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00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 671 @ 0.001 = 0.671 BTC
00:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 137 @ 0.001 = 0.137 BTC
00:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6195 @ 0.0008951 = 5.5451 BTC [-]
00:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.00261382 = 0.3267 BTC [-] {9}
00:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 348 @ 0.001 = 0.348 BTC
00:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00260001 = 0.1144 BTC [-] {2}
00:34 kanzure has anyone made a scrooge mcduck bitcoin pool yet
00:35 KRS|Gotchawallet sounds like such fun! much profits
00:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 126 @ 0.001 = 0.126 BTC {2}
00:39 mike_c hehe, this must be old.
00:39 mike_c http://m.memegen.com/asLC10.jpg
00:39 mike_c that was like, 2 months ago!
00:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285564 = 0.2856 BTC [-] {7}
00:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.143001 BTC [-]
00:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5205 @ 0.00089711 = 4.6695 BTC [+] {2}
01:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7426 @ 0.00089911 = 6.6768 BTC [+]
01:07 KRS|Gotchawallet http://www.cnbc.com/id/101270093
01:07 ozbot European watchdog throws cold water on Bitcoin
01:07 iwilcox ;;ident defaced
01:07 gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'defaced', with hostmask 'defaced!~lakersz@201.209.14.6', is identified as user 'defaced`', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1Jpa1EJ5yPceMfpAwGsMfmp7421fYvvomz
01:08 defaced shhhh
01:08 iwilcox Amazed you find any marks in -assets, defaced. But, scam away.
01:08 defaced you really dont do anything with ur life huh
01:08 defaced damn shame
01:09 iwilcox What do you contribute to society, defaced?
01:09 defaced i beat the fuck outa
01:09 defaced people like you bro
01:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 87 @ 0.00181371 = 0.1578 BTC [-] {2}
01:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00089949 = 8.86 BTC [+] {4}
01:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00090058 = 2.2064 BTC [+]
01:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4342 @ 0.00090058 = 3.9103 BTC [+] {2}
01:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] {3}
01:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.0026 = 1.04 BTC [-] {5}
01:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
01:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 126 @ 0.001 = 0.126 BTC
01:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 374 @ 0.001 = 0.374 BTC
01:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00090237 = 10.0163 BTC [+]
01:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 503 @ 0.001 = 0.503 BTC {2}
02:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8458 @ 0.00090126 = 7.6229 BTC [-]
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02:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 350 @ 0.001 = 0.35 BTC
02:26 KRS|Gotchawallet ;;seen stringpuller
02:26 gribble I have not seen stringpuller.
02:26 KRS|Gotchawallet ;;seen yournuts
02:26 gribble I have not seen yournuts.
02:28 Apocalyptic much strings
02:28 KRS|Gotchawallet such fun
02:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6423 @ 0.00089911 = 5.775 BTC [-] {3}
02:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 277 @ 0.0008988 = 0.249 BTC [-]
02:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.0008988 = 2.1571 BTC [-]
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03:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27949598 BTC [+]
03:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 521 @ 0.001 = 0.521 BTC
03:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13545 @ 0.00089893 = 12.176 BTC [+]
03:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 263 @ 0.001 = 0.263 BTC
03:19 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3945826#msg3945826
03:19 ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
03:19 pankkake seriously I am the only one WTFing?
03:19 pankkake he sent me a nonsensical PM too
03:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26500001 BTC [-]
03:20 pankkake they must have some interesting drugs in Cyprus
03:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
03:25 BingoBoingo pankkake: Seriously case number 1 for outsourcing communications on bitcointalk is the potential to reveal your enterprise is actually just a couple of dudes playing on the forums for 20+ hours a day.
03:27 pankkake he seems to have recruited people actually
03:27 KRS|Gotchawallet but thanks for sharing
03:27 pankkake which is better than, say, kSLAUTHER only recruiting his family
03:27 KRS|Gotchawallet oop nvm
03:28 BingoBoingo pankkake: In that sense though Labcoin also "recruited" people
03:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 127 @ 0.001 = 0.127 BTC
03:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 386 @ 0.00089893 = 0.347 BTC [+]
03:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 309 @ 0.00089893 = 0.2778 BTC [+]
03:39 BingoBoingo I kind of wonder if the end game for Havelock is closure or more of a disintegration into a cryptostocks like ghetto
03:41 pankkake interestingly both claim they don't list scams, in some way
03:41 pankkake https://cryptostocks.com/welcome/help mentions delisting etc.
03:42 fiat500 pankkake: kslaughter is an interesting personality
03:42 pankkake how so?
03:43 fiat500 mid 90's he built this 3d strip club/sex simulator that he tried to sell to strip clubs so they can expand their user base
03:43 fiat500 there are videos of this you can find online
03:43 fiat500 interesting concept, curious execution
03:43 pankkake links? :)
03:43 fiat500 ill hunt for it
03:44 fiat500 they only had 1 client
03:44 fiat500 he then moved on to the filesharing scene
03:44 pankkake I only found his weird hosting company on archive.org which at one time was a "buy a hosting business" page
03:44 fiat500 not sure what website he ran exactly, but he stopped when they raided kim dotcom
03:45 fiat500 and now he's in bitcoin (probably influenced by his nephew)
03:45 fiat500 he doesnt strike me as a scammer, but definitely a serial "get rich quick" schemer
03:46 pankkake true
03:48 fiat500 google is no help, if anyone has chatlogs from #bitfunder the link will be in there
03:48 fiat500 (he volunteered this info and link himself, and was very proud of it too)
03:48 fiat500 strange considering his age
03:50 pankkake I thought he was pretty conservative, indeed
03:50 fiat500 anyway, he strikes me as a mafioso more than anything
03:50 fiat500 very interesting character
03:50 pankkake haha
03:50 fiat500 no shortage of those in the bitcoin scene thats for sure
03:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2692 @ 0.001 = 2.692 BTC
03:54 BingoBoingo Sometime late last year, a publication released an article on Bitcoin Barons or Bitcoin movers and shakers that was linked to recently and I can't seem to find the link anymore. Among the listed names were Nefario, Diablo-D3, and Caldwell. It came from a fairly major publication. If any of the aspiring bitpoor are listening on this channel or reading the logs, I'm offering a 0.025 BTC bounty to anyone who can find the link.
03:54 BingoBoingo ;;ident BingoBoingo
03:54 gribble Nick 'BingoBoingo', with hostmask 'BingoBoingo!~BingoBoin@unaffiliated/bingoboingo', is identified as user 'BingoBoingo', with GPG key id 309BB8D7F3251143, key fingerprint ADD7A9A28F85E5EF1F51904F309BB8D7F3251143, and bitcoin address None
03:54 fiat500 as for havelock, i find it surprising that pico is likely to outlast all of the non-mpex bitstock exchanges
03:55 fiat500 wouldnt have predicted that in july thats for sure
03:55 pankkake did you miss pico being "hacked"? :)
03:55 fiat500 and yet here we are
03:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1714 @ 0.00089893 = 1.5408 BTC [+] {2}
03:56 fiat500 the circumstances of that "hack" are fishy, but they ate the loss.. perhaps it is an elaborate ruse
03:56 BingoBoingo fiat500: I'm pretty sure being insolvent due to hack essentially makes picostocks the new cryptostocks
03:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5359 @ 0.00089887 = 4.817 BTC [-] {2}
03:56 fiat500 they are hashing at 500TH
03:56 fiat500 not quite insolvent
03:57 pankkake did they pay the missing dividends? I'm following that loosely
03:57 BingoBoingo Hashing at a fixed 500TH might as well be insolvent when (BTC hacked) > 5 BTC
03:57 pankkake still they lied multiple times about 100th and coint
03:57 fiat500 pankkake: why i said i wouldnt have predicted this
03:59 fiat500 the "cold wallet" being stolen was pretty cute
04:00 Apocalyptic indeed
04:00 fiat500 had to re-read that a few times
04:00 Apocalyptic i wonder why he was thinking
04:00 Apocalyptic that makes the statement so much legit
04:00 fiat500 i guess we have greatly divergent definitions of cold :P
04:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 342 @ 0.0026 = 0.8892 BTC [-] {3}
04:00 Apocalyptic cold = on my windows desktop
04:01 fiat500 also the funds were sent to a picostocks address
04:01 fiat500 i feel like the people who threw money at 100th really just dont want to know what happened
04:02 fiat500 sort of like when you're sick but don't want to visit a doctor in case its something terrible
04:03 fiat500 im citing the silence on their bitcointalk thread
04:04 BingoBoingo I think a safe rule of thumb for anything BTC is that Mining=Scam until delivery.
04:04 fiat500 its too bad these guys have to keep proving mp right, wish someone would prove him wrong for once :P
04:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8514 @ 0.00090116 = 7.6725 BTC [+] {3}
04:06 Apocalyptic fiat500, some did
04:06 Duffer1 ;;ident duffer1
04:06 gribble Nick 'duffer1', with hostmask 'Duffer1!~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified.
04:06 Apocalyptic but these are the exceptions
04:06 Duffer1 bah
04:06 fiat500 like who?
04:06 KRS|Gotchawallet whats with these dumps someone wants the price lower
04:06 fiat500 KRS|Gotchawallet: not everything is a conspiracy
04:07 Apocalyptic fiat500, I don't remember specific names but if you browse a bit on the forums i'm sure you 'll find some
04:07 fiat500 btc on an upswing -> makes perfect sense that people will dump
04:08 KRS|Gotchawallet i guess
04:08 fiat500 if there weren't two sides to the market we'd either be at zero or the moon now
04:08 KRS|Gotchawallet yea the market decides in the end
04:08 KRS|Gotchawallet buying pressure is strong
04:09 fiat500 Apocalyptic: i will say that this is the most creative destruction of wealth i've seen
04:10 KRS|Gotchawallet haha
04:10 KRS|Gotchawallet must be U.S. Washington insiders, they're good at that
04:10 Apocalyptic fiat, what is ?
04:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6506 @ 0.0008988 = 5.8476 BTC [-]
04:11 fiat500 we havent even seen the worst of it yet - these resources thrown into single purpose hardware
04:11 Apocalyptic oh mining
04:11 fiat500 with a self-fulfilling prophecy of obsoletion
04:11 Apocalyptic yeah
04:11 fiat500 at least before you could resell your GPUs to gamers
04:12 Apocalyptic and reprogram your FPGAs
04:12 fiat500 mining and derivative mining products
04:12 BingoBoingo Duffer1 has claimed the bounty for finding the article per: "Sometime late last year, a publication released an article on Bitcoin Barons or Bitcoin movers and shakers that was linked to recently and I can't seem to find the link anymore. Among the listed names were Nefario, Diablo-D3, and Caldwell. It came from a fairly major publication. If any of the aspiring bitpoor are listening on this channel or reading the logs, I'm offeri
04:12 BingoBoingo ng a 0.025 BTC bounty to anyone who can find the link."
04:13 fiat500 the latter is just as bad if not worse
04:13 Apocalyptic <fiat500> mining and derivative mining products // I disagree with the latter
04:13 fiat500 there is a "well respected" mining coop running now with 10k shares, several hundred shareholders, mining at 700GH/s
04:13 fiat500 but wait, there's more, the hope is in january they will be hashing at 28TH/s
04:13 Apocalyptic i don't see the Deprived's DMS as a destruction of wealth , though it's most creative for sure
04:14 fiat500 over 24k shares
04:14 fiat500 this is a "coop" with a market cap of ~1k BTC
04:15 fiat500 not familiar with Deprived
04:15 fiat500 but i felt my anecdote was representative of the state of affairs, most setups have similar stories
04:16 Apocalyptic did you see dandan claiming some corp is going to announce 5 TH/s machines soon ?
04:16 fiat500 oh shit
04:16 fiat500 i remember the DMS thing haha
04:16 fiat500 that was pure genius
04:16 Apocalyptic :)
04:16 fiat500 how did it do?
04:17 Apocalyptic it's doing good, although they have no exchanges to trade them
04:17 Apocalyptic so very illiquid
04:17 fiat500 i made a few btc on difficulty futures
04:17 pankkake seems a bit stuck because of ciphermine bonds, but otherwise it escaped unharmed from the other failures
04:18 fiat500 i envy TAT for virtualmine, that was also genius
04:20 fiat500 Apocalyptic: what does dandan know about anything?
04:20 fiat500 just curious
04:20 Apocalyptic he was at that bitcoin inside conf in Vegas last week
04:20 Apocalyptic heard the dude talking about it
04:20 fiat500 ah, interesting
04:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 418 @ 0.00260256 = 1.0879 BTC [-] {3}
04:22 Duffer1 ;;ident Duffer1
04:22 gribble Nick 'Duffer1', with hostmask 'Duffer1!~chatzilla@c-98-232-231-188.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is identified as user 'Duffer1', with GPG key id D5B0A00741A54A60, key fingerprint 68D283ADB0688306D98C5BE0D5B0A00741A54A60, and bitcoin address 1MHKhfiC7AgZdErt9b8xkXbcKoWSxPjJgG
04:22 Duffer1 gpg4win hates me
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04:23 pankkake gpg4lose
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04:23 fiat500 so the rat race continues
04:24 fiat500 feels to me like just sitting on btc and waiting for competitive mining to bring the price up is a better deal than betting on effervescent hardware
04:25 BingoBoingo Prolly unless everyone does it...
04:26 fiat500 human greed is predictable, lots of people seeing dollar signs
04:26 Apocalyptic fiat500, exactly my point
04:26 Apocalyptic that's why i'm sitting out this mining frenzy
04:26 fiat500 those building services around btc will do far better
04:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3449 @ 0.00089957 = 3.1026 BTC [+] {2}
04:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.265 = 0.795 BTC [-] {2}
04:27 fiat500 coinbase is just kicking ass right now
04:27 fiat500 1:25 AM <BingoBoingo> Prolly unless everyone does it...
04:27 fiat500 there are still people mining with gpus
04:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.263011 = 0.526 BTC [-]
04:28 pankkake mining *bitcoin*?
04:28 fiat500 yes
04:28 pankkake that's silly
04:28 pankkake you can make more bitcoins by mining altcoins
04:28 BingoBoingo fiat500: And they've been right beat if they haven't been mining and dumping altcoins
04:29 fiat500 for some its "supporting the network"
04:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0026 = 0.26 BTC [-]
04:29 pankkake they're not statistically significant anymore
04:29 pankkake so it's just to feel good I guess
04:29 fiat500 im not defending them
04:29 pankkake I just try to understand :)
04:29 BingoBoingo If people want to really donate to "support" the network they can run VPS nodes with walletless instances of bitcoind
04:29 fiat500 i think they need a math refresher
04:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 613 @ 0.0026 = 1.5938 BTC [-] {2}
04:30 pankkake eheh, that's what I'm doing (running a node with good connectivity/many connections)
04:30 pankkake + seeding the bootstrap torrent
04:30 fiat500 AM's 300MH/s usb miners were the lulz
04:30 pankkake because initial syncing is so slow
04:30 fiat500 i'd love to see some recent numbers for those
04:30 pankkake and even sometimes tx propagation is slow
04:31 fiat500 pankkake: this is something that will hopefully be fixed soon via software
04:32 BingoBoingo fiat500: Probably not by the "devs" though
04:32 fiat500 no i mean by the devs
04:32 fiat500 last i heard a fix had been specced out
04:32 fiat500 google bloom filter blockchain
04:33 BingoBoingo bloomfilter has been done already, it mostly benefits spv clients
04:33 fiat500 oh, guess im behind
04:33 pankkake I've seen the thing - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2964
04:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 285 @ 0.0026 = 0.741 BTC [-]
04:34 BingoBoingo Lolz: "gmaxwell commented 3 months ago: Pulltester where are you?"
04:35 fiat500 pankkake: this PR was closed
04:35 pankkake yeah, but I've seen them talk about something similar lately
04:35 fiat500 right, gavin mentioned it on /r/bitcoin
04:35 fiat500 but he said it was as-yet not implemented
04:37 KRS|Gotchawallet omg
04:37 KRS|Gotchawallet almost broke $1K
04:37 KRS|Gotchawallet huge buy at mp
04:38 KRS|Gotchawallet sorry on gox
04:38 pankkake ;;ticker
04:38 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 976.87, Best ask: 983.47268, Bid-ask spread: 6.60268, Last trade: 976.865, 24 hour volume: 14696.92865596, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 915.44161
04:38 pankkake ;;bc,xau
04:38 gribble 1 XAU = 1226.800000000000 USD = 1.28447281662 BTC
04:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 907 @ 0.00090126 = 0.8174 BTC [+]
04:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00089675 = 11.5681 BTC [-] {2}
04:47 BingoBoingo My has TradeFortress's forum trust fallen "Trust: -363: -7 / +7(7)"
04:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27689989 BTC [+]
04:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 33595 @ 0.00008329 = 2.7981 BTC [-] {15}
04:50 pankkake added "Went from DefaultTrust to Default" for the lulz, but it's really useless now
04:50 pankkake his sent feedbacks were actually useful
04:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC
04:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00089567 = 5.9562 BTC [-] {2}
04:55 BingoBoingo Maybe pankkake? A distinct problem is that even an actual inputs.io hack can't absolve him of having been CoinLender's operator and primary borrower simultaneously.
04:56 pankkake I'm not arguing that
04:56 pankkake starting inputs.io was awfully convenient given his other businesses
04:59 BingoBoingo Sure. It was also useful for people like Dooglus who had the sense to make TF keep coins on deposit in the event of an Input.io default.
05:00 BingoBoingo A problem I am seeing though is that if TradeFortress was the primary borrower from Coinlenders and ran both Input.io and Coinlenders under TradeFortress that this might actually should have been a Coinlenders default.
05:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.26301005 = 0.789 BTC [-] {2}
05:05 BingoBoingo Not only could be not manage a wallet safely, he seems incapable of managing a default properly.
05:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00090242 = 5.234 BTC [+] {3}
05:08 pankkake so he took the easy route trying to cover his lies about CL
05:10 Apocalyptic what was there to cover for CL ?
05:10 Apocalyptic I thought all loans were secured
05:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.26156439 = 8.3701 BTC [-] {7}
05:14 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: These are then answers only time can give us.
05:14 Apocalyptic you seem to know more than that
05:17 BingoBoingo I wish
05:17 Apocalyptic so why are you suggesting it was a CL default coverup ?
05:19 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Bitcoin problems. Knowing if Inputs was actually a hack or an insider theft (and there was one insider) will require an eventual spending of the coins devlared hacked.
05:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4665 @ 0.00089668 = 4.183 BTC [-] {2}
05:20 Apocalyptic oh i think that's beyound doubt
05:20 Apocalyptic it was an inside theft like bitcoinica
05:20 Apocalyptic question is how is that related to CL
05:21 Apocalyptic (aka TF decided to hack himself for the lulz of it)
05:22 BingoBoingo If TF borrowed from Coinlenders personally though and Inputs.io was hacked, it would seem paying inputs borrowers with coinlenders funds would be most prudent. They are related through the same operator. i am simply imagining how action should have happened in the most charitable situation, the unlikely one in which there was an actual hack and no relic collectors.
05:23 Apocalyptic oh I see
05:27 BingoBoingo Knowing whether he was actually hacked or just stole shit because bitcoin is unknowab le except under certain conditions. I'm just rambling in light of how his trust fell, about how in the best case for him his incompetence prevents his handling of this from being the best case, or the second best case with respect to a claim to competence he might have offered or professed to have offered in the past.
05:31 BingoBoingo Seeing as how VC n00bs are attempting to rehabilitate Zhou Tong and Amir Taaki, it is probably prudent to establish in the future for these sorts of failure why such things should not be considered possible.
05:35 Apocalyptic " Zhou Tong and Amir Taaki" you forgot Nefario here
05:36 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Zhou and Amir have actual backing. To my knowledge Nefario just has n00bs still seeking backing.
05:37 Apocalyptic nope, some VC is backing Nefario as well
05:37 Apocalyptic in his recent BTC exchange project in the UK
05:38 BingoBoingo I might have to read a bit. Didn't know his new UK project has backing.
05:38 fiat500 "should not be considered possible."
05:38 fiat500 what things?
05:39 Apocalyptic BingoBoingo, http://techcrunch.com/2013/10/29/coinfloor/
05:39 Apocalyptic "with news today that Passion Capital and Hinrikus, now obviously clued up a little, have joined forces to back new London-based Biticoin exchange Coinfloor."
05:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3077 @ 0.00089562 = 2.7558 BTC [-]
05:40 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: Isn't citing TechCrunch like citing Social Text? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
05:41 Apocalyptic i get what you mean, but do you thing this specific info I quoted isn't accurate ?
05:41 pankkake what is Social Text?
05:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3473 @ 0.0008949 = 3.108 BTC [-]
05:42 BingoBoingo Apocalyptic: First sentence second paragraph "Not least was Passion Capital’s Stefan Glaenzer who openly described himself as “totally clueless” and “on a learning mission” regarding Bitcoin."
05:42 pankkake IIRC CoinLenders became awfully non-transparent, so it was already guessable something was up
05:42 BingoBoingo pankkake: The "academic" journal pranked in the Skokal affair
05:43 pankkake oh, right
05:45 BingoBoingo Maybe it speaks kind of well for BTC that Stefan Glaenzer is willing to throw away Dollars or Pounds (Seriously how long ago was the last time a paper Pound Sterling represented an actual Pound of Sterling Silver) in order to get into BTC. Even if it is a suicide mission for his investment.
05:47 pankkake In November 2012 Glänzer admitted to sexually assaulting a woman on the London Underground after police witnessed the assault. He said he was on a "drugs binge" at the time of the incident
05:47 fiat500 now this is money well-spent http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/oculus-raises-an-extra-75-million-to-bring-rift-headset-to-market/
05:48 BingoBoingo "Who hasn't been in a drunked stupor?" to cite the Illustrious Toronto Mayor Rob Ford
05:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00296999 = 0.1307 BTC [-]
05:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00296999 = 0.1633 BTC [-]
06:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27399999 BTC [+]
06:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27399999 BTC [+]
06:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00090019 = 7.5211 BTC [+] {2}
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00090116 = 10.4985 BTC [+] {2}
06:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9964 @ 0.00089929 = 8.9605 BTC [-] {2}
06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 576 @ 0.001 = 0.576 BTC
06:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6177 @ 0.00089482 = 5.5273 BTC [-]
06:33 mircea_popescu anyone wanting to become a duke : dukedom for sale. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352
06:33 mircea_popescu perhaps a little on the expensive side.
06:35 BingoBoingo Sounds cheap for a Dukedom. Expensive for a Dukedom of that though.
06:37 mircea_popescu seeing how the modern state has legislated itself into a corner, i don't see it i tell you.
06:37 mircea_popescu there's certainly no value in the scraps of an old dukedom.
06:38 KRS|Gotchawallet if you become a duke, does that mean you wear a cape from now on?
06:38 mircea_popescu not like it comes with the right/obligation to raise an army, administer justice and certify brides' virginity or anything
06:38 mircea_popescu KRS|Gotchawallet i thought capes were for cunts.
06:39 KRS|Gotchawallet maybe..capes could have been made obsolete too
06:39 KRS|Gotchawallet nobody wears capes in the U.S. i suppose if you did you would worry people
06:40 mircea_popescu s/cunts/counts
06:40 mircea_popescu dukes get nice pearly hats.
06:40 BingoBoingo Anyone actually make anything with Urbit?
06:42 mircea_popescu KRS|Gotchawallet http://assets3.parliament.uk/woa/woa-zoom-popup/woa-large/2593-1-h.tif << as you can see. they're all dukes there. york, lancaster, clarence, gloucester etc
06:42 KRS|Gotchawallet yes a count would wear a cape..hmm. it would be cool to be a duke. i have a friend who became a minister by sending an application and paying a $14 dollar service charge. isnt that weird.
06:42 mircea_popescu it sounds like the us.
06:43 KRS|Gotchawallet ah yes..and duke of oil
06:43 KRS|Gotchawallet eh erl
06:44 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo they failed to make a strip poker
06:44 mircea_popescu kinda the end of it, even z80 had a strip poker.
06:44 BingoBoingo Yeah. I figured they would.
06:45 mircea_popescu the world has very little talent and most of it is sorely mismanaged.
06:47 BingoBoingo It's like how apparently MINIX 3 i supposed to be a big thing when they just made small changes to the MINIX kernel and just ripped the old NetBSD userland.
06:49 mircea_popescu not really related tho, from what i gather urbit was actually a from-scratch thing
06:50 BingoBoingo Sure, urbit was from scratch, but it can't find anyone capable of actually building anything from scratch. Minix is that ancient thing, couldn't sell textbooks anymore and then they just ripped NetBSD and people still don't care about it.
06:51 mircea_popescu lol
06:52 pankkake no one cares about netbsd either
06:53 mircea_popescu i think that's more of a ltc thing, no one cares but it can't hurt to have around.
06:53 BingoBoingo pankkake: Consumer electronics manufacterers love NetBSD.
06:54 pankkake well I hope netbsd devs actually understand the code their are touching
06:54 pankkake they*
06:54 BingoBoingo Want to make a portable DVD player on whatever this month's cheapest chip is? FreeBSD might not support the architecture.
06:54 pankkake netbsd makes many claims about architectures, but many are also broken
06:55 BingoBoingo pankkake: Well, for the fringe shit where they overlap the OpenBSD implementations tend to be better (Machintosh 68K as an example)
06:56 BingoBoingo pankkake: The choice though I imagine ends up to being throw money at code or throw money at chips.
06:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00089583 = 10.0781 BTC [+]
07:00 BingoBoingo Another problem is people assume "compiles on" architecture X means once compiled works the sames as compiled on architecture Y does.
07:02 pankkake one of the reason the bigger ones (linux, freebsd) are the ones running on those architectures: it's actually tested
07:03 BingoBoingo pankkake: It isn't quite so simple though. On the popular architectures you get most of the OS choices though.
07:03 BingoBoingo Sometime you find somthing like OpenGenera that only works on DEC Alpha processors running HP TruUx under it
07:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00089507 = 4.8334 BTC [-] {2}
07:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00089482 = 3.5345 BTC [-]
07:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.0008966 = 6.859 BTC [+]
07:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00089425 = 4.3818 BTC [-] {2}
07:44 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: what is a popular architecture these days?
07:44 thestringpuller x86_64?
07:46 azoo I recall from few years back that there was a site on which someone could buy shares for BC related companies
07:46 azoo anyone happens to know the name?
07:48 thestringpuller uuuuhhhh
07:48 thestringpuller it's called mpex azoo
07:48 thestringpuller the only companies I would personally invest in is S.NSA, S.MPOE, or S.BBET
07:48 thestringpuller Asicminer shares are sold on havelock
07:48 truffles s.nsa lol
07:49 thestringpuller S.NSA already is taking preorders on the cardano
07:49 thestringpuller so I mean revenue is sure to come through unless the ipo is bubbling like boiling water
07:49 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: I don't know if there is one worth mentioning.
07:49 thestringpuller !ticker m s.nsa
07:49 assbot [MPEX:S.NSA] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00012 / 0.0001471 / 0.00016 (12171 shares, 1.79 BTC), 30D: 0.0001011 / 0.00011006 / 0.000234 (512079 shares, 56.36 BTC)
07:49 jurov what???? cardano preorders???
07:49 thestringpuller "perorders"
07:50 thestringpuller isn't there like a list of people who already are committing to buying one upon release jurov ?
07:50 jurov if, then is strictly unofficial.
07:50 BingoBoingo I have yet to see a cardano preorder commitment regime
07:50 jurov there are only shareholders so far
07:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285248 = 0.2852 BTC [-] {4}
07:51 jurov thestringpuller: and just few hours ago i have argued with mircea about advertising
07:51 jurov and His Popescuousness said no produc, no advertising
07:52 jurov and no preorders
07:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.002852 = 0.6274 BTC [-] {2}
07:52 jurov and no bitbet volume, too :(
07:52 thestringpuller we need to make bitbet mainstream
07:52 thestringpuller get bookies to use it
07:52 thestringpuller then there would be more volume
07:53 truffles feels like i just woke up, but it was 10 hrs ago, is time passing me by??
07:54 thestringpuller !ticker m s.bbet
07:54 assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00056 / 0.00056 / 0.00056 (20 shares, 0.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00056 / 0.00059883 / 0.0006 (686 shares, 0.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00066634 / 0.00075 (47266 shares, 31.50 BTC)
07:55 thestringpuller lol jurov you weren't kidding about no volume....
07:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2418 @ 0.0008966 = 2.168 BTC [+]
07:56 thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/HH9mqRc.jpg - what is bitcoin?
07:57 pankkake what is that blue screen?
07:59 ThickAsThieves ;;g Jeopardy
07:59 gribble Error: "g" is not a valid command.
07:59 ThickAsThieves ;;google Jeopardy
07:59 gribble This is JEOPARDY! - America's Favorite Quiz Show®: <http://www.jeopardy.com/>; Jeopardy! - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!>; JeopardyLabs - Online Jeopardy Template: <https://jeopardylabs.com/>
08:00 truffles channel 25
08:03 thestringpuller truffl-opa-lus
08:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0008966 = 0.8966 BTC [+]
08:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.002555 = 0.2555 BTC [-] {2}
08:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26140001 BTC [-]
08:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 950 @ 0.0008966 = 0.8518 BTC [+]
08:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0008963 = 8.6941 BTC [-] {2}
08:12 jurov thestringpuller: i meant the cardano bet
08:13 jurov where i'm so far betting with myself
08:22 ThickAsThieves isnt this MP's thing? put money on your delivery if you are for realz
08:22 ThickAsThieves or did cardano never say itd be out this year?
08:25 pankkake no clear promise or preorder, so he can get away with not doing it…
08:26 pankkake ooh someone tried to make a starcraft bet but it was rejected :(
08:28 Duffer1 what was the bet?
08:28 ThickAsThieves ;;bcstats
08:28 Duffer1 mc best protoss or best protoss is mc
08:28 gribble Current Blocks: 274671 | Current Difficulty: 9.08350862437022E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 276191 | Next Difficulty In: 1520 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 8 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1052915670.97 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.91508
08:29 pankkake :D no scarlett vs. naniwa showmatch (that I didn't know about)
08:29 Duffer1 oh the 12btc one?
08:30 pankkake wow! you're right they're competing for BTC!!
08:30 pankkake http://www.ongamers.com/articles/naniwa-and-scarlett-to-go-head-to-head-in-a-bo7-show-match/1100-306/
08:30 ozbot NaNiwa and Scarlett to go head to head in a BO7 show match. - onGamers
08:31 pankkake I wouldn't call 12 BTC a "showmatch", though they're probably filthy rich already
08:31 Duffer1 naniwa's probably doing alright even though he's not as good as koreans hehe
08:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15993 @ 0.00089683 = 14.343 BTC [+] {2}
08:34 Duffer1 i don't think i've ever seen scarlett play competitively, i saw her casting at homestory cup, she sounds like she knows her game
08:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00295941 = 0.1065 BTC [+] {4}
08:35 Duffer1 and having sc2 players compete for btc is brilliant
08:35 pankkake she casted? interesting
08:35 Duffer1 a couple games only
08:36 Duffer1 have you seen homestory cup? everyone gets a turn at the mic
08:37 pankkake I've been out of the loop
08:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 107 @ 0.00297839 = 0.3187 BTC [+] {4}
08:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.002979 = 0.1936 BTC [+]
08:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00089575 = 3.9861 BTC [-] {2}
08:52 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
08:52 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 900.02, Best ask: 907.76569, Bid-ask spread: 7.74569, Last trade: 896.0, 24 hour volume: 16677.20007426, 24 hour low: 839.5, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 922.16502
08:52 mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.2249 * 922 - 195
08:52 gribble 12.3578
08:53 mircea_popescu so bitpay is basically charging 2x paypal.
08:54 pankkake what?
08:54 pankkake isn't bitpay using bitstamp?
08:56 pigeons no they dont
08:56 pigeons they sell off-exchange
08:56 ThickAsThieves bitpay will charge whatever they can get away with, just like paypal
08:57 ThickAsThieves write a blog about the price
08:57 ThickAsThieves maybe itll go down
08:58 ThickAsThieves get Bitcoin Magazine to let you do a guest post about how bitpay is a ripoff and how that's bad for the movement
08:58 ThickAsThieves thatll get Gallipi to pay attention
08:59 pigeons heh
08:59 pankkake https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-exchange-rates
08:59 ozbot Bitcoin Exchange Rates | BitPay
08:59 pankkake ;;ticker --market bitstamp
08:59 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 877.0, Best ask: 878.38, Bid-ask spread: 1.38000, Last trade: 877.0, 24 hour volume: 15931.72888633, 24 hour low: 840.0, 24 hour high: 920.42, 24 hour vwap: 878.24983594
09:00 pigeons exchange rates is not what they charge you to process your payments
09:00 Duffer1 that's actually a pretty good idea tat
09:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i don't care that much tbh.
09:01 asciilifeform "
09:01 asciilifeform dukedom" sold! http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352
09:01 ThickAsThieves it goes hand in hand with the argument that a bitcoin ebay cant exist without better prices
09:01 pigeons well it might be a good idea, but gallipi owns part of bitcoin magazine so good luck getting the article in
09:01 mircea_popescu i could just email him omg.
09:02 pankkake their exchange rate is moving quite a lot
09:02 pankkake so depending on when you click "pay"… you get something different
09:02 ThickAsThieves mp, you must make a scene
09:02 ThickAsThieves this is bitcoin.
09:03 ThickAsThieves hell, email the forbesy guy
09:03 ThickAsThieves have him write a half-assed article on it
09:03 ThickAsThieves his boss will give him a cookie for the story
09:03 mircea_popescu i think it'd rather shoot some bowside snark and let it be at that lol
09:04 pigeons heh matonis owns bitcoin magaine too
09:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform wd!
09:04 ThickAsThieves btc mag has the branding okay, but the content is really off the mark
09:05 pigeons it used to be unreadable, it seems to have gotten slightly better sometimes?
09:05 mircea_popescu what;'s the branding, "the trade rag that sucked so bad we had to steal it from the original nuts" ?
09:05 ThickAsThieves they cant decide whether to be a source for interesting original btc content, shill, or intellectual/sciences theory
09:06 pigeons i dont think they are interested in the content, they seem like marketers
09:06 ThickAsThieves the theory articles are often too random in nature
09:06 ThickAsThieves like it's a place for their nerd friends to wax about their latest idea
09:06 mircea_popescu usg amirite ?
09:07 mircea_popescu (usg = user generated content, ftr)
09:07 mircea_popescu ((ftr = for the record))
09:08 ThickAsThieves http://bitcoinmagazine.com/8696/the-bitpay-boom/
09:08 ozbot The BitPay BOOM – Bitcoin Magazine
09:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC
09:08 ThickAsThieves foundation shill shills magazine owner biz, on owners shill mag site
09:09 mircea_popescu wait, just 50k transactions !?
09:09 mircea_popescu holy shit for all the hassle that's all !?
09:09 mircea_popescu nm i take it all back, they can have 6%
09:09 ThickAsThieves but they have 10000+ merchants
09:09 pankkake note to bitbet mods whoever they are: remove the "" around Scarlett in the title of the starcraft bet, I messed up (but already sent the wager)
09:09 ThickAsThieves 5 tx each!
09:09 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you realise avg purchase is probably 0.001
09:10 nubbins` hi
09:10 ThickAsThieves hey nubs
09:10 ThickAsThieves you listen to Greg MacPherson at all?
09:10 pankkake I don't think so. it's a good way to "cash out" your btc without going through the hassle of an exchange
09:10 pankkake or having $5000+ transactions alerting the tax man
09:11 mircea_popescu that's the most ridiculous thing i ever heard.
09:11 mircea_popescu what in bitpay's structure gives you the delusion of tax immunity ?
09:12 nubbins` haven't listened to him, nope
09:12 ThickAsThieves he's canadian
09:12 ThickAsThieves sorta like prairie rock but very blue collar
09:12 pankkake for example, in France, any transaction over 5000 EUR gets you tracfin, automatically
09:12 ThickAsThieves like The Weakerthans with balls
09:12 mircea_popescu BitPay processed 6,296 bitcoin transactions in a single day, making it the most popular day in the history of bitcoin commerce. On November 29, more than 6% of all transactions on the bitcoin network were spent on goods and services through BitPayÂ’s platform.
09:12 mircea_popescu lol that's so cute.
09:13 ThickAsThieves can that even be true?
09:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "The only caveat is that we need KYC on the buyer"
09:14 mircea_popescu um ? srsly ?
09:14 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's non-mpoe-pr-style pr. you know, like bfl used to do it.
09:14 asciilifeform there wasn't any KYC nonsense when Mr. M (Curtis Yarvin) spoke to me re: the original award.
09:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00089861 = 7.4585 BTC [+] {3}
09:15 mircea_popescu but doesn';t this seem a little... strange, so to speak ?
09:15 asciilifeform i just emailed him my (not a secret at all) meatspace name.
09:15 asciilifeform and he put me on the urbit-dukes mailing list back in '10.
09:15 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOu6e-_qgKE
09:15 ozbot Greg MacPherson Band - California - YouTube
09:16 ThickAsThieves good song to smoke anything to
09:16 pigeons hope the buyer isnt a terrorist
09:16 nubbins` ah, fun, will check it out
09:16 mircea_popescu is he moreover using unfortunate terminology to denote "i'd rather know who the fuck the dukes are" ?
09:17 asciilifeform sumthinglikethat
09:17 mircea_popescu a i c
09:17 asciilifeform if you read his original proposals, he regards the dukedoms as an almost literal thing
09:17 nubbins` ^
09:17 nubbins` odd man
09:17 asciilifeform that one day they will Take Over the World (TM)
09:17 mircea_popescu i don't take unsigned things to be literal.
09:18 asciilifeform but i don't think he had caught the pgp train yet, back then.
09:18 BingoBoingo This Yarvin guy seems like he could use a bit of Vitamin H
09:18 asciilifeform which is odd, given his background.
09:18 mircea_popescu haha. i'm pretty certain they blew their one chance to be part of the taking over tghe world crew.
09:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00285044 = 0.3335 BTC [-] {5}
09:19 asciilifeform as far as i'm concerned, they blew it when they went with 'userspace process on top of unix' when designing 'ab initio computer'.
09:19 mircea_popescu we know of different things.
09:20 asciilifeform see also: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/utp3H7F78so/Dt24fpiT3xcJ
09:21 nubbins` they blew it when they required the user to cum in the user's own mouth while reading the documentation
09:21 nubbins` (sry if the convo has moved on)
09:21 mircea_popescu no, that part is standard fare for computer shit.
09:21 mircea_popescu satoshi did the same thing.
09:22 asciilifeform and also https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/4B12WpF1rL0/hYF3YPuqvR8J (rest of thread)
09:27 pankkake ;;estimate
09:27 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 1051967296.83 based on data since last change | 1077508662.98 based on data for last three days
09:27 pankkake shit
09:27 nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqUE2_TET9I
09:27 ozbot BASE Jumper survives terrifying cliff strike - YouTube
09:27 nubbins` "Injuries: compression fracture of the T12 vertebra, 5 stitches to the eye, 6 stitches to the chin, severely sprained back, wrist and hand, multiple bruised areas"
09:28 pankkake there was nothing left in the brain to damage?
09:29 TomServo asciilifeform: what's the 2010 puzzle you're referring to in that link?
09:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC
09:30 asciilifeform TomServo: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2010/01/maxwells-equations-of-software.html
09:30 BingoBoingo Favorite part of the second link of that link to that thread asciilifeform "Sent from my iPhone" by Curtis
09:30 asciilifeform puzzle was: 'write a subtraction routine' in Nock.
09:31 asciilifeform i did it with pencil, but wrote a compiler of the language to test: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103
09:31 pankkake omg neo&bee is getting full shilling from activemining shareholders now
09:31 pankkake RIP
09:31 asciilifeform something like 20 people (forget exact #) solved.
09:32 asciilifeform and then puttered around on a mailing list for a while
09:32 asciilifeform waiting for mr. m to write an alpha version of his thing.
09:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5986 @ 0.00089417 = 5.3525 BTC [-] {3}
09:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00089442 = 7.2895 BTC [+]
09:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.273 BTC [+]
09:36 nubbins` http://imgur.com/dVv1Lkx
09:36 ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer
09:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: why is that part interesting?
09:36 nubbins` freshly baked sourdough
09:36 ThickAsThieves hey thats a dehumidifier rack
09:37 nubbins` nod :D
09:37 nubbins` dehydrator specifically
09:37 ThickAsThieves i still have mine
09:37 ThickAsThieves in a box
09:37 ThickAsThieves from like 1995
09:37 nubbins` i have a ton of them, having broken my first one and purchasing a good one the second time around
09:38 nubbins` was on a really big homemade camping food kick the last few summers
09:39 nubbins` it's nice -- and surprising -- to be able to pour boiling water into a container, wait 5 minutes, and have a delicious meal that's mot full of sodium benzoate and shit
09:39 nubbins` *not
09:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Just seems like an interesting choice for someone who would take to shepherding such a project unless they were already full scheier throwing things out in the wild on orders to waste the time of more capable people like yourself.
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
09:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it isn't like there is an S.NSA phone he could buy instead.
09:42 asciilifeform not everyone has the luxury of eschewing cell phone.
09:42 BingoBoingo Not yet. That there isn't a great emailing cellphone means though that the cell phone in its lesser forms should be an emailing too at all.
09:43 asciilifeform want a browser in yer pocket? take your pick, aipnohe or pwndroid
09:44 BingoBoingo I don't much understand the appeal of a browser in the pocket.
09:45 asciilifeform browser, mail, etc.
09:45 pigeons i really can't use anything without a physical keyboard, waste of time
09:45 asciilifeform if you're trying to putter about in the u.s. business world, you pretty much have to be able to receive email in the car, train...
09:46 asciilifeform it isn't really negotiable.
09:47 asciilifeform can't even buy a piece of junk without a smartpnohe.
09:47 asciilifeform i once tried to buy some ups batteries on 'craigslist', then stood about in a parking lot for an hour
09:47 asciilifeform turned out, the seller was in a van, sending me mail...
09:48 BingoBoingo Ouch. Pawn shop didn't have any batteries?
09:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1854 @ 0.00051 = 0.9455 BTC [-]
09:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you'd buy lead-acid battery in a pawn shop?
09:48 asciilifeform shelf life is ~2 yr, useful life: ~5 deep cycles.
09:49 nubbins` the appeal is that you never have to waste a moment -- you can browse upworthy while you're taking a shit.
09:49 nubbins` or never have to not waste a moment, if you like
09:49 asciilifeform if you buy one, treat it the way you'd treat an ms-winblows box kept around for games.
09:50 asciilifeform don't load it with secrets, assume that all input devices (camera, microphone) are logged.
09:50 asciilifeform then it's quite harmless.
09:50 BingoBoingo Fair enough.
09:51 nubbins` man, this sourdough is actually the best batch yet
09:51 asciilifeform and if you carry it on the street, or in a car, treat it as a public announcement, brass band playing, of your goings.
09:51 asciilifeform (same applies to 'dumb' phone)
09:56 asciilifeform the 'dukedom' / KYC thread: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/urbit-dev/PvXo1t7uNrY/ik5e-9b-cNwJ
09:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2678 @ 0.00089901 = 2.4075 BTC [+]
09:58 pankkake these hipsters seem to take themselves very seriously
10:01 asciilifeform not my problem any more! now some other fellow will have to horsewhip peasants, hang thieves, test virginity, in that dukedom.
10:04 nubbins` and a sale is made
10:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5687 @ 0.00090068 = 5.1222 BTC [+]
10:05 nubbins` i had a great idea for 3d printing an adjustable-length squeegee handle last night
10:14 nubbins` so my bank released an update to their mobile banking app
10:15 nubbins` i can now take a photograph of the front and back of a cheque
10:15 nubbins` and they'll cash it
10:16 deadweasel tits, what bank?
10:16 nubbins` cibc
10:16 deadweasel oh canada
10:17 nubbins` our home and native land
10:17 deadweasel would love my Fed Credit union to do that. but they are small an dnice and easy, not technically savvy tho.
10:18 deadweasel sorry, dont' know the rest of canadian song
10:18 deadweasel I'm a Mainah now though :) Getting CLOSE!
10:18 deadweasel lock your doors.
10:20 TomServo My credit union has that feature in their mobile app, it's handy.
10:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13132 @ 0.00089887 = 11.804 BTC [-] {2}
10:37 asciilifeform twist!
10:37 asciilifeform the fellow who bought my 'dukedom': http://www.nostate.com/1364/certificate-of-loss-of-nationality-canceled-us-passport/
10:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11530 @ 0.00089806 = 10.3546 BTC [-]
10:39 pankkake if only it was that easy
10:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04499997 = 0.135 BTC [+]
10:41 BingoBoingo Lol, and he'd rather have the Urbit than the BTC?
10:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: as you can see, he did.
10:42 asciilifeform one of you folks is in slovakia? mebbe say hello to him for me.
10:46 ThickAsThieves i figured out the source of these strange emails
10:46 ThickAsThieves of people asking how to open accounts and buy AM shares
10:46 ThickAsThieves "Your AM100 fund was recommended by Michael Robinson
10:46 ThickAsThieves Is the fund still open
10:46 ThickAsThieves If so please forward the necessary information"
10:46 ThickAsThieves some stock recommender circle named AM100 or something
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.098 = 0.294 BTC [-]
10:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.098 = 0.294 BTC [-]
10:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 945 @ 0.00285 = 2.6933 BTC [-] {6}
10:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.094074 = 0.2822 BTC [-] {3}
11:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00089806 = 2.8738 BTC [-] {2}
11:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10500 @ 0.001 = 10.5 BTC {2}
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00089806 = 8.0825 BTC [-]
11:16 deadweasel ;;ticker
11:19 deadweasel $avg
11:19 mpexbot deadweasel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
11:19 deadweasel bot revolt
11:19 deadweasel ;;next
11:19 deadweasel ;;shitferbrains
11:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 48 @ 0.0024 = 0.1152 BTC [+]
11:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC
11:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC
11:30 jurov Lol so mike gogulski is onto urbit? Will prod him for you,sure.
11:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8086 @ 0.00009972 = 0.8063 BTC [+] {8}
11:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00090077 = 7.9268 BTC [+] {2}
11:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
11:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 11900 @ 0.001 = 11.9 BTC
11:34 jurov asciilifeform: you should have IPO'd it on havelock
11:35 jurov Although... while i can imagine shareholders dealing with the virgins
11:35 jurov not sure about the other things
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 335 @ 0.00285 = 0.9548 BTC [-]
11:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC
11:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00090144 = 1.9381 BTC [+]
11:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1999 @ 0.001 = 1.999 BTC
11:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 19428 @ 0.001 = 19.428 BTC {2}
11:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
11:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00090144 = 2.2085 BTC [+]
11:58 kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/1503576/plain/
11:58 kakobrekla lulzy
12:00 mike_c love btc bizness. same email: "would you like invest?" "would you like to be our customer support rep?"
12:00 ThickAsThieves registered msb i assume
12:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00089756 = 3.0517 BTC [-] {2}
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.05 = 0.15 BTC
12:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00255266 = 0.2119 BTC [-] {7}
12:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC
12:09 mike_c are those curly braces new? what do they mean?
12:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 211 @ 0.001 = 0.211 BTC
12:13 dexX7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXK1pmxM3qg
12:13 ozbot 7 REASONS WHY DOGECOIN WILL BE SUCCESSFUL - PLZ WATCH AND DONATE, POOR SHIBE NEEDS DOGES - YouTube
12:13 dexX7 >_<
12:15 dexX7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd4bqmP_460 470.000 views ;)
12:15 ozbot Doge Adventure - YouTube
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC
12:26 kakobrekla mike_c, not new, assbot is merging trades and echoing out each minute if sum from a symbol in that minute is over 0.1 btc
12:27 mike_c ah, thanks
12:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.26039191 = 3.1247 BTC [-] {4}
12:28 kakobrekla sub 0.1 per minute traffic is on -assets-trades
12:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.05 = 0.8 BTC
12:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 340 @ 0.001 = 0.34 BTC
12:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 11574 @ 0.001 = 11.574 BTC {2}
12:39 asciilifeform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Gogulski
12:39 ozbot Mike Gogulski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC
~ 17 minutes ~
12:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.256001 BTC [-]
13:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6463 @ 0.00089733 = 5.7994 BTC [-]
13:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 9 @ 0.02644999 = 0.238 BTC [+]
13:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 11 @ 0.0905 = 0.9955 BTC [-]
13:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36298 @ 0.00089617 = 32.5292 BTC [-] {4}
13:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.00089459 = 4.6134 BTC [-]
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1260 @ 0.001 = 1.26 BTC {2}
13:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00089733 = 9.8706 BTC [+]
13:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.25150228 = 2.7665 BTC [-] {5}
13:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
13:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.05 = 5 BTC
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05 = 0.4 BTC
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00089424 = 15.8728 BTC [-] {3}
14:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC
14:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00089733 = 6.73 BTC [+]
14:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3990 @ 0.001 = 3.99 BTC
14:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.14418539 = 2.8837 BTC [+] {5}
14:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.14063 = 1.4063 BTC [-] {4}
14:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7925 @ 0.00089733 = 7.1113 BTC [+]
14:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00255888 = 0.2968 BTC [-] {4}
14:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12407 @ 0.00089937 = 11.1585 BTC [+] {2}
14:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05 = 0.5 BTC
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 498 @ 0.001 = 0.498 BTC
14:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25000001 = 0.5 BTC [+]
~ 20 minutes ~
15:18 KRS|Gotchawallet ow my bitcoins..make the selling stop.
15:20 KRS|Gotchawallet i have not seen such destruction of wealth since 1970s Jimmy Carter era Washington DC, USA.
15:23 the20year https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg3953236#msg3953236
15:23 ozbot [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process
15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7360 @ 0.0008976 = 6.6063 BTC [-] {2}
15:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 828 @ 0.00275702 = 2.2828 BTC [-] {20}
15:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1172 @ 0.00269828 = 3.1624 BTC [-] {3}
15:28 pankkake isn't "gone" the hollywood word to avoid saying dead?
15:29 pankkake wonder what is the avoidance here
15:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2921 @ 0.00263437 = 7.695 BTC [-] {16}
15:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4079 @ 0.00250687 = 10.2255 BTC [-] {10}
15:32 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00249905 = 1.2445 BTC [-] {5}
15:32 mike_c ^ nice. neobee made a great decision to get involved in this.
15:32 pankkake "Going on HavelockInvestments.com right now to sell half my Neo & Bee shares. Watch the price go down." guy was the biggest cheerleader a few hours ago
15:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00214749 = 0.6442 BTC [-] {7}
15:33 pankkake lol
15:33 pankkake I can have cheap shares!
15:33 ThickAsThieves good thing you sold at the top!
15:34 ThickAsThieves making money by mistake
15:34 ThickAsThieves the bitcoin way
15:34 pankkake a few satoshi yay
15:34 KRS- haha ThickAsThieves
15:34 pankkake anyway if I rebuy it will be at the lmb thing so it actually gets to the company
15:34 ThickAsThieves though i dont see how this news has any effect on Neo
15:35 KRS- i was seeing funny shit with huge buy and sells when this started
15:35 pankkake indeed… makes no sense
15:35 KRS- im thinking india is about to get on board and someone playing games with the price
15:35 mike_c really? neo "gets involved", communication is terrible, balances "adjusted". not a great reflection.
15:36 pankkake well the only implication is that neo wastes its time
15:36 pankkake (which is actually a big deal, time is worth a lot of btc, especially in Bitcoin!)
15:37 ThickAsThieves lol
15:37 pankkake I wouldn't have sold at loss because of the "news"
15:37 KRS- here we are..lets see if it breaks down
15:37 mike_c plus his posts on the forum have not inspired confidence.
15:37 ThickAsThieves that'll change
15:38 mike_c it may change, but it was still revealing character-wise.
15:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32113 @ 0.00089481 = 28.735 BTC [-] {5}
15:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
15:50 the20year Is mcxnow completely down?
15:50 ThickAsThieves was it ever really up?
15:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00264999 = 0.265 BTC [+] {3}
15:52 pankkake I can log on
~ 18 minutes ~
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00281944 = 0.2819 BTC [+] {5}
16:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 30000 @ 0.001 = 30 BTC
16:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 572 @ 0.00257774 = 1.4745 BTC [-] {11}
16:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 187 @ 0.00235002 = 0.4395 BTC [-] {4}
16:21 Kleeck This was good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdkGA_rgHRY
16:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC
16:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 250 @ 0.001 = 0.25 BTC
16:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25765332 = 0.773 BTC [+] {2}
16:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.001 = 0.2 BTC
16:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00229976 = 0.1311 BTC [+] {3}
16:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00248885 = 0.1095 BTC [+] {4}
16:43 pigeons mpex please such doge options
16:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00089645 = 6.2752 BTC [+]
16:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC
16:45 benkay hey options trades aren't announce in here?
16:45 benkay announced*
16:47 pigeons they aren't -assets
16:47 pigeons no they used to be announced though
16:47 pigeons mabe just low volume lately
16:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0911 = 0.3644 BTC [+]
16:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3203 @ 0.001 = 3.203 BTC
16:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 10000 @ 0.001 = 10 BTC
16:51 benkay not an asset? semantics or...
16:51 benkay ;;ticker
16:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 27297 @ 0.001 = 27.297 BTC {3}
16:54 ThickAsThieves ;;rip
16:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 20000 @ 0.001 = 20 BTC
16:55 mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2013#413679
16:55 ozbot #bitcoin-assets log
16:55 mike_c few days ago they were
16:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00258999 = 0.158 BTC [+] {2}
16:55 mike_c looking on mpex, no volume since then.
16:56 benkay whoa also where did gribble go?
~ 21 minutes ~
17:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.25915199 = 1.2958 BTC [+] {3}
17:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27449998 BTC [+]
17:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.001 = 1 BTC
17:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 429 @ 0.00259533 = 1.1134 BTC [-] {11}
17:33 benkay .d
17:33 ozbot 908350862.43702 | Next Diff in 1464 blocks | Estimated Change: 14.6310% in 8d 16h 8m 0s
17:34 kanzure assbot: http://httpbin.org/get
17:34 kanzure assbot: http://requestb.in/sy3ipnsy
17:34 kanzure WeeChat/0.4.2
17:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00089645 = 2.9771 BTC [+]
17:35 kanzure it is someone's irc client? hah
17:37 asciilifeform high-quality flamefest: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/urbit-dev/PvXo1t7uNrY/RL7DLpg1v9QJ
17:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00089729 = 7.4475 BTC [+] {2}
17:40 benkay how's the cardano coming along?
17:41 asciilifeform benkay: rng done.
17:43 benkay super. standalone?
17:44 asciilifeform it's a separate board, yes
17:44 asciilifeform not standalone in the sense of a separate product, though
17:45 benkay why not?
17:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1050 @ 0.0008974 = 0.9423 BTC [+]
17:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0008974 = 6.2818 BTC [+] {2}
17:51 asciilifeform might be sold separately at some point; ask mp if you're impatient.
17:54 jurov ETA to finished Cardano?
17:54 asciilifeform depends largely on the factory.
17:54 asciilifeform that's all I'll say on the subject
17:55 asciilifeform why so impatient.
17:55 asciilifeform don't get me wrong, I'm glad somebody wants to buy these things
17:55 jurov mostly curious, only a bit impatient
17:56 asciilifeform see, building a quality 'security product' (that rare bird!) involves quite a bit of work that never shows up in the finished piece.
17:56 asciilifeform mostly investigations into 'what not to do.'
17:56 asciilifeform with actual experiments in subversion; a kind of 'chess against yourself.'
17:57 benkay so happy to have you on the case, asciilifeform
17:57 jurov i know (although only in software)
17:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7832 @ 0.00089845 = 7.0367 BTC [+] {2}
17:58 asciilifeform the final result will likely strike people as 'obvious' and 'wtf did he do for this long.'
17:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2740 @ 0.0008996 = 2.4649 BTC [+]
17:58 asciilifeform but such is life.
17:58 jurov that's why i hope there will be some marketing in contemporary sense
17:58 jurov not just mpoe-pr
17:59 Apocalyptic heh
17:59 asciilifeform mp is the marketing sorcerer, send all related questions/ideas his way.
17:59 jurov i know :)
18:00 jurov but since you deflect all questions ...:)
18:00 jurov oh, and will it run urbit?
18:00 Apocalyptic urbit is dead I heard
18:01 asciilifeform dead?
18:01 jurov cuz you sold it
18:01 jurov hahahaha
18:01 asciilifeform haha
18:01 asciilifeform would be tricky to sell any were it dead...
18:04 asciilifeform in all seriousness, all you need to use cardano is some machine which can read/write usb mass storage.
18:05 asciilifeform and a CR2450 battery.
18:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC
18:05 asciilifeform (the latter: included.)
18:06 asciilifeform since you folks love hints and tidbits: the rng operates exclusively off the battery.
18:06 asciilifeform why? 'exercise for the alert reader.'
18:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.05 = 0.45 BTC
18:08 jurov using nsa-compliant-rigged bateries?
18:08 asciilifeform jurov: feel free to install one!
18:09 asciilifeform sadly, i'm all out.
18:09 asciilifeform gotta ask mein fuhrer for more.
18:10 jurov yes, that should be one bullet point "Requires NSA certified battery"
18:10 asciilifeform in all seriousness, i won't be surprised if folks start x-raying batteries before this is over.
18:12 asciilifeform consider the famous israeli cell phone battery.
18:12 asciilifeform (the one they slip to people who are to part with their heads.)
18:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC
18:13 jurov interesting, have you sauce handy?
18:15 asciilifeform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahya_Ayyash
18:15 ozbot Yahya Ayyash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:18 jurov thx. it isn't said if it was in the battery
18:18 asciilifeform most likely spot.
18:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5248 @ 0.0008996 = 4.7211 BTC [+]
18:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4222 @ 0.00089645 = 3.7848 BTC [-]
18:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8578 @ 0.00089504 = 7.6777 BTC [-] {2}
18:33 nubbins` hm
18:33 nubbins` ;;echo hi
18:34 benkay pretty sure gribble ain't around today mang
18:34 nubbins` yeah, just noticed an "altgribble" in -otc
18:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1380 @ 0.001 = 1.38 BTC
18:36 nubbins` ;;ident nubbins`
18:36 nubbins` ah, but not in here!
18:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.001 = 0.3 BTC
19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46750 @ 0.00089411 = 41.7996 BTC [-] {6}
19:01 ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBbLpxLglz0#t=743
19:01 ozbot SUPER MONEY The REVOLUTION in Digital Currency has arrived! THIS is BITCOIN 2.0! - YouTube
19:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 119 @ 0.001 = 0.119 BTC
19:01 Apocalyptic TAT, really ?
19:06 CheckDavid How is the market cap of bitcoin evaluated?
19:06 CheckDavid Is it market price * n of mined coins?
19:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2864 @ 0.0008928 = 2.557 BTC [-]
19:09 pankkake CheckDavid: yes. probably usually doesn't account for "lost" coins
19:10 CheckDavid Yeah, that was the point I was trying to get to
19:10 CheckDavid so if the price goes up due to lost coins
19:10 CheckDavid it looks like the market cap is going up
19:10 CheckDavid When it really isn't
19:10 CheckDavid Am i correct in my rationale?
19:10 pankkake yes
19:10 CheckDavid I see.
19:10 CheckDavid It's very tricky
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.0008928 = 19.0166 BTC [-]
19:17 CheckDavid it's interesting how bitcoins end up being lost no matter what
19:22 pankkake so supermoney is basically ripple?
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5659 @ 0.00008018 = 0.4537 BTC [-] {9}
19:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00007188 = 1.4376 BTC [-] {11}
19:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 36139 @ 0.00007003 = 2.5308 BTC [-] {4}
19:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14341 @ 0.00007003 = 1.0043 BTC [-]
19:27 KRS- heh
19:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00089557 = 15.4934 BTC [+]
19:34 benkay asciilifeform: u crazy man
19:34 benkay "complete electronic redesign of the past 25 years"
19:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.0008974 = 1.7499 BTC [+] {2}
~ 21 minutes ~
20:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 710 @ 0.00281999 = 2.0022 BTC [+] {3}
20:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00256298 = 0.2512 BTC [-] {3}
20:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 40 @ 0.00275 = 0.11 BTC [-]
~ 22 minutes ~
20:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43080 @ 0.00090046 = 38.7918 BTC [+] {4}
20:38 pankkake ;;estimate
20:38 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 1045154958.02 based on data since last change | 1061470067.62 based on data for last three days
20:41 benkay ;;market
20:41 gribble Error: "market" is not a valid command.
20:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00090085 = 1.5314 BTC [+]
20:41 benkay ;;ticker --market --btcavg
20:41 gribble BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 883.07, Best ask: 886.01, Bid-ask spread: 2.94000, Last trade: 884.75, 24 hour volume: 54501.6, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 894.08
20:41 benkay ;;ticker --market bitstamp
20:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 870.0, Best ask: 872.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 872.0, 24 hour volume: 14577.80143116, 24 hour low: 850.0, 24 hour high: 920.42, 24 hour vwap: 882.899271422
20:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00090177 = 9.7391 BTC [+] {2}
~ 18 minutes ~
21:10 thestringpuller ;;ticker
21:10 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 926.5, Best ask: 929.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.49999, Last trade: 926.1, 24 hour volume: 16138.33096512, 24 hour low: 882.15864, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 931.88021
21:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00090085 = 0.9009 BTC [-]
~ 22 minutes ~
21:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 6000 @ 0.001 = 6 BTC
21:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00281999 = 0.1551 BTC [+]
21:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 324 @ 0.00281999 = 0.9137 BTC [+] {2}
21:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00090191 = 19.2107 BTC [+] {3}
21:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00281999 = 0.282 BTC [+] {2}
~ 21 minutes ~
22:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 394 @ 0.000519 = 0.2045 BTC [-]
22:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 185 @ 0.001 = 0.185 BTC
22:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00089902 = 33.3986 BTC [-] {3}
22:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17443 @ 0.00089834 = 15.6697 BTC [-]
22:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00089573 = 2.9559 BTC [-] {2}
22:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20733 @ 0.0008929 = 18.5125 BTC [-] {4}
~ 21 minutes ~
22:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3957 @ 0.00089665 = 3.548 BTC [+]
23:10 mircea_popescu egypt apparently just ipo'd snow.
23:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4846 @ 0.00090249 = 4.3735 BTC [+]
23:11 Apocalyptic heh
23:12 Apocalyptic by the way mircea, i just read one of the worst article about "why is bitcoin gonna fail" from french dudes who are otherwise sensible
23:12 Apocalyptic their main point is "when central banks decide playground is over, they'll shutdown exchanges, so value will plumet, so lulz"
23:14 Apocalyptic i guess you have 1 more name to add to your infamous list
23:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 220 @ 0.00197381 = 0.4342 BTC [-] {5}
23:22 Apocalyptic what's even more interesting is that the guy claims to have 9 years of financial experience
23:22 Apocalyptic so he obviously knows his shit
23:23 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic you can tell them that when i decide playground is over, i'll just shut down these4 alleged "central banks"
23:23 mircea_popescu and he can use his 9 years of financial experience to get a job flipping burgers.
23:24 Apocalyptic http://reflets.info/le-saviez-vous-le-bitcoin-va-disparaitre/
23:24 Apocalyptic if you feel like translating
23:24 Apocalyptic it's really short and dissapointing
23:25 Apocalyptic pankkake, ^^
23:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00090291 = 18.1485 BTC [+] {2}
23:29 Namworld I don't need to, I can just read that...
23:32 mircea_popescu i can read french just fine
23:34 Namworld Ignorance, topped with ignorance sauce
23:34 Apocalyptic nice, it's kinda similar to romanian in some way
23:34 Apocalyptic Namworld, pretty much, have you read the comments also ?
23:34 Namworld Nope
23:34 Apocalyptic guy's acting like he has it all figured out
23:34 Apocalyptic and wtf do these noobs want
23:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00282 = 0.2256 BTC [+]
23:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00280309 = 0.1177 BTC [-] {2}
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