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00:28 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
00:28 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 655.25, vol: 2630.92183602 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 647.211, vol: 4001.66338 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 657.02, vol: 12676.36115708 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 657.901809, vol: 76873.47370000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 656.9, vol: 1758.9881738 | Volume-weighted last average: 657.261650545
00:36 mircea_popescu i wonder what happened to all the derps who went on about how bitcoin ain't stable enough.
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00:38 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510691 << they jizzed in their pants when it spiked from the 400s and are still cleaning up??
00:38 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 04:36 mircea_popescu: i wonder what happened to all the derps who went on about how bitcoin ain't stable enough.
00:38 asciilifeform or does 'not stable' count only falls.
00:42 asciilifeform i dun pray to satan to ask that btc be magically nailed to usd, but words - incl. 'stable' - have meanings..!
00:45 BingoBoingo Are you sure it is stable and not s-table?
00:52 mircea_popescu just funny how topics are of interest or not according to you know, political expediency.
00:52 * mircea_popescu occasionalyl goes by poor people summons in this city, asking obrero women to gather for classes in home economics, how to not get beaten by husband, and "vegetarian" cooking.
00:53 mircea_popescu great to be a vegetarian when one can't afford to buy meat.
00:54 mircea_popescu "vegetarian - just like $random-ustarian-starlet. for different reasons altogether, but who's cuntin'."
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01:21 BingoBoingo Since the cops are exonerated, for alf http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-dirt-bike-website-20160727-story.html
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02:16 BingoBoingo From the mines: "Ms. Dyspnea: "Bullshit. I asked the nurse if I could just get the oxygen in my IV, and she said she couldn't do that. We all know she could just take off this stupid mask and plug it into my IV instead." "
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03:50 danielpbarron $v C74752B5009BFBAC8EECB1901227524938A98C25F6ED19F017F6479862C9DC06
03:50 deedbot danielpbarron rated Jybrael 1 << Euloran
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06:25 thestringpuller ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/18fF
06:25 gribble The operation succeeded.
~ 3 hours 38 minutes ~
10:03 mircea_popescu $key jybrael
10:03 deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/3ef696f8-4f36-4c64-9ee3-f83625bb42ee/
10:05 shinohai ;;bc, stats
10:05 gribble Error: "bc," is not a valid command.
10:05 shinohai ;;bc,stats
10:05 gribble Current Blocks: 422608 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 751 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 12 hours, 31 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
10:05 shinohai gm #trilema
10:11 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://archive.is/D1pX4 <<< latest tool in St. Louis PD arsenal
10:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:12 shinohai Nothing says "we're sorry for shooting ya'll" like free ice cream.
10:14 mircea_popescu loller.
10:16 mircea_popescu in other penis news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/32743ef89e3eaa82309fd1ddd5c5e959/tumblr_ncf9jke3w71st7pw8o1_400.gif
10:21 mircea_popescu http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2016/6/14/having-student-debt-helped-me-find-myself/ << "slavery is the definitive formative experience for the female. but GOTTA NOT BE TO A MAN!!11 anything, everything, no matter that it doesn't work or make sense. I WILL NEVER SUBMIT!!11eleventy"
10:21 mircea_popescu fucking idiots already.
10:21 mircea_popescu this sort of femtard is approximately equal to the "driving expert" who spends most of her time on her bike watching the cars go by from behind the fence.
10:21 mircea_popescu what approximately. EXACTLY.
10:34 BingoBoingo Not to mention signs up for all this debt to... what? Pay for "memories" other people are getting 4Phree?
10:36 BingoBoingo Not to mention at a place with protests, but not real protests
10:36 mircea_popescu memories my fuckstick.
10:37 mircea_popescu the neurotic mind of the typical millennial is incapable of what you and i call memory just like the brainfried derps on wall street are incapable of banking. pokemon go, "revolutionizing", stuff like that. but "housewife" can't fucking cook and college student can't fucking remember.
10:39 asciilifeform '25,000. That’s the number of single dollar bills that I will eventually have to pay back. ' << wtf
10:40 asciilifeform that aint even money
10:40 asciilifeform 200k is moar typical
10:41 asciilifeform and why the mention of paper bills...?
10:41 mircea_popescu it is money for slave.
10:42 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Probably "thinks" it has 25kilo dollars in debt
10:42 asciilifeform +usury
10:43 mircea_popescu anyway, you gotta make room in the model for the me-toos, who are most of it by weight. for every whewish princess that goes to vassar / wesleyan "cuz that's where hillary sent her kids" bla bla and blows "cost my parents about 250k... about 10k a year" on chinese calligraphy and clowning double major,
10:43 mircea_popescu there's a hundred to a thousand daughters of "single parent" families with fucking siblings, ie, whoredaughters, who instead of joining their mother's brothel go to "community college" and end up with just about enough "college debt" to cover a decent party weekend. IN FOUR YEARS.
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10:44 asciilifeform sounds like a buyer's market!111
10:44 asciilifeform if anyone needed them for anything.
10:44 mircea_popescu everything's a buyer's market once money actually exists. which is so fucking important for the stupid party that money doesn't exist.
10:45 mircea_popescu commerce is not all need. who NEEDED pomodori or spices? yet these non-needs drove the age of trade.
10:45 asciilifeform tru
10:45 mircea_popescu (tomato is called goldenfruit in italian because they saw it first, and when they saw it the shit cost its weight in gold pretty much)
10:47 mircea_popescu anyway, i look forward to the reintroduction of that ancient italian tradition of the whore family.
10:47 mircea_popescu about fucking time.
10:48 asciilifeform was it even paused ? or what do you suppose the college chix do with their time?
10:48 mircea_popescu they eat government cheese in the government vat and dream,
10:48 mircea_popescu which is unseemly.
10:49 mircea_popescu the relation between she-ustard and tradition-whore is about the same as between chicken liver and a mouse.
10:49 mircea_popescu you don't usually get to see either. but for different reasons altogether.
10:50 asciilifeform a few hr/day , here, in the evening they go to the rape pits, voluntarily, beer-lubricated
10:50 mircea_popescu they are "similarly squishy". one can survive on its own, and does.
10:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i wouldn't call the "normal" encounters anything as noble as rape. it's servicing.
10:50 mircea_popescu i have nfi why the dudes are dumb enough to not expect to be paid.
10:51 asciilifeform lolwat
10:51 mircea_popescu the work - and it IS work - involved in the average encounter known as a "hook up" or "one night stand" is a lot closer to nursing an elderly stupid patient than to fucking.
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10:51 BingoBoingo Current arrangement is Daddy Bahamas pays the girls to fuck the dudes
10:51 mircea_popescu and in general, nurses do the dirst work for moneys.
10:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo it ain't even close to fucking unless they call it "rape".
10:52 BingoBoingo Fine "stick it in and maek babby"
10:53 mircea_popescu more like "is it ok if i take your blouse off ? are you ok ? can i remove your panties now ? aren't we going too fast ?" blablabla.
10:53 mircea_popescu caring guys with a greatsense of humor, the world's worst paid nurses.
10:53 thestringpuller $b 6
10:54 mircea_popescu and somehow nobody's concerned about their exploitation, either. if they were worthelss 5 yo curry eaters making soccer apparel everyone'd be up in arms.
10:54 mircea_popescu but the legion of poor, hopeless, bropariahs, doing the dirty work of nursing stupid cunts, nobody cares about those.
10:54 asciilifeform does this shit even exist outside of ustard mythology?
10:54 mircea_popescu which shit ?
10:55 asciilifeform this 'nursing'
10:55 mircea_popescu yes.
10:55 mircea_popescu most of the reason my usual "we're going to the party now. take off your clothes ; keep your knees apart at all times" is so insta-delicious. much like icecream in a world of gruel.
11:01 deedbot [Qntra] Royal Dutch Shell Shocked! Losses! - http://qntra.net/2016/07/royal-dutch-shell-shocked-losses/
11:02 mircea_popescu awww, i thought oil hurt russia not the good guys.
11:02 mircea_popescu this economix stuff is confusing my 25k communitard college degree.
11:12 BingoBoingo Shame your cashiering job doesn't offer the right kind of experience with money to have perspective either
11:13 mircea_popescu yeah. sometimes i feel i'm gonna break down and cry.
11:13 mircea_popescu nowhere to go nothing to do with my time...
11:14 BingoBoingo Don't worry. You'll just go to bar, make baby, and discover each baby comes with a raise.
11:17 BingoBoingo Anyways soon Obama/Clinton will make weed legal and then all problems may be toked/vaped under the rug.
11:18 mircea_popescu i thought flying-hairmat is making it legal.
11:19 BingoBoingo flying hairmat is a wild card, and electoral "mystery box"
11:20 BingoBoingo Mebbe that gets legal. Mebbe castor oil?
11:20 mircea_popescu watch him win and announce the dissolution of nato as part of his inauguration speech.
11:21 BingoBoingo Or mebbe announce new NATO membership structure of pay hairmat treasure or drink castor oil? Should be enough for Italeave
11:21 mircea_popescu "the us still got enough juice to defend ITSELF. and as to the rest of you bitches - talk to greece, they're like... cool and shit. ask'em."
11:23 asciilifeform last fella who hinted at possible delizardification was named kennedy.
11:23 asciilifeform and scattered brainz
11:24 mircea_popescu the hint is above. nowwhat.
11:25 mircea_popescu there's a price to pay for the idiotic pretense put up by the gop. when a woman does it, the custom is to slide the knife in her asshole before the penis, to cut her sphyncter permanently.
11:25 mircea_popescu similar principle likely applies - the military-industrials SHOULD have had the fucking sense to bring their party to heel. that they didn't calls for bloodletting.
11:26 asciilifeform from my perch, mr t is not electable, unless he mccains and promises, answerable with his arse and his woman-sausages, to play ball, and prolly not then, either.
11:27 mircea_popescu i know :)
11:28 mircea_popescu the only problem is that the implied agent in "electable" is not an agent in this play.
11:29 asciilifeform nobody's defunding lockheed et al. whoever is stubborn enough to bribe diebold et al to keep finger off the cheat button and win, will eat some 'bad shellfish' during some party dinner and that'll be that.
11:31 asciilifeform usa, unlike most orc shitholes, has a well-curated electoral zoo, and this kind of thing is rare. but it happens.
11:33 mircea_popescu if trump had any sense, lockheed, northrop & friends are FULLY defunded the same day, and are allowed the mercy to perhaps beg for SOME SMALL PORTION of re-funding, maybe, someday.
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11:34 mircea_popescu and it's literally, and plainly stated. "there won't be a next time for you. but if there were a 2nd last time, you'd better make damn sure the republican party crowns me from day one and on its knees. bitches."
11:34 asciilifeform does mircea_popescu recall the 'auspicious incident' ?
11:34 asciilifeform when janissary corps was dissolved
11:34 mircea_popescu sure.
11:35 mircea_popescu recall the butchery that yielded once the prophet';s flag was brought forth ?
11:35 asciilifeform who is the new parallel corps now?
11:35 mircea_popescu iirc it was the jannisary baracks, not the palace, that ended up mme la marquise'd.
11:36 asciilifeform them janissaries won't gut themselves
11:36 asciilifeform need new corps
11:36 mircea_popescu all the disenfranchised idiots in the us want is the butchery of the military-industrials. they're on incredibru thin ice as it is.
11:36 mircea_popescu let the president tell tyrone it's ok to take the army's weapons.
11:36 asciilifeform ask a bmore ape what is grumman
11:36 mircea_popescu baltimore police dept was ALREADY told to stfu and sit indoors like womenz once.
11:37 mircea_popescu test run.
11:37 asciilifeform betcha he will sooner know who was mozart
11:37 mircea_popescu the campaign clearly moved into "nuclear option" territory, what with hillary doing the pot dance.
11:38 asciilifeform told by ape mayor , in league with the other monkeyz
11:38 mircea_popescu the specific idiocy of the libertards is that they imagine themselves doing "the utmost", most scandalous outrageous move and so will win!
11:38 mircea_popescu but this imagination is predicated on mental gymnastics, the disavowal of the obvious tit for the tat.
11:38 mircea_popescu "you legalize pot to win, i make it legal for anyone with college debt to take anything they want from us armed forces depot"
11:38 asciilifeform hey it worked to elect obummer
11:40 asciilifeform there will be no freicorps in usa, because the ballz, they were stolen.
11:40 mircea_popescu "revolutionary guards" manned by "students" are nothing new. very, very far from new.
11:40 mircea_popescu about as new as spring water.
11:40 asciilifeform precisely, old
11:41 asciilifeform you need, at worst, 20th c - grade meat.
11:41 asciilifeform it dun exist here.
11:41 mircea_popescu this is what's said before, every fucking time.
11:41 mircea_popescu the REASON it exists is specifically that prior it didn't exist.
11:42 mircea_popescu do you know why room blows up ? not BECAUSE "there was already flame there". but specificially, exactly because THERE WASNT.
11:42 asciilifeform recall the 'shit in a hole for 5 years' thread?
11:42 mircea_popescu for as long as there's open fire it an't explode.
11:42 mircea_popescu can't*
11:42 mircea_popescu which one was that ?
11:43 asciilifeform $s shit in a hole
11:43 a111 1 results for "shit in a hole", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=shit%20in%20a%20hole
11:43 mircea_popescu mmm
11:43 asciilifeform hm
11:43 mircea_popescu 1 is an insufficient number of results for this resource.
11:43 asciilifeform will have to dig.
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12:40 deedbot [Trilema] Borcanelanul (elanul la borcan) - http://trilema.com/2016/borcanelanul-elanul-la-borcan/
12:42 danielpbarron if there's a fire in an air-tight room and you break open a way for fresh air to get in...
12:50 thestringpuller http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510735 << I have a great story regarding this from my alma matar. There was this guy was a rich alumni (trophy wife and everything), and would come back to campus to "hang out". Anyhow he'd pick up chicks and become their sugar daddy. Note that one of these girls is married to a beta-male working for crapple, and another chick who was "in a monogamous relationship" for years at the time. Point being,
12:50 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 14:43 mircea_popescu: there's a hundred to a thousand daughters of "single parent" families with fucking siblings, ie, whoredaughters, who instead of joining their mother's brothel go to "community college" and end up with just about enough "college debt" to cover a decent party weekend. IN FOUR YEARS.
12:57 mircea_popescu danielpbarron natural gas is explosive around 14% or so. fresh air dun help your cause.
12:58 mircea_popescu thestringpuller seems pretty natural.
13:04 thestringpuller slut shopping is what they call it
13:04 thestringpuller and it is a buyer market. just can't get hung up on those clingy ones.
13:04 thestringpuller they called it*
13:09 shinohai mircea_popescu: final results from twitter campaign over 24 hr. http://ix.io/18ln
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13:32 asciilifeform 'The Arkakao place closed down.' << noooooooooooooooooo
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14:06 asciilifeform unrelatedly, found https://gist.github.com/achillean/07f7f1e6b0e6e113a33c << claims to be catalogue of top duped ssh pubkeys from a scan similar to Framedragger's
14:06 asciilifeform i remembered this existing, somewhere, but this encoding is quite useless, has fp's only
14:06 asciilifeform why do people do this.
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14:11 deedbot [Daniel P. Barron] Fucking atrocious. - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/fucking-atrocious/
14:19 deedbot accepted: 1
14:19 trinque lol!
14:19 trinque mod6: ^
14:19 trinque that was buildroot
14:20 asciilifeform waiwut
14:20 asciilifeform imho this is ill behaviour for deedbot
14:20 asciilifeform popping where no one has pushed.
14:20 trinque wtf, I pushed
14:20 asciilifeform not publicly
14:21 trinque testing!!!
14:21 asciilifeform lolk
14:21 trinque gonna delete from queue and let mod6 do honors
14:23 thestringpuller i enjoyed professors like asciilifeform
14:23 thestringpuller make life as miserable as possible for the student, until one day student realizes he actually learned a lot
14:37 mod6 <+trinque> that was buildroot << awesome! thanks for putting that in there.
14:38 mod6 do I need to load from wotpaste or dpaste? or can I load from mod6.net?
14:39 trinque from anywhere works
14:39 trinque mod6.net is fine
14:39 mod6 sweet
14:40 trinque bundle will be cut at the hour, so I'd do it all either before then or after, so you can reference a single deed bundle in docs or w/e
14:42 mod6 $deed http://mod6.net/foobar/boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2.uu.asc
14:48 mod6 maybe we're not gonna make it, should have waited.
14:49 mod6 that one is 70M
14:49 thestringpuller dat big file
14:50 trinque looks like it's still chugging
14:51 mod6 ok, got ~8 minutes.
14:52 mod6 next biggest one is 30M
14:52 trinque I'll just stop that cron job until we're done
14:53 mod6 nice.
14:53 mod6 thx
14:59 deedbot accepted: 1
14:59 BingoBoingo ;;later tell asciilifeform Thing to do other than bugger dead badgers http://www.bnd.com/news/local/community/highland-news-leader/article92341522.html#navlink=SecList
14:59 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:00 trinque hah! good job deedbutt
15:00 mod6 $deed buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.uu.asc
15:00 trinque mod6: next!
15:00 mod6 thx trinque!
15:00 mod6 this one is only 6.9M
15:00 deedbot Bad URL or network outage.
15:00 mod6 noooooooo
15:01 trinque missing the hostname hombre
15:01 shinohai fergot http://
15:01 mod6 site is still up.
15:01 mod6 oh im retarded.
15:01 mod6 $deed http://mod6.net/foobar/buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.uu.asc
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15:01 mod6 helps to tell it where to find the thing :D
15:01 shinohai GO FORTH AND LOCATE THIS FILE!
15:02 mod6 haha. traverse-all-the-sites.jpg
15:03 shinohai ^.^
15:03 deedbot accepted: 1
15:04 mod6 $deed http://mod6.net/foobar/db-4.8.30.tar.gz.uu.asc
15:04 mod6 ^30M
15:12 deedbot accepted: 1
15:13 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510893 << this is useful and necessary but, sad as it is to rain on parade: buildroot downloads 10,001 turds.
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15:13 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 19:01 mod6: $deed http://mod6.net/foobar/buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.uu.asc
15:13 trinque asciilifeform: with sig checking?
15:13 trinque not that I disagree with what you're pointing out
15:14 asciilifeform trinque: i dun recall it shipping with pubkeys
15:14 asciilifeform so answer is no.
15:14 asciilifeform even if it does something resembling it.
15:14 trinque so then, deed moar turds
15:14 mod6 i've been running into a bunch of instances lately where the download sites for these artifacts have been down/unavailable.
15:14 mod6 we need a place where we can grab these.
15:15 ben_vulpes vendor /everything/.
15:15 trinque yeah, what was it, uclibc site was down?
15:15 asciilifeform i recall somebody here was attempting a version of buildroot that downloads nothing
15:15 mod6 trinque: yup
15:15 asciilifeform (ships with whole orchestra)
15:15 asciilifeform what became of this ?
15:15 mod6 and also sourceforge was down too.
15:15 trinque mod6: openssl final one?
15:15 mod6 asciilifeform: i was tinkering with that... for a bit.
15:15 mod6 trinque: yup
15:16 mod6 $deed http://mod6.net/foobar/openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz.uu.asc
15:18 deedbot accepted: 1
15:19 mod6 cool!
15:21 mod6 thanks trinque, this thing works great
15:22 trinque quite welcome
15:22 trinque sqlite3 is a tank
15:23 trinque it did not give a single fuck.
15:23 asciilifeform unrelatedly, did this http://thewhet.net/2016/alcachofa-7515 ever appear here ?
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15:23 asciilifeform hanbot's www is not in the deedbot feed ?
15:26 trinque hm it isn't; I'll add.
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Line betting on BitBet, October 2015 - http://thewhet.net/2015/line-betting-on-bitbet-october-2015/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Line betting on BitBet, November 2015 - http://thewhet.net/2015/line-betting-on-bitbet-november-2015/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Line betting on BitBet, December 2015 - http://thewhet.net/2016/line-betting-on-bitbet-december-2015/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Line betting on BitBet, January 2016 - http://thewhet.net/2016/line-betting-on-bitbet-january-2016/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] How to Unmake Money in Eulora, Sorta - http://thewhet.net/2016/how-to-unmake-money-in-eulora-sorta/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Line betting on BitBet, February and March 2016 - http://thewhet.net/2016/line-betting-on-bitbet-february-and-march-2016/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] In which a city that never sleeps burns out. - http://thewhet.net/2016/in-which-a-city-that-never-sleeps-burns-out/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] 2016 BAIBF, a drudgery - http://thewhet.net/2016/2016-baibf-a-drudgery/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Line Betting on BitBet, Closing Out - http://thewhet.net/2016/line-betting-on-bitbet-closing-out/
15:32 deedbot [The Whet] Alcachofa 7515 - http://thewhet.net/2016/alcachofa-7515/
15:35 asciilifeform ;;later tell hanbot 'alcachofa 7515' is mega-story. i can almost apprehend the sheer vacuum inside the argentine heads now!111
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15:35 gribble The operation succeeded.
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16:08 shinohai $up covertress
16:08 deedbot covertress voiced for 30 minutes.
16:10 asciilifeform just in time, we've these here tresses that need coverin'.
16:10 covertress ;)
16:10 covertress Greetings.
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16:11 covertress I bring a propositon from Andreas Antonopoulos for Mircea Popescu.
16:12 covertress On Twitter, A.A. wrote: If the person who drained the DAO wants to do an interview, I can offer voice-masking and anonymity. Contact me via http://antonopoulos.com
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16:12 * trinque falls on floor
16:13 asciilifeform covertress: you will find that interviews, incl. with 'reuters' et al, happen ~here~.
16:13 asciilifeform covertress: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460247 << quick intro to why.
16:13 a111 Logged on 2016-05-01 17:40 mircea_popescu: the reason you do not want to discuss anything with hitler, such as for instance in the shape of hitler's own propaganda magazine "interviewing" you is that they aren't interviewing you. what they are doing is trying for a "o noes scandal and wilhelm lost all his support" piece. if it works, they got it, if it doesn't work, "it never happened".
16:14 shinohai See covertress? Told you it would have to occur in #trilema assembled
16:14 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
16:14 gribble Current Blocks: 422646 | Current Difficulty: 2.1349250110751337E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 423359 | Next Difficulty In: 713 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 4 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
16:15 covertress :) As I thought (no interview.) Just wanted to pass that along and request if it is alright that I reply to A.A. on Twitter with M.P.'s FU blog post.
16:15 asciilifeform covertress: fella can come here, like honest man, like anybody else..?
16:15 ben_vulpes covertress: not "no interview". interview /here/.
16:15 ben_vulpes twitter is not "a place".
16:16 covertress yes, sorry. Interview "here."
16:16 ben_vulpes no, you don't use scare quotes about the actual bitcoin forum.
16:16 asciilifeform covertress: here. where we have real-time logs that - unlike twatter et al - don't get doctored.
16:16 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency rmb
16:17 gribble BTCChina BTCRMB last: 4360.91, vol: 62512.97130000 | Volume-weighted last average: 4360.91
16:17 ben_vulpes and please, type whatever you want into dorsey's skinner box.
16:17 covertress :)
16:17 covertress Shall I invite A.A. here then?
16:17 covertress The rest of the world knows nothing of you.
16:17 BingoBoingo Invite whoever wherever.
16:17 mod6 lol
16:18 ben_vulpes twitter is in no way the rest of the world.
16:18 BingoBoingo Mind that http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ is the most influential piece on cryptocurrency this month
16:18 ben_vulpes these logs are a) more widely read than any shithead 140 character 'prose', and b) read by people whose attention spans can handle them.
16:18 * BingoBoingo shouts out to thestringpuller
16:19 ben_vulpes nevermind the hilarity of some wot nonperson inviting someone to tmsr~
16:19 covertress I have a pgp now.
16:19 ben_vulpes $gettrust covertress
16:19 deedbot L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
16:19 BingoBoingo And mind the most important piece on "cryptocurrency" this month was authored in January 2015
16:20 BingoBoingo $rate covertress 1 Palmer's Amaranth
16:20 deedbot covertress is not registered in WoT.
16:20 covertress you will find it under my real name: Stephanie kent
16:20 ben_vulpes where does the wot visualization live this week?
16:20 trinque $help << covertress
16:20 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
16:20 trinque instructions on how to register are ^
16:21 covertress ty. I'll register covertress.
16:21 covertress I neglected to do that.
16:22 ben_vulpes myeah. key is one thing, anyone can make those. what turns ye olde keypair into an identity is its registration with the wot.
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16:38 covertress $register CDC13F3B380239FE82250DA310488A0477C34BCE
16:39 deedbot CDC13F3B380239FE82250DA310488A0477C34BCE registered as covertress.
16:44 shinohai $rate covertress 1 Coverer of tresses
16:44 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/f031d8b3-b58c-4a5f-9ffe-4ffd51367115/
16:45 shinohai $v 9D2450531D78968F934B6D3986C8467FA232919DBEB1F2D873809537558CFF99
16:45 deedbot shinohai rated covertress 1 << Coverer of tresses
16:45 asciilifeform covertress: you can self-voice now.
16:47 shinohai asciilifeform she needs another rate I think, I am not L1 so ...
16:49 BingoBoingo $rate covertress 1 Palmer's Amaranth
16:49 asciilifeform $rate covertress 1 new blood; tresses - well-covered
16:49 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/857ef717-69be-4c7e-bf27-f0a988045106/
16:49 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/f83ee391-2750-487c-b80b-358821645484/
16:49 asciilifeform waaa
16:50 BingoBoingo $v 94CBD4F2FBDE9F0271E2DFA00CBEF85C03CB5068A42949BE8C8216B95D984B30
16:50 deedbot BingoBoingo rated covertress 1 << Palmer's Amaranth
16:50 asciilifeform yer lucky day BingoBoingo
16:50 BingoBoingo lol asciilifeform
16:59 covertress Thank you, #trilema, for your ratings. :)
17:01 covertress Love the Palmer's Amaranth, BingoBoingo. So witty. :)
17:01 BingoBoingo Are you sure?
17:02 covertress I don't mind you think of me as a weed. Yes, I'm sure.
17:03 covertress Everyone must begin somewhere.
17:04 shinohai Round up fixes that shot easy
17:04 ben_vulpes so -- covertress -- who are you?
17:04 BingoBoingo shinohai: Round up does NOT fix this weed
17:04 shinohai O.o
17:04 BingoBoingo Palmer's Amaranth is not merely a weed.
17:05 shinohai I don't have them
17:05 shinohai Sounds tenacious
17:05 trinque ben_vulpes: has an alt-eth!
17:05 BingoBoingo shinohai: Wait about an hour or so for next qntra
17:05 ben_vulpes heh 2013 all over again or what
17:05 covertress Please, enlighten me, BingoBoingo. What else is it?
17:06 ben_vulpes anyways, let the lady dig her own holes
17:06 shinohai kk BingoBoingo I have nothing on the warmer as of yet
17:06 BingoBoingo covertress: Well for that like shinohai you are going to have to read qntra in about an hour, but http://qntra.net/2016/05/monsanto-embargoes-argentina-from-getting-dicamba-resistant-soybeans/ will be useful background reading
17:07 covertress :)
17:07 shinohai oh i get it
17:08 * shinohai is tired
17:09 covertress BingoBoingo, are you implying that my alt-eth is a weed. In it's present state, I agree. KR's client will be undergoing an entire rewrite in a more sane lang than Golang.
17:10 covertress KR was created for me as a gift. My gift to the KR community will be to make it better.
17:11 BingoBoingo covertress: No, I'm implying I don't know who or what you are, but you as sure as hell aren't my soybeans. Hence the rating of 1 denoting limited information beyond this. I have no idea what you mean by KR or your alt-eth.
17:11 asciilifeform and what means 'was created for me as a gift' ??
17:12 shinohai If someone gave me a steaming pile of golang as a gift, I'd probably reconsider my friends.
17:13 covertress Excuse me, Krypton is my fork of Ethereum (alt-eth). Here is today's current: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rbgqesyy320gaer/Krypton4.pdf?dl=0
17:13 shinohai :D
17:15 covertress I sent that to Pete Rizzo today.
17:16 trinque https://i.imgur.com/snLplqq.jpg
17:20 asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/e872ba3d-f8bb-42d1-b35e-2084b490456d << demunged from above.
17:20 asciilifeform my dosimeter is nearing max, from having read this.
17:21 shinohai lo asciilifeform
17:22 asciilifeform 'Krypton will be the only decentralized blockchain represented at the conference' << holy mother of fuckq, what
17:22 covertress *new one
17:22 covertress I didn't write that.
17:22 asciilifeform lemme guess, your 'business genius' did ?
17:23 covertress an anon ghostwriter
17:24 shinohai Straight from the buzzword thesaurus ?
17:24 covertress Seems to be his speciality
17:26 covertress I'm off to grow a company. Thank you #trilema for accepting me as a citizen. ttyl
17:26 asciilifeform covertress: wait i have another business idea
17:26 asciilifeform that you might like
17:27 asciilifeform visit junkyard, find an old yugo wreck, repaint it, have ghostwriter write prospectus where you have a new, exciting car co.
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17:27 trinque lel
17:28 asciilifeform laugh, but folks have made $millions on 'kickstarter' doing essentially this.
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17:28 trinque I don't doubt it.
17:34 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 11292545407594175178676347015728407315964404798513500904475751592529893233021480868652014808334425655353317917185993496061664578037945011652939076832189037 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '187.72.155.221 (ssh-rsa key from 187.72.155.221 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <sshscan-queries+187.72.155.221@mkj.lt>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuc
17:35 asciilifeform $s 11292545407594175178676347015728407315964404798513500904475751592529893233021480868652014808334425655353317917185993496061664578037945011652939076832189037
17:35 a111 4 results for "11292545407594175178676347015728407315964404798513500904475751592529893233021480868652014808334425655353317917185993496061664578037945011652939076832189037", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=11292545407594175178676347015728407315964404798513500904475751592529893233021480868652014808334425655353317917185993496061664578037945011652939076832189037
17:37 asciilifeform who the hell even uses 1024-bit keys, and for what.
17:41 shinohai Getting pwnd of course
17:42 asciilifeform not that it particularly matters to phuctor.
17:56 BingoBoingo ;;laserkittens
17:56 gribble ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew*
17:56 shinohai Nice Qntra BingoBoingo reading nau
17:56 BingoBoingo ty shinohai
17:56 BingoBoingo covertress: http://qntra.net/2016/07/monsanto-lead-dicamba-enthusiasm-raises-tensions-among-farmers/
17:57 deedbot [Qntra] Monsanto Lead Dicamba Enthusiasm Raises Tensions Among Farmers - http://qntra.net/2016/07/monsanto-lead-dicamba-enthusiasm-raises-tensions-among-farmers/
18:03 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Latest qntra may also be of interest to you since you want to become agri-cultured
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18:28 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511053 << laugh all you want but this is ~how musk started out with tesla, except with nearly equally junky british sports car from 'lotus'
18:28 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 21:27 asciilifeform: visit junkyard, find an old yugo wreck, repaint it, have ghostwriter write prospectus where you have a new, exciting car co.
18:29 ben_vulpes wat
18:29 ben_vulpes lotuses suck nao?
18:30 pete_dushenski musk took a lotus rolling chassis, added 5k laptop batteries, cobbled the whole thing together in true british shedding fashion, and sold the result to a few demokrats and even more investors
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18:30 mircea_popescu didn't use to suck, years ago
18:30 ben_vulpes i thought they were moderately expensive, barebones, fast and stiff little vehicles
18:30 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: they supposedly drive well. but they're still british (ie. won't start when cloudy)
18:31 ben_vulpes they run toyota engines, right?
18:31 * ben_vulpes has been rattled around in one, was an entirely enjoyable experience.
18:31 pete_dushenski the elise, evora, exige do, yes.
18:31 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511074 << and stevejobs took korean flash ram, capacitative touch screen, and.... etc
18:31 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:30 pete_dushenski: musk took a lotus rolling chassis, added 5k laptop batteries, cobbled the whole thing together in true british shedding fashion, and sold the result to a few demokrats and even more investors
18:31 pete_dushenski the early elise had some other 1.6L british engine iirc
18:32 ben_vulpes would *love* to have pushed one of the electric-drive ones around. not as a useful car thing, but as a dope little driving chassis with an electric powertrain.
18:32 asciilifeform fact is, prior to musk there were no electromobile with ~reasonable range.
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18:32 asciilifeform like, or dislike - same.
18:32 pete_dushenski just, it was a 1.8L, but 'rover' made engine in the early lotus elise
18:33 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: don't forget xerox ui
18:33 asciilifeform i bet even mircea_popescu could not buy a xerox 'dorado'.
18:33 asciilifeform how many even made? 100?
18:34 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: no dispute on musk's contribution to range. but it's still like making the best ipad ~intheworld~. call it what you want but it's a poor replacement for a workstation, just as is electric car for gas car.
18:35 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Tesla-Roadster-Base-Convertible-2-Door-/162141489126?hash=item25c062c7e6:g:2IAAAOSwaB5Xjirp
18:36 pete_dushenski and in other trollbox nooz, "FatAlbert: frankthetank, No offense but Barry Silbert is NOT invited. The last time he ate all the shrimp (odd!) and threw up in the bathtub. Cleaned it up with his shorts"
18:37 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: petrol car only looks like a great deal because no one hangs you upside down and rubs yer nose in the externalities.
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18:37 BingoBoingo $up _FeltPen It means ask questions. Bring up ideas, etc
18:37 deedbot _FeltPen voiced for 30 minutes.
18:37 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510950 << why would derpolodopolous assume that anyone wants anonimitee ? strange set of priors, this fella.
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18:37 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 20:12 covertress: On Twitter, A.A. wrote: If the person who drained the DAO wants to do an interview, I can offer voice-masking and anonymity. Contact me via http://antonopoulos.com
18:37 BingoBoingo _FeltPen: Also register a key and do they right things
18:37 _FeltPen Thnx Bingo. Yep, have registered a key already IIRC.
18:38 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Maybe asking people to anon is his way of preserving his "name" so it doesn't drown in better names?
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18:38 BingoBoingo $gettrust _FeltPen
18:38 deedbot L1: 0, L2: 0 by 0 connections.
18:38 BingoBoingo $rate _FeltPen 1 new blood
18:38 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/587ff329-5ed9-4a6e-b77d-cfda9144f3d9/
18:39 BingoBoingo $v DA2D1B607A84613405F190766B6B6D355CE45B17BFCB893F14DEC890E4B0683A
18:39 deedbot BingoBoingo rated _FeltPen 1 << new blood
18:39 BingoBoingo _FeltPen: Thank you. Now voice yourself and participate in discussions.
18:39 BingoBoingo $down _FeltPen
18:40 shinohai $rate _FeltPen -1 I prefer ballpoints
18:40 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/686cfe1a-8a31-48d9-8286-1435217df715/
18:40 shinohai O.o
18:41 trinque http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-22#1487282
18:41 a111 Logged on 2016-06-22 17:42 trinque: jurov: there, be as floppy as you want, puny human
18:41 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: that's sorta the definition of externalities.
18:42 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: i'm going to go out on a limb and bet that battery is shot
18:42 ben_vulpes mega problem with the resale value of the roadsters.
18:43 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: derpy's gotta swim towards the usg-lifepreserver somehow
18:43 BingoBoingo $up _FeltPen
18:43 deedbot _FeltPen voiced for 30 minutes.
18:44 BingoBoingo Sorry if I appear rude. Encouragement doesn't translate well over text.
18:44 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: and their value in general. maybe asciilifeform likes that leccy cars are 'cleaner' but $10k for a new battery pack every decade ? nothx.
18:44 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: your petrol car easily eats 10k of usgolade every few yrs.
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18:45 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> the elise, evora, exige do, yes. << Not Lotus cars. Last Lotus was the Model 7
18:45 asciilifeform starting from the astonishingly available and quite subsidized (incl. via petrowar) fuel
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18:45 _FeltPen Bingo - you're fine, just at work too. damn phone keeps ringing.
18:45 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: i prefer to think of it as 'albertade' but ok. not like charging cars is phree.
18:46 pete_dushenski didn't i recently link that piece about the exorbitant cost of public electric car charging stations ? and the lines that form waiting for them ?
18:46 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: compare cost per joule of your mains socket to petrol (in whatever locale) for some lulz.
18:46 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: in a sane world, it would be petrol station that is a costly luxury.
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18:47 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: i've done the math and i'll pay the marginal cost in exchange for filling up when i want, where i want, and everywhere between here and timbuktoo
18:47 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: that's like classism or something man
18:47 BingoBoingo From "bitcoinist.net" betting picks "Although Woodley has shown some cardio issues in the past and does carry a lot of muscle mass that can produce fatigue, I think this fight will go over 2.5 rounds." << ROLFMAO
18:47 asciilifeform point is that pete_dushenski is not exposed to anywhere near the actual cost of his ride.
18:48 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: keep holding breath until sane world comes i guess.
18:48 asciilifeform the printolade press - pays.
18:48 ben_vulpes fuck that i'm going to take the shithead state for all it's worth.
18:48 ben_vulpes i have 12 cylinders of hate that need to turn over twice a month.
18:48 pete_dushenski ^
18:48 pete_dushenski <3
18:48 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: What, anyone who cares can build own "model 7" like car
18:49 asciilifeform i also - have petrol car. with only 6cyl. but - apparently - fewer illusions?
18:49 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Wait, what of yours has 12 cylinders?
18:49 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: for as long as the usg provides for my externalizing onto its citizens, i will do so.
18:49 ben_vulpes er
18:49 ben_vulpes eight.
18:49 ben_vulpes eight of hate. rhymes better.
18:50 * pete_dushenski has 16 cylinders of powah
18:50 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: or bicycle for that matter
18:50 asciilifeform pete_dushenski has what, marine diesel?
18:50 ben_vulpes or is that cumulative
18:51 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah pete is entering his ride in the tractor pull
18:51 ben_vulpes cuz i got eighteen in total
18:51 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201603/2018-bugatti-chiron-43_600x0w.jpg << 16 cyl. 4 turbos.
18:51 ben_vulpes nofuckinway.
18:51 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: yes, total.
18:51 pete_dushenski lol
18:51 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: yours?
18:51 ben_vulpes heh was actually looking at a trashcan nissan on craigslist the other day. someone wanted 7.5k for it.
18:52 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: nah, i'm just yanking chains. twas 2x8cyl maths.
18:52 ben_vulpes "for 7.5k i'd expect you bought the 2-turbo model, but can you check to see if it has 2 or 3? sometimes the factory bolted a spare on."
18:52 BingoBoingo http://williamsbigbud.com/about-us/ << What pete_dushenski should ride. 16 cylinder 2-cycle engine!!!!!!!
18:52 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: but pictures bugatti is only production car that would fit the 16cyl bill
18:52 trinque I have 32 cyl
18:52 trinque in my cupboard
18:52 pete_dushenski soup cans!
18:53 trinque quick this one
18:53 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: point , earlier, was that cheap, ubiquitous petrol is every bit as usgtronic as the monsanto-midland-mcdonalds food supply system.
18:53 ben_vulpes http://portland.craigslist.org/nco/cto/5699433828.html << "this car will help you get your peepee wet"
18:53 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: was rockefeller usgtronic ? i seem to recall him having bought and paid for congress, not the other way around.
18:53 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: this is a new point in the logs?
18:53 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510843 << wotpaste plox, i don't havew that here.
18:53 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 17:09 shinohai: mircea_popescu: final results from twitter campaign over 24 hr. http://ix.io/18ln
18:54 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: pshaw that's not even an engine
18:54 ben_vulpes http://gcaptain.com/record-breaking-man-bw-engine-enters-service/
18:54 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: that's a sexy tractor if ever i've seen one.
18:54 ben_vulpes “The engine, with a bore of 950 mm and a stroke of 3,460 mm, provides 6,870 kW/cylinder at 80 rpm and 21 bar MEP (in L1) and was introduced as a supplement to the successful S90ME-C9/10 engine types, allowing the engine to be further de-rated thanks to the larger cylinder bore and/or fewer cylinders to be installed.
18:54 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: rockefeller's usa was a petro-exporter.
18:54 asciilifeform net.
18:54 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: 2-cycle so MEGA-engine!
18:55 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Seriously. 1 acre every minute!
18:55 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: mega indeed.
18:55 shinohai mircea_popescu: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/33ceeb02-97e8-4af6-a516-ecfdf8268a19/
18:55 ben_vulpes could fit a few dependopotami on one of those cylinders
18:55 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510847 << about same reason they go "someone shat in the elevator" instead of "Paul shat in the elevator" eh.
18:55 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 18:06 asciilifeform: why do people do this.
18:55 mircea_popescu ty
18:56 _FeltPen thx to whomever wrote the guide for tmsr. very helpful navigating this stuff.
18:56 mircea_popescu which one ?
18:56 mircea_popescu shinohai da fuck is this, an image or something ?
18:57 shinohai screenshot so no doubt of veracity
18:58 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510902 << this is a good point, actually. gotta be looked into, sealing gotta seal all the crevices.
18:58 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 19:13 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510893 << this is useful and necessary but, sad as it is to rain on parade: buildroot downloads 10,001 turds.
18:58 ben_vulpes > b64 encoded screenshot of ascii dickbutt
18:58 mircea_popescu shinohai i'll take your word for it, srs. dun need screenshots in ma pgp
18:59 shinohai kk
18:59 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ascii_dance.gif ftw
19:00 _FeltPen mircea - was "which one" directed at me by chance?
19:00 mircea_popescu yes.
19:00 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i'll do you one better: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/127346/20160125/ascii-version-matrix-worlds-oldest-still-active-torrent.htm
19:00 mircea_popescu old skool bro.
19:01 _FeltPen actually I mispoke. I meant BTC assets wiki (referred to wrong tab). Anyway, I'm having to refresh my memory on pgp and wot etc. I forgot how good it is.
19:02 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510929 << check out alf, the omnireader.
19:02 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 19:23 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, did this http://thewhet.net/2016/alcachofa-7515 ever appear here ?
19:04 ben_vulpes are asciilifeform and i really the only ones with our own rss readers?
19:04 mircea_popescu fwiw i can certify as to accuracy, this is an actual physical item she pointed out to me. we had coffee watching it.
19:04 asciilifeform waiwat
19:04 asciilifeform what item
19:04 mircea_popescu the house.
19:04 asciilifeform aaah
19:04 mircea_popescu watched them paint it a garish blue once. they ran out of paint, leaving a footlong section down the middle.
19:05 asciilifeform orc sop.
19:05 ben_vulpes http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwgr8ep4Gy1qlh1qpo1_500.jpg << mircea_popescu fodder from my personal feedz
19:06 asciilifeform and there's roooom at the bottom: brazil awaits.
19:06 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: bent mag is bent...
19:06 mircea_popescu wassat ?
19:07 asciilifeform and what's that strapped to her arm? 'my precious last round' ?
19:07 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: critiques set detailing in pr0nz too no doubt
19:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know what "bullet" means to sluts yes ?
19:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: small vibrating thing?
19:07 mircea_popescu aha.
19:08 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510948 << lmao! what logs!
19:08 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 20:10 covertress: Greetings.
19:09 mircea_popescu poor girl. i wonder what's the conclusion of average female after sticking finger in blender.
19:09 ben_vulpes aw come now! she didn't lose a finger.
19:10 ben_vulpes but come at me with "nobody knows youse lol" and see what happens.
19:10 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy all through lol.
19:10 mircea_popescu $rate covertress 1 Entertaining.
19:10 deedbot Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/83a557d6-e830-47c7-8374-55e51f4850bd/
19:10 mircea_popescu funny how there's always a "legion in the sky" at every powerless derp's beak and call. "THE REAL WORLD". orly ? what real world ?
19:11 mircea_popescu $v DB7C81D483E8B0AC57FB384B64D7D3C11EFA2D1D2B23CB17F7E7FDC0F2B1FB5B
19:11 deedbot mircea_popescu rated covertress 1 << Entertaining.
19:11 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v0v9k/someone_just_split_from_the_dao_and_drained_it/ https://archive.is/J2ZW4
19:12 mircea_popescu o noes.
19:12 mircea_popescu well, NOBODY HEARD OF IT so should be ok.
19:13 mircea_popescu anyway, the guy with the binary search is pretty good lol.
19:17 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511055 << o ya. service economy 2.0
19:17 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 21:28 asciilifeform: laugh, but folks have made $millions on 'kickstarter' doing essentially this.
19:19 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511085 << there still isn't. this is like saying "before emperor took a shit in the soup bowl there was no turdsoup." sure, now there is, technically, but it still ain't soup in the sense, "i'd want to eat that". i dun think at any point the notion that if you tape many cellphone batteries together you get A LARGER BATTERY/firehazard.
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19:19 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:32 asciilifeform: fact is, prior to musk there were no electromobile with ~reasonable range.
19:19 mircea_popescu but w/e, maybe im jaded.
19:20 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511094 << last i recall, it went exactly the other way around : electric car "great deal" because nobody actually bothers to point out the externalities. in fact, ANYTHING BUT PETROL car, ie, "methanol" green car, hydrogen car etc. same deal.
19:20 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:37 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: petrol car only looks like a great deal because no one hangs you upside down and rubs yer nose in the externalities.
19:21 asciilifeform these are petro products!
19:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511097 << he doesn't know why he wants it ; but the larger thing that he's trying, unknowingly, to be, ie "mainstream media" thrives on anonimity because then greenwald, ie self-appointed derp of no value or importance, can ride on "anon" back all the way to the bank. it's a mental model that gets all the journawhores wet.
19:22 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:37 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510950 << why would derpolodopolous assume that anyone wants anonimitee ? strange set of priors, this fella.
19:22 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511101 << check out bb, exactly on the slice.
19:22 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:38 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Maybe asking people to anon is his way of preserving his "name" so it doesn't drown in better names?
19:22 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: 'undisclosed sources' aha.
19:22 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511239 << sane design would feature NiFe cell.
19:22 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 23:19 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511085 << there still isn't. this is like saying "before emperor took a shit in the soup bowl there was no turdsoup." sure, now there is, technically, but it still ain't soup in the sense, "i'd want to eat that". i dun think at any point the notion that if you tape many cellphone batteries together you get A LARGER BATTERY/firehazard.
19:23 pete_dushenski 'couldn't possibly reveal'!!!1
19:23 pete_dushenski violates ethics, y'know.
19:23 mircea_popescu yeah, the ethics of "i like to eat"
19:23 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: why do you keep throwing around 'sane' like it means what you want it to mean ?
19:23 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511123 << not for a second. without usg, gas is ~25 cents at the pump. it FEEDS the usgolade, not eats from it.
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19:23 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:44 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: your petrol car easily eats 10k of usgolade every few yrs.
19:24 mircea_popescu out of every gallon burned, car eats a quarter and usg seven.
19:24 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: industries and markets are. ideas only wish to be.
19:24 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: it means 'the well-known , effective, but wholly ignored Right Answer.'
19:24 mircea_popescu i doubt it'd be effective. you'd end up with a nine ton car.
19:24 pete_dushenski 9-tonner might be an issue for anyone 'sane' trying to maintain roads
19:25 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511125 << srsly where do you come up with this shocking nonsense! bejaysus.
19:25 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:45 asciilifeform: starting from the astonishingly available and quite subsidized (incl. via petrowar) fuel
19:26 * mircea_popescu skips over the rest of that trollage.
19:26 asciilifeform tally the costs of not having glassed saudi at the first sign of uppitiness.
19:26 mircea_popescu the who to the what now ?
19:26 asciilifeform and of the idiot gulf warz etc.
19:26 mircea_popescu none of this is germane.
19:27 asciilifeform the cost, to the rest of the planet, of those particular orcs remaining among the living.
19:28 asciilifeform and sure whatever if you use the 'not germane because i say so, fuckyou' magic wand, can come up with whatever answer you like.
19:28 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: Right Answer is like Right God, it's a very personal thing once you start to divorce its connection to terra firma.
19:28 mircea_popescu dude. the cost of hiring a woman to scrub my floor is not "whatever plus the cost of keeping her from going to college and also running of to cuba w3hen she was 17"
19:28 mircea_popescu this is not how opportunity costs work.
19:29 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: NiFe cell is not my invention, but... edison's. read up.
19:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: true - and also the elementary particle socialism is made of.
19:29 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: and pray tell where i may read up on other sanities like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511130
19:29 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 22:46 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: in a sane world, it would be petrol station that is a costly luxury.
19:29 asciilifeform anything! is cheeeap! - if others pay.
19:30 pete_dushenski ru scifi ?
19:30 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: do you imagine that your payment at he pump comes remotely close to covering the actual coat of the liquid dino?
19:30 asciilifeform *the
19:31 asciilifeform cost
19:31 asciilifeform bleh, gotta switch machines
19:31 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: cost in what sense ? you want me to calculate cost of dead duck who flew into tailings pond ?
19:32 pete_dushenski this is a slippery slope towards 'all lives are worth infinityplusone doll hairs'
19:32 asciilifeform fughet 'lives'
19:33 asciilifeform roll, e.g., simply the costs of there being such a thing as saudi arabia. if you like, ~solely~ of property damage from attributed explosions.
19:33 * asciilifeform brb
19:34 trinque this is the fucking carbon credits argument
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19:34 trinque I am not here to pay for consequences like somebody's child, merely to buy a product
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19:35 * pete_dushenski knows he's been spending too much time in #trilema when it takes him four tries to spell conpherence with an 'f' for work proposal
19:36 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: saudi arabia doesn't enter into it. alberta, texas, and bakken do. unless you can explain this angle ?
19:37 pete_dushenski trinque: alberta socialists just introduced 'carbon tax'. will be mild annoyance for next 3 years until repealed by righties next election.
19:37 ben_vulpes nah pete_dushenski you gotta install a bouncer so that nobody knows when you're around or not, and as a consequence can't raise an eyebrow at 'too much time in #trilema'
19:37 trinque they should introduce a meta-tax next, which is a tax which covers the cost (including pain and suffering) of the cockroach bureaucrats having to count the taxes
19:38 mircea_popescu again : the 2 dollars paid at pump for a gallon of gas are split : $0.25 covers the entire economic process involved ; $1.75 goes to usg to pay for random idiocy du jour
19:38 trinque not just their wage mind but the wage of all jobs they might have done otherwise
19:38 mircea_popescu this isn't going away just because alf had a weird day.
19:38 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: there are no eyebrows to raise at me!
19:38 pete_dushenski trinque: chinese probably tried that already. a millennium ago or so.
19:39 ben_vulpes someone musta shaved my forehead while i wasn't looking
19:39 mircea_popescu there isn't "the cost of there being such a thing as saudi arabia". this isn't how costs work. and in general, this isn't fucking fiction.
19:39 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: lol
19:39 pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: or maybe your cat died and you never left pharoah's egypt after all
19:40 ben_vulpes being in #trilema means being connected.
19:40 ben_vulpes *and* voiced.
19:40 mircea_popescu trinque i'd be happy with a boyhood tax. to quote the classics, three pennies to the gossip ; two to the lie and one for every two stupidities.
19:41 pete_dushenski no opera for the gossiper
19:42 trinque generous rate on the stupidities
19:45 BingoBoingo $up b-a_alum
19:45 deedbot b-a_alum voiced for 30 minutes.
19:45 hanbot http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510942 << haha, cool. and no, i wouldn't be surprised if someone here finds it and harangues me for unauthorizedly publishing their exact history or w/e
19:45 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 19:35 asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot 'alcachofa 7515' is mega-story. i can almost apprehend the sheer vacuum inside the argentine heads now!111
19:48 mircea_popescu trinque 1880s rate, apud caragiale.
20:03 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511291 << Just Wanted??
20:03 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 23:34 trinque: I am not here to pay for consequences like somebody's child, merely to buy a product
20:04 trinque not at fucking all.
20:05 trinque you do not get to tally up the sum total of effect something has on the univese itself and try to derive a price from that
20:05 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511290 << y'know, just because envirocrats impose tax on usaschwitz inmates, to pay for al gore's yachts - does not mean that externalities dun exist.
20:05 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 23:34 trinque: this is the fucking carbon credits argument
20:06 asciilifeform trinque: i get to tally the cost of unambiguously petro-related atrocities.
20:06 asciilifeform not 'universe'.
20:07 trinque cost and effect are not synonyms
20:08 asciilifeform no amount of sophistry will get you folks out of this one. we pay the cost of burning dino every time we take breath, for instance.
20:09 asciilifeform and it ~is~ a cost.
20:11 trinque I wonder how many other idiot languages conflate monetary cost and "prevents alternate possible outcome"
20:11 trinque probably all of them
20:11 trinque as in, "the train wreck cost him his life"
20:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511256 << i eagerly await article explaining how $100 petrobarrel becomes $.25 litre
20:11 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 23:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1511123 << not for a second. without usg, gas is ~25 cents at the pump. it FEEDS the usgolade, not eats from it.
20:11 trinque that is not fucking monetary at all
20:13 asciilifeform trinque: generally a deliberate bargain is implied - otherwise, 'living cost him his life'
20:14 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: $44 barrel nets $2 gallon at the pump. $100 barrel closer to $4 per gal at the pump.
20:15 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu claims ~actual~ cost is ~25c, earlier.
20:15 pete_dushenski when discussing proportions, it's essential to keep in mind what our priors are. don't be the vacuum thinking kid from the recent contravex comments
20:16 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: elaborate?
20:16 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2016/07/25/bumble-better-than-tinder-worse-than-go/#comment-48896 << this guy
20:18 asciilifeform i dun get it?
20:18 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: basically, costs and prices fluctuate and you can't just cherrypick historical numbers to suit your theory.
20:18 pete_dushenski so bitcoin was once a buck. what of it ?
20:19 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: my original contention had nothing to do with a particular price.
20:20 pete_dushenski but your latter contention did.
20:20 asciilifeform but that ~nobody paid anything like the actual cost of his petro-ride at the pump, in half a century or so.
20:20 asciilifeform the rest - socialized.
20:20 asciilifeform and that this is just as loathesome as obummercare.
20:21 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: why only in last half-century ? what changed ?
20:22 asciilifeform saudi getting to pretend that they are people, and have ownership of their fossils?
20:23 asciilifeform americans cancerously growing to the point where they import by the megatonne?
20:23 asciilifeform largely these, afaik.
20:24 pete_dushenski so non-people helping non-people... i fail to see the issue here. saudis have far more culture, however lamentable you may find it, than americanos.
20:25 pete_dushenski structure, rules, hierarchy, the lot. saudis have. usians don't.
20:25 asciilifeform what planet's usa did pete_dushenski visit..?
20:26 pete_dushenski besides, everything alive grows to the point where it can't grow anymore.
20:26 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: of the social form, not the 'we wrote this on a piece of paper and now it means things and we also made lots and lots of signs everywhere so that you never forget what we wrote on the pieces of paper'
20:27 pete_dushenski the two are not of one kind.
20:29 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: this entire thread reminds me of a uniquely-american, incidentally, pasttime: impassioned defense of the heathen imperial system of weights&measures
20:29 pete_dushenski anyways, i have to beat this rainstorm heading my way. having left the 16cyls parked, cycling and all. i'll read the continuation in the logs but it'll be a few busy days until i'm voiced again.
20:29 asciilifeform 'petro is mainstream, ubiquitous, easy, fuck off with the weird'
20:29 asciilifeform 'gallon and inch forever'.
20:29 asciilifeform ~==.
20:29 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-422651.txt
20:30 trinque ey mod6 ^
20:30 asciilifeform trinque: deedbot really ought not shit where it has nit eaten, imho.
20:30 asciilifeform *not
20:30 trinque it didn't.
20:30 trinque this is in the logs.
20:30 asciilifeform it evaled for 4 hrs?!
20:31 asciilifeform neat
20:31 * asciilifeform digs.
20:31 trinque blockchain was a bit behind on the node, but yes, farts bundle URLs now
20:31 shinohai Finally! been waiting on that for some time trinque lol
20:31 trinque my observation is that my node will get behind, then rapidly catch up if restarted
20:32 trinque I might find time to investigate why soon
20:32 asciilifeform trinque: this comes from the idiot socket handler
20:32 asciilifeform enemy can hog sockets and never let go
20:32 trinque yeah, sounds about rihgt
20:32 asciilifeform iirc i described this in detail some time last year.
20:33 * asciilifeform bbl - playing with pet...
20:33 trinque cya
20:35 ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: consider a bouncer. logins and self-voicings is unnecessary opsec bit-leakage.
20:35 ben_vulpes "kindergarten opsec lessons!11!" as asciilifeform would say
20:36 ben_vulpes to continue the exercise, for students, every time pete_dushenski is logged in and self-voiced, he may be assumed to be in physical proximity to his keys.
20:49 mod6 <+trinque> ey mod6 ^ << hey, thanks again trinque. o7
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21:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> and it ~is~ a cost. << so far, it's "alf got drunk one day, went on an abstruse rant".
21:16 mircea_popescu i eagerly await article explaining how $100 petrobarrel << i dunno what you think this sort of nonsense achieves. what in fact it achieves is "oh look, alf has nfi what stuff costs, but he wants to derp about how it works". it's a bad habit.
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21:18 mircea_popescu ~nobody paid anything like the actual cost << if you mean "the cost to make huge ferns, stuff them into earth, make oil", then yes. this is however no argument : nobody pays, nor could anyone ever pay, the "cost to re-do big bang".
21:19 mircea_popescu want it or not, some level of denied externality is baked into life, not just human life bu life altogether. most people grok this point when contemplating lord kelivn's universal death idea.
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21:37 BingoBoingo In other news, some derp is dreaming about mustering enough miners to 51% the ethereum chain that didn't hardfork in a time travel theft. Idiot appears to be neglecting that much hash would make his chain vulnerable.
21:44 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-29#1511388 << tru! but - why deny?!
21:44 a111 Logged on 2016-07-29 01:19 mircea_popescu: want it or not, some level of denied externality is baked into life, not just human life bu life altogether. most people grok this point when contemplating lord kelivn's universal death idea.
21:48 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-29#1511386 << argument concerned simple principle: if folks dun feel like counting gulf war I and II, and ~all~ wahabbi derpery, etc. as 'part of cost of petro', i can just as readily say that fukushima, chernobyl are 'not in the cost' of fission-power. etc
21:48 a111 Logged on 2016-07-29 01:16 mircea_popescu: i eagerly await article explaining how $100 petrobarrel << i dunno what you think this sort of nonsense achieves. what in fact it achieves is "oh look, alf has nfi what stuff costs, but he wants to derp about how it works". it's a bad habit.
21:48 asciilifeform laugh at both, or neither, or you have unprincipled-exception.
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22:53 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510902 << this is a good point, actually. gotta be looked into, sealing gotta seal all the crevices. << noted. I dug into this at one point, but got side tracked by other pressing things that came up at the time.
22:53 a111 Logged on 2016-07-28 19:13 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-28#1510893 << this is useful and necessary but, sad as it is to rain on parade: buildroot downloads 10,001 turds.
22:54 mod6 I'm trying to remember the specifics. I can't seem to recall too much about it.
22:55 mod6 I'd have to dig through the logs. I'll turn my attention to that at some point soon after I get an updated build script out there.
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