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00:00 mircea_popescu twist : badbios is written in .net
00:03 nubbins` that'd be an impressive feat
00:03 nubbins` you'd get at least a few whitepapers out of it
00:04 mircea_popescu further twist : http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-claims-china-bugged-tea-kettles-2013-10
00:04 mircea_popescu i think my cock might be bugged
00:04 mircea_popescu it buggers womenz all teh time.
00:05 mircea_popescu even further twist : "its payment unit PayPal may one day incorporate BitCoin." where are you skinnavaj guy.
00:06 nubbins` ltc: to the hill!
00:06 mircea_popescu (sauce : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-03/ebay-expands-accepted-digital-currencies-says-paypal-may-one-day-incorporate-bitcoin )
00:06 mircea_popescu ahahaah to the hill
00:07 KRS1 Its Fontas http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/37873404.jpg
00:07 mircea_popescu too good.
00:07 pankkake I have a hard time imagining ebay adopting bitcoin
00:08 mircea_popescu i don't have a hard time imagining why they'd want to tho.
00:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00084278 = 10.5769 BTC [-] {2}
00:08 nubbins` breaking news: ebay to acquire bitcoin
00:09 pankkake the make a lot through paypal fees, or sneaky currency conversion fees
00:09 nubbins` they make a lot through ebay fees
00:09 nubbins` 10%!
00:09 pankkake really it's 10% now?
00:09 nubbins` yes man
00:09 mircea_popescu they'd make a helluva lot more if they could just take a file out of dpr's book and tell the govt to suck on an onion./
00:09 nubbins` ebay+pp = 13%
00:09 pankkake it's becoming worse and worse
00:09 pankkake wow
00:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00084145 = 8.5828 BTC [-]
00:09 nubbins` that's why everything is so goddamn expensive on ebay
00:10 mircea_popescu wait, so actually the silkroad charged less than ebay ?!
00:10 pankkake my last big sales were in the 5% range or less, but that was years ago
00:10 nubbins` i think SR was a straight-up 10?
00:10 mircea_popescu maybe i completely misunderstood the business model there.
00:10 mircea_popescu it wasn't for drugs.
00:10 nubbins` although if you wanna be fair you'd have to include exchange fees
00:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.0076024 = 0.707 BTC [-]
00:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 0.06 = 0.66 BTC [+]
00:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.05989999 = 0.2396 BTC [-]
00:25 benkay huh. so when does the ebay for bitcoin happen, eh mp?
00:27 mircea_popescu i dunno. i been crowing about how it'd be a good idea for years.
00:27 mircea_popescu that bitmit thing isn't going anywhere.
00:27 mircea_popescu but where to find the people to do it...
00:28 pankkake I've been meaning to write it but my productivity is close to zero these last few months
00:28 pankkake mostly due to frustrations with bitmit
00:28 pankkake well, if I do something, that will be it
00:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5229 @ 0.00083969 = 4.3907 BTC [-]
00:31 pankkake their thread is full of disgruntled sellers, certainly not what you'd want
00:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.002779 = 0.1779 BTC [+]
00:36 benkay pankkake u ams dev, unless I misremember
00:36 benkay (plz for to correct)
00:36 pankkake ams?
00:37 pankkake I'm a developer, mostly worked for web startups
00:39 benkay preferred stack?
00:39 pankkake Python, where I use many libs rather than a framework
00:40 pankkake though I previously used Django
00:40 benkay ugh
00:40 benkay django is like a ufo
00:40 benkay "incant this triangular shaped widget into this triangular shaped hole and photos will appear over there"
00:40 pankkake it's easy to do simple stuff but hard to do complex stuff
00:40 pankkake haha
00:40 benkay fn tell me about it
00:41 benkay when i get back from le argent i gotta defuck this django stack
00:41 benkay and then make it profitable
00:42 pankkake I haven't kept up with the latest frameworks
00:42 benkay allow me to express my disgust with python
00:42 pankkake though I use most libs of the Pyramids stack
00:42 benkay DISGUST
00:42 pankkake what do you use?
00:42 benkay clojure
00:42 pankkake :D
00:42 benkay although python because clients
00:43 benkay hm.
00:43 benkay bitcoin ebay?
00:43 benkay in lisp?
00:45 benkay come on pankkake
00:45 mircea_popescu it's not a matter of platform or coding even.
00:46 mircea_popescu when i say someone to do it i mean someone with a decade's worth of experience in a relevant position.
00:46 mircea_popescu area manager for a major fcmg retailer, for instance.
00:46 pankkake there's more than doing an ebay though. there is a need for easy small shops (like bigcartel.com)
00:47 pankkake fcmg?
00:47 benkay i would love to build a thing under someone with a decade's domain experience
00:47 benkay i also want to work with tools that i enjoy
00:48 benkay (as an aside: do you know how hard it is to find business-oriented mentors in america?)
00:48 nubbins` bigcartel is beta-ing direct credit card payments right now
00:48 nubbins` i got an email about it the other day
00:48 nubbins` cutting paypal outta the loop!
00:48 pankkake about time
00:48 nubbins` nod
00:48 benkay (the best we get are advertising/strategy bros who have accidentally fallen into tech)
00:49 pankkake hm bandcamp still uses paypal?
00:49 nubbins` afaik
00:50 nubbins` now, both allowed you to pay with a cc without having a paypal account
00:50 nubbins` but still.
00:51 mircea_popescu benkay myeah.
00:51 mircea_popescu pankkake fast moving consumer goods. like sodas, tampons, whatever.
00:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0076025 = 0.2585 BTC [+]
01:01 nubbins` speedboats
01:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00083969 = 6.3816 BTC [-]
01:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
01:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.002779 = 0.5558 BTC [+]
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01:33 benkay ohai luke
01:33 benkay how are those quantum bitcoins coming, eh?
01:34 benkay Luke-Jr: ping
01:34 Luke-Jr …
01:36 benkay noosphere?
01:37 benkay oh scuse me noospheer
01:39 benkay Luke-Jr: weren't you involved with that operation?
01:40 Luke-Jr only if they get something working
01:40 Luke-Jr then I'll add support to BFGMiner
01:41 Luke-Jr I'm skeptical it'll get that far.
01:43 Luke-Jr especially when the main guy behind it is going around demanding proof GPUs can't simulate ASICs..
01:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [+]
01:56 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.869 BTC [+]
01:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8699 = 1.7398 BTC [+]
02:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00083969 = 8.6488 BTC [-]
02:19 mircea_popescu lol such a failpile.
02:19 mircea_popescu simulate asics in gpus simulated in pressure cookers simulated in one guy's mind.
02:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [-]
02:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0076016 = 0.7982 BTC [-] {3}
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02:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 612 @ 0.00109498 = 0.6701 BTC [+]
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03:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8699999 BTC [+]
03:14 jurov pankkake: my impression is as soon as one wants javascript interactive bling, is in for serious butthurt
03:14 jurov regardless of framework
03:16 jurov it's like windows api, but developed by multiple competing entities
03:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00278 = 0.278 BTC [+]
03:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 450 @ 0.00109498 = 0.4927 BTC [+]
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03:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8301 BTC [-]
03:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00788039 = 0.8274 BTC [+] {4}
03:55 mircea_popescu so mike_c, it may please you to find that not only are you in the mpex faq now, but process of arguing about it ended a coupla hours ago with my complete capitulation
03:55 mircea_popescu as a result mpex now returns executed collateral immediately upon execution.
03:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00083969 = 2.8549 BTC [-]
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04:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 498 @ 0.00109102 = 0.5433 BTC [-] {3}
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05:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00278 = 0.2863 BTC [+]
05:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 558 @ 0.00109498 = 0.611 BTC [+] {2}
05:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 0.06 = 0.9 BTC [+]
05:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00083436 = 11.097 BTC [-]
05:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.0078889 = 0.6942 BTC [+]
05:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 13 @ 0.0078889 = 0.1026 BTC [+] {2}
05:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00082588 = 16.146 BTC [-]
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.12748333 = 0.7649 BTC [+] {2}
05:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.0078871 = 0.6941 BTC [-]
05:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]
05:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00788839 = 0.6942 BTC [+] {2}
05:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 204 @ 0.00789226 = 1.61 BTC [+] {5}
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06:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 421 @ 0.00278 = 1.1704 BTC [+]
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06:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5941 @ 0.00082876 = 4.9237 BTC [+]
06:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.85 = 3.4 BTC [+]
07:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.83000044 = 9.13 BTC [-] {3}
07:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.8255716 = 1.6511 BTC [-] {2}
07:06 jurov <mircea_popescu> as a result mpex now returns executed collateral immediately upon execution.<<< immediately on opex you mean? or it's about futures?
07:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 375 @ 0.00278135 = 1.043 BTC [+] {2}
07:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1073 @ 0.00278769 = 2.9912 BTC [+]
07:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 837 @ 0.00278769 = 2.3333 BTC [+]
07:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.8 = 12.8 BTC [-] {3}
07:26 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 238 @ 0.00277874 = 0.6613 BTC [-] {2}
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11967 @ 0.00082588 = 9.8833 BTC [-]
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07:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.75916668 = 2.2775 BTC [-] {2}
08:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share
08:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00082886 = 7.2111 BTC [+] {2}
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08:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 37 @ 0.0599135 = 2.2168 BTC [-] {2}
08:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 21 @ 0.05989999 = 1.2579 BTC [-]
08:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 95 @ 0.05989999 = 5.6905 BTC [-]
08:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7016 @ 0.00082984 = 5.8222 BTC [+] {2}
08:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 127 @ 0.00780004 = 0.9906 BTC [+] {3}
08:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0078899 = 0.7022 BTC [+]
08:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 54 @ 0.05803898 = 3.1341 BTC [-] {3}
09:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 131 @ 0.0078 = 1.0218 BTC [-]
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09:21 kleeck Heh. Just got a notification email from the my State's Healthcare Association regarind CryptoLocker.
09:22 kleeck My IronPort has been stripping zipped .exe files for a month now., all from DHL, UPS, and FedEx. Thanks for the headsup...
09:22 topace haha
09:22 topace thats a pretty shitty virus
09:23 topace bringing a lot of new people to bitcoin
09:23 topace in a bad way
09:23 topace i had one guy ask me how i hadnt been arrested yet becuase he knew my address and phone number he was going to report me to the police
09:23 topace it took me half an hour to explain to him, i only buy and sell bitcoins,. i have nothing to do with cryptolocker
09:25 kleeck lol
09:25 kleeck Drugs and Viruses, the backbone of BTC>
09:26 kleeck :P
09:26 kleeck It makes me sad that this virus is actually doing damage to any medium sized businesses.
09:26 kleeck First off, your users shouldn't be able to get a zipped exe, or an exe, at all.
09:27 kleeck At least via e-mail.
09:27 kleeck Second, why don't you have backups?!
09:28 topace one guy i talked to said it infected their backup system from the desktop it was clicked on
09:28 topace i tried to explain to him how a moutned network drive != backup
09:28 kleeck What?
09:28 topace useless
09:28 kleeck His backup was a network share?
09:28 topace yea
09:28 kleeck wtf
09:28 topace which, kinda makes sense
09:28 kleeck who are these clowns?
09:28 topace it was a NAS
09:28 topace and as a clueless IT person, thats probabyl what i would do too
09:29 kleeck So, this wasn't a system admin, then?
09:29 topace most of these companies dont have sysadmins
09:29 topace they have "a guy that knows a littlbe bit about computers"
09:29 topace or
09:29 kleeck And uses network shares as a backup solution..
09:29 topace "a guy that knows a guy that knows how to use computers"
09:30 kleeck You can use a NAS, but you don't SHARE the backup partition.
09:30 topace mostly ive been contacted by small businesses.. 3-10 employees
09:30 kleeck I see.
09:30 topace 3-5 per week the past few weeks
09:30 kleeck Do you do support, then?
09:30 topace "hi, i'd like to buy exactly 2.00000000 bitcoins, how do i do it? can i give you my creditcard number?"
09:30 kleeck Oh no...
09:30 topace == surefire cryptolocker victim
09:31 kleeck That sucks, man.
09:31 kleeck Makes me sad.
09:31 topace i run www.canadianbitcoins.com
09:31 kleeck I see.
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.760217 = 4.5613 BTC [+] {4}
09:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 151 @ 0.00769506 = 1.162 BTC [-] {2}
09:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 0.0580001 = 0.348 BTC [-]
09:46 jcpham http://pandodaily.com/2013/11/04/startup-snake-oil-scamming-early-stage-entrepreneurs/
09:46 ozbot Startup snake oil: scamming early stage entrepreneurs | PandoDaily
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00277999 = 0.1195 BTC [+]
09:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19883 @ 0.00082375 = 16.3786 BTC [-] {2}
09:54 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
09:54 kleeck .d
09:54 ozbot 390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 209 blocks | Estimated Change: 31.8184% in 0d 23h 40m 50s
09:54 nubbins` gribs is slow
09:54 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 234.63654, vol: 18870.86799441 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.97, vol: 19816.55391138 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 215.996, vol: 12618.76417 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 213.98, vol: 386.26816174 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 228.25050156, vol: 33815.64000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 225.636171552
09:54 nubbins` (!!)
09:54 ThickAsThieves well shit
09:55 nubbins` i know right?
09:55 ThickAsThieves ;;nethash
09:55 gribble 4033928.60985
09:55 ThickAsThieves ;;estimate
09:55 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 515523510.95 based on data since last change | 563524717.975 based on data for last three days
09:56 nubbins` any guesses as to when we'll see a BTC-USD all-time high?
09:56 ThickAsThieves this week
09:57 nubbins` wouldn't surprise me
09:57 ThickAsThieves i thought we'd be pulling back already
09:58 nubbins` nod
09:58 ThickAsThieves i think this ebay news is floating it
09:58 nubbins` i was surprised at the amount of support ~200
09:58 JoeyMe it cant go down can it?
09:58 nubbins` JoeyMe: impossible, re-mortgage your house and put it all in btc
09:58 ThickAsThieves nubbins' is a financial advisor
09:58 JoeyMe no, I meant difficulty
09:58 ThickAsThieves diff can go down
09:58 ThickAsThieves it wont any time soon
09:59 ThickAsThieves but it can
09:59 JoeyMe ok
10:01 nubbins` hm, i wonder
10:02 nubbins` i'd normally be really stressed out about buying btc at 225
10:03 nubbins` but i don't think it would be a bad idea, short-term
10:04 ThickAsThieves it's all a guess at this point
10:04 ThickAsThieves looking at the situation I think many would say it's overpriced
10:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.007695 = 0.9234 BTC [-] {2}
10:04 ThickAsThieves but there's no stopping it from going up more
10:04 ThickAsThieves it will relieve itself eventually
10:05 nubbins` agreed
10:06 nubbins` just a matter of how close you can get your horseshoe to the stake
10:06 bitesak ;;ticker
10:06 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 232.90000, Best ask: 234.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.10000, Last trade: 232.00001, 24 hour volume: 19281.05367985, 24 hour low: 214.89993, 24 hour high: 234.95000, 24 hour vwap: 223.42446
10:06 bitesak thats quite a price for 1 bitcoin
10:07 nubbins` it's quite a price for two, really
10:07 kleeck Yes. I dare say I'm gonig to take some profits now.
10:07 ThickAsThieves $2329000 for a pizza
10:07 nubbins` heh
10:07 kleeck :)
10:07 ThickAsThieves fukn inflation
10:07 bitesak now? it's not even an all time high
10:08 nubbins` can't even imagine what a box of kraft dinner costs ;)
10:08 nubbins` bitesak: greedy!
10:08 kleeck Of course now. Average bought is 60$. It is time.
10:08 nubbins` <-avg $22
10:08 kleeck Well done!
10:08 kleeck I bought my first @ 9$.
10:08 nubbins` better done if i hadn't won and lost several fortunes in that period of time
10:08 kleeck I won't say what I did with those...
10:09 nubbins` my first btc cost $16, and i smoked it
10:09 ThickAsThieves $230 joints
10:09 kleeck I too looked into the eyes of insane profit % and said, "Nay! I will not take you!"
10:09 bitesak I bought me first at39cents and have made many 'wrong' decisions along the way on selling them :)
10:09 ThickAsThieves good stuff i hope
10:09 nubbins` *cough* good enough
10:10 nubbins` anyway, i did some math the other day
10:10 kleeck And now we get to tell our friends all about the premium drugs we've abused.
10:10 nubbins` it turns out that if i had just done nothing with my btc, i'd be in exactly the same financial situation as i am today
10:11 nubbins` which is really the best i could ask for, given how many times i've lost my shirt on poor investments
10:11 kleeck haha
10:11 kleeck I hear you.
10:11 nubbins` losing money makes you learn quickly.
10:12 kleeck Indeed.
10:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.75600008 = 9.072 BTC [-] {4}
10:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.75300001 BTC [-]
10:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1500 @ 0.00762295 = 11.4344 BTC [-] {10}
10:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 519 @ 0.0075985 = 3.9436 BTC [-]
10:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.72227777 = 6.5005 BTC [-] {4}
10:18 mircea_popescu jurov no, options.
10:20 mircea_popescu nubbins` so then no, you wou;dn't be in the same position. knowledge is money.
10:20 ThickAsThieves brain equity
10:20 mircea_popescu fritz machlup ftw
10:20 nubbins` hmm, you've got a point
10:21 nubbins` i'd likely have lost my shirt in some other manner
10:21 nubbins` and i mean, i get shirts wholesale, but they're still not free, ya know!
10:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00081905 = 28.0115 BTC [-]
10:22 mircea_popescu i guess nobody today remembers machlup as the initiator of the "information economy" concept
10:22 ThickAsThieves i read the wiki, i know plenty!
10:22 mircea_popescu aok
10:22 ThickAsThieves hehe, not really
10:22 ThickAsThieves sad he dies 3/10ths into his plan
10:24 nubbins` http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=cotton&months=60
10:24 ozbot Cotton - Daily Price - Commodity Prices - Price Charts, Data, and News - IndexMundi
10:24 nubbins` ^ for a while there, t-shirts REALLY weren't free
10:25 mircea_popescu the price of cotton figures what, 18 cents in the cost fo a tshirt ?
10:26 mircea_popescu http://www.theonion.com/articles/man-who-enjoys-thing-informed-he-is-wrong,7057/
10:26 ozbot Man Who Enjoys Thing Informed He Is Wrong | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
10:28 JoeyMe c
10:28 nubbins` not sure of the exact numbers, but the price of a shirt was roughly 2x today's price when that was happening
10:30 nubbins` hahahahahahahaha @ article
10:35 nubbins` why didn't himmelsbaugh consult an appropriate authority before assuming that he enjoyed the thing?
10:35 nubbins` what an idiot
10:40 mircea_popescu totally.
10:43 mircea_popescu so i'm reading old logs : Jun 21 14:49:17 <mircea_popescu>well it was 1/4 bn earlier thisd year
10:43 mircea_popescu apparently what goes around comes around.
10:46 mircea_popescu http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/irs-to-jail-woman-who-owes-0-in-taxes.html
10:46 ozbot Activist Post: IRS to Jail Woman Who Owes $0 in Taxes, Seeks Jury Nullification
10:46 kleeck How dare she?!
10:50 kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/508/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-500mn-before-xmas/
10:50 kakobrekla hits 200btc
10:50 ozbot BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 500MN before Xmas 2013
10:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.819 = 1.638 BTC [+]
10:51 kakobrekla ;;bc,stats
10:51 gribble Current Blocks: 267926 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 201 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 14 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 515663290.372 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.90722
10:51 kakobrekla aha.
10:52 mircea_popescu crazy shot
10:52 kakobrekla feels like 2011
10:53 mircea_popescu tghen people want btc to go down. well how the fuck.
10:57 ThickAsThieves http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/
10:58 ozbot BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014
10:58 ThickAsThieves where's the 200btc on that one?
10:58 mircea_popescu 1bn doesn't seem so unlikely nao.
10:58 asciilifeform now would be the perfect time for an 'asteroid' event (e.g. somebody gets SATCOIN hasher working.)
10:59 ThickAsThieves very likely
10:59 mircea_popescu what's satcoin ?
10:59 asciilifeform or, anybody still alive knows how to wrangle gallium arsenide logic?
11:00 asciilifeform satcoin: http://jheusser.github.io/2013/02/03/satcoin.html
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11:00 dexX7 people say a sat-solver is useless, because it would only provide an advantage, if sha is broken
11:00 mircea_popescu sat solving my foot.
11:00 asciilifeform dexX7: not necessarily. more efficient mining doesn't need a SAT solution in the general case.
11:01 asciilifeform just as RSA-breaking has not been proven to require fast factoring.
11:01 mircea_popescu maybe i'm rusty, but afaik mining != sha(sha(block+nonce))
11:02 asciilifeform the cookie jar is far too full for somebody not to try an interesting an unorthodox approach to empty it.
11:02 dexX7 i like the idea
11:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081903 = 2.1704 BTC [-]
11:02 asciilifeform but maybe that's like thinking that a sufficiently juicy chunk of rotten meat, placed on the moon, will somehow attract flies.
11:02 dexX7 or let's say the idea of trying something unconventional :)
11:03 mircea_popescu i think the moon simile carries.
11:04 asciilifeform maybe some wealthy joker ought to fund a 'Perimeter Institute' for btc.
11:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 19 @ 0.0552 = 1.0488 BTC [-]
11:07 asciilifeform here's a lead for anybody who wants to play: http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Users/adrianth/ascot/paper/paper.html
11:09 asciilifeform dollars to doughnuts, hypothetical 'superminer' would be an ultimately analog system. with no well-understood explanation for why it works.
11:11 asciilifeform bz-bzzz. where are the other flies on this dusty space rock...
11:12 jurov mh, human brain falls into that definition, too :)
11:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know flies require an atmosphere
11:12 asciilifeform right.
11:12 jurov pity it can do n-th sqare roots better than modulo 32 arithmetic
11:13 asciilifeform hence the pristine meat.
11:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 253 @ 0.001092 = 0.2763 BTC [+]
11:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081905 = 5.9791 BTC [+]
11:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, if I get a parrot that extracts correct nonces out of a bag, i don't have a miner.
11:15 mircea_popescu i have a coincidental parrot.
11:16 mircea_popescu even if i crack 1000 consecutive blocks in half an hour.
11:16 kakobrekla how much for the parrot
11:16 asciilifeform any reason such a beast wouldn't function as a miner?
11:16 mircea_popescu anamazing parrot!
11:16 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform same reason a girl wearing a funny hat doesn't function as the emperess of china.
11:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: think it would wake people up into the dynamic-workfunction heresy?
11:18 mircea_popescu if the shaman heals you he's still no doctor, even should the mage light up a fire he's still no matchstick
11:18 asciilifeform the mage can still burn the village to the ground
11:18 asciilifeform even if he has no idea why his stick-rubbing touched off the flame.
11:18 mircea_popescu but it wouldn't be a flamethrower, it'd just be a lucky freak.
11:18 asciilifeform right
11:19 mircea_popescu so in this sense this isn't a discussion about mining,
11:19 mircea_popescu this is a discussion about what if god gets your wife pregnant.
11:19 asciilifeform it's more a discussion of 'asteroid event.'
11:19 mircea_popescu right.
11:20 mircea_popescu if messiah comes tomorrow riding a box of flaming fans
11:20 mircea_popescu this perhaps will have an impact, let's discuss it :D
11:20 asciilifeform one would have to smoke some serious strange to believe that the concept of workfunction is vulnerable in the general case.
11:20 asciilifeform but it is quite certainly so in the specific instance currently in use.
11:21 asciilifeform all of this reminds me of a story told about General Curtis LeMay
11:22 asciilifeform it is said that he never spat out his enormous cigar, and once appeared with such near a bomber at a fueling pump
11:22 asciilifeform a grunt, risking court martial, asked the general to put out his smoke
11:22 asciilifeform given that the whole shebang 'might explode'
11:22 asciilifeform to which the general replied - 'it wouldn't dare.'
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11:23 asciilifeform the static workfunction is not entirely unlike this cigar.
11:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.815 BTC [-]
11:28 mircea_popescu lol
11:29 mircea_popescu good story.
11:29 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Curtis_LeMay_(USAF).jpg
11:29 mircea_popescu no cigar.
11:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00269 = 0.269 BTC [-]
11:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0552 = 0.2208 BTC [-]
11:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 38 @ 0.0552 = 2.0976 BTC [-]
11:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 240 @ 0.00109498 = 0.2628 BTC [+]
12:01 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-october-2013-statement/
12:01 ozbot BitBet, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
12:02 mircea_popescu bitbet in the red!
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1350 @ 0.00022 = 0.297 BTC [-]
12:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00081903 = 3.5628 BTC [-]
12:21 nubbins` i'm so fucking addled
12:23 nubbins` sick of dealing with subhumans
12:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.375 = 1.5 BTC [-]
12:37 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.1493 = 0.2986 BTC [-]
12:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 41 @ 0.00260848 = 0.1069 BTC [-] {5}
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4959 @ 0.0025356 = 12.574 BTC [-] {7}
12:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0077899 = 0.3116 BTC [+] {2}
12:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5076 @ 0.00081758 = 4.15 BTC [-]
12:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 260 @ 0.00277997 = 0.7228 BTC [+] {2}
12:55 firedrops any new on BFL delivery of 28nm?
12:55 firedrops news*
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13:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 192 @ 0.00758058 = 1.4555 BTC [-] {5}
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 132 @ 0.0073306 = 0.9676 BTC [-] {3}
13:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.73833333 = 4.43 BTC [-] {2}
13:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 100 @ 0.05325297 = 5.3253 BTC [-] {15}
13:25 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.38000005 = 5.7 BTC [-] {2}
13:30 jurov nubbins`: let's discuss art with superhumans instead :DD
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7795 BTC [+]
13:47 nubbins` jurov, i generally don't talk to myself anymore ;)
13:48 nubbins` just having a hard time with some meatheads that are former tenants of mine
13:49 nubbins` they apparently think that not responding to my messages, phone calls, and letters is a reasonable way to deal with a court order requiring them to pay me
13:49 nubbins` so now i have to waste a bunch of time filing paperwork with the sheriff's office
13:50 nubbins` so i can get a garnishee order put on their paycheques
13:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [-]
13:55 ThickAsThieves Coinbase price above Gox right now
13:55 ThickAsThieves .r
13:55 ozbot Gox | Buy: $233.94 Sell: $234.00 Last: $233.30 High: $234.95 Low: $217.30
13:55 ozbot Bitstamp | Buy: $226.76
13:55 ozbot Coinbase | Buy: $235.41
13:55 ozbot Weex | Buy: $66.00 Sell: $156.00 Last: $156.00
13:55 Duffer1 lol what!
13:56 Duffer1 run on gox inc?
13:56 zacm cinbase higher than all
13:56 Duffer1 gox risk premium is gone, no reason to arb there now
13:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109116 = 0.1091 BTC [-] {5}
13:58 ThickAsThieves http://blog.mastercoin.org/2013/11/02/tutorial-test-msc-btc-distributed-exchange-transactions/
13:58 ozbot Tutorial: Test MSC – BTC Distributed Exchange Transactions | Mastercoin Blog
14:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] [PAID] 0.21891588 BTC to 40`316 shares, 543 satoshi per share
14:01 bob____ why is gox risk premium gone? have they started paying out regularly now?
14:04 mod6 ;;bc,stats
14:04 gribble Current Blocks: 267948 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 179 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 21 hours, 28 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 514579156.082 | Estimated Percent Change: 31.6299
14:05 Duffer1 i mean, the price premium that drew arb to gox is no longer there
14:05 Duffer1 since it's price is now roughly equal to another major exchange that doesn't have liquidity problem, though i suppose coinbase isn't a true exchange
14:06 Duffer1 gox has almost no attraction now
14:07 bitesak is coinbase only for the US?
14:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.00742748 = 0.312 BTC [+] {2}
14:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10402 @ 0.00081803 = 8.5091 BTC [+]
14:14 bitesak it's in a US bank making it an issue for most people. and no mtgox do not pay quickly either. Sepa withdraw page now says 4 weeks and more apparently
14:18 KRS-1 Duffer1: I have used coinbase and I too think that.
14:19 bob____ it's not trying to be an exchange though. and it is definitely the safest/easiest way to buy btc in the US.
14:22 Duffer1 gox is way longer than 4 weeks unless you want to pay their usurious 5% expedited withdrawal
14:23 bob____ wow, they are charging for reasonable withdrawal times? amazing that they are getting away with this for so long.
14:23 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
14:24 Duffer1 i think once the 4 weeks passes they send you an extortion email saying you can pay 5% to get expedited, no one is getting reasonable withdrawal time even if you pay the fee
14:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.35285 = 3.5285 BTC [-] {6}
14:26 geofflosophy BingoBoingo around?
14:28 pgp question: what would be possible reasons for txn with 0.001 BTC miner fee not to confirm? 5 blocks has been mined in intervening time. Any ideas?
14:28 bob____ is it a huge tx? (in kb)
14:29 kakobrekla lol i have some dude writing me he is worried his btc account will go into negative.
14:29 kakobrekla hi pgp, you live!
14:29 geofflosophy damn dude, big ass miner fee
14:30 kakobrekla pgp unluck or just big tx in size, not worth.
14:30 pgp Size: 16998 bytes
14:31 kakobrekla dunno but i can tell you a sekrit which will get you any amt confirmed in 1st block free of charge
14:31 pgp BTC withdrawl from Gox... Goxed again!
14:31 pgp ohh?
14:31 Apocalyptic ouch
14:32 kakobrekla what you need is coin control build
14:33 jurov i use to scare ppl with negative balances on coinbr regularly xD
14:33 kakobrekla so you can easily craft your own tx, so what you do is make the the tx from X to Y, which you need and append X to X which you dont need, the apended tx should be like 100 btc or something
14:33 kakobrekla well basically you need to brake 1 bitcoin-day
14:33 kakobrekla with 100 btc is fairly easy
14:33 kakobrekla with 1k evern easier
14:33 pankkake so, inputs.io hacked it seems
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14:34 kakobrekla and you end up with tx which will get confirmed tx in 1st block with 0 fees
14:34 pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg3480730#msg3480730
14:34 ozbot Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game
14:34 kakobrekla i do this all the time, not cause i dont want to pay the fee but for other reasons
14:34 nubbins` ooo
14:35 Apocalyptic pankkake, was waiting for that one to happen
14:35 nubbins` lel @ inputs.io
14:35 nubbins` retards.io
14:35 kakobrekla lol
14:35 kakobrekla was waiting for it to happen really
14:35 kakobrekla shoulda made a bbet
14:35 pankkake I guess https://inputs.io/faq#q4-1 wasn't enough
14:36 nubbins` heh
14:36 nubbins` "how do i know i can trust you?"
14:36 nubbins` "you don't"
14:36 nubbins` "but here's 20 bullet points"
14:36 pankkake I still have my 0.0019 btc!
14:36 nubbins` .....for now!!
14:37 nubbins` xfer over 42 BTC and see what happens
14:37 Apocalyptic you lucky pankkake
14:37 bob____ i don't believe they were hacked. they use google 2fa. that makes it impossible.
14:38 nubbins` bob raises a good counterpoint
14:38 Apocalyptic lol
14:38 Apocalyptic not sure if you're serious
14:38 nubbins` i'm not
14:38 nubbins` bob may be
14:38 bob____ super-serious.
14:38 nubbins` super cereal
14:39 nubbins` ;;ticker -market all
14:39 pankkake I always thought the first issue would be it running a fractional reserve
14:39 gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message)
14:39 nubbins` pankkake: maybe it is, and someone made a big withdrawal
14:39 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
14:39 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 234.68000, vol: 16598.56480709 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 225.65, vol: 25211.51851602 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 218.747, vol: 12357.51717 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 219.00, vol: 506.46552308 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 230.69373804, vol: 35572.04500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 228.316366199
14:40 jurov the site now shows antiphishing bar
14:40 jurov If this bar is missing, triple check that you are on https://inputs.io!
14:40 nubbins` also make sure the "bitcoin foundation silver member" badge is present
14:41 nubbins` and most importantly, ensure the huge splash image properly shows parallax when you wiggle your mouse over it
14:41 nubbins` that means the encryption is on
14:42 jurov oh, and do you know what they replied to my complaint to their homebrewn signature format?
14:42 jurov This is the first time we've heard negative feedback amount the message signing format. It's designed for easier verification for humans, and automated mechanisms obviously won't work correctly. We believe for most use cases the current default is the best option.
14:42 jurov i literally facepalmed
14:43 pankkake lol
14:43 pankkake well I think the real reason is to prevent you from signing actual transactions
14:43 jurov or they found a way how humans can verify ECDSA sigs
14:45 pankkake one human can probably do it: http://www.schneierfacts.com/
14:46 pankkake skinnkavaj: http://bitbet.us/bet/587/litecoin-to-rise-above-4-usd-before-dec/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK
14:46 jurov http://www.schneierfacts.com/facts/180 indeed
14:46 ozbot Bruce Schneier Facts
14:50 pankkake jurov: are you using a python lib to interact with bitcoind?
14:51 jurov sometimes, mostly i interact directly
14:51 pankkake ok. I have trouble deciding where to start
14:52 jurov start by installing bitcoinrpc, cuz normal jsonrpc will convert everything to floats
14:52 pankkake yeah I saw that. and the offical way seems to have it *replace* jsonrpc which is dirty :/
14:52 jurov or some other problem, can remember exactly what gavin cooked there
14:53 jurov no they renamed it to bitcoinrpc recently
14:53 pankkake oh ok, cool
14:55 benkay bob____:
14:55 benkay bob____: the best way to buy coins in the us is through localbitcoins
14:55 jurov or on -otc next door?
14:55 benkay i cannot believe the amount of retardity on display in the acquiring bitcoins in america space
14:55 benkay i have had sad luck with otc
14:56 pankkake it's not especially better in Europe
14:56 benkay went in looking to pick up nearly a whole shitbuck of corns the other day and got no takers
14:56 dub pic.twitter.com/fuhxHwhexd
14:56 bob____ why localbitcoins better? so I can deal with moneypak and cash deposits instead of buying them online with an ach out of my bank account?
14:57 benkay so you can get coins instantly
14:57 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.78066666 = 2.342 BTC [+] {3}
14:58 bob____ hmm.. i'm not in that big a rush. i can get 10 instantly on coinbase.
14:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1500 @ 0.00109498 = 1.6425 BTC [+]
15:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [-]
15:02 kakobrekla how is it not better in yurop pankkake?
15:03 pankkake what are we supposed to use, Bitstamp? to trade… USDs?
15:04 kakobrekla he was speaking of acquiring not trading
15:04 kakobrekla for trading, bit4x is up to something i heard today.
15:05 pankkake still quite annoying, unless you plan to buy right away
15:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10815 @ 0.00081805 = 8.8472 BTC [+] {2}
15:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 805 @ 0.00079 = 0.636 BTC [-]
15:30 ThickAsThieves http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh2yu9S05mssR0wg3e
15:30 ozbot Video: Really? New Anti Rape Underwear [Actual Product]
15:31 nubbins` "tired of getting raped? wear these so your attacker will slash your throat instead!"
15:33 firedrops tired of anal/vaginal rape? put a cork in them and get face-raped instead!
15:34 firedrops Face-Rape, by Mennen.
15:35 pankkake it's cleverly built
15:35 nubbins` yeah
15:35 pankkake but I face rape anyways
15:35 nubbins` o
15:36 nubbins` oh nvm, the video says the attacker will not slash your throa
15:36 nubbins` t
15:37 pankkake I doubt many rapists will go that far
15:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-]
15:38 pankkake what they say is actually true, resisting somewhat will lessen the chance of the rapist to go further
15:38 nubbins` fair enough
15:38 nubbins` i remember being at a bar show once, and there was some skid going around grabbing girls' asses and stuff
15:39 ThickAsThieves so they wore ass-spikes?
15:39 nubbins` my (then-future) wife railroaded him out of the bar
15:39 nubbins` it was glorious
15:41 ThickAsThieves has she considered a career in rape mitigation?
15:41 nubbins` that was neither the first nor the last time i saw her kick a man out of a bar
15:42 ThickAsThieves is she a bartender?
15:42 nubbins` nope, just a patron
15:42 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
15:42 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.44642, Best ask: 235.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.55358, Last trade: 235.00000, 24 hour volume: 16690.25159194, 24 hour low: 220.59997, 24 hour high: 235.00000, 24 hour vwap: 228.40317
15:43 ThickAsThieves remember the crash in April, heh
15:43 ThickAsThieves it finally feels like it was 6mos ago
15:43 firedrops Maybe I'll become a Rape-Companion.. Rent me for %100/hr to prevent rape.
15:43 ThickAsThieves 100% an hour, that's fair
15:43 nubbins` heh
15:43 firedrops lol
15:44 nubbins` i wouldn't go above 50% per hour
15:44 firedrops 100% rape prevention at 99% the cost.
15:44 firedrops 1% discount
15:44 nubbins` although i guess that leaves me at a 50% risk of assault
15:44 ThickAsThieves self-rape doesnt count
15:44 nubbins` ThickAsThieves: crash? what crash? ;|
15:45 benkay standing game and ground game should be taught at age 3
15:45 benkay to both boys and girls, but girls especially
15:46 nubbins` the way you say that, i don't think you've ever tried to teach anything to a 3 year old
15:46 benkay if you don't teach your little ones to defend themselves, injuries they sustain because they're unable to defend themselves should be laid at the parents feet
15:46 benkay ah nubs again with the pedantry. at a young age.
15:47 nubbins` useless
15:47 benkay i think this is the root of the "rape culture" bs
15:47 nubbins` what's a 5 year old gonna do to stop an attacker?
15:47 nubbins` a 10 year old, for that matter?
15:47 benkay how about an 18 year old
15:47 benkay who learned how to grapple ten years ago
15:47 benkay vs one who did not
15:47 nubbins` well, how big are they?
15:48 benkay quit deliberately misunderstanding.
15:48 benkay teach self defense.
15:48 benkay accept that the world is a dangerous place and that children need to know how to kick people in the nuts at the very least
15:48 nubbins` on that, we can agree
15:48 nubbins` i know a badass woman who teaches self defense classes
15:49 nubbins` to young girls
15:49 benkay good on her
15:49 benkay well it's plane o'clock
15:49 nubbins` don't eat the ceviche
15:57 firedrops I can say for sure that teaching anyone under 13 self-defense is useless for self-defense, but great for self-confidence.
15:57 firedrops past that, if they are dedicated, I believe a skilled martial artist teenager could defend against 1-3 attackers (depending on their skill)
15:58 ThickAsThieves inputs.io hacked? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pw46j/someone_just_transferred_0095_from_my_inputsio/
15:58 dub you've got it backwards anyway
15:59 ThickAsThieves http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pw807/inputsio_hacked/
15:59 ozbot inputs.io hacked? : Bitcoin
15:59 dub instead of selling anti rape pants sell rape protection
15:59 nubbins` i dunno, man
15:59 dub rape everyone that refuses to pay
15:59 dub problem solved
15:59 nubbins` 3 attackers
15:59 nubbins` vs one teenager?
16:00 nubbins` this isn't hollywood, i think that's a bit unrealistic
16:00 ThickAsThieves karate kid aint getting raped
16:00 nubbins` especially if either of the attackers is a "big guy"
16:00 bob____ ThickAsThieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2013#368302
16:00 dub depends a lot on the teenager
16:01 nubbins` yep
16:01 nubbins` depends on the teenager being a black belt
16:01 dub no
16:01 dub black belt doesnt acutally mean anything
16:01 dub nor does teenager
16:02 dub some people are fully developed at 13
16:02 ThickAsThieves nor does depends
16:02 nubbins` nor does anything
16:02 dub and blackbelt truely means nothing
16:02 nubbins` anyway, it's a non-solution
16:02 nubbins` unless you're advocating conscription or something
16:03 dub if you've ever watched a real martial artist fight, even a relatively small teenager could be a match for any number of unskilled attackers
16:03 ThickAsThieves It's all over guys, we had a nice run! http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/04/technology/bitcoin-flaw/index.html?iid=HP_LN
16:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00278 = 0.278 BTC [+]
16:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 348 @ 0.00278 = 0.9674 BTC [+] {2}
16:04 nubbins` to the core of the earth!
16:05 kakobrekla >Despite rampant fluctuations in in valuation, the price of bitcoins barely budged after the report was made public.
16:05 kakobrekla lol
16:05 kakobrekla cause its nothing new
16:05 kakobrekla idiots.
16:06 kakobrekla i wonder if next news will be btc is dead cause we figured out it is only virtual!?
16:06 bob____ it's not backed by gold! sell quick.
16:06 nubbins` http://www.theonion.com/articles/us-economy-grinds-to-halt-as-nation-realizes-money,2912/
16:06 ozbot U.S. Economy Grinds To Halt As Nation Realizes Money Just A Symbolic, Mutually Shared Illusion | The
16:07 ThickAsThieves forumites want Ukyo to show the cold and hot wallet addies to prove he has coins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316546.msg3481667#msg3481667
16:07 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.352 = 1.408 BTC [-]
16:08 ThickAsThieves this is what happens when customer service gets out of control
16:09 kakobrekla happens all the time in the idiotworld, err i mean bitcoinworld
16:09 dub its kinda what happens when dumb people make bitcoin exchanges too
16:10 kakobrekla the root problem is dealing with people with less than x btc
16:12 kakobrekla not only they do not bring anything to the table, take take away from it
16:12 kakobrekla they take*
16:12 ThickAsThieves Bitfunder has about 14btc volume in 24 hours
16:12 ThickAsThieves maybe small guys is all that's left?
16:12 nubbins` kako, +1
16:12 nubbins` ran into this problem during my brief stint as an iOS developer
16:13 nubbins` how much support do you give a customer for the 70 cents they gave you?
16:13 dub thats the first problem
16:13 dub only retarded people use ios
16:13 kakobrekla lol
16:13 ThickAsThieves ive been involved in several types of businesses and yes, the poorer clients are generally the most costly
16:13 nubbins` lel good one!
16:13 nubbins` even writing a one-line email costs more than 70 cents of my time
16:13 dub uh
16:14 ThickAsThieves the way you handle it in bitcoin, is have to have enough of those customers that are fans, and answer questions for you
16:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00082132 = 15.564 BTC [+] {2}
16:14 nubbins` fanboy tech support
16:14 nubbins` dub, what do non-retarded people use?
16:15 dub android
16:15 nubbins` oh, you're one of those
16:15 ThickAsThieves android isnt bad now
16:15 dub yeah, one of those pesky unretards
16:15 nubbins` no, i meant one of those "i like x so people who like y are dummies!" people
16:15 nubbins` such a strange reaction
16:16 pankkake "Solving a puzzle gives miners a much higher chance of solving the next one" wat
16:16 nubbins` idgaf what brand of telephone i own
16:16 kakobrekla ThickAsThieves, no the way you handle it is to raise the bar and offer a pro support to those who deserve it
16:16 nubbins` and idgaf what brand you own
16:16 dub neither tbh but when i see you holding an iphone I know you are an idiot
16:16 nubbins` but don't let that stop you from masturbating a logo
16:16 ThickAsThieves 2 levels of support, Pro, and No
16:16 pankkake "There are currently 11.9 billion bitcoins in circulation" :D
16:16 dub its a useful indicator
16:17 kakobrekla and how will you distinguish
16:17 ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/btc-china-beats-mt-gox-bitstamp-become-worlds-1-bitcoin-exchange/
16:17 nubbins` when i see you dealing in absolutes i know you are a retard
16:17 nubbins` so
16:17 nubbins` there's that too
16:17 kakobrekla will you decide on the fly if to reply on support email or not
16:17 kakobrekla or you ignore your customer and hope he gets on the forum
16:17 kakobrekla free fan support
16:17 dub life is too short not to generalise
16:17 kakobrekla is this what we are going for?
16:17 ThickAsThieves i wasnt being serious kako
16:17 nubbins` kakobrekla: my solution was to just stop answering support emails :P
16:17 kakobrekla well shit i cant tell
16:18 nubbins` dub: "life is too short" is a phrase that doesn't belong on irc
16:18 kakobrekla nubbins` yeah i heard you are not in IT anymore.
16:18 nubbins` kakobrekla: nope, good riddance
16:18 ThickAsThieves in practice, my personal dealings with customer service needs have been adaptive
16:18 dub he's an art deal now rite?
16:18 dub dealer*
16:18 ThickAsThieves do what the business situation calls for
16:18 nubbins` i produce the art, i let others deal it
16:19 nubbins` oh and hey! we got our incorporation papers in the mail today
16:19 nubbins` so i guess it's official now
16:20 ThickAsThieves Nubbins Nubs, LLC?
16:20 nubbins` nothing so vulgar
16:20 nubbins` Pink Eye Print Company, Ltd.
16:21 ThickAsThieves cool cool
16:21 nubbins` although that name is still met with revulsion about 30% of the time
16:21 nubbins` "jesus, really? ...well, i'll remember it, at least"
16:25 ThickAsThieves Bitfunder is closing!
16:25 ThickAsThieves https://bitfunder.com/
16:25 Kleeck_ Yup
16:25 dub lol
16:26 nubbins` so i can't join the crowd?
16:26 nubbins` they better change that <title/>
16:27 Kleeck_ I'm sure that's the first on the list for Ukyo.
16:27 ThickAsThieves registrations have been closed for a while anyway i think
16:27 nubbins` #2: chop off genitals, feed to dogs, kill self
16:28 nubbins` ;;ticker --market all
16:28 dub withdrawals have been closed too apparently
16:28 gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 234.37171, vol: 16081.58059177 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 225.33, vol: 26068.56787848 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 218.645, vol: 12103.18559 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 225.5, vol: 7904.52336116 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 220.00, vol: 529.47005912 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 231.19907784, vol: 35245.38900000 | Volume-weighted last average: 228.085716651
16:29 pankkake lol bitfunder
16:29 ThickAsThieves weex withdrawals being broken for a week probly made a lot of people more money
16:30 ThickAsThieves since they probly wanted to sell
16:30 ThickAsThieves :)
16:31 nubbins` public service
16:31 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 432 @ 0.00109006 = 0.4709 BTC [-] {4}
16:33 pankkake bitfunder makes the btctctct closure look professional
16:33 nubbins` i never know where the t's and c's end either D:
16:37 dub I like how in the post after its made perfectly clear that butfunder was a one man show he's refering to himself as buttfunder in the 3rd person
16:39 pankkake I wonder why so many operations rely on one man
16:39 nubbins` buttplunder
16:39 pankkake when you start to have some responsibilities, doesn't it make sense to have at least a backup?
16:39 nubbins` because kids these days can do anything!!
16:39 dub s/man/child
16:39 pankkake like the john k thing
16:39 nubbins` new paradigms, duh
16:40 nubbins` having more than one person operate a complicated business is so 1950s
16:40 dub because unique snowflakes
16:40 nubbins` ^
16:40 nubbins` much more succinct
16:40 pankkake I wonder how much of the "dead man switches" are actually bullshit :p
16:41 ThickAsThieves mine is real!
16:41 dub mom said she would help wind up my business if I dieded
16:41 pankkake well, there is now way to know. but I remember seing it in your contracts (you have most of my bitcoins)
16:41 dub as long as I make my bed
16:41 pankkake haha
16:43 ThickAsThieves appropriately, the dead man's switch is real because TATI was never one person
16:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00726 = 0.2541 BTC [-]
16:45 dub I give havelock a couple of weeks, so just mpex again
16:46 bob____ but havelock just sold.
16:46 jurov did topace indicate any legal trouble?
16:46 dub getting chased out of your country is always a good sign, ask s.dice
16:46 dub lol 'sold'
16:46 bob____ just because the panamanian directors are on the board of 50 companies doesn't mean it's a shell corporation!
16:47 nubbins` heh
16:47 nubbins` i'm still pissed that i'm losing my bitbet re: havelock and usa
16:47 bob____ i'm surprised at that one.
16:48 nubbins` me too
16:48 pankkake lost the bet too, but the outcome certainly is better for me anyway
16:48 dub 'moving to panama' is now a meme
16:49 nubbins` pankkake: heh
16:49 nubbins` win-win!
16:49 kakobrekla 22:25.07 ( ThickAsThieves ) Bitfunder is closing!
16:49 kakobrekla lulz
16:49 pankkake http://www.amazon.com/Moving-Panama-Not-G-Roebuck-ebook/dp/B0080RH9DQ
16:49 ozbot Amazon.com: Moving to Panama - Not for Me eBook: G. Roebuck: Kindle Store
16:50 kakobrekla yeah too bad for that bbet
16:51 nubbins` i still think topace was the one who bet 1 BTC on "no" ;(
16:51 kakobrekla theres only 0.36 on yes though
16:52 nubbins` yeah
16:52 nubbins` me and a couple of other idiots
16:52 kakobrekla nubbins` and the last bet here http://bitbet.us/bet/554/bitfunder-will-close-before-july-of-2014/
16:52 kakobrekla is ukto?
16:53 nubbins` HAHAHAHAHA
16:53 nubbins` probably
16:53 nubbins` mitigating his losses
16:55 Ukto heh, no
16:55 Ukto i dont use the site.
16:55 Ukto well
16:55 Ukto i have posted some bids
16:56 nubbins` you should've, you could have earned like 0.5 btc!
16:56 Ukto but I can say that bid is not mine :P
16:56 Ukto nah, not right.
17:05 havelock sold?
17:06 jurov [\\\]: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/20131101-announcement.php
17:06 nubbins` https://www.havelockinvestments.com/20131101-announcement.php
17:06 nubbins` ooo
17:06 nubbins` too slow
17:07 nubbins` man, they're devouring these sell walls on havelock
17:07 nubbins` i mean virtex
17:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5500 @ 0.00022 = 1.21 BTC [-]
17:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.000823 = 7.4893 BTC [+]
17:14 thanks jurov
17:15 jurov, I wonder who VanCleef is gonna troll now
17:16 dub with any luck he'll suicide for real
17:16 jurov i dunno. #cryptostocks chan is deserted
17:22 lol
17:24 nubbins` #stryptococks
17:25 jurov we desperately need some safety valve spillout channels from -otc and -assets
17:25 this isn't one?
17:25 oh
17:25 heh
17:26 just use #bitcoin
17:26 its full, but idle
17:27 nubbins` your mother's pussy is full, but idle
17:27 nubbins` (sorry)
17:27 dub -trollbox is available
17:29 #bitcointalk
17:29 #bitcointroll
17:29 #got.bit
17:29 kakobrekla #got.tit
17:29 yep
17:29 .bait
17:29 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/170baaf60d0c05188c66a98cb39dd850/tumblr_ml1ec6yEXM1raljz5o1_1280.jpg
17:29 dub #tat.tit
17:29 nope
17:30 .bait
17:30 ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/695945e469edc7d2b7d6a863a8071a97/tumblr_mkps0ztciH1s7svwro1_500.gif
17:30 yep
17:30 dub #gaydad4sons
17:30 dub, looks like you'll be all by yourself.
17:30 dub #nambla etc
17:30 kakobrekla jurov you still think you need another chan of this?
17:31 heh
17:33 jurov kakobrekla hopefully it dilutes a bit
17:34 kakobrekla question, hackputs.io has some revenue stream or not at all?
17:35 bob____ yes, occassionally they steal all their customers money (hehe)
17:35 dub the oxcoin model
17:35 kakobrekla aha not very viable then
17:35 dub er ozcoin
17:35 kakobrekla wasdat?
17:36 pankkake yes, offchain fees. they always charge 0.005 but often use less
17:36 dub "getting hacked"
17:36 kakobrekla a rite.
17:36 VanCleef hello
17:37 VanCleef i believe this has been fufilled
17:37 VanCleef http://bitbet.us/bet/554/bitfunder-will-close-before-july-of-2014/
17:37 ozbot BitBet - BitFunder will close before July of 2014
17:37 pankkake so who are you going to troll now?
17:38 VanCleef well my bitfunder contract is up
17:38 VanCleef trolled that to death
17:38 VanCleef https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg3482565#msg3
17:38 ozbot [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading
17:38 VanCleef plz resolve bet
17:39 jurov VanCleef: they don't resolve bets so quickly, take a pill and calm down
17:40 VanCleef no probs i'm not stressing
17:41 VanCleef just letting bitbet know
17:41 b0n1 why did bitfunder close?
17:41 dub it got AIDS
17:41 kakobrekla and stingrays
17:42 jurov yea, it got IDs
17:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 17 @ 0.0072599 = 0.1234 BTC [-]
17:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 67 @ 0.007254 = 0.486 BTC [-]
17:45 bob____ jurov, any early signals on the lower coinbr fees? is the world beating down your door?
17:45 jurov so far mostly namworld's passthrough survivors
17:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.731 BTC [-]
17:46 bob____ a decent amount of them keep the funds with you?
17:46 jurov you mean the assets, yes
17:47 Namworld coinbr might get more business soon
17:47 bob____ that's good to hear. more potential volume for mpex.
17:47 Namworld For other reasons not yet to be disclosed
17:47 bob____ obviously you are talking about the upcoming logo redesign. we already know about it.
17:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.731 BTC [-]
17:48 Namworld No...
17:48 jurov of course. and transfers/options/notification functions are also in pipeline
17:49 Namworld I wasn't talking about that either
17:49 dub what about a funding round to produce a coinbr t-shirt
17:49 jurov rly, you want some?
17:50 jurov and mugs! i shall ask eskimobob to make coinbr and mpex mugs :DDDD
17:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73005 = 1.4601 BTC [-] {2}
17:51 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [-]
17:51 jurov but such exclusive stuff is reserved for bildercoin meetings in timisoara, you can now register at 50% discount ;)
17:51 kakobrekla did ya vip up yet?
17:52 bob____ i hear the bitcoin bubble has caused mass inflation in timisoara
18:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.72200033 = 2.166 BTC [-] {3}
18:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.721001 = 3.605 BTC [-]
18:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 744 @ 0.00700328 = 5.2104 BTC [-] {7}
18:08 jurov Just applied as vip.
18:16 kakobrekla aha its cheaper now
18:17 kakobrekla i want 2 bottles of champagne now
18:19 kakobrekla and one should be red.
18:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00109001 = 0.327 BTC [-]
18:25 pankkake http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-04/twitters-pre-ipo-euphoria-so-deja-book thank god for regulated security exchanges!
18:25 ozbot Twitter's Pre-IPO Euphoria: So Deja Book | Zero Hedge
18:34 pankkake http://youtu.be/A3BHujm3cpY
18:34 ozbot NEWS ANCHOR COMPLETELY LOSES IT FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE REASON EVER - YouTube
18:37 kakobrekla http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=3d
18:37 ozbot Bitcoinity.org
18:37 kakobrekla china will grow larger
18:38 ThickAsThieves this Google doodle is the most distracting ever
18:39 ThickAsThieves i usually barely notice them
18:41 jurov btchina still without fees?
18:41 Apocalyptic would like to know as well
18:45 bob____ seems to indicate its 0 fee..
18:45 bob____ https://vip.btcchina.com/about/index/page/fee
18:46 kakobrekla nice translations lol
18:46 saulimus yeah, real professional
18:47 kakobrekla im skeptical they have 1/3 of the volume
18:49 Jere_Jones pankkake: Awesome youtube link!
18:50 pankkake one of the women say "leader of the free world". lel
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109001 = 0.109 BTC [-]
18:58 Namworld My heater's plug was almost on fire... Noticed it was corroded, sanded it, no more problems. I don't want to freeze, but a fire is a bit too much.
19:01 pankkake > not heating yourself with a bitcoin miner
19:03 Namworld I'm no miner
~ 40 minutes ~
19:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 324 @ 0.00109498 = 0.3548 BTC [+]
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]
19:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00685999 = 0.2744 BTC [-]
19:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 23 @ 0.05110001 = 1.1753 BTC [-]
19:51 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
19:51 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.00001, Best ask: 238.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 238.50000, 24 hour volume: 17233.68261545, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 239.02000, 24 hour vwap: 230.84519
19:51 mircea_popescu ;;calc 1160 / 230.8
19:51 gribble 5.0259965338
19:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.722 = 2.888 BTC [-]
19:52 mircea_popescu jurov http://trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition/#comment-95910
19:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.71611442 = 5.0128 BTC [-] {3}
19:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0511 = 0.1022 BTC [-]
~ 20 minutes ~
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3197 @ 0.00082206 = 2.6281 BTC [-]
20:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.0064793 = 0.7775 BTC [-] {2}
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0064799 = 0.81 BTC [+]
20:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 141 @ 0.0511 = 7.2051 BTC [-]
20:20 mircea_popescu: [\\\] <--- VIP attendee ;-)
20:23 mircea_popescu you comin' ? cool.
20:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0064798 = 0.2268 BTC [-]
20:23 mircea_popescu [\\\] gotta make a comment there so you can pay.
20:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 135 @ 0.00109498 = 0.1478 BTC [+]
20:26 kakobrekla quickjump to stats from bet view added.
20:26 Apocalyptic out of curiosity [\\\], what btc business are you running ?
20:28 mircea_popescu Apocalyptic don't you know ? he ran the world famous shakuru disbursement fund
20:28 kakobrekla and some pirate stuff?
20:30 mircea_popescu poor imsa.
20:30 mircea_popescu anyway, Apocalyptic, he's an old guy that took a bad beat (cause he's smart but also doesn't listens!) and stuck through it. that sort of thing builds character of vipness.
20:32 nubbins` vipness, pronounced vee-eye-penis
20:32 mircea_popescu lol
20:32 mircea_popescu just as long as it doesn't turn to wee
20:38 mircea_popescu wait so bitfunder is closing ?
20:38 mircea_popescu how long have i been away!
20:42 mircea_popescu dub: 'moving to panama' is now a meme << not only has been dub on a roll yest, but moreover the meme should be panakkake!
20:42 nubbins` TO THE PANAMA
20:43 mircea_popescu this was some epic log shit going on.
20:43 mircea_popescu i take one day off to walk ma bitchez, you go dang it all to heck!
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082099 = 3.284 BTC [-]
20:47 nubbins` i'd ask someone to name an album, but the last time i tried all i got was links to dance music
20:48 mircea_popescu .bate
20:48 mircea_popescu .boat
20:48 mircea_popescu omg huyse hao do u speal
20:48 nubbins` leel
20:48 mircea_popescu .baet
20:49 nubbins` .bait
20:49 ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlr52Vncz1qf9ve4o1_500.jpg
20:49 pankkake .bite
20:51 chsados can someone help a noob out? new to linux and want to update electrum, is just doing the pip install considered the normal way to upgrade programs?
20:51 chsados #electrum is deader than a floating fish
20:51 pankkake if you can have a package for your distribution it is better
20:52 chsados yea, i have looked on electrums website for a PPA to add, dont see any reference
20:52 pankkake nubbins`: http://youtu.be/o3b1AicDie4
20:52 mircea_popescu chsados i'd love to help ya but i never used the thing.
20:53 chsados ok :) ill just wait for some life in #electrum - thx
20:53 pankkake ubuntu? I would be surprised if it wasn't packaged
20:53 chsados yea im on ubuntu
20:53 pankkake well, indeed the official website only mentions pip :/
20:53 chsados when you say packaged - are you referring to adding a PPA?
20:53 mircea_popescu i'd be surprised if the package worked.
20:53 pankkake yeah
20:54 pankkake actually it's already in there http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/electrum
20:54 chsados nice
20:54 chsados where did you find that
20:54 nubbins` "i am the grave dancer, and i dance on your grave. uahahahaha."
20:54 pankkake googled ubuntu electrum ;)
20:55 chsados oh, pankkake the one in ubuntus software store is till 1.8.1
20:55 pankkake I see. any reason you need the latest? otherwise I'd wait for an update
20:56 chsados nope, you're right no reason not to wait, newest version isn't critical
20:56 the one in the windows PPA is 2.4.3
20:57 mircea_popescu numbers are always bigger in windows.
20:58 pankkake yeah Windows 7 is actually version 6.1 or something
20:58 mircea_popescu i suppose their numbers must just not be very good, so they wear out a lot faster.
20:58 pankkake as we know, it's better to have more numbers
20:58 mircea_popescu or at least a large amount thereof.
20:59 pankkake: unless its stds
20:59 kakobrekla my bitcoin address starts with 9
20:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.00635051 = 0.1334 BTC [-] {3}
20:59 my bitcoinaddress is 1.
20:59 I been around so long, satoshi got his bitcoins from me.
20:59 mircea_popescu you mean 1///
21:00 nubbins` pankkake: i'll trade ya for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M1wSv4hHVQ
21:00 mircea_popescu: remember when we used to trade like 10k btc and the total USD was like $4?
21:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.00634412 = 0.7232 BTC [-] {2}
21:00 mircea_popescu i have this recollection of having dreamed this once
21:00 mircea_popescu but it clearly could never have been the case.
21:00 you're dreaming about me again, mo?
21:01 mircea_popescu just your bits.
21:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 251 @ 0.00628749 = 1.5782 BTC [-] {4}
21:01 oh, that's cool.
21:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.00611147 = 0.495 BTC [-] {5}
21:03 KRS1 or tits
21:03 Apocalyptic: at one point, I was one of the largest miners on eligius and other pools, then I made some bad bets and got screwed.
21:03 Now I mainly ban trolls and get labelled as an op abuser.
21:05 mircea_popescu [\\\] remember when like, 1 terrahash total was a remarkable lifetime achievement ?
21:05 jcpham http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwwks/wsj_bitcoin_firm_files_for_bankruptcy_alydian_inc/
21:05 mircea_popescu i don't mean th/s. i just mean, th.
21:05 jcpham coinlab loses more money
21:05 Apocalyptic [\\\], I see
21:05 mircea_popescu o no, the ycombinator people are taking over by storm!
21:05 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312830.msg3481251#msg3481251
21:05 kakobrekla lol
21:05 ozbot [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated
21:06 dexX7 rofl
21:06 jcpham labcoin totally legit
21:06 mircea_popescu lol
21:06 jcpham anagram of coinlab obv
21:06 mircea_popescu you guys are all simpleminded psychotic.
21:07 kakobrekla alberto will be back.
21:07 kakobrekla in some shape or form
21:07 http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pwwks/wsj_bitcoin_firm_files_for_bankruptcy_alydian_inc/cd6xkm0
21:07 ozbot mccorvic comments on WSJ: Bitcoin Firm Files for Bankruptcy (Alydian Inc., a unit of CoinLab Inc.)
21:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.00585226 = 0.5443 BTC [-] {6}
21:08 mircea_popescu who asked him ?
21:08 mircea_popescu "we" ? what "we" ?
21:08 Ukyo sigh
21:08 super obvious is always obvious after
21:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 481 @ 0.00554683 = 2.668 BTC [-] {5}
21:10 mircea_popescu i guess i gotta do a write-up now.
21:11 kakobrekla >Alydian said in court papers that it owes $600,000 to CoinLab Inc. It also listed $3 million in debt to New Zealand's XRay Holdings LLC and $40,000 in debt to Mr. Vessenes.
21:11 kakobrekla lulz
21:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00082099 = 13.1358 BTC [-]
21:11 kakobrekla also >Mr. Vessenes, who signed the bankruptcy petition, couldn't be reached for comment. Alydian's bankruptcy attorney also couldn't be reached. A spokeswoman for the Bitcoin Foundation declined to comment.
21:11 kakobrekla that sums it up
21:11 See no evil
21:11 Speak no evil
21:11 jcpham smells like coinlab fraud
21:11 Pay no evil
21:12 jcpham claiming invisible losses
21:12 jcpham but what do i know
21:12 Yeah
21:12 3 months and already throwing in the towel?
21:12 either they had a terrible business plan
21:12 had no foresight
21:12 are a bunch of retards
21:12 OR
21:12 they went to Vegas with jcpham
21:12 nubbins` it can be more than one thing
21:13 nubbins`: like retarded and no foresight?
21:13 nubbins` occam's razor, amitire?
21:13 no
21:13 nubbins` wait. amirite!
21:13 occam's razor isn't an explanation.
21:13 people that use it to explain things away are retards.
21:13 abracadabra wait.. no..
21:14 nubbins` well, look how many retards w/o foresight there are
21:14 thanks abracadabra
21:14 nubbins` it's the obvious explanation
21:14 abracadabra ack
21:14 now look what you did
21:14 abracadabra dammit
21:14 abracadabra :)
21:14 abracadabra DBordello your gpus are still happily mining away
21:14 abracadabra :)
21:15 lol
21:15 DBordello abracadabra, yeah? Alt coins?
21:15 abracadabra: house warmers?
21:15 abracadabra nah
21:15 abracadabra still btc
21:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 508 @ 0.00278764 = 1.4161 BTC [-]
21:15 DBordello 170 BTC worth :)
21:15 abracadabra might switch them over to ltc
21:15 DBordello abracadabra, have a sense if they have broken even for you?
21:15 abracadabra: careful, the vrms might be shot.
21:15 abracadabra no idea DBordello
21:16 DBordello abracadabra, hah :)
21:16 abracadabra ya.. some 5970s are toast
21:16 abracadabra 5970s were shitty design tbh
21:16 DBordello Still have them in the same setup? 6x and 5x on MSI boards?
21:16 specifically, they mine fine on bitcoin, you try to switch and it doesn't work and then when you try to switch back, you can't
21:16 I agree.. 5970s sucked.
21:16 abracadabra yep.. 5x
21:16 I liked my 5830s
21:16 5850s were ok too.
21:16 DBordello Yeah, the 5970s were trash.
21:16 DBordello I liked the 5850s
21:16 abracadabra 5870s ftmfw
21:16 DBordello 5830s sucked some juice
21:17 I underclocked the 5830s
21:17 had them just as good as most peoples 5870s
21:17 kakobrekla ;;ticker
21:17 gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.74001, Best ask: 239.99986, Bid-ask spread: 1.25985, Last trade: 239.99993, 24 hour volume: 18326.11112164, 24 hour low: 222.00000, 24 hour high: 242.00000, 24 hour vwap: 231.92786
21:17 abracadabra drive it like you stole it
21:18 DBordello I agree
21:19 lol
21:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00550082 = 0.187 BTC [-] {2}
21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 892 @ 0.00278765 = 2.4866 BTC [+]
21:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.37 = 1.48 BTC [+]
21:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00559708 = 0.5765 BTC [-] {2}
21:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.00542871 = 0.38 BTC [-] {3}
21:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00703837 = 0.4997 BTC [+] {3}
21:30 so how long till havelock closes?
21:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 16 @ 0.00704999 = 0.1128 BTC [+]
21:32 Apocalyptic [\\\], they've been acquired by some Panama company with proper registration i heard
21:32 define 'proper.
21:32 proper for who?
21:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6477 @ 0.00082099 = 5.3176 BTC [-]
21:33 Apocalyptic proper to run security exchanging biz in Panama i suppose, hard to find any relevant info about it
21:33 that doesn't make them legal in the US though, right?
21:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 263 @ 0.00704999 = 1.8541 BTC [+]
21:33 Apocalyptic didn't said it does
21:37 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/recapitulatio/
21:37 ozbot Recapitulatio pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
21:43 pankkake that psychopathic guy really struck you
21:44 kakobrekla yeah, he even came back later for reaffirmation http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=4
21:44 mircea_popescu pankkake i loved that one.
21:45 mircea_popescu it's just... i dunno, to me it's like the icon of impotent webrat rage.
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22:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00082252 = 10.2404 BTC [+] {2}
22:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00082096 = 0.821 BTC [-] {2}
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.00109498 = 0.1281 BTC [+]
22:24 mircea_popescu http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/scot-young-and-the-45-billion-postit-note-court-hears-of-bankrupt-tycoons-facebook-profit-in-highprofile-divorce-case-8921482.html
22:24 ozbot Scot Young and the $4.5 billion Post-It note: Court hears of bankrupt tycoon's Facebook 'profit' in
22:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.00699 = 0.6361 BTC [-] {2}
22:30 nubbins` "The American investigator said: 'That hit me like a dead cat buying groceries.'"
22:30 nubbins` lel
22:30 Diablo-D3 wat
22:30 mircea_popescu the cheekiness of this entire fiat system
22:31 mircea_popescu guy is in jail because he "failed to explain why he's poor now".
22:31 mircea_popescu the gall ? his fucking business already.
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 164 @ 0.00109 = 0.1788 BTC [-]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.05300001 = 0.212 BTC [+]
22:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00559001 = 0.1901 BTC [+]
22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00082006 = 8.8156 BTC [-] {2}
22:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12883 @ 0.00081912 = 10.5527 BTC [-] {2}
22:55 pankkake I guess the advantage to bitbet not resolving early is all that 1% fee refund opportunity
22:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1227 BTC [-]
23:03 mircea_popescu it's a lot better than that : the cost of having 10 people in a NOC watching it like hawks is x
23:03 mircea_popescu the cost of having a few admins do it within a day is maybe 1% x
23:14 KRS1 /me
23:17 dexX7 http://youtu.be/WeuXMao99_g?t=2m59s the twist. the media shows the bad guys now with happy faces.
23:17 ozbot Bitcoin Will Survive Anything. The Cats Out Of The Bag. Andrea Castillo - YouTube
23:22 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-october-2013-statement-1/
23:22 ozbot S.NSA, October 2013 Statement (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:26 pankkake what are special stock warrants?
23:26 mircea_popescu well, do you know what stock warrants are, in fiat ?
23:27 pankkake the basics. but I don't understand what they are used for, here
23:27 mircea_popescu it's a right to buy shares at a certain price.
23:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3200 @ 0.00250077 = 8.0025 BTC [-] {12}
23:29 pankkake ok, after googling the fingerprints, I understand better :)
23:29 mircea_popescu (c) The agreement between the parties is that Stanislav Datskovskiy will handle the operational, research and technical aspects of the venture, and jointly with Mircea Popescu the strategic management of the venture through a consensus process ; whereas Mircea Popescu will handle marketing, accounting and MPEx-compliant reporting for the venture, and jointly with Stanislav Datskovskiy the strategic management of the ve
23:29 mircea_popescu nture through a consensus process. As such Stanislav Datskovskiy is entitled to and will be issued a number of SSWs equal to 70% of the shares sold per 3.2.a above, at a price equal to the average price established by the IPO, and Mircea Popescu is entitled to and will be issued a number of SSWs equal to 30% of the shares sold per 3.2.a above, at a price equal to the average price established by the IPO. Further, any s
23:29 mircea_popescu ubsequent share issuance by S.NSA for any reason through any of the three avenues delineated under 3.2.b above will result in further SSWs being issued for Stanislav Datskovskiy, equal to 70% of the share issuance, as well as for Mircea Popescu, equal to 30% of the share issuance, with a price equal to the share price used in the share issuance.
23:29 mircea_popescu from the ipo contract.
23:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00671662 = 0.403 BTC [+] {3}
23:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12260001 BTC [-]
23:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5977 @ 0.00081459 = 4.8688 BTC [-]
23:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00600331 = 0.6003 BTC [-] {7}
23:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [+]
23:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 885 @ 0.00108515 = 0.9604 BTC [+]
23:46 nubbins` http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/04/mia-recruits-julian-assange-for-new-york-concert
23:46 ozbot M.I.A. recruits Julian Assange for New York concert |
23:46 nubbins` hahaha
23:46 mircea_popescu is this good ?
23:47 nubbins` just odd
23:48 nubbins` anyway, crazy saudi car stunts in this MIA video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE
23:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7165 = 1.433 BTC [-] {2}
23:55 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.78 BTC [+]
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