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00:00 truffles not bad
00:02 Vexual y want hay goat?
00:04 truffles goat doesnt seem to chat here anymoar
00:06 jborkl Too busy buying Lamborghini s
00:07 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc
00:07 ozbot Musical Youth Pass the Dutchie - YouTube
00:08 truffles dunno how i feel about this one
00:08 truffles its not bad not stellar
00:13 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdshuUvatzs
00:13 ozbot Baby Sea Lion Wants To Be My Friend - YouTube
00:22 Vexual yall didnt even know you were lookinmg forward to something
00:23 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSAd3NpDi6Q
00:23 ozbot Handel - Sarabande - YouTube
00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.046689 = 0.8404 BTC [+]
00:25 fiat500 Vexual: how many are you?
00:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04669 = 0.6537 BTC [+]
00:25 Vexual uno
00:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [+]
00:28 truffles asciilifeform those methods u desribe are what i thought bitcoin would be, not more of the same..
00:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.271 = 0.542 BTC [+]
00:33 Vexual lamborghini is better than ferrari beacuase they havew blind tractor mechanics as old as the hills working by ear
00:33 nubbins` i hear men with suits flay the calves each day for the seat leather
00:34 nubbins` and they're paid so well that they just throw out their bloody suit at the end of their shift
00:34 Vexual cant have thw boys do it
00:34 nubbins` and wear a new one the next day
00:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 5 @ 0.042 = 0.21 BTC [+]
00:35 Vexual those guys can see the seat as they skin a thick swathe
00:36 nubbins` contours and scallops
00:36 nubbins` the bodies gently tapped into shape with peening hammers
00:37 Vexual thats why i dont own a lamborghini
00:37 truffles not cuz its too expensive?
00:37 Vexual good point truffles
00:38 nubbins` it can be more than one thing
00:38 Vexual it is
00:38 Vexual theres a third
00:38 nubbins` !
00:38 Vexual trees
00:38 Vexual people and shit
00:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8368 @ 0.00090475 = 7.5709 BTC [-] {2}
00:39 Vexual give me a motorcycle any day
00:39 Vexual not if drunk
00:40 Vexual but if you want to go fast a motorcycle is the only way
00:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16592 @ 0.00090627 = 15.0368 BTC [+] {2}
00:41 Vexual well if you like a fine audial note, look to akwasaki
00:41 Vexual no artisan mechanic required
00:42 benkay sounds like an emotional decision.
00:42 truffles ..
00:43 Vexual if you want to hide in the fog of war so noone hears you coming, buy a honda
00:45 Vexual hers the agm: looks cool check abs check hows it sound? ah soh?
00:46 truffles more classical music
00:46 Vexual honda minimises red and brown
00:47 Vexual kawasaki maximises brown disregarding red
00:50 Vexual where brown and red are effectively implied likelyhood for poo and blood respectivly respectively to be excreted by the rider.
00:52 Vexual attend meetings and solve for yamaha and suzuki
00:53 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA
00:53 ozbot Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven - YouTube
00:53 Vexual this is classical by automotive standards
00:53 truffles classic != classical
00:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.272 BTC [+]
00:56 Vexual id probably have the altitude record for a motorcycle crash with no injury
01:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.000905 = 17.1045 BTC [-] {2}
01:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.00295996 = 0.3848 BTC [+] {5}
01:08 chsados whos the dude who handles bitbet.us here?
01:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00090248 = 14.0787 BTC [-] {3}
01:09 chsados mircea_popescu, afk?
01:09 chsados i did this bet 18-12-2013 Pending BTCChina Will Cease All Fiat Methods of Funding
01:09 chsados before this freaking announcement
01:09 chsados i hope i dont get funds taken :(
01:13 kakobreklaaa is your tx in the bets table?
01:23 chsados no it hasnt been accepted
01:29 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izH0P2rSPnQ he benakke
01:29 ozbot Balinese Suckling Pig (Babi Guling), Travel Video Guide - YouTube
01:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00090728 = 1.996 BTC [+]
01:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.272 BTC [+]
01:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12448 @ 0.00090237 = 11.2327 BTC [-] {2}
01:47 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHJRTPDMxs
01:47 ozbot L-FRESH The LION - One - YouTube
01:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 46 @ 0.27489013 = 12.6449 BTC [+] {7}
01:50 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pImWbM8yii8
01:50 ozbot Busta Rhymes - Thank You Ft. Q Tip, Lil Wayne & Kanye West (Lyrics) - YouTube
01:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00090731 = 6.8502 BTC [+] {2}
01:54 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poLJLqAh5dY
01:54 ozbot Suburban Dark ft. Jeswon - Skeletonne - YouTube
01:59 kakobreklaaa chsados, if its not in the table and the bet is closed already on bbet, you re
01:59 kakobreklaaa a
01:59 kakobreklaaa -a
01:59 kakobreklaaa out of luck
01:59 kakobreklaaa sry typing over 3 keyboards
02:06 Apocalyptic it amazes me to see people betting in the last minutes, gambling with the next block time
02:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00090755 = 9.1663 BTC [+] {2}
02:12 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJXjt5D4zY
02:12 ozbot ill never smoke weed with willie again. - YouTube
02:15 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFaMY6SAGOw
02:15 ozbot Folk Uke I Miss My Boyfriend - YouTube
02:16 chsados serously kakobrekla .....
02:18 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxlyHFwq_zs
02:18 ozbot ARLO GUTHRIE _ MOTOR CYCLE SONG. - YouTube
02:23 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.00199998 = 0.2 BTC
02:26 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAz-Chkb4Q4 here you go kids
02:26 ozbot Triumph Engine Rebuild with Kog (Preview) - YouTube
02:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.043 = 0.258 BTC [-]
02:30 davout yay ---> <@assbot> [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.00199998 = 0.2 BTC
02:30 davout amazing future
02:30 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
02:35 benkay amazing eu-ture
02:35 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
02:36 benkay ;;market --ticker eurbtc
02:36 gribble (market ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message)
02:36 benkay daww
02:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00090778 = 9.2594 BTC [+] {2}
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02:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16136 @ 0.00090786 = 14.6492 BTC [+] {2}
03:07 Vexual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2at-fdeopY
03:07 ozbot Butterfingers - I Love Work - YouTube
03:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19049 @ 0.00090431 = 17.2262 BTC [-] {2}
03:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2561 @ 0.00045357 = 1.1616 BTC [-] {18}
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03:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [+]
03:43 cazalla should've taken that under 450 bet, looking good now
03:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [+]
03:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00090108 = 5.2713 BTC [-]
04:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00295799 = 0.1154 BTC [-] {3}
04:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 468 @ 0.002958 = 1.3843 BTC [+]
04:16 chsados kakobrekla, it got accepted :D http://bitbet.us/bet/670/btcchina-will-cease-fiat-deposits-and-withdrawals/
04:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.29493332 = 0.8848 BTC [+] {3}
04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.04835389 = 9.6708 BTC [+] {5}
04:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0494 = 0.2964 BTC [+]
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04:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1756 @ 0.0028234 = 4.9579 BTC [-] {7}
05:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.280109 = 2.8011 BTC [-] {3}
05:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 22 @ 0.27006772 = 5.9415 BTC [-] {6}
05:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.26599 = 6.3838 BTC [-]
05:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00090587 = 9.5569 BTC [+] {2}
05:20 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P095T] 5 @ 0.06 = 0.3 BTC [+]
05:21 Namworld I've got the most stupid issue ever...
05:23 kakobreklaaa lemme take a guess, lost pgp key
05:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 75 @ 0.0494 = 3.705 BTC [+]
05:29 Namworld No. You know how faint noises fades out after a while even if still there, even if irregular/clicking noise/etc?
05:30 Namworld I got a new electronic thermostat and the heater in the room makes a faint but very strident noise. The problem is the new thermostat alternates the heater on/off every 5 seconds. Not often enough or infrequently enough to fade off to not notice it.
05:31 Namworld It's completly keeping me from sleeping. I'll have to turn it off.
05:31 Duffer1 that sounds incredibly annoying
05:32 Namworld If it stayed on then off every 5-10 minutes... okay...
05:33 Namworld But "pfizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ......................" cycle every 10 seconds just seems impossible to ignore.
05:34 Namworld It doesn't fade into background noise since it doesn't last long enough. And it doesn't alternates often enough to appear as a single noise.
05:34 Namworld On the upside, the temperature has never been this stable!
05:35 Namworld That's a very retarded issue tho...
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06:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00283002 = 0.1274 BTC [+] {3}
06:15 taub_ we crash mode now
06:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.0494 = 9.88 BTC [+]
06:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [+]
06:22 assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.P050T] 326 @ 0.02773246 = 9.0408 BTC [-]
06:34 pankkake lol litecoin at 0.026. so much for an hedge
06:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.0009079 = 7.5356 BTC [+] {2}
06:58 taub_ it's a bubble on a bubble
06:58 taub_ ofc it doesn't work out =D
07:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.0009046 = 9.3174 BTC [-] {2}
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07:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00090792 = 9.8509 BTC [+]
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08:02 TomServo ;;bc,stats
08:02 gribble Current Blocks: 275629 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 562 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 16 hours, 32 minutes, and 9 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1153681844.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.00839
08:16 deadweasel ;;ticker
08:16 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 539.85698, Best ask: 539.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.14301, Last trade: 539.99999, 24 hour volume: 84357.41292489, 24 hour low: 455.0, 24 hour high: 750.3614, 24 hour vwap: 569.87917
08:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00090564 = 4.5735 BTC [-]
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 800 @ 0.001 = 0.8 BTC
08:39 pankkake 27% change? :| not even close
08:39 pankkake ;;ticker --market btcavg
08:39 gribble BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 525.17, Best ask: 527.3, Bid-ask spread: 2.13000, Last trade: 526.98, 24 hour volume: 326672.18, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 625.91
08:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 425 @ 0.00090442 = 0.3844 BTC [-]
08:53 taub_ i hope this is the lower range
08:53 taub_ if not, 250 here we come
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09:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00090424 = 4.8829 BTC [-]
09:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00090435 = 10.807 BTC [+]
09:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.266 BTC [+]
09:21 jurov ;;bc,convert eur
09:21 gribble 1 BTC = 585.0 USD = 425.3535 eur
09:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16259 @ 0.00090619 = 14.7337 BTC [+] {3}
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09:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.000903 = 11.9196 BTC [-]
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02210909 = 0.2432 BTC [-] {2}
09:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0492 = 0.246 BTC [-]
09:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.266 = 2.128 BTC [+]
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10:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000903 = 13.545 BTC [-]
10:13 FabianB_ ;;ticker --currency eur
10:13 gribble MtGox BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 421.6311, Best ask: 426.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.36890, Last trade: 426.0, 24 hour volume: 11851.02461864, 24 hour low: 322.86162, 24 hour high: 540.0, 24 hour vwap: 404.07217
10:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1524 @ 0.00045001 = 0.6858 BTC [-] {2}
10:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08049999 = 0.161 BTC [+] {2}
10:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.0449999 = 0.315 BTC [+]
10:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00090405 = 11.4814 BTC [+] {3}
10:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00090641 = 11.1488 BTC [+] {3}
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00262402 = 0.2204 BTC [-] {2}
10:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0492 = 0.1476 BTC [-]
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11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00090728 = 5.5344 BTC [+] {2}
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11:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00090786 = 3.4045 BTC [+]
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12:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6718 @ 0.000903 = 6.0664 BTC [-]
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12:43 kakobreklaaa http://svet24.si/#!/clanek/52b15cb990ab7/mlada-slovenca-sluzita-milijone-pri-nas-o-tem-nihce-ne-ve-nic
12:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.002624 = 0.1732 BTC [-] {4}
12:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.00260974 = 0.3236 BTC [-] {8}
13:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG.F] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
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13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5388 @ 0.000903 = 4.8654 BTC [-]
13:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00090319 = 7.9481 BTC [+]
13:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00090556 = 2.0828 BTC [+]
14:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35218 @ 0.0009031 = 31.8054 BTC [-] {4}
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14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00090531 = 7.0162 BTC [+]
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15:12 kakobreklaaa sorry about that.
15:12 mircea_popescu !t m x.eur
15:12 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 (100 shares, 0.20 BTC), 7D: 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 (100 shares, 0.20 BTC), 30D: 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 / 0.00199998 (100 shares, 0.20 BTC)
15:13 mircea_popescu omfg it traded
15:15 mircea_popescu ajnd the buyer looks set to maybe turn a profit even
15:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00090531 = 5.794 BTC [+]
15:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00090314 = 3.4319 BTC [-]
15:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00090316 = 7.5414 BTC [+]
15:45 benkay so 7c *wants* to revive Stock Generation?
15:46 the20year2 7c?
15:47 benkay https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=7C
15:47 benkay trading rally is categorized as an event/development which will absorb funds to bring about
15:48 benkay agog is what i am
15:49 the20year2 Do any of you plan on migrating to, or participating in ciphertrade when they release?
15:50 b0n1 ;;seen davout
15:50 gribble davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 19 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <davout> amazing future
15:50 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
15:52 FabianB_ ;;calc 1/[ticker --currency eur --last]
15:52 gribble 0.00235294117647
15:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00090556 = 11.3195 BTC [+]
15:55 b0n1 is there an api for bitcoin-central?
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16:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00090498 = 3.7104 BTC [-]
16:25 dexX7 did you hear? mircea_popescu, the eccentric romanian hacker.. runs mpex, an exchange where transactions are processed by hand via air-gapped systems :D https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EkLwTlb0sCEp023pzZfd1bv9OnLOqqogqV-0wN-K_PM/
16:39 asciilifeform dexX7: did you actually read that thing? 'cloud machine'??!?
16:39 asciilifeform '...verifying that the hash of the code running on the Cloud Machine matches the hash of the code given at the time of the IPO...'
16:39 asciilifeform stoppped there.
16:40 dexX7 didn't made it so far, to be honest :D
16:41 kakobreklaaa http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/07/united-states-dollar-almost-doubles-in-value-in-a-single-day/
16:41 asciilifeform reminds me of a 'chicken recipe' sometimes attributed to the gypsies. '1) first, steal a chicken...'
16:42 mike_c heh. bitcoin company recipe: "1) first, ipo"
16:42 jborkl ?join #bitcoin-otc
16:43 jborkl ;;8ball
16:43 gribble Unlikely.
16:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5669 @ 0.00090577 = 5.1348 BTC [+] {3}
16:46 asciilifeform paging mp: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/12/18/india-diplomat-us-immunity/4108553/
16:47 asciilifeform (tldr: diplomat arse-searched)
16:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00090807 = 14.7498 BTC [+] {2}
16:51 kakobrekla anything found?
16:52 mike_c lots of curry
16:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14238 @ 0.00090812 = 12.9298 BTC [+] {2}
16:56 mike_c lol. india responds by "canceling duty-free liquor deliveries to the [US] embassy".
17:00 pankkake and shutting down their whole IT department
17:01 pankkake forum topic "Building my own Altcoin on windows,merkel and genesis hash" :| hmm maybe that was my Coinion idea, Deutschcoin based on Merkel hashes
17:02 the20year2 Is there a way to generate an altcoin that can pay out in other coins? I keep kicking around this idea of a coin backed by physical goods/items, but don't know a way to do it without inflating it , or paying out to holders
17:04 pankkake if you want to back with something, you'd need a centralized issuer, and trust that issuer
17:04 the20year2 Yeah
17:04 pankkake that's what colored coins, ripple, etc. can provide. see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149533.0 as an experiment
17:05 the20year2 how is ripple doing it?
17:05 pankkake you have to add a trust line to an issuer, and then you can use its currency
17:05 the20year2 and it can be traded in ripples?
17:06 pankkake beware that if you add trust line for the same currency (i.e. btc) it can decide to exchange it between issuers without telling you
17:06 pankkake no, ripples never enter the picture
17:06 the20year2 Interesting
17:06 pankkake except maybe as fees
17:06 the20year2 I'm asking this specifically in terms of doing this with backing up coins as a specific set interest in income producing real estate here in the US , then trying to figure a viable way to pay back coin holders interest
17:07 pankkake it looks like you're just reinventing shares ;)
17:07 the20year2 Correct, on something outside of an exchange
17:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 145 @ 0.001 = 0.145 BTC
17:10 mike_c dexX7 just posted to a link to a paper describing what you want
17:11 mike_c and here's mp's opinion on it: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
17:13 the20year2 MP?
17:14 mike_c mircea popescu, founder of mpex
17:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00090316 = 17.2052 BTC [-] {4}
17:14 the20year2 I didn't realize he was the foudner of mpex. Is he the one that deals with issuing?
17:15 mike_c http://trilema.com/2012/how-does-one-list-on-mpex/
17:15 ozbot How does one list on MPEx ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:15 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=271711.0 MP aka Your God
17:15 ozbot Why MP is your God.
17:16 the20year2 wot?
17:16 the20year2 GUess they only want BTC involved/denominated then
17:16 the20year2 :(
17:21 mike_c you run rentalstarter, right? you could probably list on havelock.
17:21 the20year2 Yeah, i'm looking at any exchange realy, but i'm worried about legalities and trying to avoid future problems
17:22 the20year2 We're doing pretty good overall IMO business wise, but I need access to more capital, sadly.
17:22 mike_c tough to avoid legal issues when raising capital
17:22 the20year2 Eh , it just needs to be done right, and our lawyer isn't too favorable for havelock
17:23 mike_c any crowdfunded/btc-funded raise is going to be legally challenging in the US
17:23 the20year2 Yes and no, from his standpoint we can do it, as long as we attempt to set in place a measure to limit/keep US citizens from investing
17:24 mike_c good luck getting BTC investors to send in proof of residence :)
17:25 dexX7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bxaGMddBNg "if the us misbehaves, this is what is gonna happen!1" lol
17:25 ozbot Devyani Khobragade's arrest: police lift barricades outside US embassy in Delhi - YouTube
17:25 the20year2 Of course, so then there's some other methods that he felt would be SEC compliant with what we're doing, and he felt (From what he knows) that ciphertrade might be a better candidate than havelock
17:26 mike_c ciphertrade.. that exchange that hasn't launched yet. i have this bad feeling about where you're headed.
17:26 the20year2 Well, everything we're doing is reviewed by our legal council
17:26 mike_c who suggested ciphertrade.
17:26 the20year2 My brother, who gave info to my attourney
17:27 mike_c you are investing in real estate. forget about btc. go find USD investors.
17:27 the20year2 I will once I feel that we're sizable enough to warrant a PPM
17:28 the20year2 which is the threshold, since a PPM will require us to spend say $8k or so
17:28 mike_c if that is the direction you are headed, you are not going to want the monkey on your back of a thousand tiny btc investors.
17:29 the20year2 US BTC investors :) International investors are fine, and we can microfund that way
17:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 712 @ 0.00281112 = 2.0015 BTC [-] {4}
17:30 mike_c ok. good luck. i think you're playing with fire, but hopefully you make it.
17:31 the20year2 We have decent legal council on retainer, our understanding seems to be good. Thankfully the SEC does have a grace period for US investors if we have any, and this last bitfunder purge brought it to our attention.
17:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00090828 = 7.7658 BTC [+] {2}
17:32 the20year2 At some point, hopefully in the next 2-3 months we'll be able to access traditional lending methods and this won't be an issue
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00090871 = 14.4485 BTC [+] {3}
17:42 mikaeldice You're in real estate, the20year2 ? What makes the volatility of bitcoin a good choice for investment funds? Last resort?
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02199999 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2}
17:47 mikaeldice It seems like you'd be taking on a lot of currency risk by sinking investors' BTC into fiat and then real estate
17:48 mike_c on a different topic, what happened to your hack challenge mikael? still going to do it?
17:49 mikaeldice I need some time to set it up. I don't want people calling it a scam, so I might just put up the server and make it a free for all
17:49 mike_c you mean no bounty?
17:50 BingoBoingo ;;later tell asciilifeform The Cardano is going to be soundproof, right? http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/18/2122226/scientists-extract-rsa-key-from-gnupg-using-sound-of-cpu
17:50 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:50 mikaeldice A tiny bounty, but no entry fees. I don't want to take people's money, even if it'd make the challenge more interesting. At the same time, with little to gain, I would make the bounty much smaller
17:52 mike_c the gain is proof of your system, right? unless you are expecting to get hacked and the gain is for you to learn about holes.
17:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this attack is simply a variant of the traditional 'Differential Power Analysis'
17:53 mikaeldice Dual purpose: If nobody hacks it, this adds evidence of 'sufficiency' with the security, and if someone does hack it then I can patch the holes and reinit the prize until no more holes are found
17:53 BingoBoingo Ah
17:53 asciilifeform the sound is coming from the power supply inductor
17:53 asciilifeform this is really from the fact that a pc cpu is a monster hog
17:54 asciilifeform and typically exists in one of two states - 'halt', with reduced power draw, and 'run' (interrupt throws cpu out of halt state.)
17:54 asciilifeform idle loop in modern os scheduler sits the cpu in 'halt'
17:56 asciilifeform virtually any device containing a switched power supply 'hisses' this way
17:56 asciilifeform there are no inductors (switching power supply or otherwise) in cardano...
17:57 asciilifeform nor is the 'low power state' feature of the microcontroller made use of; nor is there an operating system, in the usual sense, or a scheduler...
17:57 the20year2 mikaeldice: for us it was just a way to crowdsource funding on something that traditional investors wouldn't bite into
17:59 the20year2 The hope/assumption in the beginning was that we would be able to outpace the appreciation of bitcoin through the way we are handling real estate. Growth has been fantastic, but it hasn't outpaced bitcoin like we'd hoped. So, then the hope later on, and it hasn't come to fruitition was a reverse hedge against BTC.USD drops like what we've been seeing. I tried to get investments again when BTC hit $1200 and few I talked
17:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10724 @ 0.00090502 = 9.7054 BTC [-]
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [+]
18:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.0009093 = 41.2822 BTC [+] {5}
18:03 zz_ asiclifeform: isn't the CPU running at a few Ghz, while sound <20Khz? What exactly would the cellphone pick up?
18:05 mike_c that is actually the crux of the paper.
18:05 asciilifeform zz_: it's picking up 'idle' vs 'halted'
18:05 asciilifeform from which one can deduce execution path.
18:05 asciilifeform this is a variation on the old theme of cache probe attack
18:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00090502 = 8.0999 BTC [-]
18:06 asciilifeform (as noted in the paper)
18:06 zz_ didn't read the PDF. Guess that would help.
18:07 mike_c tldr: "In a nutshell, the key extraction attack relies on crafting chosen ciphertexts that cause numerical
18:07 mike_c cancellations deep inside GnuPG’s modular exponentiation algorithm. This causes the special value
18:07 mike_c zero to appear frequently in the innermost loop of the algorithm, where it afects control fow. A single
18:07 mike_c iteration of that loop is much too fast for direct acoustic observation, but the efect is repeated and
18:07 mike_c amplifed over many thousands of iterations, resulting in a gross leakage effect that is discernible in the
18:07 mike_c acoustic spectrum over hundreds of milliseconds"
18:07 mike_c that pasted poorly
18:08 asciilifeform the bit about leaking electrolytic caps 'buzzing' is unsurprising.
18:09 mike_c so the good news, as far as i can tell, is that you have to be decrypting a known, specially crafted message.
18:09 asciilifeform 'More generally, we observed strong positive correlation between machine
18:09 asciilifeform age, in terms of calendar time and usage, and the cryptanalytic usefulness of their acoustic emanations.'
18:10 asciilifeform that statement, even if true - i can almost see the censor's red ink slipping that in.
18:13 dub applied to snarfing bitcoin keys in 3-2-
18:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00090945 = 9.7766 BTC [+]
18:25 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I imagine few consumer things being as loud as a Netburst era Pentium 4, for most definitions of loud.
18:25 asciilifeform anything which oscillates rapidly between 'draws plenty of power' and 'draws little' is: a transmitter.
18:26 asciilifeform audio, rf, optical (ir!), etc.
18:26 asciilifeform this is no revelation of any kind.
18:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.001 = 0.4 BTC
18:40 samy_ hello
18:40 kakobrekla hi
18:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.00045 = 2.25 BTC [-]
18:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04888 = 0.1955 BTC [-]
18:46 dub yes hello
18:59 dub mircea_popescu: finally a case for colored coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg4029004#msg4029004
19:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 32 @ 0.10294155 = 3.2941 BTC [-] {5}
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.08 = 1.04 BTC [-]
19:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.01866781 = 0.7467 BTC [-] {10}
19:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1900 @ 0.00045 = 0.855 BTC [-]
19:03 ll ooh vtx dump time
19:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 23 @ 0.1 = 2.3 BTC [+]
19:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.09998516 = 2.6996 BTC [-] {4}
19:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 21 @ 0.1 = 2.1 BTC [+]
19:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.093 = 0.279 BTC [-]
19:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 602 @ 0.00045 = 0.2709 BTC [-] {3}
19:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.093 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2}
19:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 377 @ 0.000435 = 0.164 BTC [-]
19:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1490 @ 0.00043501 = 0.6482 BTC [+]
19:25 KRS|Gotyawallet colored coins is racist
19:29 dub naggercoin
19:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.1 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}
19:29 KRS|Gotyawallet used for purchasing fried chicken and watermelon at a discount
19:30 topace mmmmmmm fried chicken
19:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+]
19:36 KRS|Gotyawallet wow there's a name from the past
19:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
19:43 nubbins` http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?nick=nubbins%60
19:43 ozbot #bitcoin-otc order book
19:43 nubbins` i'm fishing :D
19:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 25 @ 0.05892203 = 1.4731 BTC [-] {15}
20:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.0915 = 0.183 BTC [-]
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-] {2}
20:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.07966666 = 0.239 BTC [-] {2}
20:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.07805 = 0.1561 BTC [-] {2}
20:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.02099999 = 0.546 BTC [-] {2}
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00090851 = 13.6731 BTC [-]
20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 54 @ 0.07703055 = 4.1596 BTC [-] {3}
20:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 31 @ 0.05959354 = 1.8474 BTC [-] {5}
20:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.022189 = 0.2219 BTC [+] {3}
20:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 470 @ 0.00047491 = 0.2232 BTC [+] {6}
20:48 benkay ;;ticker --market btcavg
20:48 gribble BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 510.04, Best ask: 511.53, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 510.13, 24 hour volume: 412704.96, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 557.2
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1010 @ 0.001 = 1.01 BTC
20:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.0999874 = 0.7999 BTC [+] {3}
20:56 skylax can anyone hear me?
20:56 bloctoc they will cease having fiat issues when people cease using fiat
20:57 BingoBoingo bloctoc: On some level people will always continue using some fiat in some role. You have to buy toothpaste sometime.
20:58 skylax the goverenment will always have the power to shut down crypto, they just won't do it yet
20:58 bloctoc you don't anymore have to use fiat to buy toothpaste.
20:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.09999989 = 0.3 BTC [+]
20:59 bloctoc whole foods on gyft for example
21:02 bloctoc skylax - how on earth would the government shut down crypto?
21:03 benkay BingoBoingo: it doesn't look like they use localbitcoins. i wonder if that's even an option for them.
21:04 BingoBoingo bloctoc: Why would I want to consider parting with something valuable like BTC for a consumable like toothpast though.
21:04 BingoBoingo Fiat will alway have that niche of stuff too boring to trade BTC for
21:04 BingoBoingo benkay: Who knows
21:07 skylax @bloctoc they could easily block the protocol channels of any bitcoin related subjects. RIght now there is a bit of battle going on between bitcoin and legal institutions, if bitcoin wins, meaning it can bypass the law, then I'm pretty sure a lot of other things in society will probably be used to bypass the law in the same manner.
21:10 BingoBoingo skylax: I think you are mistaken. Bitcoin is now the law and BitBet the court.
21:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 136 @ 0.00243997 = 0.3318 BTC [-] {10}
21:11 benkay don't go overboard with the sycophancy now BingoBoingo
21:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.09999988 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
21:12 benkay *elbow elbow*
21:12 bloctoc skylax you mean like China blocks CNN? There's no battle right now, at most there's fincen bragging that they found a way to fit bitcoin into their own status quo. I really suspect bureaucrats everywhere don't give a shit except that reporters only want to talk about bitcoin.
21:13 BingoBoingo benkay: Sycophants aren't a bad thing, either to have or to be. I will admit though that mircea_popescu has made some poor decisions like Market Making X.idiff.
21:13 benkay that has to have been a painful exercise.
21:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0487 = 0.6818 BTC [-]
21:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.07400001 = 0.148 BTC [-] {2}
21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.09999988 = 1 BTC [+] {3}
21:25 skylax_ @bloctoc the beaucrats will eventually give a shit if bitcoin becomes too mainstream and manages to manipulate other currencies
21:26 skylax @bloctoc the beaucrats will eventually give a shit if bitcoin becomes too mainstream and manages to manipulate other currencies
21:26 skylax @bloctoc what do you think the future of bitcoin will look like?
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 198 @ 0.001 = 0.198 BTC
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 29 @ 0.09499992 = 2.755 BTC [+] {9}
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00090667 = 5.984 BTC [-]
21:36 bloctoc skylax - A bunch of regulatory functions will be better served by crypto. Monetary policy is the most obvious, but there will be other "industries" that will be made redundant. There will be no more credit checks unless you actually want a loan. SEC no longer needed except for enforcement. Title insurance gone. Toothpaste still around.
21:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6476 @ 0.00090532 = 5.8629 BTC [-] {2}
21:38 bloctoc I'm pretty excited about the functionality suggested by mastercoin, ripple, and colored coins. I get that all those are not solid technically yet, but the direction is clearly laid out for those who care to believe.
21:39 bloctoc oh, and cherry trucks on the cover of Rolling Stone.
21:42 KRS|Gotyawallet cherry truck bonus ftw
21:43 KRS|Gotyawallet bloctoc a lot of bitcoiners are not happy with mastercoin for instance because they're saying its centralized and a large portion of the wealth is privately owned
21:43 monolithik mastercoin is a joke. ripple is technologically interesting but will probably be a failure due to high complexity and relative need for centralized trusted parties
21:44 KRS|Gotyawallet ^^^^^^^^^^^
21:44 monolithik colored coins have potential but none of the implementations are of sufficient quality yet
21:46 BingoBoingo Look, if you want to ipo without any gatekeepers isn't cryptostocks questionable enough for you?
21:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10640 @ 0.00090425 = 9.6212 BTC [-]
21:47 bloctoc If I knew MP personally, then sure. but MP might be the FBI for all I know.
21:48 KRS|Gotyawallet nah he'd be more like the KGB
21:48 bloctoc … unless "cryptostocks" is more than some generic term. In which case I never heard of it.
21:48 KRS|Gotyawallet or the Somalian Mob
21:48 BingoBoingo bloctoc: Cryptostocks is the Vircurex spinoff Vircurex IPO'd itself on
21:48 bloctoc got it.
21:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27001 BTC [+]
22:00 skylax bloctoc: I suppose the efficiency of crypto will erase many of worthless industries, but crowdsource law is pretty complex and unreliable so some kind of institution will still be present, if somehow someone made crowdsourced law work, then this method would be used in all legal fields such as commercial law and criminal law etc. Also to mention crypto if heavily technology dependent, if the power goes out, we go back to cave
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22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00090425 = 2.3058 BTC [-]
22:28 bloctoc …if the power goes out, we go back to cave - yes crypto or no crypto that's true. Same argument for breaking SHA256. As far as crowdsource law it will be nice to see some template corporations that get set up by copy/paste instead of paying a lawyer $10K to copy/paste. For what it's worth, I do think the smart contracts will do that for us.
22:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37584 @ 0.00090762 = 34.112 BTC [+] {2}
22:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29666 @ 0.00090985 = 26.9916 BTC [+] {6}
22:41 skylax bloctoc: what do you mean template corporations?
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22:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC
22:58 Bugpowder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNi1o74DaIk
22:58 ozbot x-dream - the 5th dimension (live in paris) - YouTube
23:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00091079 = 13.7529 BTC [+] {3}
23:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00273497 = 0.268 BTC [+] {4}
23:29 mircea_popescu the20year2 yeah, i handle ipos.
23:36 jborkl Hi mircea
23:38 mircea_popescu hey jborkl
23:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform bloodcurdingly obnoxious shit. "everyone respect the laws" ? bs.
23:39 mircea_popescu dub beware that yellow snow!
23:41 mircea_popescu ;;later tell dexx7 guy was actually emailing me about the thing. i sent him a list of no's and the way we left it was he's gonna lurk here for a while figure shit out.
23:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:42 Bugpowder http://www.prweb.com/releases/galtsgulchchile/20131112/prweb11324365.htm
23:44 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i never marketmade x.idiff ?! what are you talkin' about ?
23:44 nubbins` galt's gulch chile
23:44 nubbins` i bet it's full of insufferable assholes
23:44 Bugpowder I sold $20k to a nice family of four in Santa Monica
23:44 Bugpowder @ $1200/coin
23:45 Bugpowder I think it was their life savings :(
23:45 Bugpowder They just wanted to move to Chile...
23:45 nubbins` wow
23:45 mircea_popescu nubbins` they were trying to sell me on the thing. i tell you i don't see it, why would you want to go hang out there ?
23:46 nubbins` that's what, like 17 btc
23:46 mircea_popescu Bugpowder is a family of four mean a guy and three women ?
23:46 truffles lol
23:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Ah, I must have confused futures and options
23:46 Bugpowder Geeky father, overbearing fat mother, two incredibly cute blond girls
23:46 nubbins` mircea_popescu: i remember a while back this guy on the forums had a huge thesis-length post about "bitcoin land", a place where bitcoin would be used everywhere
23:46 mircea_popescu sounds dreamy.
23:46 Bugpowder they need bitcoin to go to $2500 to afford their land
23:46 nubbins` he waited 8 or 9 paragraphs before bringing up the drug therapies
23:47 Bugpowder warned them not to manic sell if it were to drop... I hope the held on...
23:47 mircea_popescu nubbins` gotta give junkies credit when they manage to hold off for a thousand words before bringin; it.
23:47 mircea_popescu Bugpowder i'll bet you they're out at ~550
23:47 Bugpowder Maybe 382
23:47 Bugpowder out at 382!
23:47 Bugpowder couldn't take it
23:47 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo re options, you gotta understand that ecosystems are born out of shit.
23:47 mircea_popescu if nobody shits nothing grows.
23:48 mircea_popescu Bugpowder it never went as low as 382 did it ?!
23:48 Bugpowder on bitstamp!
23:48 nubbins` mircea_popescu: you gotta do something like that in a city, not out in the woods. e.g. freetown christiania
23:48 Bugpowder it did
23:48 xoinfinityox you should have traded for the girls
23:48 mircea_popescu nubbins` when i was a mobster i didn't wanna go live with all the other mobsters. generally this seems to be a common trend, too, people don't seem to go "a shit, you know what'd be cool ? let's move upstate. the city's a toilet!"
23:49 mircea_popescu xoinfinityox "HOW MUCH FOR THE LITTLE GIRL!!!"
23:49 Bugpowder sup xoinfinityox
23:49 xoinfinityox sup bug
23:49 xoinfinityox I WANT TO BUY YOUR WOMEN
23:49 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/GDXYzUlv0S8
23:49 ozbot How much for the little girl? - YouTube
23:49 xoinfinityox i pay only in dogecoins
23:49 Bugpowder I have enough women in my life
23:50 nubbins` lies
23:50 Bugpowder another daughter on the way...
23:50 mircea_popescu Bugpowder it'll suck to be you when you're 50 and old and frail
23:50 mircea_popescu and their periods syncronise.
23:50 nubbins` heh
23:50 Bugpowder I will never be frail
23:50 mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcNcJuTHVo << Bugpowder in 10 years.
23:50 ozbot katie kaboom - YouTube
23:50 nubbins` one week each month, the bathroom garbage fills up much quicker than usual
23:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.06771428 = 0.948 BTC [-] {4}
23:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.06422222 = 0.578 BTC [-] {3}
23:52 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mircea_popescu remind me in 10 years to neg Bugpowder if his "i will never be frail" promise turns out to be made of milk.
23:52 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:53 Bugpowder dude
23:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 27 @ 0.06336149 = 1.7108 BTC [-] {3}
23:53 Bugpowder I will be frail around 80 maybe
23:53 Bugpowder I got 45 years
23:54 Bugpowder of strength and virility
23:54 Bugpowder left
23:54 mircea_popescu okok
23:54 truffles 5* years tops
23:54 KRS|Gotyawallet how's the libedo
23:54 Bugpowder babies fuck that up tho
23:54 mircea_popescu they do ?!
23:54 Bugpowder Do you even lift?
23:55 nubbins` ok enough of this, gonna print one more color
23:55 Bugpowder I gotta get my T checked
23:55 mircea_popescu lmao
23:55 nubbins` we got a rush job earlier today, due tomorrow ;(
23:55 Bugpowder my buddy just started getting T supplementation
23:55 mircea_popescu perfect delivery of dyel!
23:55 nubbins` i've got a friend who takes t
23:55 pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: just curious, what do you think bitcoin is worth right now?
23:56 mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 1 btc per, exactly.
23:56 pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: and how about in terms of USD?
23:56 mircea_popescu the dollar however, i don't think is worth very much.
23:56 Bugpowder oh shit... They needed their coins to appreciate to $75,000??
23:56 mircea_popescu sorta like a badly managed pmb, i guess some people show green playing with fire, but overall...
23:56 mircea_popescu it's gonna be a loss.
23:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.0655 = 0.655 BTC [+]
23:56 Bugpowder Its going to take a while to get to $4,000 / btc I think. Doubt they will be able to hold on
23:57 mircea_popescu Bugpowder http://bitbet.us/bet/635/1btc-10-000-usd/
23:57 mircea_popescu so far 90/60
23:57 Bugpowder No more gambling for bugpowder
23:57 mircea_popescu not for you, for them. plunk the whiole thing down on yes :D
23:57 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#c2087 << the experts say so anyway.
23:58 ozbot BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014
23:59 pizzaman1337 so do you think it's currently worth more or less than $500 per coin? (seems to be hovering at around 500)
23:59 Bugpowder lol
23:59 Bugpowder MOAR duh
23:59 pizzaman1337 well hey
23:59 pizzaman1337 http://trilema.com/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/
23:59 xoinfinityox www.gamblersanonymous.org
23:59 ozbot People Bitcoin is not worth 100+ dollars per. STOP BUYING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:59 Bugpowder That was a long time ago dude
23:59 pizzaman1337 he's made calls in the past
23:59 mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 a lot changed since spring.
23:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.06328875 = 0.5063 BTC [-] {3}
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