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00:05 mod6 wear a helmet
00:05 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660326 << mod6 , i have adatronic block/tx parser, reencoder, done, mmaptron also! but put on hold to finish 'p' (aka 'tmsr rsa')
00:05 a111 Logged on 2017-05-23 03:39 mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624240 << regarding alf's suggestion here, is there any objection to adding this log link to ticket: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/trb_tickets.html#6
00:08 mod6 ahh, ok. thats great news asciilifeform. just stick to what you're doing, all in good time.
00:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660325 << fwiw and ftr i've spent ~0 brain cycles considering what to do if i break it, it is not imho likely. but learned a few things in the process.
00:09 a111 Logged on 2017-05-23 03:32 mircea_popescu: the stopping of talking in the tardsgroup is never suspicious. they talk at the margins, as per the "gotta say unsaid things" heuristic.
00:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/333C19AC9348F53C27837C569881785696438308692D38352707CFB97411E521 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1406...3867 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.231.211.119 (ssh-rsa key from 79.231.211.119 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (p4FE7D377.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. DE)
00:11 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/333C19AC9348F53C27837C569881785696438308692D38352707CFB97411E521 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1445...4773 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '79.231.211.119 (ssh-rsa key from 79.231.211.119 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (p4FE7D377.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. DE)
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00:50 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: motorless is preferable. makes for stronger legs and leaves more skin attached to body.
00:53 BingoBoingo <mod6> wear a helmet << plan for at least first 10 kilomiles
00:54 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: But motorless doesn't sound like enraged lawnmower
01:04 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: that's why you put in headphones for maximum soundtrack. you can then listen to anything in the world other than the pissed cars and pedestrians flipping you off after you cut them off
01:05 BingoBoingo That doesn't sound much like oppressing others
01:05 pete_dushenski motorless also has the advantage of being immune to road laws. it's like having diplomatic immunity
01:07 pete_dushenski not quite http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654485 levels but you can at least run reds.
01:07 a111 Logged on 2017-05-11 15:40 mircea_popescu: let me point out that a) i visited, when i felt like ; b) they gave me a 10 year visa back in 2000. i was one of the i dunno, maybe dozen romanians with one, at the time ? c) they fucking held the embassy open while my driver was going 100 on the wrong way in bucharest because i met some friends and got to drinking and we lost track of time and we were late. eventually got a police escort to do it under color of law at least,
01:09 pete_dushenski as an aside, this mircea_popescu retelling blows my feeble canadian mind no matter how many times i read it. i'm not sure there's been a single person in the history of this great arable land that's had an impromptu motorcade like that.
01:10 mircea_popescu joining nato utterly ruined the place.
01:11 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: is motorhelmet not required by law in mo ? or what happens after first 10 kilomiles ?
01:11 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: guess so
01:13 pete_dushenski in other quantifiable tragedies, these are allegedly the quants who 'run wall street'. seriously sorry lot : https://archive.is/HU2Nn/dfc7e5f98f4d716186ceb87157295d37c231f5cb.jpg
01:14 pete_dushenski via http://archive.is/HU2Nn
01:16 * pete_dushenski is also researching helmet requirements. for track use, however.
01:17 pete_dushenski spring is in the air!
01:18 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: elaborate on 'few things'?
01:19 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: very bad for the micromorts
01:19 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: not required anywhere really, most helmet laws have been repealed
01:20 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Seems excellent on micromorts, introduces some macromort opportunities
01:20 ben_vulpes i roll my eyes at you sir
01:21 ben_vulpes in other wats, the solar battery tender i bought from ebay showed up today, fulfilled by amazon
01:21 ben_vulpes phone just went off, ebay wants me to know that the tender has shipped
01:27 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: yr looking to cut through traffic on 2 wheels or what
01:28 pete_dushenski http://buffalonews.com/2017/05/22/police-england-report-fatalities-ariana-grande-concert/ <--> "strongly dislike pop-anything - from fast food to television."
01:29 pete_dushenski all terrorists are alike i tells ya
01:29 mircea_popescu i thought ariana grande was a model. she sings ?!
01:29 pete_dushenski the odd song at least
01:30 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: tool around on back roads, fun in farm country, and intercontinental travel ability
01:31 mircea_popescu by your very loose... standards, latrine on cartwheels may qualify for "intercontinental travel ability"
01:32 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: from experience, back roads have an absurdly high incidence of dipshits over the line in blind corners
01:33 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Around here backroads don't have lines
01:33 ben_vulpes quittit
01:33 ben_vulpes you know what i mean
01:33 mircea_popescu the lines are optional neh ?
01:33 BingoBoingo Yes, thanks to "chipsealing"
01:34 BingoBoingo Anyways motorcycle seems like good way to practice steps 3 and 11
01:34 pete_dushenski i thought chips went with fish, not seals
01:35 ben_vulpes lol noshit
01:35 ben_vulpes in re steps
01:35 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: read 'zen' ?
01:35 ben_vulpes although the only conscious contact yr gonna develop is your ass against the pavement
01:35 ben_vulpes motorbikes are excellent toys
01:36 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: You do know they have 31337 ass armor nao?
01:36 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: trip report!
01:36 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: One can only have so much fun meditating
01:37 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: why not buy a shitty amcar from the nineties and practice drifting around those curves
01:37 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Well, still in information gathering phase, hence consulting esteemed lords
01:37 ben_vulpes at least the inevitable pebkac is less likely to be lethal in that case
01:38 ben_vulpes and i've been having such a good time reading qntra of late
01:41 ben_vulpes oh subject of, BingoBoingo, "was heckled for being himself insufficiently vulgar language towards..."
01:41 ben_vulpes surely you do not mean to imply that someone was heckling him for being vulgar language incarnate
01:42 ben_vulpes and insufficiently so at that
01:42 BingoBoingo ty ben_vulpes fxd
01:42 ben_vulpes mhm
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02:44 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
02:45 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2148.24, vol: 15616.18604563 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2170.0, vol: 15388.07427 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2122.1, vol: 53340.27299974 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2192.462451, vol: 25598.38300000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2140.052, vol: 9718.07000306 | Volume-weighted last average: 2148.1813463
~ 4 hours 41 minutes ~
07:26 shinohai !~step.3
07:26 jhvh1 shinohai: Error: "step.3" is not a valid command.
07:26 shinohai !~step3
07:26 jhvh1 3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
07:26 shinohai !~step4
07:26 jhvh1 4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
~ 48 minutes ~
08:15 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo I also need lordly advice, what was the name for the whoreticulture blog you came up with?
08:15 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
~ 47 minutes ~
09:03 * trinque hearing meatwot L2 derps becoming aware of bitcoin. which indicator is that again?
09:06 mircea_popescu this is good for fiat!
09:06 trinque must be, lol.
09:07 mircea_popescu it's so fucking amusing to me, how derps always pretend like they got all the optionality and all the time in the world. hurr durr i'm some random chick, almost hot, almost smart ? clearly i don't have to jump on this guy the moment i see him. nah, let time pass, let me "figure things out", he'll still be here. then get all butthurt when "that slut" did EXACTLY what subs shopuld be doing. "omg she just jumped on him started t
09:07 mircea_popescu hrowing her clothes off THAT SLUT!!!" orly ?
09:08 mircea_popescu and it goes the same everywhere. hurr durr i'm poor but i trhink i;m smart. and i want bitcoin. mp made eulora ? you knopw what ? i'll fuck around with nothing in particular, see what uppity tortilla is going, there's plenty of time. mp will be around forever!!1
09:08 mircea_popescu yes, he will, lol.
09:08 mircea_popescu oh, #trilema ? whatever, let me just finish "correcting" these wikipedia articles. #trilema can wait.
09:09 mircea_popescu suuure it can. and that total psychopath mp, how he beheads people for NO REASON!!!!
09:09 mircea_popescu they were just...!
09:12 trinque girl's a nanny to this derpy liberal fambly, shiftless dad says to breadwinner surgeon mother "something something web wallet oh also I have this shitty antminer". mother immediately asks "how will they tax it though". girl asks whether he actually holds the private keys, rolls eyes.
09:12 trinque makes me proud.
09:13 mircea_popescu lel
09:17 diana_coman lol, it's ok; argentinians are/have been -happily! - waiting as well and they will keep at it indefinitely, what
09:17 mircea_popescu that process has turned a country which cca 1950 was in the top 5, ABOVE CANADA, into something struggling to not be overtaken by the gabon.
09:18 mircea_popescu and there is no rhetorical flourish in the above ; it is exact and correctly descriptive.
09:18 mircea_popescu for as long as your antecessors accumulated fat lasts, you can pretend. after which, welcome to jobbagy, and complain to my asshole about "the unfairness of it all".
09:18 diana_coman it's ok, I hear they got now a CS conference in Buenos Aires and they get therefore to steal participants' laptops,it's all a craze
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09:19 mircea_popescu lel. you ever seen those fucks at a conference btw ?
09:19 mircea_popescu total romania 1990, they attempt to steal the mic to talk about themselves.
09:19 trinque I can't imagine it's unlike the pretenders at this or that javascript con
09:19 mircea_popescu they got this narrative, that gotta be spun, that's the public activity.
09:19 * diana_coman has recently been under a bit of avalanche of pictures from latest ICSE in Buenos Aires and she's SO HAPPY to not be there
09:19 mircea_popescu exactly where ustards will end up. already are, what with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-22#1660148
09:19 a111 Logged on 2017-05-22 17:44 asciilifeform: umd puts out a 'newspaper', also. at one time it was ~readable if a snore. today -- ~100% 'ohnoez campusrape, moarfunding'
09:19 mircea_popescu you remember what i'm talking about, i'm sure.
09:20 diana_coman and all the "they stole my laptop" "they entered conference rooms and tried to steal a laptop"
09:20 diana_coman ah yes; and fwiw it's anyway still live and well in Ro as well
09:20 mircea_popescu heh.
09:21 mircea_popescu trinque it's somewhat unlike, in that it's a very specific stupidity, alligned, coherent. SASER if you will.
09:21 mircea_popescu literally, there's some words in pre-glued structures that must be emitted with specified frequency or they get uncomfortable.
09:21 mircea_popescu like chickens going prrrrr prrrr in their coop at night.
09:21 trinque tribal chants eh?
09:21 mircea_popescu yep.
09:23 mircea_popescu anyway, working great for them, soberania & argentina no es un pais pobre ftw. meanwhile they ain't got two empanadas to rub together and uni profs are buying socks on credit.
09:25 diana_coman mircea_popescu> for as long as your antecessors accumulated fat lasts, you can pretend. after which, welcome to jobbagy, and complain to my asshole about "the unfairness of it all". <- well, fat of ancestors can only be eaten/spent, but not sustained without own muscle; so basically it makes sense: they are searching for their own *real* level/position as downwards as that might be; not as if they are aware of it or need be, bu
09:25 diana_coman t that's how it goes
09:25 mod6 mornin'
09:25 diana_coman morning mod6
09:25 mircea_popescu quite so.
09:25 mod6 how's it goin diana_coman?
09:26 diana_coman quite well,thanks; fighting the swamps of planeshit as usual these days
09:26 mircea_popescu ALSO a fine example of the whole "happy while in denial"
09:26 * diana_coman will be really happy when those are finally drained
09:27 mod6 yeah. it sounds awful.
09:27 diana_coman in denial of what? they are happy because they are on the road to where they need to be; they don't know it/acknowledge it,so what difference does that make?
09:27 trinque I dunno that so much agency is involved, though. These are the descendents of empty creatures that used to be animated by the flow of will from their owners.
09:27 trinque well in the argie case, mixed with indigenous whatever, I guess.
09:28 mircea_popescu diana_coman evidently.
09:29 mircea_popescu trinque very much indigenous. see rosas, for instance. guy is EXACTLY a "bad tyrant" by the "our democracy" bestiary ; was ELECTED. with genuine majority.
09:29 mircea_popescu by a people who had their head screwed on right.
09:30 mircea_popescu only known similar example being soviet union. stalin - also elected. except rosas didn't actually behead his own lieutenants or all thje rest of the nonsense associated with stalinism. which is why they never fucking mention him.
09:30 trinque might be racis, but the more tribal types always end up 1) out-fucking and 2) opting for dr prince james ibonga
09:31 mircea_popescu im not sure there is such a thing as a tribal type. basically any group of hucows has some humans and some cows mixed in. what you call "tribal types" is where cows are biologically dominant. cultivate the population for a few generations, it's just as capable to northern italy 15cento as northern italy itself. which, if you decultivate for a few generations...etc.
09:32 mircea_popescu the interplay between biological (ie, headcount) and political (ie, powerspeech count) domination in the hucow herd is ~the whole of history, anthropology, sociology etc.
09:32 trinque aha, totally agree. was groping for same with "animated by will of superiors"
09:32 mircea_popescu aha.
09:33 mircea_popescu so it's rather nonsensical to say "blacks are dumb". if you spend a century killing the humans, you'll be left with mostly cows.
09:33 mircea_popescu kinda what the russians were trying to do to the polish, re katyn etc.
09:33 mircea_popescu smarter than zee germanz.
09:34 mircea_popescu anyway, there's a reason every army prefers the enemy kill its infantry than it's officers -- and it's also how war improves the population.
09:34 trinque a great aunt of mine, from oldschool italian family of some note, said to my mother "The air here is toxic to family."
09:34 trinque not speaking there of the anglo notion of fambly
09:34 mircea_popescu the only problem with such improvement is that the notion that "we shouldn't hafta die" becomes universal and then therefore...
09:35 trinque maybe why I give too much weight to the biological; italians are racist as hell after all
09:35 trinque were anyway, no such thing as italians here now
09:35 mircea_popescu trinque aha! quite very much http://trilema.com/house-of-strangers
09:35 mircea_popescu show it to your grandmother, she might appreciate.
09:35 trinque dead
09:35 trinque the lady I'm speaking of; grandfather would be the related one
09:36 mircea_popescu well, if you see her.
09:38 * trinque will have to check out
09:40 asciilifeform trinque: biologically -- at least to naked eye -- ar folx are entirely european
09:40 trinque I recall the smell of tragedy around the italian side of family; it was the gnarled vestige of something that would claim lineage back to old mancinus
09:40 asciilifeform at least in the capital
09:40 mircea_popescu ukrs, also.
09:40 asciilifeform aha
09:41 mircea_popescu fuck, the chinese are starting to look european from behind.
09:41 trinque successive compromises, gotta leave italy because lets not die in the street with mussolini, gotta leave new england because hierarchy is illegal, lets just wither here on this beach.
09:41 * mircea_popescu suspects "looking european" is simply a placeholder for "looking like your entire fambly didn't starve since the day it was invented"
09:41 mircea_popescu trinque should have gone to mexico. hierarchy does fine.
09:41 trinque aha. didn't, and *entirely their fault*
09:42 mircea_popescu nfi why the italians went to the us and to argentina, the socialist shitholes at the two ends of the continent.
09:42 trinque I cannot believe the fucking squander
09:42 asciilifeform btw why mircea_popescu not in mexico ?
09:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i am a being of ~pure energy, my presence is chiefly nonphysical!
09:42 mircea_popescu i like the weather here, what.
09:43 asciilifeform lolk
09:43 mircea_popescu +ticas tetonas. wtf, mexicans. i can buy saddlebags at the store.
09:45 trinque asciilifeform: if considered earnestly I have to blame the clown-suit socialism and decadent descendents
09:46 trinque though if danielpbarron's version caught on I'd much prefer that to teh alternatives
09:47 trinque unbelievable rot flows out of this place "lakeway church" nearby, literally "give us your money and god will... like... manifest you some more"
09:47 mircea_popescu tbh, cca 1880 it'd have been rather hard to predict us will simply check out, let the dumbest of the dumb handle affairs for a century.
09:47 trinque path runs straight through all those idiot christian revivals
09:47 mircea_popescu the unholy alliance of neoprotestant old men + bored housewives. horrible.
09:47 mircea_popescu trinque quite so. the men permitted the women to betray the house of their master for "the house of the lord".
09:48 mircea_popescu beyond fucking scandalous. should have whipped them face to face.
09:49 trinque indeed, the way these women speak of Teh Lord is fraught with perverse sexuality. modern male cuck is her beloved son.
09:49 mircea_popescu quite.
09:49 mircea_popescu fucking mary complex.
09:54 mircea_popescu i suppose the retrospective correct analysis is, 1. you get a bunch of elite people get together (everyone who made the trip was elite -- else they couldn't afford the significant proceedings ; this includes the slaves, for the same reason -- if they weren't 10s nobody'd have taken them across and that's what in africa cca then it meant to be elite) ; 2. they have no way to communicate, for lack of language (because language
09:54 mircea_popescu is very much http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587276 ). consequently a situation of "whoever forges common language first wins" and so therefore 4. idiotic derpage "bible" crap won BECAUSE it was the ~only common ground.
09:54 a111 Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
09:55 mircea_popescu if this does not prove bible is a poisonous, anti-human text which one follows to his perdition, nothing does.
09:56 asciilifeform the plantators were , by all indications, aware of this
09:56 mircea_popescu obviously the elite christian response would be to point out that the basis of unholy communion was in no sense the holy writ, but merely what every language recalled of it, which is to say they distilled all the holy out of the writ.
09:57 mircea_popescu perhaps. nevertheless... unreliable item. (which is exactly catholic doctrine : "follow bible without priest, you'll go straight to hell in handbasked". it sounds absurd but then again it's lived history.)
09:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform mebbe.
09:57 mircea_popescu but just as whiskey was indian's bible, so was bible imigrants' whiskey.
09:57 trinque I take in danielpbarron's, when he speaks of it, that it is a knotted rope with which he beats himself. the other folks babbling about it, it's a damned gold star of "I am god's child"
09:57 mircea_popescu actual alcohol couldn't have gotten them, caucasians are used to it.
09:58 trinque former's sort of an odd "I will wear weighted clothing and thus be stronger"... the "forgiveness of sin" thing I suppose lets one take the weights off time to time.
09:59 trinque I can also see the wisdom in seeing oneself as by nature, a lying sack of shit, requiring discipline to forge a human from the clay.
09:59 trinque none of this is present in Christ (TM)
10:01 mircea_popescu people are born quite dirty, what can you do. gotta wash all the guts, mucus and shit off somehow.
10:01 asciilifeform related lulz, https://archive.is/QmdqD
10:02 mircea_popescu 18yo ?
10:02 asciilifeform 'Arthurs said all of them shared neo-Nazi beliefs but he later converted to Islam and killed the roommates because they disrespected his faith'
10:03 mircea_popescu lol ahahaha. "Arthurs said all of them shared neo-Nazi beliefs but he later converted to Islam and killed the roommates because they disrespected his faith, the report states."
10:03 mircea_popescu lol!
10:03 mircea_popescu check that out islamneonazi. alakhu snackbar!
10:04 trinque > his muslim countries
10:04 trinque bahaha
10:05 trinque god the kids are bored today.
10:05 mircea_popescu country of africa (good) ; country of muslim (neonazi) ; country of russia (spies) ; country of china (daddy!) ; country of our democracy.
10:05 mircea_popescu the five provinces of the world. wu shu or w/e it';s called.
10:17 mircea_popescu for instance : the reason for eg, "trump is nazi" narrative is possibly mostly based on the observation that country of russia bothers and disturbs country of our democracy just like country of muslim bothers and disturbs the good country of africa and therefore the russians must be nazis and probably the muslims are also spies! notwithstanding that they have serious problems with comprehending basic crypto etc. trump must be
10:17 mircea_popescu a nazi because reasoning through simile!
10:18 mircea_popescu which is the true boon of democracy : if everyone must be a people because they look kinda like one, then everything must be something else because it vaguely looks like it, and welcome to the dark ages.
10:21 asciilifeform but where will the cynocephali live
10:30 mircea_popescu there is no room for cynocephaly in modern world!
10:37 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660423 << lol, moar rms ?
10:37 a111 Logged on 2017-05-23 13:18 diana_coman: it's ok, I hear they got now a CS conference in Buenos Aires and they get therefore to steal participants' laptops,it's all a craze
10:37 asciilifeform ( famously, d00d lost his now-unobtainable 'loonson' box this way )
10:37 asciilifeform *loongson
10:38 diana_coman ahahah, perhaps they'll have a special conf session re moar rms ppl!
10:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-11#1049087 << see also
10:38 a111 Logged on 2015-03-11 18:38 ascii_field: http://www.devthought.com/2012/06/09/richard-stallman-robbed-in-argentina << vintage lulz
10:40 diana_coman they were distributing some staff from canada's travel recommendations re "stay safe in argentina" for some reason; apparently some "laptop-stealing exercises" were quite well-planned as in 2-3 people, goop on the target's backpack, "helping" etc
10:40 mircea_popescu in other random bounties of the sexual fronteer : http://www.collarspace.com/personals/v/1946329/details.htm
10:40 mircea_popescu chick has a skype, AND a tox thing (it's in the logs) AND a "ricochet" item which i never saw before but seems to make some tall claims.
10:40 mircea_popescu if anyone feels like investigating.
10:41 asciilifeform 'Whether it's corporations or governments, digital surveillance today is widespread. Tox is easy-to-use software that connects you with friends and family without anyone else listening in. ' << lol!!
10:41 asciilifeform yet another multicolourphone!!
10:42 mircea_popescu diana_coman you know, ~everyone there wears their rucksacks in front like total fucking retards (the REASON that type of bag was invented by zee germanz, and the reason it became popular esp for schoolkids, is that it leverages the weight to improve posture. IF you weart it correctly.)
10:42 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not tox, the other one. tox we already lulzed at.
10:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the linked piece cites 'qtox'
10:42 asciilifeform so, it.
10:42 mircea_popescu ...
10:43 diana_coman mircea_popescu, that must be the "solution" argentine style: they can't steal it now nananana
10:43 asciilifeform 'qTox: 93C0DEFA0C017B9DF3EEA.........'
10:43 mircea_popescu aaand ?
10:43 mircea_popescu if we scropll down a leetal ?
10:43 asciilifeform black text, 'toilet, prisoner,non consensual, kidnap, chained, caged, urinal, piss, spit, suck, slave, capture, bondage, extreme, abuse, sex, sexual, animal, pig, sub-human, subhuman, inferior, lick, mouth, pathetic, bitch, stupid, worthless, snuff, obedience, loyalty, dog, fun, pleasure, service, servitude, b&d, s&m, knine,submission, slave, sub.'
10:44 asciilifeform is all i get
10:44 mircea_popescu no ricochet:w3crim4z7vd4yskd on your page ?
10:45 asciilifeform well yes, but that's a scroll-UP
10:45 asciilifeform ( are the arrows reversed on mircea_popescu's planet.. )
10:45 mircea_popescu check him out, i give him the string to grep, he doesn't, then wants me to control his viewport.
10:46 asciilifeform perplexed by 'scroll down', lol
10:46 mircea_popescu it's shorthand for look deeper!
10:46 asciilifeform but yes , 2 crackpot faux-ircs
10:46 mircea_popescu did you look into anything or just being perplexed.
10:46 asciilifeform ( to asciilifeform , 'ricochet' is still that ancient modem thing )
10:47 * asciilifeform looks...
10:47 asciilifeform 'Ricochet uses the Tor network to reach your contacts without relying on messaging servers. It creates a hidden service, which is used to rendezvous with your contacts without revealing your location or IP address.'
10:47 asciilifeform lol.
10:47 mircea_popescu seems a sort of gossipd-over-tor
10:47 asciilifeform onion, no less
10:47 asciilifeform a la sr.
10:47 mircea_popescu https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet/blob/master/doc/design.md for archival
10:49 asciilifeform snoar
10:49 mircea_popescu we even had the dude's pgp.
10:52 mircea_popescu you're terrible.
10:52 mircea_popescu anyway, their contact scheme (summarized/cleanned up : cookie + pubkey + signature with same pubkey) is not terrible. uses rsa, which is a +.
10:53 mircea_popescu contact id based on pubkey, i have nfi why they think it dun leak metadata ; also no idea why they bundled tor in it.
10:54 mircea_popescu project seems well abandoned though.
~ 44 minutes ~
11:38 asciilifeform lol, even tor used rsa
~ 36 minutes ~
12:15 BingoBoingo shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-05#1622391
12:15 a111 Logged on 2017-03-05 18:20 BingoBoingo: shinohai: Have you considered starting a something to get some editorial experience? Perhaps you can be the publisher of "The Most Serene Republic's Journal Of Gardening And Whoreticulture"?
12:19 shinohai Aha! That was it
~ 19 minutes ~
12:39 mod6 wb
12:40 mircea_popescu ty :)
12:51 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/130677BB02BE2C83C98B0C3E1B00C45BB13A2FFF7FA624C2B2D4C7FCB3D115C3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1433...1037 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '209.54.27.123 (ssh-rsa key from 209.54.27.123 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (209.54.27.123.threeriver.net. US NE)
12:51 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/130677BB02BE2C83C98B0C3E1B00C45BB13A2FFF7FA624C2B2D4C7FCB3D115C3 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1702...6917 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '209.54.27.123 (ssh-rsa key from 209.54.27.123 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (209.54.27.123.threeriver.net. US NE)
12:55 asciilifeform in other lulphones, https://www.connect.im
12:56 asciilifeform fauxpgp, fauxwot, fauxwallet, all in 1!!
13:03 Framedragger heh they describe the key negotiation etc in sorta-detail on their website, which is probably *a first* https://www.connect.im/faqs?faq_category_id=5 i mean, don't use this, but it's refreshing to see this (in broken english no less lol)
13:06 asciilifeform Framedragger: the 'our code in github' link goes nowhere
13:06 Framedragger lol
13:19 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AF8C6925459B8C7F30E8CDBFCBE637E885CDF9DB48FF7D06DCB9DE2D86DCEDA8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1567...6787 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.105.176.186 (ssh-rsa key from 200.105.176.186 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static-200-105-176-186.acelerate.net. BO L)
13:19 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/AF8C6925459B8C7F30E8CDBFCBE637E885CDF9DB48FF7D06DCB9DE2D86DCEDA8 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1673...4829 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '200.105.176.186 (ssh-rsa key from 200.105.176.186 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (static-200-105-176-186.acelerate.net. BO L)
~ 1 hours 16 minutes ~
14:35 asciilifeform MEANWHILE!
14:36 asciilifeform compared performance of 'kindergarten' multiplier ( halfword at a time, uses machine's MUL instr. which apparently IS constant-time on x86 (but NOT on arm! would need test routine at warmup to establish if can use MUL ) )
14:36 asciilifeform halfword, rather than word, at a time, because of the idiocy of compilers, which LOSE the carry flag (see last 4 or so threads re subj)
14:37 asciilifeform so to get X * Y -> product, carry
14:37 asciilifeform gotta split X and Y into half-words, and multiply a half-word at a time, into a word-sized space
14:37 asciilifeform and take upper half of THAT, as carry.
14:37 asciilifeform anyway this is substantially faster than ancient egyptian mul,
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14:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659223 turns into 0.35 s
14:38 a111 Logged on 2017-05-19 17:27 asciilifeform: 2048 bit : ~10s
14:39 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659228 turns into 20.5s.
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14:39 a111 Logged on 2017-05-19 17:37 asciilifeform: 10 minutes.
14:47 asciilifeform after karatsubaization, this oughta become an actually manageable figure.
14:47 asciilifeform (20+s ~ordinary~ exponentiation is still a ~month-long rsa keygen)
15:00 mod6 asciilifeform: ah!
15:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660604 << unsurprising, also.
15:02 a111 Logged on 2017-05-23 18:37 asciilifeform: anyway this is substantially faster than ancient egyptian mul,
~ 22 minutes ~
15:24 asciilifeform not surprising at all, 32x faster (for quite elementary reason)
15:25 asciilifeform entirely same thing, but crunches 32b (on 64b box) at a time, rather than 1
15:38 ben_vulpes btcalpha down
15:38 ben_vulpes rip mike_c
15:40 mircea_popescu sux.
15:41 * asciilifeform takes off hat.
15:42 * mod6 bows head
15:42 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/s-a-furat-mireasa/ << Trilema - S-a furat mireasa
15:42 * shinohai makes trumpet noises with cheeks ...
15:44 shinohai I actually like trinque 's wot viewer better tho
15:44 asciilifeform aaaha, esp. the not-being-frozen-in-time aspect
15:44 shinohai ^
~ 20 minutes ~
16:05 Framedragger that's so crazy, literally ~5h ago i visited http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/panacea-opens-the-books/ through some link on trilema or somewhere
16:05 Framedragger rip :(
~ 2 hours 20 minutes ~
18:25 ben_vulpes someone broke the toilet i fixed
18:26 ben_vulpes this means WAR
18:26 ben_vulpes the pass-ag war of the toilets
18:28 asciilifeform where was this, ben_vulpes
18:29 ben_vulpes miserable pile of bricks in which i rent cubic feet for parking of butt while toiling in the mines
18:32 Framedragger sounds like bukowski "post office", just 100x less alcohol and more brain
18:33 ben_vulpes don't forget the pr0n
18:34 trinque y'all shooting porn in there now? artsy
18:35 ben_vulpes vault is brickly aesthetic and tittilating
18:35 Framedragger (here's a random good song with related title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHj0VBCP54)
18:36 ben_vulpes this is very...thumpy
18:37 trinque m'yeah, I always thought "computer music" was an invitation for *more* creative beat
18:37 ben_vulpes and boopy
18:37 * ben_vulpes frowns
18:37 trinque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHkUg-QCwk << ejemplo
18:37 ben_vulpes nah, i'm in a death metal and pilsner sort of mood
18:43 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0NnWt/?raw=true
18:43 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
~ 17 minutes ~
19:01 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes why are you so preoccupied with toilets, anyway
19:03 ben_vulpes it is a very /annoying/ and /present/ tell of how far this civilization has fallen.
19:03 ben_vulpes failure to maintain capital equipment, failure to give a shit about basic amenities you know working...
19:04 mircea_popescu in fairness i never met a 20something usian who could fix a toilet.
19:06 ben_vulpes yeah which is its own indictment of the place
19:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who could ? or who ~would~ ?
19:07 mircea_popescu wait until i point out i've never met anyone under 30 who both spoke english and could properly butcher a goat.
19:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform could. i have this magic want which takes the "would" away.
19:07 ben_vulpes it's not just that nobody bothers to fix the toilets, it's that they literally /cannot/, would rather prattle on at city council about implementing new taxes to pay for urban community gardens to feed the poor kale or what the fuck ever eudaly wants to wank off to this week
19:08 shinohai Simple, we use our feces to fertilize garden and therefore need no toilets!
19:08 mircea_popescu glwt.
19:08 mircea_popescu i hear it made india fabulously wealthy.
19:09 shinohai hue
~ 21 minutes ~
19:30 phf they totally would, like, you know, if they had to!
19:31 asciilifeform asciilifeform can't easily picture an adult man , with two hands, who could not fix toilet
19:32 asciilifeform on other hand, i've never owned an entire goat, so cannot claim to be first class goat cook.
19:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you ever seen that great bunuel film, "the exterminating angel" ?
19:33 asciilifeform nein
19:34 mircea_popescu prior to modernity, one could also not easily picture adult man, with two legs, who could not leave the fucking room.
19:34 mircea_popescu but as it is, the problem'd be that their mental object for a toilet does NOT EVEN FUCKING HAVE THE OPENABLE PROPERTY.
19:34 mircea_popescu what fucking fix. they can't open it anymore than they can fuck the woman on the deserted island. "nobody to introduce us!!1"
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19:35 mircea_popescu what, you thought http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-20#1659774 was a joke ? it was no fucking joke. the price of ipads is imbecility.
19:35 a111 Logged on 2017-05-20 19:16 mircea_popescu: Framedragger come to think about it, the logic actually follows. nature is red in tooth and claw. the hysteria of "removing the red from nature's tooth and claw", usually sold by the "our democracy" lunatics as "rule of law" or equivalent, directly runs all the way to "male penis is not reproductive organ but social construct".
19:36 asciilifeform by same logic price of toilet may very well be imbecility
19:36 asciilifeform ('the answer lies in the sewers' !! )
19:36 mircea_popescu rather.
19:36 mircea_popescu or w/e, let's phrase it in ourdemocracy terms, "you don't need computers if you did nothing wrong" or however it went.
19:37 mircea_popescu if the toilet worked it wouldn't need fixing!
19:38 asciilifeform hey, dunlookatme, i reccfltube my eizos...
19:38 asciilifeform everything-has-openable-property
19:39 * asciilifeform read the selfappendectomy d00d's adventures with envious eye
19:40 mircea_popescu it's not so surprising that people who can't fix toilet buy intel chips. "Everyone else does!!1"
19:50 ben_vulpes holy shit
19:50 ben_vulpes chain was wrapped around arm
19:50 mod6 what's a ballcock anyway?!!
19:50 ben_vulpes toilet bore a handy, nearly legible scribble, "do not use, broken. signed - janitor"
19:52 ben_vulpes astonishing degree of learned helplessness.
~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~
21:04 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: if this is a latrine you go to every day, put a chainless ballcock in it and be done with it
21:04 asciilifeform takes all of 20bux and 20min
21:09 mod6 just pull up and drop anchor on their front lawn.
21:20 mircea_popescu in other lulz, http://www.topiaonline.com/
21:20 mircea_popescu preorder, seriously ?
21:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: looks like yet another mud
21:22 mircea_popescu looks more like yet another attempt at the "team" scam. see the pix.
21:23 asciilifeform lolyes
~ 1 hours 33 minutes ~
22:56 hanbot http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657550 << searching (to no avail!) for a non-es keyboard the other day, i ran into, and did a double-take of, a radio shack here in cr. i had no idea they'd even squeaked by. no liquidation here (yet?).
22:56 a111 Logged on 2017-05-17 20:48 asciilifeform: not only this: the very same ratshack actually died once (i went to the same liquidation sales, bought the furniture, etc) and then somehow came BACK from the grave, (no prizes for guessing how -- printolade) undead, to live for another 3y
22:56 mircea_popescu prolly just a license deal.
22:57 mircea_popescu most us corps sell their name to local operators in the third world where the peons still believe us > crap.
23:03 asciilifeform they have a handful of 'franchise' shops in usa also
23:04 asciilifeform these are still alive, but 1) get 0 new inventory, at least not from the old mothership 2) will be asked to change their name, if/when somebody buys the old one
23:04 asciilifeform hanbot: this is still lulzy given as i was quite certain that all foreign rat shacks used the brand 'tandy' and vanished in late '80s
23:05 hanbot there are six of 'em here, apparently
23:05 asciilifeform what's inside ?
23:05 asciilifeform can haz photo of 1 ?
23:06 hanbot sure, i'll snap one next i'm by there
23:06 asciilifeform ty hanbot
23:09 asciilifeform in mostly unrelated lulz, asciilifeform found that 1) most recent manufacture dates of batteries sold for classic thinkpads are all ~2013 2) mircea_popescu was unfortunately wrong, chinese LiIon cells have ~not~ improved, they have cheapened further still, expected useful life of a battery is ~year (less, with heavy use)
23:10 asciilifeform 3) cheap (couplea hundy usd) tab-welders are shite
23:10 asciilifeform 4) useful shelf life of a li-ion cell is <4y
23:11 ben_vulpes workstation uber alles
23:11 asciilifeform news at 11
23:11 asciilifeform 'the territory is better than the map, but it won't fit in your glove compartment'
23:12 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: problem child is the arm/chain assembly
23:12 mircea_popescu eh, get better suppliers. the chinese only sell the good shit to people who can curse in 4 syllables.
23:12 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: you can get ballcocks with 0 chain and 0 arm
23:12 ben_vulpes not the float
23:13 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: this thing attaches to the flush actuator?
23:13 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i install these everywhere i move into
23:13 asciilifeform aha
23:13 ben_vulpes wonder of wonders
23:13 asciilifeform it comes with a bowden cable as actuator
23:13 asciilifeform and new flush knob to go with it, resembles bicycle brake
23:14 asciilifeform 0 things to tangle inside tank.
23:14 asciilifeform the neatest imho aspect is that it works IN REVERSE also
23:14 asciilifeform can abort a flush.
23:14 mircea_popescu lol abortive flushing
23:14 asciilifeform (go and PUSH a chain, lol)
23:14 ben_vulpes this is the "400 cr"?
23:14 asciilifeform i have nfi who makes these where ben_vulpes lives
23:14 asciilifeform i have a generic chinese one
23:15 ben_vulpes i'm just paging through bezosmart
23:16 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: nope, that looks like a chain valve
23:17 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: Danco HYR271T looks sorta like what i've here
23:17 asciilifeform ( though mine has not so many parts )
23:18 asciilifeform ok, found mine, it's the FLT231T
23:18 asciilifeform ben_vulpes ^
23:19 asciilifeform be sure to lather the rubber throat with heavy plumber's grease when you put the thing in, or it'll eventually leak.
23:20 asciilifeform ( it has this flexible throat thing so as to fit every possible tank arse )
23:20 ben_vulpes whoa christ
23:20 ben_vulpes i feel like mircea_popescu with the washing machine
23:21 mircea_popescu lol
23:21 ben_vulpes "finally! a sane design!"
23:21 asciilifeform oh and : bring a hacksaw, often ancient flush lever has the nut rusted solid, you will not be able to turn it out, gotta slice through the 'antikythera'
23:21 ben_vulpes ah yes
23:21 ben_vulpes although i have like three cans of the mighty blaster to get through
23:22 ben_vulpes ty asciilifeform
23:22 asciilifeform be aware, you ~will~ have to calibrate the float.
23:22 asciilifeform or you will get the dreaded double-gurgle
23:22 asciilifeform 'tis indeed the 'gentoo of toilet valve'.
23:22 ben_vulpes "but once it boots...!"
23:22 asciilifeform aaaha.
23:23 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: what, incidentally, is 'the mighty blaster' ?
23:25 ben_vulpes the mighty penetrating blaster
23:25 ben_vulpes from blaster corp
23:25 ben_vulpes wd9000
23:25 ben_vulpes "P'Blaster"
23:26 ben_vulpes as in "child, the might blaster is for lubricating and unfreezing bolts, not eating"
23:26 asciilifeform dunno, my tank's lever nut was a veritable antikythera, wholly solid ball of rust.
23:26 ben_vulpes never hurts to apply blaster before hacksaw
23:27 asciilifeform incidentally, wtf is the reason why a ~public~ shitter even has a tank & ballcock
23:27 asciilifeform oughta have city pressure flush
23:27 asciilifeform ben_vulpes ought complain to obummer.
23:28 ben_vulpes tis not public
23:28 asciilifeform hm i assumed it was, given the stories
23:28 ben_vulpes quite nearly, but no
23:29 ben_vulpes the orifice is on a floor that once housed train station and train company employees
23:30 ben_vulpes and insofar as the restrooms have keys, they are not public
23:31 * asciilifeform finds the history of the shitter a fascinating thing, in that it followed in same pattern as, e.g., small arms -- i.e. went through a peak of RIDICULOUS complexity before finally simplified into modern form.
23:31 ben_vulpes in other hilarities that archive.is doesn't do an entirely perfect job of archiving: http://archive.is/hPlfc
23:31 ben_vulpes (Alternatives To [sic]) White-Owned Appropriative Restaurants in Portland
23:31 asciilifeform consider the -- quite malodorous -- 'pan closet', for instance. >> https://archive.is/VstFy << mechanical, moving parts, touched -- and slowly accumulated -- shit
23:32 ben_vulpes i admired the nips' commitment to the handsfree experience when i visited
23:32 asciilifeform or in the other column, the maxim gun, dozens of small parts, like sewing machine
23:32 asciilifeform or in the third column, the comp, still in its maxim/luger/pancloset phase.
23:33 asciilifeform http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/43/main/3/81842.jpg << this is a 'bramah' shitter.
23:33 asciilifeform ( 1700s ! but doesn't it look quite 'steampunk'... )
23:34 asciilifeform the key insight, to use water as the SOLE moving part inside the shit-contacting subunit of the device, took ~200y from the first 'water closets' of modern europe...
23:36 asciilifeform see also 'plumbing practice', j. w. clarke, 1888
23:36 asciilifeform https://archive.org/details/cu31924004127696 << believe or not
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23:37 asciilifeform ^ mega-b00k.
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