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02:13 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849988 -> go ahead
02:13 a111 Logged on 2018-09-12 15:34 asciilifeform: diana_coman, mod6 : plz say when ok to zero the retired drives ( dun have to be immediate, but it takes a day or so and would like to get'em mailed to my vivisection table )
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07:06 mircea_popescu http://archive.is/5PxAY#selection-329.0-337.12 (31 downloads, 17 Apr 2016) vs 42 downloads today (meanwhile gutenberg managed to fuck the archiving, hence http://archive.is/AjBWd ).
07:08 mircea_popescu this means that out of the "millions" of "true faifs" ustards and the "many" fans of c. s. lewis, exactly http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849749 ie 0.0% actually read the ur-example of this whole conscience-biographic genre.
07:08 a111 Logged on 2018-09-12 00:08 mircea_popescu: and in other "the web has failed, utterly" lulz : trilema's "Links from an external page (other web sites except search engines)" managed for the first time in history an epic 0.0% this month.
07:09 mircea_popescu because who the fuck needs tradition when private interpretation of self-identified experience is justasgood, amirite. and besides, reading is hard. not to mention a special snowflake runs the risk of discovering some unflattering things, reading.
07:10 mircea_popescu so there sits newman, unread. meanwhile "awareness" is all rose an' teh "kiriarchy" is well fought and whatnot the fuck else. tulpas!
07:14 mircea_popescu i suppose discussing why he omitted the enim in "Adhuc enim modicum aliquantulum, qui venturus est, veniet, et non tardabit." is not useful in this context.
07:16 mircea_popescu anyway, "have thus a little patience, for he on the road is coming, and won't delay."
07:28 deedbot http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/13/atunci-ca-si-acum-ca-ntotdeauna/ << Ossasepia - Atunci ca si acum ca-ntotdeauna
07:28 diana_coman honestly by now I think it's 0% *did* anything, whatever it is; talking yes, doing no as per old reference ^
07:28 mircea_popescu if talkin's like breathin' they'll do that and if not they'll just breathe.
07:29 mircea_popescu aaahahaha
07:30 mircea_popescu http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/13/atunci-ca-si-acum-ca-ntotdeauna/ << 1944 newspaper clipping, announcing one egg costing 80lei (a howeve rmany million% increase over pre war years -- romania had a nice famine just like everyone else in europe post ww2). the byline however, is "this because there's too much clucking about and too little work being done"
07:39 mircea_popescu diana_coman welcome back to online for your blog btw!
07:39 diana_coman mircea_popescu, thanks!
07:44 mircea_popescu diana_coman amusingly, the latest "stabilization" or we was 60 years later huh. how much were eggs cca 2004, before the 1:10`000 conversion ? 5k or so, 10k for easter ?
07:47 diana_coman I'd say more like 3k but I'm not all that sure on it
07:47 mircea_popescu 80 smokes nervously in corner.
07:49 diana_coman eggs were also one of the things I almost never needed to buy in Ro at that time
07:53 mircea_popescu in any case, 80 is not even a hundred, what thousands we speak of.
07:53 mircea_popescu 2064, 1mn lei to the egg!
07:56 diana_coman perhaps even earlier; from what I understand that's the desired direction anyway, "everyone a millionaire", no?
08:01 mircea_popescu what consumer has come to expect, consumer will come to get!
08:02 mircea_popescu people of 2064 watching "who wants to be a millionaire", this antique show where people go to be insulted for being so fucking poor.
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10:07 mod6 ben_vulpes: All of the previously created vpatches are coming into the manifest at the same time. This simply denotes that it was all created at one time.
10:07 mod6 Well, s/all created/placed into the manifest/
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10:26 asciilifeform !Q later tell BingoBoingo plz lemme know result of search for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849871 locally ( i expect -- none ) and i'ma order'em
10:26 a111 Logged on 2018-09-12 00:47 a111: Logged on 2018-09-11 20:00 asciilifeform: currently i am looking at replacement https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BAR-Plus-128GB-MUF-128BE4/dp/B07BPG9YX9 , which is a good ~4cm iron pig
10:26 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
10:26 asciilifeform diana_coman, mod6 : ty. will zero the olds.
10:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850134 << was this eggs per se -- or currency meltdown ( ... or both? ) ?
10:29 a111 Logged on 2018-09-13 11:28 deedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/13/atunci-ca-si-acum-ca-ntotdeauna/ << Ossasepia - Atunci ca si acum ca-ntotdeauna
10:31 asciilifeform !Q later tell BingoBoingo plz also say whether you were able to source the 5v blower. if not -- i'ma order one of'em also.
10:31 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
10:38 asciilifeform meanwhile, in heathen 'intellectual property'(tm) lulz >> https://archive.is/ROUt9
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11:06 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The samsung sticks have not been found. The only little heatsinks I found were asking an incredibly extortionate price. 5v blower has yet to be found. Seeing a lot of 12v's But I haven't yet completed the walk to every local store.
11:06 lobbesbot BingoBoingo: Sent 40 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz lemme know result of search for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-12#1849871 locally ( i expect -- none ) and i'ma order'em
11:06 lobbesbot BingoBoingo: Sent 35 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plz also say whether you were able to source the 5v blower. if not -- i'ma order one of'em also.
11:08 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> people of 2064 watching "who wants to be a millionaire", this antique show where people go to be insulted for being so fucking poor. << It'll happen before then. In 1980's and 1990's movies the plot driving stakes are normally in the thousands of dollars.
11:10 BingoBoingo And then there were the ancient gameshows watched keeping grandpa company where the elusive stretch prize was 64,000 and cool cars were the attainable prizes hit before that.
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11:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: '$64k question', famous. ( also remembered as the 1st and afaik last 'omfg it's rigged!' scandal, back when such a thing could possibly surprise anybody )
11:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: have you looked in same catalog where you got the uart ? ( for either )
11:42 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850164 << there is 1 other variant, where 'plot stakes numbering in thousands' come ~back~, in the form of 'thousand btc'
11:42 a111 Logged on 2018-09-13 15:08 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> people of 2064 watching "who wants to be a millionaire", this antique show where people go to be insulted for being so fucking poor. << It'll happen before then. In 1980's and 1990's movies the plot driving stakes are normally in the thousands of dollars.
11:42 asciilifeform sorta like in ru nobody gives half a shit about 'millionaire' unless he is specifically 'dollar millionaire'
11:43 asciilifeform ( if you can afford a toyota, you are a 'ruble millionaire' even nao )
11:48 asciilifeform meanwhile in today's mircea_popescu-oldies lotto, http://trilema.com/2015/lets-address-some-of-the-more-common-pseudo-arguments-raised-by-the-very-stupid-people-that-like-the-gavin-scamcoin-proposal
11:48 * asciilifeform wonders, whether the gavin derp is still on the stage, or fully retired nao. i dun follow heathendom closely enuff to know
11:52 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The particular vendor does not have fans. Other listing are "via Ebay" (i.e. unassisted import process) or feature 5v in the headline and 12v in the photo or specs
11:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: aite, unless there's more shops you want to look in ( or can get hold of a 12v brick and solder ) i'ma include blower in the order
11:53 asciilifeform tho i was hoping to get one blowing asap, to prolong the life of the installed sadsamsungs
11:54 asciilifeform considering that we've exhausted the spares
11:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i'm moar than a little bit surprised that you found no usb-powered fans, they are pestilentially common even in souvenir shops over here
11:55 asciilifeform and would entirely suffice for the purpose
11:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Thank you for reminding me those eist
11:56 asciilifeform they not only exist, but will work immediately, with 0 solder
11:56 asciilifeform supposing you can locate one
11:58 BingoBoingo There's a bunch of these, browsing through now https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/ventilador-usb#D[A:ventilador-usb]
12:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: see if you can find one similar to https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-455183149-arctic-breeze-ventilador-de-escritorio-usb-con-cuello-f-_JM but that aint an 'import, takes 9 days'
12:01 asciilifeform even sumthing like https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.uy/MLU-452816395-mini-usb-portatil-flexible-mini-refrigeracion-ventilador-enf-_JM would suffice
12:02 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: let's take this thread to #p, the #t log readers do not need to sift through the orcolade
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12:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it was both -- constantly during the war foodstuffs were eaten, but less and less produced, thus dwindling their supply and increasing their rarity ; while pantsuit "currency" substitutes on paper were not eaten (nor accepted), but more and more produced, thus increasing their supply and destroying their only form of value.
12:43 diana_coman ahahha mircea_popescu that new header pic
12:43 mircea_popescu CHTULHUHUHUHuuuu!
12:43 diana_coman if one's sushi...
12:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850166 << was huger and more recent "is wrestling tv show or sportive competition" debate. resolved, amusingly enough, through a doctrinal "diune essence", very much exactly like the "god is also son and passerine bird, same person" except "it's both staged and not staged"
12:58 a111 Logged on 2018-09-13 15:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: '$64k question', famous. ( also remembered as the 1st and afaik last 'omfg it's rigged!' scandal, back when such a thing could possibly surprise anybody )
12:59 mircea_popescu as a result, a few people believe in the trinity, and a whole lot of truckers believe in the duality.
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13:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what is sovok(tm)(r) is not this very duality.
13:23 mircea_popescu justabout.
13:23 asciilifeform as per http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-14#503958 .
13:23 a111 Logged on 2014-02-14 17:28 mircea_popescu: little girl in last row starts crying her pioneer shirt off
13:24 mircea_popescu "cultural marxism", right ? vince mcmahon, right up there, and EXACTLY AS MUCH as all the other zigglers, marxes, billy mays, engleses and whatnots of ye olde stupiditarian tradition.
13:24 asciilifeform who's mcmahon
13:27 mircea_popescu the pantsuited hilarity of ~this~ particular sect of dumbos.
13:27 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> who's mcmahon << Trump's friend the Wildlife Federation guy
13:28 mircea_popescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_McMahon
13:29 asciilifeform a
13:29 * asciilifeform not aficionado
13:39 mircea_popescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_J._McMahon << in fairness, father prolly more the relevant figure. different quimby.
13:49 mircea_popescu "It is very difficult duly to delineate a bore in a narrative, for the very reason that he is a bore. A tale must aim at condensation, but a bore acts in solution. It is only on the long-run that he is ascertained. Then, indeed, he is felt; he is oppressive; like the sirocco, which the native detects at once, while a foreigner is often at fault. Tenet occiditque. Did you hear him make but one speech, perhaps you would say he
13:49 mircea_popescu was a pleasant, well-informed man; but when he never comes to an end, or has one and the same prose every time you meet him, or keeps you standing till you are fit to sink, or holds you fast when you wish to keep an engagement, or hinders you listening to important conversation,-- then there is no mistake, the truth bursts on you, apparent diræ facies, you are in the clutches of a bore. You may yield, or you may flee; you ca
13:49 mircea_popescu nnot conquer. Hence it is clear that a bore cannot be represented in a story, or the story would be the bore as much as he. The reader, then, must believe this upright Mr. Bateman to be what otherwise he might not discover, and thank us for our consideration in not proving as well as asserting it."
13:49 mircea_popescu https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24574/24574-h/24574-h.htm << newman very much worth the read, as always.
13:50 mircea_popescu the principal problem of literature, of course, is that it's always better to show than to tell.
13:50 mircea_popescu always ? well no, not ALWAYS. there's one exception, says tongue in cheek the man one can rely to give a fair account and sufficient treatment to exceptions.
13:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: reminds me of erry (?) kiddo's eventual q, 'why in these fairy tales nobody ever has to take a shit'
13:51 mircea_popescu (and the man one can't rely on to that is very much the very substance of the moron ; hence http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-05#480525 )
13:51 a111 Logged on 2014-02-05 01:02 mircea_popescu: pankkake it's fascinating how they completely gloss over the part where one group (the scammers behind it) stole the resources of the rest of the people involved (every idiot that bought some, mined some, or pumped it up until two days ago)
13:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that can be well depicted (though it'd be a slightly more pornographic fairytale than commonly seen)
13:52 asciilifeform sure, can
13:52 mircea_popescu well, the problem here is CANT.
13:52 asciilifeform aha
13:52 * asciilifeform can see it.
13:53 asciilifeform boredom is the 1 thing nobody wants, dun even have the equiv of the scatofetishist there.
13:54 mircea_popescu anyway, the http://trilema.com/2018/surprised-by-joy-the-shape-of-my-early-life-adnotated/ < -- > http://trilema.com/2017/zuleika-dobson-or-an-proper-love-story/ < -- > Loss and Gain (linked above) relationship should be i believe readily obvious
13:54 mircea_popescu they're all oxford tales of found faith, yes.
13:54 asciilifeform i'll add however that the strugatskis (imho) pulled it off -- in 'snail on a hill', they had critters who think and speak in circles, and it was drawn lightly enuff so that it did not entirely permeate the yarn with snore
13:54 mircea_popescu that i'm the only one to have ever written a decent FEMALE version... well...
13:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it draws the good writer like flame draws moths, this. what all is finnigan's wake than the attempt ? and the very aptly named "hunting for lost time"
13:56 mircea_popescu finne* even
13:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but anyway, in the very success is the seed of failure : in that they weren't all that boring they weren't, after all, true bores. a true bore can drive women to murder, just as well as the http://trilema.com/2016/the-pedoepiphany/ can.
13:58 asciilifeform reader wants 'true bore' like he wants actual baccilae in the pages of story about plague.
13:58 mircea_popescu quite.
13:59 mircea_popescu i should have thought of that! think alfie, a future world wherein all thart's left is nostalgia for the past. a past which is no longer accessible, except in the limited sense, that victorian novels about prim sad ladies have pages steeped in koch solution ; whereas italian fiction of the plague will gladly give you it.
14:00 asciilifeform 'smellovision'
14:00 mircea_popescu so the reader can relive THIS much of the past, in an age when every other thing's as scarce as chairs in turn of the century china.
14:00 mircea_popescu "no fountains and no english lawns -- at least i cough just like my heroine..."
14:01 asciilifeform !#s stand on zanzibar
14:01 a111 14 results for "stand on zanzibar", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=stand%20on%20zanzibar
14:02 asciilifeform ^ where 'burning at the stake', guillotine, etc. were made available as ~paid~ service, for folx 'hungry for authentic'
14:02 mircea_popescu aha!
14:02 mircea_popescu the point here'd be not the death, but the rekindling of a loss.
14:02 asciilifeform 'can die of boredom like errybody else, or hey why not an auto de fe'
14:03 mircea_popescu actually, the us has a direct implementation of the idea -- can take a free 2 week vacation in florida on premises of people who aim to sell you real estate.
14:04 mircea_popescu or at least, could. not sure if it even still exists.
14:04 * asciilifeform not encountered this
14:04 asciilifeform maybe only pitched to highrollers
14:06 mircea_popescu original meaning of "timeshare".
14:06 mircea_popescu 1980s item.
14:07 asciilifeform aa see asciilifeform was in happy orc childhood in 80s, so did not see this.
14:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://www.episodelist.com/episodes/married-with-children/season-6/my-dinner-with-anthrax/25825 << extended network points out item was even reflected in popular culture.
14:14 * asciilifeform unsurprised
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14:36 BingoBoingo The time share thing still exists.
14:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: yes but with freebies ?
14:37 BingoBoingo Extent of the freebies less certain. Before I left there were still "free dinner for listening" ads in the local ad rag
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17:30 mod6 tested my fg on my rk, looks good
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17:51 asciilifeform yay
17:54 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/09/jizz-mopper-josh-garza-to-mop-prison-jizz-for-21-months-after-pleading-out-to-wire-fraud-over-paycoin-drama/ << Qntra - Jizz Mopper Josh Garza To Mop Prison Jizz For 21 Months After Pleading Out To Wire Fraud Over "Paycoin" Drama
17:54 BingoBoingo ^ An early Qntra/ProtoQntra case closes
18:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i guess 1 usg.rubber only holds so-much jizz, handler finally slipped on a new one and threw garza into the bin
18:01 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: wouldja happen to have a link to where the sentence ?
18:01 BingoBoingo Well he blew up spectacularly in early 2015
18:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: iirc d00d targeted the very bottom seg of the bell curve from day 1
18:04 asciilifeform so 'blow up' is not fully descriptive imho
18:06 BingoBoingo True, I'll put "blog a GAW jizz mopping" retrospective in the hopper as medium priority
18:07 asciilifeform gotta wonder, what precisely caps the lifespam of a garza-style op. my guess is that it was never +ev at any point, and d00d simply ran out of his usg-allotted 'capital' to pay the shills etc
18:07 asciilifeform *lifespan, but let's leave the typo in for effect!1
18:09 asciilifeform y'know, sorta like how the gavin-foundation ran through.
18:16 asciilifeform iirc while pirate et al ran pyramids, garza ran the btc equiv of those oldtime scamolas where you mix magic snake oil into yer petrol tank
18:27 asciilifeform btw BingoBoingo recall when the butterfly labs thing likewise came to an end, similarly
18:28 asciilifeform it's rather like how when they shot lavrentiy beria -- pile the crimes onto 1 d00d, then flush him, and it's as if the enablers 'never happened'
18:29 * asciilifeform wonders how many of the still-operating garzas are aware of their ultimate purpose in the scheme
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19:30 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-13#1850262 << wasn't this the one with the passible hotwife ?
19:30 a111 Logged on 2018-09-13 22:07 asciilifeform: gotta wonder, what precisely caps the lifespam of a garza-style op. my guess is that it was never +ev at any point, and d00d simply ran out of his usg-allotted 'capital' to pay the shills etc
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19:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: He had the passably hot wife
19:46 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I think the GAW thing intentionally aimed still lower
20:01 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i dungetit, what's lower than 'it's a miner^H^H^Hcloud^H^Hpetroladditive^H^Hdentists-don't-want-you-to-know' ?
20:03 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: BFL wasn't cloud yet
20:03 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: speaking of garza's 'hashlets' thing
20:04 BingoBoingo GAW was always cloud where customer is promised they never touch any object
20:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: always? cuz i definitely recall 'any day nao you will see'em in lolmart shelves'
20:04 asciilifeform started out as quasi-physical totem of some kind
20:04 BingoBoingo Walmart was their altcoin
20:06 BingoBoingo These details in their marketing print blurred together for their customers too
20:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i for one can't think of who exactly lies in bellcurve below folx who will sign up for 'pay now, see wtf it is later'
20:08 BingoBoingo Largely soulless automatons
20:11 BingoBoingo There are now fans lined up pulling air over the Rockchips
20:11 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: didja remember to take photo ?
20:12 BingoBoingo I did not take photo, I can run back and grab one
20:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: dun have to be right now, can go in the morning. and when you do, also plz retrieve the 2 retired usb stix from dulap, they've been zero'd
20:13 asciilifeform ( interestingly -- wrote all blox without even 1 eggog )
20:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: but if you're feeling energetic, why not go nao.
20:14 * asciilifeform bbl,meat
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21:29 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: http://aaronrogier.net/fanfront.jpg and http://aaronrogier.net/fanback.jpg Please gpggram a destination for the sticks
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23:39 mod6 nice fans BingoBoingo!
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