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00:21 copumpkin :)
00:21 * copumpkin hugs mircea_popescu
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00:23 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#522839 and the next 3 lines, .... looks like mp is running mtgox
00:23 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
00:23 kakobrekla or is it mpgox really.
00:23 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlDXTc8IJ7c
00:23 ozbot Cougar Bourbon Advertisement - YouTube
00:24 kakobrekla no spam
00:25 Vexual sorry
00:26 kakobrekla dont be so apologetic
00:26 kakobrekla say sorry now!
00:26 Vexual fuck off cunt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ScjucUV8v0
00:26 kakobrekla yes yes more like it
00:26 kakobrekla not the link tho
00:26 kakobreklaa THERE YOU ARE!
00:27 mod6 ehlo
00:27 Vexual a?
00:27 mircea_popescu ah here we are back
00:27 Vexual more normal?
00:28 asciilifeform B007, BingoBoingo: i actually had occasion to set up a brand-new ms-dos box just recently.
00:28 kakobrekla yes more normal thanks to my bug report.
00:28 Vexual got the manual no doubt ascii
00:28 asciilifeform Vexual: manual? next, a manual for a knife or fork?
00:28 Vexual real dos has a manual
00:30 kakobrekla i dunno how to use fork manual. anyone got a manual on that?
00:31 kakobrekla meh, ill just put it into automatic mode, it does have my name innit.
00:31 mircea_popescu somalia needs training in using the fork ?
00:31 KRS-One yea
00:31 KRS-One and better
00:31 KRS-One .bait
00:31 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_menyu4mfxm1qc3ldvo1_500.jpg
00:31 kakobrekla no, fork i know, the manual i dont.
00:32 KRS-One her bathing suit came off
00:32 B007 asciilifeform: what was it?
00:32 kakobrekla it makes a lot of sense to wear that
00:32 mircea_popescu her bathing suit looks more like earrings
00:32 kakobrekla you just need 2 cups and you can make an exchange
00:33 kakobrekla or cans, to be more exact
00:33 mircea_popescu i wonder how those people advertise it. "all the cramp and discomfort of a bra with none of the protection!"
00:33 Vexual 24 carat excellence
00:33 kakobrekla if i say cups i get reminded of those cups videos taht you dont want to be reminded of
00:33 asciilifeform B007: box controlling some stepper motors. hence single-tasking OS where you can simply execute 'CLI' and kill interrupts, getting 100% deterministic timing with empty loop.
00:33 B007 nice
00:34 mircea_popescu 99.x% deterministic timing :D
00:34 asciilifeform 100 - clock jitter.
00:34 B007 but wouldn't a microcontroller or real time os make more sense?
00:34 mircea_popescu yea
00:34 asciilifeform might as well be a microcontroller.
00:35 B007 :D
00:35 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhH66kZIAAA6N4k.jpg:large
00:36 B007 oh man might have to send that to some people
00:36 mircea_popescu lol
00:36 kakobrekla i thought thats the bing bang
00:36 mircea_popescu coca-mentos, big-bang, bingoboingo, what diff does it make
00:37 mircea_popescu aren't we all worldending cataclysms ?
00:37 Vexual looks like ascii is spoofing gps
00:37 mircea_popescu btw, since we're on the topic : anyone explain the difference between a clism and a cataclysm ?
00:37 Vexual i still think jurov likes in slovenia, so not me
00:38 asciilifeform Vexual: ?
00:38 kakobrekla ok imma start to think people are getting these countries unintentionally wrong
00:38 Vexual you hacked into the coke truck gps ascii
00:38 mircea_popescu slovakia ?
00:38 Vexual slovakistan!
00:39 mircea_popescu no that's in albania.
00:39 B007 um clism isn't an english word is it
00:39 kakobrekla North Somalia
00:39 mircea_popescu B007 enema
00:39 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my first thought.
00:39 * Vexual extrudes another hernia
00:40 B007 you never make much sense
00:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [-]
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00:42 Vexual i don't know shit, when you get to the big water, it's not austalistan anymore
00:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.101 BTC [-]
00:43 Vexual recognise
00:44 KRS-One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4YutyVP7ig
00:44 ozbot Milkshake with lyrics - YouTube
00:44 Vexual whats happening in the ukraine? i don't trust twitter
00:45 BingoBoingo B007: I challenge you to make more sense than vexual
00:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11163997 = 0.3349 BTC [+]
00:45 Vexual umpossible
00:46 benkay hey guys thumbs up or thumbs down on gently simmering the covered stock overnight
00:46 benkay i'm failing to estimate evaporation rates on my own
00:46 benkay on one hand covered
00:46 benkay otoh cover has hole and hot
00:47 mircea_popescu Vexual they're becoming independent.
00:47 mircea_popescu benkay nothing can safely burn overnight.
00:47 mircea_popescu if you had a wood fire it'd be safe cause wood runs out.
00:48 benkay it's not burning per se just a big ol' piece of steel with electrons pumped through.
00:48 mircea_popescu even so.
00:48 BingoBoingo benkay: Can you set 140 F as a temperature?
00:49 mircea_popescu ;;google 140 F in K
00:49 benkay i zapped my pidbox :(
00:49 gribble Rafale Xtremjet Skymaster Kingtech K-140F - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiX3dVLU9go>; RC F-15 Turbine Jet Maiden Flight "Kingtech K-140" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2moHwVW8NM>; K-140 (Kansas highway) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-140_(Kansas_highway)>
00:49 mircea_popescu useful.
00:49 benkay f yeah that's useful there's a jet in the results
00:49 benkay a TOY JET!
00:49 mircea_popescu anyway, low temp like 333k may work i guess.
00:50 Vexual get a crock pot if youre all elecrtons benkay
00:51 mircea_popescu http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-patent-prevents-students-from-sharing-books-120610/
00:51 benkay that would be the answer to this wouldn't it Vexual
00:51 benkay shit i just got told by Vexual
00:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this shit is SOP at american unis
00:52 mircea_popescu such lol.
00:53 Vexual patenting anti piracy wont get paid
00:53 mircea_popescu all the kids bought books afair, mostly because it was cheaper to buy the book than to photocopy
00:53 mircea_popescu ~10 or so bux a 500 page book vs 30-40 for photocopying 1k pages.
00:53 mircea_popescu any system in which the printed books cost more than the xerocopies doesn't deserve to exist.
00:54 asciilifeform you can get usable copy via cheap camera, even phone camera, using a stand - a la 'spy minox'
00:54 MisterE how do you "bookmark" a page on git?
00:54 MisterE follow?
00:54 Vexual or get a tuned in printing press that will print onto shitty paper
00:54 benkay bahaha nope.
00:54 MisterE watch?
00:54 benkay i kind of think fuck social vcs, but i dasn't really take that stance in america
00:55 Vexual be the textbook
00:55 mircea_popescu what are social vcs ?
00:55 benkay http://www.skymasterjet.com/image1/t4t.jpg
00:55 Vexual i was somewhere else for special relativity
00:56 mircea_popescu nice girl ?
00:56 Vexual fuck if im explaining that for $80/hr
00:57 asciilifeform was in a uni bookstore not long ago. there are books costing 150-200 usd
00:58 mircea_popescu i think a bitbel prize for computing may be in order for whoever predicts a vexual next line.
00:58 asciilifeform they also have a tradition of re-issuing the same text year after year, with renumbered exercises
00:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11163761 BTC [-]
00:58 asciilifeform so students can't use last year's book.
00:58 mircea_popescu ok thats just fucking idiotic.
00:58 B007 I did't buy any books this semester
00:59 mircea_popescu someone pays money to be in the class of people doing this ? why the fuck already.
00:59 asciilifeform one fellow around here published cross-references that made an old set of exercises usable, he was expelled, if i recall.
00:59 B007 lol
00:59 benkay they're widely available on the internet.
00:59 mircea_popescu beyond scandalous.
01:00 benkay anyways hey guys checkout these sweet mini jets: http://www.bvmjets.com/Pages/XtremeJets/F16%206.75.htm
01:00 benkay looks like effective combat mini drones are available at about 2k
01:00 benkay to civilians no less!
01:00 asciilifeform benkay: flight time = ?
01:01 benkay i have yet to identify the powerplant, yet, but many pages mention fuel tanks
01:01 benkay oh horrible
01:01 benkay but at least the cost of the microdrones necessary to liberate cascadia's well priced now
01:01 benkay ;)
01:01 benkay ah, 3k
01:01 mircea_popescu "I met Richard Stallman (RMS) once. Actually sat down to dinner with him at the same table but I didn’t realize who he was. He was poorly dressed, unkempt, needed a shower, and his conversation was both confused and confusing. I later learned that he was always that way. When he got up as the speaker for that afternoon, I said to myself, “Huh? Who is this guy that he’s being allowed to speak dressed like that?”
01:01 mircea_popescu After about five minutes, it finally dawned on me that this was the guy behind the GNU/GPL movement but he spoke like an insane, raving mad man. After about half an hour of listening, I came to the conclusion that he fits the stereotype of “prophet” – like those found in the Bible – only he’s got the software angle.
01:01 mircea_popescu Ignore that lunatic. He’s completely nuts."
01:02 mircea_popescu benkay i wish those guys ipo'd in btc ;/
01:02 benkay who ipo which what?
01:02 mircea_popescu the xtremejets ppl.
01:02 benkay the jets dudes?
01:02 asciilifeform when i read these folks, i wonder if they'd care for stallman if he were washed & dressed
01:03 asciilifeform or if they'll just take the cheapest shot available
01:03 benkay what is the damn power plant!
01:03 BingoBoingo I predict Vexual next says Bullshit because he loves the shit of Bulls over the shit of cows
01:03 Vexual i call spaniards spaniards
01:03 mircea_popescu yrah the jet dudes
01:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i think he is lucky that he's unkempt, otherwise i'd be reading all over the internet how he's a pedophile pornographer gypsy guy.
01:04 benkay oh man they're doing cool stuff too mircea_popescu http://www.bvmjets.com/tips/sabre_jet_news.htm
01:04 mircea_popescu i just want a model jet companee ;/
01:04 benkay haha
01:04 asciilifeform diy war machine ought to be regarded as disposable. so solid rocket engine would make the most practical sense.
01:04 benkay i gotta guy to introduce you to
01:05 asciilifeform before long, you have a 'strela.'
01:05 benkay asciilifeform: i'm down with that trajectory of development.
01:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform most flights would be interdiction.
01:05 mircea_popescu nondisposable have their utility.
01:06 Vexual yes
01:06 benkay yeah keep 20 or 30 of the nice ones around
01:06 BingoBoingo Yeah, If I made a DIY airforce I dunno if I would want a non-drone craft more complicated than an F-16
01:06 benkay try not to break 'em too often
01:06 Vexual turbo polystyrene is the best model jet
01:06 mircea_popescu benkay what's the total kinetic mommentum you expect could be packed in something like http://www.bvmjets.com/images/XtremeJets/F16/missiles.jpg ?
01:07 mircea_popescu straight-fired.
01:07 Vexual the hobby that keeps you outta guitmo
01:07 benkay you want 2 vehicle classes, at a broad sweep: disposables to take stuff out (poor man's guided missle) and fancy ones (comms, coordination, w/e)
01:07 BingoBoingo I dunno I think a quilted flourocarbon winged biplane could be nice
01:07 mircea_popescu benkay "interdiction, picking up chicks"
01:08 benkay interdiction
01:08 BingoBoingo benkay: Flip the uses. Disposables for command and fancy for destruction
01:08 benkay interdicktion
01:08 Vexual who lives on a coast? im working on a robot boat
01:08 benkay BingoBoingo: surewhynot
01:08 benkay they're cheap enough that one might be able to test different strategies
01:09 benkay i actually think coordination of the cheap ones is an emergent thing
01:09 benkay "go over there and ruin anything moving till you run out of juice"
01:09 benkay or smash yourselves into it w/e
01:09 Mats_cd03 anyone here live in chicago
01:10 BingoBoingo Mats_cd03: No civilized person lives in that wasteland
01:10 benkay mircea_popescu: robots on everything with thrust vectoring
01:10 Mats_cd03 im about to move there for a job
01:10 asciilifeform swarms.
01:10 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 actually some people do yea
01:11 asciilifeform pocket-sized flyers, forming phased-array antennae
01:11 BingoBoingo benkay: I know two classmates who became fighterpilots. At least one wants to become a cargo pilot because the planes are more comfy.
01:11 benkay ^^
01:11 benkay asciilifeform gets it
01:11 benkay fuck actual humans in planes BingoBoingo their time has come and gone
01:11 Vexual radar at the edge of space?
01:11 benkay war is for robots now
01:11 asciilifeform let's see with what they will shoot a swarm.
01:11 mircea_popescu sex too.
01:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11163761 = 0.2233 BTC [-]
01:12 BingoBoingo benkay: Human pilots will continue to be a thing as long as Prisoners of war take resources to hold
01:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform emp, large nets, spray paint...
01:12 asciilifeform all great. except that you only need one 'bee' up the tailpipe.
01:12 BingoBoingo If we want EMP warfare, why power at all and not aliminium filings?
01:13 asciilifeform pill against emp is to use line-of-sight optical links between the 'bees'
01:13 asciilifeform instead of radio
01:13 asciilifeform sealed conductive chassis (nobody cancelled Greene's theorem)
01:13 BingoBoingo (aliminium over aluminium because lithium and aluminum in alloy melts real nice. as per Kosovo)
01:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the amount of aiming the light beam requires makes your ships still vulnerable to emp
01:14 asciilifeform better still, trimethyl aluminum.
01:14 mircea_popescu cause computors.
01:14 asciilifeform greene's theorem.
01:14 mircea_popescu even so.
01:14 mircea_popescu ungrounded cage will still generate field.
01:14 asciilifeform conductor in a metal shell, zero induced electric field inside
01:14 asciilifeform regardless of flux
01:14 asciilifeform on the outside.
01:15 mircea_popescu isn'tthat only true of spherical shell ?
01:15 asciilifeform nope
01:15 mircea_popescu hm.
01:15 asciilifeform although the schoolbook typically starts with a spherical shell as example
01:15 mircea_popescu this seems counterintuitive to me.
01:16 mircea_popescu so if i have a shell in the shape of two connected spheres, of different sizes, i can't put an instrument inside that will tell me whether the small or the big sphere is closer to the nuclear blast ?
01:16 Vexual subs talk through oceans and the earth with very long waves
01:17 asciilifeform Vexual: towed antenna.
01:17 Vexual cant emp that shit
01:20 asciilifeform ex: http://www.theprepperjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/FaradayBox-HowTo.png
01:21 asciilifeform (one can laugh at the implementation, but not the physics.)
01:22 asciilifeform incidentally, emp weapon other than traditional nuke is more or less a joke
01:22 asciilifeform during 'desert storm' u.s. popped an emp bomb above an iraqi radio station
01:22 Vexual really?
01:22 asciilifeform knocking it out for several hours (they had to change an amp)
01:23 Vexual active emp?
01:23 asciilifeform if they had used a classical bomb of the same weight, they could have levelled it.
01:23 Vexual nukes dont joke
01:23 asciilifeform explosively-pumped vircator.
01:23 B007 link to a story about the emp?
01:23 Vexual get a ham license b007
01:24 asciilifeform B007: dig it up yourself
01:24 asciilifeform source was a russian report
01:24 asciilifeform u.s. claimed that they zapped the entire iraqi power grid with emp, a transparently laughable tale
01:25 BingoBoingo Rousey is a fucking cut of the first degree
01:25 asciilifeform the reason why it is so easy to produce massive emp with nuke is, charged particles zinging around in van allen belt.
01:26 asciilifeform turn the planet's magnetosphere into a dynamo.
01:26 KRS-One heh cool
01:26 Vexual nukes arent cool
01:26 asciilifeform the notion of a useful non-nuclear emp weapon is transparent grantsmanship
01:27 asciilifeform why? do a gedankenexperiment
01:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0624997 = 0.625 BTC [-] {2}
01:27 asciilifeform take a traditional bomb, of any practical size you prefer
01:27 asciilifeform and picture 100% of the chemical energy converted into a radio emission of whichever type you prefer.
01:28 asciilifeform (actual vircator or other known mechanisms gives nothing close to 100%)
01:28 asciilifeform regardless of how this emanation is aimed, nobody cancelled inverse-square law.
01:28 BingoBoingo To the best of my knowledge unuseful non-nuclear emp weapons are a thing, but vastly surpassed by non-nuclear, non-emp weapons that simply scatter conductive fibers.
01:29 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIJmciN8mo
01:29 ozbot Nicki Minaj - Starships (Explicit) - YouTube
01:29 asciilifeform the one and only such item of some actual military use is a (current) russian anti-tank shell that detonates at an approach of ~1m
01:29 asciilifeform fired in a two-parter - emp shell to blind sensors, classical shell follows behind.
01:29 asciilifeform but, much as any general would love 'death ray', there is no death ray.
01:30 BingoBoingo The US still has airborne cluster munitions that are deigned for used against power substations which by design litter the area with aliminum and carboin fillaments.
01:31 chatquack trippy!
01:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if this ever becomes popular, conductors will be insulated.
01:31 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: This was first used against Serbia during the operations to "free" "Kosovo"
01:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 308 @ 0.00039999 = 0.1232 BTC [-] {2}
01:32 BingoBoingo At the time popular press was informed these were EMP weapons.
01:32 chatquack 3 man watter ballon launcher + metal chain
01:32 chatquack water**
01:32 asciilifeform the cheapest weapon is the fictional one.
01:32 BingoBoingo Later declassification revealed there were merely littering weapons
01:33 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-114/B_%22Soft-Bomb%22
01:33 ozbot BLU-114/B "Soft-Bomb" - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:35 asciilifeform u.s. national sport, zapping defenceless savages from a safe distance.
01:36 asciilifeform but a more beloved, more lucrative national sport - graft.
01:36 chatquack fun read BingoBoingo
01:37 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrqA93sW-8
01:37 ozbot Nicki Minaj - Pound The Alarm (Explicit) - YouTube
01:37 chatquack FTA: The filaments are only a few hundredths of an inch thick and can float in the air like a dense cloud.
01:37 chatquack Neat!
01:37 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Ever since Abe I don't think any 'Murican would dispute graft as the greatest 'Murican sport
01:38 KRS-One Vexual: remember what kakobrekla said about pasting links..
01:40 Vexual that one doesnt cont
01:45 KRS-One Why?
01:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.11272731 = 3.9455 BTC [+] {6}
01:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform remarkably clever the trashbin faraday cage.
01:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.11299984 = 3.39 BTC [+] {5}
01:48 mircea_popescu chatquack and who might you be ?
01:48 chatquack Hmmm... Deep question...
01:49 mircea_popescu just give the elevator speech.
01:49 mircea_popescu and meanwhile : http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/wpid-12211283714_59aa5e38c1_o.jpg?w=560
01:50 * chatquack is a lover of things.
01:51 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-atNakMWw << goat finally built his exchange.
01:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 818 @ 0.00015002 = 0.1227 BTC [-] {5}
01:57 B007 http://winkdex.com
01:59 chatquack http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elevator_pitch *giggles* I've never heard of that before.
01:59 ozbot Elevator pitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11299999 = 0.565 BTC [+] {3}
02:01 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Would be a shame if a stiff milking gave goat the MRSA
02:01 chatquack Anywho. I got intrested in bitcoin last ~april and have been consumed by it (along with any crypto). I'm a computer junky who got sick and tired of working on computers. Much better as a hobby for me right now. I found a recent love for auto detailing and I am a coinchat exile. =D
02:02 mircea_popescu so welcome
02:02 chatquack I also love beer.
02:02 chatquack Thanks!
02:02 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v8I5egzoMo
02:02 ozbot Car Wash Song - YouTube
02:02 mircea_popescu wait, you're not bitcoinpete are you ?
02:02 chatquack no sir
02:02 mircea_popescu that makes two of you car freaks
02:02 chatquack Oh ya?
02:02 BingoBoingo I can vouch that chatquack and bitcoinpete are different.
02:03 mircea_popescu maybe we end up with the bitcoin-assets hotrods club
02:03 chatquack Does someone in here love optimum no rinse?
02:03 Vexual im saving up for a model a
02:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00083418 = 4.0458 BTC [-]
02:03 chatquack (name drop) also, I've bs'd with BingoBoingo for a few months now.
02:04 Vexual for those of you that don't know the jive, thats two carburettors and an overdrive
02:04 BingoBoingo I'm finally coing to chop my emssions system to bits with a sawzall next week and hope it wasn't the EGR valve
02:04 chatquack ~working at the car wash ya~
02:04 * chatquack turns it up.
02:05 mircea_popescu they still use carburetors ?!
02:05 Vexual in '38 they did
02:05 mircea_popescu right.
02:05 B007 i wish i had a car....fuck
02:06 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVX-qfUi6w
02:06 ozbot HD_Hot Rod Race_Jimmy Dolan_Lyrics 1951 - YouTube
02:06 mircea_popescu B007 some people do but mostly the car is not for fuck.
02:06 Vexual carburettor is emp resistant
02:07 chatquack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dTG7xDFPzo
02:07 ozbot Futurama carwash song - YouTube
02:07 * chatquack jams out
02:08 B007 mircea_popescu: now that is funny
02:09 chatquack Vexual, wouldn't the ignition coil still be a prob?
02:09 mircea_popescu http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4386&cpage=1#comment-381481
02:09 ozbot Why I think RMS is a fanatic, and why that matters.
02:09 mircea_popescu check out extra-pissed off eric raymond
02:09 chatquack Unless you were running mechanacily injected diesel.
02:10 chatquack The recharging system would be fried too.
02:10 Vexual i didnt say proof
02:10 * chatquack runs to the hills and dons his tinfoil hat.
02:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0044 = 0.132 BTC [-]
02:11 Vexual but your pump will pump
02:11 chatquack it should right?
02:12 Vexual yep way past the point the block is hot enough to cook you from the back seat
02:12 chatquack If your ignition coil on a gas engine goes out, you'd lose spark though I think.
02:13 Vexual it might splutter while its happening
02:13 chatquack diesel is good to go without spark, thanks to compression. (I think)
02:13 chatquack Oh oh.. If the chamber is still hot enough to combust gas?
02:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00435001 = 0.1479 BTC [-] {2}
02:14 BingoBoingo Diesel still needs glow (hot) plugs
02:14 chatquack Not once the chambers are hot.
02:14 chatquack You can run diesel off of compression alone.
02:14 BingoBoingo Yoiu still need some heat chatquack
02:14 chatquack I don't know if it's the same for gas.
02:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.48022083 = 2.4011 BTC [-] {4}
02:15 chatquack Ah yes... Starting it cold would be a prob.
02:15 chatquack But if an emp hit while it was running, an older diesel engine would continue running.
02:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.11731818 = 2.581 BTC [+] {3}
02:16 chatquack A mechanical injector pump is a nifty machine.
02:16 BingoBoingo Most older gasoline engines would continue running as well.
02:17 BingoBoingo EMP's negative effects generally appear in relation to the length of the recieving wire.
02:17 chatquack I think even the older gas ones would still rely on their ignition coil to build power to feed the spark plugs.
02:17 chatquack And an ignition coil is a big nast coil. It would probably fuse and short from a local emp.
02:18 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AogtividIuk
02:18 ozbot Franz Ferdinand - Jacqueline - YouTube
02:18 chatquack nast = nasty
02:19 chatquack That's a worrysum photo.
02:19 chatquack worrysome?**
02:19 BingoBoingo It's always better on holliday
02:19 BingoBoingo So much better on holliday
02:20 Vexual fucking webjet
02:20 * chatquack bops around
02:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00083988 = 5.5012 BTC [+]
02:22 chatquack ~That's why we only work when, we neeeeeed the money~
02:22 BingoBoingo McMann is fired.
02:22 chatquack Send him the bill.
02:23 BingoBoingo chatquack: Her
02:23 chatquack o.O
02:25 BingoBoingo Oh look, Jebus made bail https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/437467209829318657
02:26 mircea_popescu @cukeking @CharlieShrem How exciting. Where will the bitcoin innovation end?
02:26 mircea_popescu i love it when people are their own parodies.
02:27 KRS-One .bait
02:27 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m22kdnBuyK1rtoc5eo1_500.jpg
02:27 BingoBoingo I promise, I will always be the best parody of myself.
02:28 mircea_popescu http://bitcoins.sh/5 :D
02:28 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
02:28 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijk4j-r7qPA
02:28 ozbot Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out - YouTube
02:31 BingoBoingo Huh, my IRL domain's hosting just lapsed.
02:31 BingoBoingo And I really dun care.
02:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0627 = 2.508 BTC [+]
02:32 mircea_popescu on yer blog ?!
02:32 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The firstnamelastname.net blog yeah.
02:33 BingoBoingo Apparently it actually happened a few weeks ago, but fuck it.
02:34 * chatquack chuckles at http://bitcoins.sh/5
02:35 BingoBoingo I care little though, firstnamelastname@firstnamelastname.net has no WOT. BingoBoingo has some WOT though.
02:36 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wznMbAkyBHQ
02:36 ozbot Franz Ferdinand - Darts Of Pleasure - YouTube
02:37 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=penvn9VL32Y
02:37 ozbot Modest Mouse - Dashboard - YouTube
02:41 chatquack http://bitcoins.sh/poop *chuckles*
02:41 ozbot Poo Hammer — YOURLS
02:41 chatquack Wow, ozbot... You are on top of things.
02:42 KRS-One He's awesome
02:42 KRS-One .bait
02:42 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2f9d1l0mW1qkegsbo1_1280.jpg
02:43 KRS-One see
02:43 BingoBoingo I had to think a while
02:43 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPhnOKmhbBw
02:43 ozbot Modest Mouse - Ocean Breathes Salty - YouTube
02:43 chatquack oh man...
02:43 BingoBoingo Your sould
02:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.115 = 1.035 BTC [-]
02:45 chatquack I don't think I've seen this mm video.
02:46 chatquack ~I had to think a while~
02:46 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pnlYYHO1g#aid=P-Ux0v3EWow
02:46 ozbot Modest Mouse - The Whale Song - YouTube
02:46 chatquack This...
02:47 chatquack fuck man. I'm going to play this one for my neighbors.
02:48 chatquack ~I guess I'm a scout, so I should find a way out, so everyone can find a way out~
02:48 chatquack Brings tears.
02:48 chatquack We're all stuck on this crazy marble.
02:49 BingoBoingo chatquack: I know your weakness
02:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11683333 = 0.3505 BTC [+] {2}
02:49 BingoBoingo SO everyone can find a way out
02:49 * chatquack rocks back'n forth
02:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [+]
02:51 chatquack ~I know I was a scout, I should've found a way out. So everyone could find a way out!!!~
02:52 chatquack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CH1Tu9-oSU&feature=kp
02:52 ozbot 14. Talkin' Shit About a Pretty Sunset - YouTube
02:52 chatquack ooooooooooooooooooo nooose
02:53 chatquack tied myself in, tied myself too tight
02:53 BingoBoingo tskt-ka tsk-ka
02:53 BingoBoingo Well he just drove off sometime slife's ok
02:54 chatquack ha, my first album
02:55 * chatquack does the cockroach
02:56 chatquack I think I'm having an alcholic moment.
02:56 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7KDOAj4Xo
02:56 ozbot Modest Mouse - King Rat - YouTube
02:57 chatquack I'm going to have to let talin' shit finish first.
02:57 BingoBoingo Well, niggers.txt
02:57 chatquack ohgoddamnnit
02:58 chatquack Weeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllll
02:59 * chatquack plays the air violin
02:59 BingoBoingo Deep water, Deep water senseless deny
03:00 BingoBoingo I went down like a rag doll
03:00 chatquack *bops around more*
03:00 chatquack *air horn*
03:00 BingoBoingo lol
03:01 chatquack I've never seen such a divese croud then at a Modest Mouse show.
03:01 mircea_popescu lol wasn't that nubbins' favourite band ?
03:02 chatquack Senseless denial**
03:02 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe?
03:02 BingoBoingo Prolly
03:02 * chatquack goes to renew his lease
03:02 BingoBoingo Imma go take a walk.
03:03 BingoBoingo If it takes more than two hours I fail by Bitcoin fitness test.
03:04 chatquack oh boy
03:05 * chatquack puts on http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/The+Lonesome+Crowded+West/145992
03:05 * chatquack then begins to wonder what the 145992 is all about.
03:08 mircea_popescu bloctoc all done now thanks. you can go back to #eulora :p
03:09 bloctoc thanks mp, maybe I'll head over and make it look crowded.
03:11 bloctoc how much can my artistic sister make building useless things in eulora? any benchmarks yet?
03:11 chetty no useless stuff
03:12 bloctoc I don't wish to belabor the point, but I recall a conversation long ago about flying horses.
03:13 bloctoc never mind I'd find a flying horse to be useful.
03:13 chetty flying houses? now thats an idea
03:14 bloctoc I already thought of flying houses
03:17 bloctoc the logistics would never work because of wall sockets.
03:17 bloctoc and plumbing
03:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.003066 = 0.1686 BTC [+]
03:20 mircea_popescu bloctoc no specific benchmarks yet, but there will be
03:20 mircea_popescu and maybe we can have wifi water ? like wafi.
03:21 chatquack H2O.11g
03:21 bloctoc rain just got rebranded
03:21 bloctoc rain 2.0 wireless
03:21 chatquack H2O.0?
03:22 chatquack *drops the mic* (and gets another drink) *beer
03:22 mircea_popescu lol I DISRUPTED RAIN
03:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 119 @ 0.00462327 = 0.5502 BTC [+] {9}
03:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.117 = 0.819 BTC [+]
03:24 mircea_popescu "If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what's at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodati
03:24 mircea_popescu on."
03:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [+]
03:25 mircea_popescu "Many Americans today, just as they did 200 years ago, feel burdened, stifled, and sometimes even oppressed by government that has grown too large, too bureaucratic, too wasteful, too unresponsive, too uncaring about people and their problems. I believe we can embark on a new age of reform in this country and an era of national renewal, an era that will reorder the relationship between citizen and government."
03:25 mircea_popescu dude i could quote reagan for the rest of the day.
03:25 mircea_popescu he needs to be read more.
03:29 * chatquack gets ready to "do the cockroach".
03:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00015918 = 0.1592 BTC [+] {7}
03:31 chatquack ~I was in heaven, I was in hell. Believe in neither, but fear them as well; This one's a doctor, this one's a lawyer, THIS ONE'S A CASH FIEND TAKING YOUR MONEY!~
03:33 B007 r & r -- Ronald Reagon
03:36 chatquack Ronald Raygun?
03:36 chatquack pew pew
03:36 chatquack ;;lasers
03:36 gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
03:36 * KRS-One ducks
03:37 KRS-One .bait
03:37 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me08u7vPsQ1reae9uo1_500.jpg
03:37 chatquack What are thoes tubes?
03:37 chatquack Dry'r ducting?
03:38 chatquack bbbl love u
03:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00083509 = 13.9878 BTC [-] {2}
03:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.0201705 = 0.4034 BTC [-] {9}
03:48 BingoBoingo Back
03:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 922 @ 0.003066 = 2.8269 BTC [+]
03:51 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl9vGHVT_Xs
03:51 ozbot Truckers Atlas - Modest Mouse - YouTube
03:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003068 = 0.1718 BTC [+]
03:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00479957 = 0.48 BTC [+] {4}
03:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49797989 BTC [+]
03:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00487441 = 0.4874 BTC [+] {4}
~ 34 minutes ~
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.003068 = 0.1964 BTC [+]
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49699959 BTC [-]
04:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.00489999 = 0.4508 BTC [+] {2}
~ 20 minutes ~
04:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00084022 = 4.5372 BTC [+]
~ 18 minutes ~
05:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11200033 BTC [-]
05:10 chatquack ~the origans of the mud shar are as follows...~
05:11 chatquack ~There's a motel in Seattle, Washington, called the Edgewater Inn . . . The Edgewater Inn is built out on a pier . . . so that means that when you look out your window you don't see any dirt, it's . . . got a bay or something out in your backyard . . .~
05:11 chatquack muuuudddddshhhhaaarrrk
05:12 chatquack my mind drifts back...
05:14 chatquack ~ . . . to a meeting, a chance meeting in the Chicago O'Hare Airport . . .~
05:14 chatquack ~Where the members of The Vanilla Fudge told Don Preston about a home movie they made at the Edgewater Inn . . . with a mud shark!~
05:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.062 = 0.124 BTC [-]
05:15 mircea_popescu http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Was-Forced-To-Have-Sex/1776436
05:15 mircea_popescu this is pretty epic. 3rd world problems.
05:16 chatquack FTA: I told him that my “ boyfriend “ took huge amout of money almost everytime for different reasons……mom’s operation, someone’s cancer…….lots of reasons.
05:16 chatquack sounds like a pimp
05:16 chatquack in all the wrong ways
05:17 chatquack ~What kind of girl do you think we are?~
05:18 B007 "he could gift me lots of deseases"
05:20 mircea_popescu it sounds very africa-ish to me.
05:20 mircea_popescu seriously, those people never heard of a wake-up service ?
05:20 davout wtf is up with the price
05:20 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
05:20 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 638.92, Best ask: 639.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.83000, Last trade: 638.91, 24 hour volume: 24427.22237949, 24 hour low: 569.1, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 607.335388949
05:20 mircea_popescu what ?
05:20 davout !t m x.eur
05:20 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.002 / 0.002 / 0.002 (450 shares, 0.90 BTC), 7D: 0.002 / 0.0021717 / 0.00226762 (2908 shares, 6.32 BTC), 30D: 0.00166114 / 0.001845 / 0.00226762 (16570 shares, 30.57 BTC)
05:21 davout i go to bed 420 eur/btc
05:21 davout i get up 500
05:21 B007 r u rich now?
05:21 mircea_popescu i r guess he muyst be
05:22 davout B007: i was rich before you knew how to spell "bitcoin"
05:22 chatquack oh snap
05:22 B007 unlikely
05:22 mircea_popescu so prices move while you sleep. welcome to the insomniac side.
05:22 davout is there some mtgox-related news or whatever
05:23 davout looks like not heh
05:23 mircea_popescu not particularly. they're going to come back monday they say.
05:23 mircea_popescu may be that they've found a sucker, but that story'll end if i find him too.
05:23 davout lol
05:24 mircea_popescu mtgox living on the edge dun dun dun
05:24 chatquack fastest btc/usd rise e v a h
05:24 mircea_popescu suckerseek, a bitcoin service.
05:24 davout chatquack: not rly
05:24 KRS-One lol
05:24 chatquack m a y be ? ? ?
05:24 KRS-One no
05:24 KRS-One not close
05:24 chatquack probably not thought, trust has been lost
05:24 davout mircea_popescu: you forgot the "powered by btcjam"
05:26 chatquack ~mud shark~
05:26 chatquack ~oh you can hear the steam baby...~
05:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003049 = 0.1707 BTC [-]
05:27 chatquack ~steam roller~
05:28 chatquack ~hemroids, talk'n about your hemroids, baby~
05:28 chatquack http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/frankzappa/latexsolarbeef.html
05:28 ozbot FRANK ZAPPA LYRICS - Latex Solar Beef
05:29 chatquack ~All groupies must bow down, in the sacrad presense of the latax solar beef~
05:30 chatquack sacred**
05:30 chatquack *que willie the pimp*
05:32 davout chatquack: playing now
05:34 chatquack ~real futuristic, I dig the fins.~
05:35 chatquack Life Wastes AndyHardy
05:39 chatquack ~Ooooh! Anything for you, my most seductive, seclusive... pop star of a man... picture this if you can: b jobs! knotted nylons! bamboo canes! three unreleased recordings of Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young fighting in the dressing-room of the Fillmore East! Why, one enchilada wrapped with pickle sauce shoved up and down in between a donkey's legs until he can't it stand anymore! All this
05:39 chatquack and more, Howie! Including! an electric cooled pony harness, with fuel injection... fuel injection... fuel injection...~
05:39 KRS-One Crosby, Stills, Nash: southern cross
05:40 KRS-One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3kImL2gDkI
05:40 ozbot Southern Cross with lyrics - Crosby, Stills, and Nash - YouTube
05:40 chatquack ~Well, I know when I'm licked... All over~
05:41 mircea_popescu davout :p
05:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.11200023 = 1.12 BTC [-] {3}
05:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.003055 = 0.1833 BTC [+]
05:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
05:51 chatquack so RENT many curency
05:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.1135 = 1.7025 BTC [+] {3}
05:52 Guest24301 do we have a new bot in here?
05:52 chatquack so test zoom drunkenness'
05:52 chatquack text**
05:53 * chatquack turns it over to Guest24301
05:53 chatquack kernips, for moisture.
05:55 chatquack ~trembling like a penguin, when the battey fails.
05:58 chatquack g'night/morn'n -assets
05:59 chatquack I will now leave you goodby.
~ 17 minutes ~
06:16 KRS-One i need some bait
06:16 KRS-One .bait
06:16 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdjapnDFMq1qg7xwvo1_500.png
06:16 KRS-One rawr
06:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11759899 BTC [+]
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00085119 = 3.6176 BTC [+]
06:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 628 @ 0.00015934 = 0.1001 BTC [+] {5}
06:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00306792 = 0.1657 BTC [+] {2}
06:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 217 @ 0.003068 = 0.6658 BTC [+] {2}
~ 40 minutes ~
07:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.003068 = 0.3221 BTC [+] {3}
07:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 256 @ 0.00308999 = 0.791 BTC [+] {2}
07:40 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 651 @ 0.002 = 1.302 BTC [-]
07:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 534 @ 0.00082093 = 0.4384 BTC [-] {6}
07:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00309 = 0.754 BTC [+]
07:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00310979 = 0.3141 BTC [+] {2}
07:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00312 = 0.1248 BTC [+]
07:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 940 @ 0.00313296 = 2.945 BTC [+] {3}
07:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.003133 = 0.1347 BTC [+]
08:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00085493 = 4.6594 BTC [+]
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 255 @ 0.003133 = 0.7989 BTC [+]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11199999 BTC [-]
08:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11199999 = 0.224 BTC [-]
08:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 243 @ 0.0031 = 0.7533 BTC [-]
~ 15 minutes ~
08:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.00313 = 0.3631 BTC [+] {2}
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 324 @ 0.00313143 = 1.0146 BTC [+] {2}
08:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2074 @ 0.003133 = 6.4978 BTC [+]
08:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.003138 = 0.4581 BTC [+] {2}
08:39 mircea_popescu http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.ro/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html btw
08:39 ozbot The Invisible Things Lab's blog: The Linux Security Circus: On GUI isolation
08:46 ThickAsThieves newstand in cyprus http://i.imgur.com/27Tbity.jpg
08:46 ThickAsThieves vagina!
08:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.48032503 = 3.8426 BTC [-] {3}
08:47 ThickAsThieves new webisite is up, needs some small tweaks, but much better than prior http://www.neo-bee.com/en/
08:50 ThickAsThieves opening is tomorrow
08:50 KRS-One nice
08:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1143 @ 0.00315698 = 3.6084 BTC [+] {7}
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 579 @ 0.00318999 = 1.847 BTC [+] {2}
08:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 589 @ 0.00319 = 1.8789 BTC [+] {2}
08:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11199995 = 0.56 BTC [-] {2}
08:57 pankkake as far as I know, Windows has the same issue, and a lot of software has to work around it - especially since servers also have GUIs
08:59 pankkake http://www.neo-bee.com/en/services/use-bitcoins/ so easy stores, nice
08:59 ozbot Neo :: Accepting Bitcoins
09:02 caustiq just picked up 3btc worth of neo&bee after watching it for awhile
09:02 caustiq hope they spread virally throughout EU
09:02 caustiq topple the banking cabal
09:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1027 BTC [+]
09:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 617 @ 0.00319 = 1.9682 BTC [+]
09:06 mircea_popescu pankkake afaik win7 tried some locking
09:06 mircea_popescu not that it did anything
09:07 goxtakeover Hi. We have started an initiative to rescue MtGox. If you interested, visit www.mtgoxtakeover.com
09:07 pankkake I was told you can run windows servers without guis now
09:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 398 @ 0.00319499 = 1.2716 BTC [+] {5}
09:07 pankkake I hope it involves pitchforks
09:07 mircea_popescu goxtakeover start by introducing yourself and drop the spurious "we"
09:07 pankkake oh, right, just donations
09:08 mircea_popescu weaboos are not "we".
09:10 ThickAsThieves lol goxscamover
09:10 goxtakeover <mircea_popescu> - this can be read on the website
09:11 mircea_popescu but i am not reading your website now am i
09:12 ThickAsThieves the site essentially says "send you coins" in not many more words
09:12 ThickAsThieves send us*
09:12 ThickAsThieves either way
09:13 caustiq that sounds sketchy
09:13 caustiq AF
09:13 ThickAsThieves most scams do
09:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49899997 BTC [+]
09:25 mircea_popescu i suppose i;m gonna end up having to write a post about introductions. apparently it's completely lost on peeps that it makes absolutely zero sense to just start sputtering stuff as a complete unknown.
09:26 pankkake http://i.imgur.com/hkO5nPE.jpg more goatse than vagina
09:28 KRS-One ah goatse..timeless.
09:28 ThickAsThieves hehe
09:28 mircea_popescu actually, that's like cyprus' largest circulation newspaper
09:28 mircea_popescu like 20k or something
09:28 ThickAsThieves it's in like 3 papers at least
09:29 pankkake and it's open, so not wasted coverage!
09:30 pankkake or opening tomorrow I guess
09:30 mircea_popescu what's it selling again ?
09:30 ThickAsThieves bitcoin financial services
09:31 ThickAsThieves biggest probly being the Bee network
09:31 mircea_popescu but specifically.
09:31 mircea_popescu guy reads newspaper, does what ?
09:31 ThickAsThieves a merchant would sign up to accept Bee for cheaper payment proc
09:31 ThickAsThieves a user would open an account to get a card
09:32 ThickAsThieves wallet service in one light
09:32 BingoBoingo Possibly related http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/02/23/the-heathrow-m/
09:32 ThickAsThieves will also offer euro-pegged accounts
09:33 ThickAsThieves doesnt seem to be on offer for opening
09:33 mircea_popescu so basically coinbase ?
09:33 mircea_popescu but with store card ?
09:34 ThickAsThieves but positioning itself like a bank
09:34 mircea_popescu o look at that, wikipedia has meanwhile caught on that the people still left editing there are mostly paid marketeers.
09:34 ThickAsThieves they are targeting Bank of Cyprus pretty directly
09:35 mircea_popescu aahaha til boc is ~1/3 s.mpoe
09:36 ThickAsThieves Cyprus is a small place
09:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2708 @ 0.00085192 = 2.307 BTC [-]
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1100 @ 0.00085743 = 0.9432 BTC [+] {6}
09:36 mircea_popescu yeah i never realised just how small i guess.
09:36 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
09:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.38, Best ask: 622.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.62000, Last trade: 622.0, 24 hour volume: 26392.18547313, 24 hour low: 571.19, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 610.946532288
09:36 mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.00085192 * 610.9
09:36 gribble 0.520437928
09:37 mircea_popescu in fairness it's more like 2/3 s.mpoe
09:37 mircea_popescu apparently i got beaten to shit this quarter.
09:37 ThickAsThieves don't let anyone ever say mp wasn't fair!
09:37 mircea_popescu o january 1.2 bn mkt cap, where art thou!
09:38 ThickAsThieves need to start more mmo clans
09:38 mircea_popescu there should be a forbes list for bitcoin, derping about hao mp lost most of his wealth this quarter and is nao desperate!!1
09:38 Duffer1_ i'm guessing april..ish MP ^.^
09:38 ThickAsThieves hehe
09:38 mircea_popescu cool.
09:38 pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/717/bitcoin-in-forbes-top-100-billionaires-list/
09:38 mircea_popescu i guess if i add up the various bitcoin guilds in games we get just about a circulation
09:38 ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin in Forbes' Top 100 Billionaires list
09:39 ThickAsThieves someone made a plugin for WoW
09:39 ThickAsThieves to transfer btc
09:39 pankkake so you can sell stuff ingame for btc?
09:40 ThickAsThieves yeah
09:40 mircea_popescu ayup
09:40 mircea_popescu course wow is such inflation
09:40 pankkake cool! but, does it have some kind of escrow?
09:40 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/ron-maimon-lubos-motl-and-other-internet-things-i-hear-of-today-for-the-very-first-time/#comment-98192
09:40 mircea_popescu pankkake notrly.
09:40 ThickAsThieves lame
09:41 mircea_popescu why ? wow gold is worthless anyway
09:41 mircea_popescu if op won't just send fuck them, plenty others.
09:41 pankkake aren't chinese slaves farming it? it must be worth something
09:41 mircea_popescu there's trillions of the stuff lying around.
09:41 mircea_popescu pankkake buyer's market tho.
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.062695 = 0.1881 BTC [+]
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0627 = 0.4389 BTC [+]
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.003194 = 0.297 BTC [-]
09:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0032 = 0.1056 BTC [+] {2}
09:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 360 @ 0.0032 = 1.152 BTC [+]
09:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00085493 = 4.6166 BTC [+]
09:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.0032 = 0.2944 BTC [+] {4}
10:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.10513226 = 0.4205 BTC [-] {2}
10:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00320342 = 0.2883 BTC [+] {2}
10:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06279 = 0.1884 BTC [+]
10:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00310104 = 0.6202 BTC [-] {2}
10:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.06279999 = 1.1932 BTC [+]
10:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06279999 = 0.1256 BTC [+]
10:18 BingoBoingo .bait
10:18 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/95545a37883846930df4a7e2fd963e84/tumblr_mevwwnO4931rdthk0o1_500.jpg
10:18 BingoBoingo .d
10:18 ozbot 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 885 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.8556% in 4d 23h 39m 8s
10:23 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves check out this shit https://app.sponsoredtweets.com/tweeters
10:23 mircea_popescu i bet you that if you hire any selection of them you want to tweet some muzak or w/e you will sell less units than dollars spent ?
10:25 pankkake finally, being a celebrity pays off
10:25 pankkake lol some are cheap
10:26 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1652087/plain/)
10:26 mircea_popescu !b 4
10:26 BingoBoingo I have just lost my faith in Bob Villa
10:26 mircea_popescu there's jose canseco in there which is why i linked him
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.0031184 = 0.3306 BTC [-] {2}
10:28 BingoBoingo Jose Canseco is supposed to be cheap and trashy nowadays though.
10:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 701 @ 0.00315524 = 2.2118 BTC [+] {13}
10:29 Bugpowder So who gave me op in mtgox-chat?
10:29 pankkake perhaps because of the splits?
10:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4850005 = 0.97 BTC [-] {2}
10:30 Bugpowder I just joined again and still have it?
10:30 Bugpowder I feel so powerful.
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 799 @ 0.00321636 = 2.5699 BTC [+] {5}
10:32 mircea_popescu time for an opban war
10:32 mircea_popescu "Former reality TV star and model."
10:32 mircea_popescu holy shit that's low.
10:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00305 = 0.4057 BTC [-] {4}
10:34 mircea_popescu "Famous For: Has been in the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue for 8 consecutive years!"
10:35 mircea_popescu Bio: Supermodel.
10:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00305 = 0.1007 BTC [-]
10:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.4802004 = 2.401 BTC [-] {2}
10:35 mircea_popescu i wonder what a "submodel" is then
10:35 mircea_popescu cause srsly... not even a cover ? not even a decade ago ? any 16yo can make the cover ffs.
10:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]
10:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1011 @ 0.0032193 = 3.2547 BTC [+] {6}
10:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4899966 = 1.47 BTC [+] {3}
10:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 370 @ 0.00305053 = 1.1287 BTC [-] {5}
10:41 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> there's jose canseco in there which is why i linked him /// lol this is one ugly link...ick
10:41 mircea_popescu note that i don't really know what the guy is supposed to be
10:41 mircea_popescu rapper ?
10:41 ThickAsThieves jose?
10:41 ThickAsThieves was a good slugger (baseball)
10:42 ThickAsThieves now he's a reality derp
10:42 ThickAsThieves more like former reality show derp
10:43 BingoBoingo Yeah, he was busted for steroids before that was expected of people who hit baseballs like him.
10:43 mircea_popescu oh
10:43 mircea_popescu btw, people who are for legalisation : sports dope too ?
10:43 BingoBoingo Yeah.
10:44 mircea_popescu cause it's the perfect examplke of why i'm against. if it's legal then it's mandatory, cause if you can you must.
10:44 mircea_popescu soon enough the things competing in sports look about as human as the things competing in special olympics
10:44 mircea_popescu we have two sets of special olympics : for the chemically imbalanced type 1 and for the chemically imbalanced type 2.
10:45 ThickAsThieves this doesnt make sense to me
10:45 mircea_popescu specifically ?
10:45 ThickAsThieves a drug can be illegal but not allowed in a sport
10:45 ThickAsThieves i mena legal
10:45 mircea_popescu isn't it self-defeating to be pro legalisation in society but not in sport ?
10:45 mircea_popescu it's either good or bad.
10:46 ThickAsThieves no
10:46 ThickAsThieves also makes no sense
10:46 mircea_popescu now this i gotta hear.
10:46 mircea_popescu what do you mean no ?
10:46 ThickAsThieves it's not a matter of good or bad
10:46 mircea_popescu so on what grounds can you allow people to X but not athletes ?
10:46 ThickAsThieves conflict of values must always be managed in a collective effort
10:46 mircea_popescu wat
10:46 ThickAsThieves the grounds that it's my league and fuck you
10:47 mircea_popescu so then i hardly see what argument you have against the usg.
10:47 mircea_popescu it's their league and fuck you.
10:47 ThickAsThieves league is voluntary
10:47 mircea_popescu so is us.
10:47 ThickAsThieves ont play the sport if you wanna do that drug
10:47 mircea_popescu you dun like it split.
10:47 ThickAsThieves correct
10:47 mircea_popescu so then you basically got nothing.
10:48 ThickAsThieves both can be true is all
10:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00305 = 0.1312 BTC [-] {2}
10:48 ThickAsThieves drugs legal in law but not in clubs
10:48 mircea_popescu but if you support them being illegal in clubs, you really have no grounds to oppose them being generally illegal.
10:48 mircea_popescu same exact arguments will be brought.
10:49 mircea_popescu "o, club trying to forbid drugs is only causing clashes at the gate"
10:49 ThickAsThieves lol you apply this type of logic to all things?
10:49 mircea_popescu yup
10:49 mircea_popescu it's what logic is for.
10:49 ThickAsThieves nah
10:49 mircea_popescu who invented "types" of logic anyway
10:49 ThickAsThieves i cna smoke a cigarette in my own terms, but when i have to mix the values of others i must compromise
10:49 mircea_popescu what values bs.
10:49 ThickAsThieves well there are two types of logic
10:49 mircea_popescu we're not discussing values here.
10:50 ThickAsThieves 1 that is actually logic, and one that pretends
10:50 mircea_popescu lol k.
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0032 = 3.2 BTC [+]
10:50 mircea_popescu so there's logic and then there's derpage. we agree.
10:50 chetty clubs in the sports sense are 'public accommodations' , so what they gonna do, exclude blacks and gays too?
10:50 mircea_popescu chetty no, only X, not Y. because type of logic.
10:51 chetty that logic makes my head hurt
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2066 @ 0.00321837 = 6.6492 BTC [+] {5}
10:51 BingoBoingo The sports dope arms race has a lulzy endgame though. Castrations because natural hormones aren't as good as the sports dope versions. Eventually an equilibrium occurs where either the people competing at the highest level have testacles or not.
10:51 mircea_popescu anyway, i'm done for today! catch y
10:51 mircea_popescu all tomorrow
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]
10:52 ThickAsThieves there could also be safety arguments in sports
10:52 ThickAsThieves to not allow drug use
10:52 ThickAsThieves endangering your teammates etc
10:53 BingoBoingo Probably depends on the sport and the drug.
10:53 ThickAsThieves i dont see why drugs cant be legal in home but diaallowed in organizations that choose too
10:53 ThickAsThieves it's not like drugs are a basic human right or some shit
10:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 546 @ 0.00323988 = 1.769 BTC [+] {4}
10:55 BingoBoingo Baseball would probably be better if they just let leaded coffee back into the clubhouse instead of going through this pretense http://www.baseballnation.com/2012/6/29/3104332/is-there-an-adhd-epidemic-in-major-league-baseball
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 100 @ 0.00311511 = 0.3115 BTC [-] {6}
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00323667 = 3.4632 BTC [-] {3}
10:55 ThickAsThieves no, baseball is just boring
10:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003233 = 0.3071 BTC [-] {2}
10:57 BingoBoingo Most sports are fundamentally boring when they aren't understood.
10:57 ThickAsThieves i understand baseball
10:58 ThickAsThieves i worked for the sports section at a newspaper for 2 years
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00323 = 1.615 BTC [-]
10:58 ThickAsThieves it's boring
11:00 ThickAsThieves anyone else see strange characters in the Recent Trades box here: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=NEOBEE
11:00 Jere_Jones no
11:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 280 @ 0.00322128 = 0.902 BTC [-] {2}
11:00 ThickAsThieves hmm
11:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 980 @ 0.0031 = 3.038 BTC [-]
11:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00322199 = 0.5832 BTC [+] {2}
11:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00323999 = 6.48 BTC [+] {2}
11:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00323999 = 6.48 BTC [+] {3}
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 484 @ 0.00081244 = 0.3932 BTC [-] {5}
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.00323276 = 0.4138 BTC [+] {3}
11:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00312 = 0.624 BTC [-]
11:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11188887 BTC [+]
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.0055 = 0.66 BTC
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11188887 = 0.3357 BTC [+]
11:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00085493 = 1.9663 BTC [+]
11:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11189721 = 2.2379 BTC [+] {3}
11:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 300 @ 0.00044998 = 0.135 BTC [+] {4}
11:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.49833332 = 1.495 BTC [+] {3}
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00323299 = 0.1261 BTC [+]
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00323299 = 0.194 BTC [+]
11:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06279999 = 0.2512 BTC [+]
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.98537437 BTC to 2`471 shares, 80347 satoshi per share
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 701 @ 0.00322983 = 2.2641 BTC [+] {2}
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00323 = 1.2662 BTC [+]
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00322 = 0.161 BTC [-] {2}
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 341 @ 0.00323 = 1.1014 BTC [+]
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00323009 = 0.898 BTC [+] {3}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11000001 = 0.55 BTC [-]
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003233 = 0.1617 BTC [+]
12:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1938 @ 0.00085493 = 1.6569 BTC [+] {3}
12:18 kakobreklaa www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-W1weeK2UA
12:18 kakobreklaa this. shit. is .amazing.
12:18 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:19 kakobreklaa srs, look at it, imagine you went in a zoo.
12:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00323299 = 0.2425 BTC [-]
12:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00323299 = 0.1455 BTC [-]
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.00323299 = 0.7985 BTC [-]
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.10800001 = 0.216 BTC [-]
12:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00085904 = 18.1257 BTC [+] {2}
12:24 ThickAsThieves lol
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 309 @ 0.003232 = 0.9987 BTC [-]
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.10800001 BTC [-]
12:26 pankkake fiat money is also based on a meme!
12:26 ThickAsThieves "we're all going to the moon on generosity"
12:30 ThickAsThieves the guy the runs the place is a character huh
12:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]
12:31 ThickAsThieves "I have 12,00 domain names, I know everything about bitcoin, everything."
12:31 ThickAsThieves 12000*
12:31 kakobreklaa told ya its good material.
12:32 Jere_Jones Speaking of domain names, I have merkletree.com coming up for renewal and I'm not going to do anything with it. Can anybody use it?
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.003232 = 0.32 BTC [+]
12:36 benkay how is the ukraine doing today?
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 182 @ 0.0055 = 1.001 BTC
12:39 ThickAsThieves "
12:39 ThickAsThieves "Yesterday, just days after its high-profile $16 billion acquisition by Facebook, the Whatsapp messaging service suffered an unprecedented four hours of downtime. "
12:39 ThickAsThieves "the culprit was a faulty network router"
12:40 benkay network engineering is hard!
12:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 493 @ 0.003232 = 1.5934 BTC [+]
12:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.00323299 = 0.3039 BTC [+]
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.003232 = 0.1487 BTC [-] {3}
12:51 benkay ;;ticker --market mtgox
12:51 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 329.1, Best ask: 329.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 333.0, 24 hour volume: 44077.39346478, 24 hour low: 177.1, 24 hour high: 348.98, 24 hour vwap: 260.56546
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 439 @ 0.003232 = 1.4188 BTC [-]
12:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 561 @ 0.003232 = 1.8132 BTC [-]
12:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 339 @ 0.003232 = 1.0956 BTC [-]
12:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 262 @ 0.00323618 = 0.8479 BTC [+] {3}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00324956 = 0.7474 BTC [+] {3}
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.499 = 0.998 BTC [+]
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.06090223 = 1.5835 BTC [-] {10}
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-] {2}
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 79 @ 0.00493876 = 0.3902 BTC [+] {3}
13:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 800 @ 0.00015497 = 0.124 BTC [+] {3}
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05800334 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2}
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.499 BTC [+]
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [-]
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1209 @ 0.00016099 = 0.1946 BTC [+] {3}
13:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00319 = 0.1563 BTC [+]
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00323175 = 0.3135 BTC [+] {3}
13:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1920 @ 0.0001615 = 0.3101 BTC [+] {3}
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00016499 = 1.3199 BTC [+] {5}
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00323199 = 0.3232 BTC [+]
13:44 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHIRTfZ_20E#t=185
13:45 ozbot Sex positions - Part 1 (Wheelchair user) (Paraplegic) - YouTube
13:56 ThickAsThieves http://imgur.com/DIS3c0E
13:56 ozbot The developers for Neo & Bee have this on the outside of their office - Imgur
13:57 pankkake the image confuses my brain
14:00 jurov ThickAsThieves: is that the apple ssl code?
14:01 pankkake on the top, copyrigts are Satoshi Nakamoto then Bitcoin Developers ;)
14:02 Apocalyptic it's more likely some bitcoin code
14:03 benkay sublime text? really?
14:03 ThickAsThieves let's just hope they've implemented their cryptography without flaw
14:03 jurov tomorrow they have flagship opening..moar swag photos upcoming
14:04 pankkake the best way to have no flaw in your crypto is to not write it
14:04 jurov will there be neobee condoms, too?
14:04 pankkake you're onto something; shouldn't bitcoin come with lube? :)
14:05 ThickAsThieves i bet there are doge condoms
14:05 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1xx4fl/much_sex_so_safe_wow_its_the_great_dogecondom/
14:05 ozbot Much Sex So Safe! Wow! It's the Great Dogecondom Design Contest! Submit your condom wrapper designs
14:06 jurov *tat dodges the neobee question*
14:06 pankkake doges*
14:06 ThickAsThieves i assumed you werent serious about neo condoms
14:06 jurov comdoms are serious!!!1
14:07 KRS-One seriously uncomfortable..nothing like the real fucking thing
14:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00323198 = 0.1745 BTC [+]
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 839 @ 0.00323199 = 2.7116 BTC [+] {3}
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 933 @ 0.00325147 = 3.0336 BTC [+] {6}
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 403 @ 0.00323198 = 1.3025 BTC [-] {2}
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 254 @ 0.00328999 = 0.8357 BTC [+] {2}
14:16 bitcoinpete Dogeparty 2014: irllol
14:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15417 @ 0.00015172 = 2.3391 BTC [-] {15}
14:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1515 @ 0.00328878 = 4.9825 BTC [-] {5}
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
14:24 mod6 (09:19) < kakobreklaa> srs, look at it, imagine you went in a zoo << LOL "175 doge = 1 cupcake"
14:26 mod6 "WE'RE ALL GOIN TO THE MOON!" such amaze
14:27 bitcoinpete mod6 just some priceless specimens there
14:28 mod6 lmao @ this vid
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 309 @ 0.00329854 = 1.0192 BTC [-] {4}
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.0032 = 0.992 BTC [-]
14:31 mod6 "i own 12,000 domain names, I know everything about bitcoin, I probably know most of the damn people who own the bitcoin ..."
14:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00329654 = 3.4152 BTC [+] {5}
14:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.11406426 = 1.5969 BTC [+] {6}
14:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.0033 = 0.1914 BTC [+]
14:32 mod6 such scamcoin
14:33 bitcoinpete the scammiest lol
14:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00329997 = 0.1551 BTC [-]
14:34 benkay pankkake: why u no let me assass on mah fone?
14:34 mod6 thx for the link kakobrekla
14:34 pankkake benkay: if you have an iPhone, you are an enemy of freedom. no site for you
14:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00329999 = 1.65 BTC [+]
14:35 benkay i'm just a slave under the regime! don't make me suffer *more*!
14:35 pankkake :)
14:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1904 @ 0.00329996 = 6.2831 BTC [-] {8}
14:36 pankkake the rule is global to my server, so I can't really disable it for one domain
14:37 kakobrekla mod6 , yeah vexual and krs1 should look up to it
14:37 mod6 such lulz
14:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2108 @ 0.0033 = 6.9564 BTC [+] {2}
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2688 @ 0.00014028 = 0.3771 BTC [-] {9}
14:44 bitcoinpete http://arxiv.org/pdf/1402.3612v1.pdf
14:44 bitcoinpete "The complex architecture of primes and natural numbers"
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3990 @ 0.00013217 = 0.5274 BTC [-] {10}
14:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11759998 = 0.588 BTC [+]
14:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.11759999 = 0.8232 BTC [+] {2}
14:47 benkay heavy
14:47 benkay bitcoinpete ^^
14:47 bitcoinpete "The importance of primes transcend theoretical aspects, and practical applications include public key cryptography algorithms and pseudorandom number generators "
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.003333 = 0.2766 BTC [+] {3}
14:48 davout there is something i always wondered, how is a PRNG relevant to finding primes ?
14:49 davout i mean, there's only so much primes under a certain boundary right
14:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 156 @ 0.003333 = 0.5199 BTC [+] {2}
14:50 davout and the fact that you can factor RSA keys if you find two that share a prime makes me wonder whether we won't someday run out of usable ones
14:50 davout (usable primes)
14:50 dignork davout: if you mean finding primes for RSA, PRNG is only used to select a search range
14:51 davout because the more know RSA keys exist, the weaker they collectively become
14:51 davout s/know/known/
14:51 davout dignork: interesting
14:52 davout dignork: the global search space must be mind-boggling if the PRNG is relied upon to select a search space that won't overlap with other search spaces from other known RSA keys
14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1178 = 0.589 BTC [+]
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5746 @ 0.00013001 = 0.747 BTC [-] {2}
14:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 387 @ 0.00333298 = 1.2899 BTC [-] {2}
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00322 = 0.644 BTC [-]
14:57 dignork davout: the space is huge: let's say you're looking for a 2^1024 prime, which is not less than 2^1023, and roughly each 10th number is prime, you have ~2^1022 variants
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003308 = 0.1654 BTC [+] {2}
14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.48024402 = 6.7234 BTC [-] {4}
14:59 davout dignork: as in 10% of the numbers above 2^1023 is a prime?
15:00 mjoiii__ ThickAsThieves, "recent trades" is showing some junk characters in my browser too
15:01 mjoiii__ the bitcoin symbol
15:01 benkay ;;later tell mircea_popescu social vcs is facebook + git/subversion/mercurial/etc - social + version control system
15:01 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:02 dignork davout: not exactly, but it's around 1/10, so even if I'm horribly wrong it's tsill in range of 2^1000
15:02 dignork s/tsill/still/
15:02 jurov social control system :D
15:02 davout nice
15:03 benkay gamified work
15:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2004 @ 0.00333149 = 6.6763 BTC [-] {3}
15:03 benkay bleugh
15:03 benkay otoh
15:03 benkay GETS MORE OUTTA WORKERS
15:03 benkay so rock, hard place.
15:04 jurov the 'density' of primes around t should be 1/lnt.
15:04 jurov ;;calc 1/ln(2^1024)
15:04 gribble Error: 'ln' is not a defined function.
15:04 jurov ;;calc 1/log(2^1024)
15:04 gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
15:04 jurov it's 0.0014088819
15:04 jurov meand 1.4% of them should be primes, plenty enough
15:05 jurov er..0.14%
15:05 davout sounds like it
15:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4802 BTC [-]
15:05 dignork jurov: yep, but still it's in 2^1000 range :)
15:06 davout still, it sounds that because of the birthday paradox, the more RSA gets used, the weaker it becomes
15:06 dignork fun with huge numbers is that you can be horribly wrong and it's still on the same order of magnitude - huge :)
15:06 davout lol
15:06 bitcoinpete qapla huge is right
15:06 jurov birthday paradox doesn't stand a chance for 2^1000 bucket
15:07 jurov oh, did phuctor find something yet?
15:08 davout jurov: phuctor i dunno, but i heard some RSA keys were found to be weak
15:08 jurov that was cause of poor (predictable) rng
15:08 davout i see
15:09 davout not because of birthday paradox
15:10 jurov http://nosuchlabs.com/stats asciilifeform what does 35 duplicate moduli mean?
15:10 ozbot So far:
15:10 jurov it's normal or are these really weak keys?
15:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 891 @ 0.00333199 = 2.9688 BTC [+]
15:13 jurov lol that favicon
15:14 davout haha didn't notice
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.003332 = 0.3898 BTC [+] {2}
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 219 @ 0.003332 = 0.7297 BTC [+]
15:21 davout i'm in love with this woman -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZWghQBoKk
15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14948 @ 0.00086797 = 12.9744 BTC [+]
15:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00333199 = 0.9996 BTC [-]
15:27 dignork Ex0deus: regarding linux maintenance: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043212
15:28 dignork oops
15:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 880 @ 0.00333233 = 2.9325 BTC [+] {4}
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 660 @ 0.003332 = 2.1991 BTC [-] {2}
15:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.003332 = 1.1329 BTC [-]
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.00333299 = 0.36 BTC [+] {3}
15:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 372 @ 0.0033329 = 1.2398 BTC [-] {2}
15:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.00333296 = 4.9994 BTC [+] {2}
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.0033329 = 0.31 BTC [-] {2}
15:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.0033301 = 1.2654 BTC [-] {3}
15:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.003332 = 0.3998 BTC [+]
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003332 = 0.4998 BTC [+]
15:48 mod6 https://cheezburger.com/8079170048
15:48 ozbot Untitled - Cheezburger
15:49 kakobrekla lol
15:49 davout such swag
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.003332 = 0.7664 BTC [+]
15:51 dub who dat is
15:52 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#523724
15:52 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
15:52 kakobrekla take a look
15:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11375 = 0.455 BTC [-] {2}
15:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 321 @ 0.00481194 = 1.5446 BTC [-] {10}
15:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0033329 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
15:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.48014 = 2.4007 BTC [-]
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003332 = 0.2332 BTC [-]
15:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11779999 = 0.2356 BTC [+]
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.11255555 = 1.013 BTC [-] {4}
16:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00081659 = 0.1633 BTC [-] {4}
16:05 bitcoinpete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUpW18Exw8g
16:05 ozbot Decentralized #DogeParty - YouTube
16:06 bitcoinpete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUWaVbC8wY
16:06 ozbot Dogecoin: The Future Of All Trade And Commerce. - YouTube
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00333 = 0.2231 BTC [-] {2}
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 331 @ 0.00333 = 1.1022 BTC [-] {2}
16:07 pankkake facepaw
16:08 davout pankkake: LOL
16:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 603 @ 0.00330247 = 1.9914 BTC [-] {6}
16:12 jurov mpex.co/?mpsic=X.DGE anyone?
16:13 jurov or what is the code? DGC?
16:13 pankkake DOGE
16:13 pankkake more characters, more valuable
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 917 @ 0.00318685 = 2.9223 BTC [-] {6}
16:14 kakobrekla kraken sez its XDG
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.003329 = 0.223 BTC [+]
16:14 pankkake well they also say XBT
16:14 kakobrekla they are also retarded
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 183 @ 0.00332988 = 0.6094 BTC [+] {3}
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00332999 = 0.1865 BTC [+] {2}
16:19 ThickAsThieves what's the cheapest one can get 12,000 domain names anyway?
16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.0033 = 6.6 BTC [-]
16:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 301 @ 0.00332199 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
16:23 benkay i was made sad: http://stackoverflow.com/a/7470912
16:23 benkay "create an object with multiple values and return it"
16:23 benkay bawww
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00333 = 0.1665 BTC [+]
16:24 jurov every time this was necessary i saw untyped Array used
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 396 @ 0.00085745 = 0.3396 BTC [+] {4}
16:24 jurov so i considered it defacto standard
16:25 benkay huh thanks jurov
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 187 @ 0.00085747 = 0.1603 BTC [+] {2}
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00332999 = 0.2497 BTC [-]
16:27 pankkake but can you do r1, r2 = butts(); ?
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11779998 BTC [+]
16:28 dignork pankkake: not in java
16:28 benkay i can't see through all the semicolons
16:28 benkay help
16:28 benkay drowni--
16:28 pankkake :(
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00333 = 1.3387 BTC [+] {2}
16:30 benkay but what about different kinds of values?
16:30 benkay argh
16:31 jurov just return XML
16:31 jurov XML solver errything
16:31 jurov *solves
16:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 32 @ 0.0055 = 0.176 BTC
16:31 benkay i...
16:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
16:35 benkay i am actually going to return an array of strings
16:35 BeanFactoryPostP ouch BeanFactoryPostProcessor too long
16:35 benkay because oh dear god save me
16:36 BeanFactoryPostP don't forget to define them as global constants
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11779999 BTC [+]
16:38 benkay global butt
16:38 benkay more please davout
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00331 = 0.662 BTC [-]
16:40 davout benkay: more what? music?
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 598 @ 0.00331 = 1.9794 BTC [-]
16:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11779999 = 0.3534 BTC [+]
16:40 benkay cello in particular
16:40 davout benkay: :3
16:40 benkay i found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwjZnZDpXSA which has the same thing, but maybe more of
16:40 benkay concerto in d, that is
16:40 davout benkay: nice, i'll listen to this
16:41 davout you want the mp3s of jacqueline dupré's C & D Haydn ?
16:41 davout she is amazing
16:41 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
16:42 benkay ooh that sounds lovely yah
16:44 davout gimme a minute, imma install dropbox
16:44 benkay no don't do it
16:44 benkay it's a trap
16:44 davout lol
16:45 davout web version will do then
16:45 benkay man we should really just share public keys and scp stuff to each other
16:45 benkay and i'm not setting that up right now - dick deep in java oop spaghetti
16:46 davout you don't need it to download, there is the "copy public URL" feature that's kinda neat
16:46 benkay that is kinda neat
16:46 benkay yeah man thats cool i'll always take good music :)
16:47 davout i love to compare interpretations, sometimes it feels like the differences make for a completely different piece
16:51 davout hah, the gendron cadenza on the C 1st mov. is superb
16:51 bitcoinpete I really couldn't help myself here: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/dogederps/
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1130 @ 0.00333081 = 3.7638 BTC [+] {3}
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.0008158 = 0.8158 BTC [-] {9}
16:51 bitcoinpete mod6 thanks for the pic!
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00333299 = 3.5663 BTC [+] {3}
16:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.003333 = 0.8166 BTC [+]
16:57 benkay bitcoinpete: what are your bitcoinspirations?
16:58 mod6 haha bitcoinpete, np :]
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11749999 = 0.235 BTC [-]
17:03 bitcoinpete benkay: haha for blogging? or why BTC in general?
17:04 benkay open ended question
17:06 jurov benkay and your? to use btc to liberate cascadia?
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.003333 = 0.2866 BTC [+]
17:07 benkay that's just a joke jurov ;)
17:07 benkay a schtick as they say
17:07 jurov :)
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.003333 = 0.45 BTC [+]
17:08 jurov oh, and i heard cascadian national animal will be tree octopus :D
17:08 bitcoinpete Well, I find the level of intellectual rigour in this space to be the highest. BTC has the broadest scope of implications of pretty much anything I've yet encountered and that brings forth the most fascinating types of people.
17:08 bitcoinpete It's a stimulating space, that's why I'm here
17:09 benkay .bait
17:09 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/8893d68eafcd23a1e21e9103cad2c57e/tumblr_mlie66nLbn1so5dabo1_1280.jpg
17:09 benkay now there's some stimulation
17:10 bitcoinpete titilating
17:10 davout benkay: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_RaZ7btje5Jo/TJ7VObLtCdI/AAAAAAAAA1I/s5htkxq62JA/s1600/nudecellist.jpg
17:10 benkay cute
17:10 davout the chick looks good too
17:11 benkay sho nuff
17:12 pankkake don't know why but women with string instruments do something for me
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.10302984 = 1.0303 BTC [+] {7}
17:13 bitcoinpete benkay basically, my bitcoinspiration, such as it is, is not being bored. and yours?
17:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00087548 = 6.2159 BTC [+]
17:22 benkay i think not coining words like that is mine.
17:22 davout benkay: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oegb7af4b827rjg/Jacqueline%20du%20Pr_-%20Vionlincello%20%2B%20Barbirolli%20-%20Lon%20Sym%20O.zip
17:23 * benkay downloads 60 megs of binary to disk from a stranger's dropbox
17:23 benkay davout auth plz
17:23 benkay jkjk
17:23 davout benkay: come in the van, i have candy
17:23 davout it's not public?
17:24 benkay davout: it's public, i was asking something else
17:24 benkay ;;gettrust davout
17:24 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user davout: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=davout | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=davout | Rated since: Thu Jan 27 16:22:24 2011
17:25 davout what was it you were asking
17:25 benkay i was joking that i want you to auth with gribble before i download your .zip
17:25 davout haha I GET IT KNOW!
17:25 benkay ding ding ding
17:26 davout you better not unzip the first stranger you meet, jus saying
17:26 dexX7 lol
17:26 davout >D
17:26 dexX7 i wasn't expecting music when i started the download
17:27 davout dexX7: the tranny porn is in a private folder
17:27 benkay to the logs with you, dexX7
17:28 davout mtgox lately -> http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46398991.jpg
17:29 dexX7 hehe
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 689 @ 0.0033 = 2.2737 BTC [+]
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 384 @ 0.0033 = 1.2672 BTC [+] {4}
17:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.113 BTC [-]
17:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 303 @ 0.0033 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
17:35 praeconium Are there some kind of rating services for crypto currencies? How to compare them?
17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.0032987 = 0.1352 BTC [-]
17:37 kakobrekla yes
17:38 benkay no
17:38 pankkake if coin.name == 'bitcoin': return True
17:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 463 @ 0.00325 = 1.5048 BTC [-] {2}
17:39 jurov goto fail;
17:39 assbot Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1652573/plain/)
17:39 kakobrekla !b 10
17:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 36 @ 0.0055 = 0.198 BTC {2}
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00329869 = 0.2309 BTC [+]
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 900 @ 0.00043 = 0.387 BTC [-]
17:46 peterl is NeoBee IPO over now?
17:48 dexX7 from lmb-holdings.com: ... and there are 2756311 of Shares available, out of which 15653 are locked.
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00328 = 0.164 BTC [-]
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 470 @ 0.00329869 = 1.5504 BTC [+]
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.0032987 = 0.4486 BTC [+]
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.0032987 = 0.4981 BTC [+]
17:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 160 @ 0.0032987 = 0.5278 BTC [+]
17:54 benkay such demand
17:54 benkay neomoon
17:55 kakobrekla over 9000 satoshi
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 303 @ 0.00329869 = 0.9995 BTC [-]
17:55 benkay !t h neobee
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00301100 / 0.00324505 / 0.00333300 (63246 shares, 205.23638306 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00316807 / 0.00333300 (86852 shares, 275.15330922 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00302647 / 0.00333300 (231394 shares, 700.30791976 BTC)
17:55 benkay !t h rent
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (760 shares, 4.18000000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (4034 shares, 22.18700000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (36390 shares, 200.14500000 BTC)
17:55 benkay lookit that, almost 3x rentalstarter
17:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00329 = 0.125 BTC [-]
17:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.103999 = 0.208 BTC [+] {2}
17:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00329 = 0.1316 BTC [-]
17:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 719 @ 0.00329 = 2.3655 BTC [-] {3}
17:59 benkay heuristic average neo trade size ~3B
17:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0033 = 1.155 BTC [+] {2}
17:59 benkay probably erring on the high side honestly
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.0033 = 0.8052 BTC [+] {2}
18:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00333 = 1.332 BTC [+] {2}
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 739 @ 0.0008576 = 0.6338 BTC [+] {4}
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.00333 = 0.7259 BTC [+]
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.00322561 = 9.6768 BTC [-] {5}
18:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
18:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.003299 = 0.2573 BTC [+]
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 273 @ 0.0033 = 0.9009 BTC [+] {2}
18:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1042 @ 0.0033 = 3.4386 BTC [+] {2}
18:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.06149996 = 0.246 BTC [+] {2}
18:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 309 @ 0.0033 = 1.0197 BTC [+] {2}
18:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 173 @ 0.0033 = 0.5709 BTC [+] {2}
18:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.0615 = 1.722 BTC [+]
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0615 = 2.46 BTC [+]
18:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.003299 = 0.386 BTC [-]
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.0615 = 0.738 BTC [+]
18:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 651 @ 0.003299 = 2.1476 BTC [-] {3}
18:41 benkay well that was nice davout thank you
18:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.003299 = 0.3068 BTC [-]
~ 15 minutes ~
18:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 432 @ 0.00329927 = 1.4253 BTC [+] {3}
18:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0033 = 0.1155 BTC [+]
19:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 445 @ 0.0033 = 1.4685 BTC [+]
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 339 @ 0.0033 = 1.1187 BTC [+]
19:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003299 = 0.4949 BTC [-]
19:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00088258 = 10.6792 BTC [+]
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.003299 = 0.2474 BTC [-]
19:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003299 = 0.3299 BTC [-]
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.003299 = 0.3002 BTC [-]
19:12 bitcoinpete ;;later tell mircea_popescu cluck, cluck! Also, for the sake of curiosity, I'd be more interested in a car registry than a car club per se. Also also, ce nu the omoarà the intàreste. Noroc!
19:12 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.003299 = 0.2111 BTC [-]
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 206 @ 0.003299 = 0.6796 BTC [-]
19:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0033 = 0.2541 BTC [+]
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 88 @ 0.0055 = 0.484 BTC
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11749999 = 0.3525 BTC [+]
19:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06279998 = 0.314 BTC [+] {2}
19:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10101 = 0.404 BTC [-]
19:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-]
19:24 MisterE http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/19/apple-google-and-other-tech-companies-made-a-secret-pact-to-ke/?ncid=rss_trunhttps://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/automation.png
19:24 MisterE oops
19:24 MisterE wtf
19:24 MisterE https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/automation.png
19:24 MisterE http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/19/apple-google-and-other-tech-companies-made-a-secret-pact-to-ke/?ncid=rss_trun
19:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06279999 = 0.314 BTC [+]
19:24 MisterE both good
19:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.064 = 0.384 BTC [+] {3}
19:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 78 @ 0.11787558 = 9.1943 BTC [+] {7}
19:35 MisterE http://www.eccouncil.org/
19:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1438 @ 0.00332491 = 4.7812 BTC [+] {4}
19:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00333 = 0.6027 BTC [+] {2}
19:48 benkay MisterE: re: wages, old news.
19:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00333 = 0.2531 BTC [+]
19:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.498 BTC [+]
19:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 409 @ 0.00333 = 1.362 BTC [+] {2}
19:57 the20year2 our volume on HL seems to be pretty good today.....wonder what happened
19:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00333 = 1.4985 BTC [+] {2}
20:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00087798 = 18.3937 BTC [-] {2}
20:04 benkay !t h neobee
20:04 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00301100 / 0.00325251 / 0.00333300 (75607 shares, 245.91259058 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00318364 / 0.00333300 (99117 shares, 315.55323104 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00303986 / 0.00333300 (243755 shares, 740.98060618 BTC)
20:04 benkay something to do with neobee i gather
20:05 the20year2 our stock has had good volume too because of it
20:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0033 = 0.165 BTC [-]
20:10 jayk_
20:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00087676 = 16.0447 BTC [-] {2}
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.11863 = 1.1863 BTC [+] {2}
20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 365 @ 0.0033 = 1.2045 BTC [-]
20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 40 @ 0.00425249 = 0.1701 BTC [+] {4}
20:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4591 @ 0.00087548 = 4.0193 BTC [-]
20:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20759 @ 0.00087508 = 18.1658 BTC [-]
20:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1188 = 0.594 BTC [+]
20:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11903991 = 2.3808 BTC [+] {6}
20:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00087736 = 12.0198 BTC [+] {2}
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
21:05 benkay the20year2: it's not "volume" if you're only selling.
21:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.0008829 = 36.5521 BTC [+] {4}
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.003281 = 0.4429 BTC [-]
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.1198 = 0.3594 BTC [+]
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0033 = 0.198 BTC [+]
21:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.0033 = 1.0725 BTC [+] {2}
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0033 = 0.1221 BTC [+]
21:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00328 = 0.4953 BTC [-]
21:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00328617 = 0.2662 BTC [+] {2}
21:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]
21:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00085991 = 0.8599 BTC [+] {5}
21:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 21 @ 0.16230094 = 3.4083 BTC [-]
21:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00499178 = 0.4992 BTC [+] {5}
21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.00088179 = 4.9909 BTC [-]
21:38 mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay ah ah i see.
21:38 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.0033 = 4.95 BTC [+]
21:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [+]
21:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0033 = 0.2244 BTC [+] {2}
21:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19409 @ 0.00088179 = 17.1147 BTC [-]
21:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1198 = 0.599 BTC [+] {2}
21:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1199 = 0.4796 BTC [+]
21:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14678 @ 0.00087815 = 12.8895 BTC [-]
21:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.003292 = 9.876 BTC [-]
21:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003292 = 3.292 BTC [-]
21:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11974999 BTC [-]
22:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11975 = 0.7185 BTC [+]
22:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.11975 = 2.874 BTC [+]
22:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0652 = 0.1304 BTC [+]
22:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3060 @ 0.00329738 = 10.09 BTC [+] {3}
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]
22:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30341 @ 0.00087907 = 26.6719 BTC [+]
22:21 dexX7 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303426304579401883794330454 + http://pastebin.com/4ZFv0MXb
22:22 Duffer1 2 down
22:23 ozbot Mt. Gox CEO Resigns From Bitcoin Foundation Board - WSJ.com
22:23 Duffer1 bitbet who's next?
22:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 743 @ 0.00015299 = 0.1137 BTC [-]
22:26 bloctoc note to self, if offered a seat on the board, run.
22:26 bloctoc away
22:26 the20year They had been calling for him to resign
22:27 the20year Who else resigned?
22:27 bloctoc shrem
22:28 the20year http://imgur.com/UrOOiYH
22:28 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
22:28 the20year Holy crap
22:29 mircea_popescu bloctoc good point
22:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00088342 = 9.9385 BTC [+]
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.49958799 = 9.9918 BTC [+] {6}
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9121 @ 0.00016339 = 1.4903 BTC [+] {2}
22:30 cazalla karpeles is a loser and i think he is a booser
22:30 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://thoughtinfection.com/2014/02/22/we-are-becoming-programmable-society/
22:30 bloctoc can someone explain that wall on bitstamp. I know it's declasse to talk about price action, but the20year just brought it up
22:30 mircea_popescu o look who's here. thestringpuller when did oyu get out
22:30 mircea_popescu bloctoc someone is selling like 8k
22:30 thestringpuller they let me out of jail last week
22:30 thestringpuller it's so weird on the outside
22:31 B007 jail?
22:31 mircea_popescu finally can have cock in the other hole ?
22:31 thestringpuller no it was a joke
22:31 thestringpuller i've been locked away at my day job as a slave
22:31 B007 what's your day job?
22:31 thestringpuller i just thought mircea_popescu would find that article interesting since he talkeda bout teh concept like a year ago
22:31 the20year It's about 10k worth of BTC , trying to push market down
22:33 mircea_popescu why necessarily meta ? can't people just sell stuff anymore ?
22:35 dexX7 confirmed https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=462
22:36 mircea_popescu people harping on twitter about how women are the future of tech
22:36 mircea_popescu mp: "Women are the future of tech like they are the present of governance. When it sucks they come to dominate it."
22:36 mircea_popescu ensuing butthurt.
22:36 antephialtic https://www.bitstamp.net/order_book
22:36 antephialtic look at the asks
22:36 mircea_popescu antephialtic look at the log
22:36 thestringpuller lol bitbet is technically bound by gpg contract via prospectus. says in prospectus the methodology of how payouts/bet resolution occurs etc...
22:37 antephialtic micrea_popescu: whoops
22:38 the20year Where's the bitstamp orderbook?
22:39 mircea_popescu the20year you just added a jpg
22:39 Jere_Jones If I recall correctly, one of mircea_popescu's points about gpg contracts was that they are unenforcable and that they should be agreed to with the knowledge that they are unenforcable.
22:39 the20year It was from /r/bitcoin
22:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.0033 = 0.8085 BTC [+] {2}
22:40 the20year Depends on the state i'd guess. Is it enforcable in your state? GPGs are not in mine, but online contracts can be certified
22:40 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones quote is better than paraphrase :)
22:40 mircea_popescu you mean the gpg contracts trilema article ?
22:41 Jere_Jones Looking for a quote
22:41 Jere_Jones I've been reading a lot of trilema so it may take me a minute to find it.
22:43 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ << you meant that ?
22:43 Jere_Jones Ah. My mistake. Not "unenforcable". "Won't be enforced".
22:43 Jere_Jones http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/
22:43 mircea_popescu aha.
22:44 mircea_popescu see, the shit about me is that i write very subtly. these aren't the same.
22:45 Jere_Jones Yeah. Certainly distinct.
22:45 ozbot GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:45 ozbot GPG contracts pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:45 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhLGGI4IcAA3bA5.jpg:large << check out lenin taking a ride
22:45 thestringpuller yea trilema
22:46 thestringpuller lol won't be enforced. the other guy says "self enforcing" i just found it interesting people are bringing these subjects up years later
22:47 mircea_popescu thestringpuller there's this massive derpage re "we've found this technology which we'll pretend like and demand it does our work for us"
22:47 mircea_popescu there was some good discussion here re why that's nonsense, lemme find it.
22:47 thestringpuller blogger: "omg crytocontracts are new, they'll change things" bitcoin-assets: "Uh we've been using them for a few years now, we know."
22:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2014#496087
22:48 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
22:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
22:49 mircea_popescu thestringpuller pretty much. then "and they aren't for X anyway, they're for Y" then blogger "omfg you do not understand the holy cause of the future!!11"
22:49 benkay a local businessman asked me about Ethereum and its "distributed autonomous corporations" recently. i sent him back a tome the gist of which was "come on man you run a business do you really think these nerds are going to code up an AI that can handle the ambiguity and indeterminacy of what we do? it mighta worked for S.D. and J.D. but shit at the end of the day those were driven just fine by humans!"
22:49 benkay were/are
22:50 mircea_popescu benkay except sd ipod on mpex not on ethereum
22:50 benkay that is precisely my point.
22:51 benkay those were driven just fine by humans.
22:51 mircea_popescu anyway. kids gotta kid.
22:51 benkay no ether-fueled turing computers necessary.
22:53 thestringpuller TURING COMPLETE
22:53 benkay turing my butt
22:53 benkay compute my poop
22:53 kakobrekla /cap req -identify-msg
22:53 kakobrekla eh
22:53 mircea_popescu can i sell tickets to "Touring benkay butt. The international butt tour!" ?
22:54 mircea_popescu oooo
22:54 benkay only if we figure out a way to use my poops as memory
22:54 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones you know the merchant of venice, do you ?
22:55 Jere_Jones No
22:55 Jere_Jones Oh. Shakespeare?
22:55 nicknode benkay: ether is useless cause real word is messy, that it?
22:55 nicknode real world, that is
22:55 benkay people don't use the script system in bitcoin not 'cause it's not turing complete but because the needs ethereum satisfies are entirely imaginary.
22:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1044 @ 0.00322969 = 3.3718 BTC [-] {3}
22:56 benkay nicknode to within an order of magnitude
22:56 benkay how is your DAC going to handle the problem of vetting pantie suppliers from pakistan, india, china, etc?
22:56 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones yes. it's what people were discussing in that log link i gave above. my selection of it, ie http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/
22:56 mircea_popescu and that readlist goes for nicknode too :D
22:59 benkay i wonder what fraction of shit sold for btc is sold to people who just want to spend their bitcoins to fuel the consumer tech self-validation angle
23:00 mircea_popescu considering i've not bought anything for btc in 2013...
23:00 benkay what, humanskin notebooks not sold for btc?
23:00 mircea_popescu i guess i bought some things, actually, not on the usual "here's my shop" sense
23:01 Duffer1 mp do you even lambo?
23:01 mircea_popescu nope
23:01 mircea_popescu i don't even drive.
23:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]
23:03 randomcloud Did somebody ring for me?
23:03 dignork mircea_popescu: gpg-contracts is a beautifull article. Thank you.
23:03 randomcloud Oh BingoBoingo~
23:03 mircea_popescu dignork my pleasure.
23:03 mircea_popescu randomcloud who're you ?
23:04 mircea_popescu o wait, you're the randomcloud chick i remember nao
23:04 randomcloud I got a saved message that I was wanted here for some reason
23:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.063 = 0.189 BTC [-]
23:04 randomcloud And hi random famous bitcoin rich person
23:04 mircea_popescu lol
23:04 randomcloud Where's BingoBoingo?
23:04 mircea_popescu either in jail or in a whiskey barrel
23:05 KRS-One haha
23:05 randomcloud So who needed me here and why?
23:06 benkay from whom did this message originate, randomcloud
23:06 benkay ?
23:07 randomcloud A bot in another room
23:07 randomcloud It said someone sent a message 20 hours ago saying I was wanted in -assets
23:07 mircea_popescu you mean gribble ?
23:07 randomcloud *shrug*
23:07 Duffer1 interesting
23:07 randomcloud No, not gribble, it's from another room where BingoBoingo and I hang out in; the message says he was the one who sent it
23:07 randomcloud Damn it, now I'm gonna wonder what's going on the whole night. :/
23:07 mircea_popescu well so then he was the one who wanted you
23:08 mircea_popescu check out the logs of here ~20 hours ago,
23:08 Jere_Jones "But lend it rather to thine enemy, who, if he break, thou mayst with better face exact the penalty." lol
23:08 mircea_popescu maybe it becomes obvious
23:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11500001 BTC [-]
23:11 benkay hey guys what's the notion of estimating how much of your pot to bet on a thing of known odds and payout called?
23:11 benkay optimal risk something or other?
23:11 benkay risk pricing?
23:12 B007 lol
23:12 mircea_popescu benkay http://trilema.com/2014/all-you-may-ever-need-to-know-of-financial-planning/ ?
23:12 nicknode kelly betting is one method
23:12 mircea_popescu ie, kelly criterion ?
23:12 benkay 0.01% chance of winning 1B - how ams even calculate
23:12 benkay value of above
23:12 mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.01 * 10**9
23:12 gribble 10000000
23:13 nicknode that is "EV" estimated value
23:13 mircea_popescu i guess i missed some zeroes but you get the idea.
23:13 mike_c EV = expected value
23:13 benkay so it is a simple product
23:13 mircea_popescu so sez bernoulli.
23:14 nicknode how much to bet then becomes a question of expected value (or rather excess value, or "edge"), variance and account size
23:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24294 @ 0.000885 = 21.5002 BTC [+] {2}
23:15 mike_c kelly criterion is simple on a 1:1 payout - you bet your edge. that is if you have a 60% chance of winning on a 1:1 payout you bet 20% of your bankroll.
23:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00088629 = 7.6221 BTC [+]
23:15 benkay hah
23:15 mike_c more complicated on variable payouts, but the formulas are not complicated.
23:15 benkay so i just realized the outsized returns of "startups" blind the average street "angel" to kelly criteria evaluation
23:16 mike_c average street angels are not profitable
23:16 mircea_popescu yes and yes.
23:16 mircea_popescu welcome to being smarter than most people club.
23:16 benkay well duh
23:17 benkay plus the mythology and cult worship around google/yahoo/msft/etc totally throws everyone's radars out of whack
23:17 benkay dude!
23:17 nicknode i've always felt im part of that club, though i seem to never recognize the other members though
23:17 mircea_popescu benkay consider this simple point : facebook overpaid by about 99.x% for that whatsapp thing.
23:17 benkay someone tried to compare their shitty startup to google at me the other day
23:17 benkay outta mah FACE
23:17 mircea_popescu this yielded two results : telegraf now making noises about how they added 800k new users in the past 4 hours
23:17 mircea_popescu rather than 1mn a day
23:18 mircea_popescu and armchair generals going "i wonder who's the next to buy one of these. vodafone ? telefonica ?"
23:18 benkay (telegraf?)
23:18 mircea_popescu then i point out that this bs deal put the bar way wya topo high, which means there won't be more sales, as old money has more of a clue
23:18 mircea_popescu (dunno some bs messaging app nobody heard of)
23:18 mike_c i was reading about HP acquisition of autonomy the other day. numbers were something like "acquired for $11b. HP wrote off $8B"
23:18 mircea_popescu and they go like o no, old money loses money through its teeth.
23:18 mircea_popescu because they actually believe this shit.
23:19 mircea_popescu so then i point out that telefonica makes 5bn net on 70bn revenue
23:19 mircea_popescu whereas fb makes 1 bn net on 7 bn revenue
23:19 mircea_popescu and so it's a chipmunk in the discussion.
23:19 mircea_popescu so they retort that telefonica did in fact buy some messaging app
23:19 mircea_popescu and lo and behold, they did indeed. for 70 MILLION
23:19 benkay bahaha
23:20 mircea_popescu and so then they run for the exists.
23:20 benkay scammers scamming scammers
23:20 mircea_popescu but one can't not stop to observe that yo! had you spent five minutes thinking things though on publicly available data,
23:20 mircea_popescu you'd have not been a total derp
23:21 mircea_popescu mike_c there must be some tax angle in all this i'm missing.
23:21 benkay exits as in everything is ludicrously overvalued everyone going to cash this instant?
23:21 mike_c the autonomy deal? accounting fraud that was only found after acquistion
23:21 mircea_popescu benkay no exists as in, and i quote, "you lost me, all I said was WHO will start investing, didn't name an exit price, have a lovely Sunday :) "
23:22 dignork mircea_popescu telegraf app is known, apaprently only in russia
23:22 mircea_popescu not like he has dough to exit anyway.
23:22 mircea_popescu dignork the fact that user numbers are like "views", ie easily and commonly faked is only known here, apparently.
23:22 mircea_popescu mike_c ah i see.
23:23 mircea_popescu anyway. this is, mostly, the bezzle.
23:23 dignork mircea_popescu: i assume it's known since it creates a lot of media noise in russian language. media noise can be inflated as well, it just costs more than "views"
23:24 mircea_popescu right.
23:24 mircea_popescu meanwhile over at the stupid farm :
23:24 mircea_popescu @TheBitcoinWife · 6h
23:24 mircea_popescu Staunch Bitcoin purists are missing out on the beautiful decentralization of innovation that is manifested in altcoins. Real time evolution!
23:24 mircea_popescu @Mircea_Popescu · 56m
23:24 mircea_popescu @TheBitcoinWife @Beautyon_ Hon, you really need to drop by #bitcoin-assets. Yer the one missing out. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets …
23:24 mircea_popescu @TheBitcoinWife · 44s
23:24 mircea_popescu @Mircea_Popescu @Beautyon_ Pls dont call me hon & patronize me. If you paid any attention youd know Im not "missing out." I LIVE for Bitcoin
23:24 mircea_popescu how could you NOT patronize these idiots ?
23:24 mircea_popescu i mean, she thinks it's because she's a woman, but it's merely because she's dumb.
23:26 the20year Some people can't comprehend the fact that they're supid so they want to blame everyone else and call them names
23:27 mircea_popescu kinda why calling people names is so effectual.
23:27 mircea_popescu you call one of these schmucks names it's like a cataclysmic event in their little brain.
23:28 the20year Don't even have to do that 90% of the time
23:28 the20year Just say something that could potentially be taken the wrong way and all hell breaks loose
23:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5099 BTC [+]
23:31 benkay oh my god bitcoinwife tweet feed or whatever they call is maybe worse than btctalk?
23:31 benkay no, couldn't be...
23:31 benkay but sheeeeit maybe
23:31 mircea_popescu lol
23:31 mircea_popescu but SHE LIVES FOR IT
23:31 Jere_Jones "No, none that thou hast wit enough to make." lol
23:31 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones you see ? YOU SEE ?
23:31 benkay wtf no deep link tweets?
23:31 Jere_Jones I'm getting there
23:32 mircea_popescu so as a bonus exercise for he who was smart enough to find the important spot, write an alternative future or description of what the prayer should hgave been
23:32 benkay http://imgur.com/2TmId25
23:32 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
23:33 benkay dumbest in the world award
23:33 benkay so dumb cannot comprehend their own dumbness
23:34 benkay words fail
23:35 benkay THE HORROR http://imgur.com/elHxylT
23:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00328 = 0.328 BTC [-]
23:38 nubbins` hi
23:40 Duffer1 Mrs.P TheBitcoinWife ‏@TheBitcoinWife 4h
23:40 Duffer1 @pbaril @bitcoin_girl IMO #MAX, #QRK & #DOGE differ from each other enough that unless you are day-trading alts, it'd be prudent to hold all
23:40 Duffer1 o.o
23:40 nubbins` prudent
23:41 mod6 lol
23:43 mircea_popescu lolk
23:44 Duffer1 prudent to hold all
23:44 Duffer1 the stuple has spoken
23:44 Duffer1 poverty is fun
23:44 mircea_popescu werll if not fun at least prudent
23:44 mircea_popescu DONT PATRONIZE HER
23:44 mod6 *smirk*
23:45 mircea_popescu this is what the fucktarded activists have reduced the matter to. these are "women in tech"
23:45 Duffer1 ah shit i went 6 on the second line
23:45 mircea_popescu hunter coin is adorable and she roots out for ken the most.
23:45 mircea_popescu fucking despicable abuse of women to a degree not the loweliest slave in the most obscure african harem endures.
23:46 mircea_popescu ahaha wait wait. "the proven leaders in crypto" max keiser ?
23:46 nubbins` so there's this thing called the RPM Challenge, where interested parties may give themselves the task of writing and recording an album of music entirely during the month of february
23:46 KRS-One well? who else had a coin named after them?
23:46 nubbins` we decided to make a Dick Surgery album for RPM this year; listening to it now
23:46 Duffer1 proven leaders in crypto (7)
23:47 Duffer1 my haiku is saved thank you MP
23:47 mircea_popescu nubbins` not bad
23:47 nubbins` mircea_popescu: you're only saying that because you haven't heard it
23:47 nubbins` HEH
23:48 mircea_popescu benkay https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437811089900711936
23:48 mircea_popescu lmao
23:48 nubbins` it's an aleatoric cacophony
23:48 mircea_popescu what's so hard about making an album in a month. 3 days/song is over the average for pro pop these days.
23:48 nubbins` but it's an excuse to submit a dick surgery to the CBC
23:48 nubbins` and we can't pass that up
23:48 nubbins` mircea_popescu: sure, but pro pop = $$
23:48 mircea_popescu well yeah
23:48 nubbins` the music machine is costly
23:49 mircea_popescu most girlies get about a week in the studio
23:49 nubbins` rpm is largely an amateur/independent affair
23:49 mircea_popescu for their "album"
23:49 nubbins` although there's a shockingly high number of really good albums that come out of it each year
23:49 mircea_popescu i guess some people aren't lazy bums
23:49 * nubbins` nods
23:50 mircea_popescu i had no idea how well my follow list protects me on twitter.
23:50 mircea_popescu there's like fiddy billion of these retards who think they matter in btc because they have no life, and so they "live for bitcoin"
23:52 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
23:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 579.21, Best ask: 579.34, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 579.34, 24 hour volume: 34513.61331147, 24 hour low: 566.22, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 605.031106652
23:53 nubbins` ;;seen thestringpuller
23:53 gribble thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour and 19 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> TURING COMPLETE
23:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00088779 = 5.9482 BTC [+]
23:55 cazalla gee i hate that bitcoin wife bullshit, if that was my wife, i'd beat her
23:55 mircea_popescu why ?
23:55 nubbins` "the bitcoin wife"
23:55 nubbins` eyeroll
23:57 the20year I like the blog theme
23:57 the20year Maybe we could use that type of theme for rentalstarter...
23:57 mircea_popescu people with any smarts need to be convinced to start blogs. people who already have blogs... dun wanna use the noggin. it's a dilemma.
23:57 cazalla too outspoken, her husband should do the speaking yet he is silent
23:57 mircea_popescu cazalla i would guess the gimmick is that btc/satoshi is the husband
23:58 nubbins` ehh, blogs are a burden
23:58 cazalla i use to blog
23:58 nubbins` used to, yep
23:59 cazalla that is to say i paid indians to write barely legible shit and wrapped it in adsense
23:59 nubbins` heh
23:59 cazalla good times
23:59 mircea_popescu everything worth doing is a burden
23:59 the20year Used to be quite profitable, I made quite a bit of c oin hiring philipinos to blog for companies
23:59 nubbins` sure, that's fair
23:59 the20year and can be outsourced
23:59 mircea_popescu business is a burden, children are a burden, womenz are a burden, fucking eating is a burden
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