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00:00 nubbins` if eating is a burden, you're doing it wrong
00:00 cazalla yeah, i miss the pre panda/penguin days
00:00 nubbins` hahahaha this album is fucked
00:00 mircea_popescu you gotta chew...
00:00 kakobrekla yes.
00:00 cazalla i had so many 4slicetoaster.com websites plastered with their engrish
00:00 chetty what you never got bored of chewing nubbins?
00:00 nubbins` i honestly can't hear most of it when we play
00:00 nubbins` because the drums are so goddamn loud
00:00 nubbins` but this is fucking rich
00:01 mircea_popescu drum cowbell ?
00:01 nubbins` no cowbell, heavy on the cymbals tho
00:01 mircea_popescu same deal.
00:01 nubbins` chetty: sometimes my mouth gets tired, but only when it's a really delicious meal that i feel i need to eat quickly
00:02 mircea_popescu nubbins` you know, just because for w/e reason you don't perceive it as a burden
00:02 mircea_popescu doesn't mean it isn't.
00:02 the20year sell wall on bitstamp is about halfway through
00:02 nubbins` well, everything's a burden to some schmo
00:02 mircea_popescu the20year idiot zonehenge "karpeles quits bf, price plumets"
00:02 mircea_popescu totally infantile these people. and i mean, the bitcoinwife being a clueless bint is one thing
00:02 the20year Seems like price has gone up to me
00:02 nubbins` haha how drunk was i when we recorded this
00:03 nubbins` the dogs got into a fight and we all started barking at them
00:03 mod6 its a never-ending parade of idiots commenting on twitter about bitcoin
00:04 mircea_popescu mod6 commenting'd be one thing.
00:05 Jere_Jones If not for http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/, most of http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/ would have been lost on me.
00:05 mircea_popescu the problem is they have the unmitigated audacity to pretend like they know what they're talking about.
00:05 mod6 very true.
00:05 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones bitcoin has proven leaders you see. max keiser et co :D
00:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 700 @ 0.00328406 = 2.2988 BTC [+] {2}
00:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.0032 = 0.3232 BTC [-] {2}
00:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00088779 = 7.1467 BTC [+]
00:12 mircea_popescu TIL nick szabo thinks peak oil is nonsense.
00:13 benkay does he make coherent arguments on the topic?
00:14 benkay oh the underwater mining routine?
00:14 mircea_popescu sort-of. difficult to evail
00:14 mircea_popescu http://szabo.best.vwh.net/miningthevastydeep.html
00:14 ozbot Mining the Vasty Deep
00:15 mircea_popescu Some perspective, even some purely theoretical perspective, is in order. If we look at the problem at the scale of the solar system, we find that hydrocarbons are remarkably common -- Titan has clouds and lakes of ethane and methane, for example, and there are trillions of tonnes of hydrocarbons, at least, to be found on comets and in the atmospheres and moons of the gas giant planets. What is far more scarce in the so
00:15 mircea_popescu lar system is free oxygen. If there will ever be a "peak" in the inputs to hydrocarbon combustion in the solar system it will be in free oxygen -- which as a natural occurence is extremely rare beyond Earth's atmosphere, and is rather expensive to make artificially.
00:15 mircea_popescu for instance.
00:15 mircea_popescu this is in fact sound, at that scale.
00:16 mircea_popescu and while the "Carbon" preoccupation is laughable on the part of hte "climate scientists", ie the dudes dressed in white coats on tv screens,
00:16 mircea_popescu nevertheless it's a fact that oxygen saturation in atmosphere has been dropping for the past coupla centuries.
00:16 mircea_popescu "fresh air" ain't quite as fresh as it used to be.
00:17 benkay ocean mining is a thing i plan to do when properly capitalized.
00:17 mircea_popescu to the tune of what, 100 trn ?
00:17 benkay har
00:17 benkay no, i think building robots
00:18 mircea_popescu yeah but you'll need a coupla aircraft carriers + a bunch of nuke subs
00:18 mircea_popescu just in case anyone gets uppity.
00:18 benkay for what now?
00:18 mircea_popescu protecting your exploration sites
00:19 mircea_popescu you never played starcraft ?
00:19 benkay o yeah
00:19 benkay i see i see
00:20 KRS-One starcraft ftw
00:20 mircea_popescu ok wise assets of wisdom, i have a stupid question.
00:20 mircea_popescu when i was a kid i loved a game, something like 3max or somesuch. it consisted basicalyl of this, you built robot metallic things, and fought over land an water against enemies.
00:21 mircea_popescu sort of way cooler dune, and it had hotseat multiplayer
00:21 mircea_popescu i could never find it again ;/ anyone know it ?
00:22 mircea_popescu you could pick "races", one was musashi
00:22 mircea_popescu it got bonus to planes iirc
00:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 304 @ 0.003289 = 0.9999 BTC [+]
00:23 nubbins` TBF when you keep making people and stop making trees, the level of O2 is obv going to decline ;p
00:23 nubbins` i for one welcome the arrival of intelligent plants
00:23 mircea_popescu iirc algae actually produce more oxygen than trees
00:24 mircea_popescu and in fact there's more of them today than 200 years ago, because we keep dumping all this organic and iron into the ocean
00:25 * nubbins` shakes head
00:25 nubbins` dead algae gobble oxygen
00:25 nubbins` this is why people are worried about massive algal blooms in the ocean
00:25 benkay nautilus minerals has apparently canceled their deep sea mining relationship with whichever tinpot country they were working with
00:26 mircea_popescu benkay those are shares to hold
00:26 mircea_popescu provided they'll actually not renege.
00:26 mircea_popescu currently it's riskier to hold fiat shares than it is to hold bitcoin shares
00:26 mircea_popescu provided you have the sense to identify which shares are worth holding in the first place.
00:27 benkay nautilus shares?
00:27 benkay i'd kill for some. or to work with them.
00:27 mircea_popescu they're a penny stock neh ?
00:28 benkay well, maybe holding stock is too much exposure
00:28 benkay but robots man! i've always had a hardon for robots. i'd like to get back to hacking on robots, and of larger scale too.
00:29 benkay yeah i bet nautilus needed a shitton of capital
00:29 benkay aren't all exploration stocks penny stocks?
00:29 benkay "we're gonna strike gooooold!"
00:29 mircea_popescu nah not really
00:30 mircea_popescu the way the exploration market works is, the governments holding explorable land spend some public money on support services for idiots. like i dunno, geologist support.
00:30 mircea_popescu the idiots, who are people who wish to strike it big, take all the risk and go camp in the wild, whittling their lives away fighing the impossible odds of nature.
00:30 mircea_popescu the smarter and luckier actually get exploration companies together, which have possibly valuable claims.
00:30 mircea_popescu once a claim is actually worth enough, the majors buy them out.
00:31 mircea_popescu pretty much all fields have a few majors in this business.
00:31 randomcloud How do you know all of this crap?
00:31 benkay there is one major difference with nautilus, however.
00:31 nubbins` the process of procuring a claim here is a bit of an odd thing
00:31 mircea_popescu randomcloud im a businessman. i know business. it's what i do.
00:31 nubbins` once a year the canadian government sells titles
00:32 nubbins` first come first serve
00:32 randomcloud Do you do stuff just in bitcoin or outside of it?
00:32 nubbins` the exploration companies pay bums to camp out in lineups for days/weeks
00:32 mircea_popescu randomcloud i used to have a well paid consultancy before bitcoin swallowed me.
00:32 the20year titles?
00:32 nubbins` land titles
00:32 mircea_popescu nubbins` aren't you describing the exact same thing ? :)
00:32 * nubbins` thinks
00:32 randomcloud Oh. That's pretty cool.
00:32 nubbins` yes, i am
00:33 mircea_popescu i kinda tried to give an abstraction, pretty much all countries with explorable land do some variant of it.
00:33 nubbins` nod
00:33 mircea_popescu possibly the russkis being the lulziest
00:33 nubbins` canada's north is the hot spot these days
00:34 nubbins` not just for minerals either, hence all the hand-waving and sabre-rattling around claims to the north pole
00:34 mircea_popescu a war over the np would be cool.
00:34 mircea_popescu "GERMANY INVADES SANTAS HOUSE!"
00:34 nubbins` canada, russia, denmark
00:34 benkay rendered irrelevant by deep sea mining though
00:34 mircea_popescu benkay sort-of.
00:34 nubbins` and the usa i guess, 'cos of alaska
00:34 mircea_popescu benkay amusingly, it's exactly the same thing, because of the huge capital barriers involved.
00:35 nubbins` fun fact, the easternmost point in north america is in denmark
00:35 benkay pick up nautilus for pennies on the dime when they go under, mircea_popescu
00:35 benkay they have sweet machines
00:36 mircea_popescu benkay whjen they go under it'd be too late.
00:36 mircea_popescu shareholders are last in line
00:36 mircea_popescu and moreover, even if they strike it big, repudiation is a major concern.
00:36 nubbins` https://twitter.com/MtGox
00:36 ozbot MtGox.com (MtGox) on Twitter
00:37 mircea_popescu lol they beleeted it all ?
00:37 benkay pardon, mp but repududiation?
00:37 benkay repudiation*
00:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [MS] 63 @ 0.0030064 = 0.1894 BTC [-] {7}
00:38 mircea_popescu repudiation is the unilateral rejection of a claim. like what companies do on havelock,
00:38 mircea_popescu o you owned shares ? fu.
00:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11899999 BTC [+]
00:39 nubbins` heh
00:39 benkay i'll settle for the machines.
00:39 nubbins` wait, those are companies?
00:40 nubbins` (where are those drumsticks...0
00:40 mircea_popescu nubbins` soyouthink some canadian penny stock is so much better ?
00:40 mircea_popescu who is going to send in the army, ww1 style, to protect your claims
00:40 mircea_popescu like the us protected rockefeller's ?
00:41 mircea_popescu the russians even weren't able to protect the claims of their oligarchs in cyprus
00:41 mircea_popescu and cyprus is a shitty island
00:41 benkay whole mining stack gets snatched up and taken over by the government.
00:41 mircea_popescu (obv the russian govt side would very much argue that they did a splendid job, protected it via diplomacy.)
00:41 mircea_popescu benkay canada has a history of stealing corps anyway.
00:42 nubbins` ^
00:42 mircea_popescu under the guise of "regulation" or w/e.
00:42 nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador_v._AbitibiBowater_Inc.
00:42 ozbot Newfoundland and Labrador v. AbitibiBowater Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
00:42 mircea_popescu basically, no armored divisions, no fiat investments.
00:42 nubbins` "Background" in particular
00:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00328 = 0.1968 BTC [-]
00:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.063 = 0.63 BTC [-]
00:44 mircea_popescu The company closed its paper mill in Stephenville, Newfoundland in 2005, and announced in 2008 that it would also close its plant in Grand Falls-Windsor. The Newfoundland and Labrador House of Assembly promptly passed legislation expropriating AbitibiBowater's assets in the province. This included the cancellation of “water and hydroelectric contracts and agreements” between the province and Abitibi, the cancellati
00:44 mircea_popescu on of ongoing legal proceedings Abitibi had against the province, and the blocking of access to Newfoundland’s courts by Abitibi.
00:44 mircea_popescu compare and contrast this with that idiot judge guy,
00:44 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/
00:44 ozbot The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
00:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.0008885 = 21.324 BTC [+] {2}
00:48 nubbins` "The government later learned it had accidentally expropriated the former mill property in central Newfoundland — and its environmental liabilities — as well."
00:49 nubbins` i picture a room full of suits furrowing their brows and wondering aloud if they can un-expropriate things
00:49 benkay worse than suits
00:49 benkay bureaucrats
00:49 mircea_popescu when in fact the room should have been full of suits suddenly realising that the guillotine is for them.
00:51 nubbins` if only
00:51 benkay the tanks'll have to change hands first.
00:51 nubbins` the guy in charge at the time was a real hothead
00:52 nubbins` there was some disagreement about federal money and he ordered the canadian flag be taken down from all provincial government buildings
00:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1189999 BTC [-]
00:52 nubbins` quite a stir that caused
00:52 mircea_popescu benkay i doubt that'll end up mattering. as it is right now, nobody cares who can ride horses or owns a pair of chaps
00:53 benkay you're saying we're headed clean back to horses?
00:53 r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt
00:53 gribble Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2622c373f57f74c8f9ceb5e6246b25d8274e96de15a86d5dcbbaa7d0
00:54 mircea_popescu benkay im saying that things such as nukes, and tanks, and so on are grossly unimportant anymore.
00:54 mircea_popescu if you read that facebook explanation of the thing in the ukraine, the guy clearly states that the police did not dare intervene in force chiefly becayse "we know where they live and would have killed them off one by one"
00:54 benkay more along the lines of "who can muster a pickup full of men with shotguns"
00:54 mircea_popescu this is true. "we know where you live". whats the tank good for ?
00:55 benkay task for lurking do-gooders: liberate the list of police names and addresses in all of your hometowns
00:56 benkay i betcha US cops use windows systems. shouldn't be hard.
00:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1451 @ 0.00088854 = 1.2893 BTC [+]
00:56 benkay just kidding, meta-nsa
00:56 * r3wt kicks in benkay's door
00:57 chetty The holding up a mirror to the police was pretty good
00:57 r3wt "freeze muthafucka!"
00:57 nubbins` chetty, i liked that
00:57 mircea_popescu benkay http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487027
00:57 nubbins` next thing ya know, this: http://www.mukamo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cryingcop10.jpg
00:58 mircea_popescu oh my game was "M.A.X: Mechanized Assault and Exploration"
00:58 mircea_popescu thank you person.
00:59 benkay makes me want to build a pay-to-play 4x webgame
00:59 benkay grah infinite possibly fun things to do
00:59 mircea_popescu impossibru
01:00 nubbins` set up a money exchange in eulora
01:00 nubbins` done like dinner
01:01 benkay nubbins`: more arcade style "put in some doge! some lite! some bit! get stuff to use!"
01:01 asciilifeform jurov: (perhaps belated) 'duplicate moduli' is exactly what it says on the box.
01:01 asciilifeform jurov: p1q1 = p2q2, for some p2q2
01:02 B007 I think you misunderstand the purpose of tanks and nukes, they are for foriegn wars
01:02 nubbins` ^ incidentally this is where "mind your Ps and Qs" came from
01:02 nubbins` B007, you sure about that?
01:02 B007 pretty sure, yeah
01:03 B007 people have always known where local cops lived
01:03 benkay the suburbanization of north america has really atomized people B007 it's not like the eu at all
01:04 benkay part of what makes this country so horrible
01:04 benkay all the damn space
01:05 B007 that doesn't make it horrible
01:05 nubbins` you think you've got it bad down there
01:05 r3wt i could have sworn it was the hipsters, high on their own farts dragging this country down.
01:05 mircea_popescu B007 your notion of foreign is broken tho.
01:05 mircea_popescu it used to mean shomething, 500 years ago. now i'm more likely to fuck a foreign chick than a local one.
01:05 B007 perhaps
01:05 mircea_popescu in fact, im not even sure i fucked a romanian this year.
01:05 nubbins` what does foreign even mean
01:06 nubbins` as a canadian, it doesn't mean jack shit to me
01:06 mircea_popescu so in this sense, all military operations are against people.
01:06 BitcoinSachs I was told there was a fair amount of BitcoinWife bashing going on in here.
01:06 nubbins` an icelandic man might feel differently
01:06 mircea_popescu hello BitcoinSachs
01:06 mircea_popescu you married to her ?
01:06 BitcoinSachs Nope, but she is a good friend of mine.
01:06 nubbins` lel
01:06 mircea_popescu good for her.
01:07 KRS-One i can't take it anymore
01:07 KRS-One .bait
01:07 ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cf78c2e244319fab96d52c4cd5962c4/tumblr_mup8huNbMI1r1zkrlo1_500.jpg
01:07 BitcoinSachs Bunch of cowards sitting behind a IRC chat talking shit on someone.
01:07 KRS-One ahhh
01:07 mircea_popescu BitcoinSachs do you know how to read the logs ?
01:07 B007 link at the top
01:07 mircea_popescu B007 yes but he comes from an environment where the obvious and common sense aren't either obvious or common.
01:07 BitcoinSachs I've already heard all I need to about the bullshit being said in here.
01:08 nubbins` lel x5
01:08 mircea_popescu BitcoinSachs do you know who you're making a fool of yourself in front of ?
01:08 nubbins` you've certainly got a bee in your bonnet
01:08 BitcoinSachs If you know who I am, you also are well aware I don't give a fuck.
01:08 B007 ok
01:08 nubbins` well, now that that's established
01:08 mircea_popescu so then what are you doing there ?
01:08 BitcoinSachs Attack one of my friends, and I will show up.
01:09 nubbins` and..... talk to people?
01:09 mircea_popescu i never heard of anyone posessed of this highschooler attitude mattering in any context, fwiw.
01:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00088854 = 6.0421 BTC [+]
01:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06529 = 0.1959 BTC [+]
01:09 mircea_popescu nubbins` i believe the expression is, "coward sitting behind a IRC chat talking shit on someone."
01:09 BitcoinSachs Says the half-tards smack talking someone not here because she makes them feel inferior.
01:09 mircea_popescu no, actually, the problem is she's retarded.
01:09 mircea_popescu and nobody is smack talking the retarded here.
01:10 asciilifeform what the hell is a bitcoinwife? i'm going back to sleep.
01:10 mircea_popescu we go in quite excruciating detail to document how and why they are retarded.
01:10 nubbins` what's a half-tard?
01:10 r3wt wait so who talked shit to the dudes wife here?
01:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nn!
01:10 mircea_popescu he's not married, he's just copumpkin ing all over her.
01:10 r3wt life->end
01:10 BitcoinSachs I feel bad for you guys. It's seriously sad.
01:11 * nubbins` facepalms
01:11 mircea_popescu BitcoinSachs so listen, if we apologize do you get laid tonight ?
01:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0653 = 0.3265 BTC [+]
01:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0032 = 0.2496 BTC [-]
01:11 r3wt lol, what did you say about his wife?
01:11 BitcoinSachs I don't come into IRC's often because it's usually for the depressed middle aged white man who doesn't get any anymore so they sit in a chat talking to each other. Similar to AOL chats back in the day.
01:11 BitcoinSachs Atleast now you morons don't pretend to be little girls.
01:11 mircea_popescu wait wait.
01:11 mircea_popescu you're not even white ?!
01:11 mircea_popescu nigga gtfo out of here.
01:11 r3wt no need for that mircea
01:12 benkay r3wt's a little boy, BitcoinSachs, mind his delicate mind.
01:12 mircea_popescu what, let the guy have fun.
01:12 r3wt lol, a little boy eh
01:13 benkay (nothing personal r3wt it's for teh lulz)
01:13 nubbins` BitcoinSachs from what i can tell, people were lelling at "the bitcoin wife" because she sits around on her ass in front of a computer all day, thinking that what she says matters
01:13 mircea_popescu r3wt how old are you anyway ? i forget.
01:13 r3wt nice to know you think of people in IRC and picture little boys. seems oddly fitting
01:13 nubbins` i'm not sure how that's so different from doing the same thing on IRC
01:13 nubbins` srsly, think about it
01:13 mircea_popescu aahha zing
01:13 r3wt i don't even know what the fuck you are even talking about half the time, none of you
01:13 benkay BitcoinSachs: tell me this isn't retarded http://imgur.com/elHxylT
01:13 mircea_popescu benkay does the darling know about the little boys ?
01:14 benkay oh goodness i don't really know *who* knows about the little boys at this point
01:14 mircea_popescu i suppose BitcoinSachs should meet BingoBoingo
01:14 asciilifeform is there a litecoinwife?
01:14 nubbins` dogecoinwife
01:14 BitcoinSachs whoever it is that keeps messaging me, I deleted it on accident. this is life.
01:14 mod6 hobonicklewife
01:14 mircea_popescu i think there's a dogewife doing doges somewhere on 4chan
01:14 mircea_popescu but it's a little... gross.
01:15 benkay man i am into that
01:15 benkay sweet doge action
01:15 nubbins` always kind of thought that referring to yourself as "the ____ wife" was a bit demeaning
01:15 r3wt when white kids pretend to be black on the internet
01:15 mircea_popescu nubbins` "the slutty wife" ?
01:15 benkay BitcoinSachs you gotta learn how to IRC, man.
01:15 BitcoinSachs I don't give a shit if you guys apologize or not. Just think how you would feel if someone turned an IRC into a mass group bashing of you. I doubt many of you would like that.
01:15 nubbins` the anything wife. the hockey wife
01:15 BitcoinSachs I mean, I get off on your hatred.
01:16 BitcoinSachs but I am a sick bastard like that.
01:16 nubbins` you get off on hatred?
01:16 mircea_popescu BitcoinSachs you have any idea how many have tried ?
01:16 nubbins` you poor, sad man
01:16 benkay BitcoinSachs: i get people all over my shit all the time
01:16 asciilifeform is the implication of $foowife something like 'married to the sea' ?
01:16 benkay in my actual face, though.
01:16 r3wt @Sacks: i agree. you will get no quarter from these other gentlemen though
01:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform who even knows that the proles mean when they use words.
01:16 nubbins` asciilifeform i think the implication is that they like to think of themselves in terms of their marriage
01:16 nubbins` honestly don't get it, not trolling
01:16 B007 http://i.imgur.com/K5hrMAb.jpg
01:16 mircea_popescu omfg r3wt this traitor to the holy cause of irc!
01:16 nubbins` "i am first and foremost a person who is married to a man"
01:16 mircea_popescu RUNNING DOG TO THE TWITTERHEADS
01:16 r3wt ^lawl
01:17 mircea_popescu nubbins` can you see "The MP wife" ?
01:17 nubbins` yes, but only because i have a vague understanding of the type of female company you keep
01:17 asciilifeform mpoe-pr ?
01:17 mircea_popescu i've done this plenty of times, "i'm with her". functionally the same thing
01:17 r3wt Reminds me of this cat who used to get on the forums at school and pretend to be a 18 year old filipina chick
01:18 mircea_popescu r3wt and a buncha doods went all crazy "protecting" her ?
01:18 nubbins` i'd probably divorce my wife if she started referring to herself exclusively in terms of me
01:18 nubbins` "yes hello, i'm mrs. jon keefe"
01:18 mircea_popescu nubbins` yeah but you're not a self absorbed asshole quite to the degree we are.
01:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.06535 = 1.1763 BTC [+]
01:18 asciilifeform cats with irc habits? now definitely time for me to sleep...
01:18 r3wt yeah i got banned from the forum for mocking he/she
01:18 nubbins` hmm, that's fair
01:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform a cat is the equiv of a chick
01:19 asciilifeform ah ah
01:19 mircea_popescu r3wt so now you know what's happening here.
01:19 BingoBoingo Goldman definitely doesn't seem to be what it used to be.
01:19 r3wt no hot ass filipina chick gets on a damn sports forum, there's no way in hell
01:19 nubbins` bitcoinman
01:19 benkay hey BingoBoingo we got someone for you to meet
01:19 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nono, the relation between this twerp and gs is about the same as the relation between the btcwife and btc.
01:19 nubbins` ^ heh
01:19 mircea_popescu purely based on stalking. like michael moore and important ppl.
01:19 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1652963/plain/)
01:19 benkay !b 2
01:19 benkay goddamnit
01:20 nubbins` gotta be quick if you wanna !b
01:20 mircea_popescu benkay you fail son.
01:20 benkay type slower assholes
01:20 mircea_popescu !b quick or !b broken!
01:20 nubbins` error: quick is not an integer
01:20 mircea_popescu fuck whoever just pmd me named assbot i deleted it
01:20 mircea_popescu such is lyf!
01:20 nubbins` hahah
01:20 mod6 haha
01:20 benkay ;;later tell BitcoinSachs where'd you go?
01:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:20 BingoBoingo Wait, people can't just adopt titles like "The wife of Bitcoin" or "The Sachs of Bitcoin" and it just automagically becomes true?
01:21 mircea_popescu hey guise, i have an idea!
01:21 mircea_popescu let's all make derpnames like nounbitcoin and bitcoinnoun
01:21 r3wt ;;later tell BitcoinSachs yolo
01:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:21 mircea_popescu that way the fact we're related to bitcoin will be quite clear to everyone!
01:21 BitcoinSachs I have nothing left to add to this trollbox. You guys all know how pathetic you are. I just wanted to swing by and make sure someone told you. Have a good night.
01:21 benkay coinverb
01:21 nubbins` BitcoinScrotums
01:21 r3wt yolo
01:21 mod6 lol
01:21 nubbins` BitcoinSachs: cheers, come back any time
01:22 nubbins` you seem interesting and well-spoken
01:22 benkay if a glacially slow typist.
01:22 mircea_popescu it's so sad the various fiat banks don't hold a trollbox where their top manageemnt could come by
01:22 nubbins` and not like a young man on the verge of tears
01:22 BitcoinBordello Puppies.txt
01:22 mircea_popescu and mock the plebs.
01:22 mircea_popescu tha'
01:22 r3wt you can catch me on the wallstreet journal and time magazine homeboy :D
01:22 mircea_popescu s what i'd have done during occupylolz
01:22 nubbins` eh, occupy was its own trollbox
01:22 benkay it's all the same thing, nubbins`
01:23 benkay the everyone
01:23 mircea_popescu nubbins` yes except the ws top brass didn't participate
01:23 benkay le mob
01:23 mircea_popescu imagine if dimon started mocking the womenz
01:23 BingoBoingo The actual 1% http://guestofaguest.com/new-york/instant-expert/the-original-one-percenter
01:24 mircea_popescu BitcoinSachs so what would we have heard of you for ? do you run a service of any import ? anything ?
01:24 nubbins` "Another reflex is to call a general assembly at the slightest sign of movement, and vote. This is a mistake. The business of voting and deciding a winner, is enough to turn the assembly into a nightmare, into a theater where all the various little pretenders to power confront each other. Here we suffer from the bad example of bourgeois parliaments. An assembly is not a place for decisions but for
01:24 nubbins` palaver, for free speech exercised without a goal. "
01:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16738 @ 0.0008896 = 14.8901 BTC [+] {2}
01:24 nubbins` occupy crowd should've listened to the invisible committee ;(
01:25 mircea_popescu nubbins` occupy crowd should have just gone for nudism.
01:25 mircea_popescu pretty much the one way a crowd of nobodies can disrupt modern society.
01:25 nubbins` so, unisex femen for american kids?
01:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6762 @ 0.00089009 = 6.0188 BTC [+]
01:26 mircea_popescu yup
01:26 mircea_popescu it would have swollen in numbers greatly
01:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0655 = 0.131 BTC [+]
01:26 nubbins` not the only thing that would have swollen
01:26 mircea_popescu indeed.
01:27 mircea_popescu still, if the people trying to get obama reelected had enough sense to only pay a few girls to get it all started, judghing correctly the white knight idiocy of the frustrated male will do the rest
01:27 mircea_popescu they could have also had the sense to only hire gangbang veterans.
01:27 mircea_popescu a woman can take about a thousand cocks a day, if she's any good at it.
01:27 nubbins` sponsored by astroglide
01:28 mircea_popescu definitely.
01:28 mircea_popescu astroglide could have just used crop treatment helicopters to dump gallons of lube on the crowd
01:28 mircea_popescu now THAT would have been a problem for wall street.
01:29 mircea_popescu o look at that, we lost buttcoinsecks.
01:29 BingoBoingo http://oglaf.com/deincarnation/4/
01:29 ozbot Deincarnation
01:29 mircea_popescu win.
01:30 nubbins` but rage against the popular music group tells me that fear is my only god
01:31 mircea_popescu waitwut
01:31 mircea_popescu anyway, for the inquiring minds that wish to know : yesterday i had spinach in bechamel with small shrimps,
01:31 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqFprD6qIs
01:31 ozbot Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube
01:31 mircea_popescu and today i'm baking a pumpkin and will have it with tenderloin!
01:31 nubbins` i didn't know you baked
01:32 mircea_popescu well im baking in the sense i'm running bitbet.
01:32 * nubbins` nods
01:32 nubbins` i should start a "bitcoin husband" blog
01:32 mircea_popescu bitcoinwife is doing the work
01:32 nubbins` and just yammer about the meats i grind etc
01:32 mircea_popescu husbandry. meats. grinding.
01:33 mircea_popescu this sounds a little porny dontchathink?
01:33 nubbins` my entire life is a euphemism
01:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0032 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2}
01:34 mircea_popescu nubbins` but srsly, it's not a bad idea.
01:34 mircea_popescu not that many people make moose sausage, and when i mentioned it to chetty she was like... nom.
01:36 cazalla i should make rabbit sausage
01:36 mircea_popescu check it out, "The rest of this article fill look"
01:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform did you know nick szabo has a w/f issue ?
01:37 mircea_popescu this'd be by far the most important property too look for in that entire "textual analysis" story.
01:37 cazalla have rabbits, have sausage add on thingo for the kitchenaid
01:38 mircea_popescu cazalla can't hurt.
01:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19012 @ 0.00088843 = 16.8908 BTC [-]
01:38 nubbins` actually, my mother called earlier today, she has two moose roasts at the house for me
01:38 chetty oh somebody said moose sausage ...drool
01:39 cazalla what is moose like? never seen it for sale here in aus
01:39 mircea_popescu moose is a very large cow.
01:39 nubbins` very lean
01:39 nubbins` like beef, bit more stringy/gamey
01:39 chetty venison ++
01:39 nubbins` it's ncie
01:39 cazalla rabbit is lean
01:39 nubbins` *nice
01:40 cazalla i raise these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_white_rabbit
01:40 nubbins` fun
01:40 nubbins` interesting fact, you'd die if all you ate was rabbit
01:40 cazalla not true
01:40 cazalla you eat the brains in addition to the meat if it comes to that
01:41 nubbins` sure, yeah
01:41 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsVDb3kqnnI < this is cazalla
01:41 ozbot Woman Chased By Cute Bunny Rabbits - YouTube
01:41 nubbins` implication was only eating the meat
01:41 cazalla top kek
01:41 mircea_popescu eating the brains of any mammal is dangerous
01:41 nubbins` but after a few days you'd be at a point where you're willing to cut the fat off your own body to eat
01:41 mircea_popescu in that we never know wtf prions they got.
01:42 mircea_popescu nubbins` a few days ? i fasted for days. who cares.
01:42 nubbins` muslims
01:42 nubbins` i guess
01:42 cazalla yes i know, which is why i don't eat them but if you only had rabbit to eat, you'd need to eat the brain and organs to survive otherwise rabbit starvation as nubbins referred to
01:42 cazalla but if you have a balanced diet, you can eat as much rabbit as you want
01:43 nubbins` hm, was mentioning this in -otc because luke was there, but you guys might find this interesting as well
01:43 cazalla every 2nd person tells me about this rabbit starvation bs
01:43 nubbins` so i've been wanting to silkscreen, by hand, a book of text for some time now
01:43 nubbins` nice art paper, hand-printed and bound
01:43 nubbins` one of my friends is greek, and really into religious texts
01:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]
01:44 mircea_popescu cazalla i think i started it in here. but anyway, obviously, eat some fish oil or w/e, it's resolvable.
01:44 nubbins` so we're going to produce a copy of the gospel according to mark, with scriptio continua greek and modern english on opposing pages
01:44 cazalla mircea_popescu: i hear it from others IRL
01:44 nubbins` calling it "the gospel not according to mark" (because it's not according to him), and omitting the resurrection entirely (as it wasn't in the original)
01:44 cazalla as long as you have a source of fat (and I have chickens for the eggs too), it's not an issue to eat lots of rabbit meat
01:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 704 @ 0.0032 = 2.2528 BTC [-]
01:45 nubbins` exciting stuff, although nerdy enough that i don't think anyone besides the two of us will be interested
01:45 mircea_popescu cazalla butter'd be better tbh. i almost always cook rabbit in butter.
01:46 nubbins` who knows, maybe we can sell a copy to the university library
01:46 mircea_popescu nubbins` fortunately for you, there exists a large contingent of themarkwifes on twitter, reddit etc
01:46 mircea_popescu seeing how tjhey don't understand what anything is, they may just as well buy it.
01:46 * nubbins` nods
01:47 davout cutie -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483109.0;topicseen
01:47 nubbins` anyway, i was interested to learn that in the original gospel of mark, jesus dies and that's the end of the fucking book
01:47 nubbins` no resurrection, none of that stuff
01:47 mircea_popescu benkay "There are over 400 collectively worth more than $1.5 billion in operation today and their numbers are increasingly rapidly."
01:47 mircea_popescu there, there's a future.
01:47 mircea_popescu lol
01:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
01:48 nubbins` "Seismologists have set up instrumentation for when Tux has a tantrum."
01:48 nubbins` lel, tsk tsk
01:48 nubbins` guy's not even that fat
01:49 mircea_popescu he's bad fat.
01:49 midnightmagic cazalla: Just counter with the fact that virtually any rabbit everywhere that doesn't carry a toxic heavy metal load or weird foreign exotic parasites can be eaten.
01:49 mircea_popescu there's this distinction i make between people who are genuinely fat and people who are visibly fastfood fat.
01:49 midnightmagic "Try that with an elk."
01:49 mircea_popescu midnightmagic rabbits carry human able parasites ?
01:50 nubbins` european elk or north american elk?
01:50 nubbins` i.e. moose or wapiti?
01:51 midnightmagic mircea_popescu: None that I'm specifically aware of, but my farmer friends tell me it's possible.
01:51 chetty rabbits can carry a bacteria thats kinda like plague
01:51 mircea_popescu "The current center of this activity is Namibia, with offshore reserves estimated at more than 1.5 billion carats." << look at that, almost one diamond for each marrigeable girl!
01:51 midnightmagic nubbins`: N.A.
01:51 mircea_popescu now where to find the 10k dollars to pay for all the rings
01:51 nubbins` midnightmagic: i've eaten those
01:51 midnightmagic nubbins`: Hopefully it was cooked well! :-)
01:51 mircea_popescu chetty pest is universal, much like e colli
01:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.0031995 = 0.1632 BTC [-]
01:52 nubbins` ground and cooked well-done :D
01:52 nubbins` have also eaten the other type, as we were discussing earlier
01:53 nubbins` moose makes good stew
01:53 midnightmagic nubbins`: Recommend caribou sausage. So.. good..
01:53 nubbins` now caribou, i haven't had
01:53 nubbins` uh, how the fuck is it 3:30am?
01:53 nubbins` i'm going to bed
01:54 nubbins` peace
01:55 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 349 @ 0.002 = 0.698 BTC [-]
01:55 mircea_popescu benkay o look at that, nautilus actually focuses on mining extinct black smokers
01:55 mircea_popescu that's a brilliant idea.
01:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1300 @ 0.00015004 = 0.1951 BTC [-] {9}
01:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1189999 BTC [-]
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0655 = 0.4585 BTC [+]
02:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
02:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119495 = 0.239 BTC [+] {2}
02:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119999 = 0.24 BTC [+]
02:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00089009 = 6.7647 BTC [+] {2}
02:10 benkay jesus christ man
02:11 benkay mircea_popescu i'm not about to just go work for some crazy exploration company
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 401 @ 0.00321496 = 1.2892 BTC [-] {2}
02:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]
02:11 benkay and i at least spend five minutes evaluating markets into which i want to get
02:12 benkay yeah 400 robots under the sea worth a stupid amount of money
02:12 benkay i can defo make some sea robutts
02:14 mircea_popescu lol wut ?
02:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00089009 = 10.236 BTC [+]
02:19 mircea_popescu lmao i just owned @bitcoin. and reddit.
02:19 mircea_popescu @Bitcoin · 48m Mt. Gox @MtGox DELETES everything from their twitter account http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yrqpm/mtgox_deletes_all_tweets_from_their_twitter_feed/
02:19 mircea_popescu How about next time you RT https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437823752571588608 instead of being an ass. @Bitcoin @MtGox DELETES everything from their twitter account.
02:20 mircea_popescu must suck to exist as a news thing and be constantly hours, days, years late.
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0605005 = 0.242 BTC [+] {2}
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.103999 = 0.208 BTC [+]
02:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1160009 = 0.464 BTC [-]
02:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11999 BTC [+]
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00460033 = 0.2208 BTC [-] {5}
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 156 @ 0.0032 = 0.4992 BTC [-] {2}
02:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.119997 BTC [+]
02:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00499999 = 0.105 BTC [+] {2}
02:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02092199 = 0.1046 BTC [-] {4}
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02:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0032 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}
03:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.08389498 = 0.7551 BTC [+] {3}
03:01 Mats_cd03 nubbins`: I'd buy a copy
03:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00089045 = 6.2332 BTC [+] {2}
03:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 900 @ 0.003292 = 2.9628 BTC [+]
03:06 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
03:06 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 564.72, Best ask: 565.73, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 563.28, 24 hour volume: 38005.11725061, 24 hour low: 551.0, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 597.953787271
03:08 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
03:08 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 167.01, vol: 75617.20805633 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 565.18, vol: 37959.43040405 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 568.6, vol: 18409.36629 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 576.0, vol: 26575.00530557 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 575.0, vol: 303.90218819 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 594.083025, vol: 13228.16500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 394.500944754
03:08 mircea_popescu lawl. just not under 150 yet huh.
03:08 BingoBoingo Well, not under 150 at the moment.
03:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00478995 = 0.3592 BTC [+] {10}
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03:26 Vexual thats food for thought
03:27 Vexual if you're bulimic
03:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00333 = 0.4196 BTC [+]
03:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00333 = 3.33 BTC [+]
03:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3402 @ 0.00333 = 11.3287 BTC [+]
03:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]
03:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17061 @ 0.00088899 = 15.1671 BTC [-] {4}
03:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.00021 = 1.05 BTC [+]
03:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00088958 = 10.586 BTC [+]
03:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00333 = 0.2398 BTC [+]
03:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00333 = 0.999 BTC [+]
03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00333 = 0.2298 BTC [+]
03:44 Vexual neobee open?
03:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.0730002 = 0.146 BTC [-] {2}
03:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00333287 = 0.7632 BTC [+] {2}
03:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2868 @ 0.00333333 = 9.56 BTC [+]
03:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.00335631 = 0.2853 BTC [+] {3}
04:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00089121 = 18.0916 BTC [+] {3}
04:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00349 = 0.3316 BTC [+]
04:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.00349 = 1.7625 BTC [+] {2}
04:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00349 = 0.2024 BTC [+]
04:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3500 @ 0.00349 = 12.215 BTC [+] {2}
04:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 316 @ 0.00349 = 1.1028 BTC [+] {2}
04:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
04:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
04:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06100005 = 0.183 BTC [-]
04:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.102 = 0.306 BTC [-]
04:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
04:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10047 @ 0.00089418 = 8.9838 BTC [+] {2}
04:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00349 = 0.5235 BTC [+] {2}
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 163 @ 0.00348899 = 0.5687 BTC [-] {3}
04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003489 = 0.3315 BTC [+] {2}
04:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 543 @ 0.003489 = 1.8945 BTC [+]
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04:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1199988 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}
04:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49100012 BTC [-]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2295 @ 0.00349 = 8.0096 BTC [+]
04:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00349 = 0.4886 BTC [+]
04:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 358 @ 0.00349 = 1.2494 BTC [+] {3}
04:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00089122 = 3.654 BTC [-]
04:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00349 = 0.1187 BTC [+]
04:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 270 @ 0.00499999 = 1.35 BTC [+] {4}
04:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 386 @ 0.00349 = 1.3471 BTC [+] {2}
05:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 204 @ 0.0008578 = 0.175 BTC [-]
05:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00349 = 0.3665 BTC [+]
05:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 147 @ 0.00349 = 0.513 BTC [+] {2}
05:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49100012 BTC [-]
05:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4000 @ 0.00021 = 0.84 BTC [+]
05:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.00069999 = 1.75 BTC [-]
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4000 @ 0.00021 = 0.84 BTC [+]
05:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 839 @ 0.00349 = 2.9281 BTC [+] {2}
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1560 @ 0.00350045 = 5.4607 BTC [+] {5}
05:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
05:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0035788 = 0.1181 BTC [-] {2}
05:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00350003 = 0.7 BTC [-] {2}
05:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00350003 = 1.33 BTC [-] {2}
05:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00350005 = 0.35 BTC [+] {2}
05:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00369634 = 0.1922 BTC [+] {2}
05:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-]
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00384892 = 0.1001 BTC [+] {2}
05:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00089497 = 5.8182 BTC [+]
05:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.003849 = 0.3272 BTC [+]
05:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00385234 = 0.262 BTC [+] {2}
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7133 @ 0.00089653 = 6.3949 BTC [+] {2}
05:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0038699 = 0.1354 BTC [+] {3}
05:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1741 BTC [+] {3}
05:58 jurov morning
05:58 jurov mircea_popescu: when will the mpoe bot go back?
05:58 jurov *come back
05:58 jurov lol
05:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1896 BTC [+] {3}
06:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 313 @ 0.00386999 = 1.2113 BTC [+] {2}
06:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 142 @ 0.00372943 = 0.5296 BTC [-] {6}
06:04 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-was-written-by-the-retarded-part-ii/
06:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [+]
06:08 jurov oh that. iconsidered writing about, too..but everyone accepts the accounts dysfunctionality as completely normal thing
06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1815 @ 0.00386999 = 7.024 BTC [+] {4}
06:10 jurov should write about such things anyway
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00387 = 0.387 BTC [+]
06:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-]
06:17 ozbot Bitcoin was written by the retarded, part II pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
06:18 Duffer1 .d
06:20 ozbot 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 731 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.9186% in 4d 1h 29m 47s
06:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49010002 = 0.9802 BTC [-] {2}
06:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]
06:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00387 = 1.3545 BTC [+]
06:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00387 = 0.8901 BTC [+]
06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.11999995 = 2.28 BTC [+] {2}
06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6160 @ 0.00016388 = 1.0095 BTC [+] {7}
06:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00387 = 0.1935 BTC [+]
06:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 148 @ 0.00460028 = 0.6808 BTC [-] {5}
06:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4033 @ 0.00387 = 15.6077 BTC [+] {4}
06:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 659 @ 0.00387 = 2.5503 BTC [+] {4}
06:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]
06:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1420 @ 0.00387 = 5.4954 BTC [+] {3}
06:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02060001 = 0.412 BTC [-] {5}
06:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02022221 = 0.4651 BTC [-] {12}
06:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 242 @ 0.00389 = 0.9414 BTC [+] {3}
06:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00386999 = 0.3909 BTC [-] {2}
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5473 @ 0.0008979 = 4.9142 BTC [+] {2}
06:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [+]
06:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 590 @ 0.0038 = 2.242 BTC [-]
06:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.00379 = 0.9892 BTC [-] {2}
06:56 jurov http://imgur.com/a/uL6Lw neobee, the savior of poor cypriots
06:56 ozbot Neo Building - Imgur
06:56 jurov ThickAsThieves: i can, like, really go there and exchange bitcoins or do anything meaningful?
06:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.12 = 1.92 BTC [+]
06:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00379 = 0.5685 BTC [-]
07:00 mircea_popescu jurov i grilled him yest.
07:00 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#523512
07:00 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
07:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00379046 = 0.2426 BTC [+] {2}
07:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0038 = 0.3344 BTC [+]
07:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0038 = 1.14 BTC [+] {3}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00377 = 1.0104 BTC [-]
07:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 276 @ 0.0038 = 1.0488 BTC [+] {2}
07:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.12 = 1.32 BTC [+]
07:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00379766 = 0.7709 BTC [-] {3}
07:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003795 = 0.3605 BTC [-]
07:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.1197693 = 1.557 BTC [-] {2}
07:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11631101 = 0.3489 BTC [-]
07:26 cazalla he is NEO, you are like the buzzing of flies to him
07:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16167 @ 0.00089656 = 14.4947 BTC [-]
07:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.003795 = 0.2694 BTC [-]
07:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 225 @ 0.0038 = 0.855 BTC [+] {2}
07:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0038589 = 0.3936 BTC [+] {2}
07:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 528 @ 0.00383988 = 2.0275 BTC [-] {4}
07:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00385 = 0.1656 BTC [-] {2}
07:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [+]
07:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0038576 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}
07:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.063 = 0.126 BTC [+]
07:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10101 = 0.202 BTC [-]
07:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-]
07:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.12 = 3 BTC [+]
07:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00089305 = 21.969 BTC [-] {5}
07:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.003859 = 0.3203 BTC [+] {2}
07:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48203 = 4.8203 BTC [-] {2}
07:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00380111 = 1.0187 BTC [-] {2}
07:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [+]
07:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 259 @ 0.00386 = 0.9997 BTC [+]
07:58 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/HistOpinion/status/437927458810368000/photo/1/large
07:58 ozbot Twitter / HistOpinion: US Apr '38: Do you believe, ...
07:58 mircea_popescu what do executives know
07:58 mircea_popescu they're in on it!
07:58 mircea_popescu etc
07:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00386 = 0.193 BTC [+]
08:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00385879 = 0.9415 BTC [+] {2}
08:04 ThickAsThieves what's an economic life?
08:05 ThickAsThieves and how is "partly" an acceptible answer to a question that contains "mostly"
08:06 ThickAsThieves maybe shoulda just been Yes, Probably, Possibly, No
08:07 ThickAsThieves also, why truck drivers?
08:07 ThickAsThieves they are an awkward representative, being that they are blue collar middle/upper-middle class
08:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.003865 = 0.1971 BTC [+] {3}
08:09 random_cat ro invest: ponzi of the day?
08:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 113 @ 0.00385535 = 0.4357 BTC [-] {2}
08:09 ThickAsThieves if you have to ask, then you already know the answer :)
08:10 ThickAsThieves "If you claim that for some reason that it would be better for people to invest in stocks or something else on mpex then doing carefully selection on what investments and where on other plattfors or avoid investing in anything at all if they don't have the correct knoledge. Then you may kindly explain why and how it would be better for the avg investors as im pretty sure most of them
08:10 ThickAsThieves wouldent even have 30 btc so how do you even think they would even be in the target group for your stockexchange, is just redicules."
08:10 ThickAsThieves so much ouch
08:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.003865 = 0.7614 BTC [+]
08:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.003865 = 0.6996 BTC [+]
08:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 353 @ 0.003865 = 1.3643 BTC [+] {3}
08:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 260 @ 0.00385 = 1.001 BTC [-]
08:17 ThickAsThieves "Neo Bee, I hope you are the AOL of Bitcoin, and not the next iteration of Mtgox." lol
08:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00386499 = 0.2203 BTC [+] {2}
08:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]
08:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11533 @ 0.00089556 = 10.3285 BTC [+] {3}
08:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6267 @ 0.00089798 = 5.6276 BTC [+]
08:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00386498 = 0.2242 BTC [-]
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00386499 = 0.2937 BTC [+] {2}
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.482 BTC [-]
08:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 194 @ 0.00386397 = 0.7496 BTC [-]
08:27 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i have no idea
08:27 mircea_popescu random_cat what's that even ?
08:29 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i'd guess they had easier access to a bunch of truck drivers ?
08:29 mircea_popescu anyway, where's the quote from ? forum ?
08:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.0055 = 0.231 BTC
08:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00382 = 3.82 BTC [-] {2}
08:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00386393 = 0.1005 BTC [+] {2}
08:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.00382 = 0.997 BTC [-]
08:42 random_cat mircea: apparently the operator is looking for "investors" and posted a bitcointalk thread which got picked up by blockchain.info... see https://ro-invest.com/
08:42 random_cat oic, the bitcointalk thread is actually a link with a referrer code
08:42 random_cat curiouser and curiouser
08:43 dexX7 wow 13 % daily, must be legit
08:43 random_cat hell, perhaps it is merely a "send me your coin" site
08:44 ThickAsThieves perhaps?
08:44 * random_cat shrugs
08:44 random_cat i was generously calling it a ponzi
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.00386398 = 0.4985 BTC [+]
08:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.12 = 3.12 BTC [+] {3}
08:47 mircea_popescu random_cat probably ciuciu resurected.
08:48 mircea_popescu so firefox is making a 25 dolla phone, facebook is hoping to spin the watsap disaster into a phone...
08:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00380079 = 4.0668 BTC [-] {4}
08:49 mircea_popescu what's with people and this obsession for phones
08:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1205 = 0.6025 BTC [+]
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.12673333 = 2.6614 BTC [+] {3}
08:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.00386398 = 1.1901 BTC [+]
08:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003881 = 0.1941 BTC [+]
08:54 mircea_popescu incredible how the bitcoin foundation rats nest sticks together to the very end.
08:54 mircea_popescu "This is actually good news. I applaud Mark and the MtGox team for making the right decision as I had to do the same. Speaking very lengthy to Mark and the team over the weekend, I see good news on the horizon for people who have funds stuck in MtGox (I also have funds in MtGox stuck)" < shrem
08:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1055 @ 0.003885 = 4.0987 BTC [+] {3}
08:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-]
08:55 Duffer1 farewell fellatio
08:55 Duffer1 i hate politics
08:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.0008968 = 16.0976 BTC [-]
08:56 mircea_popescu "Colorado Girl Scouts Not Allowed To Sell Cookies Outside Pot Shops"
08:56 mircea_popescu win.
08:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003885 = 0.272 BTC [+]
08:58 Duffer1 they had to come up with some local ordinance since a couple of them got clever and sold out - can't allow little girls hanging around stoners to become popular
08:59 mircea_popescu im guessing the only way to safeguard the nation is banning girlscout cookie sales, girls, scouts and cookies.
08:59 Duffer1 sounds reasonable
08:59 mircea_popescu so conn just imploded
09:00 jurov girl schouts must be protected from potheads
09:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00389 = 0.1945 BTC [+] {2}
09:00 jurov cuz national security or whatever
09:00 mircea_popescu apparently selling couches on credit to people who have horrible credit ratings in the hopes they'll find change in the very couches to pay for the couches didn't work out
09:00 mircea_popescu seems you need rich friends to be able to use couches that way.
09:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 440 @ 0.00389 = 1.7116 BTC [+] {2}
09:04 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> what's with people and this obsession for phones /// cuz proles don't buy desktops anymore
09:05 mircea_popescu heresy.
09:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.16230094 = 1.623 BTC [-]
09:05 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/niubi/status/437948979872284672 epic shit.
09:06 mircea_popescu "What do u call selfie taken by someone dedicated to overcoming selfhood ?"
09:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.1289995 = 0.258 BTC [+] {2}
09:09 ThickAsThieves i guess reddit discovered Havelock last night...
09:09 mircea_popescu "As we were letting you know back on the 15th of May 2013, two models filled lawsuits against Totem Entertainment and Totem Front Office alleging we were using their images without their authorization.
09:09 mircea_popescu Despite they both signed a contract and have been paid, we've been ordered by a French judge to cease using their images and to terminate any licencing of them. We appealed from that decision but meanwhile we have to comply with the judge's order."
09:09 mircea_popescu fucking french judges.
09:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 31 @ 0.00339999 = 0.1054 BTC [+] {2}
09:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.00084029 = 0.4201 BTC [-] {3}
09:12 ThickAsThieves "Gmail adds unsubscribe button to rid your inbox of promotions" nice feature
09:12 mircea_popescu http://webmasters.totemcash.com/top100.php << meanwhile check out that sadness. one guy laundering money and $150 a month to make the top 100.
09:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00388 = 0.485 BTC [-] {3}
09:13 ThickAsThieves what's a virtuagirl?
09:14 mircea_popescu and from the anals of stupid : chick that identifies as "Digital @NBC Owned Television Stations. I tweet media, tech & startups. California transplant, opinions are mine." wants to know if this pic is legit : "So.. I got this WhatsApp message from one of my contacts this morning, real thing? pic.twitter.com/mLAMw9hmUY "
09:14 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves prolly some webcam stuff.
09:14 mircea_popescu most porn today is webcams because how the fuck are you going to get paid for a jpeg
09:14 ThickAsThieves seems like a desktop widget of a nudie gif
09:14 ThickAsThieves old school stuff
09:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00388 = 0.1086 BTC [-] {2}
09:15 mircea_popescu wow they charge for that ?
09:15 the20year I heard that Bill gates is buying AOL out and if you have AOL and windows they will pay you $5,000 as long as you forward the message
09:15 mircea_popescu the20year you're now ready to work for NBC as a social media, tech and start-ups specialist.
09:16 mircea_popescu WomenzInTeach!
09:16 ThickAsThieves zuckerberg keynote today maybe he can confirm
09:16 ThickAsThieves lol
09:17 mircea_popescu she should defo ask him.
09:17 mircea_popescu "Mr Mike like totally great stuff can you tell me like is it true about the forwarding ?"
09:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.12916363 = 1.4208 BTC [+] {2}
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12999 = 0.52 BTC [+]
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.08389499 = 0.3356 BTC [+] {2}
09:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00388 = 0.776 BTC [-]
09:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.00388322 = 0.8465 BTC [+] {2}
09:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1322 @ 0.00016389 = 0.2167 BTC [+]
09:32 Apocalyptic "<epscy> maybe the foundation should run an insurance scheme, if they run the satoshi client and follow best practices the foundation would pay out for any losses due to bugs in the software"
09:32 Apocalyptic eps
09:32 Apocalyptic err... derp of the day ?
09:32 BingoBoingo They day is young, bigger derps are inevitable
09:32 ThickAsThieves ^
09:32 mircea_popescu ahahaha best idea ever.
09:33 mircea_popescu no srsly, they should. make usagi an officer.
09:33 Diablo-D3 wat
09:33 Apocalyptic "<epscy> i'm only half joking" // gets epic
09:33 Diablo-D3 whatever happened to that guy anyhow
09:33 Diablo-D3 because he seems to have finally left when he realized that he couldnt scam money out of DMC
09:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1822 @ 0.00016389 = 0.2986 BTC [+]
09:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003888 = 0.5832 BTC [+] {2}
09:35 mircea_popescu i think he finally left once he realised he couldn't shove his guitar or somesuch
09:35 mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437958867012444161
09:35 ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @MichaelKitces @businessinsider ...
09:35 mircea_popescu curious if famous anal-ist takes the challenge.
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.003888 = 1.2403 BTC [+] {3}
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.12987362 = 2.078 BTC [-] {5}
09:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.16230094 = 8.115 BTC [-]
09:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00089761 = 22.9339 BTC [+] {4}
09:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 986 @ 0.00389 = 3.8355 BTC [+]
09:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1030 @ 0.0039 = 4.017 BTC [+] {2}
09:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.12999995 = 2.73 BTC [+] {3}
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0039 = 3.9 BTC [+]
09:42 mircea_popescu ;;tslbn
09:42 gribble Error: "tslbn" is not a valid command.
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1071 @ 0.00382 = 4.0912 BTC [-] {2}
09:42 mircea_popescu ;;tslb
09:42 gribble Time since last block: 16 minutes and 49 seconds
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 625 @ 0.00016389 = 0.1024 BTC [+]
09:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]
09:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00389 = 0.5368 BTC [-]
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00389 = 0.3968 BTC [-] {2}
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 44 @ 0.06101534 = 2.6847 BTC [-] {6}
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00388931 = 0.1128 BTC [-] {2}
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06035 = 0.3621 BTC [-] {3}
09:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 248 @ 0.00388 = 0.9622 BTC [-]
09:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [+]
10:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 253 @ 0.00382 = 0.9665 BTC [-]
10:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00389 = 0.5835 BTC [+]
10:03 davout ;;later tell benkay interdasted in some delicious janos starker?
10:03 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.124 BTC [-]
10:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12200001 = 0.488 BTC [-]
10:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00388 = 0.388 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.122 = 0.732 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.00388 = 0.5044 BTC [-] {2}
10:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0039 = 0.195 BTC [+]
10:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.0038999 = 0.2925 BTC [-]
10:14 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482989.msg5337539#msg5337539
10:14 ozbot [Cryptostocks]Coinex.io they just removed all traces about there offer at CS
10:14 mircea_popescu check out ThickAsThieves owning the field...
10:14 ThickAsThieves had an mp(oe-pr) up my butt i guess
10:16 mircea_popescu particularly lulzy set of idiots there anyhow
10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00381428 = 1.335 BTC [-] {2}
10:17 ThickAsThieves i love how thy then tries to say english is not his first language
10:17 ThickAsThieves you don't learn a second language and spell that terribly
10:18 ThickAsThieves "there's nothing wrong with my education you can't get much higher actually"
10:18 ThickAsThieves "newcummers"
10:18 ThickAsThieves lol
10:18 ThickAsThieves "Paying 30 btc to get access to trading on mpex would be a huge misstake for 99.99% of all people, especially as some got access to that for free in the beginning."
10:18 ThickAsThieves yet he uses bitcoin
10:20 mircea_popescu "my brain doesn't work because english is not my first language"
10:20 mircea_popescu seems legit.
10:20 jurov "These are values uplifted by bandits, not brethren." ooooh so romantic "DDD
10:21 mircea_popescu he really got something in there.
10:22 ThickAsThieves bandit sounded better than burglar :)
10:22 mircea_popescu i can't discern whether shrem defending mtgox on twitter is worse for shrem or worse for mtgox.
10:23 ThickAsThieves tough one
10:23 jurov for both, that's synergy
10:23 mircea_popescu what's the worse situation, for a fraudster to associate with a drug dealer or vice versa ?
10:23 ThickAsThieves when will they catch Ver on something?
10:24 mircea_popescu (i get that neither are very good at their respective thing, but still, discussing in principle)
10:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 680 @ 0.00389678 = 2.6498 BTC [+] {4}
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.12899998 = 1.032 BTC [+]
10:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.0039 = 0.2457 BTC [+]
10:26 mircea_popescu sooo... egypt cabinet resigns, new military dictatorship brewing ?
10:26 mircea_popescu country comes back to what it was, only with 30 years younger mubarak
10:26 mircea_popescu and i guess no ak47-ing of the anwar sadat this time
10:27 Apocalyptic <ThickAsThieves> when will they catch Ver on something? // I'm waiting for Vessenes
10:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.0039 = 0.2769 BTC [+] {3}
10:28 ThickAsThieves vessenes seems to have proven slipperyness
10:28 mircea_popescu the teflon don of bitcoin.
10:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.0039 = 0.975 BTC [+]
10:29 mircea_popescu "I've said it before, but if Barack Obama had been president instead of Ronald Reagan, I'd still be a Soviet Citizen." ~Kasparov
10:30 mircea_popescu it's kind of funny that US govt official policy back in the 80s, such as "government is bad generally and big government worse" etc is today regarded as fringe opinion.
10:31 asciilifeform 'gorbama.'
10:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1280 @ 0.0039 = 4.992 BTC [+] {3}
10:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform at least gorby had his fun moments.
10:32 mircea_popescu was it him or yeltsin that actually fired at the duma ?
10:32 mircea_popescu it was yeltsin wasn't it.
10:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.0039 = 0.3666 BTC [+] {4}
10:32 BingoBoingo Sounds like a Yeltsin thing to do.
10:33 mircea_popescu got plastered one night, ordered the artillery out the next morning
10:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnz9lOXQP3w
10:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.004879 = 0.1366 BTC [+]
10:37 mircea_popescu a nice
10:37 mircea_popescu lol i like that white lada there
10:38 mircea_popescu one thing he did well was the choice of successor.
10:38 mircea_popescu putin is probably the strongest leader russia had since roughly speaking ivan
10:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 214 @ 0.00394 = 0.8432 BTC [+] {2}
10:38 asciilifeform 'Му sister, do you still recall, как Ельцин бился мордой в пол…' (sf writer V. Pelevin)
10:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 286 @ 0.00394 = 1.1268 BTC [+] {4}
10:39 mircea_popescu lol
10:40 KRS-One http://www.kirainet.com/english/women-vending-machine/
10:40 KRS-One Can't wait for the U.S. to get these
10:41 ozbot » Women vending machine Kirainet.com – A geek in Japan
10:41 KRS-One Pretty good deal for $1 USD
10:41 KRS-One .bait
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11663173 = 0.4665 BTC [-] {2}
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00394375 = 0.4614 BTC [+] {4}
10:41 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbal5vNj4T1qznrwro1_500.jpg
10:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, if you're at all curious, by very far the best contemporary employ of the romanian equivalent of mat is this bunch of kids making a cartoon.
10:42 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iCLCJifhfQ
10:42 ozbot RObotzi.S01.Ep.1.Vin - YouTube
10:42 mircea_popescu it is utterly untranslatable, but it is also the only cultural product of contemporary romania that i'd bother mention.
10:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003948 = 0.2211 BTC [+] {2}
10:43 asciilifeform neato
10:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0039425 = 0.1183 BTC [-] {2}
10:43 Duffer1 what does the red one say at 1:05?
10:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's insanely hard to. most romanian native speakers could not write down the average episode even if they were given unlimited replays.
10:44 mircea_popescu you need a fucking postdoc to even understand the whole thing.
10:45 mircea_popescu an indicative example : loud music, the blue guy asks "cine-i la usa" (who's at the door)
10:45 Duffer1 i'll stick to rick & morty
10:45 mircea_popescu the other guy pretends to mishear "sa te ghetzalesc in gusa ?" which'd be... you want me to cum down your throat ?
10:45 mircea_popescu ghetz is a translation of hungarian word for cum, transformed into a verb by the romanian method of verbing (utterly foreign to hungarian)
10:46 mircea_popescu and gusa means gullet.
10:46 mircea_popescu s/is a translation/a notation/
10:46 asciilifeform not entirely related, for those concerned with obfuscations, homomorphic trickery, etc. : http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/02/cryptographic-obfuscation-and.html
10:47 Duffer1 i wish i could understand ep11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4itGkB168Q
10:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.021 = 0.126 BTC [+]
10:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.003948 = 0.1579 BTC [+]
10:48 mircea_popescu Duffer1 lemme write it down for you then.
10:48 Duffer1 thanks ^>^
10:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00487999 = 0.1269 BTC [+]
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 494 @ 0.00044494 = 0.2198 BTC [+] {2}
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 556 @ 0.00045 = 0.2502 BTC [+] {3}
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13587993 BTC [+]
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 476 @ 0.00392936 = 1.8704 BTC [-] {4}
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02349997 = 0.1645 BTC [+] {2}
10:54 Duffer1 https://crypto-trade.com/maintenance
10:55 ozbot Crypto-Trade | Bitcoin Exchange, Namecoin Exchange, Litecoin Exchange, Primecoin Exchange, BTC Excha
10:55 mircea_popescu Duffer1 http://dpaste.com/1653751/
10:55 Duffer1 brb learning romanian
10:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 211 @ 0.0008371 = 0.1766 BTC [-] {2}
10:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.00392742 = 0.3574 BTC [-] {2}
10:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 677 @ 0.00045 = 0.3047 BTC [+] {2}
10:57 mircea_popescu well at leeast you can now sing along :D
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.12 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2}
10:58 jurov http://zevv.nl/play/misc/bugaday/
11:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.003944 = 0.1183 BTC [+]
11:00 Duffer1 sweating onion sauce - that can't be right?
11:01 Duffer1 "Well ... I see a creature with mecla the beggar , like pad with wings . Between her tits have hair in their ears and runny die nears surprised sweating onion sauce ."
11:01 Duffer1 google translate
11:01 mircea_popescu Duffer1 it's exactly right. tho i'd have said "exhudes onion sauce"
11:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.003948 = 1.1449 BTC [+] {2}
11:02 Duffer1 fascinating
11:03 mircea_popescu face of a beggar, like a female hygiene product with wings, hair between the tits and whey coming out of ears.
11:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.003944 = 0.5679 BTC [-]
11:03 Duffer1 ohhh pad, i see
11:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3660 @ 0.00397988 = 14.5664 BTC [+] {10}
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [+]
11:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 544 @ 0.004282 = 2.3294 BTC [+] {5}
11:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00016388 = 1.6388 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2081 @ 0.00016388 = 0.341 BTC [-]
11:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 356 @ 0.004282 = 1.5244 BTC [+] {3}
11:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11701501 = 2.3403 BTC [-] {6}
11:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 527 @ 0.00432375 = 2.2786 BTC [+] {6}
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 79 @ 0.00433 = 0.3421 BTC [+] {3}
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10101 = 0.202 BTC [-]
11:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11645 = 0.6987 BTC [-] {2}
11:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00436448 = 0.3797 BTC [+] {3}
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00439 = 0.5575 BTC [+]
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11438525 = 0.6863 BTC [-] {2}
11:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00439 = 0.4478 BTC [+] {3}
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11400001 = 0.684 BTC [-]
11:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00439 = 0.1229 BTC [+]
11:15 Jere_Jones At what point does the price of NEOBEE become silly?
11:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.114 = 1.368 BTC [-]
11:17 Apocalyptic silly as in overvalued ?
11:17 Jere_Jones Yeah
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.11096673 = 1.6645 BTC [-] {3}
11:18 thestringpuller !h b.exch
11:18 assbot List of commands:
11:18 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
11:18 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
11:18 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
11:18 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
11:18 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
11:18 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
11:18 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
11:18 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
11:18 thestringpuller !ticker h b.exch
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK:B.EXCH] 1D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (111 shares, 18.01540434 BTC), 7D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (661 shares, 107.28092134 BTC), 30D: 0.02010015 / 0.19893903 / 0.24310363 (2586 shares, 514.45633147 BTC)
11:18 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
11:18 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00085493 / 0.00088506 / 0.0008982 (593615 shares, 525.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00083298 / 0.00087017 / 0.0008982 (5020770 shares, 4,368.94 BTC), 30D: 0.00082189 / 0.00088785 / 0.00101414 (27032433 shares, 24,000.87 BTC)
11:18 thestringpuller weird....?
11:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00045 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}
11:19 mircea_popescu !t h neobee
11:19 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00310005 / 0.00349514 / 0.00439000 (123218 shares, 430.66362307 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00337639 / 0.00439000 (171638 shares, 579.51649026 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00317899 / 0.00439000 (308370 shares, 980.30640239 BTC)
11:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.11799999 = 0.944 BTC [+] {2}
11:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11799999 = 0.236 BTC [+]
11:21 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones i dunno, how would you eval it even
11:22 thestringpuller ;;calc 0.000080347 * 5
11:22 gribble 0.000401735
11:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00437 = 0.354 BTC [-]
11:23 Jere_Jones It's nonvoting so the only thing that matters is future value + future dividends.
11:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.00438 = 0.1183 BTC [+]
11:24 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones so they got a bunch of advertising in cyprus done. by my count that's worth ~0, and they have a pretty clueless ceo/management team, which is the end of the story.
11:25 mircea_popescu then again... im sure other people differ.
11:25 thestringpuller babysteps
11:26 Jere_Jones I own some and my avg pps is .001125. At what point do I say "Good 'nuff" and bail?
11:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5631 @ 0.00089454 = 5.0372 BTC [-]
11:26 thestringpuller what are they even making money from if they don't charge people to accept payments on their network...
11:26 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones did they ever publish a statement ?
11:26 jurov they don't seem to have any product. to get merchants onboard, you need some pos terminal
11:26 mircea_popescu balancesheet, cash flow, etc ?
11:27 Jere_Jones No. Just projections.
11:27 mircea_popescu derp...
11:27 thestringpuller lol like tru payment processor
11:28 Jere_Jones I don't expect one until the end of the quarter.
11:28 mircea_popescu how long have they been trading ?
11:28 Jere_Jones neobee? or in general?
11:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00438 = 0.876 BTC [+]
11:28 Jere_Jones Duh. "They", not "you"
11:28 mircea_popescu neobee what do you mean in general.
11:28 mircea_popescu yeah lol.
11:29 thestringpuller !ticker m ^oix
11:29 assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
11:29 Jere_Jones Since October
11:29 mircea_popescu i guess they only missed one if they do quarterlies then
11:29 mircea_popescu so bail once they miss the 2nd
11:29 Jere_Jones The "IPVO" started in october. It ended yesterday.
11:30 thestringpuller are options not moving this month? or is all exposure underwritten/short from users -> mpoebot?
11:30 mircea_popescu not like you'll have any problem unloading to the reddit crowd anyway
11:30 mircea_popescu thestringpuller we're out of signal atm.
11:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00438 = 1.0205 BTC [+]
11:30 thestringpuller how so?
11:31 thestringpuller like bitcoin charts has been unreachable for some time?
11:31 thestringpuller or some other signal...?
11:31 mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506450
11:32 thestringpuller thx
11:32 ThickAsThieves neo does a hold a lot of coin last i knew
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1230 @ 0.00438376 = 5.392 BTC [-] {2}
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC
11:32 ThickAsThieves another factor to consider
11:33 ThickAsThieves ipo raised like 9500btc or sumth
11:33 ThickAsThieves obviously some ha sbeen spent
11:33 ThickAsThieves no idea at what price or how much though
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1105001 = 0.442 BTC [-]
11:33 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves kinda why statements are helpful.
11:34 mircea_popescu would resolve Jere_Jones question anyway.
11:34 thestringpuller whoa, so gox indirectly is fucking up options quoting?
11:34 thestringpuller well from bot
11:34 thestringpuller hahaha
11:34 thestringpuller woow
11:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00089231 = 8.6108 BTC [-]
11:34 thestringpuller what about settling outstanding options? that will still be resuolved with 24h,prc no?
11:34 thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc
11:34 gribble 350.98
11:34 ThickAsThieves <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves kinda why statements are helpful. /// can't argue with that
11:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7649 @ 0.00089156 = 6.8195 BTC [-]
11:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00444951 = 0.4672 BTC [+] {4}
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00446999 = 0.3174 BTC [+] {2}
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00470024 = 0.2256 BTC [-] {5}
11:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00446999 = 1.0147 BTC [+] {5}
11:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 252 @ 0.00447415 = 1.1275 BTC [+] {4}
11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.0045 = 1.4535 BTC [+] {6}
11:40 ThickAsThieves ebay needs some lessons on how to deal with trolls http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/24/5442358/war-of-words-heats-up-between-carl-icahn-and-ebay-with-accusations-of
11:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.0045 = 0.9315 BTC [+] {2}
11:42 Diablo-D3 step one: ignore all criticism
11:42 davout_ mircea_popescu i lol'd at your last article
11:46 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/bank-like-bitcoin-portal-neo-opens-first-branch-cyprus/ we have liftoff?
11:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00479 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
11:49 ThickAsThieves uh oh they mentioned Havelock
11:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 120 @ 0.16230094 = 19.4761 BTC [-]
11:50 ThickAsThieves wonder if it'll get picked up by bigger media
11:51 BingoBoingo Doubt it, this isn't OpenBSD or anything
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00479 = 0.2395 BTC [+]
11:53 ThickAsThieves hehe
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00479785 = 1.0987 BTC [+] {4}
11:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
11:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00488 = 0.488 BTC [+]
11:56 ThickAsThieves i see coindesk assumed the market cap on havelock was actually that
11:56 BingoBoingo https://xkcd.com/273/
11:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00488 = 0.2147 BTC [+] {2}
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.00488 = 1.6592 BTC [+] {2}
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00488751 = 0.65 BTC [+] {4}
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.17097594 BTC to 2`702 shares, 80347 satoshi per share
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00488224 = 1.9529 BTC [-] {5}
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00488 = 0.4929 BTC [-] {2}
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.76010680 BTC to 9`595 shares, 18344 satoshi per share
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 112 @ 0.05943381 = 6.6566 BTC [-] {4}
12:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.0049 = 0.5439 BTC [+] {4}
12:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00088851 = 19.3695 BTC [-] {2}
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.004892 = 0.6115 BTC [-] {3}
12:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00489514 = 0.4748 BTC [+] {2}
12:08 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: random as shit question. does romania have skateboarding?
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000155 = 0.465 BTC [-]
12:08 mircea_popescu i guess it must.
12:08 thestringpuller like are there good skaters out there?
12:08 mircea_popescu i have no idea, i'm kinda interested in women only in that age range.
12:08 thestringpuller lol i have a youtube video for you
12:09 thestringpuller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQmW21AJHI - bad footage but of a chick skating
12:10 thestringpuller might not be completely your type tho :P (not super model enuff)
12:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00487975 = 0.1122 BTC [-] {2}
12:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00489 = 0.1516 BTC [-]
12:12 mircea_popescu she's ok i guess.
12:13 Duffer1 taking your board to the MPsummit stringpuller? :D
12:13 mircea_popescu so apparently apple just got owned to shit
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.05821334 = 0.8732 BTC [-] {8}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00489073 = 0.6651 BTC [+] {2}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]
12:14 mircea_popescu "This means theoretically that if you’ve been using the flawed iOS or OS X systems since then, a hacker on your shared network could have captured all your data that should have been SSL- or TSL-encrypted for the past 18 months."
12:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you seen the shit ?
12:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: posted it here several days ago
12:15 asciilifeform assumed that nobody gave a shit
12:15 mircea_popescu i guess i didn't realise at the time just how deep it goes
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000155 = 0.155 BTC [-]
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 234 @ 0.00489999 = 1.1466 BTC [+] {3}
12:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.104 = 0.936 BTC [+] {2}
12:15 mircea_popescu just went "derp, apple sucks"
12:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48303333 = 1.4491 BTC [+] {2}
12:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.00489779 = 2.0081 BTC [-] {4}
12:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15620 @ 0.00088688 = 13.8531 BTC [-] {2}
12:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2280 @ 0.00088651 = 2.0212 BTC [-]
12:18 mircea_popescu "goto fail;" srsly ?!
12:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0049 = 1.715 BTC [+] {3}
12:20 asciilifeform a very convenient 'bug.'
12:21 asciilifeform the days of ham-handed 'nsakey' are long gone.
12:21 mircea_popescu http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/02/20/remittance-map/
12:21 mircea_popescu check out nigeria.
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004949 = 2.4745 BTC [+]
12:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.0049499 = 0.4108 BTC [+]
12:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00494999 = 0.2326 BTC [+]
12:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00494999 = 1.0048 BTC [+] {5}
12:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4420 @ 0.00088651 = 3.9184 BTC [-]
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.005 = 0.135 BTC [+]
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1343 @ 0.0001555 = 0.2088 BTC [+]
12:31 deadweasel nigeria rec'd 20bn ?!
12:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00499986 = 0.585 BTC [-] {2}
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]
12:34 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5341322#msg5341322
12:34 pankkake http://beta.slashdot.org/story/198557
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0049989 = 0.4999 BTC [-]
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1000 @ 0.00010091 = 0.1009 BTC [-] {4}
12:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.058 = 0.348 BTC [-]
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.06049899 = 0.726 BTC [+] {4}
12:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 305 @ 0.0049991 = 1.5247 BTC [+] {4}
12:36 mircea_popescu deadweasel i saw 6
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0606 = 0.2424 BTC [+]
12:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00499907 = 0.3349 BTC [-] {3}
12:36 mircea_popescu pankkake lol waitwat ?
12:36 pankkake indeed
12:37 ThickAsThieves ahahaha
12:37 ThickAsThieves i'm jealous
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.0049197 = 0.7822 BTC [-] {6}
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [+] {2}
12:37 jborkl mircea_pankkake?
12:37 mircea_popescu who's crumbs anyway ?
12:38 mircea_popescu is this some guy's sock trying to pretend he's me or is it some random nut trying to say i'm everybody
12:38 jborkl forum account that got perma banned
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00478 = 2.151 BTC [-] {4}
12:38 Duffer1 pretty funny troll
12:38 Duffer1 the ActM goatse was perfect
12:39 mircea_popescu eccentric huh ?
12:39 mircea_popescu hey guise you really think i'm eccentric psychotic ?
12:39 ThickAsThieves crumbs uses another name now
12:39 mircea_popescu "The proof of this has been sent to the person who paid for my services which cannot and will not be shown on here, due to the backlash this will bring including personal information for him and other users who have trusted him."
12:39 ThickAsThieves i think i sorted it but i forgot
12:39 mircea_popescu iiiinteresting
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00478106 = 0.3538 BTC [+] {8}
12:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9156 @ 0.00088648 = 8.1166 BTC [-]
12:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00509982 = 0.153 BTC [+] {2}
12:39 mircea_popescu "Due to the real identity of these troll accounts belonging to Mircea Popescu and how close he believes himself to be to the higher echelons of Bitcoin including the Mods/Admins of this forum, i don't believe this post to last long."
12:39 Bones btctalk drama is best drama
12:39 mircea_popescu who am i close to, thermos ? bear ?
12:40 mircea_popescu who is even a mod there these days ?
12:40 mircea_popescu o wait, davout!
12:40 ThickAsThieves crumbs is basically who almost knows what he's talking about but usually takes the trolling just ove rthe edge
12:40 ThickAsThieves a poster*
12:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00509999 = 0.1071 BTC [+]
12:40 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves meanwhile i got the list.
12:40 ThickAsThieves bitcoinnewsfeed is velacreations i think
12:41 ThickAsThieves ffsixtynine uses socks to be somewhat pumpy
12:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.0049989 = 0.105 BTC [+] {3}
12:42 mircea_popescu " The Fed isn't printing."
12:42 mircea_popescu gotta love twitter folk.
12:42 Duffer1 eoe
12:42 Duffer1 wow even
12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.0049989 = 0.9598 BTC [+] {5}
12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.0051 = 0.1275 BTC [+]
12:42 mircea_popescu incidentally : check out this shot https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhQVp6XIEAANOCd.jpg:large
12:42 mircea_popescu isn't it fucking pathetic ? i mean it's obv the girls aren't there cause of the guy.
12:43 mircea_popescu they're not even looking at him, more liek trying to get in the shot.
12:43 ThickAsThieves i bet he's into some weird shit
12:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00499897 = 2.6245 BTC [+] {5}
12:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 272 @ 0.00499893 = 1.3597 BTC [-] {6}
12:44 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe he's crumbs.
12:45 ThickAsThieves here's my ignore list if anyone wants http://dpaste.com/1654085/
12:45 Duffer1 can i be Crumbs?
12:45 ThickAsThieves not all scammers
12:45 Duffer1 dibs
12:45 mircea_popescu i recently emptied mine. i feel all nude now
12:46 ThickAsThieves cuz i also ignore total idiots
12:46 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves wait, vampire is on irc ?!
12:46 ThickAsThieves tahts the forum
12:46 Jere_Jones Hmmm... the first name on your list is the dude that sold me my first bitcoins.
12:46 mircea_popescu a, forum nm.
12:46 mircea_popescu listen, with the new 0day scammer registration programme, does ignoring even serve any purpose anymore ?
12:47 mircea_popescu lol ignored aussie_striker
12:47 ThickAsThieves i think it does serve purpose cuz now accounts with more than 1 coin go up in scammer value
12:47 ThickAsThieves so there will be persistence
12:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00499889 = 0.22 BTC [-] {2}
12:48 mircea_popescu all these names i don't know
12:48 ThickAsThieves and there is def evidence of 2+coin accounts being sold
12:48 mircea_popescu SolarWindMiningCompany << wait aren't these those idiots with the insane ipo plan ?
12:48 ThickAsThieves dunno
12:49 ThickAsThieves my gavel is swift and lacks memory
12:49 ThickAsThieves sometimes
12:49 ThickAsThieves hehe
12:49 mircea_popescu nice list of people who LIVE for bitcoin, had you paid attention!!1
12:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 251 @ 0.00484762 = 1.2168 BTC [-] {3}
12:50 Duffer1 wait so "Prism" is claiming Crumbs is MP/Pankkake and MPOE-PR and that he was hired to find out this information by a high value neobee holder
12:50 mircea_popescu "The information & proof has now all been given to the buyer to do with as they please (legal action) - (see below), now with their consent I have the approval to post the identity of this Troll."
12:51 mircea_popescu wait wait... i'm getting sued ?
12:51 mircea_popescu pankkake what have you got me mixed up in!
12:51 Duffer1 this is a bizarre troll, i wonder what the endgame is
12:51 Duffer1 er endgame = punchline
12:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0049989 = 0.3799 BTC [+]
12:51 mircea_popescu i am but a simple country boy, some might say a cock-eyed optimist, who got mixed up in a deadly game of world diplomacy and international intrigue!
12:52 Duffer1 bitcointalk drama is best drama
12:52 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
12:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 554.46, Best ask: 554.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 554.99, 24 hour volume: 45677.47870327, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 579.195068284
12:52 mircea_popescu "mp is ousted as pankkake/crumbs. bitcoin plunges"
12:53 BingoBoingo It wouldn't be the first time.
12:54 mircea_popescu actually you're right, the pankkake theory is really...
12:54 mircea_popescu wait. usagi invented that neh ?
12:54 mircea_popescu or was usagi before p's time
12:54 mircea_popescu who was usagi threatening to sue because it's me ?
12:54 BingoBoingo Usagi I think was largely pre-pankkake
12:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.0049989 = 0.12 BTC [+]
12:55 ThickAsThieves coincidence!?
12:55 BingoBoingo Maybe Deprived or repentance?
12:55 mircea_popescu repentance ? hmmm
12:55 jborkl deprived
12:55 mircea_popescu cause he had irc logs as evidence!
12:55 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/10434/guncoin-2nd-amendment/
12:55 mircea_popescu of me hiring whoever to mess up his biz
12:55 ThickAsThieves fukn hideous
12:56 Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.0
12:56 ThickAsThieves "Guncoin claims to exist out of a real public need. In the United States it is very difficult to find conventional payment processors willing to serve online firearm dealers. When a third party payment processor is willing to process a transaction it involves an incredibly high fee."
12:56 ThickAsThieves how cna they print that shit
12:56 pankkake yes, I almost invested in usagi stuff but people said noooooooooooooo and then there was no usagi
12:56 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves this is actually true.
12:56 pankkake also, Prism is probably crumbs
12:56 ThickAsThieves how does guncoin solve anything?
12:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00088473 = 12.3862 BTC [-] {2}
12:57 mircea_popescu never you mind that.
12:57 ThickAsThieves by being bitcoin in disguise?
12:57 mircea_popescu the true part is that gun dealers are being squeezed by obama's goons exactly on the pp side.
12:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00088342 = 4.6821 BTC [-]
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
12:58 pankkake guncoin is worse, because it says "i trade guns"
12:58 pankkake whereas bitcoin you can say it was only for pot
12:58 mircea_popescu lol
12:58 mircea_popescu hence "Crackpot"
12:58 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9ihtpqwVP1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg << cunt we all just get along ?
12:59 ThickAsThieves bitcoin mag needs an editor with a strong pimp hand
13:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00499896 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {3}
13:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: there is a whole u.s. subculture of astoundingly illiterate folks who will fall for this
13:01 mircea_popescu this
13:01 asciilifeform the same ones who came up in your research of 'sovereign citizen' crapola
13:01 mircea_popescu o o o.
13:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.0049987 = 0.8748 BTC [-] {3}
13:02 mircea_popescu well... the more idiots are being drawn away from bitcoin, the better.
13:02 mircea_popescu people going about "adoption" keep forgetting we don't want a large number of idiots,
13:02 mircea_popescu we want a high avg iq more than that
13:02 ThickAsThieves yeha if we spend all the idiots now, what will the smarties pillage?
13:03 kakobrekla did you make the chart Bugpowder?
13:03 mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9db3yoO1v1ry97voo1_500.jpg << aren't those great tits ?
13:04 Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg3954657#msg3954657
13:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.004999 = 1.8996 BTC [+] {3}
13:05 Bugpowder kakobrekla: not yet. Fucking swamped with real work
13:05 mircea_popescu I offer 1M Nxt ? what's that worth ?
13:05 ThickAsThieves something
13:06 ThickAsThieves what's wrong with these people
13:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.004999 = 4.999 BTC [+] {2}
13:06 Bugpowder Need to figure out a better JSON parser for Matlab first.
13:06 ThickAsThieves pankkake doesnt even troll
13:06 Bones that's mp's serious account
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 205 @ 0.0049951 = 1.024 BTC [-] {3}
13:07 ThickAsThieves how on earth are people still caring about ActM
13:07 ThickAsThieves does it pay divs or something?
13:07 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yes. 1mn nexts
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0055 = 0.22 BTC
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00499502 = 2.4975 BTC [-] {2}
13:08 pankkake still not trading so no
13:08 pankkake also crypto-trade is down
13:08 pankkake https://crypto-trade.com/maintenance
13:09 Duffer1 ya lol
13:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.00499 = 0.6387 BTC [-] {2}
13:09 mircea_popescu "So above you see pankkake continue to smear the company ActiveMining (by calling it an investment scam, associating it with the known 'LabCoin scam', saying the CEO is facing jail and accusing me of being a scammer (!)) after Ken publicly refused to pay pankkake's blackmail money demand."
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13:09 mircea_popescu derp
13:09 ThickAsThieves they were hacked right? C-T
13:09 Duffer1 of course
13:09 ThickAsThieves they say they lost $30k and will cover it
13:09 mircea_popescu these people. i wonder if there's anyone but the scammers left on that forum
13:09 mircea_popescu o look, they could have got a mpex seat
13:10 ThickAsThieves they are on sale havent you heard?
13:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00499 = 0.3094 BTC [-] {3}
13:10 pankkake I forced myself to log out and missed all the good things!
13:10 ThickAsThieves like $16500
13:10 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
13:10 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 534.0, Best ask: 535.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 535.0, 24 hour volume: 47401.00643850, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 577.133067696
13:10 mircea_popescu yeah not bad.
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+] {2}
13:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00499 = 1.5469 BTC [-]
13:11 mircea_popescu MPOE-PR: "i just... i can't even... i wasn't going to say anything tonight, but this forum has decreased in intelligence and self-awareness since last fall at least three fold"
13:11 mircea_popescu "sometimes i imagine i'm in a floating third world bazaar full of people trying to sell socks and pick pockets and not much else"
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05800016 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2}
13:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.004995 = 1.998 BTC [+]
13:12 pankkake there has been like three scams in a week
13:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: one of the great mysteries that my puny brain is powerless to digest is why you & mpoepr haven't decamped and left that forum to the radioactive cockroaches and rats
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.058 = 0.232 BTC [-] {2}
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.00499909 = 19.9964 BTC [+] {7}
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
13:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform she does what i say and i never said she should leave.
13:13 Duffer1 the rabbit hole, it goes deeper https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5341519#msg5341519
13:13 mircea_popescu call it inertia i guess
13:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i meant you in the sense of your firm, naturally
13:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1301 @ 0.005 = 6.505 BTC [+] {4}
13:14 mircea_popescu uh howssat ?
13:15 asciilifeform just, how low does the signal to noise ratio need to go
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.107 = 0.321 BTC [+] {3}
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 470 @ 0.00517446 = 2.432 BTC [+] {3}
13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
13:15 mircea_popescu i never measure it tho. what do i care ?
13:15 mircea_popescu she writes well, that's good enough.
13:16 asciilifeform the swine appear to be indifferent to the pearls, though
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00464002 = 0.1485 BTC [-] {3}
13:16 mircea_popescu i think some people here actually found this place because they ran over something she said.
13:17 mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5341519#msg5341519 << asciilifeform check it out
13:17 mircea_popescu they're doing textual analysis on me, coming to th conclusion i'm nick szabo
13:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00088319 = 9.4501 BTC [-] {2}
13:18 asciilifeform i wonder how many other people are szabo now.
13:18 asciilifeform who, i wonder, am i
13:18 mircea_popescu you are crumbs.
13:19 asciilifeform mebbe i'm an unknown usenet spammer from 1994.
13:19 mircea_popescu your girl is pankkake.
13:19 mircea_popescu except on weekends. then she's thestringpuller
13:19 asciilifeform textual analysis, wonderful thing
13:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.005198 = 0.499 BTC [-]
13:20 jurov pity we can't use graphology
13:21 pankkake crumbs was accused of being Eduardo de Castro, CEO of Hashfast
13:21 pankkake I think I was paid by Hashfast too
13:21 asciilifeform phrenology,
13:21 asciilifeform .
13:21 mircea_popescu derpology ?
13:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.481 = 2.405 BTC [-]
13:21 ThickAsThieves <asciilifeform> who, i wonder, am i /// lol
13:21 mircea_popescu herpetology was taken
13:21 diametric so pankkake is controlled by mircea_popescu
13:21 diametric many lols.
13:22 ThickAsThieves i read a book on graphology once, pretty much says, people who write crazy, are mor elikely to be crazy
13:22 mircea_popescu oops sorry guys i accidentally posted as diametric
13:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0051959 = 1.0392 BTC [-]
13:22 pankkake I write crazy
13:22 diametric its popescu's all the way down
13:22 pankkake can't even follow lines
13:22 ThickAsThieves broken cursive seemed to be a big indicator, if i recall
13:22 pankkake my signature is never the same
13:22 kakobrekla i dont write crazy but i am
13:23 mircea_popescu anyone wanna see my handwriting /
13:23 BingoBoingo Why not?
13:23 ThickAsThieves sure
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00519608 = 0.3533 BTC [+] {3}
13:23 kakobrekla its prolly like doctors
13:23 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/ajunge/
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13:23 ThickAsThieves i'm betting it leans slightly to the left
13:23 mircea_popescu telling natl liberal party to get stuffed.
13:23 mircea_popescu it's a historical document of sorts!
13:24 ThickAsThieves your sig looks a lot like mine
13:24 mircea_popescu CLEARLY
13:24 mircea_popescu you're pankkake
13:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0051985 = 1.0917 BTC [+]
13:24 ThickAsThieves pretty normal handwriting
13:24 ThickAsThieves not crazy
13:24 ThickAsThieves you may put on your robe
13:25 mircea_popescu lies.
13:25 asciilifeform http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Wladislaus_Dragwlya.JPG
13:25 mircea_popescu preparetohearfrommyelawyer
13:25 mircea_popescu fortheseslanders
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 454 @ 0.00519809 = 2.3599 BTC [-] {2}
13:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform is that you ?
13:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's the good king vlad.
13:26 mircea_popescu indeed.
13:26 mircea_popescu nice penmanship
13:26 mircea_popescu anyway, anyone can transcribe my shit ?
13:26 mircea_popescu first complete version gets 1k ATC
13:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 202 @ 0.0051985 = 1.0501 BTC [+] {2}
13:26 asciilifeform seems like there was a time when anyone with something to write had decent penmanship.
13:26 devthedev What do you need mircea_popescu?
13:26 mircea_popescu devthedev you mean generally or what ?
13:27 devthedev What do you need transcribed :P
13:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2014#525896
13:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00519133 = 0.3219 BTC [-] {3}
13:28 Apocalyptic guys, and particularly asciilifeform, what hardware would you recommend to generate random bytes ?
13:28 mircea_popescu cardano :D
13:28 asciilifeform Apocalyptic: how many do you need? and for what use ?
13:28 Jere_Jones What's the budget and timeline?
13:29 ThickAsThieves place cat on keyboard for random bytes
13:29 Apocalyptic asciilifeform, just 8 bytes, I need the best entropy i can reallistically get
13:29 asciilifeform Apocalyptic: more importantly, do you need random bytes that others do not have a copy of?
13:29 Apocalyptic yes
13:29 devthedev Oh
13:29 asciilifeform for 8 bytes, toss a coin manually and apply von neumann's debiasing algo.
13:29 Apocalyptic do I just roll dice ?
13:29 Apocalyptic ok
13:30 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic 1F 22 5A 94 D5 09 40 8B
13:30 mircea_popescu there you go.
13:30 asciilifeform depending on how crufty your coin is, you may have to throw it several hundred times.
13:30 Apocalyptic do you need random bytes that others do not have a copy of? // now -assets has them, seems about right
13:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.0051892 = 0.9756 BTC [-] {3}
13:30 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic you know the von neumann coin debias algo ?
13:30 Apocalyptic yes
13:30 asciilifeform http://www.billthelizard.com/2009/09/getting-fair-toss-from-biased-coin.html
13:31 mircea_popescu so then that
13:31 Apocalyptic I was tempted to dd if=/dev/random bs=8 count=1 > secret
13:31 Apocalyptic then i don't trust my hd RNG very much
13:31 mircea_popescu prolly work.
13:31 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic the problem of rng quality only appears on large datasets.
13:31 mircea_popescu for 8 bytes nobody can say anything
13:31 mircea_popescu FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF is perfectly random
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 457 @ 0.00518248 = 2.3684 BTC [-] {5}
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0597 = 0.1791 BTC [-]
13:32 Apocalyptic the probability of others guessing that is quite high though
13:32 Apocalyptic but I know what you mean
13:33 ThickAsThieves i'd never have guessed it
13:33 mircea_popescu just impossible to verify entropy quality on tiny samples.
13:33 Apocalyptic generally any statistical analysis is irrelevant on tiny samples
13:33 mircea_popescu and yes, it SEEMS it'd have been easy.
13:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00509999 = 0.5355 BTC [-] {3}
13:33 mircea_popescu but only in retrospect.
13:33 asciilifeform Apocalyptic: if you're a decent player of 'von neumann's mindreader' game, you can safely use your own fingers.
13:33 mircea_popescu there's a slight difference between stat analysis and entropy measuring, but anyway
13:33 Apocalyptic asciilifeform, will look into that, thanks
13:34 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, yeah, was just pointing another fact
13:34 asciilifeform Apocalyptic: http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html
13:34 ThickAsThieves i love that thing
13:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0051 = 0.408 BTC [+]
13:34 ThickAsThieves i got into a zone where i was doing well by not thinking, but couldnt keep it up
13:35 mircea_popescu look at that, Jere_Jones is nao rich, over 51!
13:35 ThickAsThieves thats what she saud
13:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.0050038 = 0.2602 BTC [-] {4}
13:36 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic actually, probably great way to get random data : select random day from log, select random portion of text, hash it.
13:37 mircea_popescu as anyone reading can attest, this chat is the randomest thing on the planet.
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.481 BTC [-]
13:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.005 = 0.555 BTC [-] {4}
13:38 Jere_Jones Rich? Eh. The depth on Havelock is so thin that I'd wipe out the entire orderbook down to 1 satoshi. So it isn't like I can actually cash out.
13:38 mircea_popescu $depth meh nm
13:38 mpexbot mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
13:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC [-]
13:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 882 @ 0.0048611 = 4.2875 BTC [-] {11}
13:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00088262 = 7.8994 BTC [-]
13:40 mircea_popescu holy shit i totally forgot nubbins!
13:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00470466 = 0.5551 BTC [-] {3}
13:42 ThickAsThieves did you leave him in a trunk or something?
13:42 Vexual tied in the celar
13:42 mircea_popescu ;;later tell nubbins`omfg you're right!
13:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:42 devthedev Hey BingoBoingo
13:42 devthedev Anyone think Gox will ever resume BTC withdraws? :P
13:42 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no i just went ballistic over idiot wannabes stealing shit totally forgetting to mention i got it from him
13:43 mircea_popescu which i guess is ironic
13:43 Vexual everyone was poliely ignoring that mp
13:43 mircea_popescu Vexual you're too kind lol
13:43 ThickAsThieves lol
13:43 mircea_popescu devthedev i think there's some bets about it
13:43 mircea_popescu nubsy should start that sausage blog already so i can give him a link
13:44 ThickAsThieves all you have to do is auto-include your "it all started on IRC, like all good things these days" line before you speka in public
13:44 * ThickAsThieves badoom tsss
13:44 mircea_popescu i no speka
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00479998 = 0.4944 BTC [+] {3}
13:44 ThickAsThieves the badoom tss was for 'give him a link'\
13:44 mircea_popescu who broke the pipes
13:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 190 @ 0.00480299 = 0.9126 BTC [+] {3}
13:46 devthedev I guess we'll see
13:46 Vexual mp is probably nubbins anyways
13:46 pankkake the proof is in the beard
13:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00498999 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {3}
13:47 pankkake crumbs sent me a PM quoting Prism. he's definitively Prism
13:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.00498999 = 0.9381 BTC [+] {4}
13:49 Duffer1 nice try crumbs
13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]
13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.129498 = 0.259 BTC [+]
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
13:54 mircea_popescu no, his ass is too big.
13:54 Vexual neo-bee.com has an image of a man with a rope standing next to a chair in the middle of a room
13:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2460 @ 0.0001555 = 0.3825 BTC [+]
13:55 Jere_Jones What is the image at the end of http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-was-written-by-the-retarded-part-ii/ ?
13:56 mircea_popescu these self improvement idjits are ridiculous by now. "You want to do something that you enjoy every day and then the outcome doesn't matter."
13:56 mircea_popescu derp, jacking off meets those criteria.
13:57 mircea_popescu Jere_Jones the well known headmash on kbd gif
13:57 mircea_popescu doesn't it load ?
13:57 BingoBoingo Maybe the point is that jacking of meets those criteria exactly
13:57 Jere_Jones I only saw the final frame
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.0606 = 1.4544 BTC [+]
13:58 Jere_Jones Reloading the page and seeing from the beginning makes more sense.
13:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo indeed.
13:59 Duffer1 oh i see, it doesn't replay
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12947591 = 0.259 BTC [-] {2}
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00497777 = 0.2489 BTC [-]
14:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 667 @ 0.00492657 = 3.286 BTC [-] {5}
14:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12947691 BTC [+]
14:02 Vexual http://www.neo-bee.com/files/9313/9238/8855/neo-front-04.jpg
14:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.0048 = 0.2064 BTC [-]
14:03 mircea_popescu http://sirf-online.org/2014/02/21/how-to-effortlessly-earn-a-riskless-90-on-your-bitcoins-through-the-magic-of-binary-options-trading-or-the-nigerian-email-con-tries-wall-street/ sort-of lulzy
14:03 kakobrekla >Upcoming Products
14:03 kakobrekla Time locked Wallets:
14:03 kakobrekla Experience the investment potential of Bitcoin with none of the risk, agree to purchase a value of bitcoins over a pre-selected period of time and get either your original investment back or a prioritised share of the gains.
14:03 kakobrekla how is it no risk
14:03 kakobrekla what if btc plummets to shit
14:04 mircea_popescu kakobrekla again this ghostship of an idea ?
14:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 352 @ 0.0048 = 1.6896 BTC [-] {3}
14:04 mircea_popescu it keeps coming back.
14:04 kakobrekla was it here before?
14:04 Duffer1 pankkake don't leave us :*(
14:04 kakobrekla i shathap then
14:05 ThickAsThieves i guess neo condoms DO exist! http://i.imgur.com/atiOW5D.jpg
14:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00498146 = 1.8382 BTC [+] {5}
14:05 mircea_popescu kakobrekla there was a business cca 2012, different guy
14:05 mircea_popescu it never went anywhere
14:05 kakobrekla ThickAsThieves you dont have a problem with so much lulzy claims ?
14:05 kakobrekla you might as well run PPT i guess?
14:05 ThickAsThieves which lulzy claims?
14:06 kakobrekla all of them
14:06 ThickAsThieves the terminal http://i.imgur.com/XeITiI6.jpg
14:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 549 @ 0.00498452 = 2.7365 BTC [+] {5}
14:06 jurov pirate did not invest in real estate development
14:06 kakobrekla his face is real estate
14:06 ThickAsThieves i missed something kako
14:06 mircea_popescu my understanding was that ThickAsThieves is not actually related to neobee
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14:06 kakobrekla as much as goat is not related to pirate
14:06 ThickAsThieves i dont run it or anything
14:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 382 @ 0.00488831 = 1.8673 BTC [-] {4}
14:07 ThickAsThieves i make my criticisms known to them when i have them
14:07 mircea_popescu do you run the havelock asset ?
14:07 pankkake Duffer1: I actually force myself to log out so I can do better things now
14:07 ThickAsThieves sometimes they listen
14:07 ThickAsThieves i do
14:07 mircea_popescu well then.
14:07 pankkake I liked the neo payement receipt
14:07 ThickAsThieves i mean run Neo
14:07 ThickAsThieves meant*
14:07 ThickAsThieves i am pankkake, not a CEO
14:08 Vexual did your cousins fit out the shop tat?
14:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00497924 = 0.4929 BTC [+] {3}
14:08 ThickAsThieves i helped with the new website, though it wasn't rendered entirely to spec
14:08 mircea_popescu so then basically you run the havelock asset but have no say in anything
14:08 ThickAsThieves but that was just cuz i felt like it
14:08 mircea_popescu what's going on in your head ?
14:08 mircea_popescu suppose they split. what do you do then, apologize ?
14:08 Vexual did you spec the suicide imagery?
14:09 ThickAsThieves split?
14:09 mircea_popescu yes. split.
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.0046401 = 0.2181 BTC [-] {2}
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 724 @ 0.00499999 = 3.62 BTC [+] {4}
14:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12949998 BTC [+]
14:09 ThickAsThieves suppose asciilifeform splits
14:09 ThickAsThieves then what do you do
14:09 Apocalyptic "<I_told_you_so> US Exchange Regulators needs to step in and Audit Mt.Gox finances to protect the US investors." seriously nao
14:09 ThickAsThieves suppose erik scams all his shareholders what do you do?
14:09 mircea_popescu i distribute ~1.0 par on the shares and dissolve s.nsa
14:10 mircea_popescu i force him not to
14:10 mircea_popescu and people get ~1.0 par on their shares.
14:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 468 @ 0.00499997 = 2.34 BTC [-] {5}
14:10 ThickAsThieves 1.0 par? you mena you refund the ipo price?
14:10 mircea_popescu not very good examples, there.
14:10 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves roughly. have you seen the s.nsa report ?
14:10 ThickAsThieves not lately
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 749 @ 0.00499998 = 3.745 BTC [+] {4}
14:11 ThickAsThieves how does Neo "split"?
14:11 mircea_popescu S.NSA has a total of 4`737`075 authorised shares outstanding. The total assets per share implied value is thus 0.00009980 BTC. The cash+tangible assets per share implied value is thus 0.00009828 BTC.
14:11 mircea_popescu so it's about 0.9828 par atm.
14:11 ThickAsThieves burn down the buildings and vanish?
14:11 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves just goes "havelock ? shares ? wat ?"
14:11 mircea_popescu "we never heard of any of this sorry"
14:11 ThickAsThieves they are profit-shares firstly
14:12 mircea_popescu so ?
14:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.005 = 0.42 BTC [+] {3}
14:12 ThickAsThieves oh
14:12 ThickAsThieves i have a contract with Neo
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14:12 mircea_popescu suppose they get bought out.
14:12 mircea_popescu is this published anywhere ?
14:12 ThickAsThieves no it's private
14:12 mircea_popescu which means if anything goes south you will be sue-able.
14:13 mircea_popescu at the very least as about five different torts.
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.005 = 0.375 BTC [+]
14:13 ThickAsThieves i am only an administrator for them
14:14 mircea_popescu if the deal goes south in any way your secret contract fails to cover for it any havelock owner can sue you for breach of fiduciary duty
14:14 mircea_popescu as they trusted you and your secret contract to protect their legitimate interest in the matter.
14:14 mircea_popescu and this is merely scratching the surface.
14:14 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5343174#msg5343174 some serious conspiracy stuff going on! (too bad I actually bought the captchas for the other guy, not the reverse)
14:15 kakobrekla i guess my question is at what point would you say "thats too much of a scam for me to administer". would you take over a PPT?
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.0051 = 0.3672 BTC [+]
14:15 mircea_popescu "Now, if you look at his Web of Trust ratings, you'll see that pankkake has a rating from user abc4btc with the note
14:15 mircea_popescu "small captcha-for-btc transaction". Two months later MP gave him a rating as a "python dev". MP also has a rating from
14:15 mircea_popescu pankkake for "MPEx and other stuff" (#32218)."
14:15 ThickAsThieves i dont take over things
14:15 mircea_popescu definitely!
14:15 mircea_popescu we're in the wot!
14:15 ThickAsThieves and Neo is not a scam
14:15 kakobrekla ...
14:15 ThickAsThieves how the hell can you still be riding that
14:16 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves if they get no roi on their advertising campaign what happens ?
14:16 kakobrekla i asked you at what point, obviously you think its all good or else you wouldnt be doing the administration or does it not matter to you ?
14:16 ThickAsThieves of course it matters to me
14:17 mircea_popescu pankkake the lulzy part is the guy has a dota avatar. wtf one could like dota and be that silly.
14:17 ThickAsThieves you dont see a difference between the things my name is on and everyone else's yet?
14:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 282 @ 0.00509997 = 1.4382 BTC [+] {3}
14:17 kakobrekla you dont understand that whatever you contract says you are associated with them in public
14:17 pankkake if only they spent that energy on researching scammers
14:17 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves seems to me you've put yourself in a rather untenable position there, if that's what you're asking.
14:17 Duffer1 ken having his head so far up his own ass he doesn't know up from down isn't the problem it's those terrible trolls pankkake and crumbs, payed by MP to slander ActM
14:17 Jere_Jones Is that why you dropped AM1 and AM100?
14:17 pankkake oh, dota as day of the dentacle. not the other gayme
14:18 mircea_popescu pankkake yup
14:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 528 @ 0.00509999 = 2.6928 BTC [+] {5}
14:18 davout pankkake: best game evar
14:18 mircea_popescu it was pretty fun yeah.
14:18 pankkake I have played other lucasarts games but not this one :(
14:18 mircea_popescu very clever
14:18 mircea_popescu o get it, definitely.
14:18 mircea_popescu great humour.
14:19 mircea_popescu that and planescape:torment prolly the best writing in game history.
14:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 515 @ 0.00500312 = 2.5766 BTC [-] {8}
14:19 pankkake the only one I managed to finish was Full Throttle
14:19 ThickAsThieves <Jere_Jones> Is that why you dropped AM1 and AM100? /// not specifically, but AM's ways didn't give me much reason to stay
14:20 ThickAsThieves are transfer agents sued in such examples?
14:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.005 = 0.4 BTC [-]
14:20 mircea_popescu there's about five yards worth of caselaw dealing with undisclosed contracts/relationships and what implications these have.
14:20 mircea_popescu but as a rule of thumb, it opens up the agent to all sorts of liabilities.
14:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00499988 = 5.1799 BTC [-] {3}
14:21 mircea_popescu anyway, as to the direct question, yes.
14:22 ThickAsThieves anything linkable?
14:22 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/our-emperor-deliver-us/ << this is an instructive example, which was litigated in spite of the thing being quite public, and on a hell of a technicality.
14:22 jurov I wonder why the havelock IPO is not mentioned on neo-bee.com ?
14:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004991 = 0.2995 BTC [-] {2}
14:22 mircea_popescu now imagine that instead of the two parties, there was a 3rd agent involved on one side.
14:22 jurov why are they afraid to publicly link themselves to it?
14:22 BingoBoingo The predictive power of kakobrekla's soul slander has lead me to submit a bitbet for consideration.
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00086361 = 0.8636 BTC [+] {6}
14:23 Vexual lmb-havelock lmb-neo
14:24 asciilifeform suppose $fill-in-the-blank splits << suppose we're all hanged tomorrow.
14:24 asciilifeform suppose nuclear war.
14:24 asciilifeform etc
14:24 ThickAsThieves jurov neo is owned by LMB, which has a wbesite and mentiones shares
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1358 @ 0.00086495 = 1.1746 BTC [+] {5}
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.481 = 2.405 BTC [-] {2}
14:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda different things.
14:25 mircea_popescu https://www.lmb-holdings.com/ this ?
14:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.004991 = 0.9982 BTC [-]
14:25 ThickAsThieves yessir
14:25 mircea_popescu no hits for havelock or shares on the main page ?
14:26 asciilifeform at any rate, i do assume that mpex users have brains and that the amount of s.nsa operations presently resting on my earthy carcass is priced into the shares.
14:26 kakobrekla Jere_Jones : its like this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2014#517566
14:26 asciilifeform *earthly
14:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1027 @ 0.00082899 = 0.8514 BTC [-] {10}
14:26 ThickAsThieves shares should hit
14:26 ThickAsThieves it's in the main nav
14:27 mircea_popescu i guess maybe i'm getting a broken version
14:27 asciilifeform once the complete blueprints for the current product are published, the carcass becomes less essential. and this too should end up priced in.
14:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 33890 @ 0.00014522 = 4.9215 BTC [-] {24}
14:27 ThickAsThieves neo does not have any reason to promote buying shares anymore anyway
14:28 mircea_popescu $vwap s.nsa
14:28 mpexbot mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: average: 0.00021 high: 0.00021 low: 0.00021 volume: 13000 btc: 2.73 7 day: average: 0.00020673 high: 0.00021 low: 0.0002 volume: 21400 btc: 4.424 30 day: average: 0.00014043 high: 0.00021 low: 0.000105 volume: 123750 btc: 17.378382
14:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform atm trading at like 220% book. i guess you're well regarded.
14:28 asciilifeform wish i knew why
14:28 mircea_popescu not much volume at all tho
14:28 mike_c meh, only if the current product is the last product. don't go dying yet ascii.
14:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform probably the number guesser thing
14:28 asciilifeform haha
14:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014 = 0.14 BTC [-]
14:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00013999 = 0.42 BTC [-] {2}
14:31 Vexual tat do you hold shares in lmb?
14:32 ThickAsThieves mp you got pm's btw
14:34 mircea_popescu aha
14:34 kakobrekla www.lmb-holdings.com/public_ledger/
14:34 kakobrekla this is taken from havelock or what is this
14:34 kakobrekla ?
14:34 ThickAsThieves it's list of direct holders
14:35 Vexual i think thats the neo ipo
14:35 kakobrekla these shares are not trading?
14:35 Vexual they don't become shareholders of lmb holdings do they?
14:35 mircea_popescu bizarre arrangement.
14:35 asciilifeform people who liked the numbers widget should respect the tomb of von neumann, not me.
14:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [-]
14:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00498899 = 0.4989 BTC [-]
14:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00493079 = 0.1381 BTC [-] {2}
14:37 benkay` davout i would indeed enjoy those tunes
14:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] CAPITULATION
14:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00088234 = 13.0145 BTC [-]
14:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 122 @ 0.00480737 = 0.5865 BTC [-] {3}
14:39 benkay` wtf is this: <assbot> [MPEX] [S.NSA] CAPITULATION
14:39 mircea_popescu wtf ?
14:39 kakobrekla meh im trolln
14:39 mircea_popescu dun do that jeeze
14:39 benkay` phoo
14:39 asciilifeform do i get tried at nuremberg?
14:39 asciilifeform or is it conditional capitulation
14:39 asciilifeform 'inquiring minds want to know'
14:40 kakobrekla it was a reply to the humble last line from ascii before that
14:40 kakobrekla is all
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0048197 = 0.482 BTC [+] {3}
14:41 benkay` fuckin with production hardware again kakobrekla
14:41 benkay` givin me the heebie jeebies
14:41 kakobrekla cmon i always bust balls.
14:41 jurov we should find him a whore
14:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00475002 = 0.1663 BTC [-] {3}
14:41 kakobrekla with balls?
14:41 jurov not enough sex -> molests assbot
14:41 mircea_popescu sure. a ballwhore.
14:41 kakobrekla ballwhore, sounds like karpeles.
14:42 mircea_popescu lmao
14:42 mircea_popescu would you do karpeles kakobrekla ?
14:42 kakobrekla i dont think hes got enouff btc
14:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00475003 = 0.7363 BTC [+] {2}
14:42 mircea_popescu no no, you're payin'. he's got the tits.
14:43 kakobrekla i can grow my own tits.
14:43 mircea_popescu what, slovenia has a nuclear plant now ?
14:43 kakobrekla man tits.
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 501 @ 0.000475 = 0.238 BTC [+] {2}
14:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00476236 = 0.3858 BTC [+] {5}
14:43 asciilifeform for anyone who doesn't know the score re: 's.nsa', i personally only earn anything if the product works as advertised and is well-loved.
14:43 kakobrekla but yes, we have a nuclear pp.
14:44 kakobrekla ;;google kr¹ko
14:44 gribble KRKO-AM: <http://www.krko.com/>; KRKO - North Sound 1380 Everett, WA - Listen Online - TuneIn: <http://tunein.com/radio/North-Sound-1380-s35018/>; KRKO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRKO>
14:44 jurov nah, eating hormone-fed chicken will do it
14:44 kakobrekla dafuq
14:44 kakobrekla here a wiki link i know you hate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr¹ko
14:45 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
14:45 jurov unicode fail again
14:45 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 548.99, Best ask: 549.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 549.0, 24 hour volume: 51322.07442683, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.306706561
14:45 kakobrekla so it seems i have a charset incompatible with myself
14:45 jurov indeed
14:45 mircea_popescu ;;calc 574.306706561 * .7 * 0.00021 * 10**6
14:45 gribble 84423.0858645
14:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00497399 = 1.1092 BTC [+] {3}
14:45 mircea_popescu you're rich bitch :D
14:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.004974 = 1.1987 BTC [+] {4}
14:47 mircea_popescu ;;google slovenia nuclear plant
14:47 gribble Krško Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr%C5%A1ko_Nuclear_Power_Plant>; Nuclear energy in Slovenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Slovenia>; Nuclear Power in Slovenia | Slovenia Nuclear Energy: <http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-O-S/Slovenia/>
14:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00498759 = 6.4839 BTC [+] {9}
14:47 mircea_popescu no fucking way
14:48 mircea_popescu "The plant is a 2-loop Westinghouse pressurized water reactor, with a rated thermal capacity of 1,994 thermal megawatts (MWt) and 696 megawatts-electric"
14:48 mircea_popescu ahahaha okay.
14:48 kakobrekla nuff to grow tits
14:48 Vexual sounds like nub's bong
14:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8565 @ 0.00013378 = 1.1458 BTC [-] {12}
14:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088262 = 3.6187 BTC [+]
14:49 kakobrekla 边
14:49 mircea_popescu It runs on [...] demineralized water as the moderator
14:49 kakobrekla bleh
14:49 mircea_popescu check it out... it's basically a skoda.
14:49 asciilifeform more of a ford, no?
14:49 benkay` ;;calc 696/1994
14:49 gribble 0.349047141424
14:49 asciilifeform '... the first western nuclear power plant in eastern Europe'
14:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2003 @ 0.00499995 = 10.0149 BTC [+] {3}
14:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4436 @ 0.000131 = 0.5811 BTC [-] {2}
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00497648 = 1.3337 BTC [-] {6}
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 350 @ 0.000818 = 0.2863 BTC [-] {4}
14:51 kakobrekla 边
14:51 mircea_popescu pretty cool.
14:51 mircea_popescu boroz tito ftw.
14:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.004999 = 0.11 BTC [+]
14:52 kakobrekla čžš
14:52 kakobrekla yes?
14:52 kakobrekla seems to work
14:52 jurov yes, now it works
14:52 mircea_popescu works.
14:52 kakobrekla k
14:53 jurov ľščťžýáíéúäôň
14:53 mircea_popescu dudes srsly, learn to language
14:53 mircea_popescu all these shits everywhere.
14:53 pankkake âĉāǎ
14:53 jurov just what i have on my damn keyboard
14:53 pankkake what is your layout like?
14:53 mircea_popescu if god had wanted stupid letters he;d have made them
14:53 kakobrekla you just need Đ for doge.
14:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.004851 = 2.9106 BTC [-] {4}
14:54 mircea_popescu Đ is for 8====Đ
14:54 asciilifeform reminds me of a cracked copy of ms-vb i saw as a kid, registered to 'ňäáíé'.
14:54 jurov pankkake they are under 1-9 on US layout
14:54 kakobrekla is that "8 absofuckinglutley the fuckin same as Đ" in php?
14:55 pankkake oh, kinda like azerty French accents. I think it's stupid
14:55 jurov yes it is
14:55 pankkake I am using BÉPO http://bepo.fr/
14:55 pankkake optimized for French but can write a bunch of European characters easily
14:56 mircea_popescu kakobrekla yes. also penis.
14:56 pankkake omg it has Ð easily accessible
14:56 mircea_popescu to the moon!
14:56 asciilifeform i thought even the chinese have renounced weirdo keyboards
14:56 asciilifeform in favour of translit-pinyin
14:56 kakobrekla well if you dont have Đ you can also use DŽ
14:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 295 @ 0.00498 = 1.4691 BTC [+]
14:57 pankkake and no Ƀ - I only have a <Compose>btc
14:57 jurov dž lolol
14:58 pankkake Dž (titlecase form; all-capitals form DŽ, lowercase dž) is the seventh letter of the Croatian and Bosnian alphabets
14:58 pankkake uh
14:58 pankkake what is going on
14:58 jurov we have "ch" as extra letter
14:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2438 @ 0.00088262 = 2.1518 BTC [+]
14:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what's a Ro keyboard like?
14:59 pankkake if I paste it the character is transformed
14:59 pankkake but moreover. it's TWO LETTERS
14:59 pankkake don't call it a letter!! araaahagahg
14:59 kakobrekla yes :)
14:59 jurov duuno why they didn't use "x" proper, nobody takes that seriously anyway
15:01 kakobrekla pankkake > It has a similar sound to the English dg in dodge.
15:01 kakobrekla and those idiots call it dodge coin
15:02 pankkake lol
15:02 asciilifeform ж
15:02 kakobrekla so croatian would say "dođcoin"
15:02 pankkake ツ
15:02 jurov ж isn't ž only?
15:02 jurov not dž ?
15:03 kakobrekla seems more like ž yea
15:03 asciilifeform herr tito, famously: 'Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle... If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.'
15:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.00487712 = 1.073 BTC [+] {6}
15:05 kakobrekla >I was hoping you could point me in the right direction. I see that your company is involved with bitcoin. We are hosting the CryptoCurrency Convention in NYC on April 9th. We wanted to reach out to see if a partnership opportunity would be both appropriate and mutually beneficial.
15:05 kakobrekla jurov got any of taht?
15:06 jurov no, because noobs can't understand what coinbr is about
15:06 kakobrekla heh
15:06 jurov i fear the day when i simplify the frontpage text
15:07 jurov i only get email from vulturescammer and the like
15:07 kakobrekla ok so here is the rest of the pump email
15:07 kakobrekla The event is being held at the Hilton Midtown Manhattan and over 25,000 sq/ ft will be dedicated to exhibits, speakers, attendees and investors.
15:07 kakobrekla
15:07 kakobrekla We have a very wide range of sponsorships and promotional items to suit any appetite and will over-deliver on all of them. VIP Parties, Special Events and Hackathons have also proven to be beneficial beyond branding and exposure. New York City makes anything possible. We are expecting 1500-2000 attendees.
15:07 kakobrekla
15:07 kakobrekla We are looking for support from others like yourself in the CryptoCurrency Ecosystem. Education and exposure is how we all win.
15:07 kakobrekla
15:07 kakobrekla Please take a few moments to look over our and know that we are humbled to be involved with bitcoin and CryptoCurrency so early. The future is bright.
15:07 kakobrekla We believe that CryptoCurrency is the future and the foundation is being set now. We are making a conscious intentional effort to collaborate with other leaders and pioneers such as yourself to bring CryptoCurrency to the people it benefits.
15:07 kakobrekla eof
15:08 pankkake "CryptoCurrency"
15:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00482746 = 0.3717 BTC [-] {6}
15:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i never used one. standard-us my entire lyf.
15:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: same
15:08 mircea_popescu haha tito @stalin
15:08 mircea_popescu stalin stopped.
15:09 kakobrekla oh yeah and the link www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com
15:09 mircea_popescu kakobrekla who's that ? nobody in particular ?
15:09 jurov Over 275 Coins Available!
15:09 jurov *closes*
15:10 kakobrekla i dont know
15:10 kakobrekla im trying to understand WHY
15:10 kakobrekla and then WHO
15:10 jurov isn't that the dud with 20000 domains?
15:10 mircea_popescu why, cause that's how you become part of bitcoin, holding a derpference.
15:10 jurov they crave exposure, ya know
15:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00481915 = 0.2554 BTC [+] {5}
15:12 kakobrekla well if doge party is not coming im split.
15:12 mircea_popescu maybe they can paint a mutt in gold this time
15:13 Duffer1 bitcoinpetes post about doge party made me cringe irl
15:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 393 @ 0.00477855 = 1.878 BTC [-] {7}
15:13 pankkake *decentralized* doge party
15:13 mircea_popescu dedoged party ?
15:13 kakobrekla dođe party you mean.
15:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.004753 = 0.3327 BTC [-]
15:14 jurov lmao i posted that link into #bitcoin.cz (full of altcoin miners)
15:14 mircea_popescu kara-djodje party!
15:14 pankkake http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140224132743 that's a shame
15:14 jurov and got immediate response:
15:15 jurov "but doge creator is not listed!"
15:15 jurov so no go
15:15 mircea_popescu The length is stored in an unsigned char type, which will overflow and wrap at 256
15:15 mircea_popescu ahahaha
15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 9981 @ 0.00498825 = 49.7877 BTC [+] {22}
15:16 mircea_popescu 3! 3 major bugs in like forever!
15:17 pankkake so you are punished for being Really Secure with long passwords
15:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.005 = 0.195 BTC [+]
15:17 pankkake by the way, there is an enormous amount of websites failing with my passwords. too long(!), characters making the thing explode…
15:17 mircea_popescu "255 chars should be enought for everyone"
15:17 jurov typing in >200 chars passphrase is paranoia
15:18 mircea_popescu anyway, past about 48 characters or so you get no actual further benefit
15:18 mircea_popescu as the hash doesn't carry the entropy iirc.
15:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.0050346 = 0.9969 BTC [+] {3}
15:19 pankkake http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/02/24/049227
15:19 Jere_Jones The yubikey can hold a static password up to 64 characters long. 200+? 4 yubikeys that you have to use in the right order?
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00504898 = 0.3282 BTC [+] {3}
15:22 nubbins` ;;seen thestringpuller
15:22 gribble thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> might not be completely your type tho :P (not super model enuff)
15:23 nubbins` okay, so we actually recorded two albums for the RPM challenge
15:23 nubbins` if anyone's interested, i've got one of them available for streaming: https://atelierbleu.bandcamp.com/
15:24 nubbins` jurov, my pgp password is ~100 chars, very cumbersome
15:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.0050099 = 1.6683 BTC [+] {2}
15:25 kakobrekla nubbins` thats the public key you dummy!
15:25 nubbins` heh
15:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 688 @ 0.00507543 = 3.4919 BTC [+] {6}
15:25 nubbins` i auth with gribs using my public key? ;(
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005099 = 0.1581 BTC [+] {2}
15:29 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7japhRg9F1qaxawwo1_500.jpg
15:29 mircea_popescu "the poor probably need them more thna you do"
15:29 nubbins` sick shoes
15:30 nubbins` heels are L-brackets
15:30 mircea_popescu mhm
15:30 nubbins` also waitaminute how do you know what my ass looks like?!
15:31 mircea_popescu i'm like the nsa
15:31 mircea_popescu except not evil.
15:31 nubbins` the nsa taps phones, not asses
15:31 mircea_popescu Rod you the sirf guy ?
15:31 assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1654587/plain/)
15:31 pankkake !b 5 -1
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00509 = 2.0462 BTC [-] {2}
15:32 mircea_popescu meh.
15:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00509 = 0.4072 BTC [-] {2}
15:33 pankkake nubbins`: what's the RPM challenge? your thing is weird
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00458829 = 1.4545 BTC [-] {11}
15:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00509 = 0.1934 BTC [-]
15:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00508 = 0.127 BTC [-]
15:35 nubbins` pankkake, the challenge is to write and record an album entirely in the month of february
15:35 mircea_popescu ello rod
15:35 nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPM_Challenge
15:36 Rod hello
15:36 mircea_popescu a there you go!
15:36 Rod yes
15:36 mircea_popescu so i read your sirf piece, and it is exactly what's needed.
15:36 nubbins` it's a popular thing here
15:36 Rod thank you
15:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 370 @ 0.0055 = 2.035 BTC
15:36 mircea_popescu so, how do i get you to spend the next decade of your life obsessively covering bitcoin stocks ?
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15:36 Rod thank you both
15:36 mircea_popescu we have a shitton of the stuff and it needs you desperately.
15:36 mircea_popescu because most of it is horrendous crap.
15:37 Rod Wow.
15:37 Rod lot of scams in this world?
15:37 asciilifeform what's sirf?
15:37 mircea_popescu rod yes
15:37 nubbins` pretty much 99% scams
15:37 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: This beauty http://sirf-online.org/2014/02/21/how-to-effortlessly-earn-a-riskless-90-on-your-bitcoins-through-the-magic-of-binary-options-trading-or-the-nigerian-email-con-tries-wall-street/
15:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://sirf-online.org/2014/02/21/how-to-effortlessly-earn-a-riskless-90-on-your-bitcoins-through-the-magic-of-binary-options-trading-or-the-nigerian-email-con-tries-wall-street/
15:37 Rod a non-profit investigative reporting foundation. We do document driven financial investigative work
15:37 mircea_popescu Rod so tell you what i'm gonna do. i'll pay you a bitcoin upfront just to show you i mean business.
15:37 Rod Thats for asciilifeform
15:38 Rod Thats generous, no need. getting the story out there, to people I dont see or know, its appreciated enough
15:38 mircea_popescu yes but let me do what i wanna do.
15:39 nubbins` try stomping your foot
15:39 mircea_popescu you're a nonprofit, you can have it there. got a donation address ?
15:39 Rod we have a paypal at sirf-online.org.....
15:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.00507663 = 1.4621 BTC [-] {3}
15:39 mircea_popescu yes well, we hate paypal.
15:39 Rod ok
15:39 mircea_popescu tell you what, get a bitcoin address up for donations, maybe some of these scrooges will sweeten the pot
15:39 Rod i mean no offense to anyone
15:40 nubbins` none taken!
15:40 Rod ok. let me do that.
15:40 mircea_popescu and other than that : here's the channel log : http://bitcoin-assets.com
15:40 mircea_popescu sifting through there you can get AT LEAST a subject a day.
15:40 mircea_popescu going back like a year.
15:40 Rod ok, wow.
15:40 mircea_popescu there is so much you can cover, you will literally not be doing anything else.
15:40 Rod wild west, frontier stuff, eh?
15:41 mircea_popescu there are some other people trying to cover things, but they're you know, doing other things.
15:41 mircea_popescu yes.
15:41 Duffer1 people trying to reinvent the wheel and reenact the history of money pretty much daily
15:41 mircea_popescu often with humorous results. often with quite painful results.
15:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15814 @ 0.00088234 = 13.9533 BTC [-]
15:41 Rod i am unfamiliar with this world; i feel like a 70 year old guy looking at the moonshot.
15:41 mircea_popescu how old are you ?
15:41 Rod 45
15:42 mircea_popescu you'll be fine, there's people older than you here
15:42 Duffer1 do you know how to/need help with setting a bitcoin wallet?
15:42 mircea_popescu course they're petrified of me, but hey.
15:42 Rod of course i get bitcoin, just did not know of the fraud possibilities
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.00508 = 1.4732 BTC [+] {2}
15:42 pankkake this channel is basically #bitcoin-curmudgeons
15:42 Duffer1 ah so you've never been to bitcointalk.org then? :P
15:42 mircea_popescu o.o
15:43 mircea_popescu Rod so wait, you have a bitcoin wallet then ?
15:43 Rod no i assuredly need help setting up a wallet
15:43 mircea_popescu ah i see.
15:43 mircea_popescu go to blockchain.info, you can set one up in like a minute
15:43 Rod duffer1, I confess i have not
15:43 mircea_popescu do not keep much value there however.
15:44 mircea_popescu getting a proper wallet will require some more downloading and reading, which i encourage you to do, but it will take time.
15:44 BingoBoingo Another good beginner wallet, runs locally https://multibit.org/
15:44 Rod ok
15:44 mircea_popescu ;;google trilema bitcoin drama timeline
15:44 gribble The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/>; The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/>; Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>
15:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00508 = 0.3048 BTC [+] {2}
15:44 mircea_popescu that first link is a decent primer i guess.
15:44 Rod is there a consensus about which is best for a non-profit like us that is not terribly sophisticated?
15:45 Duffer1 on which wallet to use?
15:45 mircea_popescu if you want to autosell your bitcoins you can prolly use bitpay
15:45 Rod yes
15:45 mircea_popescu if youwant to keep them prolly blockchain.info, or sure, multibit.org
15:46 nubbins` +1 for blockchain.info
15:46 mircea_popescu i think bitpay actually pays out to paypal ? not even sure, never used them myself.
15:46 Rod we would probably autosell since we would seek to convert to $
15:46 pankkake (but you will spend a week explaining to bitpay what your nonprofit does :p)
15:46 Rod ok
15:46 pankkake no, bitpay sends bank wires
15:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00509 = 0.4988 BTC [+]
15:47 nubbins` neobump
15:47 Duffer1 ya probably fastest to get set up on blockchain.info for a wallet address, then start bitpay kyc account procedures probably takes a while
15:47 thestringpuller paperwallets take no time at all
15:47 thestringpuller cold storage = best store of value
15:47 mircea_popescu .d
15:47 nubbins` ^
15:47 Rod ok, so I will set up one up tonight
15:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 549 @ 0.00507292 = 2.785 BTC [-] {6}
15:47 mircea_popescu good idea.
15:47 thestringpuller bitcoind is really easy to setup on linux
15:47 mircea_popescu ;;estimate
15:47 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 3756197794.67 based on data since last change | 3964540086.78 based on data for last three days
15:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00509512 = 1.0394 BTC [+] {3}
15:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 524 @ 0.000475 = 0.2489 BTC [+]
15:49 pankkake does Multibit keep the blockchain on your machine?
15:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 296 @ 0.00509512 = 1.5082 BTC [+] {4}
15:50 mircea_popescu pankkake i think it at least tries to
15:50 thestringpuller what's the command for blockchain size
15:50 pankkake that's a thing to now beforehand nowadays. cause you will spend a week downloading 18Gs
15:50 pankkake du -sh ~/.bitcoin
15:50 thestringpuller it's 18G now?
15:50 BingoBoingo pankkake: Multibit is an SPV deal
15:50 mircea_popescu it's about 18 yeah
15:50 pankkake cool, like Electrum so
15:51 thestringpuller pankkake: lol
15:51 BingoBoingo Multibit just tracks inputs and outputs, it doesn't do the client sever thing electrum does though.
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 228 @ 0.00509512 = 1.1617 BTC [+] {4}
15:52 thestringpuller $ du -sh /home/leflor/.bitcoin/
15:52 thestringpuller 18G /home/leflor/.bitcoin/
15:52 thestringpuller lol
15:52 Duffer1 the bootstrap torrent is really fast
15:52 pankkake it is fast, and it has a lot of usage. I'm uploading around ~600kbs/s all the time
15:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00509512 = 1.0547 BTC [+] {2}
15:52 BingoBoingo http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/
15:53 nubbins` cease to be traded
15:53 mircea_popescu that should be interesting
15:53 kakobrekla yeah BingoBoingo , dont take me too seriously.
15:53 nubbins` no kidding
15:53 nubbins` havelock goes down for an hour and the bet resolves as yes
15:53 BingoBoingo ;D
15:54 mircea_popescu nubbins` doesn't seem so.
15:54 nubbins` i kid
15:54 nubbins` glad they said "cease"
15:54 mircea_popescu interestingly mod priced it 6:4
15:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00509512 = 0.1936 BTC [+]
15:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49357399 = 2.4679 BTC [+] {5}
15:55 pankkake http://i.imgur.com/XSS1fJn.png 2TB!
15:55 mircea_popescu pankkake you're a good man.
15:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.49947444 = 4.4953 BTC [+] {5}
15:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00509634 = 0.1835 BTC [+] {2}
15:56 pankkake I hope 0.9 will fix sync though, because the current situation sucks
15:56 pankkake also, I have almost free bandwidth. torrents everywhere on my servers
15:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0051 = 0.3978 BTC [+]
15:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00509131 = 1.0183 BTC [-] {4}
15:58 mircea_popescu !jd
15:58 assbot Just-Dice stat: 14549 BTC profit, 40.6k BTC invested, 704.34 mio bets, 5.04 mio BTC wagered
15:58 pankkake nubbins`: I liked Mr. Holland's Opiates
15:58 nubbins` tyvm
15:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1363 @ 0.00047501 = 0.6474 BTC [+]
15:59 nubbins` our goal was to make an album that would cause children to weep
15:59 kakobrekla seems the volume went quickly to 5mio and now is kinda sluggish ?
15:59 kakobrekla or is it just me
16:00 mircea_popescu kinda
16:00 mircea_popescu i've not been watching it much, other than to marvel in disbelief how the profit just won't revert to normal.
16:00 kakobrekla heh
16:01 kakobrekla everyone is on doge dice nowdays
16:01 wao-ender :D
16:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.0051 = 0.5916 BTC [+]
16:02 kakobrekla i guess its cheaper to play martingale
16:02 wao-ender damn, that neobee stocks
16:02 mircea_popescu http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/03/140303fa_fact_khatchadourian?currentPage=all
16:02 wao-ender it's manipulated, right?
16:02 mircea_popescu check it out! i share articles from march 3, 2014!
16:02 kakobrekla how is it manipulated?
16:02 Rod Mircea, I'm gonna set up a wallet and Ill tweet you when it's done. Probably later this week as I am traveling some over the next few days.
16:02 wao-ender mircea_popescu: time travel has been proven!
16:02 Rod This has been interesting, learned a few things to be sure.
16:02 mircea_popescu rob no problem
16:02 wao-ender kakobrekla: like they investing in their own stocks?
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.0051414 = 0.8638 BTC [+]
16:03 mircea_popescu you can drop by any time, too
16:03 mircea_popescu (this is probably the best place to get in touch with me)
16:03 Rod thanks. best to duffer1 and all.
16:03 Rod will do then.
16:03 Duffer1 ^.^
16:03 wao-ender c'mon, but they rent some kind big building in that tiny town?
16:03 thestringpuller you must send mircea_popescu one female as tribute though for future questions
16:03 mike_c kakobrekla: volume hit 5m 10 days agao. the line is pretty steady.
16:03 mircea_popescu what am i going to do with more owmenz ?
16:03 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: no longer accepts btc as payment, only females
16:04 mike_c https://bitcoinproject.net/justdice.php
16:04 mike_c ^ click 'wagered'
16:04 Duffer1 the world would be a better place if Rod started poking BFL and/or ActM
16:04 mircea_popescu Duffer1 whatever he picks, he can be at it until the cows come home
16:04 jurov Duffer1: do they deserve such attention?
16:04 Duffer1 probably
16:04 kakobrekla mike_c when i click all it starts at 4.2k
16:04 Duffer1 since they're still in business
16:05 mike_c yeah, they started tracking mid october
16:05 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
16:05 kakobrekla got a chart from before that?
16:05 mike_c the big bump (and reason they aren't close to EV) was nakowa dumping 1mil in action in september i believe
16:05 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 167.0, vol: 95540.83355106 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 541.63, vol: 50366.28562481 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 563.54, vol: 19015.20618 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 548.0, vol: 29382.98207869 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 570.0, vol: 384.26445092 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 583.83016, vol: 13001.30000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 374.896089776
16:05 kakobrekla aha
16:06 kakobrekla so nakowa pumped the stats alone
16:06 twizt lol people still use gox
16:06 twizt ?
16:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 332 @ 0.0051414 = 1.7069 BTC [+]
16:06 mike_c he basically broke even (instead of losing his shirt), so they are way below EV
16:06 mircea_popescu twizt there's a bitbet bet about it going under 150
16:06 pankkake wait wasn't mtgox 300 yesterday?
16:06 mircea_popescu probably by now the only point of interest re mtgox left.
16:07 mircea_popescu pankkake yesterday was yesterday.
16:07 kakobrekla i think the size of bets over time would be an interesting metric
16:07 nubbins` http://www.picturesthatigoneanddone.com/product/david-cameron-washing-his-wifes-back
16:07 twizt well i already said it was gonna drop below 100 fwhen it was 900
16:07 kakobrekla average daily bet
16:07 twizt so bang
16:07 twizt didnt make shit off it
16:07 kakobrekla or something
16:07 nubbins` that guy is fucked
16:07 nubbins` i like him
16:07 twizt but <3 my forecasting abilities
16:07 diametric mircea_popescu: so i was looking at that bet, it says "however momentarily", so all it would take is someone to throw up a buy order for 150.1 right?
16:07 mircea_popescu so next time bet.
16:07 diametric and the bet would satisfy yes
16:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0051414 = 0.1954 BTC [+]
16:09 kakobrekla oh there is such metric
16:09 mircea_popescu diametric yeah
16:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 71 @ 0.00500008 = 0.355 BTC [-] {3}
16:10 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/751/mtgox-out-of-business-in-2014/ << there's also that
16:10 diametric thats also vague
16:10 diametric well the second part is less vague
16:10 pankkake http://bitbet.us/bet/629/mt-gox-fails-to-list-litecoin/
16:11 diametric thats a good one
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.0051414 = 0.7095 BTC [+] {2}
16:11 nubbins` leet-o
16:11 diametric theres no way they'd be adding litecoin to the trading engine now.
16:11 ThickAsThieves the title for the NEOBEE bitbet may be leading a bit, what if it just moves to some other exchange?
16:11 pankkake bitbet titles are always kinda trolly
16:11 jurov ThickAsThieves: which one? cryptostocks?
16:11 jurov lel
16:11 ThickAsThieves doesnt matter
16:11 nubbins` heh
16:12 wao-ender http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/
16:12 wao-ender jurov: ^
16:12 jurov i know
16:12 nubbins` just because you have foster parents doesn't mean you're not an orphan.
16:12 kakobrekla is cypertrade up yet
16:12 kakobrekla or whats that shemale up to
16:12 Duffer1 few weeks till launch
16:13 ThickAsThieves wouldnt the parents be LMB though?
16:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.0051414 = 0.6632 BTC [+]
16:13 jurov did LMB put 9k btc in?
16:13 nubbins` not sure there's such a thing as a perfect analogy here
16:13 ThickAsThieves doesnt need an analogy for my point anyway
16:14 * nubbins` nods
16:14 nubbins` title is indeed a poor fit
16:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.0001626 = 0.1854 BTC [+] {7}
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.0001639 = 0.1868 BTC [+]
16:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00514223 = 1.0027 BTC [+] {2}
16:19 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485033.0
16:19 nubbins` heh
16:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00514899 = 0.2986 BTC [-] {2}
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12944875 = 0.3883 BTC [-] {2}
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.00014197 = 0.1618 BTC [-] {6}
16:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+]
16:21 mike_c kakobrekla: not over time, but: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg4702939#msg4702939
16:22 kakobrekla cool thanks mike_c
16:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 437 @ 0.00514899 = 2.2501 BTC [-] {2}
16:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00486996 = 0.2094 BTC [+]
16:22 diametric scammers gonna scam.
16:23 mircea_popescu later all.
16:23 kakobrekla enjoy
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12944877 BTC [+]
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.0008638 = 0.1468 BTC [+]
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 772 @ 0.005149 = 3.975 BTC [-] {3}
16:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.005149 = 0.6591 BTC [-] {3}
16:26 nubbins` https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3305
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10622499 = 0.4249 BTC [-] {4}
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.10841922 = 1.4094 BTC [+] {6}
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00514793 = 0.4993 BTC [-] {2}
16:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48107001 = 4.8107 BTC [-] {3}
16:28 nubbins` oh, karplel resigned from the foundation?
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.48035177 = 6.7249 BTC [-] {5}
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00515 = 0.2987 BTC [+]
16:29 kakobrekla yup
16:29 kakobrekla prolly kicked out
16:29 kakobrekla you know, 'resigned'
16:29 nubbins` yeah
16:29 nubbins` tendered his resignation
16:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.00513207 = 1.2368 BTC [-] {3}
16:30 KRS-One Excuse me for a moment.
16:30 KRS-One .bait
16:30 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/0e8d30b7a79913e2208693fcd0dcb1a7/tumblr_mp9r688EMj1rvyg98o1_500.jpg
16:30 KRS-One ahh..ty...bbl
16:30 KRS-One fap fap
16:30 mike_c this bet should have been weightless
16:30 mike_c http://bitbet.us/bet/760/kuka-table-tennis-robot-to-beat-human/
16:30 ozbot BitBet - Kuka table tennis robot to beat human
16:31 kakobrekla i agree
16:32 kakobrekla at least its at 50k
16:32 kakobrekla the end weight, i mean.
16:32 mike_c yeah. but still can't get decent odds on it anymore.
16:32 mike_c i don't have a strong enough opinion to fade the weight.
16:33 mike_c should be fun to watch though.
16:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 490 @ 0.00514003 = 2.5186 BTC [-] {9}
16:34 kakobrekla yep
16:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.0050953 = 1.5694 BTC [-] {8}
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00502 = 0.502 BTC [-] {2}
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00519973 = 0.4992 BTC [+] {2}
16:38 Jere_Jones mike_c "fade the weight"? What does that mean?
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 182 @ 0.00511819 = 0.9315 BTC [-] {7}
16:38 mike_c um.. here's a bad definition: http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/generalterms/g/fade.htm
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00503697 = 0.5037 BTC [-] {3}
16:39 mike_c it basically means i can't give up the odds the weight is laying. the weight being the decreasing odds that bitbets offer as the bet goes on
16:40 Jere_Jones ok
16:40 kakobrekla basically on bets that you perceive close to 50:50 it only makes sense to bet when the weight is high or the yes to no ratio skewed badly
16:40 Jere_Jones That makes sense
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00528999 = 0.4761 BTC [+]
16:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.005288 = 0.8408 BTC [-] {4}
16:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00529 = 0.4761 BTC [+]
16:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]
16:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00529 = 1.0157 BTC [+] {2}
16:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]
16:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1107 @ 0.00529396 = 5.8604 BTC [+] {3}
16:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1010101 BTC [-]
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0053794 = 0.4304 BTC [+] {2}
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00538242 = 0.1884 BTC [+] {2}
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 274 @ 0.00537932 = 1.4739 BTC [-] {3}
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 186 @ 0.00539 = 1.0025 BTC [+]
16:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 394 @ 0.00539 = 2.1237 BTC [+] {4}
16:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 312 @ 0.00539048 = 1.6818 BTC [+] {3}
16:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC
16:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 569 @ 0.00538789 = 3.0657 BTC [-] {3}
16:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 533 @ 0.00539 = 2.8729 BTC [+] {3}
17:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 385 @ 0.00539561 = 2.0773 BTC [+] {5}
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.12944885 = 1.9417 BTC [+]
17:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.00539315 = 2.7235 BTC [-] {4}
17:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00088262 = 13.1069 BTC [+]
17:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00539427 = 0.6527 BTC [+] {3}
17:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00540561 = 0.2054 BTC [+] {2}
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.0054888 = 0.1208 BTC [+]
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 783 @ 0.0005 = 0.3915 BTC [+] {3}
17:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1969 @ 0.00548967 = 10.8092 BTC [+] {8}
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15813 @ 0.00088229 = 13.9517 BTC [-] {2}
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00548983 = 0.2745 BTC [+] {2}
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 531 @ 0.00050098 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}
17:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005491 = 0.2746 BTC [+] {2}
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
17:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 208 @ 0.0054916 = 1.1423 BTC [+] {4}
17:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00088154 = 35.0412 BTC [-] {5}
17:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 285 @ 0.00549989 = 1.5675 BTC [+] {5}
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12944885 = 0.2589 BTC [+]
17:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 445 @ 0.00549988 = 2.4474 BTC [-] {3}
17:16 Jere_Jones https://www.lmb-holdings.com/transfer-shares/transer-havelock/ is misspelled
17:16 ozbot LMB Subsidiaries Ltd. :: Transfer to Havelock
17:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1227 @ 0.00545819 = 6.6972 BTC [-] {7}
17:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.00549978 = 0.5115 BTC [+] {5}
17:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00549 = 0.2745 BTC [-]
17:19 ThickAsThieves thx
17:19 Jere_Jones np
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.00549 = 1.087 BTC [-] {2}
17:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 293 @ 0.00539001 = 1.5793 BTC [-]
17:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 365 @ 0.00539 = 1.9674 BTC [-]
17:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1220 @ 0.00543917 = 6.6358 BTC [+] {5}
17:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00549 = 0.4502 BTC [+]
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.005385 = 0.1454 BTC [-]
17:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.12725555 = 1.1453 BTC [-] {3}
17:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005385 = 0.1669 BTC [-] {2}
17:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00549 = 0.6314 BTC [+] {3}
17:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00549 = 2.196 BTC [+]
17:36 kakobrekla !t h neobee
17:36 assbot [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00319950 / 0.00421939 / 0.00549989 (154736 shares, 652.89206160 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.0038483 / 0.00549989 (239039 shares, 919.89314653 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.0035176 / 0.00549989 (373079 shares, 1312.34442293 BTC)
17:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.00549099 = 1.3508 BTC [+] {3}
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.00549 = 0.1043 BTC [-] {2}
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0609 = 0.4263 BTC [+]
17:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00549 = 0.3678 BTC [-] {2}
17:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00549 = 0.7412 BTC [-] {2}
17:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 959 @ 0.00533258 = 5.1139 BTC [-] {13}
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.0053 = 2.6765 BTC [-]
17:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00087541 = 7.0033 BTC [-]
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1175 @ 0.0055 = 6.4625 BTC
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00529999 = 0.6254 BTC [-] {2}
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12699987 = 0.508 BTC [-]
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12699988 BTC [+]
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 287 @ 0.00522753 = 1.5003 BTC [-] {4}
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0051 = 0.3876 BTC [-] {4}
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12699988 = 0.254 BTC [+]
17:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0055 = 0.165 BTC
17:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00510365 = 0.6992 BTC [-] {8}
17:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00502448 = 4.0196 BTC [-] {5}
17:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 469 @ 0.00504603 = 2.3666 BTC [+] {7}
17:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.127 = 0.254 BTC [+]
17:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.005 = 0.125 BTC [-]
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC [-]
18:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12699999 = 0.381 BTC [-]
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 361 @ 0.00496998 = 1.7942 BTC [-] {5}
18:03 Bugpowderr kakobrekla: got the chart
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 602 @ 0.0048072 = 2.8939 BTC [-] {11}
18:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12889999 = 0.2578 BTC [+]
18:05 peterl looks like neobee is entering the 'dump' stage of the pump and dump
18:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00469 = 0.4456 BTC [-]
18:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1321 @ 0.00457547 = 6.0442 BTC [-] {11}
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.004505 = 0.1577 BTC [-]
18:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2010 @ 0.00402312 = 8.0865 BTC [-] {10}
18:09 kakobrekla anything interesting ?
18:09 Bugpowderr yes but I need more data now
18:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00401 = 3.208 BTC [-]
18:10 kakobrekla anything reasonable?
18:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10855 = 0.2171 BTC [+] {2}
18:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1065 @ 0.00400222 = 4.2624 BTC [-] {4}
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00400666 = 1.0017 BTC [+] {2}
18:13 Bugpowderr Sorry doing an experiment
18:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 162 @ 0.004 = 0.648 BTC [-] {2}
18:15 Bugpowderr The address at one point moves 437,000 BTC, then bifurcates that several times into smaller addresses, some of which eventually get returned to the green address. Let's call these putative cold storage addresses.
18:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06089999 = 0.1218 BTC [+]
18:15 Bugpowderr How do I do that ghost thing so I can get my nick back?
18:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
18:18 Bugpowderr http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu
18:18 ozbot Gox Analysis - Imgur
18:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.0008214 = 0.4107 BTC [-] {2}
18:21 Jere_Jones Does that mean that about half the original btc are sitting roughly 2 hops away from the green address?
18:21 Jere_Jones nm. I, apparently, can't read a label.
18:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4211 @ 0.00087541 = 3.6864 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00439 = 0.1493 BTC [-]
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
18:23 ThickAsThieves not sure how to read that chart, does it need a timeline?
18:23 Bugpowderr kakobrekla: I need a JSON of all transactions that have 1 input and two outputs from block 156631 thru 156900.
18:24 Bugpowderr ThickAsThieves: the x axis is a timeline (in transaction #)
18:24 kakobrekla k
18:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00414564 = 4.2949 BTC [-] {12}
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
18:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4805 BTC [+]
18:24 ThickAsThieves transaction qty, or #
18:24 Bugpowderr Then we can see all the putative cold storage addresses, and how many eventually pour back into the green address
18:25 ThickAsThieves so what's to be gleaned so far?
18:25 kakobrekla em, you mean all from that list or all tx on the network
18:25 Bugpowderr ThickAsThieves: sequential... I will replot it based on block ID
18:25 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
18:26 Bugpowderr kakobrekla: I mean for the network.... Is there a tool I can use to scrape this out of the block chain data myself?
18:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12889999 BTC [+]
18:26 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
18:26 kakobrekla well any blockchain parser is such tool
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48001 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12889999 = 0.2578 BTC [+]
18:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.004389 = 0.3862 BTC [+] {2}
18:27 Bugpowderr ok I will try to figure that out... Doing lots of stuff at the moment
18:27 Bugpowderr Anyway... That block range is the key block range I think MtGox set up their cold addresses in.
18:28 kakobrekla i pinged my bois, mebbe ill get a reply tomorro
18:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 509 @ 0.00403844 = 2.0556 BTC [-] {5}
18:28 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]
18:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00438062 = 0.3504 BTC [+] {3}
18:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00439999 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}
18:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00439971 = 1.0999 BTC [-] {3}
18:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12699998 = 0.381 BTC [-]
18:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 307 @ 0.00439826 = 1.3503 BTC [-] {3}
18:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0044 = 0.1364 BTC [+] {3}
18:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00469999 = 0.47 BTC [+] {2}
18:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00088076 = 11.7141 BTC [+]
18:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.00450259 = 1.1121 BTC [-] {6}
18:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12699998 = 0.254 BTC [-]
18:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0049 = 0.245 BTC [+]
18:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 430 @ 0.00490894 = 2.1108 BTC [+] {3}
18:40 Bugpowderr ThickAsThieves: Updated http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu
18:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00497435 = 0.194 BTC [+] {3}
18:42 ThickAsThieves what amount of confidence do you have, after your next set of data processing, in fully identifying all of gox's coins
18:42 Bugpowderr 0%
18:42 ThickAsThieves hehe
18:42 Bugpowderr There is no way to be sure
18:42 ThickAsThieves i suppose you cna only prove they DO have them with some confidence
18:42 ThickAsThieves not that they dont
18:42 Bugpowderr but we can see if there are some patterns and get a feeling for it
18:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.005 = 0.7 BTC [+]
18:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00088147 = 2.1296 BTC [+]
18:43 Bugpowderr and there is a very clear pattern starting here https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805
18:43 ThickAsThieves a pattern showing what?
18:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.005 = 0.12 BTC [+]
18:44 Bugpowder A repeated and quick bifurcation of funds
18:44 Bugpowder addresses getting cut in half 5 of 6 times, then sitting for a while, some going back into the green address.
18:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 436 @ 0.00495229 = 2.1592 BTC [-] {3}
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28864 @ 0.00088258 = 25.4748 BTC [+] {2}
18:46 ThickAsThieves why would they do that?
18:46 ThickAsThieves i cna understand breaking it up into other wallets, by why go back to the green one?
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00494999 = 0.2475 BTC [-]
18:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19972 @ 0.00088147 = 17.6047 BTC [-]
18:49 Bugpowder ThickAsThieves: To top up the withdrawals? Maybe the green address is their hot wallet?
18:50 * nubbins` scratches head
18:50 nubbins` but why bifurcate 5 times on the way from cold to hot?
18:51 ThickAsThieves only reason to split is security right?
18:52 Bugpowder kakobrekla: I think I can scrape the specific blocks I need from block chain.info
18:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00494999 = 0.1732 BTC [-] {3}
18:53 nubbins` so they're taking a huge cold wallet and splitting it into several smaller cold wallets and one hot wallet
18:53 Bugpowder nubbins`: Correct
18:53 Bugpowder more like a huge hot wallet and splitting into many cold
18:53 * nubbins` nods
18:53 nubbins` right, sure
18:53 Bugpowder which occasionally get pushed back to the hot
18:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18275 @ 0.00016906 = 3.0896 BTC [+] {10}
18:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8303 @ 0.00019433 = 1.6135 BTC [+] {12}
19:07 fract4l http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77745633839/bitcoins-apocalyptic-moment-mt-gox-may-have-lost
19:08 fract4l gox lost 750k btc
19:08 zoinky LOL
19:09 zoinky two bit idiot
19:09 Namworld lol whut. This is golden bullshit right at the first paragraph. Gotta read that.
19:09 fract4l sell your goxcoins on builder ASAP
19:10 fract4l going to zero
19:10 zoinky oh the fud
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1021 @ 0.0002 = 0.2042 BTC [+] {3}
19:13 Bugpowder I'm hooping my analysis is somewhat more reality based
19:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.00491995 = 1.2054 BTC [-] {5}
19:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.004919 = 0.305 BTC [-] {2}
19:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 128 @ 0.0055 = 0.704 BTC
19:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00491899 = 0.7428 BTC [-] {3}
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489925 = 0.9799 BTC [-] {2}
19:22 dignork fract4l: apparently one of your nicks was PanicSellBTC, or maybe just ip match, but still, good luck
19:23 MisterE where is the bottom?
19:23 fract4l dignork: hahah. how did you look that up
19:23 MisterE this feels like it
19:23 MisterE time to buy eh?
19:23 mike_c wait.. are you saying gox is insolvent??
19:23 dignork fract4l: otcdb street magic
19:24 fract4l url?
19:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.0055 = 0.825 BTC {2}
19:24 fract4l i really should start using vps's more often
19:24 KRS-One yea
19:25 fract4l can anyone recommend a good one that takes BTC w/ instant setup?
19:25 mike_c fract4l can i sell you my bitcoin? i'll send first.
19:26 fract4l $1 each. thnx
19:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.06089999 = 0.4263 BTC [+]
19:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00489999 = 0.2156 BTC [+]
19:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00475759 = 0.4377 BTC [-] {6}
19:34 dexX7 must be legit - "bitcoin" (not "Bitcoin", well at least sometimes), "Blockchain.info" (not blockchain.info) and round quotation marks.. matches the style used in previous statements ;)
19:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00455327 = 0.9107 BTC [-] {9}
19:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00486973 = 0.3652 BTC [+] {3}
19:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00489 = 0.2201 BTC [+]
19:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 326 @ 0.00489352 = 1.5953 BTC [+] {3}
19:37 KRS-One are u guys watching these marekts
19:38 KRS-One this is monumental
19:38 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
19:38 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 137.90103, vol: 102195.07906128 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 512.52, vol: 52396.43876218 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 544.756, vol: 21501.47774 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 33888.95997588 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 560.98, vol: 379.37892913 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 573.17836, vol: 13452.49200000 | Volume-weighted last average: 348.666592134
19:39 ThickAsThieves what hapnd?
19:40 ThickAsThieves some guy posted a blog with no data?
19:40 ThickAsThieves lol
19:40 Namworld yes
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00489 = 0.2347 BTC [-]
19:40 nubbins` on his tumblr, no less
19:40 Bugpowder jumpy folks
19:41 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/playboy-plus-accepting-bitcoin-payments/
19:41 ThickAsThieves moon the moon!
19:41 Bugpowder The good news is that I have interfaced matlab with block chain.info so I can spider through these addresses instead of hand analyzing them
19:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18622 @ 0.0008827 = 16.4376 BTC [+] {2}
19:41 mike_c wow. that sounds cool. is it performant?
19:41 Bugpowder Soon we will see what happened to the cold wallets.
19:42 mike_c did i just make up a word? what i meant is it is fast?
19:42 Bugpowder I doubt it
19:42 nubbins` heh
19:42 Bugpowder 2 seconds per block
19:42 dignork Bugpowder: how do you locate the wallets? I mean what are the graph scan conditions?
19:42 Bugpowder but I probably only need <100 blocks
19:42 kakobrekla so no need for me to pull the data?
19:43 Bugpowder kakobrekla: correct
19:43 kakobrekla k
19:43 Bugpowder dignork: all the addresses that had near even splits off of this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489989 = 0.98 BTC [+]
19:44 Bugpowder A bunch were rapidly chained down to addresses of a few 1000 BTC each then they sat for a while
19:44 dignork Bugpowder: ok, but how do you know the owner of 1M1ZkWpHfuQthji2AVsGDvpfY2PrcXQar6 ?
19:45 Bugpowder The list may not be exhaustive though
19:45 Bugpowder dignork: That is known
19:45 Bugpowder to be mt gox
19:45 Bugpowder as the mt gox green address passes it the coins several links up the chain.
19:45 dignork Bugpowder: public sources? link?
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00489089 = 0.1076 BTC [-] {2}
19:45 nubbins` mike_c any luck with eulora?
19:45 Bugpowder http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu
19:46 ozbot Gox Analysis - Imgur
19:46 Bugpowder see inset text
19:46 mike_c pretty bad luck. chetty suggested graphics drivers. so i updated my drivers and it hosed the box.
19:46 nubbins` ah, bummer
19:46 nubbins` might be worth setting up a VM
19:46 mike_c so i reinstalled, switching from ubuntu 13 to 12.04
19:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00489 = 0.1956 BTC [-] {2}
19:46 mike_c installed drivers, ran it.
19:46 mike_c and got a seg fault even earlier than before
19:47 * nubbins` nods
19:47 KRS-One Bugpowder: matlap + blockchain ftw
19:47 KRS-One gj
19:47 KRS-One matlab
19:47 jurov yes? i got segfault too
19:47 jurov right on startup
19:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00489 = 0.4205 BTC [-] {2}
19:47 jurov (eulora)
19:47 mike_c yeah, that's where i'm at.
19:47 mike_c has anyone actually got it running?
19:48 nubbins` heh nope
19:48 nubbins` what bundle did you grab CS from, 0.0.1?
19:48 jurov 0.0.1 was working
19:48 Bugpowder I need to go record from the mouse brains... Will put this on hold for a bit.
19:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00489 = 0.1516 BTC [-]
19:48 mike_c nubbins`: yes.
19:48 Bugpowder back in a few with more data.
19:48 jurov i tried CS both from gentoo ebuild
19:49 jurov but it was 2.0 and eulora needs 2.1 ??
19:49 mike_c yeah
19:49 jurov which isn't released yet
19:49 mike_c bleeding edge
19:49 nubbins` i tried compiling a couple of 2.1 snapshots
19:49 nubbins` no dice
19:49 jurov eulora doesn't ship their CS cource?
19:50 nubbins` i feel like it's in one of the earlier bundles
19:50 nubbins` downloading em now
19:50 jurov maybe they patched it internally
19:50 jurov becuse i then used CS from 0.0.1 and it segfaults
19:50 nubbins` ha
19:51 nubbins` i mean, ah
19:51 nubbins` wasnt laughing :(
19:51 jurov you!
19:51 jurov :D
19:51 nubbins` D:
19:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00489 = 0.1663 BTC [-]
19:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00488899 = 0.5476 BTC [-] {2}
19:52 nubbins` i'm gonna set up a wordpress blog in the next couple days so we can have a permanent home for compiling/troubleshooting etc info
19:53 mike_c good idea
19:53 mike_c maybe wiki?
19:53 nubbins` not much experience with wikis
19:53 nubbins` and wordpress is free ;D
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489647 = 0.9793 BTC [+] {3}
19:53 mike_c so is wikimedia. just could be good to let anyone edit it
19:54 nubbins` free hosting?
19:54 mike_c lemme look
19:54 nubbins` didn't think so, but honestly don't know
19:54 jurov you can ask chetty if it can be right on minigame.bz, no?
19:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00489989 = 0.3283 BTC [+] {2}
19:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.125 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2}
19:56 mike_c meh, http://wikkii.com/wiki/Free_Wiki_Hosting
19:56 mike_c i'd be willing to host one if there's interest.
19:56 nubbins` http://wikkii.com/wiki/Features
19:56 ozbot Features - Free Wiki Hosting - Wikkii - Free MediaWiki Host
19:56 nubbins` hm.
19:56 jurov i have nice and horribly underutilized php hosting at gandi, too
19:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.004899 = 0.4899 BTC [-]
19:57 nubbins` well i've got a saucy domain name
19:57 jurov only use that free hosting if they allow backups
19:57 nubbins` with our powers combined...
19:57 mike_c btcalpha isn't exactly crumbling under the traffic load :)
19:57 jurov welll... what about the jursdiction
19:57 mike_c saucy domain name? what is it?
19:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.0048925 = 0.2642 BTC [-] {3}
19:58 nubbins` eulorum.org
19:58 nubbins` oh, CS in 0.0.1 is precompiled? i can't use this D:
19:59 nubbins` (eulorum being both the singular of eulora and a portmanteau of "eulora" and "forum")
19:59 mike_c i like it. so we have a domain name. what about software? any suggestions better than wikimedia?
20:00 nubbins` i gotta say, i don't really like wikis
20:00 nubbins` too disorganized
20:00 mike_c you think blog style is better than community edit?
20:01 jurov anything can get disorganized
20:01 nubbins` well, if you give a few people write access
20:01 nubbins` it's not a huge effort to modify, say, a post about compile instructions based on feedback in comments
20:02 nubbins` that said, blog comments aren't great for back-and-forth
20:03 nubbins` oof, lel, the first three links on http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ all point to 0.0.1
20:03 mike_c i prefer wiki-style, but you're the one with the hot domain name
20:03 nubbins` just re-downloaded it ;(
20:03 nubbins` jurov's the one with the underutilized hosting
20:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00489971 = 1.4699 BTC [+] {5}
20:04 jurov mike_c has hosrting, too. but it's in the US?
20:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0049 = 0.196 BTC [+]
20:05 mike_c virginia. it's good stuff, very close to nsa for easy monitoring.
20:05 nubbins` heh
20:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0049 = 0.196 BTC [+]
20:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00088342 = 5.3447 BTC [+]
20:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12225225 = 0.489 BTC [-] {2}
20:06 nubbins` well, doesn't matter much to me who hosts it, why don't you guys flip a ;;coin or have an armwrestle or something
20:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00485 = 0.3589 BTC [-]
20:08 jurov well, i'd be like, here's sftp account, diy
20:08 jurov maybe mike can help more?
20:08 mike_c i'd be fine with putting something up
20:09 mike_c i mean, if it's wordpress we can just let them host. but i can throw up a wiki if that's the decision.
20:09 nubbins` let's try a wiki and see what happens
20:09 mike_c ok
20:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00489999 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
20:10 nubbins` PM me dns servers and i'll update
20:10 mike_c sure. i'll set it up tomorrow and send you info.
20:10 nubbins` lovely!
20:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 716 @ 0.00492927 = 3.5294 BTC [+] {3}
20:11 jurov good. i'm at amazon, too, if you need sth
20:12 * nubbins` nods
20:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2020 @ 0.00498917 = 10.0781 BTC [+] {3}
20:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00499873 = 2.4894 BTC [+] {3}
20:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.108555 = 0.6513 BTC [+] {2}
20:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06089999 = 0.3045 BTC [-]
20:13 MisterE " MisterE, the volume numbers on MPOE for depth are complete and utter nonesense, he's claiming that his ultra thinly traded virtual stock trading on it's own market is worth more than a mtgox because the spot price was ludicrous"
20:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 670 @ 0.005 = 3.35 BTC [+] {5}
20:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.109 = 0.436 BTC [+] {2}
20:15 nubbins` the coffee i'm drinking is worth more than gox
20:16 MisterE lol
20:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10994 BTC [+]
20:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0609 = 0.1218 BTC [+]
20:16 MisterE this was back at the time
20:16 MisterE note date nubbins` http://trilema.com/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/
20:16 bit14 !last havelock neobee
20:16 assbot Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.005 BTC [+]
20:17 nubbins` heh
20:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10995 = 0.3299 BTC [+]
20:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.16230094 = 0.8115 BTC [-] {2}
20:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [+] {3}
20:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.005 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2}
20:27 jurov !t m x.eur
20:27 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.002 / 0.00205889 / 0.0021 (849 shares, 1.75 BTC), 7D: 0.002 / 0.00211812 / 0.00226762 (3958 shares, 8.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00166114 / 0.00187389 / 0.00226762 (16869 shares, 31.61 BTC)
20:28 jurov ;;calc 1/0.00211812
20:28 gribble 472.116782807
20:28 jurov ;;bc,convert eur
20:28 gribble 1 BTC = 529.12 USD = 385.19936 eur
20:29 jurov mhm
20:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00088152 = 11.1953 BTC [-] {2}
20:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.005 = 0.54 BTC [+] {2}
20:32 pankkake http://www.reddit.com/r/LivingWageCoin/
20:32 ozbot Crytocurrency of the Working Man
20:33 nubbins` crytocurrency
20:33 nubbins` protected by crytography
20:33 nubbins` comlicated crytograhy
20:34 dignork lol: coins are generated at the discretion of the chairman
20:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49225 = 0.9845 BTC [+] {2}
20:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00488573 = 1.2214 BTC [-] {4}
20:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004999 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
20:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 302 @ 0.00485987 = 1.4677 BTC [-] {4}
20:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12879992 = 0.3864 BTC [+]
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12879992 = 0.5152 BTC [+]
20:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
20:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12879993 = 0.3864 BTC [+]
20:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.004999 = 0.175 BTC [+] {2}
21:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 417 @ 0.00499899 = 2.0846 BTC [-]
21:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.12884496 = 2.5769 BTC [+] {3}
21:05 kakobrekla o look
21:05 kakobrekla scammer is now tv host
21:05 kakobrekla http://www.moneyandtech.com/feb24-news-update/
21:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 499 @ 0.0049999 = 2.495 BTC [+]
21:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00499999 = 0.775 BTC [+] {3}
21:08 nubbins` ah hey, mintchip
21:08 nubbins` forgot about that
21:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.005 = 1 BTC [+]
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.005 = 0.7 BTC [+] {3}
21:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00499946 = 3.7496 BTC [-] {3}
21:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00088346 = 3.1805 BTC [+]
21:26 Bugpowder Take this with a grain of salt http://www.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft
21:26 Bugpowder Also gox is halted
21:27 the20year yep
21:29 nubbins` on the bright side, i'm getting further with compiling crystal space on osx
21:29 mike_c i just got it running on a VM. it wasn't 100% healthy, but it ran.
21:30 mike_c i picked up some rotten fruit.
21:30 nubbins` right on!!
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.128 = 0.256 BTC [-]
21:30 * nubbins` high fives
21:30 nubbins` congrats
21:30 nubbins` you may be the first pleb to successfully get 0.0.4 running
21:30 mike_c :) hopefully i can run it on an actual machine and get better performance
21:30 nubbins` nod, now the real work begins
21:31 nubbins` VMs present pretty standard hardware
21:31 the20year $488
21:31 ThickAsThieves people should rally the price to make sure gox dies
21:32 greenspan_fan so, thoughts on the legitimacy of the my gox slide deck?
21:33 nubbins` the one that came from some random nobody's tumblr, you mean? :D
21:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00499899 = 1.0348 BTC [-]
21:33 nubbins` i doubt he would have done such a thing just to drive traffic to his blog. which happens to be a tumblr.
21:33 nubbins` ;p
21:34 nubbins` CS still compiling... occasional bouts of panic until i realize they're warnings i'm seeing, not errors
21:34 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1yuox1/copy_of_the_alleged/cfny2g0
21:34 ozbot scottansan comments on Copy of the alleged MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft
21:34 greenspan_fan yeah, a guy on hacker news suggests that the redacted slide is visible using illustrator
21:34 greenspan_fan http://i.imgur.com/u9aP9Hg.png
21:35 kakobrekla gox halted?
21:35 kakobrekla does it seem like a good time?
21:36 kakobrekla mark sez price is 135, halts gox at 135.
21:36 ThickAsThieves i can check the PDF in a sec
21:36 greenspan_fan I just don't know.
21:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2}
21:36 greenspan_fan on the one hand, gox is run so badly
21:36 greenspan_fan but on the other, this would be the finest example of internet trolling meets market manipulation in recent memory
21:36 kakobrekla so badly it makes bitstamp look good
21:36 nubbins` ugh, i don't want to sign up for a scribd account
21:37 nubbins` someone paste a dropbox link etc to that pdf?
21:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.005 = 0.485 BTC [+] {3}
21:37 dexX7 http://de.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft
21:37 ozbot MtGox Situation: Crisis Strategy Draft
21:37 the20year from scribd?
21:37 ThickAsThieves i can confirm
21:37 nubbins` i want to download it, it's asking me to log in
21:37 nubbins` ah, k
21:37 ThickAsThieves the redactions are removable
21:37 nubbins` such lel
21:38 dexX7 did you really consider this could be real? =D
21:38 nubbins` there was an occasion a few years ago here where some government department decided to redact their own docs
21:38 greenspan_fan do the amounts seem plausible?
21:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02163333 = 0.1298 BTC [-] {3}
21:38 nubbins` they did this by changing the background color to black in a Word doc.
21:39 ThickAsThieves the amounts must be in shorthand
21:39 ThickAsThieves thousands maybe?
21:39 greenspan_fan yeah, thousands usd
21:40 Jakamoko shit that is a lot
21:40 nubbins` kibibucks
21:40 ThickAsThieves maybe 10,000
21:40 nubbins` no, sorry, kilobucks
21:40 nubbins` i'm all mixed up
21:40 ThickAsThieves salary would be too low for 1000
21:40 greenspan_fan april 2015- march 2016 "other" is 150,000
21:41 dexX7 nubbins`: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhl8b6k1rya78xc/209050732-MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft.pdf
21:41 ThickAsThieves i dunnp these numbers seem weird
21:41 nubbins` dexX7: tyvm, got it
21:41 greenspan_fan yeah, this seems like either a genius ploy
21:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.0008835 = 23.1035 BTC [+] {2}
21:41 greenspan_fan or there really is a consulting firm as lousy as mt gox is an exchange
21:42 nubbins` "The reality is that MtGox can go bankrupt at any moment, and certainly deserves to as a company"
21:42 nubbins` ^ so fake
21:42 nubbins` who the fuck would put a sentence like that in an internal memo?
21:43 ThickAsThieves PDF was made in Mac OS
21:43 ThickAsThieves no other metadata i can see
21:44 ThickAsThieves made with keynote_cirrus
21:44 nubbins` seems like a poorly-orchestrated smear
21:44 nubbins` complete with fake-redactions
21:44 Jakamoko doesn't look real, but it is working. bitstamp is sliding under 500
21:45 nubbins` eeeee, ton of deprecated method calls
21:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.005 = 0.18 BTC [+]
21:46 greenspan_fan another possibility is that the pdf is substantially accurate, but still fabricated
21:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1169 @ 0.005 = 5.845 BTC [+]
21:46 the20year alot of people are assuming alot of things
21:46 ThickAsThieves created date for the PDF is tomorrow
21:46 ThickAsThieves weird
21:47 ThickAsThieves guess it leans to it being from asia
21:47 ThickAsThieves fwiw
21:47 greenspan_fan yeah, I would bet on it being fake
21:48 dexX7 Ryan Selkis
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.0051823 = 0.596 BTC [+] {2}
21:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0002002 = 0.2002 BTC [+]
21:48 dexX7 blacked out the numbers
21:49 dexX7 at least his name is bound to the note
21:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.0052526 = 0.7669 BTC [+] {2}
21:50 nubbins` ugh
21:50 nubbins` ryan selkis
21:50 nubbins` aka "the two-bit idiot"
21:50 the20year Who's that?
21:50 nubbins` aka the guy whose tumblr blog this story came from.
21:50 dexX7 that's him?
21:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-]
21:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 280 @ 0.00529157 = 1.4816 BTC [+] {4}
21:50 nubbins` http://www.meetup.com/Harvard-Bitcoin-Meetup/members/67850542/
21:50 ozbot Ryan Selkis -
21:51 nubbins` BUSTED
21:51 dexX7 yea, but is thsi the guy from the stupid blog?
21:51 dexX7 because there is https://twitter.com/RyanSelkis etc.
21:51 Apocalyptic the funny thing is that the halt was after the doc got released
21:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05030097 = 0.1006 BTC [-]
21:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00540514 = 0.5243 BTC [+] {5}
21:52 nubbins` http://bitcoinaware.com/article/8861/bitbeat-apple-drops-bitcoin-app-from-app-store-bitcoiners-not-happy/
21:52 ozbot Bitcoin Aware | Aritcles | BitBeat: Apple Drops Bitcoin App From App Store, Bitcoiners Not Happy
21:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 321 @ 0.00545 = 1.7495 BTC [+] {8}
21:52 greenspan_fan well, yeah
21:52 nubbins` "...wrote Ryan Selkis, who publishes the “Two-Bit Idiot” daily newsletter"
21:53 nubbins` http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/11/bitbeat-bitcoins-honest-nodes-under-attack/
21:53 ozbot BitBeat: Bitcoin’s ‘Honest Nodes’ Under Attack - MoneyBeat - WSJ
21:53 nubbins` "...Ryan Selkis wrote in his Two-Bit Idiot newsletter"
21:53 nubbins` lel x 5
21:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00545 = 0.5777 BTC [+] {4}
21:53 dexX7 ah hehehe
21:54 nubbins` so either this guy fabricated the whole thing
21:54 ThickAsThieves “I am livid, just like so many of you,” wrote Ryan Selkis, who publishes the “Two-Bit Idiot” daily newsletter. “For them to backdoor their users like this on Bitcoin makes me want to start an uprising. (I think others may have already started it though.)”
21:54 nubbins` or he found a legit doc and self-redacted a bunch of info for no reason
21:54 greenspan_fan I am trying to find a btc address to see if he's dumb enough to be buying massively after releasing damaging news
21:54 ThickAsThieves well itd be on exchange
21:54 ThickAsThieves so probly not seeable
21:55 greenspan_fan alas and alack, he's not blatantly asking for tips somewhere
21:55 greenspan_fan meanwhile, every exchange is down 20% while the dude's launching some kind of btc venture fund
21:55 ThickAsThieves true or not, fukn bitcoin is amazing!
21:55 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
21:55 nubbins` hahahahahah what a fucking rube, you can just highlight the goddamn redacted text
21:55 nubbins` MY SIDES
21:55 ThickAsThieves best trolls ever
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12300001 = 0.492 BTC [-]
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00545 = 0.109 BTC [+]
21:56 greenspan_fan yeah. I will further speculate that it's his hoax, because the slide deck is all about social media and assorted bullshit
21:57 the20year where is this redacted balance sheet from?
21:57 dexX7 the black on the text is simply a comment, you can delete it or set the transparency to 0
21:57 greenspan_fan when it should go into detail about the whole "not going bankrupt and not going to jail" plan
21:57 greenspan_fan here's the imgur link of the unredacted page
21:57 greenspan_fan http://i.imgur.com/u9aP9Hg.png
21:57 nubbins` dexX7 nod
21:57 nubbins` my sides
21:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.0055 = 0.1045 BTC
21:58 nubbins` actually in osx preview it's not even black but translucent grey
21:58 greenspan_fan of course, the rebranding as "gox.com" is hilarious, too
21:58 greenspan_fan "drop the mt, it's cleaner"
21:58 ThickAsThieves there are no MX records for gox.com fwiw
21:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
21:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00549039 = 0.6479 BTC [+] {3}
21:59 nubbins` as is the "we are a bunch of cunts who shouldn't be in business" line
21:59 nubbins` like
21:59 nubbins` srsly, does he even internet?
21:59 nubbins` does he even business?
22:00 ThickAsThieves i actually approve of the brand change
22:00 ThickAsThieves :)
22:00 Guest88068 http://blog.coinbase.com/post/77766809700/joint-statement-regarding-the-insolvency-of-mtgox
22:00 ThickAsThieves fake or not, the current one is offensive
22:01 ThickAsThieves wtf is that statement
22:02 ThickAsThieves they are confirming the insolvency, or trolled too?
22:02 ThickAsThieves they should have been explicit
22:03 greenspan_fan haha
22:03 greenspan_fan man this is fucking great
22:03 dexX7 wow
22:03 the20year i got kicked from #bitcoin for posting that
22:03 greenspan_fan the biggest coinbase booster somehow stumbles onto documents pertaining to the demise of coinbase's biggest rival
22:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.005491 = 0.291 BTC [+]
22:04 ThickAsThieves maybe it's the USG!
22:04 greenspan_fan and, fwiw, the whole shitstorm started with the guy posting a link to his own tumblr on reddit
22:04 Apocalyptic <ThickAsThieves> they are confirming the insolvency // I feel like they are
22:04 ThickAsThieves they really wanted that US-based dominant exchange
22:04 ThickAsThieves that's the propblem Apoc
22:04 ThickAsThieves it's all "feely"
22:04 Apocalyptic yeah
22:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 183 @ 0.005495 = 1.0056 BTC [+] {2}
22:05 ThickAsThieves wtf is wrong with companies these days
22:05 ThickAsThieves be clear, christ
22:05 dub__ s/compnies/dude in moms basement/
22:05 greenspan_fan well, clarity opens you up to legal liabilities
22:05 cazalla whois gox.com does show karpeles though
22:05 greenspan_fan for fraud/libel
22:06 copumpkin cazalla: you can put anyone's info on a domain
22:06 ThickAsThieves cazalla those whois arent verified
22:06 ThickAsThieves look up therealaltcoin.org
22:06 greenspan_fan but a three letter domain's expensive
22:06 cazalla yeah that
22:06 greenspan_fan it could just be fortuitous timing?
22:06 cazalla i don't see someone using a premium 3 letter domain to push a scam
22:06 dexX7 https://www.google.de/#q=Income+Statement+Net+Sales+Cost+of+Goods+Sold+Gross+Profit+Selling%2C+General+and+Administrative+Expenses+1)+Operating+Income+212+3%2C015+20%2C000+55%2C850+Interest+Income+6+7+14+40+Foreign+Exchange+Gains+76+-+-+-+Non+Operating+Result+82+7+14+40+Ordinary+Income+294+3%2C022+20%2C014+55%2C890+Corporate+Taxes+8+1%2C022+6%2C164+16%2C890+Net+Income+286+2%2C000+13%2C850+39%2C000+1)+Breakdown
22:06 ozbot Google
22:06 greenspan_fan or maybe coinbase's latest pivot is into straight-up crime?
22:07 dexX7 a few words of the pdf results only the gox paper itself on google
22:07 MisterE how low will it go today
22:07 MisterE I almost bought at 550
22:07 MisterE maybe today it tests 500
22:07 ThickAsThieves it broke 500 already
22:07 greenspan_fan Top post on HN tomorrow: How we used social media, adobe illustrator, and bitcoin in order to destroy a rival business
22:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.004869 = 0.1022 BTC [+] {2}
22:08 the20year it was at 488 about 15m ago
22:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.12249 = 1.2249 BTC [-] {3}
22:09 greenspan_fan from the unredacted link, I think some of the columns literally don't add up
22:09 greenspan_fan if I'm reading it correctly
22:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.121 = 0.242 BTC [-]
22:10 cazalla i hope it's true, great buying opp
22:10 Bugpowder Well, I guess I don't really need to finish my cold wallet analysis.
22:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 294 @ 0.005495 = 1.6155 BTC [+] {2}
22:11 Apocalyptic heh Bug
22:11 nubbins` http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5
22:11 ozbot Ryan Selkis is full of shit - Imgur
22:11 dexX7 "- New brand and services ready to be launched (Bitcoin Cafe, ..." lol
22:11 the20year You guys all see that this guy runs btc-china? http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv318/mindc0ntr0l/BobbyLee.jpg
22:11 gx gox will be back, better than ever
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.12087093 = 1.8131 BTC [-] {6}
22:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00549889 = 0.4949 BTC [+]
22:12 gx people are gonna flock to their bitcoin cafe and deposit hundreds of thousands of coins
22:12 greenspan_fan that's a pretty low bar, gx
22:12 cazalla who in their right mind who use gox even if they fixed everything after all this
22:12 gx </sarc
22:12 dexX7 wow goxcoins at 0.11
22:13 greenspan_fan I wish I had an acct on bitcoin builder
22:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.120033 = 0.7202 BTC [-] {3}
22:13 greenspan_fan that is too cheap given how likely this is a hoax
22:13 the20year wonder if we could hit the 1mb limit?
22:13 gx pretty elaborate hoax though
22:13 gx but could be, yeah
22:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11482776 = 0.689 BTC [-] {3}
22:14 the20year bitcoinbuilder is at .14
22:15 Bugpowder its not a hoax dude
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.005495 = 0.3901 BTC [-]
22:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12517994 = 0.2504 BTC [+]
22:15 nubbins` Bugpowder, so why is this guy redacting these "real" PDFs himself?
22:15 ThickAsThieves hey
22:15 ThickAsThieves coinbase edited their post
22:15 nubbins` haha
22:15 ThickAsThieves to remove insolvency from it
22:16 ThickAsThieves thanks to my tweet!
22:16 cazalla that was quick
22:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00545 = 0.6867 BTC [-]
22:16 the20year http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/25/joint-statement/
22:16 ozbot Joint Statement Regarding the Insolvency of MtGox | Blockchain.info Team Blog
22:16 cazalla guess they drafted it together
22:16 nubbins` cazalla: that's what a joint statement is :)
22:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0054 = 0.216 BTC [-]
22:17 ThickAsThieves i hope they showed this to their lawyers first...
22:17 cazalla changing it after posting might suggest otherwise
22:17 ThickAsThieves indeed
22:17 the20year they redacted the 'insolvency' word
22:18 greenspan_fan if you had access to a real pdf, why would you redact everything using illustrator?
22:18 cazalla wonder how long until blockchain redact it
22:18 the20year 476
22:18 Bugpowder Well... Bitcoin-assets people called it first. Days ago.
22:18 ThickAsThieves the redaction was likely done using a 3rd party PDF editor
22:18 ThickAsThieves even adobe isnt this bad
22:19 greenspan_fan Either way, it just weakens your case
22:19 greenspan_fan and the numbers are purely speculative for the future and drawn from mt gox's reports for the past
22:19 gx greenspan_fan they forgot to mention the 200,000BTC they're gonna make w/ their cafe though. gotta weigh that in.
22:20 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: it was probably redacted with OSX Preview
22:20 gx you talking about the last page of the document where everything is blacked out?
22:20 nubbins` if it was originally created with keynote
22:20 greenspan_fan yeah
22:20 ThickAsThieves someone start a gox ipo on cryptostocks, quick!
22:20 gx is that viewable
22:20 greenspan_fan yes, see imgur links
22:20 Bugpowder ThickAsThieves: lol
22:20 nubbins` gx: you can highlight the text and copy/paste
22:20 gx ah derp
22:20 nubbins` gx: http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5
22:20 greenspan_fan but the funny thing is, it might be right anyways
22:21 ThickAsThieves indeed
22:21 greenspan_fan but if it is a hoax, and one of those 'startup ftw!' jackasses made it, then they might be sunk as well
22:21 ThickAsThieves it's gox we're talking bout after all
22:21 gx ah, so that's why it's a hoax, someone just c+p their annual report to the last page to make it seem legit?
22:21 gx am i reading that right
22:21 greenspan_fan which would be, I think, the funniest thing since pirate
22:22 gx or, projections rather
22:22 ThickAsThieves why redact it at all is the question
22:22 greenspan_fan well they've got future projections etc.
22:22 ThickAsThieves it's the least useful page
22:22 greenspan_fan because some of the columns don't seem to add up, or I'm reading it wrong?
22:22 Bugpowder Coinbase has too much money invested in it now by serious people for this to be bullshit
22:22 ThickAsThieves i cant add them either
22:22 greenspan_fan serious people put 41 million into color.com
22:22 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: to make it seem legit.
22:22 ThickAsThieves coinbase edited their blog post bug
22:23 ThickAsThieves to rmeove the insolvency accusation
22:23 ThickAsThieves they are just being opportunists
22:23 greenspan_fan you are way overestimating the intelligence of the silicon valley people
22:23 ThickAsThieves they dont know wha the fuck is what
22:23 the20year i find it interesting they're doing it jointly with compeditors
22:23 gx ha
22:23 greenspan_fan how did they all get together and become confident enough to risk getting sued in the space of a couple hours?
22:23 gx it's members of the btc foundation
22:23 gx which the gox guy just stepped down
22:23 Apocalyptic mtgox.com just went out
22:23 ThickAsThieves coinbase is worried theyll have less customers thats all
22:24 ThickAsThieves they are thinking long term
22:24 ThickAsThieves hastily, but longterm nonetheless
22:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 803 @ 0.00509856 = 4.0941 BTC [-] {9}
22:24 nubbins` heh
22:24 nubbins` mtgox.com is indeed gone
22:24 Duffer1 yep blank page for me
22:24 kakobrekla wowz
22:24 ThickAsThieves it's loading ... nothing
22:25 kakobrekla this is going faster than i thought ?
22:25 greenspan_fan it's loaded but there's nothing transmitted
22:25 ThickAsThieves i'm gonna win my bitbet!
22:25 nubbins` view-source:https://www.mtgox.com/
22:25 nubbins` nothing at all
22:25 dub__ aaanditsgone.com
22:25 ThickAsThieves how do you even do that ?
22:25 ThickAsThieves have no source
22:25 ThickAsThieves but still resolve
22:25 greenspan_fan exactly
22:25 gx send a 200 ok header
22:25 gx thats it
22:25 nubbins` index.html is an empty file
22:25 greenspan_fan they've wiped the entire page
22:26 nubbins` browser is smart enough to not choke
22:26 Apocalyptic so nubbins`
22:26 Apocalyptic you still think it's a hoax ?
22:26 nubbins` Apocalyptic: i still think the pdf is fake, yes
22:26 nubbins` but as i mentioned in -otc:
22:26 nubbins` [23:53:10] <nubbins`> oh, don't get me wrong, gox is broke
22:26 nubbins` [23:53:14] <nubbins`> everything is gone
22:26 ThickAsThieves i'm on the fence
22:26 ThickAsThieves ^
22:26 ThickAsThieves yeha that too
22:27 Apocalyptic as unreal as it may appear, I think the doc is legit
22:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00543499 = 0.2174 BTC [+] {3}
22:27 ThickAsThieves karpeles is so fucked
22:27 ThickAsThieves maybe the most fucked man alive
22:27 nubbins` but why is it so poorly written, why did the guy who "discovered" the doc redact a page?
22:28 ThickAsThieves nub how did you determine it was him that redacte dit
22:28 gx mightve been written in haste as an initial draft
22:28 Apocalyptic <nubbins`> but why is it so poorly written, // why is the all mtgox system so poorly written ?
22:28 gx fired off to someone for approval and then leaked
22:28 gx obviously they all know theyre steering a sinking ship
22:28 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: because the redactions (actually black highlights) have his name on them
22:28 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: see http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5
22:29 nubbins` open your pdf viewer, and enable highlights/notes
22:29 Duffer1 why is ryan selkis?
22:29 nubbins` Apocalyptic: fair enough ;(
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00541999 = 0.1572 BTC [-] {3}
22:29 greenspan_fan two-bit-idiot
22:29 Duffer1 just some blogger?
22:29 nubbins` Duffer1: some guy who "leaked" this pdf.
22:29 nubbins` a nobody.
22:29 Duffer1 interesting
22:29 greenspan_fan he's some vc/blogger/bitcoin nobody
22:29 greenspan_fan which is the resume of every scam artist in the space
22:30 ThickAsThieves oh it appears diffe3rnt in acrobat pro
22:30 * nubbins` nods
22:30 dexX7 did trading on gox stop?
22:30 kakobrekla no, gox is stop.
22:30 nubbins` dexX7, gox is gone
22:30 gx http://www.meetup.com/Harvard-Bitcoin-Meetup/members/67850542/
22:30 ozbot Ryan Selkis -
22:30 dexX7 api is still available
22:30 nubbins` ah
22:30 dexX7 more or less.. http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/ticker_fast
22:30 dexX7 http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/depth/full
22:31 ThickAsThieves http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanselkis
22:31 gx http://i.imgur.com/hM8Uuvn.png
22:31 ozbot Ryan Selkis | LinkedIn
22:31 gx last 2 hrs of data missing for us
22:31 nubbins` honestly, i think this selkis guy completely fabricated the pdf and associated "story", for whatever reason, but then it grew legs, people started panicking and issuing statements, so gox (who knew it was only a matter of time anyway) decided now was as good a time as any to give it up
22:32 ThickAsThieves Founder
22:32 ThickAsThieves Inscrypto
22:32 ThickAsThieves December 2013 – Present (3 months)Boston, San Francisco
22:32 ThickAsThieves Bitcoin's decentralized, privately funded version of the FDIC. We reduce volatility for consumers while helping hedge funds invest in bitcoin.
22:32 nubbins` imagine
22:32 gx seems like selkis is in competition w/ gox in one way or another.
22:32 nubbins` an asshole who wanted cheap coin for his business was the straw that broke gox's back
22:32 nubbins` honestly wouldn't have guessed
22:32 Apocalyptic <nubbins`> an asshole who wanted cheap coin for his business was the straw that broke gox's back // are you serious ?
22:32 ThickAsThieves Founder Good-Benefits - Creator of the first ever "401k for charity" • Worked at @Summit Partners, @Former Analyst at JPMorgan Investment Bank • Studied at @BC
22:33 nubbins` Apocalyptic: am i ever serious? :D
22:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00088369 = 5.7882 BTC [+] {2}
22:33 nubbins` man, CS is still building. shoulda made a pizza
22:34 ThickAsThieves https://plus.google.com/106808782106272134400/about
22:36 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/user/selkisr
22:36 ozbot Ryan Selkis - YouTube
22:36 kakobrekla www.businessinsider.com.au/falcon-global-capital-offers-to-buy-the-fbis-bitcoins-2014-2
22:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00520006 = 0.156 BTC [-] {3}
22:37 ThickAsThieves hell, this channel could muster a better offer than them
22:37 nubbins` let's all chip in on 14% below
22:38 nubbins` that guy has an asshole face
22:38 dexX7 haha yea
22:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.0609 = 2.4969 BTC [+]
22:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 267 @ 0.00492521 = 1.315 BTC [-] {7}
22:40 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 251 @ 0.0021 = 0.5271 BTC [+]
22:41 greenspan_fan I wonder if it would be better just to buy mt gox?
22:41 KRS-One http://www.reddit.com/user/sarahcoinbit
22:41 ozbot overview for SarahCoinBit
22:42 ThickAsThieves lol
22:42 ThickAsThieves sarahcoinbit magically starts posting an hour ago?
22:42 greenspan_fan or visit DPR in prison? ... if you wanted to buy questionable coins in bulk
22:43 Apocalyptic KRS-One, can you get a registration date for the account ?
22:43 ThickAsThieves go for it
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1071 @ 0.00478179 = 5.1213 BTC [-] {8}
22:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12337774 = 0.3701 BTC [-] {2}
22:43 dexX7 redditor for 28 days
22:43 gx http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuouz/mtgox_situation_crisis_draft/cfnz306
22:43 ozbot historian1111 comments on MtGOX Situation Crisis Draft
22:43 jayk lights out for mtgox?
22:44 gx interesting point, they intentionally tried to tank the price so theyd be liable for less
22:44 Duffer1 hopefully jayk
22:44 gx and froze at a low point
22:44 nubbins` interesting times
22:44 greenspan_fan they only ever really had a genius for fraud
22:44 nubbins` "i remember where i was when i found out mtgox was gone... sitting on my ass in front of the computer"
22:45 greenspan_fan interestingly enough, that's also where I was on 9/11
22:45 nubbins` heh, i was smoking a joint outside the library at uni
22:45 the20year I was watching regis and kelly on 9/11
22:45 Apocalyptic dexX7, good point
22:45 nubbins` was locked in an exam room for the actual event, didn't find out until hours afterwards
22:45 ThickAsThieves would be more fun if we were all in a real room sharing a joint
22:45 * nubbins` nods
22:46 nubbins` brb, next best thing
22:46 ThickAsThieves maybe we should do an american b-a "conference"
22:46 greenspan_fan and was your mark 0.8181818 repeating?
22:46 nubbins` greenspan_fan: honestly can't recall ;(
22:46 nubbins` fun fact, .99 repeating == 1
22:47 greenspan_fan I was going to pretend to disagree
22:47 jayk they were allowing trading up until today
22:47 greenspan_fan but I just don't have the heart
22:47 nubbins` heh
22:47 nubbins` aww, i was going to prove it several different ways ;(
22:47 nubbins` now it's all left as an exercise to the reader
22:47 greenspan_fan 1/3 = 0.3333...
22:47 nubbins` that's one way :D
22:48 greenspan_fan what are some other ways?
22:48 ThickAsThieves so if it is true, then that means the lost coins are already priced in
22:48 ThickAsThieves and only downward movement is pani
22:48 ThickAsThieves c
22:49 nubbins` greenspan_fan: let x=0.99...
22:49 ThickAsThieves how the hell do you leak coins for years though
22:49 greenspan_fan that would make sense, because otherwise people who traded via bitcoin builder would be furious
22:49 nubbins` 10x = 9.99.., ergo 10x-x = 9.99... - .99..., ergo 9x = 9, ergo x = 1
22:49 ThickAsThieves they will be
22:49 ThickAsThieves gox coins = 0 USD
22:49 greenspan_fan that's a good one
22:49 nubbins` nod, my fave
22:50 nubbins` you can do it with infinite series too
22:50 nubbins` can't recall the details
22:50 greenspan_fan not if they're planning to make people whole tho
22:50 ThickAsThieves lol
22:50 ThickAsThieves gox cant make anything whole
22:50 ThickAsThieves theyre done
22:50 ThickAsThieves no plan or rebranding can save them
22:50 greenspan_fan at a 80% discount?
22:51 nubbins` i really regret not selling at $23
22:51 the20year it's like everything else , once you screw the pooch it can't be undone
22:51 nubbins` LEL JK :D
22:51 greenspan_fan assuming they have any money at all (which they might, if they were front running the market all week)
22:51 greenspan_fan they'll be able to cover at least some of the deposits
22:52 ThickAsThieves we'll see i guess
22:52 ThickAsThieves i'm doubtful
22:52 greenspan_fan how many black lotuses would you need to sell to cover 700 000 btc?
22:52 nubbins` "at least some" might as well be "none"
22:52 ThickAsThieves even if someting is sorted it'll take year(s)
22:52 nubbins` greenspan_fan: depends, are you a dealer? :D
22:52 Duffer1 is that a MTG ref greenspan fan?
22:52 greenspan_fan yes
22:53 greenspan_fan I think karpeles should cut off a pinky, at least
22:53 ThickAsThieves are they casacius lotuses?
22:53 nubbins` heh
22:53 greenspan_fan it's the japanese corporate way
22:53 nubbins` TBH i thought he was talking about sports cars
22:53 ThickAsThieves it's the most expensive magic card
22:53 nubbins` http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f94/142461d1266687227-f-s-starlight-black-lotus-elise-25-000-img_0126.jpg
22:53 Diablo-D3 top 5 stories on hn, with a sixth further down are mtgox
22:53 ThickAsThieves nice car
22:54 nubbins` nod, sexy curves
22:54 nubbins` met a girl who raced a lotus once
22:54 greenspan_fan because HN was one of the first places to hear about bitcoin, and almost none of the people got in on it
22:54 the20year hn?
22:54 nubbins` haxor gnus
22:55 the20year I *got in* on bitcoin in the first 3 months, didn't do me much good by not sticking with it :D
22:56 greenspan_fan really? did you not have a good graphics card or something?
22:56 ThickAsThieves http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/25/joint-statement/ kraken just happy for the free advertising
22:56 ozbot Joint Statement Regarding MtGox | Blockchain.info Team Blog
22:56 the20year Wallet got hacked
22:56 greenspan_fan shitty
22:56 ThickAsThieves people are like krakwho?
22:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.005 = 0.845 BTC [+] {3}
22:56 greenspan_fan wasn't that a scam fund from that guy who ripped off mircea?
22:57 the20year Went to a bunch of faucets after downloading the client, the ones that were giving 1 to 0.5btc out per day per time you hit the faucet
22:57 greenspan_fan patrick hartnett?
22:57 greenspan_fan oh man, that's rough
22:57 greenspan_fan how'd you get hacked?
22:57 the20year Never did anything with teh wallet, showed up at office one day and the client was open, all coins gone
22:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 370 @ 0.00086094 = 0.3185 BTC [+] {2}
22:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1192 @ 0.00498438 = 5.9414 BTC [-] {6}
22:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28450 @ 0.00088402 = 25.1504 BTC [+]
22:58 the20year there was some java/ad exploit that took alot of coins from people running XP, and I was one of them, right around the time bitcoin hit like $20 for the first time due to all the silk road press, maybe that was 2011?
22:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 363 @ 0.0008648 = 0.3139 BTC [+]
22:59 ThickAsThieves well it hit $20 from silk road in 2013 too
22:59 nubbins` http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/24/us-vatican-bank-idUSBREA1N0TA20140224
22:59 ozbot Pope revolutionizes Vatican by opening finances to scrutiny
22:59 greenspan_fan honestly, I'd be buying right around now anyways
22:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1229 @ 0.00086544 = 1.0636 BTC [+] {4}
23:00 the20year I would be too , but I have very little personal cash available for btc, but also sadly have a decent bit of BTC from investors to be converted to fiat to buy property
23:00 jurov i'd try to postpone that
23:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 225 @ 0.00086797 = 0.1953 BTC [+] {2}
23:01 the20year Have been
23:01 ThickAsThieves if you use bitcoins your raised you are cheating shareholders
23:01 the20year But we are locked into contracts on two properties
23:01 ThickAsThieves MUST HODL!
23:01 greenspan_fan seriously, I would not be surprised if it's higher than ever in a week
23:01 jurov or you should have insured using mpoe options
23:01 greenspan_fan given how any press seems to push the price up
23:02 jurov oh i forgot mpoe is down :(
23:02 the20year That would have been the better choice, one of the bigger issues has been waiting on havelock to send me the coins, they aren't deposited on a wallet on our side
23:02 the20year Granted I did cash out part of them at $700
23:02 ThickAsThieves hmm i'm just realizing that last i talked to my brother he was using gox as a wallet
23:02 ThickAsThieves i did tell him to get off like a year ago
23:02 ThickAsThieves well last summer
23:02 the20year I have quite a few investors that have lost out quite a bit of coin at gox
23:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC [+]
23:04 greenspan_fan don't worry, I'm sure gox.com is going to be a huge hit
23:04 ThickAsThieves yeah, along with bitfunder.com
23:04 jurov and bitcoin cafe
23:04 the20year I think in between bitfuner and gox, just the inevstors I've talked to have lost 150+btc
23:04 ThickAsThieves maybe they rebrand too, under.com
23:04 greenspan_fan ahahaha
23:05 Diablo-D3 top 6 stories on hn are mtgox, 7th rising
23:05 greenspan_fan are there any bitcoin death pools? because I don't think karpeles will have been priced properly yet
23:05 dexX7 hn?
23:06 dexX7 nvm
23:06 greenspan_fan haxxor newz
23:06 greenspan_fan I am thinking either angry investor puts a hit out w/ the yakuza, or he commits hari kiri. Place your bets.
23:06 the20year You guys see the video of our glorious next purchase of 2 houses on one lot?
23:06 nubbins` hmm
23:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12212177 BTC [-]
23:07 nubbins` just had one of those "went downstairs to find a lighter, came across a vial of oil" moments
23:07 * nubbins` rubs hands together
23:07 greenspan_fan what?
23:07 Vexual hes speaking literally
23:07 nubbins` vexual knows
23:07 Bones_ wow, thought it was just some nasty rumor earlier. I come back and poof
23:07 ThickAsThieves oil is the lube
23:08 ThickAsThieves rubbing hands and cock together
23:08 nubbins` comedials
23:08 nubbins` comedians, even
23:08 greenspan_fan what's the lighter for, then?
23:08 ThickAsThieves the audience
23:08 nubbins` greenspan_fan: to remove the oil from the vial
23:08 greenspan_fan is your lube water-based?
23:08 nubbins` perverts
23:08 nubbins` PK oil
23:08 * ThickAsThieves raises lit lighter into air "encore!"
23:08 jurov nubbins` gonna make a molotow
23:09 jurov and throw it to gox office
23:09 nubbins` Vexual, have a listen to the album a friend and i recorded: https://atelierbleu.bandcamp.com/album/manicouagan
23:09 greenspan_fan I made a molotov cocktail once.
23:09 greenspan_fan it tasted terrible.
23:09 nubbins` turn up yr bass
23:09 jurov REVOLUTION
23:09 Vexual i listened to some earlier
23:09 nubbins` ah
23:09 the20year pk oil?
23:09 Vexual pretty good, i might need to be in the mood for it
23:09 * nubbins` nods
23:09 nubbins` it's music for late nights
23:10 Vexual hard to think while listening :)
23:10 nubbins` heh, yes
23:10 the20year heh
23:10 ThickAsThieves music to have on while youre passed out
23:10 nubbins` that too
23:10 nubbins` music to wake up startled to
23:10 nubbins` "music"
23:10 ThickAsThieves music for trees in the woods
23:10 nubbins` i'm being generous
23:10 the20year https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9427554/Scioto-UnionSmall.mpg
23:11 the20year Bask in the glory of a 385sqft cottage
23:11 ThickAsThieves lol
23:11 greenspan_fan is that enough room to bask?
23:11 ThickAsThieves is it convertible?
23:11 the20year yes
23:12 the20year Granted they're throwing in a 2300sf duplex along with everything
23:13 Bugpowder http://goxbalance.com
23:13 dexX7 Bugpowder: where's that from?
23:13 Bugpowder submissions?
23:13 ThickAsThieves lol
23:13 ThickAsThieves how cna this possibly be useful
23:14 greenspan_fan Idk, I am having a great time w/ my array of proxies
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00514814 = 0.278 BTC [+] {2}
23:14 bloctoc It will help government determine the size of the bailout required
23:14 asciilifeform http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-24/another-successful-banker-found-dead
23:14 nubbins` this just in, obama bails out gox
23:14 ozbot Another "Successful Banker" Found Dead | Zero Hedge
23:14 ThickAsThieves at least gox has the courtesy to die under $150
23:14 greenspan_fan TO THE MOON!
23:14 Apocalyptic http://www.canyouwithdrawfrommtgox.com/
23:14 ozbot Can you withdraw from Mt.Gox?
23:15 greenspan_fan (no)
23:15 ThickAsThieves someone should start a blog of pornstar deaths
23:15 ThickAsThieves maybe there's a connection
23:15 greenspan_fan man I am going to feel really bad if gox exec actually off themselves
23:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00518412 = 0.4251 BTC [+] {2}
23:16 greenspan_fan I am picturing it now: suicide note partially obscured by condensation from the frappuchino placed on top
23:17 Bones_ I'm thinking more like yakuza as you said
23:17 Bones_ Very public
23:17 ThickAsThieves ratpoisonichino
23:17 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuyx4/hey_charlie_shrem_was_this_the_good_news_on_the/
23:17 ozbot Hey Charlie Shrem, was this the good news on the horizon you were talking about? : Bitcoin
23:17 ThickAsThieves lol
23:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.000869 = 0.1738 BTC [+]
23:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00518999 = 0.3892 BTC [+]
23:18 greenspan_fan or satashi nakamoto, the real brains behind mt. gox, swoops in to bail everyone out with his million bitcoin stash
23:18 ThickAsThieves http://www.domaininvesting.com/andy-booth-sells-gox-com/
23:18 ozbot Andy Booth Sells Gox.com | DomainInvesting.com
23:19 ThickAsThieves On February 21, 2014, Andy Booth was listed as the domain name registrant, according to a historical Whois record.
23:19 cazalla would this resolve as yes if they rebrand http://bitbet.us/bet/751/mtgox-out-of-business-in-2014/
23:19 ThickAsThieves My brother met domain broker Joe Politzer in Singapore who got excited about gox.com and then I said he could try to sell it if he wanted. He called Karpeles and Gox to find out if they wanted it and immediately they expressed pretty strong interest. I’ve asked Mark if it’s ok to publish details (no response as yet).”
23:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00518999 = 0.3841 BTC [+] {2}
23:20 greenspan_fan don't think mark's going to be responding to anybody
23:20 greenspan_fan the question remains, though, who got the 700 000 btc?
23:20 ThickAsThieves this is who did the deal http://dn.biz/
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC
23:21 ThickAsThieves according to the article*
23:21 the20year http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuozv/mtgox_just_proceeded_a_bunch_of_jpy_withdrawal/
23:21 ozbot Mt.Gox just proceeded a bunch of JPY withdrawal today : Bitcoin
23:21 jurov hi mircea_popescu, all according to plan?
23:21 mircea_popescu jurov what specifically ?
23:22 Bugpowder lol
23:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00515 = 1.03 BTC [-]
23:22 jurov gox is done
23:22 greenspan_fan have you heard about mt gox?
23:22 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, you missed some drama
23:22 mircea_popescu i just woke up!
23:22 dexX7 haha
23:22 ThickAsThieves wake up faster!
23:22 Apocalyptic it's a shitstorm out there
23:22 mircea_popescu ><
23:22 greenspan_fan this should be like christmas for you
23:22 mircea_popescu so i should wake up for the derpage ?
23:22 ThickAsThieves www.gox.com
23:22 asciilifeform let the man sleep, folks. he sleeps, what, once a week?
23:22 mircea_popescu what is this, derpworld ?
23:22 mircea_popescu lmao
23:23 greenspan_fan a really suspicious slide deck about mt gox going under surfaced
23:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0051335 = 0.3491 BTC [-] {2}
23:23 mircea_popescu derp.
23:23 ThickAsThieves he doesnt need sleep, just to avoid sunlight
23:23 greenspan_fan seems like it was legit; they've essentially gone dark
23:23 mircea_popescu listen, all this is a lot less exciting if YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEM
23:23 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves now i have to kill you.
23:23 ThickAsThieves turn me
23:23 mircea_popescu lol
23:23 ThickAsThieves :)
23:24 mircea_popescu i just tried to log into twitter as mircea popsicu
23:24 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, I would like your opinion on https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhl8b6k1rya78xc/209050732-MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft.pdf
23:24 asciilifeform 'for what have i prepared this beautiful golden stake?'
23:24 Vexual bugpowders running gox add on matlab
23:24 mircea_popescu lmao
23:25 greenspan_fan so did you hear about this in advance?
23:25 kakobrekla o, now we have gif http://i.imgur.com/T2RudcB.gif
23:25 ThickAsThieves nice!
23:25 greenspan_fan it seemed like the btc foundation peopel knew
23:25 mircea_popescu lol good gif
23:26 asciilifeform goes well with that other bouncyball gif
23:26 asciilifeform the one with the dildo
23:26 greenspan_fan given that they all prepared joint statements
23:26 mircea_popescu greenspan_fan basically, mtgox demise was decided april 2013, at the secret conference nobody went to.
23:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 75 @ 0.0055 = 0.4125 BTC
23:26 mod6 lol @ gif
23:26 mircea_popescu and the fact that the scammer troop has coordinated ballet on the topic is really just a sign of how fucking stupid they are.
23:27 greenspan_fan they had to revise their statements after release
23:27 mircea_popescu point in case.
23:27 greenspan_fan presumably on the advice of lawyers
23:27 mircea_popescu kinda the only reason i like vessenes. he's so fucking dumb.
23:27 ThickAsThieves on the advice of me!
23:27 greenspan_fan wait, you're not a lawyer?
23:27 the20year did the buildabetterburgers take down gox?
23:27 Vexual flee immediately!
23:27 mircea_popescu thickaslawyers ?
23:27 ThickAsThieves lawyersasthieves
23:28 mircea_popescu sas is good...
23:28 greenspan_fan hey man, some of my best friends are thieves
23:28 dexX7 https://twitter.com/magicalgox/status/438161500537380864 wtf
23:28 ozbot Twitter / MagicalGox: Send me 1BTC and I will resolve ...
23:28 Bugpowder dexX7: fake accy
23:29 Vexual Bugpowder, is matlab saying when yet?
23:29 ThickAsThieves http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57619465-93/bitcoin-exchange-mt-gox-offline-amid-insolvency-charges/
23:29 ozbot Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox offline amid 'insolvency' charges | Internet & Media - CNET News
23:30 mircea_popescu Bugpowder kinda what happens when you delete your posts, you know ? people start the takeover.
23:30 Bugpowder Vexual: Still doing experiments
23:30 Bugpowder haven't tracked it yet
23:31 ThickAsThieves pdf claims 700k btc lost over "years"
23:31 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it is roughly true.
23:31 mircea_popescu not that that's an excuse for anything.
23:31 greenspan_fan what is interesting, though, is that you might be able to follow the block chain from the earlier transactions
23:32 greenspan_fan I'm betting julian assange did it, to fund his jihad against america
23:32 mircea_popescu lol
23:32 mircea_popescu it's their nest egg.
23:32 greenspan_fan bitcoin becomes the national currency of ecuador and he flees britain as a citizen
23:32 ThickAsThieves maybe he'll have a co-press relase with snowden
23:33 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/iranians-hacked-navy-network-for-4-months-not-a-surprise/
23:33 ozbot Iranians hacked Navy network for four months? Not a surprise. | Ars Technica
23:33 greenspan_fan no man, snowden's satoshi
23:33 asciilifeform tldr: run more winblows, usg
23:33 greenspan_fan he's got his own bitcoins
23:33 ThickAsThieves snowtoshi
23:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10975 BTC [+]
23:33 dexX7 there is also this post from wsj earlier: http://archive.is/NLLpV - "According to documents seen by The Wall Street Journal, Tibanne Co., which operates Mt. Gox, is expected to generate a small profit in the fiscal year ending in March from exchange transaction fees. The forecast, however, assumes bitcoin prices well above current levels."
23:34 greenspan_fan https://www.tibanne.com/article/7/we-re-hiring-
23:34 ozbot Tibanne Co. Ltd.
23:34 ThickAsThieves lol
23:34 nubbins` hiring what, liquidators?
23:34 ThickAsThieves CSS3 needed!
23:35 mircea_popescu forum experts.
23:35 greenspan_fan Ability to comment properly work is important
23:35 greenspan_fan so when's the mpex ipo for gox.com?
23:35 mircea_popescu heh.
23:36 nubbins` still say that pdf is bogus
23:36 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2165830363/Peter-Portrait.jpg << seriously, look at this guy. doesn't he look like the 110 iq barrier is a bridge too far ?
23:36 ThickAsThieves an IPO to buy the domain after scammers are done with it?
23:36 Vexual nub, i think it'd be hard to miss that much btc over time
23:36 mircea_popescu wasn't i explaining before how goxshit isn't worth money ?
23:36 asciilifeform unrelated, but relevant to 'interesting times': http://bloodandtreasure.typepad.com/blood_treasure/2004/09/further_chronic.html
23:36 mircea_popescu Vexual we knew they were in the red.
23:36 greenspan_fan it was a joke
23:36 Vexual and they knew?
23:37 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/mtgox-and-ancient-bitcoin-history-the-straight-dope/
23:37 ozbot MtGox and ancient Bitcoin history - the straight dope. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:37 mircea_popescu time to re-read this.
23:37 greenspan_fan and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations"
23:37 mircea_popescu yes vex. they were in the red up until late 2012.
23:37 mircea_popescu i suppose that article may read differently in light of events.
23:37 nubbins` "Successive emperors became the captors of various factions of eunuchs."
23:37 nubbins` the type of shit that'd put House of Cards to shame
23:38 Apocalyptic <greenspan_fan> and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations" // heh
23:38 mircea_popescu nubbins` what is house of cards anyway ?
23:38 greenspan_fan did you see the latest season? I'd say it was a contender, even sans eunuchs
23:39 mircea_popescu coupla titters on twitter keep derping about it.
23:39 greenspan_fan also, I think it's supposed to be GNU/eunuchs
23:39 mircea_popescu aaaahahahaha
23:39 nubbins` mircea_popescu: netflix-only television show based on a bbc television show based on a novel. the netflix version centers around u.s. political intrigue, specifically kevin spacey's machinations towards the presidency
23:40 greenspan_fan with significant inspiration from caro's biography of lyndon johnson
23:40 nubbins` worth watching, we swallowed season 2 over about 4 days
23:40 mircea_popescu oh
23:40 nubbins` lots of intrigue, subterfuge, etc
23:40 greenspan_fan anyone else read that biography?
23:40 ThickAsThieves http://imgur.com/xFp7iVc
23:40 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
23:41 greenspan_fan hahaha
23:41 mircea_popescu ajhahaha
23:41 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you got a twittar ?
23:41 nubbins` greenspan_fan: never read the bio, HoC s2 was great tho
23:41 nubbins` they've been renewed for a third, hey?
23:42 ThickAsThieves i have only the altcoin twatter
23:42 greenspan_fan nubbins I am angry that I'll have to wait for a year, though
23:42 mircea_popescu what was it again ?
23:42 greenspan_fan you must be the only altcoin creator without 10,000 sockpuppets
23:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.16230094 = 2.9214 BTC [-]
23:42 ThickAsThieves @therealaltcoin
23:43 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438172294050234368
23:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00088332 = 18.5497 BTC [-] {2}
23:44 nubbins` http://imgur.com/CWzXmDV
23:44 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
23:44 nubbins` daww ;(
23:44 ThickAsThieves lol
23:44 greenspan_fan isn't that like the clown from those stephen king novels?
23:44 nubbins` ^ this is the proper way to deal with this issue, not a fucking cloudflare snapshot
23:44 mircea_popescu lol
23:44 nubbins` what's a snapshot of an exchange website going to do for me?
23:44 mircea_popescu nubbins` you actually got that ? or was it a lol ?
23:45 Vexual i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports
23:45 nubbins` at least make me feel bad
23:45 nubbins` mircea_popescu it's real!
23:45 nubbins` i thought the twitter fail whale was neat
23:45 nubbins` this is next-level
23:45 ThickAsThieves "Interestingly the folks at secondmarket called me today to say that there will be a one week halt on all new BIT purchases and their trading department is no longer taking any new positions."
23:45 ThickAsThieves from a friend of mine
23:45 ThickAsThieves (not trolling)
23:45 mircea_popescu <Vexual> i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports <<< EPIC
23:45 ThickAsThieves i wonder if 2ndmarket used gox
23:45 ThickAsThieves biglolz!
23:45 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they did yes.
23:46 mircea_popescu because they know better.
23:46 ThickAsThieves hahahahaha
23:46 ThickAsThieves ahahah
23:46 mircea_popescu you know how like a certain fucktarded ceo is making his own stock exchgange ? cause he knows better ?
23:46 mircea_popescu you know how ycombinator isn't hiring BingoBoingo to tell them what's what ?
23:46 mircea_popescu you know how the twinkleloss brothers don't feel like they need to be here ?
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [-] {2}
23:46 mircea_popescu that's exactly how second market thinks it knows better than me
23:46 mircea_popescu the common word describing these is, of course, stupidity.
23:47 greenspan_fan you could make your website prettier, at least
23:47 Bones_ If everyone was in here, then we wouldn't make as much money?
23:47 greenspan_fan and while you're at it, make your blog free
23:47 mircea_popescu greenspan_fan or i could add spikes on my cock, to leave better marks on assholes.
23:47 mircea_popescu either way.
23:48 ThickAsThieves you could lose a cock that way
23:48 greenspan_fan but gox was able to siphon off 700 000 btc because they had javascript and css basically
23:48 ThickAsThieves be careful
23:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00445591 = 2.4329 BTC [-] {20}
23:49 ThickAsThieves @Mircea_Popescu @therealaltcoin Lol even google image can tell its peter
23:49 ThickAsThieves winnar
23:49 ThickAsThieves pay google 1000 ATC
23:50 mircea_popescu greenspan_fan you have to take into consideration 80+% of that was when btc was < $1
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23:50 Vexual still a lot of milkshakes
23:50 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves if google tweets @me i will sure.
23:50 Bugpowder OK... let's get back to racking these cold wallets
23:50 ThickAsThieves k
23:50 ThickAsThieves we'll read your findings really hard
23:51 Vexual why .info?
23:51 nubbins` ah, bc.info has edited their statement as well
23:51 nubbins` no more mention of insolvency
23:51 greenspan_fan mircea_popescu but surely you have some pretty sick programmers working for you? idk much about web frontends, so idk if it's bad security
23:51 benkay much drama and lulz today?
23:51 Apocalyptic amateur communication
23:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2387 BTC [+]
23:51 Apocalyptic if you knew benkay ..
23:52 mircea_popescu greenspan_fan what do you mean ?
23:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2284 BTC [+]
23:53 greenspan_fan mircea_popescu presumably if you/your employees could implement a sophisticated exchange (with all the countermeasures in order to ensure continuous operation) you could at least add some css to mpex.co
23:53 mircea_popescu provided i wanted to.
23:54 mircea_popescu nubbins` da fuck is bc.info
23:54 ThickAsThieves cockchain
23:54 nubbins` i abbreviated blockchain.info
23:54 nubbins` kind of forgot that it makes a link that people can click ;(
23:55 mircea_popescu a.
23:55 ThickAsThieves lol http://cockchain.info/
23:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 765 @ 0.00522621 = 3.9981 BTC [+] {3}
23:56 Vexual i guess bp dont want prtd matleb on a machine that has blockchain
23:56 greenspan_fan at this point idk whether it's positive (as a mark of differentiation) or whether you're losing business because it seems like it's pre-1999
23:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00525893 = 0.7047 BTC [+] {3}
23:56 mircea_popescu greenspan_fan what business am i losing ?
23:57 Vexual sub 140iq sub 50btc
23:57 Apocalyptic .d
23:57 ozbot 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 598 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.5183% in 3d 7h 2m 4s
23:57 mircea_popescu leading question : how much business is nyse losing by not having a drive-thru presence in most shopping malls ?
23:57 Vexual 12?
23:57 mircea_popescu leading question #2 : what could the concept of "Accredited investor" mean in bitcoin, and how would one go about meaningfully implementing it ?
23:58 Apocalyptic nice analogy mircea
23:58 greenspan_fan I actually bought some options for ibm at wal-mart earlier today, so times are changing
23:58 mircea_popescu pankkake pls to 1000 atc to 1CgNLdNUaXFawURSBuX4xBHv53GhGZ3XuC ty
23:58 jurov greenspan_fan: clearly there's market gap for you to exploit
23:58 mircea_popescu greenspan_ the times are only changing in the sense the us is going under.
23:59 mircea_popescu there is such a thing as eternal truths.
23:59 mircea_popescu but yes, as the j man says, nothing keeps you from doing brokerage for any market segment you identify and think you can serve.
23:59 greenspan_fan putting it another way, given your thoughts re: art, you could consider patronizing some pre-autistic teenager with a color palette and a dream
23:59 Bones_ greenspan_fan - if anything his website exudes "dude who knows what the fuck he is doing". Not to suck your dick or anything mp but anyway that's how I saw the website
23:59 ThickAsThieves to #2, measured by your bitcoin holdings, no?
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