| 00:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.29495036 = 1.4748 BTC [+] {3} |
| 00:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 294 @ 0.003 = 0.882 BTC [+] |
| 00:15 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tXSdYIgAAo |
| 00:15 |
ozbot |
Afroman - Keep It Movin - YouTube |
| 00:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 91 @ 0.0032 = 0.2912 BTC [+] |
| 00:22 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHVH0UEbEQg |
| 00:22 |
ozbot |
Fucking David Mitchell's Soapbox, says Hitler - YouTube |
| 00:25 |
dub |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8GHCQyMRU |
| 00:25 |
ozbot |
Nimbin Joint Rolling Contest-Australia - YouTube |
| 00:25 |
Vexual |
now thats what i call comic timing |
| 00:25 |
dub |
which one is Vexual? |
| 00:25 |
Vexual |
u dud |
| 00:26 |
Vexual |
50 years to a microsecond |
| 00:27 |
Vexual |
whats going on? theres a midget |
| 00:27 |
Vexual |
theres no punchline is there? |
| 00:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 85 @ 0.00345 = 0.2933 BTC [+] |
| 00:30 |
Vexual |
i won 12 minutes ago |
| 00:31 |
Vexual |
stand up[ if youre done. lol |
| 00:31 |
Vexual |
#http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phc6_raUBvk |
| 00:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 196 @ 0.0035 = 0.686 BTC [+] |
| 00:33 |
Vexual |
its classy coz projectors nubbins |
| 00:37 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GecUBSccqqg |
| 00:37 |
ozbot |
Katy Perry sings Niggas in Paris (Cover) Live Lounge - YouTube |
| 00:41 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8u7MNG-ug8 |
| 00:41 |
ozbot |
Goldie - Innercity Life - YouTube |
| 00:45 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmlVCQ_WDHQ |
| 00:45 |
ozbot |
Killing Zoe - "If it wasn't for my country..." - YouTube |
| 00:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17745 @ 0.00088715 = 15.7425 BTC [-] |
| 00:47 |
Vexual |
its always about a girl, even when its sbout the money |
| 00:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14799999 BTC [+] |
| 00:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14799999 BTC [+] |
| 00:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14799999 BTC [+] |
| 00:52 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PhkjsmfYa8 |
| 00:52 |
ozbot |
Nuthin But Time!..... H.M.S , RBC , 2 Kingz - YouTube |
| 00:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC |
| 00:57 |
Vexual |
hey dj |
| 00:58 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcsEop0NPGM |
| 00:58 |
ozbot |
ODB- Brooklyn Zoo Video - YouTube |
| 01:01 |
Vexual |
;;ticker --market btchigh |
| 01:01 |
gribble |
Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['btcde', 'mtgox', 'bfx', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btsp', 'btce', 'btcavg'] or 'all' |
| 01:02 |
Vexual |
;;ticker --market btcchina |
| 01:02 |
gribble |
BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 873.824, Best ask: 873.84045, Bid-ask spread: 0.01645, Last trade: 873.824, 24 hour volume: 78928.72000000, 24 hour low: 863.7895, 24 hour high: 929.096, 24 hour vwap: 902.069256272 |
| 01:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00308998 = 0.1267 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:04 |
Vexual |
;;gribble imaginevalue |
| 01:04 |
gribble |
yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me? |
| 01:04 |
pankkake |
;;ticker --market btcavg |
| 01:04 |
gribble |
BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 867.54, Best ask: 871.87, Bid-ask spread: 4.33000, Last trade: 870.74, 24 hour volume: 82668.28, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 895.28 |
| 01:05 |
pankkake |
btcchina has a btcusd? |
| 01:05 |
Vexual |
no |
| 01:05 |
Vexual |
did i do it wrong? |
| 01:06 |
Vexual |
gribble dont yuan? |
| 01:06 |
pankkake |
perhaps it converts to USD, which is actually neat |
| 01:09 |
Vexual |
i still care more about ringgits, and i havent sold a pirate 1.44 for years |
| 01:09 |
Vexual |
we called them greendiscs |
| 01:09 |
benkay` |
;;ud ringit |
| 01:09 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ringit | When a person licks their fingers and creates a ring below the lit end of a blunt to make it burn evenly. This stops the blunt from running. |
| 01:09 |
ozbot |
Urban Dictionary: ringit |
| 01:10 |
Vexual |
malaysian ringgit |
| 01:10 |
benkay` |
i know |
| 01:10 |
Vexual |
well fucking spell it right |
| 01:10 |
benkay` |
chill v |
| 01:11 |
Vexual |
do it, it's a bot |
| 01:11 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 75 @ 0.00375 = 0.2813 BTC [-] |
| 01:11 |
Vexual |
thats pre internet kids |
| 01:12 |
benkay` |
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-08/bitcoin-derivatives-market-has-arrived |
| 01:12 |
ozbot |
The Bitcoin Derivatives Market Has Arrived | Zero Hedge |
| 01:14 |
Vexual |
i cant see anything, what does it say? |
| 01:14 |
Vexual |
zerohedge sounds like an axleload of bullshit |
| 01:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.09649982 = 0.193 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.15000001 BTC [+] |
| 01:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.04758706 = 0.3331 BTC [+] {4} |
| 01:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28702001 BTC [-] |
| 01:20 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHHT7dTmw8U |
| 01:20 |
ozbot |
Busta Rhymes - Gimme Some More - YouTube |
| 01:23 |
truffles |
good times |
| 01:25 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sggop35FAZk |
| 01:25 |
ozbot |
Lady Sovereign I Got You Dancing Young Live Remix - YouTube |
| 01:25 |
Vexual |
such dive |
| 01:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14860001 BTC [-] |
| 01:26 |
Vexual |
such is dife |
| 01:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14860001 BTC [-] |
| 01:28 |
Vexual |
suck blocjchain lezness |
| 01:28 |
Vexual |
dife |
| 01:28 |
Vexual |
dufe |
| 01:28 |
Vexual |
duke |
| 01:28 |
Vexual |
dyke |
| 01:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14880001 BTC [+] |
| 01:29 |
truffles |
die |
| 01:30 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14880001 BTC [+] |
| 01:30 |
pankkake |
;;estimate |
| 01:30 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 1052596732.1 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days |
| 01:30 |
pankkake |
nooooooooo |
| 01:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14890001 BTC [+] |
| 01:32 |
Vexual |
in like tat? |
| 01:34 |
truffles |
19 days to go still |
| 01:35 |
Vexual |
;seen tat |
| 01:35 |
truffles |
;;seen TAT |
| 01:35 |
gribble |
I have not seen TAT. |
| 01:35 |
Vexual |
dickhead |
| 01:35 |
pankkake |
;;seen ThickAsThieves |
| 01:35 |
gribble |
ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 4 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> ;;estimate |
| 01:35 |
pankkake |
hehehe |
| 01:35 |
Vexual |
:) |
| 01:36 |
truffles |
he's still in room u know |
| 01:36 |
Vexual |
hes on the hotline to any journalist |
| 01:37 |
Vexual |
michelle phipper |
| 01:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14729999 = 0.2946 BTC [-] |
| 01:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14709999 = 0.5884 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14669999 = 0.2934 BTC [-] |
| 01:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8521 @ 0.0008871 = 7.559 BTC [-] {2} |
| 01:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00299 = 0.1047 BTC [+] |
| 01:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.28701002 = 1.7221 BTC [-] {3} |
| 01:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 52 @ 0.00377 = 0.196 BTC [+] |
| 01:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 75 @ 0.00389 = 0.2918 BTC [+] |
| 02:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 82 @ 0.0039 = 0.3198 BTC [+] |
| 02:08 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5xnc1p7BMk |
| 02:08 |
ozbot |
AC/DC - JailBreak - YouTube |
| 02:09 |
truffles |
i wish i can fly |
| 02:12 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6RhEWMRFc |
| 02:12 |
ozbot |
AC/DC - Girls Got Rhythm (Official Video) - YouTube |
| 02:14 |
truffles |
such a good band |
| 02:14 |
Vexual |
never heard of em |
| 02:15 |
truffles |
ac dc! |
| 02:20 |
Vexual |
im gonna set fire to some shit. audi |
| 02:21 |
pankkake |
such good band* |
| 02:21 |
pankkake |
much guitars |
| 02:22 |
pankkake |
many electrity |
| 02:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.05 = 1.05 BTC |
| 02:35 |
KRS1 |
such fun |
| 02:35 |
KRS1 |
god now you convinced me to buy doge coin |
| 02:35 |
KRS1 |
even you guys? |
| 02:36 |
KRS1 |
everybody is talking like that |
| 02:36 |
KRS1 |
I thought I was safe here |
| 02:36 |
KRS1 |
=/ |
| 02:36 |
pankkake |
there seem to be many giveaways |
| 02:37 |
KRS1 |
my god how much coin can this wale have almost 24 hours of dumping coins |
| 02:40 |
Vexual |
hmm a bonfire in daylight hours feels weird |
| 02:40 |
Vexual |
sometimes i wish i had friends |
| 02:41 |
truffles |
lol |
| 02:41 |
truffles |
only brings u grief in the end though |
| 02:41 |
Vexual |
or vice verse |
| 02:41 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6834 @ 0.00008412 = 0.5749 BTC [-] {13} |
| 02:41 |
Vexual |
i can mine all doge dont need friend |
| 02:41 |
truffles |
meh i dont think ppl know what the word means |
| 02:43 |
Vexual |
all i need is my hobo coins and a doge |
| 02:46 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmHBDDHO0nI |
| 02:46 |
Vexual |
theese die faster than a guinea pig and kill anything |
| 02:47 |
Vexual |
also cute |
| 02:47 |
truffles |
dogs so much work |
| 02:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 150 @ 0.00343666 = 0.5155 BTC [-] {2} |
| 02:48 |
Vexual |
kinda pretend from oldschool genses |
| 02:48 |
fiat500 |
why are people still purchasing KCIM which atm now just amounts to distressed debt? |
| 02:48 |
pankkake |
they must see "1764.71% yield"!!! |
| 02:49 |
fiat500 |
LOL yeah i saw that |
| 02:49 |
Vexual |
maybe 5th element |
| 02:50 |
truffles |
the 6th element was a good movie |
| 02:50 |
truffles |
or was it 5th |
| 02:50 |
Vexual |
7 is the key number here |
| 02:50 |
pankkake |
5th element 6th sense |
| 02:51 |
Vexual |
9 weeks? |
| 02:51 |
Vexual |
9.5 sorry |
| 02:52 |
Vexual |
who can name future scifi money? |
| 02:52 |
Vexual |
scifi future even |
| 02:52 |
Vexual |
there's chits in waterworld |
| 02:52 |
truffles |
when we watch movies, always comment on the low-techness of it |
| 02:53 |
Vexual |
fan cut of terminator with bitcoin? will it blend? |
| 02:53 |
truffles |
like timecop, floppy disks hehe |
| 02:54 |
Vexual |
how old was john conner in 09? |
| 02:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 360 @ 0.00299867 = 1.0795 BTC [+] {3} |
| 02:55 |
Vexual |
sent back mp to be his dad |
| 02:55 |
truffles |
dunno but i enjoyed the tv show version and somehow i quit it |
| 02:55 |
truffles |
who cancels on terminator! |
| 02:55 |
pankkake |
you quit on summer glau? |
| 02:55 |
Vexual |
hair came out curly and had limo instead of shitty dirtbike |
| 02:56 |
truffles |
? |
| 02:56 |
Vexual |
whats summe glau? |
| 02:57 |
pankkake |
how can you not know |
| 02:57 |
pankkake |
heretic |
| 02:57 |
Vexual |
hexen? |
| 02:57 |
pankkake |
hehe |
| 02:57 |
pankkake |
such game |
| 02:58 |
KRS1 |
this doggie talk is taking over the world. |
| 02:58 |
KRS1 |
vexual you might be safe out there idk |
| 02:58 |
KRS1 |
girls LOVE doge coin |
| 02:58 |
KRS1 |
they gotta have the goin |
| 02:58 |
KRS1 |
coin just because itsgcude |
| 02:59 |
truffles |
namecoin hows that doing? |
| 02:59 |
truffles |
cant go more generic than that |
| 02:59 |
Vexual |
u can still get a domain, but noone can see |
| 03:01 |
pankkake |
Vexual: http://pintaw.com/images/wallpapers/Summer-Glau-Wallpaper-1.jpg |
| 03:01 |
Vexual |
i remake hexen, and put hell dog everywhere where dogecoin is mine |
| 03:01 |
Vexual |
must shoot or die |
| 03:02 |
Vexual |
this game has better graphics i think |
| 03:02 |
Vexual |
is that her name? summer glue? |
| 03:03 |
KRS1 |
this dump is i cant believable |
| 03:03 |
pankkake |
Vexual: :( |
| 03:03 |
pankkake |
what dump |
| 03:03 |
pankkake |
usually unbelievable dumps happen in my toilet |
| 03:03 |
Vexual |
did i jest to truly? |
| 03:04 |
Vexual |
what dump |
| 03:04 |
Vexual |
value email if you like |
| 03:04 |
Vexual |
spam alone is worth 50 billion |
| 03:05 |
Vexual |
but if the network WAS money |
| 03:05 |
Vexual |
oi |
| 03:06 |
Vexual |
internet + money = internet + money |
| 03:06 |
truffles |
does money define the person hmm |
| 03:06 |
Vexual |
nope |
| 03:07 |
Vexual |
thats why "rich" guys keep doing what theyre doing so your grand puppies can have some semblence of a life |
| 03:07 |
truffles |
lotta ppl in the btc world dont seem poor, at least not before maybe after :D |
| 03:08 |
fiat500 |
all theoretical riches |
| 03:08 |
Vexual |
yeah |
| 03:08 |
fiat500 |
well, sorry, much of it is theoretical |
| 03:08 |
Vexual |
but still |
| 03:08 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
Ooooie...I can't believable..just like a leetle girl. |
| 03:08 |
pankkake |
I like your username fiat500 |
| 03:08 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
http://consumerist.com/2008/02/15/call-center-call-customer-little-girl-for-not-buying-computer/ |
| 03:08 |
truffles |
if they werent poor beforehand, id hope theyd try to expand the idea not get moar rich.. |
| 03:09 |
Vexual |
ask tat about real speakers |
| 03:09 |
fiat500 |
thanks pankkake, your nick is also really neat |
| 03:09 |
pankkake |
you dirty pervert! |
| 03:10 |
fiat500 |
sounds delicious... |
| 03:10 |
fiat500 |
:P |
| 03:10 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
yes, we all love pankkake |
| 03:10 |
truffles |
little pusssi girl hehe |
| 03:11 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
hehe |
| 03:12 |
truffles |
little hoooker |
| 03:13 |
Vexual |
it all went wrong after he askes.."chu want the floppy?" |
| 03:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29814284 = 2.087 BTC [+] {3} |
| 03:14 |
fiat500 |
i see the quality of discourse has taken a real hit here |
| 03:15 |
truffles |
improve it then |
| 03:16 |
fiat500 |
in time my friend |
| 03:16 |
Vexual |
are you a new fiat or an old fiat 500? |
| 03:16 |
Vexual |
i like new ones better and hate myself for it |
| 03:17 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
hold on to your undies little girls i guess we are going to wall street for moar leet trading |
| 03:17 |
pankkake |
are your tires inflated enough? |
| 03:17 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
get out your fav. trading terminals |
| 03:17 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/secondmarket-ceo-wall-street-put-203000747.html |
| 03:17 |
ozbot |
SecondMarket CEO: Wall Street Will Put 'Hundreds of Millions' Into Bitcoin - Yahoo Finance |
| 03:17 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
looks like i'll need a new wallet |
| 03:17 |
Vexual |
i think pankakke knows i roll old shit |
| 03:18 |
truffles |
lots of loans are gonna be taken out ? |
| 03:18 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
we're going to have to give moar leverage =D |
| 03:18 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
oh this is gonna be fun |
| 03:19 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
I got 10 mil on doge at .03 |
| 03:19 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
such profits |
| 03:19 |
fiat500 |
wall street isn't a thing, this secondmarket crap is no different than the tradehill and coinlab VC jokes |
| 03:19 |
fiat500 |
if i trade on NYSE does that automatically grant me "wall street" membership? |
| 03:19 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
fiat500: everyone has access and money to buy now, instead of these jokes we call exchanges |
| 03:19 |
fiat500 |
where is the line drawn, accredited investors? such bullshit |
| 03:20 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
the supply will be bought up |
| 03:20 |
pankkake |
for a journalist, "finance stuff" = "wall street" |
| 03:20 |
pankkake |
that's like "country" = "capital", just a fancy word |
| 03:20 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
would you rather a life with mtgox? |
| 03:20 |
fiat500 |
many people in finance have been trading btc since the early days |
| 03:21 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
this is opening up to new markets, nobody can buy virtual currency now only some people..now more can buy into it |
| 03:22 |
truffles |
i dont think its that easy to obtain btc.. |
| 03:22 |
fiat500 |
in the US it has never been difficult |
| 03:22 |
Vexual |
true dat |
| 03:22 |
fiat500 |
not sure about other places |
| 03:22 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
fiat500 what are you serious> |
| 03:22 |
truffles |
ya but ppl will have to "research" |
| 03:22 |
Vexual |
its equally difficult to obtainbing dollars |
| 03:23 |
fiat500 |
no there are firms that will deal offline with large investors |
| 03:23 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
fiat500 you know what you're right |
| 03:23 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
bbl |
| 03:23 |
truffles |
heh |
| 03:23 |
Vexual |
and if u wanna buy big in bejing u see puss |
| 03:24 |
truffles |
little pussi girl? |
| 03:24 |
Vexual |
da cat |
| 03:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 54 @ 0.00300001 = 0.162 BTC [-] {2} |
| 03:26 |
Vexual |
who was that german guy who got rumbled for 2000 bc and his laptop when the meet moved to a deserted country lane? |
| 03:26 |
fiat500 |
LOL |
| 03:27 |
fiat500 |
if you're trying to hide your gains from the tax man, you're gonna have a bad time |
| 03:27 |
Vexual |
thats the only violent bc thing i remembers sans what fbi said about dpr |
| 03:27 |
Vexual |
ive never done anything illegal in my life |
| 03:27 |
fiat500 |
not talking about you |
| 03:27 |
Vexual |
oh |
| 03:27 |
fiat500 |
i just realized the difficulty in obtaining btc people mentioned here is because people are trying to do it on the DL with cash |
| 03:28 |
truffles |
its shocking to me that its not truly annoymous.. |
| 03:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2155 @ 0.00286268 = 6.1691 BTC [-] {7} |
| 03:28 |
Vexual |
a btc trust is still legal in oz |
| 03:29 |
Vexual |
despite chinas double bluff |
| 03:31 |
Vexual |
and id guess a trust dont need a bank in china either |
| 03:32 |
Vexual |
whats the advantage of holding bc in trust i hear you ask |
| 03:32 |
fiat500 |
hahahaha |
| 03:32 |
fiat500 |
fine, tell me |
| 03:33 |
Vexual |
give me a new caper and i will |
| 03:33 |
fiat500 |
http://i.imgur.com/ncbSi.jpg |
| 03:33 |
Vexual |
thats an aussie lizard |
| 03:34 |
Vexual |
are you a sydney stockbroker? |
| 03:34 |
fiat500 |
never been to sydney |
| 03:35 |
Vexual |
i was selling this in sydney coke bars winnter '12 people thought i was retarded |
| 03:35 |
fiat500 |
O_o |
| 03:36 |
fiat500 |
the lizard or bitcoin? |
| 03:37 |
Vexual |
bc |
| 03:38 |
Vexual |
where are you from fiat? |
| 03:39 |
fiat500 |
im from the internet |
| 03:39 |
Vexual |
italia? |
| 03:39 |
fiat500 |
i wish |
| 03:39 |
Vexual |
lol |
| 03:39 |
Vexual |
think on it dude, i gotta go |
| 03:39 |
Vexual |
ciao |
| 03:40 |
fiat500 |
think on what |
| 03:40 |
fiat500 |
cya |
| 03:40 |
fiat500 |
what a guy |
| 03:40 |
truffles |
im here :) |
| 03:41 |
fiat500 |
was it you who wrote that article about asicminer being the next asicminer last summer? |
| 03:41 |
truffles |
lol no |
| 03:41 |
fiat500 |
who was it |
| 03:41 |
truffles |
i havent written any articles |
| 03:41 |
truffles |
dunno |
| 03:42 |
fiat500 |
well, "article" is pushing it |
| 03:44 |
truffles |
ever have a bunch of options and cant decide on one? |
| 03:44 |
fiat500 |
all the time |
| 03:47 |
truffles |
how do u choose? |
| 03:47 |
truffles |
i liked Sheldon's magic 8ball method |
| 03:47 |
fiat500 |
lol |
| 03:47 |
fiat500 |
i dont always choose |
| 03:47 |
fiat500 |
sometimes the choice is made for me, for whatever reason |
| 03:47 |
truffles |
mine arent srs ldo |
| 03:48 |
fiat500 |
direct result of there being other people on this planet |
| 03:48 |
truffles |
but they could steer my path |
| 03:48 |
fiat500 |
i say buy |
| 03:48 |
truffles |
sadly purchasing isnt usually my problem |
| |
~ 29 minutes ~ |
| 04:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] |
| 04:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00088706 = 5.7659 BTC [-] |
| 04:41 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
cant help but seeing all the good news lately..although i am not confident enough to put bitcoin in my IRA, some people might be crazy enough to do it..hey it could mean early retirement too |
| 04:41 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/11/fidelity-now-allows-clients-to-put-bitcoins-in-iras/? |
| 04:41 |
ozbot |
Fidelity now allows clients to put bitcoins in IRAs - The Tell - MarketWatch |
| 04:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+] |
| 04:58 |
Vexual |
my fire annoyed many naeighbours, caused a storm, and is currently cooking 3 kilo of chicken breasts mainly by smoke |
| 04:59 |
Vexual |
that timber was greener than i thought |
| 04:59 |
fiat500 |
yes |
| 05:00 |
Vexual |
chicks like smoked chicken breast |
| 05:00 |
Vexual |
and storms |
| 05:01 |
Vexual |
i thought someone had taken a photo, because the lthunder took 6 seconds after the ightening |
| 05:01 |
Vexual |
i lovce the tropics |
| 05:02 |
Vexual |
i was alone and there were no weirdos in the bushes |
| 05:03 |
Vexual |
but shes rolling up slowly |
| 05:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+] {2} |
| 05:07 |
Vexual |
so all you paleo kids whi wont eat quiche, i make storms when i cook my meat. dig? |
| 05:13 |
Vexual |
rain you kinky bitch! i dont want lightnng i want wetess |
| 05:14 |
Vexual |
you dont want to see vex go johannesburg on god let me tell you |
| 05:15 |
Vexual |
who would i call for the ransom? |
| 05:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC |
| 05:16 |
Vexual |
im moving location, i could piss a better monsoon than this |
| 05:16 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
vexual: hit me |
| 05:16 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
its too quiet in here |
| 05:17 |
Duffer1 |
move to american midwest, buy a trailor |
| 05:17 |
Duffer1 |
come to tornado ally, experience the wrath of god first hand |
| 05:17 |
Vexual |
thats not monsoonal duffer, but i hear its nice up in the hills |
| 05:18 |
Duffer1 |
:P |
| 05:18 |
Vexual |
fck bears |
| 05:19 |
Vexual |
give me tiger sharks and irukandji |
| 05:20 |
Vexual |
we get cyclones |
| 05:20 |
Vexual |
thats a tornado 50 miles wide |
| 05:20 |
Vexual |
my house is mainly glass |
| 05:21 |
Vexual |
im hauling ass inland and collecting insurance if one hits |
| 05:23 |
Vexual |
tornados dont do windspeeds like hurricanes or cyclones, you just build shit houses |
| 05:24 |
Vexual |
imagine strapping your house to the back of a truck and doing 300 down the highway |
| 05:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00088944 = 4.4917 BTC [+] |
| 05:24 |
Vexual |
a tornado is a little updraft |
| 05:29 |
Vexual |
yo wallet breath |
| 05:29 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYBDRKxKqnA |
| 05:29 |
ozbot |
Willie Nelson & Toots Hibbert - I'm A Worried Man - YouTube |
| 05:31 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
now playing |
| 05:32 |
Vexual |
lifes tough and god wont listen |
| 05:32 |
Vexual |
i want rain! |
| 05:33 |
Vexual |
god wants more smoke |
| 05:35 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgtn5ENojY miles davis |
| 05:35 |
ozbot |
Damian Marley - Smoke Gets In My Eyes - YouTube |
| 05:38 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
Sexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUqXWWb_ifA |
| 05:41 |
Vexual |
fuck boy, where are you from? |
| 05:41 |
Vexual |
im doing a rain dance here |
| 05:42 |
Vexual |
if you wanna get country, come to oz |
| 05:43 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUQzE7ff8pQ |
| 05:43 |
ozbot |
Paul Kelly - I've done all the dumb things - YouTube |
| 05:45 |
Vexual |
put that on your android head unit |
| 05:46 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Igxon-AS4 |
| 05:46 |
ozbot |
The Waifs - SunDirtWater - YouTube |
| 05:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.05 = 0.6 BTC |
| 05:52 |
sbp |
http://blog.coinbase.com/post/69775463031 |
| 05:52 |
ozbot |
Coinbase Raises $25 Million From Andreessen Horowitz - The Coinbase Blog |
| 05:53 |
Vexual |
whats the money for? |
| 05:54 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
Lunch. |
| 05:54 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
MOAR Chickun |
| 05:54 |
truffles |
sundirtwater very nice |
| 05:54 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
Litecoin is suppost to pop to $100 or so |
| 05:54 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
supposed |
| 05:54 |
Vexual |
yeah tuff ozzie |
| 05:55 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHNfWEkrL9I |
| 05:55 |
ozbot |
Cold Chisel - Best Of Cold Chisel - Khe Sanh - YouTube |
| 05:55 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
this paul kelly joint is allright |
| 05:55 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
i like it |
| 05:55 |
Vexual |
*truff |
| 05:59 |
truffles |
no to chisel |
| 05:59 |
Vexual |
they yore an idiot |
| 05:59 |
truffles |
... |
| 06:00 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2by810nulE absorb your culture boy |
| 06:00 |
ozbot |
Cold Chisel- Bow River - YouTube |
| 06:01 |
truffles |
nice intro |
| 06:02 |
Vexual |
vb is excellent too |
| 06:02 |
Vexual |
it wins medals |
| 06:02 |
Vexual |
u think bogans dont know about music and beer? |
| 06:03 |
truffles |
prefer the non-live versions |
| 06:03 |
Vexual |
its a 5 start bitter in holland |
| 06:05 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmtlqB0x59Y |
| 06:05 |
ozbot |
Traveling Wilburys End Of The Line - YouTube |
| 06:05 |
KRS1 |
damn power cut off |
| 06:06 |
Vexual |
your private school girlfriend's dad has this on the record player instead, its the same shit |
| 06:06 |
KRS1 |
hmm |
| 06:06 |
jurov |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522292/Prince-Georges-Christmas-sees-Prince-Harry-dressed-Santa-Claus.html |
| 06:06 |
ozbot |
Prince George's first Christmas sees Prince Harry dressed as Santa Claus | Mail Online |
| 06:06 |
jurov |
^ thestringpuller: ome inspiration how to do the painting |
| 06:07 |
KRS1 |
ppl are starting to say bitcoin is dead |
| 06:07 |
jurov |
nope, its undead |
| 06:07 |
Vexual |
yeah well the windsors have the travelling wilburys on lp, so i wouldnt worry yet |
| 06:09 |
Vexual |
smokin afghans is cool with the queen |
| 06:10 |
KRS1 |
i thinkk the big sales of coin on the markets got everyone figuring that if the price goes down to pennies wtf is the point |
| 06:10 |
Vexual |
how much sold this wek? |
| 06:10 |
KRS1 |
idk i dont have figures of all the markets |
| 06:10 |
KRS1 |
maybe bitcoincharts does |
| 06:11 |
BingoBoingo |
KRS1: If Litecoin breaks $100 it will probably happen as a side effect of BTC Breaking $5000-$10,000 |
| 06:11 |
Vexual |
not a pinch of shit dropped into a pond if you were looking for ripples on the edge |
| 06:11 |
Vexual |
people here make coin on volatility |
| 06:11 |
truffles |
that one prince is aging badly |
| 06:11 |
truffles |
way too skiny |
| 06:11 |
KRS1 |
these big sales are making people edgy |
| 06:11 |
truffles |
n |
| 06:12 |
Vexual |
the one with helicopters with 100mm chain guns? |
| 06:12 |
KRS1 |
BingoBoingo: Litecoins are breaking into new markets- forex and metal traders are now looking at it |
| 06:17 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPEhyxRSvYE |
| 06:17 |
ozbot |
Super Heavy Miracle Worker Official Music Video HD - YouTube |
| 06:20 |
truffles |
dont like this mix, female should be solo.. |
| 06:22 |
Vexual |
yeah aunty liz like teh stones |
| 06:22 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4UJLHFkWZ8 |
| 06:22 |
ozbot |
Yes Sir Boss ft Joss Stone - Come Together - YouTube |
| 06:22 |
Vexual |
its rain |
| 06:23 |
KRS1 |
i cant listen to all these songs so quick |
| 06:23 |
Vexual |
hit the last one coot |
| 06:23 |
truffles |
u can if u dont like em all |
| 06:25 |
truffles |
son of a preacher man shouldve been goto! |
| 06:25 |
truffles |
wait thats not her original song |
| 06:25 |
Vexual |
joss smoked more marijuana from age 14-18 than nubbins has ever smoked |
| 06:26 |
Vexual |
she broke song school |
| 06:27 |
Vexual |
cue it up truff |
| 06:27 |
truffles |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcpEte4plbw |
| 06:27 |
ozbot |
Joss Stone - Right To Be Wrong - YouTube |
| 06:28 |
KRS1 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axb2sHpGwHQ |
| 06:28 |
ozbot |
The Beatles - Come Together - YouTube |
| 06:31 |
Vexual |
i love joss |
| 06:32 |
Vexual |
beetles huh |
| 06:32 |
Vexual |
not in germany friend |
| 06:32 |
Vexual |
its about the moiney |
| 06:33 |
Vexual |
chinese imitation works |
| 06:33 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3C7DECI0jU |
| 06:33 |
ozbot |
Oasis - Champagne Supernova - YouTube |
| 06:34 |
Vexual |
you know the kraken will eat us like squid rings truffle? |
| 06:35 |
truffles |
umk |
| 06:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC |
| 06:37 |
Vexual |
u carpaccio with every permutation of yolo kid? |
| 06:38 |
truffles |
sure |
| 06:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3039999 = 0.912 BTC [+] |
| 06:39 |
KRS1 |
thats a great song dude |
| 06:39 |
Vexual |
krs sos your mom |
| 06:40 |
truffles |
great song indeed |
| 06:40 |
Vexual |
bwahahaa |
| 06:41 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPxL5guYmWw |
| 06:41 |
ozbot |
Silverchair - Tomorrow - YouTube |
| 06:41 |
Vexual |
best seattle |
| 06:42 |
truffles |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduDvIBu3EU |
| 06:42 |
ozbot |
Damien Rice - Volcano - Official Video - YouTube |
| 06:44 |
KRS1 |
that silverchair song is like one of my all time fav songs |
| 06:44 |
KRS1 |
do you guys like Jerry Cantrell - My Song |
| 06:44 |
Vexual |
yeah quality rockers krs |
| 06:45 |
Vexual |
the singer has ass cancer that requires herb and smokes with politicians |
| 06:45 |
Vexual |
needa herb anyway |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
some shit |
| 06:46 |
KRS1 |
everyone could use some herb |
| 06:46 |
truffles |
silverchair makes me think of matchbox20 |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E |
| 06:46 |
ozbot |
Midnight Oil - Beds Are Burning - YouTube |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
this guy was out education and environment minister for a bit |
| 06:46 |
Vexual |
ah fuck no germany |
| 06:48 |
KRS1 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=011M8LzW3yU |
| 06:48 |
ozbot |
Dancing Days-Stone Temple Pilots - YouTube |
| 06:49 |
KRS1 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=011M8LzW3yU |
| 06:49 |
ozbot |
Dancing Days-Stone Temple Pilots - YouTube |
| 06:50 |
truffles |
my song very nice |
| 06:50 |
KRS1 |
<TuxBlackEdo> first 10 people to PM me will get 1 Bitcoin |
| 06:50 |
KRS1 |
go for it he's looking for love |
| 06:51 |
truffles |
aww |
| 06:52 |
Vexual |
have you got anyones wallet? |
| 06:52 |
KRS|Gotyawallet |
no i wouldnt do that |
| 06:53 |
Vexual |
did some freenode fuck steal your name? |
| 06:53 |
Vexual |
coz i registered vex when my teeth went rotten |
| 06:53 |
Vexual |
*were'nt |
| 06:54 |
Vexual |
go away for 6 months ond lose your shit |
| 06:55 |
truffles |
dont need 6 months to do tha |
| 06:55 |
truffles |
t |
| 06:55 |
KRS|Gotyawallet |
no..there's someone with the name krs and krs1 was confusing |
| 06:56 |
KRS|Gotyawallet |
krs was registered and i didnt know it |
| 06:56 |
Vexual |
3 months they getcha |
| 06:56 |
truffles |
its not a unique name uknow :D |
| 06:56 |
KRS|Gotyawallet |
this one is |
| 06:56 |
Gotyawallet |
I registered like 10 variants of this one |
| 06:56 |
Gotyawallet |
haha |
| 06:57 |
Gotyawallet |
<todamoon> but i dont have real money to buy |
| 06:57 |
Gotyawallet |
<todamoon> only a few thousand bitcoins |
| 06:57 |
truffles |
i only have about 3 of this |
| 06:57 |
truffles |
if it gets claimed, im sure i can think of somethink else |
| 06:58 |
Gotyawallet |
you've been truffles forever |
| 06:58 |
rvex |
who would want truffles |
| 06:58 |
truffles |
some random who knows |
| 06:58 |
Gotyawallet |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdmDp8_l-3c |
| 06:58 |
ozbot |
Here Comes The Hotstepper With Lyrics - YouTube |
| 07:00 |
Vexual |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8lAiPeIB7s < works in europe |
| 07:00 |
ozbot |
Here Comes The Hotstepper Evian remix - YouTube |
| 07:00 |
Gotyawallet |
Hmm! I shall have to sample. |
| 07:01 |
Vexual |
you would |
| 07:05 |
Vexual |
are you at work kars1? |
| 07:07 |
truffles |
u didnt like "volcano"? |
| 07:08 |
Gotyawallet |
naw i dont work anymore..i just live off bitcoins |
| 07:08 |
Gotyawallet |
no bills really either |
| 07:08 |
Gotyawallet |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdV-_FP079A |
| 07:08 |
ozbot |
Driicky Graham "Snapbacks & Tattoos" - YouTube |
| 07:10 |
Gotyawallet |
That f'n song goes HAM at 1:05 |
| 07:12 |
truffles |
better end of ur rap links :D |
| 07:12 |
truffles |
take away that annoying female and it improves |
| 07:13 |
Gotyawallet |
i listen to everything |
| 07:14 |
truffles |
subpar things* |
| 07:15 |
Gotyawallet |
foggy and dreary sunrise on the atlantic east coast of south florida |
| 07:15 |
truffles |
eh eh eh eh? |
| 07:16 |
Gotyawallet |
haaha i love that part |
| 07:16 |
truffles |
i wish they edited that part out |
| 07:16 |
truffles |
is there a way to do so? |
| 07:16 |
Gotyawallet |
yep |
| 07:16 |
Gotyawallet |
i've done all kinds of things with audacity |
| 07:16 |
truffles |
i could clean up a bunch of songs |
| 07:17 |
Gotyawallet |
audacity ftw its ez |
| 07:17 |
Gotyawallet |
i made songs better, some longer and what not |
| 07:17 |
truffles |
cool |
| 07:17 |
truffles |
will look into this life changing tech |
| 07:18 |
Gotyawallet |
even gox's market sales data looks scammy..flatline at $885 is sticking out like a sore thumb..wtf. |
| 07:19 |
truffles |
i dont want to make instrumental though |
| 07:19 |
truffles |
just remove specific elements |
| 07:20 |
mircea_popescu |
o look, wences' wallet thing was acquired for 50mn. |
| 07:23 |
Gotyawallet |
Sexual: you may have an exchange now http://www.techinasia.com/australias-coinjar-455000-build-bitcoin-wallet-exchange/ |
| 07:23 |
mircea_popescu |
Confirmed total: 10,009 BTC << BitBet over 10k BTC bet. |
| 07:25 |
pigeons |
yay an exchange run by zhoutong, i know where this leads |
| 07:26 |
pigeons |
the chinese relic hunter is still out there with the real killer of OJ's wife |
| 07:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.304 BTC [+] |
| 07:28 |
mircea_popescu |
pigeons it leads exactly nowhere. |
| 07:29 |
pigeons |
I don't think anyone competent would even have any desire to run a USD/AUD/UK/whatever government money <-> BTC exchange |
| 07:29 |
mircea_popescu |
depends how large they were. |
| 07:30 |
Gotyawallet |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCmQcRPtRg |
| 07:30 |
ozbot |
Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock - YouTube |
| 07:30 |
mircea_popescu |
if it's a case of "shut up or we're building our own nuclear subs" then maybe. |
| 07:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02674999 = 0.2407 BTC [-] {2} |
| 07:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/11/how-googles-autocomplete-feature-allegedly-ruined-a-mans-life-and-resulted-in-a-60-million-lawsuit-against-the-govt/ |
| 07:37 |
mircea_popescu |
this is like badbios reloaded. |
| 07:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.00359998 = 0.36 BTC [+] |
| 07:39 |
mircea_popescu |
also proof the internet is for retards and prepubescent children : http://media2.adshuffle.com/images/1053073/c30cb561e1c14890b210284570090c72.jpg |
| 07:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 07:55 |
Gotyawallet |
I knew that autocomplete was going to fuck someone! |
| 07:55 |
Gotyawallet |
I KNEW IT |
| 07:55 |
Gotyawallet |
Do these people not have any common sense when they make shit like this! |
| 07:56 |
mircea_popescu |
but it helps people by making things easier for them! |
| 07:56 |
mircea_popescu |
i've never ever used because i'm nuts, not because it's patently useless. |
| 07:56 |
Gotyawallet |
i dont understand the picture |
| 07:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00088849 = 10.3509 BTC [-] {2} |
| 07:59 |
Gotyawallet |
I hope that lawyer's up and sues everyone involved to poverty. |
| 07:59 |
Gotyawallet |
(man) |
| 08:00 |
Gotyawallet |
and shares for lawsuit dollars please |
| 08:00 |
Gotyawallet |
id rather have $60 mil shares instead of $60 mil usd |
| 08:02 |
dexX7 |
Only problem Kantor says is that after he typed the word “controlled,” Google search allegedly auto-completed his phrase with the word “bomb” << lol what |
| 08:04 |
pigeons |
that happens. the question the article doesnt answer is are his claims of how his life was affected true or not |
| 08:05 |
pigeons |
we can't tell the tin foil nut from the oppressed anymore |
| 08:05 |
Gotyawallet |
bottom line, no probable cause? get the fuck out of our searches. |
| 08:06 |
pigeons |
well i don't have anything to hide so i leave the bathroom door open when i take my dumps |
| 08:07 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda the sign of the end days isn't it. |
| 08:07 |
deadweasel |
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/05/betting-against-bitcoin-bubble/ |
| 08:07 |
ozbot |
How to bet against the bitcoin megabubble - The Term Sheet: Fortune's deals blogTerm Sheet |
| 08:07 |
deadweasel |
MPEx, a stock exchange for companies with shares traded in bitcoins -- there are four of them -- also lists bitcoin options. |
| 08:08 |
mircea_popescu |
so someone please explain benkay` s link to me please. bitbet has a btc/usd bet that has more volume on it than the entire predictious bullshit put together. |
| 08:08 |
deadweasel |
mpex in FORTUNE. |
| 08:08 |
deadweasel |
:) |
| 08:08 |
mircea_popescu |
does tyler durden write about bitbet ? no, does not. |
| 08:08 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck is going on there ? |
| 08:09 |
mircea_popescu |
wasn't this zerohedge thing supposed to be like, NOT verge/gawker/vice/whatever ? |
| 08:09 |
mircea_popescu |
you can't tell the shitholes from the fuckholes anymore i swear. |
| 08:10 |
dexX7 |
oh did they interview you for that line? |
| 08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 hm ? |
| 08:10 |
dexX7 |
did a reporter approach you and asked about mpex? |
| 08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
zerohedge has reporters ?! |
| 08:10 |
mircea_popescu |
omfg how long have i been asleep |
| 08:11 |
pigeons |
i bet a reporter asks mircea_popescu about GLBSE before mpex |
| 08:11 |
mircea_popescu |
pigeons i can just link'em :) |
| 08:12 |
deadweasel |
"MPEx charges 30 bitcoins to open an account, which at Wednesday's closing price was $33,000." |
| 08:12 |
mircea_popescu |
if in the end this comes down to, "some starving fucker in england paid someone @zh $200 for a repvertorial" i'm going to piss all over them. |
| 08:16 |
pankkake |
I'm pretty sure you can easily get published on ZH |
| 08:16 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 o you meant the fortune thing did you. yeah, guy was around here for a coupla days asking questions. |
| 08:16 |
mircea_popescu |
(he asked me via email and i sent him here) |
| 08:16 |
dexX7 |
ah okay |
| 08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
it's all in the logs, which is how it should be imo. |
| 08:17 |
dexX7 |
the article doesn't sound very positive though.. or the reporter is clueless about how things work |
| 08:17 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake well apparently it doesn't work that way. |
| 08:18 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 the logs kinda answer that question for ya. which is how it should be #2 :) |
| 08:18 |
pankkake |
they take from a few blogs already, perhaps submit something trollbaiting enough and it will get published |
| 08:19 |
mircea_popescu |
perhaps it's their fucking job to do their fucking job ? |
| 08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
that was the original point, i thought the theory is that zh is not old media. |
| 08:20 |
mircea_popescu |
so far that theory and practice fail to mesh at all. |
| 08:21 |
pankkake |
well certainly not old media, being contrarian is their raison d'être ! |
| 08:22 |
mircea_popescu |
i fail to see it. that's the most obsequious piece ever. |
| 08:23 |
mircea_popescu |
seriously, promote a disqus based, bullshit black footer site ? |
| 08:23 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd rather promote government cheese. |
| 08:24 |
pankkake |
zh doesn't use disqus |
| 08:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-] |
| 08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the shit they're now promoting does. |
| 08:24 |
mircea_popescu |
complete fucking abdication from any responsibility, it's disgusting. |
| 08:24 |
pankkake |
lol |
| 08:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.299 = 0.598 BTC [-] |
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| 08:41 |
CynicalBasterd |
. |
| 08:49 |
dexX7 |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/10/this-finance-expert-thinks-bitcoin-will-fall-99-percent-by-june/ omg sell sell sell |
| 08:49 |
ozbot |
This finance expert thinks Bitcoin will fall 99 percent by June |
| 08:49 |
pankkake |
see here: http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ |
| 08:50 |
dexX7 |
tl;tr: bitcoin is doomed and the euro is decentralized |
| 08:54 |
Rulother |
99% lol |
| 08:55 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-will-die/ |
| 08:55 |
pankkake |
yes bitcoin is 99% lol |
| 08:55 |
mircea_popescu |
you been away for a coupla days i take it >D |
| 08:55 |
dexX7 |
yeah pankkake already linked me to this article :) |
| 08:55 |
pankkake |
1% speculation |
| 08:55 |
mircea_popescu |
lol okthan! |
| |
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| 09:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/ |
| 09:13 |
ozbot |
U.S. Government Nastygram Shuts Down One-Man Bitcoin Mint | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com |
| 09:14 |
mircea_popescu |
awww. |
| 09:15 |
pigeons |
i thought money was meant and intended to be transmitted |
| 09:15 |
pigeons |
omg you transmitted money |
| 09:15 |
pigeons |
money wants to be transmited |
| 09:16 |
pigeons |
wtf else to do with it |
| 09:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
terrorism bro! |
| 09:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
he can just sell his brand to some european I guess |
| 09:18 |
pigeons |
oh yeah and child porn and drugs |
| 09:18 |
topace |
thestringpuller: correction, i dont run havelock, i run the Havelock Mining Fund (HMF) |
| 09:19 |
mircea_popescu |
so who runs havelock ? |
| 09:19 |
pigeons |
shadowy carribean investors |
| 09:20 |
pigeons |
aka topace ;) |
| 09:20 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao this quest for anonimity. why would anyone trust this thing if nobody actually will step up and say "yeah, it's me" ? |
| 09:20 |
mircea_popescu |
government tried this route already. it fails. |
| 09:21 |
topace |
the panama fund runs havelock (the exchange) |
| 09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
the panama thing isn't running anything. |
| 09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
you gotta have a person. who is the boss ? |
| 09:21 |
topace |
you can call the office and ask |
| 09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i ain't calling no office. they come here and tell me. |
| 09:21 |
mircea_popescu |
if they want to exist, that is. |
| 09:21 |
topace |
heh |
| 09:22 |
mircea_popescu |
wanna bitcoin, gotta play by bitcoin rules. |
| 09:22 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise, go open a hamburger franchise or w/e. |
| 09:22 |
topace |
but i like hamburgers |
| 09:22 |
pigeons |
manager's face is on the door at my burger place |
| 09:23 |
pigeons |
he's not a clown either ;) |
| 09:23 |
mircea_popescu |
pigeons i thought the company ran the joint. |
| 09:23 |
pigeons |
yeah, well somebody's face is there |
| 09:23 |
pigeons |
he has nice teeth |
| 09:24 |
unbalanced |
mp, get out your wallet ... http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nhm/4218208723.html |
| 09:24 |
unbalanced |
What do you get when you have everything? |
| 09:25 |
unbalanced |
;;seen javanomad |
| 09:25 |
gribble |
javanomad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 3 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <javanomad> ;;seen unbalanced |
| 09:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.299 BTC [-] |
| 09:25 |
kakobrekla |
bitbet: Confirmed total: 10,009 BTC |
| 09:25 |
kakobrekla |
congrats. |
| 09:25 |
kakobrekla |
thanks! |
| 09:26 |
unbalanced |
Is that live bets now |
| 09:26 |
unbalanced |
Or lifetime? |
| 09:26 |
kakobrekla |
all of incoming ever |
| 09:26 |
unbalanced |
either way, wow |
| 09:27 |
unbalanced |
When did you launch? January? |
| 09:27 |
kakobrekla |
yea |
| 09:27 |
unbalanced |
Well played, gentlemen. |
| 09:27 |
kakobrekla |
ty :) |
| 09:29 |
unbalanced |
javanomad, since we're missing each other here: got the coffee two days ago and handed it all out in 5 minutes to the others at the coworking space |
| 09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
lol da fuck am i gonna do with a unicorn |
| 09:29 |
unbalanced |
Chicks dig unicorns? |
| 09:29 |
mircea_popescu |
do unicorns dig chicks ? |
| 09:29 |
unbalanced |
javanomad: I was greeted like a conquering hero |
| 09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
pigeons what's with us ppl and teeth anyway |
| 09:30 |
mircea_popescu |
all you hear is how people's teeth are. it's like some weird voodoo shit by now |
| 09:30 |
unbalanced |
But more importantly globe-spanning P2P Bitcoin commerce ftw! They were suddenly way more curious about Bitcoin, it really helps tell the story. |
| 09:31 |
mircea_popescu |
unbalanced good for you. |
| 09:32 |
unbalanced |
Little Bitcoin icon on the package and everything |
| 09:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.jta.org/2013/12/11/news-opinion/world/romanian-state-tv-airs-christmas-carol-about-burning-jews |
| 09:32 |
ozbot |
Romanian state TV airs Christmas carol about burning Jews | Jewish Telegraphic Agency |
| 09:33 |
pigeons |
mircea_popescu: i noticed when i was a child people's "orthodontists" would reccomend the child get braces to pay for a new boat for the "doctor". He told my mom my sister really needed them because otherwise low self esteem could mar her life forever. You notice lots of people with the exact same shaped teeth, its rather boring. It doesn't seem to bother Britons who floss with pocketknifes and forks |
| 09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah i was thinking, what a recipe for disaster this is, get a bunch of very emotionally repressed, sexually insecure protestant type people and lock them up in a can where the usual british problem of "acceptable things to talk about" is resolved by economical interest. |
| 09:34 |
mircea_popescu |
if there's not advertisers to make topics acceptable to discuss among strangers, there'd only be silence. |
| 09:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i suppose us housewives hold tupperware parties just for the shred of human contact. |
| 09:36 |
ThickAsThieves |
you arent far off the mark |
| 09:36 |
mircea_popescu |
scandalous. |
| 09:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
uhh |
| 09:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.usatoday.com/ |
| 09:39 |
ozbot |
USA TODAY: Latest World and US News - USATODAY.com |
| 09:39 |
ThickAsThieves |
look at the logo |
| 09:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00089111 = 11.1389 BTC [+] {5} |
| 09:39 |
dexX7 |
to teh moon |
| 09:39 |
mircea_popescu |
octopussy ? |
| 09:40 |
dexX7 |
looks toxic, in green |
| 09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey. nice. |
| 09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
"Shortly after his panel on investment opportunities, former child star Brock Pierce (The Mighty Ducks) was engulfed by a throng of admirers." |
| 09:40 |
mircea_popescu |
what was this ? |
| 09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
"Brock Pierce is the godfather of virtual currency," says David Johnston, CEO of Engine, and another early adopter of the digital currency. |
| 09:41 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey lol. jesus went out of style as a style. |
| 09:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
"It's like being on the ground floor of the Internet 20 years ago," Smith said. "Bitcoin is going to be transformative." |
| 09:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
from the article from the green bitcoin logo link |
| 09:42 |
pigeons |
wtf |
| 09:42 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's awesome watching the shills take form |
| 09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves dude, he was an advocate since the 90s |
| 09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
way before satoshi's time. |
| 09:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
of course |
| 09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm rooting for the guy who was advocating it in korea. |
| 09:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
I invented digital currency once by mistake |
| 09:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
i just didnt patent it |
| 09:43 |
mircea_popescu |
sue the winklevoss. |
| 09:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
every major article reveals the author/pub's bitcoin ownership status and not much more |
| 09:44 |
thestringpuller |
;;ticker |
| 09:44 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 905.0, Best ask: 908.354, Bid-ask spread: 3.35400, Last trade: 909.0, 24 hour volume: 11088.84685319, 24 hour low: 856.123, 24 hour high: 959.88, 24 hour vwap: 898.69515 |
| 09:44 |
ThickAsThieves |
such a fkn ponzi |
| 09:45 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves it also reveals this funny "we have no understanding of any of the constraints of the space, therefore we don't understand what competence is or why would you want to build on the results of others" |
| 09:45 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty anticultural and obviously self limiting. |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
better to be a unique snowflake and make it up as you go |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
no one's paying attention anyway |
| 09:46 |
mircea_popescu |
outright sterile, actually. the only thing a guy that comes out to claim he's the guy that REALLY invented bitcoin could possibly produce is a ream of arguments with all the other guys claiming they did it even before him. |
| 09:46 |
ThickAsThieves |
other than the advertisers |
| 09:46 |
thestringpuller |
;;google "you are not a unique snowflake" |
| 09:46 |
gribble |
Fight Club (novel) - Wikiquote: <http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fight_Club_(novel)>; Fight Club (1999) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137523/quotes>; you are not a beautiful or unique snowflake - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X2AvfSTi6Q> |
| 09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, they do have the lemon sale, which is actual news. |
| 09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
no idea why they link this nonsense, but w/e. |
| 09:47 |
mircea_popescu |
not like they're zerohedge and people have expectations or anything. |
| 09:47 |
thestringpuller |
zerohedge good? wall street journal bad? |
| 09:48 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly. |
| 09:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
hey remember when everyone wanted to decentralize everything? |
| 09:48 |
mircea_popescu |
financial trade rags bad ; zh latecomer ; claims "we're not gonna be that retarded" ; benefit of doubt ; dissapoint. |
| 09:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
now colored coins devs are back in their closet waiting to be brought out for the next exchange shutdown |
| 09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves the only reason that stopped is because the current crop of fanbois are too intellectually lazy to even take that much of a reading plunge |
| 09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they don't even know that's a thing. |
| 09:49 |
mircea_popescu |
basically it's summed up by george costanza's "a widget for televising opera or whatever" |
| 09:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://medium.com/p/7f95a386692f |
| 09:50 |
pankkake |
well some seem to be in the testing phase, i.e. the moment they realize it sucks |
| 09:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
wtf is up with change outputs anyway |
| 09:51 |
pankkake |
what do you mean? |
| 09:51 |
mircea_popescu |
sounds like a decent obama slogan |
| 09:51 |
mircea_popescu |
"The Outputs of Change" |
| 09:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
well it's silly that a wallet exposes more info than needed for the tx |
| 09:52 |
dexX7 |
ThickAsThieves: there seems to be progress re colored coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3900841#msg3900841 |
| 09:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
will not click |
| 09:52 |
ThickAsThieves |
but thx |
| 09:52 |
dexX7 |
haha k |
| 09:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
gotta stay ignant! |
| 09:53 |
dexX7 |
<ThickAsThieves> well it's silly that a wallet exposes more info than needed for the tx << ? |
| 09:53 |
dexX7 |
that's how bitcoin works |
| 09:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
it spews info? |
| 09:54 |
dexX7 |
you can't take "half of an output, so you don't have any change" |
| 09:54 |
jcpham |
will not click eh |
| 09:54 |
jcpham |
y u no clikc dramatalk link tat |
| 09:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
you can explain it all you like |
| 09:54 |
ThickAsThieves |
but that doesnt mean it cant be designed better |
| 09:55 |
jcpham |
actvemining is still a thing? |
| 09:55 |
pankkake |
you could tweak the whole input selection, and do things like create multiple outputs |
| 09:55 |
pankkake |
but the whole input/output thing is there for a reason, I don't think it can be easily changed |
| 09:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
couldnt someone make a decentralized bitcoin laundering scheme? |
| 09:56 |
pankkake |
well activemining is a thing in a sense that unicorns are still a thing, you can write stories about them |
| 09:56 |
dexX7 |
well, if you want to use multiple inputs and outputs, you can do it |
| 09:57 |
pankkake |
there is CoinJoin and some other thing I always forget the name of |
| 09:58 |
pankkake |
CoinSwap |
| 10:01 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/11/fidelity-now-allows-clients-to-put-bitcoins-in-iras/ |
| 10:01 |
ozbot |
Fidelity now allows clients to put bitcoins in IRAs - The Tell - MarketWatch |
| 10:01 |
thestringpuller |
oh wow |
| 10:02 |
jcpham |
;;baratio --market bitstamp |
| 10:02 |
gribble |
Total bids: 16525252 USD. Total asks: 16205 BTC. Ratio: 1019.73429 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0533 seconds |
| 10:02 |
jcpham |
;;baratio |
| 10:02 |
gribble |
Total bids: 34368303 USD. Total asks: 29979 BTC. Ratio: 1146.38318 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0950 seconds |
| 10:04 |
Duffer1 |
still have to be an accredited investor for that though i believe |
| 10:04 |
thestringpuller |
Whatever happened to that |
| 10:04 |
dexX7 |
speaking of bitcoin and outputs.. https://blockchain.info/tx/f0d9df5e1b0312f9b5a61cd3469083c3f2c8945de4dc648f4218ddbd0a2cdfdc?show_adv=true =D (take a look at the output scripts) |
| 10:04 |
thestringpuller |
thing TradeHill was making |
| 10:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
bitcoin magazine's content profile baffles me http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8812/creativity-as-problem-solving/ |
| 10:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://blog.coinbase.com/post/69775463031/coinbase-raises-25-million-from-andreessen-horowitz |
| 10:06 |
ozbot |
Coinbase Raises $25 Million From Andreessen Horowitz - The Coinbase Blog |
| 10:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Separately, we’re also very pleased to share that Gavin Andresen has joined Coinbase as an advisor. " |
| 10:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
"We are averaging 10,000 new customer sign-ups a day, and are now working with over 16,000 merchants including OkCupid, Khan Academy, and Reddit, who use Coinbase to accept bitcoin. " |
| 10:07 |
pankkake |
dexX7: I'm surprised it got into a block |
| 10:07 |
pankkake |
oh, blame Luke-Jr! |
| 10:07 |
dexX7 |
hahaha |
| 10:07 |
dexX7 |
yep |
| 10:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/10/business/will-bitcoin-replace-paypal/ |
| 10:08 |
ozbot |
Can Bitcoin replace PayPal? - CNN.com |
| 10:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Traders don't want volatility in the currency that they are taking in." |
| 10:09 |
pankkake |
the answser is WRONG QUESTION |
| 10:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah cuz people buy bitcoins hoping they dont go up |
| 10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1sfir9/snoop_dogg_tweets_coinbase_and_bitpay/ |
| 10:13 |
ozbot |
Snoop Dogg tweets Coinbase and Bitpay : Bitcoin |
| 10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
"With my mind on my money and my money on my bitcoins." |
| 10:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
"Brain wallets are not a good way to secure your money." |
| 10:13 |
pankkake |
for a guy who smokes weed probably |
| 10:14 |
thestringpuller |
lol\ |
| 10:14 |
thestringpuller |
loose all your crypto wealth cause you smoked so much you forgot your brain wallet |
| 10:14 |
thestringpuller |
lose* |
| 10:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.05 = 4 BTC |
| 10:18 |
thestringpuller |
!ticker h am1 |
| 10:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.28377771 / 0.29229715 / 0.30493107 (182 shares, 53.19808195 BTC), 7D: 0.28377771 / 0.32705881 / 0.37300000 (1684 shares, 550.76704379 BTC), 30D: 0.23500000 / 0.39790206 / 0.67999999 (7765 shares, 3089.70952185 BTC) |
| 10:18 |
mircea_popescu |
dexX7 is that the kslaughter of the famous activemining ? |
| 10:18 |
dexX7 |
yes |
| 10:18 |
pankkake |
I don't think he has disclosed how much he pays the dev? |
| 10:19 |
Duffer1 |
is he deving that ngccc? |
| 10:19 |
mircea_popescu |
funny. any someone is going to even look at that thing now ? |
| 10:19 |
mircea_popescu |
"use us, we employ scammers! it's great for bitcoin!" |
| 10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
at least coinbase has the sense to rape ex-respectable ppl a la gavin |
| 10:20 |
zacm |
And So It Begins. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/ Fincen shuts down Casascius Coin |
| 10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
zacm was here earlier and on teh grapevine for a coupla weeks yeah |
| 10:21 |
kakobrekla |
sell 1 cas coin for 10 btc |
| 10:21 |
kakobrekla |
oh i forgot ;; |
| 10:21 |
zacm |
wonder what all the people swooning over amazing senate hearings will have to say |
| 10:21 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 10:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;estimate |
| 10:22 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 1040268619.58 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days |
| 10:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
;;bcstats |
| 10:22 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 274513 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1678 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1040268619.58 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.52278 |
| 10:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
:( |
| 10:23 |
pankkake |
http://bitcoindifficulty.com/ "Next difficulty (estimate): 940,372,575 (+4%)" |
| 10:23 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Difficulty: 908,350,862 |
| 10:23 |
pankkake |
I want to believe! |
| 10:23 |
mircea_popescu |
it could easily go either way imo |
| 10:23 |
dexX7 |
hashfast seems to be almost ready to ship |
| 10:24 |
pankkake |
because they did show an empty case at a conference? |
| 10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
get out of here, ready to ship, so it takes a week if they ship today. too late. |
| 10:25 |
Kleeck |
.d |
| 10:25 |
ozbot |
908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 1678 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.5096% in 9d 23h 0m 5s |
| 10:25 |
Kleeck |
Too late for what? Do their machines not ROI? |
| 10:25 |
Kleeck |
(I haven't checked) |
| 10:25 |
pankkake |
too late for the bet |
| 10:25 |
Kleeck |
AH. |
| 10:26 |
Kleeck |
Link? Is it for them to ship before the end of the year? |
| 10:26 |
pankkake |
no the difficulty bet. biggest one, top of homepage :) |
| 10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
Kleeck for the bet, |
| 10:26 |
Kleeck |
I don't really frequent bitbet |
| 10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
we were talking of this 300 btc 1bn diff bet |
| 10:26 |
Kleeck |
oh right |
| 10:26 |
Kleeck |
seen some chatter about it |
| 10:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14811 @ 0.00008 = 1.1849 BTC [-] {6} |
| 10:28 |
Kleeck |
So, we're not thinking it'll pass 1B before EOY? |
| 10:28 |
dexX7 |
http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ |
| 10:28 |
ozbot |
BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 |
| 10:30 |
mircea_popescu |
it may, it may not. |
| 10:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00286631 = 0.2866 BTC [-] {5} |
| 10:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 355 @ 0.002861 = 1.0157 BTC [-] {4} |
| 10:32 |
Kleeck |
A nail biter, for sure. |
| 10:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18318 @ 0.00009788 = 1.793 BTC [+] {8} |
| 10:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.10361425 = 0.7253 BTC [+] {7} |
| 10:42 |
thestringpuller |
;;estimate |
| 10:42 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 1040199420.32 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days |
| 10:42 |
thestringpuller |
the last change estimate keeps going up, but past three days is very slim |
| 10:42 |
thestringpuller |
looks like hash rate is evening |
| 10:42 |
thestringpuller |
;;nethash |
| 10:42 |
gribble |
6400549.04237 |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
thats wrong |
| 10:43 |
thestringpuller |
the hash rate? |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah |
| 10:43 |
thestringpuller |
is there a better source? |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty |
| 10:43 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Difficulty and Hashrate Chart - BitcoinWisdom |
| 10:43 |
ThickAsThieves |
the hashrate there shows for last 504 blocks |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
stimated Next Difficulty:1,149,826,024 (+26.58%) |
| 10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
?! srsly ? |
| 10:44 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves who runs that site, do you know ? |
| 10:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
i dont |
| 10:45 |
ThickAsThieves |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190722.0 |
| 10:45 |
ozbot |
BitcoinWisdom.com - Live Bitcoin/LiteCoin Charts |
| 10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
aha |
| 10:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's still a lil early to have an accurate number, but 338 blocks solved already since diffchange |
| 10:49 |
ThickAsThieves |
not looking good |
| 10:50 |
thestringpuller |
why you say that? |
| 10:50 |
thestringpuller |
"not looking good" |
| 10:50 |
ThickAsThieves |
cuz i bet on No |
| 10:50 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 10:50 |
thestringpuller |
biased are we? |
| 10:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
it's a bet |
| 10:51 |
ThickAsThieves |
of course i'm biased |
| 10:51 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 10:51 |
thestringpuller |
hegemony yoyo |
| 10:51 |
thestringpuller |
Someone needs to IPO Wu-Tang Financia |
| 10:52 |
thestringpuller |
l |
| 10:53 |
mircea_popescu |
talk to wu-tang. |
| 10:55 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves what do you get if you win that one, 200ish ? |
| 10:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
yeah |
| 10:55 |
mircea_popescu |
so like...a house. |
| 10:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
i have an early bet on Yes too |
| 10:56 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 10:56 |
mircea_popescu |
or w/e, a small slice of pizza. |
| 10:56 |
ThickAsThieves |
hehe |
| 10:57 |
thestringpuller |
just ddos a mining pool |
| 10:57 |
thestringpuller |
for a day |
| 10:57 |
thestringpuller |
totally worth it |
| 10:57 |
pankkake |
but how much would that cost? |
| 10:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC |
| 10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
or hire gavin and make him commit a fork |
| 10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
no wait, that wouldn't do anything. |
| 10:58 |
pankkake |
you could bribe friedcat too |
| 10:58 |
mircea_popescu |
har har. |
| 10:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
I'll have to wait like everyone else |
| 10:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
and then when it starts looking like No, some schlub will throw 500btc on it |
| 11:00 |
pankkake |
the Yesses don't stop coming, I don't really get why |
| 11:00 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake gotta make that 7% a week somehow. |
| 11:01 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves i was thinking, if there's a sudden hickup in the hashing there's going to be such a run to cover the world has never seen |
| 11:01 |
pankkake |
7% or -100% with a pretty good change of the latter. that's some shitty gambling odds! |
| 11:01 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake shhh, you don't understand forum investing. |
| 11:02 |
pankkake |
I do, I made a comment to encourage Yes votes! :p |
| 11:02 |
mircea_popescu |
yes on this bet is actually a better "investment" than everything they do over btctalk/reddit/etc. |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
reminds me of a point i made to the board |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
one benefit of being an AM franchise, |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
is not having to buy the hardware |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
however |
| 11:02 |
ThickAsThieves |
you must submit AM shares as collateral |
| 11:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.11289999 BTC [+] |
| 11:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
if they are plummeting in value |
| 11:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
then... |
| 11:03 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
| 11:04 |
jcpham |
double litecoin price rocket inbound |
| 11:04 |
jcpham |
much facedesk |
| 11:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
huh? |
| 11:04 |
pankkake |
ltc on gox? |
| 11:04 |
pankkake |
ltc on china? |
| 11:04 |
pankkake |
ltc on moon? |
| 11:04 |
jcpham |
2 weeks! |
| 11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
ltc on the moon! |
| 11:04 |
mircea_popescu |
aw shit |
| 11:05 |
pankkake |
:D |
| 11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
is because i write gramatically correct uncapitalised irc lines |
| 11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
unlike frenchie here. |
| 11:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
are you trying to turn this into btce trollbox |
| 11:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
or do you have news |
| 11:05 |
pankkake |
it was intentionnal |
| 11:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
fly chikun ! |
| 11:05 |
jcpham |
https://twitter.com/chijs/status/410855263391219712 |
| 11:05 |
ozbot |
Twitter / chijs: BTC China comment implies they'll ... |
| 11:06 |
jcpham |
baseless rumor |
| 11:06 |
jcpham |
accusations |
| 11:06 |
pankkake |
oh… I've seen that one already |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
jcpham so may i suggest reddit ? |
| 11:06 |
jcpham |
yay |
| 11:06 |
mircea_popescu |
that's where newfags dump the stale filler. |
| 11:06 |
pankkake |
> implying is what gox does too |
| 11:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
i thought LTC just mimics BTC now? |
| 11:06 |
jurov |
http://bitbet.us/bet/636/cardano-delivered-before-christmas/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc got no love :( |
| 11:06 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Cardano delivered before Christmas |
| 11:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8881 @ 0.00089524 = 7.9506 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
whats up with the Google Glass bet? |
| 11:07 |
jurov |
noone wants teh cardanos |
| 11:07 |
pankkake |
pretty good for a delivery bet with no preorder |
| 11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov you been pumping it enough ? |
| 11:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
do you need more proof? |
| 11:07 |
jcpham |
mircea_popescu did you get any new rota signs ups or did you successfully frighten everyone away |
| 11:07 |
mircea_popescu |
jcpham according to people i know i'm fucking scary. |
| 11:07 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: NSA should stir some hype, not just me |
| 11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves which one was this ? |
| 11:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
hey wait wht hasnt NSA put 50btc on delivering? |
| 11:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
scams |
| 11:08 |
jcpham |
bleh |
| 11:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://bitbet.us/bet/272/google-glasses-will-be-delivered-before-the-end/ |
| 11:08 |
ozbot |
BitBet - Google Glasses will be delivered before the end of 2013 |
| 11:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
I got my Glass 1 day after I ordered it |
| 11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
a. |
| 11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
well it hasn't actually delivered to customers has it. |
| 11:09 |
jcpham |
google glass is a myth |
| 11:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
I am a customer |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
you got one ? |
| 11:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
yep |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
pics etc ? |
| 11:09 |
ThickAsThieves |
if you require, sure |
| 11:09 |
jcpham |
can i bet now! |
| 11:09 |
mircea_popescu |
well it's not been able to be verified so far. |
| 11:09 |
jcpham |
that's an old bet |
| 11:09 |
jcpham |
wtf i've seen them |
| 11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
jcpham seen != delivered tio customers. |
| 11:10 |
pankkake |
many people blogged about theirs |
| 11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
devs had freebies to play around for a while |
| 11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake link ? |
| 11:10 |
jcpham |
prior to disassociating from the socialnets i knew multiple verified parties |
| 11:10 |
jcpham |
2 for sale in -otc now |
| 11:10 |
pankkake |
http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/06/googles-re-education-camp.html |
| 11:10 |
ozbot |
Errata Security: I survived Google's re-education camp |
| 11:10 |
jurov |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308675.0 no one there gives a fuck, nor on reddit... or do you advertise elsewhere? |
| 11:10 |
ozbot |
[Update] Spec announced for the Cardano, S.NSA's first product |
| 11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
"Google wasn't just going to ship the devices to us bloggers and figure things out for ourselves." |
| 11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
not a customer dude. review copies aren't it. |
| 11:11 |
jcpham |
no that's what they did |
| 11:11 |
jcpham |
they shipped a half finished procut |
| 11:11 |
jcpham |
*product |
| 11:11 |
jcpham |
updates through play store obv |
| 11:12 |
pankkake |
oh, you mean like retail |
| 11:12 |
jcpham |
remember android 1 was a full OS with a lot of apps |
| 11:12 |
jcpham |
android 4 is bare and everything through play |
| 11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov we talking the bet or the product ? |
| 11:13 |
jurov |
about the product |
| 11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
we don't advertise a product that isn't yet orderable, no. |
| 11:13 |
jcpham |
thev'ye changed their "final product" in recent years |
| 11:13 |
mircea_popescu |
this would be part of being fucking sane in the head. |
| 11:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
making pics hold on |
| 11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves did you actually buy the thing ? |
| 11:15 |
jurov |
hm, should have considered it before placing he bet |
| 11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
I ordered mine and they came i 1 day, was also able to order accessories and choose color |
| 11:15 |
ThickAsThieves |
yes |
| 11:15 |
mircea_popescu |
a splendid then. make it good. |
| 11:16 |
jcpham |
it's legit afaik |
| 11:16 |
jcpham |
they delivered the product and opened it up to more than just devs |
| 11:16 |
jcpham |
like he said, colors and accessories |
| 11:17 |
asciilifeform |
'what, stereo vision? i wasn't really using that for anything!' |
| 11:17 |
jcpham |
not a *whole lot* of functionality but they can always update the functionality through play store |
| 11:17 |
jcpham |
play store has your whole device |
| 11:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://imgur.com/20s2neX |
| 11:17 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 11:17 |
ThickAsThieves |
got one more showing more of the packaging |
| 11:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 27110 @ 0.0001107 = 3.0011 BTC [+] {15} |
| 11:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
the shades are removable |
| 11:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
but i still must wear contacts to use em |
| 11:19 |
ThickAsThieves |
which I have barely done yet |
| 11:20 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://imgur.com/eEEbd6I |
| 11:20 |
ozbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
| 11:20 |
pankkake |
I find it weird that they ignored people having glasses already. I mean, that's a lot of nerds |
| 11:21 |
jcpham |
can you watch porn on it or not |
| 11:21 |
ThickAsThieves |
i'll let you know |
| 11:21 |
jcpham |
lololol |
| 11:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
first observation is that having the video on in any way destroys battery life |
| 11:22 |
asciilifeform |
jcpham: you can watch film on the $100 chinese hmd that's been around for years. the point of google's was ostensibly a display with svga res that you could actually read text on |
| 11:22 |
kanzure |
google glass sdk is pretty lame |
| 11:22 |
asciilifeform |
that isn't made by Boeing and doesn't cost $100k |
| 11:22 |
jcpham |
oh text |
| 11:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
i need a bitcoin ticker app |
| 11:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
:) |
| 11:22 |
kanzure |
straight into your eyeball? |
| 11:22 |
ThickAsThieves |
as all seen things |
| 11:23 |
kanzure |
intense |
| 11:23 |
asciilifeform |
still waiting to see how google's hmd stacks up against my 'p4' |
| 11:23 |
asciilifeform |
(http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html) |
| 11:24 |
ThickAsThieves |
the first time you put them on, you realize how embarassing they really are |
| 11:25 |
deadweasel |
i realized that the first time I saw one. |
| 11:25 |
Diablo-D3 |
asciilifeform: OH GOD |
| 11:25 |
Diablo-D3 |
ITS A SCOUTER |
| 11:25 |
mircea_popescu |
well... most people don't have the brainpower that'd allow them to walk and chew at the same time |
| 11:25 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly handling an eyepatch is not for the masses. |
| 11:26 |
asciilifeform |
what's SCOUTER |
| 11:26 |
Diablo-D3 |
VEGITA, WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT HIS POWER LEVEL |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
the original over 9000 device ? |
| 11:27 |
pankkake |
incidentally, S.MPOE is approaching that level |
| 11:27 |
Diablo-D3 |
mircea_popescu: yes |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
!t m s.mpoe |
| 11:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00087288 / 0.00088257 / 0.00089634 (300146 shares, 264.90 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00085397 / 0.00089634 (3403278 shares, 2,906.33 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082916 / 0.00089634 (8091783 shares, 6,709.42 BTC) |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
90 thousand, son. |
| 11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
over 9 times better. |
| 11:39 |
nubbins` |
hi |
| 11:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 100 @ 0.003 = 0.3 BTC [+] |
| 11:44 |
asciilifeform |
damn, never even heard of the '9000' thing before today. clearly i should spend more time reading memes and less maths... |
| 11:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 300 @ 0.00089739 = 0.2692 BTC [+] |
| 11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
or playing very old arcade games |
| 11:48 |
jcpham |
or watching dbz |
| 11:49 |
nubbins` |
or watching three episodes of MST3k at once |
| 11:50 |
nubbins` |
not sure the human brain can handle that sort of abuse tho |
| 11:50 |
nubbins` |
OH HEY! |
| 11:50 |
nubbins` |
heh, you actually gave me a bit of a start then. |
| 11:52 |
deadweasel |
lol |
| 11:58 |
nubbins` |
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/ |
| 11:58 |
ozbot |
U.S. Government Nastygram Shuts Down One-Man Bitcoin Mint | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com |
| 11:58 |
peterL |
is jurov around? |
| 11:59 |
jurov |
yes? |
| 11:59 |
peterL |
just wondering if you planned on lowering the coinBR fees again since the price of bitcoin went up 5x since you set the current fees? |
| 11:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.05 = 1.65 BTC |
| 12:00 |
jurov |
peterL: No |
| 12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2074 @ 0.001 = 2.074 BTC {5} |
| 12:00 |
nubbins` |
my plan is to skulk around until i figure out a way to cajole or barter my way into a free account on coinbr or mpex |
| 12:01 |
nubbins` |
realistically neither will happen, likely because the coinbr fee is so low and the mpex fee is so high :D |
| 12:01 |
jurov |
nubbins`: actually its no biggie |
| 12:01 |
peterL |
oh ok. I must say I really like CoinBR, good job making that run. |
| 12:01 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2100 @ 0.001 = 2.1 BTC {4} |
| 12:01 |
jurov |
just find anyone who has nwmworld's passthroughs from bf |
| 12:02 |
jurov |
convince them to import them to your account |
| 12:02 |
jurov |
and you have free acct until January 1 + 1 free withdrawal |
| 12:02 |
nubbins` |
oh really! |
| 12:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 32104 @ 0.001 = 32.104 BTC {4} |
| 12:03 |
nubbins` |
no rush either way, i can't redeem my s.mg stock warrant until mid-january anyway, and will likely sit on it long past that date |
| 12:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 115 @ 0.001 = 0.115 BTC {2} |
| 12:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3580 @ 0.001 = 3.58 BTC |
| 12:07 |
nubbins` |
suing the government is an interesting thing |
| 12:07 |
nubbins` |
i mean |
| 12:07 |
nubbins` |
it doesn't affect the government, as an entity, at all |
| 12:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC {2} |
| 12:08 |
nubbins` |
given a population P, and a subset C who file a class-action lawsuit against the government |
| 12:09 |
nubbins` |
(whom we'll call G) |
| 12:09 |
nubbins` |
it just funnels money from (P-C) directly to C, because of some activity or lack thereof on the part of G |
| 12:10 |
nubbins` |
doesn't really give G any incentive to not fuck up, does it? |
| 12:11 |
kanzure |
ThickAsThieves: yeah but nobody is able to get a P4 these days |
| 12:11 |
kanzure |
ThickAsThieves: where'd you find one? |
| 12:11 |
pigeons |
i have a a few pentium 4's left if you would like one |
| 12:12 |
the20year |
Sure you can find em |
| 12:12 |
kanzure |
pigeons: not the same |
| 12:12 |
kanzure |
http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/p4_frame.png |
| 12:12 |
nubbins` |
[1:37pm] jcpham: if only i could pay people to blog in dogecoin |
| 12:12 |
nubbins` |
[1:37pm] stqism: much doge, many posts |
| 12:12 |
nubbins` |
[1:37pm] jcpham: such scrypt |
| 12:12 |
nubbins` |
it's... it's taking over |
| 12:13 |
asciilifeform |
kanzure: ebay. some time in '04. |
| 12:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
i have no P4 |
| 12:13 |
pigeons |
what's that diseas you get, is it cauliflower ear from wearing nasty foam headbands like that |
| 12:13 |
nubbins` |
cauliflower ear is from getting hit in the ears too much |
| 12:13 |
nubbins` |
like boxers |
| 12:13 |
nubbins` |
not a disease, just ruptured cartilage |
| 12:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
zitbrow, I think it's called |
| 12:13 |
nubbins` |
lel |
| 12:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9793 @ 0.001 = 9.793 BTC {2} |
| 12:14 |
asciilifeform |
that foam began to rot into dust long ago. |
| 12:14 |
nubbins` |
"check out my cool new red headband! ZITBROW!" |
| 12:14 |
ThickAsThieves |
no pain no gain! |
| 12:14 |
nubbins` |
you can actually see bits of foam all over the table in that picture. |
| 12:15 |
asciilifeform |
the widget itself still works just as it ought to. |
| 12:15 |
asciilifeform |
(even though there are moving parts inside!) |
| 12:15 |
asciilifeform |
it buzzes slightly. vibrating mirror. |
| 12:15 |
mircea_popescu |
what is the coinbr fee these days ? |
| 12:16 |
jurov |
0.019/mo |
| 12:16 |
the20year |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Pentium-4-2-4-GHz-BX80532PE2400DSL6SH-Processor-/171192584737 |
| 12:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 9980 @ 0.001 = 9.98 BTC |
| 12:16 |
ozbot |
Intel Pentium 4 2 4 GHz Bx80532pe2400dsl6sh Processor 0735858153720 | eBay |
| 12:16 |
asciilifeform |
thought about selling it, but who would want it. |
| 12:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<nubbins`> doesn't really give G any incentive to not fuck up, does it? << exactly right. |
| 12:17 |
asciilifeform |
the20year: i think he was asking about the ancient monocle display, rather than pentium 4 |
| 12:17 |
nubbins` |
"you mean we can do what we want and the plebs will bear the brunt of our poor choices? great! let's vote ourselves a pay increase!" |
| 12:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2131 @ 0.001 = 2.131 BTC {4} |
| 12:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17869 @ 0.001 = 17.869 BTC |
| 12:19 |
pigeons |
p4 aka zitbrower |
| 12:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.2940125 = 2.3521 BTC [-] {4} |
| 12:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC |
| 12:22 |
asciilifeform |
pigeons: you will get headache from the monocle long before the foam sticks to your head. |
| 12:22 |
Kleeck |
Guys. I highly recommend this book:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Everything-buying-selling-investing-Bitcoin/dp/1493699474/ref=sr_1_5/278-9187282-6189917?ie=UTF8&qid=1386865168&sr=8-5&keywords=bitcoin+miner |
| 12:22 |
pigeons |
that's sad. i liked the virtual boy i got use out of it before the headaches. and i kind of liked the headaches |
| 12:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.002 = 0.2 BTC [-] |
| 12:23 |
asciilifeform |
pigeons: funnily, the only game console i've ever bought was virtual boy. to tear apart for the optics, when trying to build a binocular version of the p4. |
| 12:23 |
pigeons |
oh neat |
| 12:23 |
Kleeck |
pigeons! I had a VirtualBoy as well! MarioTennis was awesome. |
| 12:23 |
kanzure |
has someone written a usable os for google glass yet? e.g. something to bring up a shell |
| 12:24 |
asciilifeform |
not so neat. turned a perfectly good machine into an envelope full of parts that will never work again... |
| 12:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4003 @ 0.001 = 4.003 BTC {4} |
| 12:24 |
pigeons |
hackcanada who were later accused of being Tom Williams/mybitcoin had virtualboy hacking project that was fun read |
| 12:25 |
asciilifeform |
i thought 'glass' was just a peripheral for the 'android phone' ? |
| 12:25 |
asciilifeform |
you could probably write arbitrary pixels to it easily enough |
| 12:26 |
kanzure |
well it runs linux so people can just flash whatever they want on it i assume |
| 12:26 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 95898 @ 0.001 = 95.898 BTC {2} |
| 12:26 |
kanzure |
android-linux i mean |
| 12:26 |
nubbins` |
i recall seeing a virtual boy set up on a counter in a department store the day i bought super mario 3 |
| 12:26 |
nubbins` |
we were on family vacation, driving through the usa |
| 12:26 |
nubbins` |
and i had to spend two goddamn weeks reading the instruction manual for that game before i could play it |
| 12:26 |
asciilifeform |
glass: 640×360. pitiful. |
| 12:26 |
nubbins` |
pure torture |
| 12:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC |
| 12:27 |
nubbins` |
wait, no, the years are all wrong for that |
| 12:27 |
nubbins` |
maybe it was a game boy. |
| 12:28 |
nubbins` |
anyway, i do recall trying out a virtual boy in a store |
| 12:28 |
nubbins` |
and it made my brain feel weird |
| 12:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17905 @ 0.001 = 17.905 BTC |
| 12:28 |
asciilifeform |
i actually wore a 3d visor for work, some years ago, for a rather long time. you get used to it. |
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| 12:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform if i recall correctly the actual retina resolution one inchfrom the eye is something like 6k x 5k or so ? |
| 12:29 |
asciilifeform |
2d cursor gets annoying though |
| 12:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1023 @ 0.001 = 1.023 BTC {2} |
| 12:29 |
asciilifeform |
about right. |
| 12:29 |
pigeons |
here it is, althought i never understood the mybitcoin accusation other than knowing shane smith of niamianogold http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/zines/k_1ine/K-1ine_34.txt |
| 12:29 |
asciilifeform |
although you have to account for most of the 'pixels' being around the center. |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder which happens first : glass at 6k dpi or neural interfacing |
| 12:30 |
asciilifeform |
6k 'glass' already happened, in the '90s. it just isn't priced for humans. |
| 12:30 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
neural intefacing also already happened in that sense |
| 12:30 |
mircea_popescu |
for that matter, cellphones happened in the 60s |
| 12:31 |
asciilifeform |
afaik state of the art neural is 'brain joystick' for wheelchair |
| 12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
nah |
| 12:31 |
asciilifeform |
and that 100 pixel 'eye' for the blind |
| 12:31 |
nubbins` |
meh, just attach an iphone to a headband. |
| 12:31 |
the20year |
They had 2 meter radio to phone interfaces in the 50s |
| 12:31 |
nubbins` |
super high res, use the back camera to provide a passthru so you can walk while using it |
| 12:32 |
nubbins` |
front camera tracks eye movement |
| 12:32 |
asciilifeform |
the real 'magic' in modern cell phone isn't the miniature handset, but the phased array antennae on the stations. |
| 12:32 |
asciilifeform |
descended from cold war era 'pyramid' radars in the arctic. |
| 12:32 |
mircea_popescu |
this is a point. |
| 12:32 |
the20year |
I don't understand how that's magic |
| 12:33 |
nubbins` |
go read up on antenna theory, then |
| 12:33 |
asciilifeform |
the20year: without phased array, you can't have anything like the subscriber density of today |
| 12:33 |
the20year |
I had to to get my radio license |
| 12:33 |
the20year |
I still don't see how it's magic |
| 12:33 |
asciilifeform |
essentially you 'move' and 'rotate' an antenna without actually moving anything |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year it's one thing to make one connection work |
| 12:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2136 @ 0.00009026 = 0.1928 BTC [-] {4} |
| 12:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 60 @ 0.28397253 = 17.0384 BTC [-] {14} |
| 12:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 180 @ 0.001 = 0.18 BTC |
| 12:33 |
nubbins` |
sorry, i'm just being saucy |
| 12:33 |
mircea_popescu |
it's another to support a city during mother's day |
| 12:33 |
asciilifeform |
trunked rf 'telephone' existed in the '40s even. |
| 12:33 |
the20year |
And my local network still goes down every year during large festivals |
| 12:34 |
asciilifeform |
and slightly later, even in the ussr. but for top bosses only. |
| 12:34 |
asciilifeform |
a few dozen handsets per city. |
| 12:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1304 @ 0.001 = 1.304 BTC {2} |
| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform recall the lolphonograph they had on a ship during ww2 ? |
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| 12:34 |
mircea_popescu |
so churchill and eisenhower could chat ? |
| 12:35 |
asciilifeform |
SIGSALY? department store basement, rather than ship, afaik |
| 12:35 |
asciilifeform |
one time pad on vinyl. |
| 12:35 |
asciilifeform |
vacuum valve (!) modem and CODECs! |
| 12:36 |
the20year |
The earliest one i've seen photos of were the USSR radio/telephone setups |
| 12:36 |
nubbins` |
one time pad on vinyl!! |
| 12:36 |
the20year |
I know though later in the 50s the US had a consumer model, well , sort of consumer |
| 12:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 13 @ 0.04999979 = 0.65 BTC [+] {4} |
| 12:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 11970 @ 0.001 = 11.97 BTC |
| 12:36 |
nubbins` |
imagine scratching that |
| 12:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform "One was installed in a ship and followed General Douglas MacArthur during his South Pacific campaigns. In total during WW2, the system supported about 3,000 high-level telephone conferences." |
| 12:36 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
| 12:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC [+] |
| 12:39 |
asciilifeform |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/PAVE_PAWS_Radar_Clear_AFS_Alaska.jpg |
| 12:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [7C] 92 @ 0.0077 = 0.7084 BTC |
| 12:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC {2} |
| 12:39 |
asciilifeform |
the folks who built these were laid off, and a decade later, popular cell phones. |
| 12:39 |
thestringpuller |
people are actually buying SFI?!?!?!?!? |
| 12:39 |
thestringpuller |
dude |
| 12:39 |
thestringpuller |
that's worse than going bearish on the market |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller all this btc noobs keep buying for fiat has to return to sane hands somehow. |
| 12:40 |
Gotyawallet |
? |
| 12:41 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i imagine quite a bit of it goes to scrapyards, with old hard disks. and to malware artists. |
| 12:42 |
asciilifeform |
encrypted wallet on a winblows machine might as well be plaintext. |
| 12:43 |
asciilifeform |
(artist patches exe so the very next transaction is, instead of X btc to addr Y, 'everything in wallet to addr Z.') |
| 12:43 |
nubbins` |
the best part about leaving windows behind is being able to say "sorry, i don't know anything about that shit" when asked to troubleshoot computer problems for family members |
| 12:44 |
asciilifeform |
can't wait until somebody starts selling 'magic' miners that diddle the system bus to make this happen. |
| 12:45 |
asciilifeform |
how many people buying graphics cards for ltc mining have disassembled the firmware... |
| 12:46 |
the20year |
That sigsaly article is amazing |
| 12:46 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 12:46 |
nubbins` |
i can't wait until the first malicious fake trezors hit the streets. |
| 12:46 |
asciilifeform |
wat's a trezor |
| 12:46 |
nubbins` |
http://www.bitcointrezor.com/ |
| 12:46 |
ozbot |
TREZOR The Bitcoin Safe |
| 12:46 |
nubbins` |
hardware wallet |
| 12:46 |
nubbins` |
that you're supposed to plug into the POS at the store you're visiting |
| 12:46 |
asciilifeform |
"For the love of God, Montrezor!" |
| 12:47 |
nubbins` |
and the store is supposed to just plug it in |
| 12:47 |
asciilifeform |
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/POE/cask.html |
| 12:47 |
ozbot |
The Cask of Amontillado |
| 12:47 |
asciilifeform |
was my first thought |
| 12:47 |
nubbins` |
even though it's a goddamn HID device |
| 12:47 |
nubbins` |
i mean, a goddamn HID |
| 12:48 |
nubbins` |
so essentially it's like plugging a keyboard into the cash register |
| 12:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 369 @ 0.001 = 0.369 BTC |
| 12:48 |
asciilifeform |
phun phact: the barcode readers in many cash registers emulate standard HID keyboard. |
| 12:49 |
nubbins` |
great 'cos no drivers needed |
| 12:49 |
nubbins` |
ungreat 'cos it's a HID. |
| 12:49 |
nubbins` |
go to a store and say "hey, can i just plug this keyboard into your POS and type a bunch of commands in? i'll only be like half an hour" |
| 12:49 |
nubbins` |
see what the manager says |
| 12:49 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform lol that's what i thought too, when i first heard of it. |
| 12:49 |
asciilifeform |
hid isn't even the end of the story. you could probably slurp a bit of key via diff. power analysis if you attach. |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
clearly our reading is inadequate for the needs of contemporaneous english speakers. |
| 12:50 |
asciilifeform |
'didn't your mother teach you not to hook strangers to your DC supply rail?' |
| 12:52 |
nubbins` |
i should design a trezor-looking HID that, when connected, sends "[windows-r], www.mydomain.com/horsedick.avi, [enter]" |
| 12:52 |
nubbins` |
to the host computer |
| 12:52 |
nubbins` |
maybe followed by an [F11] for good measure |
| 12:52 |
nubbins` |
is there a keyboard shortcut for volume? |
| 12:56 |
mircea_popescu |
chocolate dipped figs! yum! |
| 12:56 |
nubbins` |
hm, usatoday.com has a btc logo in their header |
| 12:57 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah we covered it :D |
| 12:58 |
nubbins` |
ah! |
| 12:58 |
nubbins` |
oh and hey |
| 12:58 |
nubbins` |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479 |
| 12:58 |
ozbot |
Added some DoS limits, removed safe mode (0.3.19) |
| 12:58 |
nubbins` |
satoshi's last post |
| 12:58 |
nubbins` |
3 years ago today |
| 13:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 55 @ 0.00290454 = 0.1597 BTC [-] {6} |
| 13:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2810 @ 0.001 = 2.81 BTC |
| 13:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.28015829 = 5.6032 BTC [-] {8} |
| 13:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 119 @ 0.001 = 0.119 BTC |
| 13:04 |
thestringpuller |
IN SATOSHI WE TRUST |
| 13:05 |
thestringpuller |
;;ticker |
| 13:05 |
gribble |
MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 867.59095, Best ask: 875.0, Bid-ask spread: 7.40905, Last trade: 861.25001, 24 hour volume: 12139.28764678, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 941.0, 24 hour vwap: 886.66919 |
| 13:05 |
thestringpuller |
;;market sell 1000000 |
| 13:05 |
gribble |
A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 33179748.9231 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0017 USD, resulting in an average price of 33.1797 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.1238 seconds |
| 13:05 |
thestringpuller |
;;market sell 100000 |
| 13:05 |
gribble |
A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 32207763.4100 USD and would take the last price down to 43.5700 USD, resulting in an average price of 322.0776 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 5.2789 seconds |
| 13:07 |
nubbins` |
any of you guys own any casascius coins? |
| 13:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00285862 = 0.2859 BTC [-] {5} |
| 13:11 |
the20year |
nope |
| 13:11 |
the20year |
i wonder how many fakes there are out there |
| 13:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 4000 @ 0.001 = 4 BTC |
| 13:12 |
deadweasel |
they're fixin' to double in value again. |
| 13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
probably lots |
| 13:12 |
mircea_popescu |
they weren't hard to fake afaik |
| 13:13 |
dexX7 |
i heard that there are some cheap already redeemed casascius coins on ebay |
| 13:13 |
the20year |
no way to tell it hasn't been redeemed before you buy, is there? |
| 13:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC |
| 13:14 |
deadweasel |
if it's not sweet, it's not real. |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
the20year: well there's a security hologram |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
very difficult to reapply once removed |
| 13:14 |
dexX7 |
haha i was just poking nubbins |
| 13:14 |
TomServo |
Pretty sure the hologram was proved to be crackable at Defcon this year |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
dexX7: there's actually a market for reeeemed once |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
*ones |
| 13:14 |
nubbins` |
they fetch around $150 |
| 13:15 |
dexX7 |
:p |
| 13:15 |
nubbins` |
TomServo: they left only minimal signs of tampering |
| 13:15 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC |
| 13:15 |
benkay |
analog bitcoins |
| 13:15 |
benkay |
lel |
| 13:15 |
nubbins` |
what can i say, i'm a sucker for pretty metal |
| 13:16 |
nubbins` |
and also |
| 13:16 |
dexX7 |
http://codinginmysleep.com/casascius-physical-bitcoins-cracked-at-defcon/ |
| 13:16 |
ozbot |
Casascius Physical Bitcoins Cracked at Defcon - Coding In My Sleep - A Bitcoin Blog |
| 13:16 |
nubbins` |
there literally are chocolate bitcoins on ebay |
| 13:16 |
dexX7 |
lol |
| 13:16 |
nubbins` |
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Bitcoin-Chocolate-Gold-Foil-Coins-NO-BTC-VALUE-Casascius-1-Liberty-Coin-Bonus-/281223420095?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417a38d8bf&_uhb=1 |
| 13:16 |
ozbot |
3 Bitcoin Chocolate Gold Foil Coins NO BTC Value Casascius $1 Liberty Coin Bonus | eBay |
| 13:17 |
nubbins` |
actually not a bad gift idea |
| 13:17 |
nubbins` |
heh |
| 13:17 |
the20year |
nice |
| 13:17 |
deadweasel |
holy shit I wasn't kidding |
| 13:18 |
dexX7 |
the video xD |
| 13:20 |
dexX7 |
the line was interesting imho: "If he doesn’t verify or have a way of knowing whether the owner of the bitcoins is the same person he’s sending the coins to, that’s a problem ..." |
| 13:21 |
benkay |
giving bitcoins this way is just the most goddamn stupid idea |
| 13:21 |
benkay |
it's like trading wallets |
| 13:21 |
benkay |
or trying to sell an MPEx account |
| 13:22 |
benkay |
posesser of the keys is posesser of the goods |
| 13:22 |
Bugpowder |
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2428278,00.asp |
| 13:22 |
Bugpowder |
Coinbase got a $25M Series B |
| 13:22 |
benkay |
on the topic of greater fool theory, the fundamental principle underlying these physical coins and the entire fartup circuit |
| 13:22 |
TomServo |
ozbot: what gives? |
| 13:23 |
nubbins` |
dexX7: seems like a roundabout way of laundering. why not just send the raw btc? :P |
| 13:23 |
dexX7 |
because there is no direct link between the coins |
| 13:23 |
dexX7 |
btct for example was an awesome way to launder coins |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder yeah it was here earlier. |
| 13:24 |
Bugpowder |
nice |
| 13:24 |
Bugpowder |
anyone know the valuation? |
| 13:24 |
dexX7 |
same here.. insert coin A, get unrealted coin B out |
| 13:24 |
dexX7 |
(besides the paper and shipping docs) |
| 13:24 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay honestly, it was a reasonably nice way to get people introduced to btc, back in 2011. |
| 13:24 |
benkay |
i suppose, at the cost of perpetuating idiot opsec. |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't think anyone took it for more than that. caldwell was making a few cents here and there with it, but not worth his time |
| 13:25 |
benkay |
had to reprimand someone giving out printed wallets at a local btc event. |
| 13:25 |
Bugpowder |
I like the coins |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
take it as a publicity stunt, like getting a chick with a nice rack and a mean streak to stir the forum pot |
| 13:25 |
Bugpowder |
I have a bunch |
| 13:25 |
benkay |
"are you seriously displaying private keys in public?!" |
| 13:25 |
Bugpowder |
used to tip with them |
| 13:25 |
Bugpowder |
Mike did pretty well |
| 13:25 |
Bugpowder |
he made about 8000BTC I think |
| 13:26 |
benkay |
oh it's great i'm sure for mike and btc and everything except the whole idiots problem. |
| 13:26 |
Bugpowder |
Nice Cayanne turbo |
| 13:26 |
nubbins` |
lel @ mp |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder that's misrepresenting the thing. he'd have made 10 simply selling a pizza. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
8k simply reflects the fact that for most of the coin's life, the metal was worth more than the key. |
| 13:26 |
nubbins` |
ah, i suspect mike kept most of his profits in btc |
| 13:27 |
nubbins` |
minus living expenses, not sure if he held a day job |
| 13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` the guy was a millionaire before btc. |
| 13:27 |
nubbins` |
ah yeah? |
| 13:27 |
Bugpowder |
But he was still making about 10% BTC profit on his sales up till he shut down. |
| 13:28 |
nubbins` |
well in that case he probably kept every satoshi, less minting costs |
| 13:28 |
Bugpowder |
its a lot easier to sell $80M worth of BTC than 80M worth of pizza from your house. |
| 13:28 |
Bugpowder |
His garage does not look like the garage of a millionaire |
| 13:28 |
Bugpowder |
except for the car. |
| 13:29 |
benkay |
a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right? |
| 13:29 |
Bugpowder |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146018.msg1550362#msg1550362 |
| 13:29 |
ozbot |
Most Expensive Thing You Bought With Bitcoin? |
| 13:29 |
Bugpowder |
lol |
| 13:29 |
Bugpowder |
A million goes a long way in utah |
| 13:30 |
thestringpuller |
wait casascius |
| 13:30 |
Bugpowder |
can't even get you a nice condo in LA |
| 13:30 |
thestringpuller |
is gone? |
| 13:30 |
mircea_popescu |
well a real us guy, at any rate. |
| 13:30 |
Bugpowder |
yes they have been gone since Nov 27th |
| 13:30 |
thestringpuller |
what happened to casascius coins? |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
they pulled the rug out. he's in the US. |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
MINTING MONEY |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
they no likey |
| 13:30 |
Bugpowder |
nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news. |
| 13:30 |
thestringpuller |
that's so fucking sad |
| 13:30 |
thestringpuller |
i knew he went to whole sale |
| 13:30 |
deadweasel |
yes |
| 13:30 |
thestringpuller |
but cascius coins are the only "paper wallet" i really trust |
| 13:31 |
thestringpuller |
:( |
| 13:31 |
the20year |
Our average purchase price has been $45k for houses here in Ohio |
| 13:31 |
thestringpuller |
i guess I have a piece of history on my desk |
| 13:31 |
deadweasel |
hold it |
| 13:31 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: wouldn't it be more logical to trust one you've filled personally? |
| 13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
<Bugpowder> nobody paid attention when I posted it to reddit on the 28th. People needed a wired article to make it news. << ridiculous, isn't it. |
| 13:31 |
Bugpowder |
I've got a roll of 50 in a safe deposit box. |
| 13:31 |
Bugpowder |
yah... |
| 13:32 |
deadweasel |
damn |
| 13:32 |
Bugpowder |
Oh well. It's better to know news before others, generally. |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder give us the depost box address too and it's all good eh. |
| 13:32 |
the20year |
now he needs to move to Canada to do it |
| 13:32 |
asciilifeform |
what's the appeal of the cas. coin? |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year if he really wants to do it, south africa is probably a better place. |
| 13:32 |
Bugpowder |
you need the key and my ID yo. |
| 13:32 |
asciilifeform |
forging a hologram isn't exactly building a thermonuke |
| 13:32 |
deadweasel |
you can play with it. rub it on your nipples. |
| 13:32 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: No because I would be that guy who made a typo. Casascius is more competent than I in that regard |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform anal insertion is the only thing that comes to mind. |
| 13:33 |
thestringpuller |
he had double/triple audits when printing private keys |
| 13:33 |
jcpham |
if you use it anally it is no longer uncirculated fwiw |
| 13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder or an executive order. |
| 13:33 |
asciilifeform |
sd card (or rolled up printout) would be gentler on the rectum, i imagine, than a coin. |
| 13:33 |
nubbins` |
is there any actual record of someone purchasing freshly-minted coins from a pool? |
| 13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you're missing the point |
| 13:33 |
jcpham |
i have one of those spycoins |
| 13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
not shoving things up there would be even gentler. |
| 13:33 |
jcpham |
with micrsd |
| 13:33 |
Bugpowder |
hehehe… only with probable cause. The gold confiscation in the 30s is just an internet myth. |
| 13:33 |
pigeons |
fistical dogecoin |
| 13:34 |
jcpham |
http://spy-coins.com/ |
| 13:34 |
ozbot |
Blank |
| 13:34 |
Bugpowder |
happened to one person in the course of a criminal investigation. |
| 13:34 |
nubbins` |
<benkay> a real millionaire would spend it all exhibiting the wealth, right? |
| 13:34 |
Bugpowder |
plenty of gold in that box too |
| 13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder methinks you got the history muddied up on that one. |
| 13:34 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 58183 @ 0.001 = 58.183 BTC |
| 13:34 |
nubbins` |
^ maybe the most lucid display of sarcasm i've seen in weeks |
| 13:34 |
jcpham |
check the radiopacity |
| 13:34 |
Bugpowder |
nubbins`: See example : Goat posting his lambo to 4chan |
| 13:34 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.usmbooks.com/cyanide_capsule.html |
| 13:34 |
ozbot |
Nazi brass cyanide container - SS marked |
| 13:34 |
jcpham |
i saw goat bragging |
| 13:34 |
Bugpowder |
mircea_popescu: look it up. |
| 13:34 |
nubbins` |
hahah |
| 13:35 |
pigeons |
they didnt have to confiscate lots of it cause people brought it in but executive order said they had to |
| 13:35 |
jcpham |
in true goat style |
| 13:35 |
nubbins` |
anyway |
| 13:35 |
nubbins` |
who said they had a roll of cas coins? |
| 13:35 |
Bugpowder |
me |
| 13:35 |
nubbins` |
ah, yes |
| 13:35 |
asciilifeform |
it's very easy - wanna open a bank safe box? there'll be a polizei watching, removing anything shiny and yellow, 'at fair market price.' |
| 13:35 |
nubbins` |
what sort? |
| 13:35 |
Bugpowder |
basically used to keep me from trading them. |
| 13:36 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.leagle.com/decision/193630883F2d225_1237 ? |
| 13:36 |
ozbot |
UEBERSEE FINANZ-KORPORATION, ETC. v. ROSEN | Leagle.com |
| 13:36 |
Bugpowder |
Got the 2013 brass |
| 13:36 |
jcpham |
+1 Bugpowder |
| 13:36 |
nubbins` |
gotcha |
| 13:36 |
nubbins` |
i've got some 0.5 brass |
| 13:37 |
Bugpowder |
thanks for link mircea_popescu |
| 13:37 |
nubbins` |
a few assorted silvers |
| 13:37 |
Bugpowder |
also have some 2011 brass with error |
| 13:37 |
Bugpowder |
a 2011 25 |
| 13:37 |
nubbins` |
yeah, i've got one 2011 error |
| 13:37 |
Bugpowder |
and a 10BTC silver |
| 13:37 |
mircea_popescu |
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=294&invol=240 |
| 13:37 |
ozbot |
FindLaw | Cases and Codes |
| 13:37 |
nubbins` |
almost bought a 25 when they were selling for ~26-27 earlier this year |
| 13:37 |
mircea_popescu |
that one went all the way to http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/240/ |
| 13:37 |
asciilifeform |
'spy-coins' shop would make a spiffy honeypot |
| 13:37 |
pigeons |
i thought he was trolling |
| 13:38 |
asciilifeform |
order the coin/fake bolt/etc. and your address is on The List (TM) |
| 13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
and for more general subjectmatter, http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/294/330/case.html |
| 13:38 |
jcpham |
"the list" |
| 13:38 |
jcpham |
they sell fake bolts |
| 13:38 |
pigeons |
or talk to someone old |
| 13:38 |
jcpham |
i missed that |
| 13:39 |
asciilifeform |
data storage is interesting from the 'what'll the polize do' standpoint |
| 13:39 |
asciilifeform |
are they gonna search the hundreds of 1980s EEPROMs in my junk boxes when i hang? |
| 13:39 |
jcpham |
didn't scroll fr enough |
| 13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yes. |
| 13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
they like that, because they can apply for more salaries. |
| 13:40 |
pigeons |
but eeproms from the 80s will have bitrotted a bit |
| 13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
even more jobs are needed to iterate the alternatives. great news. |
| 13:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 310 @ 0.001 = 0.31 BTC {2} |
| 13:40 |
asciilifeform |
'hiring! one fellow willing to desolder 500 roms from Sybolics Lisp Machine.' |
| 13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
nope. |
| 13:40 |
nubbins` |
500 fellows |
| 13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
500 fellows that went to desoldering school. |
| 13:40 |
nubbins` |
one rom each |
| 13:41 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` ideally they don't do anything to the roms. |
| 13:41 |
nubbins` |
lel |
| 13:41 |
mircea_popescu |
making it a bigger problem whcih is more worthy of attention so more fellows can be hired. |
| 13:41 |
pigeons |
so cynical, eat your cheese |
| 13:41 |
asciilifeform |
wait till they catch someone burning goodies on CD-R and re-shrinkwrapping the sausage. |
| 13:42 |
asciilifeform |
suddenly no office supply warehouse is above suspicion. |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
excellent news comrade. |
| 13:42 |
Bugpowder |
mircea_popescu: My understanding of the law is based on the wikipedia page, which specifically says safety deposit boxes were not searched and seized. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102 |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder you should go visit some prison sometime. |
| 13:42 |
mircea_popescu |
find out the % of people whose residence is based on a wikipedia page. |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
that'll certainly be reddit-news, once you publish the SHOCKING results. |
| 13:43 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as in, the judge read pediwikia to them during sentencing? |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, was a case recently, some lawyer died and his fambly opened a box |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
found a few golden eagles |
| 13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
usg confiscated them. |
| 13:44 |
pigeons |
there was a good espidoe of boondocks the grandpa told the judge, "didnt obama legalize weed?" |
| 13:44 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: link? |
| 13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
eh where was it |
| 13:44 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 237 @ 0.002969 = 0.7037 BTC [+] |
| 13:44 |
benkay |
can't be having those precious metals floating around |
| 13:44 |
asciilifeform |
http://spy-coins.com/radiopacity.html |
| 13:44 |
benkay |
might engender a liquid market |
| 13:44 |
ozbot |
radiopacity |
| 13:44 |
asciilifeform |
at least they're honest. |
| 13:45 |
pigeons |
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/07/rare-double-eagle-coins-should-be-forfeited-to-us-judge/ |
| 13:45 |
pigeons |
i picked fox cause you know, fair and balanced |
| 13:46 |
Bugpowder |
Your hedge fund client is using a retail checking account. Rather than use a business bank account, Madoff’s hedge fund put billions of dollars from thousands of investors into a retail account, and didn’t bother to segregate it with sub-accounts. His accounts “exhibited, on their face, a ‘glaring absence of securities activity.’” |
| 13:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/07/rare-double-eagle-coins-should-be-forfeited-to-us-judge/ |
| 13:46 |
asciilifeform |
re: eagle coins: if i'm found with 'toyota' and no titles, receipts, etc. and a dealership whined about being short of exactly one such... |
| 13:47 |
benkay |
Bugpowder: link plox |
| 13:47 |
pigeons |
anyway you were allowed to keep gold jewelery and special collector coins, of which currently circulating gold coins were not |
| 13:47 |
Bugpowder |
http://qz.com/157108/five-signs-your-client-may-be-running-a-ponzi-scheme/ |
| 13:47 |
ozbot |
Five signs your client may be running a Ponzi scheme – Quartz |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform except this was 80+ yeaers old. |
| 13:47 |
pigeons |
if you fear this is an internet rumor go to the physical archives of a library |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
if i were to confiscate all property with broken title that's 80+ eyars old, i would be able to pay for the us deficit maybe even 3-4 years |
| 13:48 |
Bugpowder |
"What's more, this absence of a paper trail speaks to criminal intent. If whoever took or exchanged the coins thought he was doing no wrong, we would expect to see some sort of documentation reflecting the transaction, especially considering how carefully and methodically the Mint accounted for the '33 Double Eagles." |
| 13:48 |
asciilifeform |
afaik they do this routinely with ww2-plunder art, etc |
| 13:48 |
the20year |
most realestate in the US has proper deed records |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder you probably need an actual lawyer to tell you what a joke that is. |
| 13:48 |
ThickAsThieves |
ha i was just gonna quote that part |
| 13:48 |
pigeons |
the20year: um look again |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year most realtors pretend this is the case, sure. |
| 13:49 |
Bugpowder |
my real estate has a nice deed record |
| 13:49 |
the20year |
And the title companies? |
| 13:49 |
the20year |
that issue million dollar policies on title clouds? |
| 13:49 |
Bugpowder |
Though only 50 years old |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
title companies understand how undisturbed possesion works. |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
as in, any case over a 80yo alleged "theft" is thrown out of court just like that |
| 13:49 |
mircea_popescu |
except of course if prosecuted by the all-corrupt usg. |
| 13:50 |
benkay |
all hail! |
| 13:50 |
benkay |
praises be! |
| 13:50 |
pigeons |
well think of the children |
| 13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder admittedly much easier to do in california and for new developments. |
| 13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
there are houses in this town that are 500+ years old and still inhabited. |
| 13:51 |
Bugpowder |
I'm sure new york is a mess too |
| 13:51 |
Bugpowder |
or boston |
| 13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
absolutely. |
| 13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
or even sf. |
| 13:51 |
Bugpowder |
but why live in those shitholes? |
| 13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
because we don't like modern man. |
| 13:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.002969 = 0.288 BTC [+] |
| 13:51 |
deadweasel |
^ |
| 13:51 |
benkay |
wait how does that work you have to experience so much modern man in those urban areas |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah but at least in the company of 1800s brownstone you can pretend all that grub is just going to go away |
| 13:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
This guy understands there's a fee to move shares to Havelock, but not to move shares out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3936404#msg3936404 |
| 13:53 |
ThickAsThieves |
and he wants to know MY logic |
| 13:54 |
benkay |
man i'm trying to make shit-hitting-the-fan hedges but i think that even small towns that are nominally self-sufficient in this country are so tightly coupled to the rest of the country that they'll devolve into chaos too |
| 13:54 |
benkay |
wat dooooo |
| 13:54 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay go to rhodesia. |
| 13:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00296998 = 0.1455 BTC [+] |
| 13:55 |
BingoBoingo |
benkay: Buy as landfill as it is being capped if you must stay in the US. Keep the fencing and signage though. |
| 13:55 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect i won't have time to get out of the country. |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
depends when you leave. |
| 13:56 |
the20year |
Eh , rural areas should do ok |
| 13:56 |
the20year |
As long as it's a growable season |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
the20year fun fact : other than berlin, the most rapes per german cunt happened in the countryside. |
| 13:57 |
the20year |
My county has enough food during the spring/summer/fall to be well more than self sufficient |
| 13:57 |
the20year |
During ww2 or currently? |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
ww2 certes. |
| 13:57 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: i'm trying to suck as much fiat into btc with overpriced us programmery hours as i can |
| 13:57 |
the20year |
I'm sure a good deal of it was in the stutenland and danzid corridor |
| 13:58 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: i don't have the luxury to let my money make more money |
| 13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
you can only code from inside the us ?! |
| 13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
what's this, porn programming ? |
| 13:58 |
benkay |
the biz network that i leverage for work is in the us |
| 13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
and you talk to them in person ? |
| 13:59 |
benkay |
generally. sales is kinda high-touch it turns out! |
| 13:59 |
asciilifeform |
the hard part, as always, isn't the plane/boat ticket, but the destination. most of south america was wide open to ww2 refugees; few went. |
| 13:59 |
mircea_popescu |
benkay well that sucks. |
| 14:00 |
benkay |
mircea_popescu: how about a robo-crossbow? |
| 14:00 |
benkay |
constructs a 3d model of its environment and self trains to put a bolt through any xyz triple |
| 14:00 |
asciilifeform |
benkay: this one? http://www.atarn.org/chinese/rept_xbow.htm |
| 14:01 |
benkay |
asciilifeform: but on a turret and with some ml |
| 14:02 |
asciilifeform |
no need for fancy and new maths, a consumer digital camera chipset would probably suffice. |
| 14:02 |
asciilifeform |
the ones which highlight faces. |
| 14:02 |
nubbins` |
^ |
| 14:02 |
benkay |
and assume straight line bolt trajectory? |
| 14:02 |
asciilifeform |
for short range, sure |
| 14:02 |
asciilifeform |
'don't click until you see the whites of their eyes.' |
| 14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
we should throw some coins in a jar |
| 14:03 |
mircea_popescu |
to finance a "predict path of bitcoin-assets conversation" computing project |
| 14:05 |
asciilifeform |
use a consumer 'security camera' xyz gimball for the turret. |
| 14:05 |
asciilifeform |
they come with convenient logic-level inputs for steering. |
| 14:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1399 @ 0.001 = 1.399 BTC |
| 14:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.29999052 = 2.0999 BTC [+] {4} |
| 14:11 |
Bugpowder |
Holy 30-yr fixed Jumbo! |
| 14:11 |
Bugpowder |
up to 4.5% |
| 14:11 |
Bugpowder |
locked a few weeks ago at 3.875 |
| 14:12 |
Bugpowder |
that is going to put a damper on the housing buble. |
| 14:13 |
asciilifeform |
know what'll put a real damper on 'housing bubble' ? |
| 14:13 |
asciilifeform |
when the mechanisms used to keep the tens of 1000s of empty foreclosed boxes empty collapse. |
| 14:14 |
Bugpowder |
heheh, I don't care about that market. |
| 14:14 |
asciilifeform |
think from a different angle: |
| 14:14 |
Bugpowder |
just burn down palmdale and start over |
| 14:14 |
asciilifeform |
at some point it will be cheaper to pay a paramilitary squad to defend you than to pay the paper 'owner.' |
| 14:15 |
Bugpowder |
sorry, I think it reality terms. |
| 14:15 |
Bugpowder |
not bug out fantasy terms |
| 14:15 |
asciilifeform |
Bugpowder: reality is sometimes made of paper, sometimes of other materials |
| 14:15 |
asciilifeform |
in the '90s ussr, it transitioned from paper to 'other.' |
| 14:16 |
asciilifeform |
history, rather than fantastics. |
| 14:16 |
Bugpowder |
wait WHAT? Noooooooo http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/12/12/fidelity-halts-bitcoin-investments-from-iras/ |
| 14:16 |
benkay |
daha |
| 14:16 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 14:17 |
benkay |
it was either that or find themselves seriously in the hole ten years from now due to not actually buying the underlying. |
| 14:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+] |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344143.msg3922145#msg3922145 |
| 14:17 |
Bugpowder |
I was surprised by that fidelity thing that it hadn't driven the market up higher…. guess we know why. One person did it and Second Market oversold it. |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
herp |
| 14:17 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin to Cash Hacked |
| 14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
Bugpowder alternatively, second market is persevering in this "we shall ignore the market and expect to matter". |
| 14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
but all's good, one day they eventualyl find irc etc. |
| 14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
or not, i guess. all the same. |
| 14:19 |
Bugpowder |
I hear teppy moved some of his stack |
| 14:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
god that fake dt ipo |
| 14:19 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao./ |
| 14:20 |
asciilifeform |
'This week a cluster of VPS that i have been using... ...has been compromised.' |
| 14:20 |
asciilifeform |
anybody notice how quickly the discussion of 'where the hell do you get entropy on a VPS' began and ended? |
| 14:20 |
Bugpowder |
dude has a lot of coins |
| 14:21 |
Bugpowder |
100k+ |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
the 'mobile phone miner' thing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358242.0) is based on an easy mistake |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
many consumer widgets do indeed come with silicon that computes sha hash |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
just not particularly quickly. |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
(search 'digikey' or your favourite local equivalent for crypto accelerators, you'll find plenty) |
| 14:31 |
asciilifeform |
some costing just a dollar or two. but they won't make you rich. |
| 14:32 |
benkay |
yes but derp |
| 14:32 |
asciilifeform |
derp-powered machinery is mighty indeed. |
| 14:33 |
benkay |
bitcoin runs on derp |
| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
(who wants to build an electron spin-valve machine? don't forget to market it as 'derp.') |
| 14:33 |
benkay |
so quantum |
| 14:33 |
benkay |
much sorcery |
| 14:34 |
asciilifeform |
spin valve exists, used in your disk read head. |
| 14:34 |
benkay |
much engineer |
| 14:34 |
asciilifeform |
but it was hyped as 'cpu of the phootoor!' in the '90s. |
| 14:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6945 @ 0.001 = 6.945 BTC |
| 14:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2000 @ 0.001 = 2 BTC {2} |
| 14:47 |
thestringpuller |
benkay |
| 14:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC |
| 14:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC |
| 14:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1891 @ 0.001 = 1.891 BTC |
| 15:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00284506 = 0.2561 BTC [-] {9} |
| 15:08 |
asciilifeform |
phun phact: 'trezor' machine uses vendor's on-chip TRNG. |
| 15:08 |
asciilifeform |
https://github.com/trezor/rng-test |
| 15:08 |
asciilifeform |
who suspected! |
| 15:09 |
TomServo |
asciilifeform: curious of your thoughts on this: http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.1148v2 |
| 15:09 |
asciilifeform |
"For the love of God, Montrezor!" |
| 15:10 |
TomServo |
(or anyone's) |
| 15:11 |
asciilifeform |
i kept waiting and waiting for the modern internet crackpot community to pick up 'scalar waves!' and 'torsional waves' crap from the '90s |
| 15:11 |
asciilifeform |
this crap never dies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-rays |
| 15:11 |
asciilifeform |
and before 'n-ray', we had http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
or about the same time |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
then the 'copehagen' QM people finally succeed in resurrecting Vitalism and making the crock of shit mandatory for physics students! |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
*copenhagen |
| 15:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 434 @ 0.001 = 0.434 BTC |
| 15:14 |
asciilifeform |
https://github.com/trezor/rng-test/blob/master/dev_random_1.dieharder |
| 15:15 |
asciilifeform |
the leper's bell rings. you can only get results like this if you whiten with PRNG. |
| 15:15 |
asciilifeform |
(or even straight PRNG.) |
| 15:15 |
asciilifeform |
try it yourself. |
| 15:17 |
mircea_popescu |
eheh |
| 15:17 |
BingoBoingo |
The greatest complaint some people have about their fellow man is that they are worthless waterbags interfering with the television signal |
| 15:18 |
thestringpuller |
the trezor only uses PRNG? |
| 15:18 |
asciilifeform |
compare with gold standard: geiger counter. http://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbits/statistical_testing/stattest.html |
| 15:18 |
thestringpuller |
and they call it secure? |
| 15:18 |
thestringpuller |
looks like the cardano will be more secure if used as a wallet than the trezor... |
| 15:18 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: we don't know this as an established fact |
| 15:18 |
asciilifeform |
but the stats suggest it. |
| 15:18 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: using a geiger counter for rng? |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
for anyone who doesn't know, cardano is not a wallet. |
| 15:19 |
thestringpuller |
cardano is for storing any private keys securely |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
not any. cardano's. |
| 15:19 |
thestringpuller |
oh |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
very specific purpose. |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
though i suppose you could write arbitrary files to the slate. |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
with keys, or lolcats, whatever. |
| 15:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5233 @ 0.001 = 5.233 BTC |
| 15:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28100001 = 0.843 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:20 |
asciilifeform |
but these will be readable to the attached machine. |
| 15:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.281 = 0.843 BTC [-] |
| 15:21 |
jurov |
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pesms/trezor_showing_signs_of_life/cd1mo1m |
| 15:21 |
jurov |
slush's take on the prng |
| 15:22 |
asciilifeform |
woah |
| 15:22 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.28001504 = 11.2006 BTC [-] {5} |
| 15:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.2771 = 2.771 BTC [-] |
| 15:23 |
asciilifeform |
'Now the Trezor is fully deterministic device...' |
| 15:24 |
asciilifeform |
presumably this includes the signature nonces? |
| 15:24 |
asciilifeform |
! |
| 15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
their spec is uniquely obscure |
| 15:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2770007 = 0.554 BTC [-] |
| 15:24 |
mircea_popescu |
so nobody really has a clue what includes what and what anything said means. |
| 15:24 |
asciilifeform |
why would anyone buy a cat-in-a-sack wallet machine ? |
| 15:25 |
asciilifeform |
at least with pc you can get pwned for free. |
| 15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
you may not be aware of this, but 90% of the people owning ANY bitcoin actually do not have any idea what it is they own. |
| 15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
it may amount to less than 1% btc in circulation, but still. |
| 15:25 |
thestringpuller |
uh |
| 15:25 |
thestringpuller |
that's like people who download firefox |
| 15:25 |
thestringpuller |
and don't know they can checkout the sourcecode |
| 15:25 |
mircea_popescu |
or chrome. |
| 15:26 |
thestringpuller |
yea |
| 15:26 |
thestringpuller |
people who own mac with OS X can go their whole lives owning the machine and not knowing there is a terminal |
| 15:26 |
asciilifeform |
anybody here get hold of a 'trezor' and pick it apart? |
| 15:27 |
thestringpuller |
i'd buy one just to see that |
| 15:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7914 @ 0.00089976 = 7.1207 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:27 |
thestringpuller |
just like the exploit with the casascius coin at defcon |
| 15:27 |
asciilifeform |
casascius just begs to be pwned |
| 15:27 |
asciilifeform |
holograms aren't magic, people |
| 15:27 |
thestringpuller |
yet that's what most paperwallets use |
| 15:28 |
thestringpuller |
looks like paper wallets are insecure by default? |
| 15:28 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: holograms? i thought most 'paper wallets' are simply strips of paper crammed into 'arse safes' |
| 15:28 |
thestringpuller |
only good as a medium of storage and not exchange |
| 15:29 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: some people will put a hologram over the private key space on paper wallets to "secure" them |
| 15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform not delivered yet afauik |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
a hologram that you buy, right. |
| 15:29 |
thestringpuller |
yea |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
from a warehouse with 10,000 of them. |
| 15:29 |
thestringpuller |
lol |
| 15:29 |
thestringpuller |
soooo secure |
| 15:29 |
thestringpuller |
like a bank :P |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
all quite identical. |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
why not put some 'scotch' tape over it. |
| 15:29 |
asciilifeform |
same effect. |
| 15:30 |
jurov |
i have seen only trezor prototype board, to be delivered in 2 weeks |
| 15:30 |
thestringpuller |
as I said you can likley debase paperwallets if used for exchange |
| 15:30 |
thestringpuller |
but for personal use as a medium of storage you can def bury it in your yard |
| 15:30 |
thestringpuller |
and it's secure in that sense |
| 15:30 |
asciilifeform |
you can also bury a vacuum-sealed sheet of paper. |
| 15:30 |
thestringpuller |
yup |
| 15:31 |
asciilifeform |
no peculiar hardware needed. |
| 15:31 |
thestringpuller |
yup |
| 15:31 |
thestringpuller |
the whole "secure" paper wallet fad is dumb imo |
| 15:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 19999 @ 0.001 = 19.999 BTC {2} |
| 15:31 |
asciilifeform |
required reading for 'seal' aficionados: |
| 15:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SE-14.pdf |
| 15:31 |
thestringpuller |
im on a terminal, what's the abstract? |
| 15:32 |
asciilifeform |
actually, that's the wrong link |
| 15:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SEv2-c14.pdf |
| 15:33 |
asciilifeform |
R. Anderson. 'Security Engineering', 2nd ed; ch. 14: 'security printing and seals.' |
| 15:33 |
asciilifeform |
(short version: seals that one buys from somewhere are of strictly ceremonial value.) |
| 15:35 |
asciilifeform |
more productive line of inquiry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_unclonable_function |
| 15:35 |
asciilifeform |
recall the rifle shell sawed in half from ww2 partizan movies |
| 15:36 |
asciilifeform |
two spies meet, and match up the pieces |
| 15:36 |
asciilifeform |
i believe the ancient greeks used something similar, with a broken clay pot |
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| 15:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00281 = 0.281 BTC [-] {5} |
| 15:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC |
| 15:39 |
asciilifeform |
someone could make good money selling a means of melting a glass rod over a (recessed) screw head and then breaking it. |
| 15:40 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps a miniature induction heater. |
| 15:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC |
| 15:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC |
| 15:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC |
| 15:48 |
dub |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pcWlyUu8U4 |
| 15:48 |
ozbot |
The NSA is Coming to Town - YouTube |
| 15:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5203264/sriracha-shipments-stopped-until-mid-january-by-health-department |
| 15:55 |
ozbot |
Sriracha shipments stopped until mid-January by health department | The Verge |
| 15:55 |
ThickAsThieves |
why the squeeze on sriracha dude? |
| 15:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 217 @ 0.00209792 = 0.4552 BTC [-] {3} |
| 15:56 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 72 @ 0.002 = 0.144 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:56 |
nubbins` |
essential chili ingredient |
| 15:57 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5204724/nyc-testing-lasers-that-detect-when-people-fall-onto-subway-tracks |
| 15:57 |
ozbot |
NYC testing lasers that detect when people fall onto subway tracks | The Verge |
| 15:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27500001 BTC [-] |
| 15:58 |
dub |
fricken lazors |
| 15:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
next version lazers will be lethal |
| 15:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
save everyone the trouble |
| 15:58 |
ThickAsThieves |
EXTERMINATE! |
| 15:58 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: yeah, why bother with cheap and effective solution costing pennies (big red 'stop' buttons on walls, guaranteed jail for false alarms) |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.275002 BTC [+] |
| 15:58 |
asciilifeform |
hell, put then on the track bed. |
| 15:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
our make the tracks bouncey |
| 15:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
problem slved |
| 15:59 |
ThickAsThieves |
lol |
| 16:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
dont newer terminals now have a wall between tracks and waiting area? |
| 16:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
like in airports |
| 16:00 |
ThickAsThieves |
ATL |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
afaik in some countries they have expensive retractable cages between the tracks and the waiting area |
| 16:01 |
dub |
proximity alarms are not new, seems like a reasonable effort |
| 16:01 |
asciilifeform |
why no one simply puts fire alarm-style switches on the track bed wall, is beyond me. |
| 16:02 |
dub |
we know that humans are unlikely to hit the button unless its someone they care about on the tracks |
| 16:02 |
dub |
most wont look up from their ipad |
| 16:02 |
asciilifeform |
no, the victim pushes. |
| 16:02 |
asciilifeform |
twist'n'press knob, same kind found on industrial tools |
| 16:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
what if he cant make it to the knob? |
| 16:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
or he is a child |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
what if he broke his neck falling? tough luck |
| 16:03 |
asciilifeform |
'who do you sue when your parachute doesn't open' |
| 16:03 |
ThickAsThieves |
pressure-sensitive floor |
| 16:04 |
dub |
presumably the lasers are cheaper |
| 16:04 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: ever actually been to a subway station? there's probably a man's weight of dead vermin, garbage, etc. per square meter. |
| 16:04 |
mike_c |
and live vermin. |
| 16:04 |
asciilifeform |
naturally. |
| 16:04 |
ThickAsThieves |
you only put the panels in exposed areas to public, |
| 16:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
with like 25lb |
| 16:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
sensitivity |
| 16:05 |
ThickAsThieves |
sorry, babies and puppies |
| 16:05 |
dub |
because lasers will be orders of magnitude cheaper |
| 16:05 |
asciilifeform |
it is still interesting that most cities have no ready means of going from 'crowd sees a human in the pit' to 'trains stop' |
| 16:06 |
ThickAsThieves |
i still think walls are the answer |
| 16:06 |
asciilifeform |
'if you see a man drowning, and there you are, with a camera, what shutter and aperture settings will you use?' |
| 16:06 |
mike_c |
subway death / subway passengers < car death / car passengers |
| 16:07 |
mike_c |
why waste money? |
| 16:07 |
ThickAsThieves |
well build walls when you byuild the place |
| 16:07 |
asciilifeform |
mike_c: esp. if you subtract the folks who were trying to get run over |
| 16:07 |
mike_c |
and track workers, which is most of the deaths |
| 16:07 |
dub |
they are probably illegals anywy |
| 16:08 |
dub |
need to feed the vermin something |
| 16:08 |
asciilifeform |
afaik, this is less - but still quite - true for traffic death |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
i should dig up my pics from cairo central |
| 16:08 |
ThickAsThieves |
autodriving cars |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
where they had dug the pits about 1.5 meters deep |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
so people couldn't get in |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
and people got in |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
with kids. with packages. |
| 16:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC |
| 16:09 |
mircea_popescu |
becauyse why not, imrite ? |
| 16:09 |
dub |
http://www.dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/00000/6000/400/206401/206401.strip.gif |
| 16:09 |
dub |
I'm sure the artist has worked here |
| 16:10 |
asciilifeform |
metro in many places rolls in recessed pits on stations |
| 16:10 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5204002/gmail-will-soon-display-images-in-email-by-default |
| 16:10 |
ozbot |
Gmail will soon display images in your email by default | The Verge |
| 16:10 |
asciilifeform |
what's special about pits |
| 16:11 |
ThickAsThieves |
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/12/5201706/bitcoin-foundation-opens-london-office-announces-australia-and-canada-chapters |
| 16:11 |
ozbot |
Bitcoin Foundation opens London office, announces Australia and Canada chapters | The Verge |
| 16:12 |
asciilifeform |
is 'casascius' an organ of 'the foundation'? if not, why does every media turd about bitcoin feature a photo of the coins? |
| 16:12 |
mike_c |
wow the gmail images. that's kind of cool, and will break all email tracking beacons. |
| 16:13 |
ThickAsThieves |
or comply with allowed ones |
| 16:13 |
mike_c |
well, theirs will still work of course. google analytics for email is the only working solution. |
| 16:15 |
nubbins` |
subways in seoul had mirrors across the pit, on the incoming side of all the tunnels |
| 16:15 |
nubbins` |
idea being that the train is fastest at that point, making it a favored jump spot |
| 16:15 |
nubbins` |
mirrors would cause some to second-guess |
| 16:15 |
nubbins` |
they were starting to roll out the suicide doors city-wide when i was there tho |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
or simply build separate stations where jumping is officially permitted. hose them down daily. |
| 16:17 |
mike_c |
plus the rats would congregate there, leaving the rest cleaner |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
tv cameras on the wall. |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
my favourite fictional scenario of 'official suicide' is in brunner's 'stand on zanzibar' |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
where you could pay to be publicly guillotined, burned at the stake, etc. |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
'attention whores' lined up. |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
pay ?! |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
the executioner should pay. |
| 16:22 |
asciilifeform |
pay. story was about a world crammed brimful of humans, mostly unworthy of even a public execution. |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
you get free service. |
| 16:23 |
asciilifeform |
and where smart people sabotaged infrastructure from mere boredom. |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.bitcointrezor.com/news/celebrate-day-of-bitcoin-trezor |
| 16:24 |
ozbot |
TREZOR The Bitcoin Safe - news |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
'small and durable with no battery' |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
'never sends private keys to the computer' |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
except when it runs... |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
nobody ever heard of diff. power analysis? |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
'fully auditable software.' -- where? |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
For the love of God, Montrezor! |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
anybody else making 'wallet machines' ? |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
or just these jokers |
| 16:28 |
asciilifeform |
https://github.com/trezor contains no source for the embedded micro, as far as i can see. |
| 16:28 |
jurov |
NSA published anything to github yet? |
| 16:29 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: will publish, with excruciatingly pedantic detail - when widget is sold. |
| 16:29 |
asciilifeform |
why would you even care to read it now |
| 16:30 |
asciilifeform |
how do the 'trezor' folks even get away with shipping the damn thing internationally without publishing source? |
| 16:30 |
jurov |
trezor isn't sold yet either |
| 16:30 |
asciilifeform |
afaik nobody cancelled the ancient law forbidding crypto export |
| 16:30 |
jurov |
ask slush |
| 16:30 |
dub |
probably fairly easy to ensure they dont |
| 16:30 |
asciilifeform |
but there's a bush-era loophole for published source |
| 16:31 |
dub |
anon call to whatever us customers gestapo is relevant |
| 16:31 |
dub |
customs* (kill me) |
| 16:31 |
asciilifeform |
wait, maybe trezor isn't u.s. based |
| 16:31 |
nubbins` |
it's not |
| 16:31 |
asciilifeform |
Czech. ok |
| 16:31 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: as i wrote several times here, it's made by slush & stick, czechoslovak dudes |
| 16:32 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 16:32 |
asciilifeform |
i'd be surprised if there are no weird crypto laws there |
| 16:32 |
mircea_popescu |
well since it uses github... it arguably is eh |
| 16:32 |
asciilifeform |
wassenar convention, etc |
| 16:32 |
jurov |
and i'll forward this log to them with delight |
| 16:33 |
jurov |
i'm actually surprised you found out only now |
| 16:33 |
jurov |
about whole project |
| 16:33 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: i'm quite 'out of date' re: 'happenings in bitcoin universe' |
| 16:34 |
asciilifeform |
given that i don't, for the most part, live there |
| 16:34 |
dub |
http://i.woofmaker.com/-PhaOjbPRK7R_ovD.gif |
| 16:35 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: if you know these fellows in person, do ask them why no source. |
| 16:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1924 @ 0.001 = 1.924 BTC {2} |
| 16:35 |
jurov |
iirc it will be released when it's done |
| 16:35 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/jya/czech-crypto.htm |
| 16:35 |
asciilifeform |
a bit old |
| 16:36 |
asciilifeform |
when was 'trezor' 1st announced? |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
at least in summer if not sooner |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
ah |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
interesting how they toured conventions, etc. for ages with no widget. |
| 16:37 |
jurov |
prolly they don't have mircea to show the The Right Way |
| 16:38 |
jurov |
*them |
| 16:38 |
asciilifeform |
i grew up reading about inventors, hucksters, etc. and i always thought it was obvious that you need a prototype to really wake people up |
| 16:38 |
thestringpuller |
unless the prototype blows up and kills everyone |
| 16:38 |
jurov |
they needed funding |
| 16:39 |
thestringpuller |
doesn't anyone remember dr. octavius? |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
how much funding does one need to build a few keychain-sized boards |
| 16:39 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: what about asic prototypes? |
| 16:39 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 202 @ 0.001 = 0.202 BTC |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
these aren't mining asics |
| 16:39 |
jurov |
idk... as i wrote, ask slush |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
where you need $10M just to play |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
per tape-out. |
| 16:39 |
thestringpuller |
i guess you can always just do FPGA |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
'trezor' appears to use a cheapo consumer ARM |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
$5 or so in quantity, afaik |
| 16:40 |
jurov |
they sold preorders for 1 and 3 BTC each, end price is supposed to be $100 |
| 16:40 |
jurov |
it has a display, too |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/579620_213467352125160_890578977_n.png |
| 16:40 |
assbot |
123! |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
fairly straightforward 2-layer pcb |
| 16:41 |
jurov |
so what. do undercut them if you want |
| 16:41 |
asciilifeform |
looks like there are exactly three active components in there |
| 16:41 |
asciilifeform |
not counting display. |
| 16:41 |
asciilifeform |
the arm and two vregs. |
| 16:42 |
asciilifeform |
let the chinese undercut. |
| 16:42 |
asciilifeform |
imho the concept is brain-damaged. |
| 16:42 |
asciilifeform |
at least, as pictured. |
| 16:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.025 = 0.175 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:44 |
asciilifeform |
betcha the thing can be re-flashed via usb, too. |
| 16:45 |
asciilifeform |
(i see no pads for ROMs, jumpers, or other protection mechanisms in that photo.) |
| 16:45 |
jurov |
it's supposed to check the image signature before flashing |
| 16:45 |
asciilifeform |
'it' being? |
| 16:45 |
dub |
http://www.nknews.org/kcna-watch/kcna-article/?0038638e |
| 16:46 |
jurov |
dunno really, just what i remembered from their talk |
| 16:46 |
dub |
worth a read, hilariouis |
| 16:46 |
dub |
However, despicable human scum Jang, who was worse than a dog, perpetrated thrice-cursed acts of treachery in betrayal of such profound trust and warmest paternal love shown by the party and the leader for him. |
| 16:46 |
mircea_popescu |
<jurov> they needed funding << right way eh. |
| 16:47 |
nubbins` |
However, despicable human scum Jang, who was worse than a dog, perpetrated thrice-cursed acts of treachery |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
this sounds like chinese/korean reeducation stuff |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
o nm. it is. |
| 16:48 |
asciilifeform |
these folks need to hire a translator. |
| 16:48 |
nubbins` |
recall some time ago i was explaining that being the son of a dog was a grave insult, then they just start throwing numbers in front of it? |
| 16:48 |
nubbins` |
"ten times son of a dog!" etc |
| 16:48 |
asciilifeform |
read the edicts of Ivan IV, etc |
| 16:48 |
nubbins` |
thrice-cursed acts! |
| 16:48 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 110 @ 0.001 = 0.11 BTC |
| 16:48 |
mircea_popescu |
son of over nine thousand pig impregnated bitches |
| 16:48 |
asciilifeform |
distinctly medieval style |
| 16:48 |
nubbins` |
srsly, people will read "thrice-cursed" and gasp 3x as hard |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
or a document like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` the byzantines invented inflation, for all practical purposes |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they didn't stop with the currency. |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
as if imperial rome hadn't debased coins |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
there's a slight difference between rape and murder. |
| 16:50 |
dub |
mpoe-pr could have penned this, its great |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
| 16:51 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC |
| 16:52 |
nubbins` |
"we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother." |
| 16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
that part is so very romanian. |
| 16:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 750 @ 0.001 = 0.75 BTC |
| 16:53 |
asciilifeform |
i've always thought of 'FYM' as a slavic thing. |
| 16:54 |
mircea_popescu |
romanian influence in slavic culture :D |
| 16:55 |
asciilifeform |
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/529570_217373745067854_1151791403_n.jpg and particularly, https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399919_248300785308483_2018068197_n.jpg |
| 16:55 |
asciilifeform |
just the arm. |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.google.com/search?q=site:trilema.com+%22pe+ma-ta%22&complete=0 |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
check out how many times the "your mother" accusatuive is preceded by a fut form, and how many times by anything else. |
| 16:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.00281001 = 0.1068 BTC [-] |
| 16:58 |
asciilifeform |
so let's 'sherlock holmes,' and http://www.st.com/web/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1575/LN1433/PF245091 |
| 16:59 |
mike_c |
it would be awesome if you published a trezor hack with the cardano release. |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c is such a shark :D |
| 16:59 |
asciilifeform |
difficult, lacking a trezor |
| 16:59 |
mike_c |
excuses |
| 17:01 |
asciilifeform |
p. 22. sec. 3.13: boot modes. |
| 17:02 |
asciilifeform |
'At startup, boot pins are used to select one out of three boot options: * Boot from user Flash * Boot from system memory * Boot from embedded SRAM' |
| 17:02 |
Namworld |
urgh... people are buying SFI on havelock? |
| 17:02 |
asciilifeform |
'The boot loader is located in system memory. It is used to reprogram the Flash memory by |
| 17:02 |
asciilifeform |
using USART1 (PA9/PA10), USART3 (PC10/PC11 or PB10/PB11), CAN2 (PB5/PB13), USB |
| 17:02 |
asciilifeform |
OTG FS in Device mode (PA11/PA12) through DFU (device firmware upgrade).' |
| 17:03 |
asciilifeform |
if they set this up correctly: widget will be hard-wired to boot from 'boot rom' section of FW, which receives upgrade and calculates checksum and rsa sig. |
| 17:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 650 @ 0.001 = 0.65 BTC {2} |
| 17:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00089739 = 8.3457 BTC [-] |
| 17:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1221 @ 0.001 = 1.221 BTC |
| |
~ 21 minutes ~ |
| 17:30 |
thestringpuller |
I keep hearing footsteps baby, in the dark |
| 17:35 |
thestringpuller |
;;google between the sheets |
| 17:35 |
gribble |
Isley Brothers - Between The Sheets - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glhdcJ7K3XM>; Between the Sheets: <http://www.betweenthesheetsinc.com/>; Between the Sheets (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Between_the_Sheets_(song)> |
| 17:35 |
thestringpuller |
^- for you mr. mircea_popescu |
| 17:40 |
jurov |
!t m s.mpoe |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00088706 / 0.00089102 / 0.00090149 (138332 shares, 123.26 BTC), 7D: 0.00078101 / 0.00085548 / 0.00090149 (3357353 shares, 2,872.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082947 / 0.00090149 (8018791 shares, 6,651.36 BTC) |
| 17:40 |
jurov |
!t m s.bbet |
| 17:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0006 / 0.0006 / 0.0006 (666 shares, 0.40 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066638 / 0.00075 (47246 shares, 31.48 BTC) |
| 17:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC |
| 17:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 971 @ 0.00089739 = 0.8714 BTC [-] |
| 17:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00297997 = 0.1043 BTC [+] |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 5000 @ 0.0005001 = 2.5005 BTC [+] {5} |
| 17:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 198 @ 0.001 = 0.198 BTC |
| 17:58 |
dub |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lVuhKCYtr4#t=1h04m30s |
| 17:58 |
ozbot |
Pete Rock -- PeteStrumentals (10th Anniversary Edition) CD1 - YouTube |
| 17:58 |
dub |
freddy foxx is the shit |
| 17:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.001 = 3 BTC |
| 18:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1362 @ 0.0005002 = 0.6813 BTC [+] |
| 18:02 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 258 @ 0.00280603 = 0.724 BTC [-] {5} |
| 18:07 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.05 = 2.5 BTC |
| 18:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC |
| 18:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05 = 0.3 BTC |
| 18:18 |
jurov |
i'm falling in love with electrum, mostly its tinker-friendly python console |
| 18:18 |
javanomad |
;;seen unbalanced |
| 18:18 |
gribble |
unbalanced was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 46 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <unbalanced> Little Bitcoin icon on the package and everything |
| 18:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 45 @ 0.0023 = 0.1035 BTC [+] |
| 18:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC |
| 18:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.26551429 = 7.4344 BTC [-] {9} |
| 18:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.2614 = 7.842 BTC [-] |
| 18:26 |
javanomad |
;;later tell unbalanced Thanks for letting me know the coffee made it! Many thanks. |
| 18:26 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov the client ? |
| 18:30 |
jurov |
yea |
| 18:30 |
Apocalyptic |
jurov, sounds interesting, i fell in love with python already heh |
| 18:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.05 = 10 BTC |
| 18:32 |
jurov |
only bad thing is, if you don't have own electrum server (with its own hefty blockchain index) |
| 18:33 |
jurov |
then it lets your addresses known to the public el nodes |
| 18:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6300 @ 0.001 = 6.3 BTC {2} |
| 18:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC |
| 18:34 |
benkay |
ya well one should have ones own copy of the blockchain let's be real here |
| 18:34 |
mircea_popescu |
ouch |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
a well i guess it has no other way to do it if you have no blockchain |
| 18:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2405 @ 0.00050998 = 1.2265 BTC [+] {7} |
| 18:37 |
jurov |
could be interesting to find out crypto protocol for blind tx filtering.. if that can bbe done at all |
| 18:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i dont see how |
| 18:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2500 @ 0.001 = 2.5 BTC |
| 18:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.14799999 = 0.592 BTC [+] {2} |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.001 = 0.5 BTC |
| 18:57 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00297998 = 0.2891 BTC [-] |
| 18:58 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0028514 = 0.2851 BTC [-] {5} |
| 19:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00090308 = 2.348 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 19:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00090593 = 4.3032 BTC [+] |
| 19:20 |
benkay |
it's over 9000! |
| |
~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 19:38 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 17454 @ 0.001 = 17.454 BTC {2} |
| 19:38 |
thestringpuller |
;;estimate |
| 19:38 |
gribble |
Next difficulty estimate | 1037354862.97 based on data since last change | 894132728.373 based on data for last three days |
| 19:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00090604 = 4.2584 BTC [+] {2} |
| 19:42 |
truffles |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWCPUC_ijQ |
| 19:42 |
ozbot |
Damien Rice & Melanie Laurent - Everything You're Not Supposed To Be - YouTube |
| 19:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [+] |
| 19:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [7C] 28 @ 0.0099 = 0.2772 BTC [+] |
| 20:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 15186 @ 0.001 = 15.186 BTC |
| 20:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28499997 BTC [+] |
| 20:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 149 @ 0.001 = 0.149 BTC |
| 20:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] |
| 20:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.265 BTC [-] |
| 20:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00090739 = 6.2156 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:31 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 8 @ 0.119375 = 0.955 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00090798 = 11.4405 BTC [+] {2} |
| 20:37 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.10255 = 0.2051 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10890 @ 0.00090698 = 9.877 BTC [-] {2} |
| 20:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 497 @ 0.001 = 0.497 BTC |
| 20:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16172 @ 0.00090866 = 14.6948 BTC [+] {2} |
| 21:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00090377 = 2.7348 BTC [-] |
| 21:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4874 @ 0.00090377 = 4.405 BTC [-] {3} |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 21:29 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC |
| 21:32 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
stringpuller you around |
| 21:32 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.00297997 = 0.7182 BTC [+] |
| 21:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 900 @ 0.00090289 = 0.8126 BTC [-] |
| 21:39 |
Duffer1 |
http://www.gog.com/promo/fallout_series_giveaway_winter_promo_2013 |
| 21:39 |
ozbot |
GOG.com |
| 21:39 |
Duffer1 |
^ free fallout 1, 2, & Tactics |
| 21:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8942 @ 0.00090229 = 8.0683 BTC [-] |
| 21:45 |
jborkl |
So seedcoin is going to fund MEXBIt. They are going to funnel bitcoin between the us and mexico as the business plan. |
| 21:46 |
jborkl |
Fucking genius :( |
| 21:47 |
nubbins` |
i don't get it |
| 21:47 |
nubbins` |
they're going to print out private keys and smuggle them over the border? |
| 21:47 |
jborkl |
Well, as someone who lives close to mexico. They would end up dead very shortly |
| 21:48 |
jborkl |
I guess they think there is a shortage of ways to get $ into mexico |
| 21:49 |
nubbins` |
i'm just not sure in what other context it would make sense to have a service that moves btc from one country to another |
| 21:49 |
nubbins` |
do they even internet? |
| 21:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00090229 = 3.2482 BTC [-] |
| 21:49 |
jborkl |
Lol, not so much |
| 21:49 |
mike_c |
i can't tell if their webpage is broken or just really bad |
| 21:49 |
nubbins` |
it can be two things |
| 21:51 |
jborkl |
Maybe kidnappings can be paid in btc |
| 21:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00090229 = 3.8347 BTC [-] |
| 21:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 374 @ 0.00149824 = 0.5603 BTC [-] {10} |
| 22:00 |
nubbins` |
anyone here own a 3d printer? |
| 22:01 |
mikaeldice |
I have access to one |
| 22:02 |
mikaeldice |
My workplace bought one for us to play with |
| 22:02 |
mikaeldice |
The makerbot |
| 22:03 |
mikaeldice |
I'm trying to think of a way to prove that a wallet is on a specific machine |
| 22:03 |
mikaeldice |
There's an ip address encoded into a transaction, right? Maybe I can have the machine sign a message or something |
| 22:04 |
nubbins` |
eh... |
| 22:04 |
pigeons |
no no ip address |
| 22:04 |
nubbins` |
you could have a thousand machines sharing an ip |
| 22:04 |
mikaeldice |
hmm.. |
| 22:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.001 = 0.12 BTC |
| 22:04 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 623 @ 0.00051 = 0.3177 BTC [+] |
| 22:05 |
mikaeldice |
I want to make a bet on the strength of the security software being used on the computer, that given the root password and an unencrypted wallet, that still nobody could steal the wallet |
| 22:05 |
nubbins` |
well, when you say a specific machine |
| 22:05 |
truffles |
bitcoin hunter |
| 22:05 |
nubbins` |
how are you planning to identify the machine? |
| 22:05 |
nubbins` |
by the os install? the hard drive? the mobo? etc |
| 22:05 |
nubbins` |
all can fail and be replaced |
| 22:05 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 |
| 22:05 |
ozbot |
Loper OS » Dukedom for Sale. |
| 22:07 |
mikaeldice |
hostname/IP.. I'd probably use linux on EC2, then have the machine run a little program that interfaces with bitcoind and gives out the password whenever someone gives it a bitcoin |
| 22:07 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
EC2 is great |
| 22:07 |
KRS|Gotchawallet |
you can probably get it for free even |
| 22:07 |
mikaeldice |
Then they can login and try breaking past the rest of the security. Or they can skip the fee and break it without root's password |
| 22:08 |
mikaeldice |
But I need a provable way to show that the wallet is on that machine that they're given access to, or people will yell scam |
| 22:09 |
mikaeldice |
Each time someone buys the root login, the bitcoin would be added to the wallet for a total pot.. I'd keep it after a month if nobody could break the security |
| 22:09 |
mikaeldice |
Or maybe I'd just let it ride forever |
| 22:10 |
truffles |
which ppl will yell scam |
| 22:10 |
mikaeldice |
People who can't get the wallet, people who think that giving away root access is too permissive and that it's impossible to block root |
| 22:11 |
mikaeldice |
Maybe I'd throw something up on bitbet too.. that would be fun to watch |
| 22:11 |
mike_c |
you know, i tried urbit and asked for destroyers. never got an answer. |
| 22:11 |
truffles |
cant tell if ure trying to fix or exploit :D |
| 22:12 |
mikaeldice |
lol, truffles. It'd be a test of sorts, to prove the security software out. If it can hold up to an open invitation to the bitcoin community to try to break it, then I'd say it's relatively secure |
| 22:15 |
Apocalyptic |
mikaeldice, would the wallet be encrypted ? |
| 22:15 |
mikaeldice |
Nope |
| 22:15 |
Apocalyptic |
that's a good starting point, otherwise it doesn't make sense |
| 22:16 |
Apocalyptic |
so you provide us with root access to a machine containing a wallet.dat file with the actual (pubkey,privkey) to an address holding coins |
| 22:16 |
mikaeldice |
Unencrypted, open SSH port, and optionally pay for a valid root login. The payment gets added to the same wallet hosted on the server |
| 22:17 |
mikaeldice |
But I need a way to prove that the wallet is there |
| 22:17 |
Apocalyptic |
any hardware firewall ? |
| 22:18 |
mikaeldice |
EC2's security groupings on ports other than 80 and 22 |
| 22:18 |
Apocalyptic |
software firewall ? |
| 22:18 |
mikaeldice |
Nah, I could disable iptables |
| 22:18 |
Apocalyptic |
ok |
| 22:18 |
mikaeldice |
I'd even make a little webapp that interacts with bitcoind so there's another vector for attack |
| 22:19 |
Apocalyptic |
"try breaking past the rest of the security" // i guess figuring this out is a part of the challenge |
| 22:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6958 @ 0.00090229 = 6.2781 BTC [-] |
| 22:20 |
mikaeldice |
Yep, but I'll give you a hint, it involves kernel level protection |
| 22:20 |
Apocalyptic |
yum |
| 22:20 |
Apocalyptic |
so you built a custom kernel ? |
| 22:20 |
kakobrekla |
something unhackable this week does not mean unhackable |
| 22:20 |
Apocalyptic |
indeed kako |
| 22:21 |
mikaeldice |
Nope, it'll use a standard linux kernel.. probably a major service pack version of either centos or ubuntu |
| 22:22 |
mikaeldice |
kakobrekla, I'd leave it up for a month or so, maybe longer. A minimum of a month |
| 22:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00089889 = 9.2136 BTC [-] |
| 22:22 |
Apocalyptic |
cause if you disable file access by inode to this wallet.dat file on the kernel level, there's no much we can or anyone do |
| 22:22 |
mikaeldice |
There will be conditional access allowed, or the webapp won't work |
| 22:22 |
Apocalyptic |
obviously |
| 22:23 |
mikaeldice |
But yeah, it would be kernel level protection of that sort, Apocalyptic |
| 22:23 |
Apocalyptic |
you will have a couple of challengers then :) |
| 22:23 |
Apocalyptic |
btc initial pot ? |
| 22:24 |
mikaeldice |
I'm not sure.. probably 1 BTC to start with, plus whatever challengers throw in |
| 22:25 |
kakobrekla |
you need liek 100 btc to get any srs traction |
| 22:26 |
nubbins` |
or offer like 1000 free tries |
| 22:26 |
Apocalyptic |
what about to say it's kinda low to be worth serious people's time |
| 22:26 |
mikaeldice |
I don't have that to throw around. But I could probably start a bitbet for spectators who don't have access. |
| 22:26 |
mikaeldice |
Well, there are unlimited free tries if you want to break SSH login as well |
| 22:26 |
mikaeldice |
or break the webapp |
| 22:26 |
Apocalyptic |
but 100 is maybe a bit much |
| 22:26 |
nubbins` |
heh |
| 22:26 |
kakobrekla |
i doubt it would get approved cause you can play it |
| 22:26 |
Apocalyptic |
I say 10 BTC is decent |
| 22:27 |
mikaeldice |
I'd be keeping a keylogger record of everything so I can see how it's broken if it is broken. Maybe I could throw that up on the webapp for spectators |
| 22:27 |
Apocalyptic |
only at the end then |
| 22:27 |
Apocalyptic |
or others might pick up ideas/current progressions of competitors |
| 22:27 |
mikaeldice |
hmm, true |
| 22:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10319999 BTC [+] |
| 22:28 |
mikaeldice |
But to go back to the original problem, I need a way to prove that the wallet is there to begin with |
| 22:29 |
mikaeldice |
Maybe the webapp can sign a message every hour or something, but I don't know if that'll include the IP address where the message was signed |
| 22:30 |
Apocalyptic |
well mikaeldice, the bad news is the first broadcast IP can be easily spoofed |
| 22:33 |
Apocalyptic |
I think you don't really have a way to proove it's their |
| 22:33 |
Apocalyptic |
*there |
| 22:34 |
mikaeldice |
Maybe I could have the initial 1 BTC held in escrow, to be given to someone who can force the webapp to display their own bitcoin address |
| 22:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9348 @ 0.00089785 = 8.3931 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:35 |
mikaeldice |
and if they can do that, they can grab the whole pot. Or the whole pot could be held in escrow |
| 22:36 |
Apocalyptic |
but why couple this with a running bitcoind on the server then ? |
| 22:37 |
Apocalyptic |
it's not the actual challenge, is it ? you're trying to prove you security system |
| 22:37 |
mikaeldice |
I dunno, the excitement of it. I want to show that a hot wallet can be secured |
| 22:37 |
Apocalyptic |
just create a file with a randomhash and secure that |
| 22:37 |
Apocalyptic |
the one with the knownledge of the hash can claim the btc price |
| 22:38 |
Apocalyptic |
it's the hotwallet problem reduced to a more convenient layout |
| 22:39 |
mikaeldice |
true, but it lacks a certain panache.. I'd like to see a hot wallet sitting on a server with open root access for a month unmolested |
| 22:39 |
Apocalyptic |
it's the same thing |
| 22:39 |
mikaeldice |
Effectively, yeah |
| 22:39 |
Apocalyptic |
with a different perception perhaps |
| 22:40 |
Apocalyptic |
if you really want to do this bitcoind-hotwallet related |
| 22:41 |
Apocalyptic |
hum by the |
| 22:41 |
Apocalyptic |
*way, is your security system preventing/monitoring the access to wallet.dat only ? |
| 22:42 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3882 @ 0.0008951 = 3.4748 BTC [-] |
| 22:42 |
mikaeldice |
No, it would protect other things, like disabling program execution of setuid programs that have been modified, and access to the administrative program to the security software |
| 22:42 |
Apocalyptic |
in fact I was incorrect, it's not really an equivalent problem |
| 22:43 |
Apocalyptic |
in the sense that with bitcoind you have another attack vector to get the privatekey |
| 22:43 |
Apocalyptic |
they are loaded in memory at the start I believe, so if one could dump the memspace of bitcoind you have it |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
please bring it on. 10 btc of prize is reasonable. |
| 22:44 |
nubbins` |
urbit, i dunno |
| 22:45 |
mikaeldice |
nice |
| 22:47 |
mikaeldice |
I'd go to 10 if my company would sponsor it, but I doubt they would |
| 22:47 |
mikaeldice |
I can throw in 1 myself, plus whatever competitors add |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
what are the conditions? do we get unprivileged shell access? |
| 22:48 |
mikaeldice |
standard root access, but under restrictions from the security software |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
root!? |
| 22:49 |
mikaeldice |
Yep |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
ok let's play! |
| 22:49 |
mikaeldice |
root for 1 BTC, or if you want to break into SSH then you can get it for free |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
it'll be mostly a footrace though |
| 22:49 |
iwilcox |
brendio: Scamming on -assets? |
| 22:49 |
iwilcox |
Good luck. |
| 22:50 |
mikaeldice |
Not a scam.. when I do actually post the competition it'll be on the forums, and with an escrow for the BTC |
| 22:50 |
Apocalyptic |
<asciilifeform> it'll be mostly a footrace though // don't be so sure :) |
| 22:50 |
mikaeldice |
I came here to try to find the best way to prove it's not a scam, the best I could come up with is escrow |
| 22:50 |
mikaeldice |
I'm open to suggestions |
| 22:50 |
Apocalyptic |
mikaeldice, so did you count on that ? |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
also does 'root' mean something peculiar on your machine? |
| 22:51 |
Apocalyptic |
memdump protection |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
so the first-comer reads back your disk blockwise |
| 22:51 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, i assume it's the standard uid=0 access |
| 22:51 |
mikaeldice |
I hadn't, but it'll be taken into account now :D |
| 22:52 |
mikaeldice |
It'll be root with uid=0, but with kernel level protection in place restricting it's access |
| 22:52 |
mikaeldice |
The job of the contest is to bypass that protection |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
if i can't execute arbitrary ring0 instructions, i'm not root |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
and we're then playing with words |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
but if i can, i win. |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
or, probably not me, but the first fellow who plays |
| 22:53 |
mikaeldice |
I'll leave your hint to this.. somewhere on the system will be an administrative user who can access the security software to disable these protections; the system won't allow you to remove the last security administrator |
| 22:53 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.10500001 BTC [+] |
| 22:53 |
asciilifeform |
can i execute arbitrary ring0 cpu instructions or not? |
| 22:53 |
asciilifeform |
that's what 'root' means on planet earth. |
| 22:54 |
mikaeldice |
arbitrary? No, or it wouldn't be protected |
| 22:54 |
asciilifeform |
then it's a lie |
| 22:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.04002513 = 0.1601 BTC [-] {3} |
| 22:54 |
asciilifeform |
and i'm not root. |
| 22:54 |
asciilifeform |
just an unprivileged account labeled 'root' |
| 22:55 |
mikaeldice |
In that case, there would be effectively no user who is root |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
if you want a privilege escalation 0day out of me (or the next guy) it's gonna cost you more than 10btc. |
| 22:55 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, you have one ? |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
no comment |
| 22:55 |
Apocalyptic |
thought so |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: why? you'd care to share yours here? |
| 22:56 |
Apocalyptic |
not really |
| 22:56 |
Apocalyptic |
was just interested if you were into this kind of thing |
| 22:56 |
Apocalyptic |
not asking you to disclose anything |
| 22:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3118 @ 0.0008951 = 2.7909 BTC [-] |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
i do it for a living. |
| 22:57 |
Apocalyptic |
oh |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
it isn't exciting or glorious. |
| 22:57 |
Apocalyptic |
i know some guys working @Vupen |
| 22:57 |
Apocalyptic |
yeah, it depends |
| 22:59 |
Apocalyptic |
i heard it's kinda badly paid, for what it is |
| 22:59 |
asciilifeform |
it's badly paid if you sell exploits as such |
| 23:00 |
asciilifeform |
(not to mention the counterparty risk!) |
| 23:00 |
Apocalyptic |
depends who you sell to / where i guess |
| 23:01 |
Apocalyptic |
russian blackmarket or gov isn't the same rate |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
counterparty risk is about the same in either case. |
| 23:01 |
copumpkin |
brendio: hey |
| 23:01 |
brendio |
whats up you fucking faggot? |
| 23:01 |
copumpkin |
??? |
| 23:01 |
brendio |
what you want? |
| 23:01 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform, what do you mean in this specific case by CP risk ? |
| 23:02 |
Apocalyptic |
copumpkin, it's a squatter |
| 23:02 |
copumpkin |
I figured |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
as in, they club you over the head and take the goods instead of paying |
| 23:02 |
copumpkin |
the real one wouldn't call me that |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
or, if you deliver prior to payment, simply abscond. |
| 23:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4008 @ 0.0008951 = 3.5876 BTC [-] |
| 23:03 |
Apocalyptic |
i somehow assumed in this case of business they pay prior to delivery |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
then the risk is on the buyer. you could easily sell the 'whore's virginity' many times. |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
afaik this is actually the norm in '0day markets' |
| 23:06 |
Apocalyptic |
if you're a well known corp like Vupen there's no much risk for the buyer |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
sure. |
| 23:06 |
asciilifeform |
but i'm not vupen. and, afaik, you are also not vupen. |
| 23:06 |
Apocalyptic |
indeed |
| 23:07 |
asciilifeform |
nor do i particularly wish to be vupen. |
| 23:07 |
Apocalyptic |
why so ? |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
because i'm me. |
| 23:08 |
asciilifeform |
don't need to be someone else. |
| 23:12 |
Apocalyptic |
i'm sure you are you, how is that revelant to why you're not wishing to work @vupen eludes me |
| 23:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02301114 = 0.2531 BTC [-] {5} |
| 23:16 |
nubbins` |
how is it irrelevant? :D |
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| 23:42 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 252 @ 0.00297997 = 0.751 BTC [-] |
| 23:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143001 BTC [-] |
| 23:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.001 = 0.15 BTC {2} |
| 23:55 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143001 BTC [-] |