Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans


← 2017-05-15 | 2017-05-17 →
00:00 mod6 fair enough. there is the separate case of enbracing the beatings too.
00:00 mircea_popescu "move into the slap, baby, move into the slap"
00:00 mod6 i told some administrtion people at the mines recently something very much the same.
00:01 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656836 << holyfuq trinque , that hobo's bed is bigger than asciilifeform's
00:01 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 03:45 trinque: http://www.houstonpress.com/news/houston-homeless-brace-themselves-as-anti-encampment-ordinance-goes-into-effect-9436174 << h-town heard the republic, is making poverty illegal inch by inch.
00:01 mod6 "I'm here because of the beatings I've taken."
00:01 mod6 they just looked at me like: O.O (wtf is this dude on about...)
00:01 trinque nice teddy and errethang
00:03 trinque they also can't block a walkway or entryway to panhandle. next year they can ban the panhandling outright.
00:03 mod6 it's different now tho. back in the day, if you did something retarded, you would be dressed-down for your failures. these days, mines are ~safe-spaces where no blame can be placed or else lawsuits.
00:03 mircea_popescu tsk
00:03 trinque I dunno; I worked for folks that had their own lawyers, when working in mines.
00:04 trinque can always drag you through them longer than you can manage.
00:04 mod6 i mean, how is one to learn if one doesn't know he did incorrect action/whatevers?
00:04 mircea_popescu the lazy and the stupid ganged together and convinced "everyone" ie themselves that placing blame is bad, evil, counterproductive et all.
00:04 mircea_popescu more power to 'em :D
00:04 trinque I think people vastly overestimate this "the gendercommitter shall sue"
00:05 mircea_popescu trinque people vastly overestimate the importance of social media howling, also. and this is entirely borne out of stubbornly ignoring the numerous cases of it being raped to shreds.
00:05 * mircea_popescu still chuckles at the "indignant community" back when fetlife turned out to be a shithole.
00:05 mod6 ya. i was just talking about this today, in fact. long story, but at the end, he fucked up, and how's he supposed to learn that he fucked up if no one slaps his dick and says "you fucked up, don't do it again" ?
00:05 mircea_popescu nfi.
00:06 mod6 lol. indeed.
00:07 mod6 mines churning out cucks like Sam.
00:07 mircea_popescu o damn, i gotta pick that up again.
00:08 trinque mod6: you were in new england right?
00:08 trinque iirc
00:08 mod6 heheh, i dig it mp.
00:08 mircea_popescu no, mn
00:08 trinque ah maybe that was mats or something.
00:08 mod6 trinque: yah, minnesota.
00:09 trinque ah ok, can't say I've been there.
00:10 mircea_popescu me either. most obscure state! but apparently great hunting.
00:10 mod6 imagine texas in the summer. then imagine texas in the winter -90 degrees.
00:10 trinque probably has its charm. I like when the environment tries to kill me.
00:10 mircea_popescu keyword being "tries" i guess.
00:10 trinque folks must not go outside; you'd think that'd toughen them up
00:11 trinque yeah, that tornado on the highway recently, good try.
00:12 mod6 dang. yah.
00:12 mircea_popescu tornado be like "bitchez, didn't you want flying cars ???"
00:12 mod6 haha
00:12 mircea_popescu WELL NOW YOU GOT THEM!!!
00:13 trinque ahaha
00:13 mod6 my ancestors lived in a covered wagon for like 2 years.
00:13 mod6 (i'm told)
00:13 trinque oh? actually settled the place?
00:13 mod6 apparently.
00:14 mod6 they came from germany or whatever, bought/steaked a claim; took 'em 2 farming seasons to get enough money to buy the supplies to build the house.
00:14 mod6 house is still there.
00:14 mod6 O.O
00:14 mod6 meanwhile, all 6-8 of 'em or whatever lived through 2 minnesota winters in a covered wagon.
00:15 mod6 staggers the imagination - the sheer determination of a generation long since gone bye.
00:16 mircea_popescu well no because back then they had anthropogenic minnesota warming see.
00:16 mod6 but shit, i figure, if they could do it, I could do it too. not that i look forward to that, but it's not impossible. hell, it might be downright necessary.
00:17 mod6 mircea_popescu: haha
00:17 trinque look if the cows all fart at once it sets off a positive feedback loop
00:17 mircea_popescu anyway, cold hardness is very much developed trait. i think i told the story of the pubescent girls at the black sea playing around in the freezing water like fucking sirens.
00:17 mircea_popescu at the north sea*
00:18 mircea_popescu fucking cape cod style winds, i was cold in my winter gear. they were the color of liver.
00:18 mod6 i think you did, ya.
00:18 trinque never jumped in the water, but I've hopped in a few snowbanks naked. it's a riot.
00:19 mircea_popescu snow is not so terrible because very insulating.
00:19 mircea_popescu wet + wind however is how you say death in arabic.
00:19 mod6 once, i was walking on a frozen lake. fell through some thin ice (~january-ish time), by the time i walked ~2.2km home, my pants were frozen and my legs were blue.
00:19 trinque ah true.
00:20 mod6 like, my pants stood on the own.
00:20 mod6 frozen damn near solid. lol
00:21 mircea_popescu no frostbite ?
00:22 mod6 probably some. i think i've had it quite a bit. not to the point of decay or amputation or anything. but there've been many times I remember playing hockey outdoors as a kid in 10 or 20 below f weather.
00:23 mod6 by the time i took my skates gloves off... feet/hands really painful. i used to put them in very luke warm water to thaw them out.
00:23 mod6 feels like your hands/feet getting hit with a hammer
00:24 mod6 once you get frostbite, they say that it's pretty easy to get afterwards because your capillaries never heal fully. making you susceptible.
00:27 mod6 not a year goes by that I don't read about some person who got drunk, fell asleep on their porch mid-winter, and loses some digits due to frostbite.
00:27 mod6 i suppose they should consider themselves lucky.
00:29 mod6 anyone else playing with ffa?
~ 44 minutes ~
01:13 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ran when parked << lol << :D
01:15 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656143 << lol i'm afraid i don't understand this 'fix' well enough to implement on disposable craptops that actually have intel me on them. let me know if you take the plunge :)
01:15 a111 Logged on 2017-05-15 13:25 Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626725 << actually i want to try this sometime, too, any chance you've already fiddled with it pete_dushenski? :D
01:20 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656491 << well, they are made of ye newe nose-cutty plastique. this is, however, the least annoying of its 'features'. cracking and breaking due to temperature fluctuations and extremes is markedly more of a nuissance. 'moar durable! progress!' is anything but. nooz at 11.
01:20 a111 Logged on 2017-05-15 19:20 BingoBoingo: Wait, Canadian bills are diabetic?
01:21 lobbes <mircea_popescu> snow is not so terrible because very insulating. << I can attest! I grew up on cape cod; while the winters never usually got below ~30 F on average, the occasional noreaster would punch you to the bone. cold rain + high winds = no fun
01:21 lobbes the 5 years I then spent in northern Ohio (where it'd get below 0 F often) were comparatively more bearable
01:21 lobbes of course now I'm in the warm, sub-tropical southeast! Barely had a winter this year :D
01:23 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655841 << why did btc4rx7 deal fall through ? /me offered previous owner of saddam 10btc. he declined because 'too volatile' and 'family to feed'. i didn't think he'd bite, but now there's at least one more schmuck who can't say he never had the olive branch extended to him. i guess that's something.
01:23 a111 Logged on 2017-05-14 16:13 asciilifeform: i almost bought a wankel car once
01:27 pete_dushenski in other $8mn lifestyles, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-4BNGEXUAAGgpA.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-4A8P0XYAQe1tG.jpg (cdn national hero justin bieber makes a variety of sensible requests while touring in indian hinterland, 'our demookracy' very upset by HIS entitlement. aha.)
~ 27 minutes ~
01:55 BingoBoingo In other threads completed: The best late model consumer vehicle is likely the pre-2017 model year Honda Rebel. 4-stroke combustion is a bummer to see on it, but air cooled and carbeurated. Better would be humble bicycle with "echo CS-800P" chainsaw swapped in to replace pedals.
01:56 BingoBoingo 5 cubic inches of fury!
01:56 BingoBoingo and automatic chain oiler as a bonus
02:01 BingoBoingo (Primary advantage of 2-stroke motor is lubrication in any rotational configuration such that gravity glove shennanigans need not deprive motor of friction protection)
02:01 BingoBoingo Secondary advantage being exhaust smell
02:05 BingoBoingo Advantage of chainsaw as powertrain is having a chainsaw to clear road obstructions provided rest of chainsaw is kept in saddle bag.
02:07 BingoBoingo Only disadvantage I am seeing here is that reconfiguring chainsaw to be chainsaw instead of bike mover takes time. Time that could be used to clear obstructions like hamplanets had one been simply traveling as a pedestrian with a chainsaw.
02:12 BingoBoingo And unlike turbine, trivial fuel is required to spin up motor
02:14 BingoBoingo In further trivia at apex on technology, chainsaw maker also produces appliance called "Bed redefiner"
02:15 BingoBoingo And still further finds, a cordless drill that might meet alf standards http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Engine-Drills/EDR-260
~ 23 minutes ~
02:39 mircea_popescu mod6 that's true, frostbite is pretty damaging
02:42 mircea_popescu lobbes yeah, man gotta pay for his lobster somehow.
02:44 mircea_popescu chainsaw bike eh. why not microwave tv and tower laundry machine dildo, while at it.
02:49 mircea_popescu shinohai its position as 5th altcorn yo. not it's. its.
02:59 danielpbarron the damage from frostbite happens in the warming up. i've had it happen more than a few times where my feet would get cold and then i'd hop in the shower and get that "hit with hammers" sensation. also feels like bones are itchy.
03:13 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> chainsaw bike eh. why not microwave tv and tower laundry machine dildo, while at it. << Microwave tv would be great for solving problem of people immersed in tv.
03:14 * BingoBoingo also though laundry machine dildo was already a thing.
03:18 BingoBoingo Anyways, motorcycle and chainsaw both are essentially motors powering sprockets to drive chains. Only really difference is the parts the chains touch
~ 3 hours 49 minutes ~
07:07 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656734 << awesome
07:07 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 01:36 asciilifeform: in other near-term lulz, a 'pbot' is in the worx, so that folx can play with various input->output pairs in-chan
07:18 Framedragger via funkenstein_ https://ponzico.win/ponzico.pdf / https://ponzico.win/
07:18 Framedragger pretty lulzy!
~ 21 minutes ~
07:39 Framedragger (i sorta enjoyed it, html version here; http://fd.mkj.lt/stuff/ponzico/ponzico.html)
~ 1 hours 44 minutes ~
09:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656935 << where to even begin -- first, why to spend good coin on something you can get for ordinary incabux
09:23 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 05:23 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655841 << why did btc4rx7 deal fall through ? /me offered previous owner of saddam 10btc. he declined because 'too volatile' and 'family to feed'. i didn't think he'd bite, but now there's at least one more schmuck who can't say he never had the olive branch extended to him. i guess that's something.
09:25 asciilifeform asciilifeform probably has, at this point, ~all the btc he'll ever have, and is quite reluctant to part with it for whatever reason.
09:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656937 << described d00d seems to have spent 8m only on hotel and whores in that particular day..
09:29 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 05:27 pete_dushenski: in other $8mn lifestyles, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-4BNGEXUAAGgpA.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-4A8P0XYAQe1tG.jpg (cdn national hero justin bieber makes a variety of sensible requests while touring in indian hinterland, 'our demookracy' very upset by HIS entitlement. aha.)
09:29 asciilifeform so technically subj is '8b life'
09:31 asciilifeform and no mention of solid gold toilet, asciilifeform is disappoint!!11!
09:32 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656947 << motherfucking 2cycle poison gas spewers. what is wrong with diesel compressor + pneumatic drill, etc, like normal people have
09:32 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 06:15 BingoBoingo: And still further finds, a cordless drill that might meet alf standards http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Engine-Drills/EDR-260
09:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform handheld. you know, like laptops.
09:37 mircea_popescu ruin your body effectively and efficiently!
09:39 mircea_popescu in other machinery, http://68.media.tumblr.com/78cb5f672da3f1f1deb49ec7a2f5a1ef/tumblr_ne0t1tuyrq1ticw27o1_500.gif
09:43 asciilifeform lol
09:45 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: re the 'great artist', do you ever find it curious that all of these folx , even with $maxint, eat recycled food ?
09:46 asciilifeform ( as described in 1st link )
09:46 mircea_popescu i wasn't gonna say anything.
09:51 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656952 << aha, same principle as the flooding backwards-flowing rivers of siberia / alaska
09:51 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 06:59 danielpbarron: the damage from frostbite happens in the warming up. i've had it happen more than a few times where my feet would get cold and then i'd hop in the shower and get that "hit with hammers" sensation. also feels like bones are itchy.
09:55 mircea_popescu i don't get it, so india apparently sees a rider for the very first time, gets all excited ?
09:55 mircea_popescu wtf is with all the peons opining and shit.
09:58 mircea_popescu also, i don't expect the hotel makes any money from the deal. they're giving the rooms away free. etc.
09:59 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: even artist can grow up as poor canadian, never exposed to culture, and continue 'successful career' equally sheltered, shuttling from airport to hotel and hotel to arena, forever contained in $bubble.
10:01 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: india isn't as socially stratified as it used to be. member of parliament was recently banned for ~all air india flights~ for chiding an attendant who stuck him in an economy seat.
10:01 pete_dushenski s/for/from
10:01 mircea_popescu lmao.
10:02 mircea_popescu and, of course, air india is consequently losing its subsidies, because they'll get hold up in parliament.
10:03 pete_dushenski i dun think so. firebrand indian mp just has to helicopter or drive in car now. it's some fubar shit.
10:04 mircea_popescu i totally would. the name of the game is disproportionate retribution. let your $100 seat savings cost you $10 mn in financing, why the hell not.
10:05 pete_dushenski ravindra gaekwad is the mp's name. a 'shiv sena' (far-right) party leader.
10:05 mircea_popescu it's kinda funny for me to read all the nightmare stories of various ppl trying to airtravel, because i've had nothing but great experiences and well... sucks to be them i guess.
10:05 mircea_popescu geekwad huh.
10:05 pete_dushenski lol correct.
10:08 asciilifeform dirigible!
10:09 pete_dushenski the story is basically that geeky had a business class ticket only to discover that air india had turned the plane into all economy seats. geeky still boarded the flight but flipped his lid when they landed and refused to deboard before roughing up some airline staff.
10:10 pete_dushenski anyways, geekwad, no, evidently doesn't have dirigible.
10:10 pete_dushenski isn't billionaire, etc. news at you know when.
10:12 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: not saying you should depart with btc for $car, but i've yet to meet the seller who turned down, as you say, incadollars.
10:13 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i considered buying the peculiar auto for incabux, but then realized that i dun actually need one for anything
10:13 asciilifeform having already 1 working auto and 1 arse
10:14 pete_dushenski aha. head won over heart.
10:14 asciilifeform ( asciilifeform's pet does not know how to drive )
10:16 pete_dushenski this has also been my issue in current $porsche market. brainbrakes are stronger than heartthrottle.
10:20 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655830 << speaking of throttles, 'car throttle' was started at the same time as my old car site by a very entrepreneurial brown brit by the name of adnan ebrahim. we used to email back and forth in those early, uncertain days and we met up in london in 2014 for a few drinks. he obviously went the vc-route and has done very well by the metrics of that world, certainly better
10:20 a111 Logged on 2017-05-14 15:46 mircea_popescu: https://www.carthrottle.com/post/heres-how-to-make-your-car-exhaust-spit-flames/ << check it out, thgere's even guides.
10:20 pete_dushenski than eric raymond.
10:22 pete_dushenski adnan's is an object lesson in catering to video game playing, basement dwelling, fanbois of the 'like' generation.
10:22 pete_dushenski certainly no one's done it better in the online auto enthusiast space than he.
10:24 pete_dushenski in other hooks, baizuo (白左), or literally, the ‘white left’ is the newest insult in china. love it.
~ 41 minutes ~
11:06 mircea_popescu lol, i'm trolling through hanbot's site to find where she got raped on eulora auction, end up with http://thewhet.net/2014/how-to-blame-others-and-entertain-people/
11:06 mircea_popescu such history of lulz there is!
~ 28 minutes ~
11:34 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/dialogue-on-economy-and-other-things/ << Trilema - Dialogue on economy and other things.
~ 1 hours 21 minutes ~
12:56 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656968 << But does air tool go Brap-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p
12:56 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 13:32 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656947 << motherfucking 2cycle poison gas spewers. what is wrong with diesel compressor + pneumatic drill, etc, like normal people have
12:57 ben_vulpes psh, also who wants to hump the accumulator around
13:06 mircea_popescu solar / wind power!
13:06 mircea_popescu WORKABLE ALTERNATIVES!
13:11 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: otoh air tools have turbines in 'em
13:12 ben_vulpes which is just plain old cool
13:12 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-16#1656945 << au contraire, properly built turbine can eat most liquid fuels
13:12 a111 Logged on 2017-05-16 06:12 BingoBoingo: And unlike turbine, trivial fuel is required to spin up motor
13:12 BingoBoingo But do turbines harness lubricating explosions like wet farts?
13:13 ben_vulpes how about we compromise on a gas turbine powered air compressor backed drivetrain
13:13 ben_vulpes it's the only reasonable thing.
13:13 BingoBoingo Nah, unless it's burning petroil mix, the exhaust won't smell right
13:14 BingoBoingo And air compressor means hoses
13:14 ben_vulpes even if burning petroil, gas turbine will get hot enough to break down the lube oil
13:14 ben_vulpes oh wait we need a total loss lubrication gas turbine
13:15 ben_vulpes could cool it with liquid fuel and recirculate the evaporate into the combustion chamber
13:15 ben_vulpes claaaaasic rocket tech
13:15 ben_vulpes except applied to turbo instead of combustion chamber/nozzle cooling
13:16 ben_vulpes prototype the stack as a "turbo furace"
13:16 ben_vulpes furnace*
~ 15 minutes ~
13:31 mircea_popescu more like turbo blaster.
13:31 mircea_popescu mean time between explosions, 3.5 hours!
13:32 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k19wyUXP0bw
~ 25 minutes ~
13:57 hanbot diana_coman i got myself up to date just to quote my last problem with the character in the logs, ha. thanks for asking, and i'll see to it this week for sure. meatland has been fairly crazy these past months, i'd love to have a software problem (she said naively).
14:00 asciilifeform in other noose, we have... long division
14:08 BingoBoingo nice
14:13 shinohai !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/wUY0i/?raw=true
14:13 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
14:22 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/05/starbucks-fiat-point-of-sale-system-goes-down/ << Qntra - Starbucks Fiat Point Of Sale System Goes Down
14:22 mircea_popescu that sounds great for fiatcoin
14:26 shinohai ty BingoBoingo
14:28 shinohai The Ether DNS seems to still be in exact same shape as I wrote about weeks ago: https://github.com/ethereum/ens-registrar-dapp/issues/128#issuecomment-301561198
14:30 asciilifeform 'OSX El Capitan. SSD + 32 GB RAM, ENS app super sluggish yesterday and same problems as OP. backed-up everything, deleted Mist and support files, re-installed. imported jsons after merging, working fine now, except for the fact that owned domains to be finalized are disappearing from the side bar. Domains cannot be finalized when typed in, mist refuses address lookup, type in a different domain and the retype the domain to be finaliz
14:30 asciilifeform ed works... strange....'
14:30 asciilifeform lol!!
14:32 shinohai Only mETH heads can make DNS shittier than it already is.
14:33 mircea_popescu fucking hipster retards.
14:33 mircea_popescu this is what to do with one's time, right ? pshaw.
14:34 mircea_popescu i suppose if they ever manage to adapt the fingernail rfid for cattle usage, the cows'll be tweeting about how they're testing the barn app, and act like all serious about it, too.
14:34 mircea_popescu "same moo as op. moo."
14:34 mircea_popescu "imported schmoo after making cowpie"
14:35 shinohai lol @ barn app
14:36 Framedragger https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/peekaboo-barn/id300590611?mt=8
14:37 shinohai lel
14:37 shinohai I wouldn't be surprised if they actually found that entertaining.
14:40 shinohai https://medium.com/@jonaldfyookball/an-open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-c260467e1f0 <<< /me doesn't know why he lolz so much at smacktards that write this drivel.
14:40 mircea_popescu in other random shit nobody cares about, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojQQLszjH0k (america, venim!) is quite the ultimate documentary of just what inenarrable scum romanians actually are.
14:40 asciilifeform 'I bought my first Bitcoins in 2013 and have been active on the Bitcointalk forum since March, 2014.... I’m concerned. I believe we urgently need to find a scaling solution, and I believe the best solution is to increase the blocksize.' << lol, betcha these come out of a perl script by nao
14:40 mircea_popescu i've been watching it in 10 minute installments with half hour cussing breaks.
14:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform just about.
14:42 Framedragger !#s wiseau the room
14:42 a111 0 results for "wiseau the room", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=wiseau%20the%20room
14:42 Framedragger ^ THIS is the ultimate film to watch
14:42 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/T5YKB/?raw=true >> mod6 , phf, et al
14:42 shinohai I was already convinced that Roger Ver populates r/btc with markov bots. Can't even find anything to Qntra about there unless BU breaks, etc.
14:46 mircea_popescu Framedragger whassit ?
14:47 Framedragger hailed as "citizen kane of bad movies". for a reason! it's terrible, horrible, amazing movie you should watch!
14:47 mircea_popescu ah.
14:47 mircea_popescu this isn't a bad movie. it's insufferable, because it is a good movie about cockroaches that really shouldn't exist.
14:47 Framedragger you mean the romanian one? aha ok ic
14:56 mircea_popescu lmao. wtf is with the florist scene, sounds like porn dialogue.
14:57 Framedragger http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170516/#218 << will do, yeah... it does require some fiddling (e.g. http://karlcordes.com/coreboot-x220/)
14:57 scriba Logged on 2017-05-16: [05:15:35] <pete_dushenski> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656143 << lol i'm afraid i don't understand this 'fix' well enough to implement on disposable craptops that actually have intel me on them. let me know if you take the plunge :)
14:58 Framedragger mircea_popescu: you mean the completely unnecessary scene in the room? film is full of those. it's amazing i tell you
14:58 asciilifeform Framedragger, pete_dushenski : ftr i dun see the point of the 'partial fix'
14:58 mircea_popescu that's christopher walken, right ?
14:58 Framedragger hahah
14:59 Framedragger asciilifeform: yeah esp. for x220 and the likes when it's truly only very partial
14:59 Framedragger (leaves the 'kernel', etc)
14:59 asciilifeform it's partial EVERYWHERE
14:59 Framedragger aha right.
14:59 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/05/mizzou-protest-fallout-continues-with-crashing-rental-market/ << Qntra - Mizzou Protest Fallout Continues With Crashing Rental Market
14:59 asciilifeform and will be until somebody coughts up the intel privkey
14:59 asciilifeform and possibly not then, either, nobody has any idea what is in the rom.
14:59 mircea_popescu yeah, how'd you verify it.
14:59 asciilifeform medicine for a corpse.
15:12 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/T5YKB/?raw=true >> mod6 , phf, et al << thx for the update!
15:18 asciilifeform np mod6 . lemme know if any part of it does not make sense to you.
15:19 asciilifeform incidentally, ~whole thing is trivially siliconizable/fpgaizable, given as it does not rely on von neumann flow control for anything
15:20 asciilifeform ( and the loops could be unrolled in place, even. )
15:28 ben_vulpes didja know that leebs think gross receipts taxes are a great idea? http://www.wweek.com/news/city/2017/05/09/commissioner-chloe-eudaly-and-advocates-prepare-to-launch-a-climate-change-tax-on-corporations/
15:28 Framedragger asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re verify, presumably one may be able to set some parts of the firmware to be RO? problem is, not all parts, and even then, "how deeply do you trust". so yeah i guess sisyphean
15:28 asciilifeform Framedragger: the mask rom
15:28 asciilifeform not the bios
15:28 Framedragger hm right.
15:29 ben_vulpes will pay for solar panels, community gardens for the poor, and jaeorbs for women/people of color!
15:29 asciilifeform the fritz chip starts from mask rom, the contents of which are unknown (and potentially unique per-batch at factory) and it in fact brings up the remainder of the cpu
15:39 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes hey, i have various cos paying 3% of gross in ro. works great for high margin operations.
15:40 mircea_popescu (no, it's not "on top of everything". it's either of net or of gross, your option._
15:40 asciilifeform why would anybody ~want~ to pay of-gross ?
15:41 mircea_popescu because cheapewr.
15:41 asciilifeform how's that work ?
15:41 asciilifeform 3% of X > 3% of (X-y), where y>0, neh ?
15:42 mircea_popescu suppose you have 1mn gross receipts. if you pay 3% of gross, you're paying 30k. if you instead pay 16% of net, you'll have to produce expenses worth 850k before it's cheaper that way.
15:42 mircea_popescu discount cost of expenses is about 6-7% depending, meaning it's not worth it to buy them straight.
15:43 ben_vulpes there is no 'either' on the table here.
15:43 ben_vulpes femfuhrer simply wants 1% of the largest pile in sight.
15:43 mircea_popescu yes, but you were discussing the thing in general, so i gave you specific example of exception.
15:43 asciilifeform if you're , e.g., 'uber', or some other bezzleco, and your net 'is' 0, you pay 0, neh ?
15:44 trinque pdx income tax has been otw since that arts tax thing
15:44 asciilifeform i dun see, still, how %-of-net can possibly be greater or equal to %-of-gross
15:44 trinque asciilifeform: because they can argue a greater percentage of "omg they were just going to pocket it" than of "and we also have to pay things you don't know about"
15:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, but then you have to actually have the expenses. and then the inept game of "oh, disallowed extemption, we decided you owe money retrospectively plus penalties etc"
15:44 asciilifeform naggumization lol
15:45 mircea_popescu and so now you have to maintain accountants + hitmen, and neither one is sufficient, to keep enough pressure on the crown so it can't come up with bullshit.
15:45 mircea_popescu half the time it does anyway.
15:46 mircea_popescu irl, paying tax out of net is a sucker's game. you want to pay the talent out of net, like they do in holyingwood, and the criminals out of gross.
15:47 mircea_popescu but the alternative is to shoot the "democratically elected" and take over. and the sad truth of the matter is that it's actually AN EVEN WORSE DEAL.
15:47 * mircea_popescu wouldn't take over eg romania if they paid. i can't imagine oregon or w/e is any better
15:47 mircea_popescu though i've not seen the numbers.
15:47 ben_vulpes and he asks why i don't burn down city hall.
15:48 asciilifeform which romania, though. the current demooocracy one, or a re-created 18th c. one, consisting of current minus the moocows (sell to dairy farmers, berbers, whichever specialists)
15:48 trinque asciilifeform: think of the expense of holding that territory, and then you have all these underlings who don't want to pay you!
15:49 mircea_popescu the runway is not worth the bomb, asciilifeform
15:49 mircea_popescu nor is the "person" worth the bullet.
15:49 asciilifeform hm speaking of the bomb, iirc great U deposits in ro
15:49 mircea_popescu myeah.
15:49 asciilifeform if you want to hold territory, i could think of less useful one to hold.
15:49 mircea_popescu 2/3 of ru nuclear programme comes from re quartzes.
15:49 asciilifeform and gdr aha
15:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i could think of less useful myself, or of more useful also. but i can think of no ~useful~.
15:50 mircea_popescu less clean sewage, more clean sewage, just no potable water s'all.
15:52 asciilifeform i suspect that the 'ju-jitsu' kit, 'club enemy with his own arm', 'sit on river side and wait for corpses to float by', has limitations; and for some things you probably need a physical castle. but then again i'm not in the mircea_popescuation business.
15:52 mircea_popescu anyway. i personally know two ... groups, let's say, that triedf the whole take over game. leaving aside the petty private satisfactions [of jailing the other trailer park trash they grew up with], economically it's been improductive.
15:52 mircea_popescu romania incidentally has a long history of just this, it's called fanarioti period. hundreds of groups over 3-4 centuries did just this, kept taking over because pissed off with insolence of ex crown. discovered worse deal to be king.
15:53 asciilifeform 'Тяжела ты, шапка Мономаха!' (tm)(r)(pushkin)
15:54 mircea_popescu aha
15:56 mircea_popescu anyway, heuristic remains : pay anyone you can fire out of net, anyone else out of gross.
15:59 mircea_popescu trinque the adventure of say rhodesia is instructive. suddenly the imbecile twitter horde is trying to play counterstrike around your borders "for democracy", while the idiots are cheering them on. god fucking forbid black dudes with machine guns start pouring over border in us, at the rate of a few thousands a year.
15:59 mircea_popescu TERRORISM!!!! and THE WHOLE WORLD MUST GIVE A SHIT!! AND THEREFORE DOES!!!
15:59 mircea_popescu and the netflix scum nod along, "oh yes, terrible, terrorism, moo, moo"
15:59 mircea_popescu then again, the us of today would pretty much collapse in a year of rhodesia treatment, supposing anyone could be arsed to apply it.
16:00 mircea_popescu its continued existence signifies the absence of interest and exactly no more.
16:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform remember when teh politburo shat it because they imagined the chinese'll start pouring over the border ?
16:01 asciilifeform aha
16:01 asciilifeform usa has the extra-lulzy feature that it ~relies~ on porous borders in order to work (~100% of agriculture, construction, etc. business in various places is mexican)
16:01 trinque god who wants it
16:02 asciilifeform so closing borders, even supposing this were somehow desired by the lizards, ain't happening
16:02 trinque all these fat women, and sidewalks filled with human shit and shit humans.
16:02 asciilifeform trinque: that's fixable.
16:03 asciilifeform bullet is 10 cents, zyklob-b -- cheaper yet
16:03 asciilifeform *zyklon
16:03 mircea_popescu everything's fixable in this sense.
16:03 mircea_popescu we could all be young and the walls could be ivory.
16:03 asciilifeform perhaps not, but the sidewalks ~could~ be shit-free.
16:03 mircea_popescu and they're not worth the cleaning.
16:04 mircea_popescu you say you worked in biolab. you must've encountered the phial not worth the washing, yes ?
16:04 mircea_popescu "this set, straight to incinerator".
16:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ~nobody ever washed ~anything
16:04 asciilifeform in fact.
16:04 mircea_popescu but why! could have washed! good as new!
16:04 trinque there was perhaps some land worth ruling, who knows. but wtf, somebody's going to be father-janitor to these people.
16:04 mircea_popescu fact is, the crap growing in agar bottle manages to soil the bottle. permanently.
16:05 asciilifeform chinese experience in africa suggests otherwise. rm -rf / the locals, ship in worker bees.
16:05 mircea_popescu chinese have the bees.
16:05 trinque the future being at all worthwhile is going to involve massive ratios of man to drone and drone to bodycount.
16:06 mircea_popescu while that lasts. god knows the scum are trying their best to scumify china as well ; and sadder still -- the ~only reason it exists is that it's really just an alternate pathway to scum. slightly different sort of cockroach, that's all and no more.
16:07 mircea_popescu the ~only reason it resists* i mean.
16:07 mircea_popescu though the two are just about synonymous in context.
16:09 asciilifeform which is why north kr was priceless treasure -- the ONLY remaining experiment with industry sans konsoomer-spending-britneyizes-all
16:10 asciilifeform it dies ( and it will die, there is limit to how many decades you can dance from a noose tightened by entire 'civilized' world ) there will be 0 remaining.
16:11 asciilifeform ( incidentally : https://archive.is/RcYWV << a very rare bit of sane description of subj in english )
16:11 mircea_popescu this is not true. myanmar, fine example
16:12 asciilifeform what industry there ?
16:12 mircea_popescu notice how silent the "crowd wisdom" is about all that ?
16:12 mircea_popescu ~same as best korea.
16:12 asciilifeform how many migs they make in a year ? from what mines, the ore ?
16:12 asciilifeform how many men under arms ? who made the arms ?
16:12 asciilifeform no comparison.
16:12 mircea_popescu wait, pyonyang makes migs per year ?
16:12 asciilifeform supposedly! ( i dun work there , cannot confirm )
16:13 mircea_popescu i'm telling you. ~same.
16:13 asciilifeform at this point i'd doubt that they make anything at all in north kr. it is on deathbed.
16:13 asciilifeform but at one point -- made.
16:13 trinque when slurping the USSR's cock?
16:13 mircea_popescu at one point. at one point i lived off tit milk.
16:13 asciilifeform trinque: after.
16:13 trinque nb
16:15 asciilifeform trinque: believe or not, they spat it out, and it causes much butthurtz - refused, e.g., electric supply from su, insisted on building own, expelled military 'advisors', etc
16:15 asciilifeform 1960s.
16:15 asciilifeform *caused much
16:15 mircea_popescu anyway. the reason i point out burma is because the coup was successful, and the country is industrializing at chinese pace.
16:15 mircea_popescu whereas korea... whatever. it's gone, has been gone for decades.
16:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what do they make in burma ?
16:16 mircea_popescu by now, pretty much everything, all the way to diesel trucks, tractors etc.
16:16 asciilifeform local ore ?
16:16 mircea_popescu chinese help. you know, just like n korea had ru help.
16:16 mircea_popescu but ~just~ like. on schedule to "spit it out" 2025 or so.
16:17 asciilifeform yes but q is re what will happen if help goes to 0
16:17 asciilifeform and borders -- close.
16:17 mircea_popescu borders are quite closed, to eg, esl precious cuntlet.
16:17 mircea_popescu otherwise, same as in korea - 20 years of slowly fading away.
16:18 mircea_popescu but the general point being : the anglotard narrative is fundamentally broken. it's not you know, "broadly correct, needs adjustment". it can't be fixed. whatever you read in english newspaper makes you dumber, and you can't fix this.
16:19 mircea_popescu where by newspaper we mean the whole gamut of fake news, from redditwittetardopedia to "the new socialist" or w/e it's called.
~ 46 minutes ~
17:06 ben_vulpes in other shops from bruces: http://68.media.tumblr.com/dd45666cbb61ec58d0cd41d4eb8f4b04/tumblr_oq22gmTurk1s2jikwo1_1280.jpg
17:06 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: aha, "the new wokesman"
~ 16 minutes ~
17:23 ben_vulpes haw haw haw "Italian Commission Says More Controls Needed on NGO Rescue Boats in Mediterranean"
17:29 asciilifeform !!up ua
17:29 deedbot ua voiced for 30 minutes.
17:29 ua hi there
17:30 ua I have 20x Dell SC1435 available, these are 2x quad 2.2 Opteron 2374HE 16GB RAM 80GB HDD
17:30 ua there are post leasing from poland, 175 euro apiece, 50 euro cheaper than i saw on ebay.de
17:30 ua these are*
17:32 ua also i could deliver them in person in like east germany
17:35 asciilifeform ua: do you only sell servers, or run an isp ?
17:36 ua only servers
17:37 ben_vulpes !!key ua
17:37 deedbot Not registered.
17:46 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yeah, like that.
17:50 mircea_popescu ua logging -otc since 2013, still not made a key ? what is this, some kind of joke ?
17:51 ua eh, no
17:51 ua i was just reading and stuff
17:51 mircea_popescu oh i see.
17:51 mircea_popescu keep to it.
17:51 mircea_popescu !!down ua
18:02 ben_vulpes best binary give-a-shit filter on randos.
18:03 ben_vulpes no key, not even worth a cursory second look.
18:03 mircea_popescu not even a rando. the newborn has the excuse that he wasn't there to hear the calling ; but the dorks who frittered their time away in presence have no excuse, nor any way to wash the shame of their cowardly, subhuman build.
18:04 mircea_popescu there is no difference in this sense between nubbins, an idle idiot, and nanotube, a respectable professor. scammers known like theymos and lukejr, supposedly honest idiots like szabo, agents known like gavin or unknown like whatever others have this much in commom -- the call was made, and they strayed.
18:04 mircea_popescu no way to wash this, and i will prosecute them. all, the same scum.
18:05 mircea_popescu the whole "so email him" comes with quite the heavy backhand. there's no washing of the treason of not showing up.
18:05 ben_vulpes the genuinely naive with two brain cells to rub together mighta at least asked "what dat" "how do i register" etc
18:05 mircea_popescu there's no such thing as genuine naivite enduring over half a decade unchanged.
18:05 mircea_popescu it's dedication to the devil, plain.
18:05 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: when's the last time an insect asked you something
18:06 asciilifeform it ain't a rhetorical flourish, either -- nubbinses live life entirely same as a roach : set of reflexes
18:06 ben_vulpes yes well, i'm not going to grep through my personal logs to find out if a fleanode name'd been used before
18:06 ben_vulpes sit on couch, smoke pot, print things.
18:10 asciilifeform unrelatedly, 'finite precision number systems and arithmetic' (kornerup & matula, cambridge press) is mega-b00k, the only one i've found on subj that is NOT a mere plagiarism of knuth, has useful algos for e.g. carry-free ops, hardwarizations
18:11 asciilifeform had, among other things, almost literally my multiply-with-carry thing
18:11 asciilifeform if the crate had not taken as long as it did, to come -- would have saved quite a bit of time.
18:17 ben_vulpes in further butthurt from unidentifiedasswipe: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FZ4aR/?raw=true
18:18 shinohai lol ben_vulpes
18:19 * shinohai imagines this is speshul snowflake of redditard variety.
18:19 ben_vulpes the "could i" construction indicates a particular breed of poverty-stricken subject of her "majesty"
18:20 ben_vulpes to whose crown it does no credit.
~ 46 minutes ~
19:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform books rule, totally, i see it.
19:07 mircea_popescu perfect medium for knowledge : while you wait for them to show up, you become more knowledgeable.
19:10 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes let me guess, the ever-sweet delusion that there's room "for everyone" and that whether random sack of flesh burns or achieves is somehow my fucking problem, not its fucking problem, cuz im supposed to be his mommy.
19:19 ben_vulpes more of a sad little "what would getting into the wot at this late date get me anyways?"
19:22 mircea_popescu isn't this a little like the 18 yo girlie asking "what'd getting into fucking this late get me anyways, people'd been fucking forever"
19:22 mircea_popescu obviously not the fucking same question for the deeply retarded female that waited to be 50 first.
19:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually it was infuriating, i only needed that 1 pg !
19:26 mircea_popescu aww,
19:27 asciilifeform well possibly it has something to say re mod-exp
19:29 trinque ben_vulpes: this guy somehow reminds me of teh spike-sitting salesbro
19:30 trinque tone of "hmph so hurt omg having fit"
19:40 ben_vulpes do salesbros of commodity hardware throw fits where people can see?
19:48 trinque head too far up ass to tell who's looking.
~ 1 hours 24 minutes ~
21:12 mod6 evenin'
~ 24 minutes ~
21:37 ben_vulpes heya mod6
21:40 shinohai heya mod6 how goes?
21:42 mod6 hi :]
21:42 mod6 good. how about you guys?
21:48 shinohai Good here ... looking over asciilifeform 's paste from earlier
21:48 shinohai Like reading korean to me xD
21:51 mod6 werd. feel free to ask if you have questions.
21:52 shinohai Thank you!
~ 49 minutes ~
22:41 mircea_popescu north or south ?
22:45 mircea_popescu in other lulz, washpo aggitating over how trump gave putin "Secret Infoz!"
22:46 mircea_popescu notwithstanding that a) trump decides what's secret and what isn't and b) lolreally ? wtf did the blue state imagine diplomacy is ? reading the fake news outloud ?
22:52 asciilifeform hey, theoretically he also decides whether to import aztlan or not
22:53 trinque trump loves suing people; what prevents him as president for suing the rag for libel?
22:53 asciilifeform and whether to fund berkeley genderschool or not
22:53 trinque *from
22:54 asciilifeform did he sue the rape whiners ?
22:55 asciilifeform like killing ants with cannon.
22:56 BingoBoingo In other news I think I accidently acquired alf's pole saw from hell
22:57 BingoBoingo Fucking piece of shit has "automatic oiler" that consists of leak half of oil reservoir between filling and picking up saw
22:58 trinque they sell the oil I take it?
22:58 trinque if not, not getting the full printer-ink out of the scam.
22:58 BingoBoingo trinque: It uses standard 90 weight bar and chain oil
22:58 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: my dad's electric chainsaw leaks like a leeb too
23:00 * BingoBoingo contemplating sawing "fuck electric line" renting CS-800P and taking the whole fucking tree down
23:01 asciilifeform lol BingoBoingo , mine had no oiler, i had to take it to pieces half dozen times and put molybdenum in
23:01 BingoBoingo lol
23:01 asciilifeform chain wasn't fond of staying on
23:05 BingoBoingo Constantly readjusting chain tension happens with small bars, nbd. Dumping 90 weight straight through alleged "reservoir" and calling it automatic oiling is sin.
~ 25 minutes ~
23:30 * BingoBoingo should have heeded alf's warning on the concept of pole mounted chainsaw and simply skipped to 36" bar and attacked tree at the stump
23:31 mircea_popescu i thought you just keep uncapped barrel of oil around, dip chainsaw in now and again.
23:33 BingoBoingo Nah, that's how you cut metal with not a chainsaw
← 2017-05-15 | 2017-05-17 →