursuing issuance on a bitcoin based exchange |
14:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00599999 = 0.396 BTC [+] |
14:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00599999 = 0.132 BTC [+] {2} |
14:35 |
the20year2 |
Hopefully I'm making sense |
14:35 |
the20year2 |
The two questions are : Would a USD bond (to short BTC:USD) be useful on somewhere like mpex, and if so, what would the cost be to do such a venture from the issuer standpoint |
14:35 |
nubbins` |
wait, sorry, 25% of gross pay |
14:35 |
nubbins` |
i see |
14:36 |
nubbins` |
~50% of net for housing is the norm here |
14:36 |
the20year2 |
US they want to see 35% |
14:36 |
mike_c |
there's already a btc hedge on mpex in x.eur. i'm not sure how much appetite you'll find for a bond that will decrease in NAV and interest rate as btc rises. |
14:36 |
nubbins` |
depending on your tax bracket, that could be around 25% of gross |
14:36 |
the20year2 |
and that includes usually utilities |
14:37 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year2 what makes you tihnk you have the credibility to issue bonds in the first place ? |
14:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.00088321 = 0.2208 BTC [-] |
14:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 491 @ 0.00599996 = 2.946 BTC [-] {7} |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean equity is one thing, people love throwing money away |
14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
but a fixed upside requires a very narrow downside. |
14:38 |
the20year2 |
I'd like to think i've been more transparent with rentalstarter than most other issuers have been with their respective listings. Of course, i'm still asking if this is a possibility at any rate |
14:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 220 @ 0.00086551 = 0.1904 BTC [-] {2} |
14:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.1155 = 0.3465 BTC [+] |
14:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 201 @ 0.006 = 1.206 BTC [+] {5} |
14:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00087755 = 11.9786 BTC [-] {4} |
14:40 |
mircea_popescu |
a possibility it is, of course, but transparency is hardly much of a qualification. |
14:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.006 = 0.93 BTC [+] {2} |
14:41 |
the20year2 |
With the number of companies that have outright scammed people i'd kind of expect it to at least play a partial role in future issuer plans. |
14:41 |
mike_c |
how many companies on mpex have scammed people? |
14:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00599999 = 0.408 BTC [-] {2} |
14:42 |
the20year2 |
I'm not aware of any, however i'm talking about the landry list of stocks out there that have. |
14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
in general companies that can't finance themselves through stock issuance have little or no hope of placing bonds successfully. |
14:43 |
mircea_popescu |
at least i've never heard of pinksheet bonds issuance. |
14:44 |
thestringpuller |
people need to stop financing period until their business actually runs |
14:44 |
the20year2 |
There's a medium sized REIT i ran into out of texas that issued bonds here pretty recently in the same way I would like to do ours |
14:44 |
the20year2 |
To issue bonds in the US, up to $50m all that is required is to issue a PPM and file with the SEC in the respective investor's state |
14:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 167 @ 0.00599999 = 1.002 BTC [-] {2} |
14:45 |
the20year2 |
Then, depending on accreditation you then are limited to a number of investors |
14:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00599999 = 0.33 BTC [-] |
14:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00599999 = 0.54 BTC [-] |
14:49 |
mircea_popescu |
what's "run into" mean ? |
14:49 |
mircea_popescu |
jesus fuck, i go craft, check twitter half hour later, 24 interactions |
14:49 |
mircea_popescu |
how is one supposed to handle this shit |
14:49 |
thestringpuller |
you ignore them |
14:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10997 @ 0.00088005 = 9.6779 BTC [+] |
14:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00599999 = 0.45 BTC [-] |
14:51 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess so. |
14:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.006 = 0.24 BTC [+] |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
actually goes pretty fast. |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
most of it is just spam basically made to make one feel important. |
14:52 |
mircea_popescu |
takes about 3 minutes to cut through 25 interactions. |
14:54 |
the20year2 |
at least bots think you're important |
14:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00599 = 1.198 BTC [-] {2} |
15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
not a matter of bots, just, all interaction is split up in n atomic bits |
15:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1155 BTC [+] |
15:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018499 = 0.185 BTC [+] |
15:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 362 @ 0.00050899 = 0.1843 BTC [+] {2} |
15:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00599998 = 0.612 BTC [+] |
15:05 |
mike_c |
the gox failure has clearly been depressing ATC prices.. |
15:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00088005 = 7.7444 BTC [+] |
15:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00599999 = 0.372 BTC [+] |
15:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02289649 = 0.229 BTC [-] |
15:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.businessinsider.com/senator-calls-for-bitcoin-ban-2014-2 |
15:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
look at those assholes shoving iphones in his face |
15:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
15:11 |
mike_c |
"I am most concerned that as Bitcoin is inevitably banned in other countries, Americans will be left holding the bag on a valueless currency" |
15:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
have at em boys: https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin |
15:11 |
Jere_Jones |
"ban bitcoin" lol |
15:12 |
ArsKisS |
aaand... it's banned |
15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
what is ? |
15:12 |
ArsKisS |
wait wut |
15:12 |
ArsKisS |
bitcoin |
15:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1124 @ 0.00052998 = 0.5957 BTC [+] {4} |
15:12 |
mircea_popescu |
in pakistan ? |
15:12 |
ArsKisS |
aah |
15:12 |
ArsKisS |
you didn't see the rows before my comment |
15:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
every politician needs some aide telling him to consider what implications his comments have on the US dollar |
15:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
ban USD! |
15:13 |
ArsKisS |
[22:11:12] <ThickAsThieves> have at em boys: https://twitter.com/Sen_JoeManchin |
15:13 |
ArsKisS |
[22:11:35] <Jere_Jones> "ban bitcoin" lol |
15:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
[15:09] <ThickAsThieves> http://www.businessinsider.com/senator-calls-for-bitcoin-ban-2014-2 |
15:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
[15:09] <ThickAsThieves> look at those assholes shoving iphones in his face |
15:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
[15:09] <ThickAsThieves> lol |
15:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
^ mp |
15:13 |
asciilifeform |
only reason the ban isn't official yet is that ft. meade hasn't finished the beta version of the IRSCoin that u.s. citizens will be asked to trade their TerroristCoins for. |
15:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Bitcoin has also become a haven for individuals to buy black market items. " shit it's harder to get stuff with bitcoin than dollars now |
15:14 |
mircea_popescu |
oic |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
meanwhile i'm having fun on twitter with twerps who describe themselves as "Strategy & Research" |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
and then do website design for a living. |
15:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
i wonder, is there a legal ground for disallowing the USG to ban it on grounds that it would destroy huge amounts of wealth for US citizens already invested? |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
because srsly. that's where it's aty. |
15:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves no. |
15:16 |
mircea_popescu |
the usg has the god given right to destroy any wealth of its citizens it can. |
15:16 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: hemp, gold, 100 other historical examples |
15:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
i like those examples |
15:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz they failed |
15:17 |
ArsKisS |
http://auroracoin.org/ |
15:17 |
ArsKisS |
btw what do you think? |
15:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
scam |
15:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00087832 = 8.6954 BTC [-] |
15:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00599999 = 0.3 BTC [+] |
15:17 |
ArsKisS |
ThickAsThieves, iceland government gonna scam their citizens? |
15:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
where do you see the gov being involved? |
15:18 |
ArsKisS |
afaik they gonna distribute |
15:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
afaik? |
15:18 |
gx |
god, that article just drives me nuts |
15:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
k more |
15:18 |
ArsKisS |
as far as i know |
15:18 |
gx |
we should ban it, because it's unstable |
15:18 |
gx |
rofl |
15:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
you dont know |
15:18 |
ThickAsThieves |
is what you mean to say |
15:18 |
asciilifeform |
national altchains are inevitable - just like the idiot national cryptosystems of the '80s-90s |
15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i bet you not in 2014. |
15:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe so, but auroracoin isnt one |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
as soon as these folks figure out how to diddle the crypto |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
not even |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
straight key escrow is a little out of fashion |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
as soon as they figure out wtf they are. will be 2015 at the ealiest. |
15:19 |
asciilifeform |
it's gonna have to be something more subtle |
15:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00599998 = 0.24 BTC [-] |
15:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's premined and there's a hard fork already?! |
15:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
lolroracoin |
15:19 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
15:19 |
ArsKisS |
ThickAsThieves, well, that knida explained :P |
15:20 |
Duffer1 |
not like the premine was a lot of coins just a mere 50% |
15:20 |
ArsKisS |
:D |
15:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
the whole thing is absurd and insulting |
15:20 |
gx |
Before the U.S. gets too far behind the curve on this important topic, I urge the regulators to work together, act quickly, and prohibit this dangerous currency from harming hard-working Americans. |
15:20 |
gx |
jesus |
15:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
hard-working americans? |
15:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
15:21 |
mike_c |
what about the lazy americans? |
15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
gx having fun ? |
15:21 |
Duffer1 |
none of that sentence made sense |
15:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
% of hard work performed by bitcoiners = .00000001 |
15:22 |
gx |
i'm fucking raging |
15:22 |
gx |
lol |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
spam because funny : |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@TomHashemi Did you want to share something with the group ? |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu Nope... I've read enough of your nonsense on bitcointalk to do it on twitter as well |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@TomHashemi I don't write on bitcointalk. |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu you are not MPOE-PR or whatever? |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@TomHashemi No. And why am I talking to derps who think they may put "strategy" on their bio when what they do is code websites ? |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu errrr maybe because I do both? try reading the full page before you comment... |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@TomHashemi Sure, most actual strategists I know advertise themselves as cooks, streetsweepers, merchandise stacking "executives" and so on |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@Mircea_Popescu Didn't realise I had to get all my sources of income approved by you before I proceed. I'll remember for next time, thanks. |
15:23 |
mircea_popescu |
@TomHashemi You're from a different movie, seriously. |
15:24 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: wrestling with pigs? |
15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
im on twitter nao |
15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
dun-dundun you're in the shitter nao |
15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXpF2xMlZyQ |
15:25 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
15:25 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 579.64, vol: 51250.82140218 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 566.0, vol: 34102.75551 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 583.2499, vol: 39495.72382802 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 595.02, vol: 338.71655363 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 574.633104, vol: 14739.30100000 | Volume-weighted last average: 576.844443971 |
15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ono! needs more 0s for volume |
15:26 |
BingoBoingo |
So Imma guess this recent drama means rally soon |
15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda been rallying all day. |
15:27 |
midnightmagic |
mircea_popescu: Why do you waste your time with people like that? Is he some kind of uber-wealthy gateway? |
15:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
bitstamp is much less prone to "crashes" on "bad" news like this |
15:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
so glad gox is dead |
15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
midnightmagic cause i'm a fucking verbose idiot basically. |
15:28 |
asciilifeform |
new theory. twitter used by thinking people is really stego blockchain. |
15:28 |
asciilifeform |
4 bits per word. |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform in retrospect, "strategy" on such venues should be taken as an indicator of consumate armchair generalship. |
15:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00485 = 0.1116 BTC [-] |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess protecting the term is impossible, actual people doing strategy will have to find a new word |
15:28 |
midnightmagic |
mircea_popescu: :-/ I don't think so, fwiw. |
15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
kids take over this one |
15:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
"After you ban #bitcoin, could you ban really hot, humid weather? It's really the most annoying weather." |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
midnightmagic no but w/e, he was talking at me on twitter. so i respond. and when i respond to people i don't know it highligths them to research team too, so they give me a "who's this guy". |
15:29 |
asciilifeform |
i've nothing against armchair generals, so long as they don't labour under the delusion of commanding actual soldiers. |
15:29 |
jurov |
asciilifeform that leaves obvious coinclusion about bruce schneiers recommended password solution |
15:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
"please clarify whether this ban would apply to @dogecoin also?" |
15:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
15:29 |
midnightmagic |
doh |
15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
when i get back a "well he makes websites" im like o great |
15:30 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves droopy tits is what they should ban |
15:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
yes! |
15:30 |
mircea_popescu |
big is ok but saggy nobody wants. |
15:30 |
asciilifeform |
i'm a stereotypical, unrepentant armchair general myself. even have a copy of clausewitz somewhere. |
15:30 |
ThickAsThieves |
a scourge on the nation surely |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i don't think armchair generals are allowed clausewitz |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose we may mean different things by the term. |
15:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
someone should do an article on the senator that has "BTCUSD fell -1% on the news" |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
my armchair generals are qualified to discuss anything because they once finished a game of starcraft |
15:31 |
mircea_popescu |
and it was really hard. |
15:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.0008772 = 7.4123 BTC [-] |
15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"mpex drops 1% on news of ceo wasting his time talking to idiots on twitter" |
15:32 |
asciilifeform |
i'm just a noob to the sheer magnitude of the apparent civilizational decay. |
15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc (0.00087832 - 0.0008772 )/ 0.00087832 |
15:32 |
gribble |
0.00127516167228 |
15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
0.1% |
15:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
15:33 |
asciilifeform |
(what's the word for what used to be a normal kid, who wants a time machine so he can get clobbered in stalingrad like a real man? 'armchair private' ?) |
15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
btw, ThickAsThieves saves the day. if bitcoin is banned we move to altcoin |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
how many folks here were armchair privates? |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i don't think these exist anymore, and if they do exist they're prolly girls. |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
wanting to starve as sufragettes or something. |
15:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
that's the plan |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: girls?! explain |
15:34 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
15:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
we must have an "alt"ernative |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
maaaaybe some kid wants to be at stonewall |
15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
without even being gay |
15:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
the senators web page crashed my Opera |
15:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
hax |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
(well... he's bicurious. and he thinks he might be gay) |
15:35 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves, at your request : Ah, che bel vivere, che bel piacere: per un senatore di qualità! di qualità! |
15:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
i requested a mexican translation? |
15:36 |
mircea_popescu |
from "il senatore di faniente", a famous opera |
15:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
ah |
15:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
lemme see if my portuguese can decipher |
15:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
nevermind |
15:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
i see my pretty |
15:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
for one senator |
15:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe i should buy some rosetta stones |
15:38 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: modern boys don't want time machine? |
15:40 |
mircea_popescu |
nah |
15:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00599999 = 0.378 BTC [+] |
15:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49000004 = 2.45 BTC [-] {2} |
15:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 23 @ 0.0055 = 0.1265 BTC |
15:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00087897 = 3.1203 BTC [+] {2} |
15:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 45 @ 0.0055 = 0.2475 BTC |
15:52 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10655270/Plan-to-split-California-into-six-states-gains-ground.html |
15:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1155 BTC [+] |
15:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00599999 = 0.12 BTC [+] |
15:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 206 @ 0.00055 = 0.1133 BTC [+] |
15:54 |
nubbins` |
http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora/Installing_Eulora |
15:54 |
nubbins` |
^ first post :D |
15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
yay! |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha that icon is deathly cute |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
prob needs some editing, i'll take another look over it later. this is my first time writing a wiki article |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
i know hey? |
15:55 |
nubbins` |
wonder what happens if you poke his nose ;( |
15:55 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` btw, you got any crafting done or anything ? |
15:56 |
nubbins` |
no, only got as far as the login screen. keyboard input goes to the terminal window rather than the un/pw textboxes |
15:56 |
nubbins` |
it's a work in progress ;D |
15:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11889 @ 0.00087674 = 10.4236 BTC [-] {2} |
16:00 |
nubbins` |
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/dan-aykroyd-loves-new-face-of-crystal-head-vodka-1.2551755 |
16:01 |
nubbins` |
in other news, you can buy a fucking glass hockey skate filled with whisky now |
16:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00599999 = 0.258 BTC [+] |
16:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11749998 BTC [+] |
16:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
"The hack rates as one of the largest heists in history" |
16:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
re saying Gox lost $400m |
16:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
by what measure? |
16:05 |
azi` |
are we actually sure it was a hack? |
16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao mtgox is a hack nao ? |
16:05 |
azi` |
i'd really like to know what was going on at gox |
16:05 |
azi` |
i mean, no blockchain info about the 700k bitcoins |
16:06 |
azi` |
and its unreasonable to think they lost the wallet to the cold storage thing |
16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
azi` dude, they just bundled everything together. |
16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2014/mtgox-and-ancient-bitcoin-history-the-straight-dope/ |
16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
read that and follow the links. you'll get it. |
16:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
Havelock's response to my market cap fix request "I will keep you posted on when this will be updated and how." |
16:08 |
azi` |
doing it just now.. i am wondering if it can change my view that gox was just too incopetent to run this "get bitcoins and run" scheme |
16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
anyone know a certain Bryce Weiner ? |
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16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
azi` well, let me know. |
16:09 |
crash0verrid3 |
oooo |
16:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
omg someone on twitter just used "Bitcoin is not Quantum Safe, sorry." as an argument |
16:10 |
asciilifeform |
quantum safe? |
16:10 |
azi` |
mircea_popescu: so you think it's in no way related to the fact that they had some legal issues with authorities? |
16:10 |
mike_c |
ThickAsThieves: market cap deja vu.. |
16:10 |
mike_c |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-11-2013#396183 |
16:10 |
azi` |
the case reminds me very much to the case of full tilt poker, really.. |
16:11 |
azi` |
they were stealing large sums of money but everything was fine until the FBI closed them down which caused a panic of withdrawals after reopening |
16:11 |
lnovy |
no order sorting? :( |
16:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
<asciilifeform> quantum safe? // ya we are at the mercy of vitalik's and jordan ash's turing quantum miners |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
azi` basically it's the bitcoinica blueprint rehashed. |
16:12 |
kakobrekla |
the real fear is luke jr, ThickAsThieves . |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
they lost some btc, kept daytrading to make it up, kept losing, |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
had various losses here and there |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
if you add it all up it's 700k btc or w/e |
16:12 |
mircea_popescu |
most of it was when btc was very cheap |
16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
so this presentation overtstates losses to make a better story. |
16:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00599997 = 0.45 BTC [-] |
16:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.bitcoinnotbombs.com/bitcoin-vs-the-nsas-quantum-computer/ |
16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
so today's takeaway is that idiots are remarkable territorial. |
16:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
so are cave men |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
on top of all the bitcoin experts in #bitcoin, #bitcoin-otc, #bitcoin-etc |
16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
and on top of all the various specialist investors on bitcointalk |
16:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00595007 = 0.3273 BTC [-] |
16:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-] |
16:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://gawker.com/meth-cook-busted-wearing-los-pollos-hermanos-shirt-from-1531646479 |
16:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00595006 = 0.1964 BTC [-] |
16:20 |
davout |
evening all |
16:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
is there a place i can easily see who funded the most recent campaigns of a senator? |
16:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06003 = 0.2401 BTC [-] |
16:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.103 = 0.412 BTC [-] |
16:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] |
16:24 |
nubbins` |
hi |
16:24 |
nubbins` |
oops, wasn't scrolled down |
16:24 |
nubbins` |
D: |
16:25 |
ll |
opensecrets.org ? |
16:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
whaddaya know JPMorgan finded Manchin |
16:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
funded* |
16:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
thanks ll |
16:28 |
mircea_popescu |
derp. |
16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
as i was sayin' to erik, the guy's the clown of all time. |
16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/8650 |
16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
A. James Manchin either delighted or appalled the West Virginia voters. Many people, especially senior citizens, loved the attention he bestowed upon them later as Secretary of State. He would produce a certificate with a gold star and make quite a production of just about anyone's service to "Mother West Virginia." Giving away his trademark white or black fedora to young teenage boys along the campaign trail, Manch |
16:29 |
mircea_popescu |
in was known to even pull off the road and attend funerals for people he didn't know. |
16:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00599999 = 0.204 BTC [+] |
16:30 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu: is it okay to copy eulora-specific content wholesale from trilema to the wiki? or would you prefer we link to articles |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ideally link |
16:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00595006 = 0.7497 BTC [-] |
16:31 |
mircea_popescu |
inasmuch as wiki articles are intended ot describe things such as they are, they don't sanely need much more than snippets anwyay |
16:31 |
nubbins` |
nod, true |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean arguably eulora as-is won't match exactly the eulora as-word-of-god |
16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
hence the utility of a wiki in the first place. |
16:32 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
16:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 196 @ 0.00595003 = 1.1662 BTC [-] {3} |
16:33 |
nubbins` |
so, should the need arise, it's fine to paraphrase/summarize info and link to the relevant blog post? |
16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
sure. |
16:33 |
nubbins` |
k |
16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Senator_Byrd_funeral_service.jpg |
16:33 |
mircea_popescu |
how come all the us presidents are wearing cheap synthetic suits ? |
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16:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00573791 = 1.7214 BTC [-] {8} |
16:33 |
nubbins` |
cotton/silk shortage |
16:34 |
thestringpuller |
only jay-z can afford to wear tom ford |
16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't imagine they're trying to buy 50 dollar suits, so you'd expect they could afford something |
16:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00570509 = 1.141 BTC [-] {7} |
16:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
thestringpuller, are you seriously chasing usagi for money? |
16:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.00570001 = 0.4446 BTC [-] {3} |
16:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.0056763 = 1.0274 BTC [-] {6} |
16:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00581293 = 0.5697 BTC [+] {8} |
16:48 |
thestringpuller |
ThickAsThieves: no I want to see who the other shareholders were |
16:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 553 @ 0.00057395 = 0.3174 BTC [+] {4} |
16:52 |
nubbins` |
HIF rallymode |
16:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.00586999 = 1.2327 BTC [+] {3} |
16:53 |
nubbins` |
i had a mid-december sell order get filled overnight |
16:53 |
thestringpuller |
!ticker h hif |
16:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00050000 / 0.00052981 / 0.00057500 (3892 shares, 2.06203014 BTC), 7D: 0.00038617 / 0.00047751 / 0.00057500 (21099 shares, 10.07507839 BTC), 30D: 0.00036000 / 0.00045198 / 0.00057500 (69588 shares, 31.45223437 BTC) |
16:54 |
thestringpuller |
wow |
16:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
has it paid divs? |
16:55 |
mike_c |
no dividends and no financial reports. what exactly are you investing in? |
16:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 114 @ 0.00589998 = 0.6726 BTC [+] {3} |
16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;calc 100000000*.000575 |
16:56 |
gribble |
57500 |
16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;ticker |
16:56 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 567.67, Best ask: 568.11, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 568.11, 24 hour volume: 50469.56136110, 24 hour low: 517.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 566.874713657 |
16:56 |
mike_c |
hm, supposedly there will be quarterly dividends |
16:56 |
mike_c |
maybe that's why rally |
16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;calc 57500*567.67 |
16:56 |
gribble |
32641025.0 |
16:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
HIF worth $32.6m |
16:57 |
mike_c |
there are 100m units of hif |
16:57 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
16:57 |
nubbins` |
i'm investing in a cut of listing fees ;p |
16:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
the rally is the Neo bump |
16:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
reddit went wild and added new users |
16:57 |
nubbins` |
this is the first time it's stayed above 0.005 for any length of time since IPO |
16:58 |
nubbins` |
i should really add "nubbins" to my highlight list |
16:58 |
nubbins` |
not everyone uses tab-complete ;( |
16:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
add nub too :) |
16:59 |
mike_c |
their prospectus says they are going to make 6,000 btc in 2014. so quarterly dividend would be.. |
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16:59 |
thestringpuller |
and nug |
16:59 |
mike_c |
;;calc (6000 /4) / 100000000 |
16:59 |
gribble |
1.5e-05 |
16:59 |
nubbins` |
i added nubs. worried about false positives |
17:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00599 = 0.5331 BTC [+] {2} |
17:00 |
mike_c |
;;calc .00006 / .000575 |
17:00 |
gribble |
0.104347826087 |
17:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.005998 = 0.6658 BTC [+] {3} |
17:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 132 @ 0.00599363 = 0.7912 BTC [-] {3} |
17:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1537 @ 0.00599579 = 9.2155 BTC [+] {7} |
17:08 |
mircea_popescu |
<ThickAsThieves> HIF worth $32.6m <<< 1/10 of Bank of Cyprus ? |
17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` the ` is silly anyway |
17:10 |
nubbins` |
YOU'RE SILLY |
17:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.0059 = 0.3422 BTC [-] |
17:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.0059 = 0.8083 BTC [-] |
17:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
17:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60550 @ 0.00087658 = 53.0769 BTC [-] {4} |
17:16 |
nubbins` |
p liked the shepherd's pie i made |
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17:17 |
nubbins` |
"the key to a woman's puss is through her guts", i said |
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17:17 |
nubbins` |
she suggested i write a book |
17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
everyone likes fucking people who cook well |
17:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00599 = 0.2995 BTC [+] |
17:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00599 = 0.1198 BTC [+] |
17:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00599 = 0.1318 BTC [+] |
17:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11749998 BTC [+] |
17:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 379 @ 0.0059 = 2.2361 BTC [-] {3} |
17:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49899 BTC [+] |
17:33 |
benkay |
"u wanna get fucked? i wanna steak. i'm sure we can figure something out here." |
17:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00597 = 0.6627 BTC [+] |
17:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00598999 = 0.6589 BTC [+] |
17:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00598192 = 0.7059 BTC [-] {6} |
17:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00596876 = 0.6685 BTC [-] {5} |
17:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00597999 = 0.5502 BTC [+] {2} |
17:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 221 @ 0.00597999 = 1.3216 BTC [+] |
17:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.1155 = 1.0395 BTC [-] {2} |
17:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00597999 = 0.2452 BTC [+] |
17:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00597999 = 0.1973 BTC [+] |
17:48 |
nubbins` |
mike_c: FYI, i get a "Database error" page every time i commit an update -- doesn't seem to affect anything tho |
17:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
Official Neo Update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg5394823#msg5394823 |
17:48 |
mike_c |
hm. ok, i'll check it out |
17:48 |
nubbins` |
"A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software." |
17:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
some funny pics of people looking at people's asses in there |
17:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
like half the pics really lol |
17:52 |
kakobrekla |
why is the merchant copy printed first on the terminal |
17:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
to annoy i guess |
17:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
my question would be, why is there a merchant copy |
17:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00598175 = 3.1404 BTC [+] {3} |
17:54 |
mike_c |
how many suits does it take to cut the entrance rope? |
17:54 |
nubbins` |
record keeping! |
17:54 |
nubbins` |
OH WAIT |
17:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
rope has infinite hit points |
17:54 |
nubbins` |
but srs, paper trail |
17:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
so print a daily report? |
17:54 |
nubbins` |
same reason voting machines have printouts |
17:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
hourly? |
17:54 |
nubbins` |
(do they?) |
17:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dunno |
17:54 |
nubbins` |
i'm guessing, we use paper+pencil to vote here in canada |
17:55 |
kakobrekla |
rope can be overtaken but you need strategy, raw power wont do |
17:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
voting isnt even standardized |
17:55 |
nubbins` |
voting in usa seems like a mess |
17:55 |
nubbins` |
by design |
17:55 |
nubbins` |
to enable fraud |
17:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.0055 = 0.1045 BTC |
17:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 456 @ 0.00599617 = 2.7343 BTC [+] {3} |
17:58 |
ArsKisS |
http://bitcoinful.com/post/77908378925/hitler-finds-out-bitcoin-survived-mtgox-crash |
17:59 |
kakobrekla |
yes i was afraid of that. |
17:59 |
kakobrekla |
when will we see dogecoin-finds-out-bitcoin-survived-mtgox-crash |
18:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00599896 = 1.0198 BTC [+] {2} |
18:00 |
nubbins` |
when will my palm divorce my face |
18:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.005999 = 0.144 BTC [+] |
18:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00088005 = 9.9886 BTC [+] |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"The variety of these businesses is excellent, and a future where Cypriots will be in a position to use Euros only to pay government institutions is within sight." |
18:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves what / |
18:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00598 = 0.2631 BTC [-] |
18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
don't tell me somebody took a text with "euro" in it and tried to s/euro/bitcoin by hand |
18:03 |
mircea_popescu |
and failed at it. |
18:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00598 = 2.99 BTC [-] |
18:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
hmm? |
18:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00598 = 0.4605 BTC [-] |
18:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 46 @ 0.0055 = 0.253 BTC |
18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
cypriots can not currently use euros to pay taxes ? |
18:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's a twisty sentence that's supposed to say he thinks bitcoin can be the main means of commerce |
18:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
ah the placement of only is what;s confusing |
18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
he means "to only use euros to pay" ? |
18:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1322 @ 0.00055 = 0.7271 BTC [-] {2} |
18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_2Ofv1L9CU |
18:06 |
ozbot |
Greeks Anything you can do we already did better - YouTube |
18:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
thx |
18:06 |
nubbins` |
yes |
18:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'll get it fixt |
18:06 |
nubbins` |
to only use euros |
18:07 |
nubbins` |
s/only/solely |
18:07 |
nubbins` |
"...Cypriots will be in a position to use Euros solely to pay government institutions" |
18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
well i guess the part where his feedback sources are tardtalk, tarddit and tardtweer is oddly adequate. |
18:08 |
mircea_popescu |
"can not write copy, great results from the pleb venues" |
18:08 |
nubbins` |
yesterday i learned that all that shit in the bible about speaking in tongues is pretty much only in the english versions |
18:09 |
Vexual |
wanna hear confusing, i woke up with a ticket to macau |
18:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00599999 = 0.54 BTC [+] |
18:09 |
kakobrekla |
in which hole? |
18:09 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1663645/plain/) |
18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 3 |
18:10 |
nubbins` |
glory |
18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
how long had you been saving that one k ? |
18:10 |
nubbins` |
he has it on trigger |
18:10 |
kakobrekla |
lol i didnt |
18:11 |
nubbins` |
okay, at the risk of yammering on about something nobody cares about |
18:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00599999 = 0.27 BTC [+] |
18:11 |
nubbins` |
mark is chronologically the first gospel |
18:11 |
nubbins` |
not only does it make no mention of a virgin birth -- in fact, jesus is referred to as a son of mary -- but it ends when jesus dies. |
18:12 |
nubbins` |
they go to the tomb, and a young man -- not an angel -- says: |
18:12 |
nubbins` |
“Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has risen; he is not here. See the place where they laid him. But go, tell his disciples and Peter that he is going before you to Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.” And they went out and fled from the tomb, for trembling and astonishment had seized them, and they said nothing. |
18:12 |
nubbins` |
AND THAT'S THE END OF THE BOOK. |
18:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00599999 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2} |
18:12 |
ThickAsThieves |
blasphemy! |
18:13 |
nubbins` |
centuries later it was felt that this was improper, because all the subsequent gospels have shit about virgin births and resurrections |
18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
not particularly novel this you know ? |
18:13 |
nubbins` |
so they tacked on an ending to it |
18:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.061687 = 0.3701 BTC [+] {3} |
18:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.102 = 0.204 BTC [-] {2} |
18:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2} |
18:13 |
nubbins` |
new to me ;) |
18:13 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda xtianity 101 in actual academia. |
18:13 |
nubbins` |
sadly, i wasted my university years studying science instead |
18:14 |
Vexual |
anrthropology? |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
history of religion too. |
18:14 |
nubbins` |
vexual, math |
18:14 |
mircea_popescu |
there's about four different humanities paths that end up there |
18:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
anyone have thoughts on LASIK? |
18:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
will i go blind at 60? |
18:15 |
nubbins` |
anthropology is actually Arts, not Science, here |
18:15 |
nubbins` |
(fwiw, math can be studied as either) |
18:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i know some chicks that got it. |
18:15 |
Vexual |
lasers in the eye is never good tat |
18:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
never? |
18:16 |
nubbins` |
i have a few friends who tried lasik |
18:16 |
nubbins` |
they say they wish they'd done it years before |
18:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
my wife got it, but like i love my vision so much i'm scared to improve it |
18:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
she's 20/15 now |
18:16 |
nubbins` |
yeah, one friend said he has better than 20/20 now |
18:16 |
mircea_popescu |
women generally do it because there's few good woman looks that include glasses. |
18:17 |
nubbins` |
http://heddalettuce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/nana_mouskouri1.jpg |
18:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
meh |
18:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
18:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
contacts work too |
18:17 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah but contacts are a bitch. |
18:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i dont wear thos eeither |
18:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
yep |
18:17 |
asciilifeform |
everyone remembers that ancient sf story where the 'last man alive' find food and a library, and then his glasses break? |
18:18 |
nubbins` |
bummer |
18:18 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPRZ9S-qbI |
18:18 |
ozbot |
Harry Potter Epilogue - Saturday Night Live - YouTube |
18:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00598 = 0.5382 BTC [-] |
18:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00088005 = 13.2888 BTC [+] |
18:24 |
TomServo |
asciilifeform: wasn't that a twilight zone episode? |
18:24 |
asciilifeform |
TomServo: maybe |
18:25 |
asciilifeform |
i distinctly recall reading it on paper though. |
18:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00485313 = 0.9706 BTC [+] {4} |
18:26 |
TomServo |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAxARJyaTEA |
18:26 |
ozbot |
Time Enough at Last - YouTube |
18:26 |
TomServo |
Yeah, it really stuck with me. |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywK1QVNuNU |
18:28 |
ozbot |
Emma Stone Monologue: Nerds Love Emma - Saturday Night Live - YouTube |
18:28 |
mircea_popescu |
check it out, emma stone playing bitcoin. |
18:29 |
TomServo |
asciilifeform: The episode was adapted from a short story written by Marilyn Venable |
18:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
not available in my country |
18:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00599999 = 0.54 BTC [+] |
18:33 |
wao-ender |
lol that show |
18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves you gotta be kidding me |
18:34 |
TomServo |
no kidding |
18:34 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://screen.yahoo.com/emma-stone-monologue-nerds-love-000000328.html |
18:34 |
ozbot |
Emma Stone Monologue: Nerds Love Emma | Saturday Night Live - Yahoo Screen |
18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438818270381355008 |
18:34 |
ozbot |
Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: http://t.co/KLdTeXC4Kb Emma ... |
18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
im putting the link here because something tells me im gonna need it a lot on twitter |
18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
and that thing is so fucking badly organised you can never find anything. |
18:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00599998 = 0.12 BTC [-] {2} |
18:39 |
wao-ender |
damnit |
18:39 |
wao-ender |
I just found great place to organise finest Bitcoin *meetup* https://www.facebook.com/352009638172552/photos/pb.352009638172552.-2207520000.1393457939./381744045199111/?type=3&theater |
18:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00599999 = 0.144 BTC [+] |
18:40 |
ThickAsThieves |
golf in Bratislava? |
18:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5778 @ 0.00088005 = 5.0849 BTC [+] |
18:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.061687 = 0.2467 BTC [+] |
18:44 |
wao-ender |
well, funny is, that resort is just 21 km from Bratislava, not far from border in Hungary, but owned by Slovak group. |
18:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.00599998 = 1.008 BTC [-] |
18:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.499 BTC [+] |
18:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018499 = 0.185 BTC [+] |
18:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00599998 = 0.204 BTC [-] |
18:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 9.18620878 BTC to 18`934 shares, 48517 satoshi per share |
19:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] |
19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the best of course would be this resort five miles out of budapest owned by some slovak people staffed only with czech chicks, serving only slovenian food and with nothing but serbian customers. |
19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i hope i covered them all. |
19:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.00599998 = 0.396 BTC [-] {2} |
19:03 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: now that you mention it, what's your official take on the serbs ? |
19:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00599998 = 0.318 BTC [-] |
19:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00599998 = 0.282 BTC [-] |
19:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i love belgrade |
19:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you ever been ? |
19:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: nope. is it still worth going to after the great clobbering? |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
surely. |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
the great clobbering looks great especially from the us. otherwise, they have a bombed building downtown which they're pretty much preserving as is |
19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
and otherwise you couldn't tell, even in 2007 |
19:07 |
asciilifeform |
i know a fellow who went, and saw the famous airplane |
19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
roads on average better than massachusetts anyway |
19:07 |
asciilifeform |
(what's left of it) |
19:08 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: obligatory on topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1jAmL-rfXU |
19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, no, belgrade is good because hilly town -> nice asses and legs on the teens and tweennysomethings, and good nightlife. |
19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda difficult to hire competent waiters in fucking topeka. |
19:09 |
mircea_popescu |
in belgrade there are people who have worked at it for three generations or more. |
19:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.1055 = 0.5275 BTC [+] |
19:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00599999 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2} |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
"if you convince affluent & educated people something is healthy, it soon ends up correlated with health." |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
dude not everyone on twitter is retarded! |
19:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00599999 = 0.198 BTC [+] |
19:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Is Mark Karpeles buying goxcoin on bitcoinbuilder?? Huge discount could revive Mt.Gox. 50k sold in the last 3 days....hmmm" |
19:16 |
mircea_popescu |
"please care about our shitty website" |
19:17 |
asciilifeform |
re: belgrade: wonder how many americans would curl up and cry if given an uncensored tour of some place not inhabited by 'human lite' (orlov's phrase, not mine) |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform generally, all. |
19:17 |
mircea_popescu |
i used to do it for sport. |
19:18 |
asciilifeform |
drag americans to see real life? |
19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
possibly the peak of it all was the one tme in NY when mugger wouldn't mug me |
19:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"just these other schmucks" |
19:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00088292 = 10.286 BTC [+] {2} |
19:18 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
19:19 |
asciilifeform |
imported mugger? or homegrown american |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
then the street cops were like... one laughing his ass off, the other looking all suspicious at me |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i have no idea, prolly local. |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
some random mutt |
19:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Sure. Just outlining that @twobitidiot is a friend of #bitcoin. His leak seems no more self-serving than @BTCFoundation" |
19:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
biglols! |
19:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves they're new. |
19:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
ok ok |
19:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00599999 = 0.3 BTC [+] |
19:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 110 @ 0.0055 = 0.605 BTC |
19:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00087787 = 32.7446 BTC [-] {3} |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i like how bitcoin might be the first thing since Bill Clinton to get people under 35 to care about politics again |
19:22 |
mircea_popescu |
i thought occupy was that. |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
nah |
19:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-] |
19:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00599998 = 0.318 BTC [-] {2} |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
senators will know the wrath of reddit like never before |
19:22 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
19:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i hope they have troll spray |
19:22 |
mircea_popescu |
do senators even know what reddit is ? |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
theyll have no choice |
19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean... it's like a truck right ? |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
reddit is already demanding an AMA |
19:23 |
asciilifeform |
the toilet attached to the 'series of pipes' |
19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
someone should do a proper set of questions re AMA. |
19:23 |
ThickAsThieves |
you should do an AMA |
19:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"Did you ever fuck a woman hard enough to end up past her cervix" |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"Was it your wife" |
19:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
19:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i did, on something awful. they had a series of aneurisms, |
19:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
you need to work on your brand bro! |
19:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
so reddit can sum you up in 5 words |
19:24 |
mircea_popescu |
do oyu mean my band or my brand ? |
19:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm cool with either |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
o i was getting free fashion advice from some musical talent on twitter earlier |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and also strategy pointers from some webmaster |
19:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
i saw hehe |
19:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
take them suits down a notch |
19:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
too many buttoned buttons |
19:25 |
mircea_popescu |
twss. |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
no but srsly, it's ridiculous, we counted once. the total count of clothing items on ALL THE GIRLS |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
was less than the shit i wore. |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i had 18 things on! |
19:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
see that's branding |
19:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
you get it |
19:26 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: what were you wearing, plate mail? |
19:26 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds more like medieval knighting |
19:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
Mircea Popescu Slave-Driving Billionaire Benevolent 18-piece Suit Aficionado |
19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform lol. well, jacket, vest, tie, shirt, undershirt |
19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a lot of crap that goes into dressing a man. |
19:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
shit i forgot to get Bitcoin in there |
19:27 |
mircea_popescu |
whereas women can get away with one sheer dress and shoes. |
19:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 209 @ 0.0008841 = 0.1848 BTC [-] |
19:28 |
asciilifeform |
that's... 5 ? |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
"Women entrepreneurs, @Square is celebrating you with an event, & @Maggie will teach you important things:" |
19:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform hat, gloves, shoes, socks, complex supports and fulcrums for my cock and balls... |
19:29 |
asciilifeform |
complex supports and fulcrums << codpiece ?! |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
o btw |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
Yet the speaking public imagines #Bitcoin gives a shit @Recode A Long Tail of Whales: Half of Mobile Games Money Comes From 0.15% of Players |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform lol nah. but longjohns! |
19:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49947999 BTC [+] |
19:31 |
MisterE |
thought we were going to have a lot more volatility yesterday than we did |
19:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.1055 = 0.422 BTC [+] |
19:31 |
MisterE |
seems the market has already shrugged off and forgotten Mt.Cox |
19:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11749998 BTC [+] |
19:35 |
mircea_popescu |
"Not for #WomenInTech @Jane_Barratt Is pregnancy an indicator of engagement? @johnsonwhitney @thelist @RuthAnnH" |
19:38 |
Bugpowder |
Is Mark actually using the I forgot the password defense? |
19:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
where? |
19:38 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
19:38 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 593.0, vol: 48924.47505468 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 572.93, vol: 32765.22516 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 596.0, vol: 37428.61558769 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 600.07, vol: 363.66288534 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 583.06265, vol: 14593.70900000 | Volume-weighted last average: 587.870330844 |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: interesting re: serbo-croatian 'urban dictionary' - http://iraan.livejournal.com/426330.html |
19:39 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder gotta play the entire book. |
19:39 |
mircea_popescu |
when i said they're redoing bitcoinica i meant it. |
19:39 |
benkay |
Bugpowder: sauce? |
19:39 |
asciilifeform |
'ruska joga' (russian yoga) - to drink and fall asleep in amazing positions |
19:39 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
19:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00599999 = 1.5 BTC [+] {2} |
19:40 |
Bugpowder |
so fucking funny |
19:40 |
Bugpowder |
On the plane back to LA |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
or 'Лучше когда русские тебе отключат газ, чем немцы – пустят.' (better when the russians turn off your gas, then when germans open up the gas.' |
19:40 |
Bugpowder |
Time to work on my mtgox address analysis again. |
19:40 |
mircea_popescu |
albanian tourism lol |
19:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00599999 = 0.3 BTC [+] |
19:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00088305 = 13.9522 BTC [+] |
19:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1055 = 0.211 BTC [+] {2} |
19:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
Боснийская пирамида ya right lol. |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
they actually have this pyramid-shaped oddity there, i'm told |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
tourist trap |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i never heard of it |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmanagi%C4%87_pyramid_hypothesis |
19:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10589999 BTC [+] |
19:44 |
mircea_popescu |
"В Америке нигга, а в Белграде – цига" |
19:44 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
19:44 |
mircea_popescu |
this is possibly the mother of all false friends. |
19:44 |
mircea_popescu |
they think black people are a sort of us gypsies, but heh. |
19:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25840 @ 0.0008855 = 22.8813 BTC [+] |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
Цыганский год ahahaha ok that i've heard. |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
'Украинец' (ukrainian) - infected usb stick. |
19:45 |
kakobrekla |
not just a tourist trap, some people are real belivers |
19:45 |
mircea_popescu |
amusingly, romanian uses "cat's tits" to indicate superlative achievement. |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
american 'cat's meow' |
19:45 |
kakobrekla |
i have seen them with my own eyes and ears. |
19:46 |
asciilifeform |
(where this expression came from, i never knew) |
19:46 |
jurov |
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/25/us-cybercrime-databreach-idUSBREA1O20S20140225 |
19:46 |
ozbot |
360 million newly stolen credentials on black market: cybersecurity firm |
19:46 |
jurov |
gpx seelling out? |
19:46 |
jurov |
*gox |
19:47 |
kakobrekla |
gox has only 1 mil |
19:47 |
jurov |
ic |
19:48 |
mircea_popescu |
in romanian it's probably cause it rhymes. tita de mita, t͡sɨt͡sa dø mɨt͡sa |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
neat! |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
now that you sounded it out, i'm pretty sure i heard it as a kid somewhere. |
19:50 |
mircea_popescu |
bee's knees is also onomatopaeic so there's a thick line of that. |
19:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11749998 = 0.235 BTC [+] |
19:51 |
mircea_popescu |
amusingly : romanians are universally convinced (through the virtues of nutty p;rimary education) that "romanian is the only language which is written as it is heard" |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
on the grounds that "of course" t, is read as t͡s |
19:52 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2010/singura-limba-care/ if you care to read about me mocking them |
19:52 |
ozbot |
Singura limba care pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
19:52 |
asciilifeform |
seems like everyone with at least a minimally non-braindamaged language grows up convinced of this re: the language |
19:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-] |
19:53 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2011/grafia-istorica-a-limbii-romane/ < and that re the utter pointlessness of "diacritics" |
19:53 |
ozbot |
Grafia istorica a limbii romane pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yeah, i'd say it's a good predictor of sovereignity really. |
19:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-] |
19:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
19:55 |
asciilifeform |
this post was... a call to throw out 'euro' keyboards? |
19:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06002501 = 0.2401 BTC [-] {3} |
19:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.103 = 0.412 BTC [-] {3} |
19:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2} |
19:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] |
19:58 |
kakobrekla |
if you say write ass you speak and read as it is written, i say serbian |
19:58 |
kakobrekla |
lol ass. as. |
19:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49948 = 0.999 BTC [+] |
19:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00599999 = 0.234 BTC [+] |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty much |
20:00 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla clearly your point is innvalid |
20:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00599999 = 0.3 BTC [+] |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i've used the same us standard layout since the 80s. |
20:01 |
mircea_popescu |
back then it plugged into a XT |
20:02 |
kakobrekla |
mircea_popescu nah, you havent seen serbian subs. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
you mean sandwiches ? |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
or like subtitles ? |
20:02 |
kakobrekla |
no |
20:02 |
kakobrekla |
yes |
20:03 |
mircea_popescu |
if (no ==== yes) eval (kako is a girl) |
20:04 |
kakobrekla |
anyway, that shit is hilarious. |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
i can't really comfortably read serbian fast enough to watch a movie |
20:05 |
kakobrekla |
dont blame you |
20:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 17 @ 0.00599999 = 0.102 BTC [+] |
20:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 550 @ 0.00593959 = 3.2668 BTC [-] {8} |
20:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.507519 = 2.0301 BTC [+] {3} |
20:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00599998 = 0.156 BTC [+] |
20:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00017293 = 0.2594 BTC [-] {8} |
20:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5097888 BTC [+] |
20:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00599997 = 0.384 BTC [-] {2} |
20:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00599998 = 0.612 BTC [-] |
20:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0059 = 0.2655 BTC [-] |
20:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10432 @ 0.00088574 = 9.24 BTC [+] |
20:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.48375982 = 15.4803 BTC [-] {13} |
20:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.0059 = 0.8142 BTC [-] {2} |
20:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.471025 = 3.7682 BTC [-] {3} |
20:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 634 @ 0.00461008 = 2.9228 BTC [-] {19} |
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~ 16 minutes ~ |
20:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 629 @ 0.0059 = 3.7111 BTC [-] |
20:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32745 @ 0.00088363 = 28.9345 BTC [-] {2} |
20:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00599 = 0.599 BTC [+] {2} |
20:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 106 @ 0.46069962 = 48.8342 BTC [-] {35} |
20:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18783 @ 0.00087803 = 16.492 BTC [-] |
20:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 555 @ 0.00599869 = 3.3293 BTC [+] {4} |
20:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00599997 = 0.144 BTC [+] |
20:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 482 @ 0.00599998 = 2.892 BTC [+] {3} |
20:48 |
Bugpowder |
BREAKING: Full Mt. Gox story coming... (self.Bitcoin) |
20:48 |
Bugpowder |
submitted 24 minutes ago by twobitidiot |
20:48 |
Bugpowder |
I now have all of the pieces to the #mtgox puzzle. Mt. Gox acted alone and in desperation. Comprehensive post after I lawyer up. |
20:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00599999 = 0.75 BTC [+] {3} |
20:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10589 = 0.3177 BTC [+] |
20:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06168599 = 0.1234 BTC [+] |
20:49 |
benkay |
well with who else would they be acting? |
20:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.06168689 = 1.2337 BTC [+] {3} |
20:50 |
mircea_popescu |
lol he finally got through the trilema posts ? |
20:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1400 @ 0.00593031 = 8.3024 BTC [-] {6} |
20:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29450 @ 0.00087803 = 25.858 BTC [-] |
20:53 |
asciilifeform |
from the dark depths of the lulz mines: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/26/boeing_black/ |
20:58 |
duduqa |
Hi |
20:59 |
kakobrekla |
hello |
21:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00087656 = 21.1251 BTC [-] {2} |
21:00 |
duduqa |
first of all, I'd like to excuse myself for some dumb stuff I might say...I have no tech nor economics formal background, interested in austrian economics as a hobbist |
21:00 |
duduqa |
may I ask a few questions? |
21:01 |
duduqa |
It seems here's a better place to do so rather than reddit or bitcointalk |
21:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00599993 = 0.24 BTC [-] |
21:04 |
cazalla |
proceed |
21:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.47979998 = 4.798 BTC [+] {5} |
21:05 |
duduqa |
basically what would be your expectations of the consequences of a formal US government (declaraton of) ban of bitcoin. Even as noob as I was, I do not fear stuff as ~bitcoin will die~ |
21:05 |
duduqa |
But would it be able to deter widespread adoption in a matter of generations? |
21:05 |
duduqa |
such as with marijuana? |
21:06 |
duduqa |
given the different dynamics of drugs and currency |
21:06 |
cazalla |
nfi, i'm a dimwit and just lurk |
21:06 |
duduqa |
what would be your expectations |
21:06 |
asciilifeform |
duduqa: generations!? usg is going the way of ck-kpss within the lives of those now living. |
21:06 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: I think so |
21:07 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: unpayable debt, moral degradation fueled by inflation and welfare state etc |
21:08 |
duduqa |
(brazilian here, english not that good, sorry) |
21:08 |
cazalla |
moral degradation, you'd fit in well at /pol/ |
21:09 |
asciilifeform |
no one knows which politician will stand on what kind of tank and proclaim 'the former u.s.a...' but we've all seen this play before. |
21:09 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: sorry, I couldn't understand |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
duduqa: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54697000/jpg/_54697295_tank_reu464.jpg |
21:13 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: :) |
21:13 |
diametric |
oh no. I just discovered archive.org's 42 gig mame collection. |
21:14 |
asciilifeform |
diametric: now all that remains is to buy a 'JXD' and say good-bye to productive career... |
21:14 |
diametric |
JXD? |
21:15 |
asciilifeform |
http://wiki.dingoonity.org/index.php?title=Other_Devices:JXD_S7800B |
21:15 |
ozbot |
Other Devices:JXD S7800B - Dingoonity Wiki |
21:15 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: do you envision the possibility of bitpay and coinbase being shut down, as well as second market's BIT, bitcointalk and localbitcoins.com etc vanishing from america? |
21:15 |
diametric |
oh nice |
21:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.48 = 2.88 BTC [+] |
21:16 |
asciilifeform |
duduqa: i can easily see a 'great firewall of usa' scenario |
21:16 |
asciilifeform |
use your imagination. |
21:17 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: we are talking about a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge power, which is being the printer of the world's reserve currency |
21:17 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: that's too much of a honeypot to let go without a good fight |
21:17 |
kakobrekla |
duduqa , somewhat relevant http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/matters-of-merchant-adoption/ and http://trilema.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/ |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
duduqa: in english, 'honeypot' generally refers to a trap. |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
like a mousetrap |
21:18 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: sorry |
21:18 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: let me clarify...that's too much power to let go |
21:19 |
duduqa |
kakobrekla: I will carefully read, thank you |
21:21 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: I can also imagine a scenario in which such firewall happens to take place in the EU, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Russia, UAE, South America etc |
21:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
fwiw I don't believe USG is capable of any meaningful banning of bitcoin |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: on the contrary, usg can ban whatever it likes. for instance, it is a serious crime in the u.s. to go to a bank and withdraw $2999.99. |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
(check with lawyer for the current magic number.) |
21:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 302 @ 0.00599 = 1.809 BTC [-] |
21:22 |
duduqa |
as disruptive to politics/government/central banks as bitcoin can be, I expect it to be treated and regarded as pedophilia in a short time |
21:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i don't believe it is agile enough to anything meaningful quickly enough to matter |
21:23 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: yep, the "it's ridiculous" argument doesn't stand in such discussion |
21:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00599 = 2.396 BTC [-] |
21:23 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: what saves us from bureaucracy is its inefficiency, indeed |
21:23 |
asciilifeform |
duduqa: expect to see many 'ridiculous' things come alive. |
21:23 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: I see them everyday, and it drives me pretty depressed |
21:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00599 = 0.1198 BTC [-] |
21:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
opponents of severe regulation/banning exist |
21:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
and are vocal |
21:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
and the arguments against bitcoin bring to the table equal criticisms on the dollar |
21:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's very difficult to argue away |
21:25 |
ThickAsThieves |
also banning it is moot |
21:25 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: the question i ask is "would the adoption from small places such as cyprus, or Honduras ZEDEs, or African regions be enough to bring such wealth and power to overcome bitcoin's adversaries?" |
21:25 |
asciilifeform |
the way bans normally work in the u.s. (and elsewhere) is that the infrastructure needed for a proper ban is created under the pretext of 'humane' and 'reasonable' regulation |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
then somebody merely needs to turn the dial |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
from 'low' to 'max' |
21:26 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: I never played poker, so I was not aware of the tremendous resources usg spent fighting against it |
21:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
furthermore, i believe hostility towards such innovation truly will lead to exodus |
21:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
not of everyone |
21:26 |
ThickAsThieves |
just the useful people |
21:26 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: do you think so? |
21:27 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: where to? |
21:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
i know it would be the last straw for me |
21:27 |
Apocalyptic |
<ThickAsThieves> just the useful people // yeah as mircea said |
21:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
even Canada would be an upgrade |
21:27 |
ThickAsThieves |
it already is |
21:27 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: if you're able to leave now, but are waiting for the ban... what are you smoking. |
21:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'm not waiting for anything but my wife to take me seriously |
21:28 |
kakobrekla |
lol |
21:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
:/ |
21:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
put it on my grave i guess |
21:28 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: did you read that document which presumably states that canada govt intends to choke bitcoin's infrastructure? |
21:28 |
ThickAsThieves |
no |
21:29 |
ThickAsThieves |
find it hard to believe as well |
21:29 |
duduqa |
http://blogs.wsj.com/canadarealtime/2014/02/11/canada-regulators-look-at-ways-to-get-a-better-handle-on-bitcoin/ |
21:29 |
ozbot |
Canada Regulators Look at Ways to Get a Better Handle on Bitcoin - Canada Real Time - WSJ |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
'wisdom is - getting on the train one day before everybody else.' (attributed to leo szilard) |
21:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38711 @ 0.00087608 = 33.9139 BTC [-] {3} |
21:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11749998 BTC [+] |
21:29 |
diametric |
stopping bitcoin will work about as well as stopping piracy. |
21:30 |
duduqa |
diametric: are you sure? it seems money operates under different dynamics |
21:30 |
duduqa |
diametric:it doesn't matter to you if only 5% adopt piracy |
21:31 |
asciilifeform |
btc is one thing, if you're handling u.s. dollar transactions from strangers, you'll be set up with a stoolie |
21:31 |
duduqa |
it is a whole different deal if only 0.05% embrace a currency |
21:31 |
asciilifeform |
i believe this is called 'controlled buy' by u.s. polizei |
21:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00599998 = 6 BTC [+] {4} |
21:31 |
ThickAsThieves |
and what do they do about people already "in" bitcoin, yknow it doesnt require cashing out to use |
21:31 |
asciilifeform |
public exchanges are easy, defenceless targets. |
21:32 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: exactly |
21:32 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: localbitcoins.com as well |
21:32 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: bitcointalk too |
21:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
they cant just erase the tech |
21:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
it exists |
21:32 |
ThickAsThieves |
assimilate or eliminate |
21:32 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: I can easily imagine agents infiltrated in facebook groups to refrain people |
21:33 |
diametric |
duduqa: i think you'd be surprised the number of people that pirate content. |
21:33 |
diametric |
but yeah its not a great analogy |
21:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51268 @ 0.0008752 = 44.8698 BTC [-] {4} |
21:33 |
ThickAsThieves |
i already suspect major news comment sections to be riddled with fake anti-bitcoin sentiments |
21:34 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: the power of issuing global's reserve currency is enormous |
21:34 |
asciilifeform |
i'll repeat what i've said in the past: |
21:34 |
asciilifeform |
invent the parachute before, not after, being thrown. |
21:34 |
duduqa |
and once we enter another bubble, a lot more people will put money into bitcoin |
21:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
we can just buy off all the politicians if we need to |
21:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
i know you dont like them, but i'd love to donate to your campaign |
21:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
in bitcoin |
21:36 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: no we can't |
21:36 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: good luck outbidding the folks who print usd |
21:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
true |
21:36 |
duduqa |
asciilifeform: perfect |
21:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
but this senator is singing for 30k |
21:36 |
Apocalyptic |
<asciilifeform> ThickAsThieves: good luck outbidding the folks who print usd // he has a point |
21:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
i guess thats just whats on record |
21:36 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: do you really believe those figures? |
21:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00599 = 0.2995 BTC [-] |
21:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
nah |
21:37 |
duduqa |
I am a deep believer of bitcoin/crypto's ultimate success |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
30k buys jpm a senator. it buys a somali 100k rounds of 7.62x39. it buys you: a toyota. |
21:37 |
duduqa |
but I ask myself if it might take generations to happen |
21:37 |
Diablo-D3 |
wait |
21:37 |
Diablo-D3 |
you can buy a senator for 30k? |
21:37 |
Diablo-D3 |
prices have gone down |
21:37 |
ThickAsThieves |
i just have real difficulty imagining the USG's ability and story of how it may ban crypto |
21:37 |
twizt |
lol |
21:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16282 @ 0.00087407 = 14.2316 BTC [-] |
21:37 |
twizt |
i thought it was 100k |
21:37 |
twizt |
min |
21:37 |
Diablo-D3 |
I thought it was 1m min |
21:38 |
twizt |
nah thats congress bro |
21:38 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: they are able to push this "money laundering" talk based on nothing |
21:38 |
twizt |
senators are cheapp |
21:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
and what if dollar laundering |
21:38 |
mike_c |
depends what you want. if all you want is for them to send a letter, it's cheap. |
21:38 |
ThickAsThieves |
you already have fincen on record saying it's worse |
21:38 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: they were cynnical enough to say they dumped osama's body on the sea |
21:38 |
twizt |
ie. there never was osama |
21:38 |
twizt |
lol |
21:39 |
twizt |
ALL LIES |
21:39 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: they can change oppinion as quick as Sen Schumer |
21:39 |
duduqa |
all that 6-year old plot, Obama whatching on a big screen, live...and sheeple swallowed |
21:40 |
duduqa |
what about banning a cryptocurrwhatever |
21:40 |
duduqa |
it would barely be news in Brazil |
21:40 |
duduqa |
much less a discussion |
21:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00599999 = 0.264 BTC [+] |
21:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7531 @ 0.00087803 = 6.6124 BTC [+] |
21:45 |
duduqa |
kakobrekla: read http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/matters-of-merchant-adoption/ and couldn't agree more |
21:46 |
diametric |
lol.. so latest story going around is MtGox's cold storage failed. As in they can't get the private keys to work properly.. |
21:46 |
diametric |
I kind of want it to be that, because thats just hilarious |
21:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
Pete confuses "vast" majority with social media majority |
21:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30011 @ 0.00087546 = 26.2734 BTC [-] |
21:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
I believe merchant adoption is just a malformed precursor to the 100% Pure Bitcoin Closed Loop Movement |
21:49 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: don't you expect a war against usg before that? |
21:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
as in people invading US soil? |
21:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
not sure the relation you mean here |
21:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
maybe gox's coins were confiscated |
21:53 |
duduqa |
ThickAsThieves: don't you expect usg banning bitcoin before that happens |
21:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
i do not expect the US to ban it at all |
21:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-] |
21:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
21:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00594256 = 2.9713 BTC [-] {6} |
21:55 |
the20year1 |
how does cold storage fail? Do they lose the key? |
21:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
pretty much |
21:55 |
decimation |
I agree with TAT, I think the USG is too weak to actually ban bitcoin |
21:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00053999 = 0.54 BTC [-] |
21:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
theyll prioritize AML at the fiat entry points, then taxation |
21:57 |
decimation |
As to asciilifeform's point about outbidding the fiat printers, I think that's quite possible in an environment where bitcoin is melting up |
21:57 |
decimation |
think owning gold in Weimar Germany |
21:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
the trick about taxation is a personally believe the IRS' grip on auditing to be a myth |
21:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's all automation |
21:58 |
decimation |
except if you actually get audited by a human |
21:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 212 @ 0.00053997 = 0.1145 BTC [-] {2} |
21:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
wouldnt that require every citizen to audit his neighbor? |
21:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
the work is unfathomable |
21:59 |
decimation |
oh, it would be a lottery |
21:59 |
decimation |
only the unlucky will be culled |
22:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59542 @ 0.00087273 = 51.9641 BTC [-] {4} |
22:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
more likely they sum up the amount of eligible tax deductions unclaimed against likely total of fraud and make sure they are still on winning side and call it a day |
22:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
then spend any real work pursuing Google and Apple |
22:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
etc |
22:01 |
decimation |
until there are real laws on the books it's going to be hard to prosecute bitcoin transactions for tax evasion |
22:01 |
the20year1 |
is it provable/possible that gox has 740k bitcoins 'somewhere'? |
22:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
IRS would have any easier time if they adopted bitcoin really |
22:02 |
decimation |
if you pay any tax at all on your bitcoin you probably are safe |
22:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
^ i'm not sure about that |
22:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
i suspect the word bitcoin in your taxes will put you on some list |
22:02 |
decimation |
well don't put bitcoin on your taxes duh |
22:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
better to just call it some other type of broader income |
22:03 |
decimation |
exactly. If you have records and a tax return to show you paid something, you are not going to be a target |
22:03 |
decimation |
at least, it ought to be laughed out of court |
22:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-] |
22:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:07 |
the20year1 |
IRS i imagine will/can treat bitcoin just like transactions or barter |
22:07 |
decimation |
probably |
22:07 |
decimation |
supposedly they are going to issue guidance at some point |
22:07 |
the20year1 |
Either they'll treat it like cash, make coinbase/kraken issue 1099Ks or make bitcoiners issue 1099c |
22:07 |
decimation |
that's where the 'land of the free' is today - waiting for government employees to issue instructions |
22:08 |
the20year1 |
I was involved in a decently sized digital currency long before bitcoin, and the IRS just told them to issue 1099c to everyone who participated, the barter clause has been around for 50+ years |
22:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-] |
22:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-] |
22:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1028 BTC [-] |
22:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol there's a Dota 2 official fantasy league now |
22:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00589988 = 5.8999 BTC [-] {6} |
22:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.494 BTC [+] |
22:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49499999 = 0.99 BTC [+] {2} |
22:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00598999 = 0.8386 BTC [+] {2} |
22:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.495 = 3.465 BTC [+] |
22:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00598996 = 0.2636 BTC [-] {2} |
22:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [+] |
22:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117499 BTC [-] |
22:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10280001 BTC [-] |
22:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-] |
22:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14487 @ 0.00085811 = 12.4314 BTC [-] |
22:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 171 @ 0.00599 = 1.0243 BTC [+] |
22:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17163 @ 0.00085811 = 14.7277 BTC [-] |
22:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00598997 = 0.2995 BTC [-] {2} |
23:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 366 @ 0.0059994 = 2.1958 BTC [+] {3} |
23:08 |
MisterE |
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57619592-38/sen-manchin-demands-complete-us-ban-on-bitcoin/ |
23:08 |
ozbot |
Sen. Manchin demands complete US ban on Bitcoin | Politics and Law - CNET News |
23:09 |
the20year1 |
He's gonna lose his seat anyway |
23:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.0059999 = 0.498 BTC [+] |
23:13 |
Apocalyptic |
good luck with that Sen |
23:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19373 @ 0.00084702 = 16.4093 BTC [-] |
23:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 297 @ 0.00599998 = 1.782 BTC [+] |
23:17 |
the20year1 |
he's already on the block for supporting gun control in west virgina |
23:18 |
asciilifeform |
purpose of this joker is to push 'overton window.' |
23:19 |
asciilifeform |
after him, 'reasonable, humane regulation' will slip by quietly. |
23:23 |
Apocalyptic |
makes sense |
23:32 |
Apocalyptic |
.d |
23:32 |
ozbot |
3.130 billion | Next Diff in 257 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.2684% in 1d 10h 2m 54s |
23:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00599998 = 0.168 BTC [+] |
23:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.061 = 0.122 BTC [+] |
23:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00599998 = 0.222 BTC [+] {2} |
23:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00599998 = 0.36 BTC [+] {2} |
23:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.0059995 = 0.168 BTC [-] |
23:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27027 @ 0.00084702 = 22.8924 BTC [-] |