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00:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well they are in 18th century.
00:12 mircea_popescu except with ipads instead of crystal balls
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00:35 mod6 <+thestringpuller> mod6: hitman has taught me that a lot of accidents in the world may not have been accidents << aha, 'tis a great game isn't it?
00:38 mircea_popescu so if one googles "sandra milo ass", as one legitimately would after watching la visita, one finds naught but http://sandrarose.com/2016/07/the-story-behind-leslie-jones-vs-milo-twitter-brawl/ and such inept shit.
00:38 mircea_popescu what the fuck happened to sandra milo's ass!
00:46 asciilifeform http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2006/01/death-by-government.html << lulz in the commentz
00:49 BingoBoingo And the meat of the Dicamba saga ends, all that's left is gloating and epitaphs http://qntra.net/2016/08/dicamba-disaster-continues-destruction/
00:50 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/08/dicamba-disaster-continues-destruction/ << Qntra - Dicamba Disaster Continues Destruction
00:55 BingoBoingo updated with fxs
00:55 asciilifeform in other oldz, http://iang.org/ssl/pki_considered_harmful.html << 'nobody foresaw!!1111'
01:06 BingoBoingo attn danielpbarron shinohai and other tweetmailers https://twitter.com/qntra/status/765051127129788416 https://twitter.com/qntra/status/765051445359972352
01:07 BingoBoingo ;;later tell covertress once again your thing was beat by an altcorn for media attention
01:07 gribble The operation succeeded.
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01:59 deedbot http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2016/08/14/a-tale-of-two-papers/ << Bingo Blog - A Tale Of Two Papers
02:01 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/765065684543877120
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02:16 BingoBoingo In other PGP short id collisions https://slashdot.org/submission/6212493/pgp-short-id-collision-attacks-continued-now-targeted-linus-torvalds
~ 5 hours 54 minutes ~
08:11 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521770 << why isn't zooko in the wot, incidentally!
08:11 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 04:46 asciilifeform: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2006/01/death-by-government.html << lulz in the commentz
08:12 mircea_popescu anyway. gathering some data would lead us to FIRST think about "disease, poverty war". THEN after we've grown out of kindergarten and its infantile emotional responses, it would lead us to think about our priors, such as "Every life is sacred", and so on.
08:12 mircea_popescu where by so on i mean truly basic stuff such as "what happens to a tub when you open the faucets and plug the drain ???"
08:13 mircea_popescu and then szabo goes on to hurr while blogging on google's platform. sigh.
08:21 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521774 << i dun think ina grigg has enough study under this belt to produce usable overview studies on such matters.
08:21 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 04:55 asciilifeform: in other oldz, http://iang.org/ssl/pki_considered_harmful.html << 'nobody foresaw!!1111'
08:21 mircea_popescu his intentions may be, as declared, good, or just as well as undeclared ill ; but in any case his perspective is misalligned.
08:34 mircea_popescu dude fucking twitter is unreadable now. most of the screen is a "promoted tweet" which 1) has exactly nothing to do with anything and 2) is exactly the sort of slimy, anticool, "here's me being sexy - with a hoodie" stupidity. it's like all the girls that dedicated their adolescence to "abstinence only" moved on to "corporate advertising / governance" or some shit.
~ 24 minutes ~
08:59 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i had to unfollow George Takei cause I think he's just being paid by blog spammers to post blog spam.
08:59 mircea_popescu taki you mean ?
08:59 thestringpuller dont even need to promote tweets if lame (but somehow "popular") celebrities will devolve to pederasty and shill
09:00 mircea_popescu is this the guy with the story about how he fucked a 16yo french girl on the riviera because at the time ?
09:01 thestringpuller https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/765023226887942144 << nah the asian dude from the original star trek that came out as being gay a few years back and became a public figurehead for the US gay community
09:01 thestringpuller but d00d posts way too much blog spam
09:02 thestringpuller Nimoy was the only one who posted anything interested out of Shatner, Takei and himself, but he dead now.
09:03 mircea_popescu ah
09:07 asciilifeform https://ostif.org/ostif-quarklab-and-veracrypt-e-mails-are-being-intercepted << Use Moar Shitmail!1111
09:09 asciilifeform ('veracrypt' is apparently the umpteenth reincarnation of 'truecrypt')
09:10 mircea_popescu motherfucker
09:10 mircea_popescu hey asciilifeform can you find the first reference for "star pattern" ?
09:11 asciilifeform hmm
09:11 mircea_popescu there's http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-03#1005509 but i suspect that was earlier.
09:11 a111 Logged on 2015-02-03 23:23 mircea_popescu: "why vote for women ? because if women spend more time talking to the state and less talking to their husbands, the state will be stronger and society weaker"
09:12 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-30#998181 <<
09:12 a111 Logged on 2015-01-30 05:50 mircea_popescu: the socialist state does not want a normally functioning society, but instead this stellar configuration where the state is at the center,
09:12 mircea_popescu yes!
09:12 mircea_popescu ty.
09:12 asciilifeform np.
09:14 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521780 << these take at worst a ~week of (a very modest) cpu, to generate.
09:14 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 06:16 BingoBoingo: In other PGP short id collisions https://slashdot.org/submission/6212493/pgp-short-id-collision-attacks-continued-now-targeted-linus-torvalds
09:16 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521785 << i confess to wondering, of whom there is more - 'blog on proper, hand-admin'd machine' people, or of gentoo users.'
09:16 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 12:13 mircea_popescu: and then szabo goes on to hurr while blogging on google's platform. sigh.
09:20 mircea_popescu sigh. fucking derivative culture. anyone got a link to goatse ?
09:20 mircea_popescu piece of shit google listing cakes and corporashithead light jokes. goatse.cx is gone... \
09:20 asciilifeform nooooo?!!!!??
09:20 mircea_popescu buncha facebook links.
09:21 asciilifeform holy mother of fuck.
09:21 mircea_popescu An email address like no other, launching in early December 2012 for limited release. Your favourite email host meets Goatse..." />
09:21 mircea_popescu meta name="keywords" content="mail,goatse,email,email hosting,goatse mail,goatsemail" />
09:21 asciilifeform http://goatse.info
09:21 mircea_popescu because totally, that's how it works. fucktard aluminun siding salesmen...
09:21 mircea_popescu a ty,
09:22 asciilifeform such important item, naturally, has mirror!1111
09:23 asciilifeform but mircea_popescu this is not even the most monumental wtf, recall when 'symbolics.com', ~first~ .com ever regged, was auctioned off to spammers ?
09:24 asciilifeform iirc the money went specifically to pay for probate lawyers.
09:24 mircea_popescu myeah.
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09:49 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/too-poor-for-trees-too-dumb-to-know-it/ << i dedicate this to asciilifeform for all his help in chasing down pieces of it!
09:51 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: If your only "competition" is Toni Lane Caserole, I'm a little sad inside.
10:04 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-07#747810 .
10:04 a111 Logged on 2014-07-07 14:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'terminator seed' is actually a very intriguing instrument from the standpoint of the mega-state. solves the ancient problem of the peasants not really needing the state for much of anything (as described in j. scott's 'the art of not being governed.')
10:06 mircea_popescu aha.
10:11 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/too-poor-for-trees-too-dumb-to-know-it/ << Trilema - Too poor for trees, too dumb to know it...
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10:36 mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/09/qntras-mascot-dixie-visits-consensus-2015/ << qntra retrospective is so fucking delicious.
10:36 mircea_popescu soon enough they're going to have a nother one of these, right ?
10:37 mircea_popescu "we can't get a table straighter than 0.3% but we'll discuss bitcoin"
10:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i can't help but wonder wtf actually goes on at these conferences
10:45 asciilifeform all that comes up in my head is a gavin ballmering at the podium, 'big blox, big blox!' (to the tune of 'developersdevelopers' (tm) (r) naturally)
10:45 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It's basically speed dating for people who suck too much to admit they are lonely
10:47 mircea_popescu why the sausage party then ?
10:47 asciilifeform ^
10:47 mircea_popescu o wait. obviously.
10:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ironically the question proves his point.
10:48 mircea_popescu and in other morning shower thoughts, http://67.media.tumblr.com/7e58fd69aa991656ace8a66cb7719d5d/tumblr_mynatycCdI1t2iu5ho1_500.gif << "i love chicks with small hands. they make my schlong look longer than their thigh"
10:55 asciilifeform http://www.orrazz.com/2016/08/we-want-cash-drug-agents-seize-209mn-in.html << in other lulz.
10:56 asciilifeform 'Two years ago, Amtrak’s inspector general revealed that in nearly two decades, drug agents paid a secretary $854,460 in exchange for passenger information. Court records suggest that agents have been profiling passengers on most major airlines, including American, Delta, JetBlue, Southwest, United and others, usually without the companies’ consent. ... “We want the cash. Good agents chase cash,” George Hood, who supervised a
10:56 asciilifeform drug task force assigned to O’Hare International Airport in Chicago before he retired in 2007, told the newspaper...'
10:56 mircea_popescu starting to sound very 1990 soviet dunnit.
10:59 asciilifeform by '90 the valuables were already leaving su by the trainload, and usd - entering.
11:00 mircea_popescu myeah, the "we gotta get some cash together" phase was more 88/89
11:01 asciilifeform and earlier. recall thread re 'Берёзка' (foreign currency posh grocery shop)
11:05 mircea_popescu yeah. the very sharp desperation come to think of it was more of a ro thing. everyone else, from yugos and poles all the way over to moscow had a lot more sense than to take socialism seriously.
11:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: usd was legalized in su in '91.
11:08 asciilifeform but even before this official surrender, was quite ubiquitous.
11:08 mircea_popescu myeah
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11:50 thestringpuller when i was reading that i asked myself, "Who travels with cash anymore?"
11:50 thestringpuller wasn't the seinfeld era also the era of "traveler's cheques" and shiznit?
11:52 phf i used to travel with cash before i got an hsbc account
11:53 asciilifeform phf: what's special about hsbc ?
11:55 phf asciilifeform: as far as i gather they have highest ground coverage of all banks on account of running the world, which means that i can get a no fee atm pretty much anywhere
11:55 thestringpuller mod6: it's insane man. the AI in Absolution is a beast. when you kill someone normally, like with gun or fiber wire, it leaves marks on the body, and AI will see that. so they detect someone is there. however, there are ways people can die where the AI is just like "Huh. That's a shitty way to go." For instance I put some kinda acid in this d00ds hair regrowing gel or whatever. he puts it on, and it melts his head off and everyone aro
11:55 asciilifeform phf: mine just refunds all atm fee.
11:56 phf asciilifeform: amt fees, international fees and also fees that atms charge on top of withdrawl?
11:56 asciilifeform phf: supposedly. i have not tested the 'world' part, dun particularly relish feeding card skimmer debit card
11:57 mircea_popescu yeah srsly. the problem with cards isn't the piddly dollar or w/e the atm charges.
11:57 phf that's another thing, can find a branch pretty much anywhere
11:57 mircea_popescu if i have a roll and i want to pay 2k, i peel 2k off the roll. if i have a card i do what, wait for a week to get 400 / day ?
11:58 mircea_popescu and no, you can't find a branch pretty much anywhere outside the us. what you find and don't know any better are independent organisations that bought the right to use the name.
11:58 * mircea_popescu discovered this with "citi" a few years back.
11:58 phf they turned you down when you walked in?
11:59 mircea_popescu nope.
11:59 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: doesn't this require you to have stacks of cash at your residence?
12:00 mircea_popescu but manhattan hq was "oh, we can't do that, they're not actually OURS" when i wanted them to etc.
12:00 thestringpuller pull a rack off the stack and make a roll
12:00 mircea_popescu thestringpuller yes, having access to cash requires you to have access to cash.
12:01 thestringpuller so you don't leave any cash in banks or like what is the arrangement there is more what I'm inquring about :P
12:01 trinque bahaha yes, he's now going to tell you where his money is at.
12:02 thestringpuller LOL
12:02 thestringpuller i'm not gonna keep mils in my house
12:02 trinque y'know... I bet he has a few of them buttcoins.
12:02 thestringpuller you can roll bitcoins into a rubber band? who knew!
12:03 phf mircea_popescu: i wouldn't say hsbc branches are everywhere, but they've been in every country i've been to so far
12:03 mircea_popescu i actually use a clip. it's pretty great, can swallow a hundred bill stack vertically, or else just folds whatrever.
12:03 phf and i've extracted cash from them for the duration of my stay
12:03 mircea_popescu phf to put it in these terms, your high opinion of your insurance is mostly built on you not having had anything covered.
12:04 thestringpuller trinque: lemme rephrase; MPEx::Bitcion as X::USD what is X? Obviously no bank qualifies there.
12:04 mircea_popescu did it actually happen to you that you had your card skimread in foreign jurisdiction and hsbc was "oh fuck we'll squish those fuckers"
12:05 phf mircea_popescu: no, i had some dodgy charges removed though
12:05 mircea_popescu better than nothing.
12:06 asciilifeform when you lose pocket change, american bank often refunds, strictly for pr
12:06 asciilifeform 'here have the candy bar back'
12:06 asciilifeform now go and lose $mil.
12:06 mircea_popescu but you know, the nightmare scenario is when seven+ figure account is linked to half a dozen cards which regularly pay for things such as "dinner for six at chez victor".
12:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly.
12:07 asciilifeform the 'they stole yer purse? here's yer $300 back' thing is really a mousetrap cheese, to keep plebes from waking up to the scamolade of fiat bank as a class
12:08 phf asciilifeform: this is empty rhetoric unless you're actually not using a bank account
12:08 mircea_popescu i'm actually not using a bank account.
12:08 phf i mean, ~i~ benefit from "$300 back", why would i pretend like i'm mircea_popescu?
12:08 mircea_popescu yeah, no argument with all that.
12:08 mircea_popescu use what works ; just don't infer things scale.
12:10 mircea_popescu they mostly don't, and the "i'm not about to use card in foreign skimreader slit" is unescapable policy in plenty of real life situations.
12:10 asciilifeform i left the cardz at home when i got on the plane.
12:11 phf i have a card that's linked to my spending account, where i have to explicitly go and transfer money from a different account. at most i'm standing to lose $5k or so
12:13 phf i find it convenient, that, so far, i was able to walk into branches in different parts of the world, and extract 2-3k at a time to cover me for a few days of vacation. sometimes i also get sloppy (3am, i'm drunk), so i'll pull money from atm in some dodgy location
12:13 mircea_popescu that's not what you most stand to lose. what you most stand to lose is this situation where you "lose it", and tell the bank to close it, which they won't, so have to be screamed at and threatened, so they "do", except they keep re-opening it as the charges keep coming in, over ~years~.
12:13 mircea_popescu so you keep having to scream and threaten, ie, half a mil over two decades.
12:14 mircea_popescu that's the problem with trusting us banking/anything really : they lie.
12:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: how's this work, you take out the money, and bank extends you line of credit against your will ?
12:14 mircea_popescu yes.
12:15 mircea_popescu and then keeps sending you overdraft notices, and on and on.
12:15 asciilifeform lulzy.
12:15 mircea_popescu very lulzy.
12:15 asciilifeform what's the court circus for a tort like this look like ?
12:15 phf the overdraft thing, i thought, is a feature, that you negotiate when you sign the contract
12:15 asciilifeform i'd naively suppose it'd be an open'n'shut case
12:16 mircea_popescu ~half mil over a coupla decades.
12:16 mircea_popescu phf depends. you mean "the overdraft thing" as a feature to serve you, or as a feature to serve them ?
12:16 asciilifeform phf: the 'they keep your closed acct secretly open so that spammers, in league with bank, can keep charging it' is not in any contract afaik.
12:16 mircea_popescu there's no "closed account" artefact, in spite of customer intuition to the contrary.
12:17 phf right
12:17 mircea_popescu just like there is no "fuck you and your alimony, until and unless customer signs you a checque you can go dangle"
12:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: elaborate re 'no closed account' ?
12:18 phf asciilifeform: i don't think that's "secret", that's somewhere in the contract that you sign with a visa network, which is separate from bank's contract
12:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what's to elaborate ? "item x does not exist" "but i think it does" "good for you and good luck with santa"
12:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: so, chump asks bank to close account, in actuality it never happens, if decade later some hobo digs through his rubbish bin and finds old chequebook, and tried to charge against it, bank will attempt to collect ?
12:20 phf asciilifeform: banks don't have to close the account, and if your account has been linked to visa, they have to keep it mandatory open for the duration of something like 10 years from your last transaction, which is how long visa network can claim a chargeback
12:20 * asciilifeform can see it.
12:20 asciilifeform phf: re visa thing, it is famous.
12:20 asciilifeform phf: i was thinking of 'civilian' accts.
12:21 phf civilian accounts are always linked to visa network by default "you can access your savings from this card too, ain't it swell"
12:21 asciilifeform chargebacks concern visa ~merchant~ acct, no ?
12:22 phf ah but you have to have the counterparty
12:23 asciilifeform so official smokescreen is 'must keep acct open in case mr konsoomer asks for refund on his shoes decade later' ?
12:23 mircea_popescu anyway, not to say that the patient, organised, large entity can't actually tailor something that works for them ; but for retail (ie, you're worth millions or less) customer to expect they get THAT by default is cruisin' for a bruisin'. which is not so much of a problem generally because the lifestyle of us peonry is very narrow anyway.
12:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no official smokescreen per se ; just, the us is predicated on "saying no is mean". what follows is soup.
12:25 mircea_popescu also the described hobo-rubbish thing actually happened irl. there's tons of sad stories of the middle class encountering us bank system.
12:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it is one of the reasons pretty much everyone in usa owns shredder machine
12:25 mircea_popescu yes, and also the reason pretty much everyone in mexico has dreamcatcher on wall.
12:25 asciilifeform (often laughably inadequate, but ~some~)
12:25 asciilifeform hey gotta trap them evil spirits somehow !
12:26 mircea_popescu quite.
12:26 asciilifeform rich folk buy the death ray from 'ghostbuster' i imagine.
12:26 asciilifeform 9000% moar power.
12:27 mircea_popescu in general, companies have a serious problem - because unless they're on the "official list google returns results from", the business case is rather weak - companies don't live too long. bank has little reason to try and salvage the business of an entity that lives on average under a decade.
12:28 asciilifeform i know a fella who saw a (1990s-era isp) business slowly sink due to an eternal visa chargeback rape, stemming originally from 1 single hack
12:28 mircea_popescu even something like apple - here today, gone tomorrow. alphabet inc was fdounded... 2015. ie it's not yet 2 years old. on it goes.
12:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: dunno, prolly at this point crapple is Official 'tbtf' member
12:29 mircea_popescu i'd expect yeah.
12:29 mircea_popescu generally, once the founder dies you can assume usg got it. just liek in roman empire.
12:29 asciilifeform if somehow (dun ask me how!) folks stop buyin' the pnoje - it'll be run on pure synthetic printolade oil, like, e.g., ford.
12:30 mircea_popescu or turner or etc. yep.
12:30 mircea_popescu in fact : people kinda stopped already.
12:30 mircea_popescu much like if you're aiming to tell me google makes 70bn a year out of people paying for online advertising...
12:30 asciilifeform last i recall they moved to this weird lease thing.
12:30 asciilifeform (paging at&t!!!)
12:30 mircea_popescu the whole market is not even 1% that, and mostly fed by very short lived foools
12:31 mircea_popescu (+the government of argentina - which is currently paying google money to advertise itself to me, in terms of "soberania". the lulz of this is apparently lost for every spanish speaking tard)
12:31 asciilifeform 'ma bell', leased phones, lizard folk aiming, apparently, for eternal rerun loop of ~1970s usa.
12:31 mircea_popescu but who knows, maybe if they give google its cut they'll be able to place bonds in a year or two again. paul graham has the details.
12:37 mircea_popescu anyway. the problem with the world that "magically" works is that if one day it magically stops working you're invited to go magically fuck yourself.
12:37 mircea_popescu magic can't be fixed.
12:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is quite true, but tautological - 'magic' is definitionally the set of things you can't pop the hood on and fix
12:48 mircea_popescu aha.
12:50 mircea_popescu tautology is the last ditch in the fight with they who do not wish to understand the plainly obvious. there's little more to be said to "i just want it to work" crowd than some tautology or other, because the problem in their head is exactly this : to them, it ISNT tautological.
12:51 * phf sits there sadly with his hsbc account
12:51 mircea_popescu lol i was talking in teh general. dun worry, has nothing to do with you.
12:52 phf it was my last link to jet setters, men of the world
12:53 mircea_popescu the deep problem is that any known implementation of division of labour imports magic.h
12:54 mircea_popescu so this is far from a resolved problem. no actual action is required of you ; merely the understanding suffices.
12:55 mircea_popescu (the most successful to date thing tried, to resolve this - commodification - is turning out to be worse a solution than no solution at all. between dicamba, alf's saw, my heater and hollywood movies, the point is pretty sorely obvious.)
12:56 mircea_popescu hence all the appeal of "colored coins" "dao" blablabla. to people with no experience or clue of reality whatsoever, it truly seems like a complete solution - commodification without the downsides!!!
12:58 mircea_popescu for everyone else - there's the wot. and the fucking important point from this view of republican history to date is just this : we've actually built a selection of magic spells that are both a) magic to the user and b) fixable through a definite process.
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13:21 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b7500d5a-d012-4f2b-9854-6cbaf6f8a19d/?raw=true << moar lulz.
13:28 asciilifeform qntra ddosed ?
13:28 asciilifeform (noticed considerable lag for a few days..)
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13:51 pete_dushenski mod6: no prob. send on over the v99994 url.
13:51 trinque $s V99994
13:51 a111 21 results for "V99994", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=V99994
13:52 trinque hm dun see it
13:52 thestringpuller "The share of people under 30 who own a business has fallen by 65 percent since the 1980s and is now at a quarter-century low, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Federal Reserve data."
13:52 pete_dushenski trinque: ya, i looked too
13:52 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: oof.
13:53 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521781 << this zooko ? the one that failed to launch usg.zcash ? >> http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/25/zcash-will-crash-just-like-gavincoin-garzikcoin-xt-segwit-and-classic-now-you-know/
13:53 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 12:11 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521770 << why isn't zooko in the wot, incidentally!
13:54 trinque pete_dushenski: http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99994.sh
13:54 trinque is what mod6 gave me
13:54 pete_dushenski cheers.
13:54 trinque 945bed24a93fdde2ab94b47503a00e40ec935faeb05a59a803315e24929d6dcd93d1e58ee18f1bbc6e11166d6a22425ba9c323d55f40d5700849e03eeb8291e5 /var/www/html/build-bitcoind-V99994.sh
13:55 pete_dushenski checks out
13:56 asciilifeform http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5020 < pickelhaube??!
14:01 covertress ;;later tell BingoBoingo said press release not yet approved by Lux Univ PR dept. was taste for TMSR eyes only.
14:01 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:15 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521789 << yeah twatter doesn't even work in my web browser anymore-- can only use it from my phone. As for the "abstinence only," I wish such a girl existed. Who has ever met such a thing?
14:15 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 12:34 mircea_popescu: dude fucking twitter is unreadable now. most of the screen is a "promoted tweet" which 1) has exactly nothing to do with anything and 2) is exactly the sort of slimy, anticool, "here's me being sexy - with a hoodie" stupidity. it's like all the girls that dedicated their adolescence to "abstinence only" moved on to "corporate advertising / governance" or some shit.
14:16 shinohai i thought mircea_popescu proved that `promoted tweets` was garbage ?
14:17 danielpbarron hm? I'm not defending anything about twatter
14:17 danielpbarron the whole thing stinks
14:17 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-14#1521703 << sure
14:17 a111 Logged on 2016-08-14 23:03 mod6: ;;later tell danielpbarron You wanna help the Foundation test the latest V99994 incantation?
14:19 phf join twitter to join conversation
14:21 trinque danielpbarron: I met plenty in tx public school
14:21 trinque they were the uggo chicks nobody wanted to fuck anyway
14:22 danielpbarron yeah well that hardly counts, does it?
14:25 trinque what is this hypothetical other version of the abstinent chick?
14:26 danielpbarron the kind you'd want to marry
14:27 danielpbarron it's not really abstinence if nobody was trying to get at you anyway
14:28 danielpbarron whole point is turning away most of the suitors
14:28 trinque that describes a property of you, not a property of her
14:28 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-18#1326704
14:28 a111 Logged on 2015-11-18 22:29 phf: they call him the elusive joe. -- nobody can catch him? -- nobody cares to
14:28 trinque heh!
14:28 danielpbarron 1) someone i'd want to fuck that 2) hasn't already been fucked
14:28 danielpbarron because 3) has a father who cares
14:29 trinque that's like waiting to get a job when the job for your True Self (TM) comes along
14:29 asciilifeform meanwhile, in the land of gullible nitwits, https://theshadowbrokers.tumblr.com
14:29 danielpbarron no, because a job you must have. A wife, not.
14:29 asciilifeform 'How much you pay for enemies cyber weapons? Not malware you find in networks. Both sides, RAT + LP, full state sponsor tool set? We find cyber weapons made by creators of stuxnet, duqu, flame. Kaspersky calls Equation Group. We follow Equation Group traffic. We find Equation Group source range. We hack Equation Group. We find many many Equation Group cyber weapons. You see pictures. We give you some Equation Group files free, you se
14:29 asciilifeform e. This is good proof no? You enjoy!!! You break many things. You find many intrusions. You write many words. But not all, we are auction the best files.'
14:29 trinque danielpbarron: I'm speaking from her perspective, not yours
14:30 danielpbarron ok, but in that case all these fuckable girls would be married. They aren't, however. They just get passed around.
14:31 danielpbarron my argument isn't that they should wait for mr. perfect. My argument is that they should stick with whoever got her first
14:31 phf whachamacallit, "riding the cock carousel"
14:35 trinque danielpbarron: "should" leaves your argument to stand upon a "because reasons".
14:35 danielpbarron because otherwise they are harlots
14:36 trinque she doesn't stick around (and she's not psychologically miswired) it's probably because you suck
14:36 trinque not her
14:37 danielpbarron i'm not necessarily describing girls that have left me, although they do exist
14:37 phf trinque: presumably the argument is that she gets through a lot of sucky people before she gets to you, at which point you're not interested
14:37 danielpbarron surely it is the failure of men when this happens. I do not blame the girls, for they are the "weaker vessels"
14:37 asciilifeform interestingly, the 'free file' in earlier link contains what appears to be massive collection of nsa exploit installers
14:37 asciilifeform some with commented src.
14:37 danielpbarron phf, yes.
14:37 trinque because what, defiled by cockessence?
14:38 danielpbarron yes.
14:38 trinque pffflol
14:40 asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/crapola.tar.gz for anyone interested.
14:40 asciilifeform sha512==c5e1f808b06b3530d3bb84c965cdae7b6a1b88fa3dddf93f6e6b98418ae4a25dcab99c54bb4936fccd616c2fe8ab9b2b9503e8b1a70d2e2188cd252d0630ff96
14:41 danielpbarron not only is she defiled, so is the land. It's a violent act to separate what God has joined. I have a blog article that's nearly finished about just this.
14:44 trinque sexual competition is biologically required; she's doing her job, man.
14:45 danielpbarron death is biologically required
~ 22 minutes ~
15:08 ben_vulpes danielpbarron: is even more cock0phobic than asciilifeform !
15:08 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: can't stand cocks in his porn, danielpbarron can't stand his cock touching a cunt that might have had other cocks in it!
15:09 ben_vulpes post birth control, girls do not say no to cool guys.
15:10 phf ben_vulpes: http://media.salon.com/2014/03/scott_rnc_ad.jpg
15:11 ben_vulpes gross what is that
15:12 phf post birth control cool guy
15:13 trinque danielpbarron should have no problem with him; his swimmers won't be able to go the distance
15:13 trinque castration by skinny jeans
15:13 phf somehow you can't just hold one variable, just cause you will it to be so. them dependency graphs find SAT, and the solution is might surprise you!
15:14 asciilifeform unrelated, but hilarious, http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/Suit-warns-of-Russian-back-door-into-U-S-9140446.php >> 'Their suit says Morpho and Safran defrauded the U.S. government and the state of California by falsely claiming their technology as French rather than Russian, violating antitrust laws and presenting false claims for payment.'
15:26 danielpbarron phf, it's no cool guy who would ditch her afterwards
15:27 danielpbarron err, ben_vulpes rather
~ 21 minutes ~
15:49 asciilifeform lel, buncha magic packet senders in there.
15:50 asciilifeform largely against pre-diddled (but i repeat myself) ciscos.
15:52 asciilifeform also a linux/solaris very classical 'rootkit' and remote orifice client
15:52 asciilifeform (supports process hide, log cleansing, all of the 1990s fare.)
~ 27 minutes ~
16:20 ben_vulpes danielpbarron: your "cool" and her "cool" have ~epsilon to do with each other
16:23 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521973 << ok this is sad. intelligence by regexp, really ?
16:23 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 17:21 asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/b7500d5a-d012-4f2b-9854-6cbaf6f8a19d/?raw=true << moar lulz.
16:24 mircea_popescu "HPSCI had broadly stated that it could withhold any document containing unclassified discussion on any topic that had been considered in executive session during Plaintiff’s 17 years of service, as opposed to protecting the substance of Committee proceedings. For instance, this allegedly would apply to any discussion of any budget issue at any time."
16:24 mircea_popescu nice. lol.
16:25 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521980 << exclude "online business" made up of a linked-in profile and vps/shared/free hosted website, and it's 10x to 100x worse.
16:25 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 17:52 thestringpuller: "The share of people under 30 who own a business has fallen by 65 percent since the 1980s and is now at a quarter-century low, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Federal Reserve data."
16:25 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521983 << zooko triangle zooko.
16:25 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 17:53 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521781 << this zooko ? the one that failed to launch usg.zcash ? >> http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/25/zcash-will-crash-just-like-gavincoin-garzikcoin-xt-segwit-and-classic-now-you-know/
16:26 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522002 <.
16:26 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 18:21 trinque: they were the uggo chicks nobody wanted to fuck anyway
16:27 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522013 << go to iran.
16:27 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 18:28 danielpbarron: because 3) has a father who cares
16:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522015 << what's this, the stick shit on all sides of lulz department ?
16:29 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 18:29 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the land of gullible nitwits, https://theshadowbrokers.tumblr.com
16:30 pete_dushenski mod6: pleased to report that 99994k spins up on deb7 without fuss. only comment would be on 'trb-howto' to suggest '-lows' command when booting bitcoind for the first time.
16:30 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522021 << this is a very naive view, based on the behaviour of poor beta bois. girls get "passed around" until they meet the right guy. who generally doesn't give much of a shit who she fucks per se ; , but who does make her unavailable for teaming up with rando kids.
16:30 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 18:31 danielpbarron: my argument isn't that they should wait for mr. perfect. My argument is that they should stick with whoever got her first
16:31 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: arite.
16:34 pete_dushenski "Japan’s central bank is set to become the top shareholder of 55 companies in the Nikkei" << this can only be good for fiat
16:34 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522057 << I do not care what she thinks is cool. As I said already, the onus is on the guys; the girls are the commodity being used improperly
16:34 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 20:20 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: your "cool" and her "cool" have ~epsilon to do with each other
16:35 ben_vulpes one cannot use a commodity improperly.
16:35 ben_vulpes one may kill a thing one owns.
16:35 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522033 << the idea is not entirely without merit. people are entirely made up of their heuristics ; much like a child who spent the language-formative years among orangoutans will never make a great tenor, writer or public speaker ; just so a girl who spent the heuristic-formative years among retards will never make a good whore, spymaster or etc.
16:35 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 18:37 trinque: because what, defiled by cockessence?
16:36 mircea_popescu whether she fucks them or not is immaterial, however. hence my recomendation of iran : he might discover that in a hundred smoking hot virgin babes, thereby fitting his bill as stated, there's not a single one worth the hassle.
16:36 danielpbarron http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522068 << hey, the muslims get a lot of things correct. But The Bible says not to seek a wife, so it's hardly a good reason to move
16:36 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 20:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522013 << go to iran.
16:37 asciilifeform ;;later tell trinque i think deedbot may be actually broken. e.g., where is http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0648EBDEEF3F210D6A081115BD29DC916FCC304D6839A0D142993D704EACB182 ?
16:37 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:38 trinque yep, I will write a from-scratch RSS thing sometime this week.
16:38 trinque as apparently this is required.
16:38 pete_dushenski http://mcmansionhell.tumblr.com/post/148605513816/mcmansions-101-what-makes-a-mcmansion-bad << muricans can't figure out proportions and balance at any level. not political, nor architectural, nor anywhere else for that matter. they've no eye for the aesthetic.
16:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522070 << the 'sample' goodies box, strangely enough, appears to be genuine (if quite uninteresting, imho.) and previously unpublished. fwiw.
16:38 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 20:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522015 << what's this, the stick shit on all sides of lulz department ?
16:39 asciilifeform trinque: it worked great before... what changed ?
16:40 mircea_popescu danielpbarron so move to admire the classical civilisation. lotta stuff worth seeing in the middle east.
16:40 trinque asciilifeform: nada
16:40 danielpbarron meh
16:40 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522090 << i was expecting to read about cardboard, prefab sheetboard, poisonous insulation, 1,001 actual things, and instead reading feng shui garbage ?
16:40 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 20:38 pete_dushenski: http://mcmansionhell.tumblr.com/post/148605513816/mcmansions-101-what-makes-a-mcmansion-bad << muricans can't figure out proportions and balance at any level. not political, nor architectural, nor anywhere else for that matter. they've no eye for the aesthetic.
16:41 mircea_popescu what's with you people and tumblr lately anyway!
16:41 mircea_popescu o shit, it's from me linking the pronz isnt it.
16:41 danielpbarron what I don't get is how the "cool guys" as you put it don't mind that their girls have been "passed around"
16:41 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: greek architectural theories are chinese now ??
16:42 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: in exactly the same sense that melamine in biscuits is chinese.
16:42 mircea_popescu because she's not made of soap! to be an athlete you gotta work out ; to be a cunthlete you gotta put out.
16:42 danielpbarron so ~you~ work them out
16:42 mircea_popescu you can't keep up with a woman.
16:42 danielpbarron i cannot fathom why anyone would want her to be trained by other guys
16:42 danielpbarron me specifically?
16:43 mircea_popescu me either ; it's a male thing.
16:43 trinque danielpbarron: it's an insecurity, i.e. "if she has had other dick onoes she might think of that dick at some point"
16:43 trinque so what?!
16:43 danielpbarron mircea_popescu, do you not keep up with a harem of women?
16:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but they're not 16yos!
16:43 danielpbarron i don't care what ~she~ thinks
16:43 mircea_popescu yes, women can and will downregulate. but that's later in life.
16:44 mircea_popescu no idea why i highlighted alf lol. anyway.
16:44 trinque if not in her mind, where does the specter of cock-defilement live
16:44 danielpbarron in the mind of whoever she fucked, and in the nation, and the land itself
16:44 trinque in the fucking nation
16:45 trinque so now her cunt belongs to us all equally?
16:45 asciilifeform how about the cock calibration vernier.
16:45 asciilifeform as described by mircea_popescu .
16:45 mircea_popescu eh get out of here. it's not so simple as all that. recall that famous japanese chick that fucked some dude to stick a stilleto in his brain because he had won a war / killed her father ?
16:45 mircea_popescu "i fucked her" is not a scalar value.
16:45 danielpbarron trinque, no it belongs to her father at first, and then to her husband
16:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522064 << it is the same zooko as in pete_dushenski's article !
16:47 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 20:25 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1521983 << zooko triangle zooko.
16:47 asciilifeform yes, with the idiot altcoin
16:47 asciilifeform lacking a pgp sig, at the very least i will say that the 'two' zookos appear to share a name and a biography.
16:48 mircea_popescu if he were in wot there's hope he wouldn't be doing stupid shit.
16:48 asciilifeform (and yes prolly the same zooko as appears in my blog commentz.)
16:48 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: melamine biscuits are besides the point. the point is that muricans manifestly suck at not only using name materials like brick and stone, instead preferring shitboard, but that they can't even assemble them into anything coherent. really just a reiteration of the old 'garbage in, garbage out' adage i guess.
16:48 pete_dushenski s/sane/name
16:48 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i find the focus on the cosmetic when the functional elements are 'dangerous to self and to others' in 1,001 ways, to be also a typically american lunacy.
16:49 asciilifeform and the article exemplifies it.
16:49 asciilifeform 'this ford pinto has a scratched bumper and torpedo, eww. oh and also it will cremate you in a crash, just so y'know'
16:50 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: the article is merely observing that 48yo pack-a-day smoking whoor looks black inside ~and~ outside
16:50 pete_dushenski they're deeply related.
16:51 asciilifeform what i read in there is a lie by omission.
16:51 asciilifeform and palpable implication that 'if it had correct feng shui, it would not be 'mc' mansion.'
16:52 asciilifeform discussing the 'aesthetics' of cardboard house is quite like putting spoilers on a trabant.
16:52 asciilifeform it isn't a thing.
16:53 asciilifeform trinque: do i misunderstand, or you were saying that rss worked great for months, then stopped entirely mysteriously, and there is no clue re why ??
16:53 asciilifeform and NOTHING was changed in the code ?
16:55 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: except if you had spoilers on a trabant, you'd be forced to ask 'why do those need to be there' to which the answer is 'oh because the car is dreadfully engineered and will lose stability and traction above 50mph'
16:55 trinque asciilifeform: yeah. thing's 39 lines using feedparser. braindead simple loop.
16:55 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: lawnmower engine at 50mph?!
16:56 pete_dushenski that the mcmansion is designed by children who failed ~technologist~ programs (not even architecture school) is indicative of deeper rot.
16:56 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: fine. 20mph.
16:56 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it has very little to do with designers, and much to do with availability of materials, and likewise usg mandates.
16:56 pete_dushenski bicycle doesn't need spoilers at that speed but trabant does ? this is a problem.
16:56 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: and if you think that spoilers of whatever kind have any effect at 20mph...
16:57 asciilifeform it doesn't! example concerned idiot 'aesthetificating' on top of a thoroughly broken construction.
16:57 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: recall the thread where mircea_popescu described phriend who went to usa and tried to have a proper house built ?
16:57 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: don't anchor to the numbers... i only brought them up to overcome your lawnmower nonsense
16:57 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: trabant ran on lawnmower engine. fact.
16:58 pete_dushenski and still had top speed of 62mph
16:58 mircea_popescu you can still find two stroke lawn mowers ?!
16:59 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: my wheelbarrow also can do 62mph - downhill...
16:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: right here in the land of the phreee
16:59 mircea_popescu i dunno what trabant did 100km/h. maybe in lab conditions, engine on bench sort of theory.
16:59 asciilifeform i think BingoBoingo has whole collection
17:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i thought it was all either electric or else 4stroke for the ride-on stuff. 2strioke is such loud, smoky nonsense...
17:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the smaller lawn machines are ~all 2stroke here.
17:00 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: hm don't recall mp's bud's housebuilding thread
17:00 mircea_popescu they may be verboten in yurp
17:01 pete_dushenski 2-stroke is common in orclandnorth. seen in snowblowers, leafblowers, etc.
17:01 pete_dushenski a blight i'd love to see die.
17:01 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522049 << this is actually the controlling point. for all the theoretical theory of how "woman" should be ; you're still going to meet individual women with which it works or it doesn't. plenty of cases "the wrong" works way better than the theoretical best, even if present (which it oft isn;t)
17:01 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 19:13 phf: somehow you can't just hold one variable, just cause you will it to be so. them dependency graphs find SAT, and the solution is might surprise you!
17:03 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNhvpui3_p0<< irl trabant 601cc top speed. 117kph
17:03 mircea_popescu lmao check out the nox trabi
17:04 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c3hQ6_-zzA << that's nothing compared to trabant 1.4. >150kph!
17:04 asciilifeform trabambourghini!1111
17:04 mircea_popescu dunno man... i'm thinking more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
17:04 pete_dushenski might be engine swap
17:04 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: reliant robin ?
17:05 pete_dushenski aha.
17:05 pete_dushenski classic tg episode.
17:07 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy
17:07 mircea_popescu anyway, i don't dispute that with care, and expert handling, even a stock trabant might, on perfect roads, safely drive 100km/h briefly.
17:07 mircea_popescu however, the actual artefact of the time in the context of its time was maybe capable of 80, and otherwise liked the 50/55/60 limits.
17:10 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: found l0gz, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-04#546040
17:10 a111 Logged on 2014-03-04 22:05 mircea_popescu: romanian friends went to us, bought land, proceeded to build (proper) house
17:10 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: reading!
17:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-12#827553 << see also.
17:11 a111 Logged on 2014-09-12 15:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the case of the people making that very cheap wholly natural house, being ordered to destroy it ?
17:12 pete_dushenski crazy... mp's pal must've been in new suburb. most every city in orcland has 'old' 'established' neighbourhoods with 100+yo mansions allowing if not even requiring 'proper' house to be built. ofc, land values in such areas are astronomical.
17:12 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: 'established' typically allows whatever, so long as it was standing prior to 19xx or when.
17:13 pete_dushenski ;;tlsb
17:13 gribble Error: "tlsb" is not a valid command.
17:13 pete_dushenski $tlsb
17:13 pete_dushenski ;;tslb
17:13 gribble Time since last block: 58 minutes and 52 seconds
17:13 pete_dushenski that's the ticket
17:13 trinque someone sacrifice a virgin to the chaos god
17:13 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: and in usa, you can typically build ~whatever in rural pissholes, or in 'industrial' zone. but ~nobody wants to live there.
17:14 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: country estates in airstrip one work just fine in 'rural pisshole'
17:15 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i know a fella who built himself 'country estate' in wv.
17:15 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: you oughta see his ping time.
17:16 pete_dushenski i oughta see duke of westminster's ping time too
17:16 asciilifeform (and, iirc, when it rains, it is == infinity.)
17:17 pete_dushenski http://takimag.com/article/a_hot_month_for_clintons_body_count_gavin_mcinnes/print << light overview of clintler internal kill count.
17:18 pete_dushenski 'having accidents' is the new heroine od.
17:19 pete_dushenski ;;tslb
17:19 gribble Time since last block: 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 24 seconds
17:21 asciilifeform $s arkencide
17:21 a111 2 results for "arkencide", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=arkencide
17:22 asciilifeform https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater/qBVPNvLPjxw/L18xF9cmS7EJ << subj.
17:22 pete_dushenski damn. ya.
17:23 pete_dushenski the list just keeps growing.
17:31 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2013-05-08#19757 << record-setter from the logs. 38 mins to go to match it.
17:31 a111 Logged on 2013-05-08 01:55 gribble: Time since last block: 1 hour, 55 minutes, and 38 seconds
17:33 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: also it looks like block spamfilling is in fashion again.
17:33 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2013-05-08#19773 << a bit longer even. same block.
17:33 a111 Logged on 2013-05-08 02:18 gribble: Time since last block: 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 59 seconds
17:34 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: like round trotskyite eyeglasses, these things come and go.
17:34 asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/2016/08/nsa-malware-scripts.zip << docs, apparently, from http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522091 earlier.
17:34 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 20:38 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522070 << the 'sample' goodies box, strangely enough, appears to be genuine (if quite uninteresting, imho.) and previously unpublished. fwiw.
17:36 asciilifeform 'scripts' is misnomer, these are docs, mainly concerning the patching of fw in proprietary shitware (e.g., cisco, fortinet)
17:41 asciilifeform http://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-bitfinex-idUSKCN10Q0DQ << moar lulz.
17:41 asciilifeform 'Imposing losses on customers who were not hacked appears to go against the company's terms of service, said Ryan Straus, a Fenwick & West lawyer who advises financial technology companies ...'
17:51 pete_dushenski ;;tslb
17:51 gribble Time since last block: 1 hour, 36 minutes, and 38 seconds
17:57 ben_vulpes cartel!1!
17:58 trinque ;;bc,stats
17:58 gribble Current Blocks: 425379 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 2012 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 16 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
18:07 asciilifeform ;;tslb
18:08 gribble Time since last block: 5 minutes and 24 seconds
18:08 asciilifeform snore.
18:14 phf for a person who dreams of sleep ad libitum you sure snore a lot
18:14 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6c8e3e6a-fcae-4736-87cf-eb20579317ac/
18:15 asciilifeform phf: i've been sleeping ad libitun since mid-may.
18:15 asciilifeform *libitum
18:15 phf :)
18:21 pete_dushenski http://olympics.cbc.ca/video/vod/full-replay-men-100m-olympic-final.html << 9.80 for usain bolt.
18:35 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522188 << the way this works is you go in "new" place, build for century, wait for civilisation to catch up, $profit.
18:35 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 21:12 pete_dushenski: crazy... mp's pal must've been in new suburb. most every city in orcland has 'old' 'established' neighbourhoods with 100+yo mansions allowing if not even requiring 'proper' house to be built. ofc, land values in such areas are astronomical.
18:35 mircea_popescu only ustard will go into "high value", watch that erode from under their feet.
18:37 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522233 << o hey, dreams come true ? tell me how does it pheel...
18:37 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 22:15 asciilifeform: phf: i've been sleeping ad libitun since mid-may.
18:42 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: define "new" ?
18:43 mircea_popescu it's complicated, esp in the states. in romania much more trivial a point, growth pattern of cities quite obvious.
18:44 mircea_popescu but the idea is that you want to be 10-20 years early to the party. much like you know, if you're gonna rent out fuckspace at burning man, best go there a day early park the van right.
18:46 pete_dushenski this 10-20 jump ahead of the 'cool' kids i've seen work here as well. currently 50-60s neighbourhoods are the attractive ones for $profit here.
18:47 mircea_popescu much easier to pull off in places that had historically insane restraints on land development which just went away. a lot harder to do in places which are increasingly insane.
18:49 pete_dushenski the neat thing about places (like edm) that are increasingly insane is that the definition of 'what's central' continues to expand as the peripheries explode across the prairie landscape.
18:49 pete_dushenski everything's relative and all that
18:49 pete_dushenski bbias
~ 38 minutes ~
19:28 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: ty, coda has been rehumored
19:29 pete_dushenski lol sweet title
19:29 pete_dushenski missing period at the end tho.
19:30 pete_dushenski or not eh. nvm.
19:30 pete_dushenski i see what you did there!
19:35 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/08/fda-prepares-to-regulate-literal-shitware/ << Qntra - FDA Prepares To Regulate Literal Shitware
19:39 BingoBoingo lol
19:40 BingoBoingo Anyway pete ty for adding coverage of another life science today.
19:43 pete_dushenski avec plaisir, monsieur!
19:46 * pete_dushenski just waited 3 hrs for tx conf with 0.00022 fee. "bitcoin is the worst form of e-payments, except for all the rest." (tm) (r)
19:47 mircea_popescu in other buttprobing news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/a627461503eba0e91ba810b4d19ed847/tumblr_mqieovS7pn1s8za73o1_500.gif
19:48 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522240 << not my first, nor even second jailbreak.
19:48 a111 Logged on 2016-08-15 22:37 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-15#1522233 << o hey, dreams come true ? tell me how does it pheel...
19:58 pete_dushenski http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?8116417-Communist-cars-Retro-Museum-Varna-Bulgaria << for misty-eyed sovietophiles. featuring trabant 2-stroke on floor(!) and 'pravetz' computadors.
20:01 pete_dushenski https://jimholroyd365d.wordpress.com/2013/12/10/made-in-the-ussr/ << and some toyz.
20:14 pete_dushenski https://medium.com/@nntaled/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.7oipsx4yk << featuring profile pic of nnt in what appears to be a santa hat.
~ 15 minutes ~
20:29 * pete_dushenski to dine on the town.
20:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform a really ? well cool then
20:44 mircea_popescu "Studying individual ants will never (one can safely say never for most such situations), never give us an idea on how the ant colony operates. For that, one needs to understand an ant colony as an ant colony, no less, no more, not a collection of ants." aaaand we lose interest.
20:45 mircea_popescu fucking collection of ignoramuses.
20:47 mircea_popescu (likbez : ant worker is not genetically distinct from ant queen. epigenetics (mostly, env factors - as in feed) make the fenotypical distinction. consequently yes, whole anthill, as far as its underlying mechanics go, is found in each worker ant, all you have to do is sequence the dna and explore the possibilities. that such is currently a computationally prohibitive task is not relevant to the discussion.)
20:51 mircea_popescu (likbez #2 : ant colony, nature's finest example of star topology, is for this reason uniquely bad example for the (correctly defined) "complex system". the boom-bust cycle of rabbits and other small rodents much better examples. complex systems are made of like parts, not worker-queen sorta nonsense.)
20:52 mircea_popescu (likbez #3 : that the socialist shithead can not think of anything because too obsessed with anthill fetish should be informative as to his braindamage)
20:52 mircea_popescu so there, biology, system theory, political science and psychanalysis!
20:52 asciilifeform usedtobe they were fixated on bees
20:53 asciilifeform why, i wonder, now ant.
20:53 mircea_popescu yeah ; but they meanwhile figured out that bees produce honey, and noticed their drones produce nothing.
20:53 asciilifeform that was my thought.
20:53 mircea_popescu i don't mean figured out in any sense but guy de maupassan'ts "animal instinct of peasants"
20:53 asciilifeform well yes.
20:53 asciilifeform how else.
20:53 mircea_popescu right.
20:54 mircea_popescu termite colony in fact uniquely valuable model for us.
20:54 mircea_popescu "table is solid - doesn't fall"
20:55 asciilifeform 'so let's chew, chew some moar.'
20:55 thestringpuller so. I'm pretty sure the lulz cows want us to clean up the room.
20:55 thestringpuller for them.
20:55 mircea_popescu chew shares likely to grow for the foreseable future off permanently elevated plateau.
21:00 asciilifeform soooo why is taleb on 'medium'..?
21:00 asciilifeform was, unknown to me, tumblr user, and it broke ?
21:03 phf medium is hot new publishing platform. everyone is using it.
21:04 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/1eD4
21:04 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:06 ben_vulpes livejournal 4.9?
21:06 mircea_popescu fucking idiots.
21:06 phf join medium to join conversation
21:06 mircea_popescu you are triggering me.
21:07 ben_vulpes "with myyyy finger! on youuuuur trigger!" (tm) (r) beatles
21:08 * phf puts on a yarmulka and starts dancing
21:08 mircea_popescu in better news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/3b4c0f2726ab36808dc5508fbe2cb8e7/tumblr_moht1iWQtt1qg7xwvo1_500.gif
21:09 asciilifeform in yet other noose, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEWyGTmahhk
21:09 asciilifeform 'BOZENA RIOT is a remotely operated, armored vehicle designed to handle riots and mobs in the streets and urbanized areas. The system offers a solution for both protecting the law-enforcement units in action and controlling the situation whenever peace maintenance is required. The machine's design follows the concept of the BOZENA 4 demining system, which has been in use in various countries across Europe, Africa...'
21:09 mircea_popescu does it hold up to dog piss ?
21:10 asciilifeform only 1 way to find out...
21:12 phf asciilifeform: first predicted in half life 3, http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/images/c/c5/D1_trainstation_02001.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090705205045&path-prefix=en
21:12 asciilifeform built-in shotgun, gas sprayer... what's not to luvvvv
21:12 mircea_popescu anyway. the generals are figthing last war ; the notion that anyone wants or needs physical body agglomeration for any purpose is ridoinculous.
21:12 mircea_popescu the revolution ain't gonna be in the street.
21:13 thestringpuller phf: you mean half life 2
21:13 thestringpuller unless you were making a joke
21:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: dunno that it has much to do with 'revolutions', it's more of a pour la canaille faut la mitraille sort of thing.
21:14 phf thestringpuller: i lost count
21:14 mircea_popescu i guess. ironically - the govt really should luv a "riot" in this sense. those are its people, should just go with them.
21:14 mircea_popescu the enemy is not there.
21:15 mircea_popescu but hey, the clue store doesn't take filthy fiat.
21:15 thestringpuller phf: ironically, humans lost control of their own planet. it wasn't humans making those checkpoints.
21:15 thestringpuller perhaps asciilifeform is onto something about this delizardification
21:18 mircea_popescu holy shit, check out this dude : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9rCD7L8b_c
21:18 mircea_popescu ~30 yo, fully hunchback, "marketing director" ? that country's fucked.
21:21 phf thestringpuller: personally i'm partial to venusian conspiracy
21:35 mod6 <+pete_dushenski> mod6: pleased to report that 99994k spins up on deb7 without fuss. only comment would be on 'trb-howto' to suggest '-lows' command when booting bitcoind for the first time. << hey! Thanks for testing that!
21:37 mod6 <+danielpbarron> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-14#1521703 << sure << did ya see just above where trinque posted the script & the hash? test the same way you would with V99995. shouldn't need to do anything different.
21:37 a111 Logged on 2016-08-14 23:03 mod6: ;;later tell danielpbarron You wanna help the Foundation test the latest V99994 incantation?
21:45 mod6 <+trinque> pete_dushenski: http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99994.sh << <+trinque> 945bed24a93fdde2ab94b47503a00e40ec935faeb05a59a803315e24929d6dcd93d1e58ee18f1bbc6e11166d6a22425ba9c323d55f40d5700849e03eeb8291e5 /var/www/html/build-bitcoind-V99994.sh << thanks for posting trinque
21:46 trinque yw
21:52 mod6 ;;bc,stats
21:52 gribble Current Blocks: 425399 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 1992 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 weeks, 0 days, 7 hours, 56 minutes, and 32 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
21:53 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-16#1522318 << holyshit, how do you end up like this
21:53 a111 Logged on 2016-08-16 01:18 mircea_popescu: ~30 yo, fully hunchback, "marketing director" ? that country's fucked.
~ 18 minutes ~
22:12 phf i feel like tmsr needs a bard, whatever happened to vexual
22:17 asciilifeform he's around.
22:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i suspect laptop.
22:19 mircea_popescu phf cat-toonist better. sadly, all the chicks are being silly.
22:20 mircea_popescu meanwhile in 1970, http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9l40tsYTJ1rv4jkoo1_1280.jpg
22:21 asciilifeform l0l crapple kbd circa 201
22:21 asciilifeform 2001
22:21 mircea_popescu shhh
22:21 phf i had that phone
22:22 mircea_popescu that's the pivotal part :D
22:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22holy%22 << turns out fuck is slightly holier than shit.
22:22 asciilifeform i still have it !
22:22 asciilifeform motherfucking phone.
22:26 phf huh, i only used holy once
22:26 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-12#1431247
22:26 a111 Logged on 2016-03-12 17:03 phf: also, holy mother of logs
22:26 mircea_popescu yeah, mother is a distant third
22:26 phf holy mother of logs is the only holy thing for a citizen of tmsr (unless they are, of course, danielpbarron)
22:31 mircea_popescu holy buncha pottymouths.
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