Show Idle (>14 d.) Chans
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00:17 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/llKbb << Up on Mount Lol
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00:56 BingoBoingo Some China from the mines: The father sat reflecting on how much joy his two sons brought to him during the year. He decided to buy them both the present of their choice this holiday season. When he asked his older boy what he would like, the son replied, “Oh boy, I would like so many things. Maybe a bicycle, or new skis, or skin diving equipment. I wish I would have them all, but any one would make me happy.”
00:56 BingoBoingo That was fine with the father, he now had some good choices. Next, he turned to his younger son, who was only eight years old. The boy envied his brother for all the games he could play and all of the sports he could do so well. When asked what he would like, he made one simple request. “I would like a box of Tampax Tampons.” The father was shocked, “What in the world do you want a box of tampons for?” he demanded angrily. The po
00:56 BingoBoingo or boy, not knowing he had said something wrong, answered, “With Tampax, you can swim, ski, sky dive, horseback ride and play any sport you want.”
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10:06 shinohai ;;ticker --market all
10:06 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 582.99, vol: 4393.69972203 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 574.0, vol: 4919.28234 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 585.02, vol: 24067.8588035 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 555.0, vol: 0.77274996 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 590.267587, vol: 40758.68420000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 584.0, vol: 865.37277869 | Volume-weighted last average: 587.017837765
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11:01 asciilifeform 'Hey there! My name is Jacob Appelbaum. I'm pretty famous for stealing other people's research and putting my own name on it. I also spend a lot of my time pretending to be a badass hacker, but actually I can only barely code. I enjoy using my social capital, influence, and power in order to manipulate other people into getting what I want. From all that, it's pretty clear that I'm awesome! However, in several communities, I'm perhap
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11:01 asciilifeform s better known for my abuse of other people — sexually, emotionally, and physically.'
11:01 asciilifeform lel
11:03 asciilifeform and, what, his shithub key just 'happened' to leak, this piece was planted therein, usgarchive.org just 'happened' to cache the page right before deleted, etc. ?
11:08 shinohai ^
11:09 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course this is a credibility washing exercise. Why do you think they stack the coincidences so high? To build suspicion!
11:10 asciilifeform imho the only interesting mystery here is what it was, that was so loathesome, that even appelbaum refused to do it and had sentence of shitburial carried out.
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11:11 asciilifeform ( nobody executes an asset just for the hell of it. )
11:12 asciilifeform one obvious possibility is that he had second thoughts re pushing the tor chumpatron.
11:14 asciilifeform perhaps not unrelatedly, cryptome appears to be down.
11:21 asciilifeform http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-heist-bangladesh-idUSKCN0YR0VN << more swift lulz.
~ 29 minutes ~
11:50 jurov Qntra shares distributed. gernika: do you know how to get them?
11:51 shinohai ty jurov
11:51 jurov !up gernika
11:51 gribble Error: "up" is not a valid command.
11:51 jurov $up gernika
11:51 deedbot gernika voiced for 30 minutes.
11:53 gernika jurov: thx. I have an account on coinbr.com. Would that be the best way?
11:54 jurov Yes. just pgp sign the text "I agree."
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11:54 asciilifeform l0l
11:56 gernika jurov: ok. will be a bit. I'm currently in the process of vomiting out copious amounts of Rails code.
11:56 jurov I need the account name, and whether it should be transferred there automatically from now on.
11:58 BingoBoingo ty jurov
12:05 BingoBoingo Domain khanacademy.org banned from Qntra comments due to egregious spam
12:08 asciilifeform http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1soorlp << lulz re appelbaum thread
12:11 shinohai TIL Appelbaum is a fruit not only in name.
12:13 asciilifeform lulz from last month: http://www.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2016/05/11/fbi-hid-surveillance-devices-around-alameda-county-courthouse
12:13 asciilifeform 'Federal agents planted hidden microphones and conducted secret video surveillance at Alameda County’s Rene C. Davidson Courthouse for ten months, despite having no court warrant. The surveillance operation was part of an investigation into alleged bid rigging at foreclosed property auctions where thousands of houses and apartment buildings were sold by banks.'
~ 27 minutes ~
12:41 asciilifeform moar american l0ltr0n1cs, http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/money/nation-now/2016/06/06/man-sued-30k-over-40-printer-he-sold-craigslist/85478168
12:41 asciilifeform 'What the 66-year-old Massachusetts man didn't know then is that he would spend the next 6 ½ years embroiled in a complicated and confusing legal dispute in Indiana over that printer, which, according to its buyer, was broken. He would find himself liable for about $30,000 in damages. He would pay a lawyer at least $12,000 in his battle to escape the legal mess. And it all started with a piece of hardware he sold online for about $4
12:41 asciilifeform 0 in 2009. With shipping and other costs, the total was less than $75, according to court records. The printer's buyer was Gersh Zavodnik, a 54-year-old Indianapolis man known to many in the legal community as a frequent lawsuit filer who also represents himself in court. The Indiana Supreme Court said the "prolific, abusive litigant" has brought dozens of lawsuits against individuals and businesses, often asking for astronomical dam
12:41 asciilifeform ages. Most, according to court records, involve online sales and transactions.'
12:44 shinohai Wonder if he has ever sued a hooker from clist because her snatch wasn't tight enough.
~ 56 minutes ~
13:41 deedbot [Qntra] VK Falls To Peace - http://qntra.net/2016/06/vk-falls-to-peace/
13:46 shinohai Peace is a busy I guy, I do say.
13:50 shinohai http://bcoin.io/browser.html <<< ridiculous app of the day
13:54 trinque Please do not abuse the ws->tcp proxy. << what could go wrong
~ 28 minutes ~
14:22 asciilifeform 'This will create a real full node in your browser: your browser will connect to the p2p network and do all of the block verification/serving.' << l0l suuuure.
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14:25 shinohai And ... i got banned for making > 20 requests to browser.bitcoin.io
14:25 shinohai *browser.bcoin.io
14:25 asciilifeform win.
14:27 shinohai ec2-52-10-144-121.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com - what a surprise
14:37 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/oracle-whistleblower-suit-raises-questions-over-cloud-accounting-n586276 << possible qntralulz
14:37 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:38 asciilifeform 'Blackburn's lawsuit accuses Oracle management of pushing her to "fit square data into round holes" to make Oracle's cloud services' results look better. She alleges that her bosses instructed her to add millions of dollars of accruals for expected business "with no concrete or foreseeable billing to support the numbers."'
14:50 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/PxH
14:50 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:57 deedbot [Qntra] Africa Travel Entrepreneur Arrested - http://qntra.net/2016/06/africa-travel-entrepreneur-arrested/
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15:38 trinque forgot category "Altcoins"
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15:55 jurov russia ftw! http://www.spletnik.ru/buzz/showbiz/67701-valeriya-tizer-telo-khochet-lyubvi.html
16:02 BingoBoingo lol
16:08 asciilifeform lel does jurov regularly read trashy ru tabloidz ??
16:11 jurov no i have some russians on fb that do.. some stuff they dredge up is so funny
16:11 asciilifeform i have nfi what is interesting re the linked piece
16:13 jurov she looks pretty.. used
16:14 asciilifeform noshit
16:14 jurov on another day, from a discussion whether one should come home to moscow: ну да. Баня, шашлык, фистинг
16:14 asciilifeform l0l
16:26 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
16:27 gribble Current Blocks: 415113 | Current Difficulty: 1.99312067531243E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 415295 | Next Difficulty In: 182 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
16:31 trinque til "fisting" in russian
16:31 trinque l0l
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16:59 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477591 << you know the one with the loudmouths in the desert ?
16:59 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 04:56 BingoBoingo: or boy, not knowing he had said something wrong, answered, “With Tampax, you can swim, ski, sky dive, horseback ride and play any sport you want.”
17:00 BingoBoingo Haven't heard it
17:01 mircea_popescu so there's a bunch of various people gangsta as fuck at the poker room of this casino of this retirement community that had originally been built in what was a us state but meanwhile was lost in some desert.
17:01 mircea_popescu there's an ex-kgb ex-plutocrat dude ; there's an ex-yale ex-vc dude ; there's this dude used to run arms for rice in somalia ; and finally there's a rapper dude.
17:02 mircea_popescu so they keep you know, fucking around, telling each other stories from back in their respective days
17:02 mircea_popescu and eventually they decide to go for a ride in the desert
17:02 mircea_popescu as an adventure, like.
17:03 mircea_popescu except they're all old and inept and ineffectual, they take this "suv" that's really running on a qcw-50 engine and take no water and whatever.
17:03 mircea_popescu so a coupla hours later they're fucking stranded, and about to die, when this genie shows up
17:04 mircea_popescu and the genie's all "of all the dumb fucks wandering in here ever since the injuns figured out how to half'n'half a buffalo, you're easiest the dumbest fucks"
17:04 mircea_popescu "why you're so dumb i'd be loath to separate you from humanity. here, say where you each wanna go and i'll take you there, as an act of mercy (for you)".
17:04 mircea_popescu so you know, one goes back to moscow, the other goes back to wherever the fuck
17:05 mircea_popescu finally, rapper's turn. "what about you ?"
17:05 mircea_popescu "well... all my friends are gone...i'm so lonely... listen, why don't you bring them back to me ?"
17:08 shinohai (-__-)
17:10 asciilifeform lel
17:10 BingoBoingo lol
17:10 mircea_popescu o btw asciilifeform wanna hear my inept symmetric encryption scheme ?
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17:10 asciilifeform aha?
17:12 mircea_popescu select a, b and c and take N=(a + sqrt(b)) / c so that N > 1 ; N < 2. for any message M, deflate, crc and split it up in two fragments a b so that neither is larger than 2/3 of M ; to encrypt calculate a^N*b ; b^N*a and pass those.
17:14 asciilifeform a,b,c,N integers?
17:14 mircea_popescu a b and c integers. N no way.
17:14 asciilifeform ah yeah
17:14 asciilifeform so what is N physically?
17:15 mircea_popescu the idea being that in principle there should exist a set a b c so as to turn any encrypted text into ~any text you wish it to be
17:15 mircea_popescu N is a small irrational.
17:15 asciilifeform yes but how is it sat down physically
17:15 mircea_popescu as a f(a,b,c) ?
17:15 mircea_popescu or ?
17:15 asciilifeform as an a,b,c triplet of integers ?
17:15 mircea_popescu yea
17:16 asciilifeform this is similar to 'encrypting' using offsets into pi.
17:17 mircea_popescu well it's algebraic
17:17 asciilifeform numerically manipulating irrationals is not any more algebraic than diddling pi.
17:17 mircea_popescu tru
17:18 mircea_popescu just saying, it's going to be either equations or else... "boxes" or wtf.
17:18 mircea_popescu that's what aes did to try and escape "oh it's just maff", "fine we'll implement control structures".
17:19 asciilifeform snake oil with 1,001 ingredients of great rarity and exquisite alchemical aesthetic is still... snake oil.
17:19 mircea_popescu right. which is what i'm saying : if you're into ditching snake oil, you'll have to come to equations.
17:19 asciilifeform noshit.jpg
17:20 asciilifeform but it'll have to be a) something you can actually do repeatably on a digital computer + b) based on some reasonably compact hardness assumption
17:20 mircea_popescu now in principle if P, Q are the encrypted chunks, (P/Q)^(1/(N-1)) and (Q/P)^(1/(N-1)) yields the message.
17:21 mircea_popescu and these trivially have any roots you wish them to have if you parametrize N
17:21 asciilifeform (we have no crypto based on provably-hard cases of provably-hard problem. we have ~some~ crypto based on lousy cases of suspected-hard problem. we have MEGATONNES of crapto based on fuck knows what fuck knows whether problem at all.)
17:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in order for above to hold true, N must have equal 'mass' to M
17:22 asciilifeform and you have reinvented otp !!
17:22 mircea_popescu fine. CLOSE ENOUGH!
17:22 asciilifeform all roadz lead to otp.
17:22 asciilifeform possibly because it is the one item which actually works with no ifs, ands, buts.
17:22 asciilifeform butyoucan'tsignwithit.
17:22 mircea_popescu still. N could be something like 3kb and the scheme'd be still workable.
17:23 asciilifeform ends up reducing to difficulty of discrete log problem
17:23 asciilifeform same as dh, elgamal, cramershoup.
17:24 mircea_popescu mno, because you don't actually have something to solve.
17:24 asciilifeform in ANY case other than otp, you have something to solve.
17:24 mircea_popescu suppose you know P and Q. ok. what now ? you can't actually calculate N.
17:24 asciilifeform if 1 message.
17:24 asciilifeform if 2+ - can solve.
17:24 asciilifeform because trivially 2 points.
17:24 asciilifeform this is again true of any system that isn't otp.
17:24 mircea_popescu even if 2 messages.
17:25 mircea_popescu i've not done the actual math, per N size, but there's entire classes of messages that "could" work. you won't get enough precision until you have MANY messages.
17:26 asciilifeform in practice you get 1 'yes this is an actual message' and maxint turds.
17:26 asciilifeform just like hash collisions.
17:26 mircea_popescu no because deflate and crc.
17:26 mircea_popescu CRC! it's supposed to be lossy. deliberately.
17:26 asciilifeform what's lossy here ?
17:26 mircea_popescu weaponized, this would fuck up say 1 in 20 messages it'd be so taut.
17:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform rounds P, Q to some degree.
17:28 asciilifeform seems like mircea_popescu is reinventing 'padding', that is, dilating message space
17:28 mircea_popescu well not reinventing, but obviously will be needed for any practical scheme.
17:28 asciilifeform it isn't magic - you can still distinguish plausible cyphertexts from rubbish, it just takes more cycles.
17:29 mircea_popescu yeah. but this is a lot more expensive sort of cycling than you know, hashing.
17:29 mircea_popescu course i guess that's all happenstance, nsa starts building long divisor processors.
17:29 asciilifeform you can trivially do it in any ciphersystem by shamir-splitting message into K fragments of which you need J
17:29 asciilifeform and sending the lot.
17:29 asciilifeform as noisily as you like.
17:29 mircea_popescu or this.
17:30 asciilifeform method is ages old.
17:30 asciilifeform and everybody pretty much uses fpga clusters for actual cryptoanalysis anyway. so elaborate 'let's zap the miners' trickery is ~pointless.
17:30 asciilifeform you want actual hard trapdoor problems.
17:30 asciilifeform if they even exist.
17:31 mircea_popescu yeah well, i dun have THAT.
17:32 asciilifeform i still can't fully swallow how there is this entire field that isn't certain whether it exists or is simply smelling own farts.
17:32 mircea_popescu has ~same problem as physics.
17:32 asciilifeform far worse.
17:33 asciilifeform picture if every time 'mars didn't rise on schedule' ALL BRIDGES FELL.
17:33 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-07#1294009 << this being the reason.
17:33 a111 Logged on 2015-10-07 13:41 mircea_popescu realises that probably no one else's light went off when alf was getting all excited about vmath that what he was seeing really was "omfg, usable molecular chem."
17:37 asciilifeform i find it also very interesting that all aes-like ('boxes') cryptosystems are direct descendants of rotor machines. which were known to be pseudoscientific even when first built, as vernam existed
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17:37 asciilifeform but 'omg!1111111 inconvenient!11111 can't reuse key!11'
17:37 mircea_popescu it's because there's no option : either algebra ; or else "control structures".
17:37 asciilifeform or otp.
17:37 jurov can't we abuse polynomial roots somehow for proven trapdoor function? Like, Abel–Ruffini theorem proves you can't solve certain polynomials algebraically
17:38 asciilifeform jurov: easy trap to fall in
17:38 mircea_popescu jurov if we could i wish i knew it.
17:38 asciilifeform see thread about 'particular cases'
17:38 asciilifeform all that anybody ever proved is that you can't solve ALL CASES of something.
17:38 asciilifeform particular case can be as simple as you like.
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17:38 asciilifeform and often you have 0 control of this when generating key.
17:39 asciilifeform which is why there are entire encyclopaedias of np-complete problems, but none of them have been used in a working cryptosystem
17:39 mircea_popescu though some material recently linked made a very good point : "np complete" and other hardness discussions aren't even meaningful here. the term refers to WORST CASE, not to average case or anything.
17:39 asciilifeform one simple example that i played with in the winter is 'graph clique problem'
17:40 mircea_popescu saying "x is np hard" is like saying "the us is rich". everyone you meet there is still fucking poor.
17:40 asciilifeform ^
17:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu gets it.
17:41 mircea_popescu so we likely need to re-do the hardness measurements anyway, from a crypto pov ; to use it in a crypto pov.
17:41 asciilifeform it is not remotely enough that problem is hard in ~general case~, you have to be able to ascertain that ~your particular case~ is hard.
17:41 asciilifeform you need an avg case proof.
17:41 asciilifeform and even this does not necessarily suffice.
17:41 mircea_popescu the current discussion is from a "in house algebraicist" considering his job, "what's the worst that can come up when the suits decide to solve X"
17:42 mircea_popescu but, that said : the principles to be built upon are exactly the "well, i can solve this any way you want" said the cracker to eve. hence, stuff like polynomial roots are very respectable idea.
17:42 asciilifeform in practice opponent ~always~ knows something about the message space.
17:43 asciilifeform the only genuine 'can solve in ANY way' is in otp.
17:44 asciilifeform where the space is ENTIRELY flat.
17:44 mircea_popescu that's the bitch now innit. that's at least what i was longfaced about earlier, "in practical eavesdropping you don't EVER care about message integrity. if your algebraic cyrptosystem is porous to someone saying "bring me all messages that discuss ALEODOR" or whatever, and then he can discern something about them - say that ALL possible forms of one use it in the negative - you're still as fucked as a three year old in a pedo
17:44 mircea_popescu bath."
17:45 mircea_popescu and there's absolutely no way that i can guarantee when drawing up the math of the cypher, that "all uses of symbol X will always be ambiguous in the space" or w/e dumb shit.
17:45 mircea_popescu which is starting to explain how chinese ended up chinese rather than a proper language.
17:46 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477594 << is this the new dekulakization ? "oh, prof sanders didn't even do anything, it was black women all along" ?
17:46 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 15:01 asciilifeform: 'Hey there! My name is Jacob Appelbaum. I'm pretty famous for stealing other people's research and putting my own name on it. I also spend a lot of my time pretending to be a badass hacker, but actually I can only barely code. I enjoy using my social capital, influence, and power in order to manipulate other people into getting what I want. From all that, it's pretty clear that I'm awesome! However, in severa
17:47 mircea_popescu take patriarchy white man's "house of thought" give it to some rats ?
17:47 asciilifeform that was the plan for 100+ yrs.
17:48 asciilifeform and yes appelbaum was a demolition job. but i have nfi what for.
17:48 asciilifeform presumably he disobeyed an order.
17:48 jurov i dunno, polynomials are studied long enough so that some could be proved insolvable
17:49 asciilifeform jurov: try to understand what 'proven insolvable' means
17:49 mircea_popescu jurov you recall that story with the trains and the fly ?
17:49 asciilifeform for one thing, you need to have the solution to a case of problem to use it as crypto. otherwise you could 'elementary proof of fermat's conjecture is the key!'
17:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-21#930274
17:50 a111 Logged on 2014-11-21 01:38 mircea_popescu: well anyway : two trains moving on the same track leave simultaneously 29 miles apart, one doing 5mph the other 7mp. a fly caugh between them flies straight until it reaches a train then turns back and recurses, doing 9mph.
17:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform oh incidentally, node coloring! what's that called ?
17:51 asciilifeform and http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-23#932035
17:51 a111 Logged on 2014-11-23 06:19 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was reading a circa-1958 issue of american magazine 'popular science', and guess what was in it - http://imgur.com/mZnf775
17:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: node colouring. there is a whole motherfucking book of them.
17:51 asciilifeform but they ALL have same problem.
17:51 mircea_popescu myeah.
17:51 mircea_popescu brb ima eat.
17:51 asciilifeform i'ma off to anti-eat (exercises) brb.
18:03 mircea_popescu in other news i finally replaced a rather loud psu. life's good!
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18:04 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477600 << not altogether an idle question.
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18:04 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 15:10 asciilifeform: imho the only interesting mystery here is what it was, that was so loathesome, that even appelbaum refused to do it and had sentence of shitburial carried out.
18:05 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477612 <<< gpg-shotgun marriage! :D
18:05 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 15:54 jurov: Yes. just pgp sign the text "I agree."
18:10 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477631 << popcorn popping directly in browser when.
18:10 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 18:22 asciilifeform: 'This will create a real full node in your browser: your browser will connect to the p2p network and do all of the block verification/serving.' << l0l suuuure.
18:11 BingoBoingo In other news, in spite of being broke the Illinois government is about to resurrect its program to reintroduce Aligator Gar. I am thrilled!
18:11 mircea_popescu whassat ?
18:11 BingoBoingo 8 foot long very toothy fish.
18:11 BingoBoingo Very delicious as poor man's substitute for crab in crab cakes.
18:13 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/tyG0C
18:13 mircea_popescu lol "him in our time"
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18:43 shinohai http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/why-trans-porn-hugely-popular-among-hetero-men "The people of Brazil, Italy, Argentina, and Russia appear to be the most likely to watch trans porn."
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19:19 mircea_popescu dude gtfo, trans porn is interesting in the same sense any other gore is interesting.
19:19 mircea_popescu just because people turn heads when passing crashes doesn't mean running car into wall is "a sexuality"
19:21 BingoBoingo Stahp invalidating the experiences of the Impactualsexuals
19:23 mircea_popescu speaking of sexual offal, why is it that all the marginal women ~nobody'd give the time of day imagine they "speak for all of us", ie, somehow represent femaleness an' womanhood ?
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19:23 mircea_popescu it's the weirdest shit of all time.
19:25 shinohai I was thinking more of hire 4-5 trannys from backpage, ship sex vids to aforementioned countries. Profit.
19:26 mircea_popescu you got a better shot selling eulora merchandizing.
19:30 deedbot [Qntra] High Profile Likely Hilary Voter Arrested For DUI In California - http://qntra.net/2016/06/high-profile-likely-hilary-voter-arrested-for-dui-in-california/
19:30 BingoBoingo ^ Moar sexual offal
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19:51 mircea_popescu deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46c02139-d44f-4d12-9eb8-03939b75d416/
19:51 mircea_popescu hm
19:51 mircea_popescu deedbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46c02139-d44f-4d12-9eb8-03939b75d416/?raw=true
19:59 mircea_popescu trinque halps ?
20:03 mircea_popescu so looking at the shitcoins, "ethereum" switched with "ripple" YoY. hurr durr.
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20:07 mircea_popescu i wonder if anyone remembers early 2015, "billion dollar market cap" ripple, millions "traded" a day and other flights of fancy.
20:17 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477796 << i installed an altogether silent one in february, but i can still hear the inductor sometimes. mega-disappointment.
20:17 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 22:03 mircea_popescu: in other news i finally replaced a rather loud psu. life's good!
20:18 asciilifeform magnetostriction is a bitch.
20:18 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477797 << what i can't figure out is why they never talk. for srs, what does the schmuck have to lose now ?
20:18 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 22:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477600 << not altogether an idle question.
20:20 deedbot [Trilema] MiniGame (S.MG), April 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-april-2016-statement-2/
20:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477813 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-26#1415829 ?
20:23 a111 Logged on 2016-02-26 03:53 mircea_popescu: yeah well. meanwhile at reality ranch, all contact sports have this phenomena, where people age out of it. it's natural. but they don't WANT out of it, because they fucking liked it. so they become radio commentators, referees, whatever they can find.
20:23 a111 Logged on 2016-06-06 23:23 mircea_popescu: speaking of sexual offal, why is it that all the marginal women ~nobody'd give the time of day imagine they "speak for all of us", ie, somehow represent femaleness an' womanhood ?
20:23 trinque mircea_popescu: I threw those in; I have to fix the tape between new deedbot and old (actual deed-related) code
20:30 mircea_popescu a kk
20:31 mircea_popescu doh
20:31 mircea_popescu when you publish a report with the wrong month's title ';/
20:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's a fair point innit.
20:33 deedbot [Trilema] MiniGame (S.MG), May 2016 Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/minigame-smg-may-2016-statement/
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20:48 deedbot [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Christianity: The original socialism? - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/06/christianity-the-original-socialism/
20:50 trinque it's such an obvious strategy if you suck that looking for the "original" is a bit silly
20:52 mircea_popescu i guess it is at that.
20:56 mircea_popescu "Hi team at Trilema How are you? I came across your excellent gaming site: http://trilema.com " << one of the pleasures of keeping a personal blog is that well... what is it ?
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20:56 mircea_popescu teh excellent gaming site, i guess.
20:58 asciilifeform ;;later tell pete_dushenski silicon is element 14, ~silicone~ is a type of synthetic rubber ! i can't even fathom how folks confuse the 2
20:58 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:02 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475379 << best api would be kako log format "<whatever incremental id your message has>;<unix timestamp>;<nick>;<message>" and "<id>;<timestamp>;*;<nick> <message>" for /me messages, with a parametrized endpoint, that takes since_time and since_id that return all messages since timestamp or all messages since id, empty document when there are none, and 400 if there's more messages then you're willing to send
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21:02 a111 Logged on 2016-06-03 02:08 mod6: phf: something that looks like this ^^ ok or helpful?
21:03 phf mod6: if you want i can spec it out for you, but that's the direction i want to take my some miniserver, that i would put on top of my znc logs
21:04 asciilifeform welcome back to old rusty planet3, phf
21:04 phf i'm surprised the bot is still operational, but i guess that's how it goes
21:04 mircea_popescu why surprised ?
21:04 phf freenode being a bumpy place
21:06 mircea_popescu bot's been fine.
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21:28 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475432 << i've used it, and the wukix people are responsive to feature requests. i think the source is a fork of one of kyoto common lisp derivatives, probably akcl. fwiw it's the same lineage as gcl and ecl, so ascii's "why not compile ecl" is entirely reasonable
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21:28 a111 Logged on 2016-06-03 04:15 ben_vulpes: phf, asciilifeform: any experience with "mocl"?
21:34 phf they did a lot of work to ensure that things just work, so you put a couple of annotations in your lisp and can call those lisp functions from either android or ios. the two limitations is that you don't get an easy way to call from lisp back into native (at least that was the case when i tried it). the idea is that you write all your logic in lisp and use native exclusively as view. and second limitation is that built executable lacks compiler, s
21:34 phf o no eval/compile.
21:37 phf ben_vulpes: there's also http://www.lispworks.com/products/lw4mr.html but i haven't tried it yet
21:48 deedbot [Trilema] My prophet and his fascinating prophecies - http://trilema.com/2016/my-prophet-and-his-fascinating-prophecies/
21:50 deedbot [Qntra] Remains Of Hewlett Packard Go All In On Remains Of Syfy Franchise - http://qntra.net/2016/06/remains-of-hewlett-packard-go-all-in-on-remains-of-syfy-franchise/
21:52 BingoBoingo Oh, related
22:03 asciilifeform phf: iirc ecl is kyoto.
22:09 mod6 phf: ok thanks, i'll work on that.
22:13 BingoBoingo Correction: Hewlett Packard Enterprise (TM)(R)
22:13 BingoBoingo Correction to Correction: http://qntra.net/#fn3-5802
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22:30 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: cheers.
22:30 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: ummm... that was the point.
22:32 pete_dushenski mod6: any timeline on the 99994k release ? looking forward to testing trb with import/export, etc.
22:40 pete_dushenski http://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/bikini-airline-vietnam-first-woman-billionaire-2016-3
22:40 pete_dushenski i'd fly it.
22:42 pete_dushenski in other news, "More than two-thirds of the Humvees the US supplied to Iraq to fight terrorists have ended up in the hands of Islamic State militants" which is like saying that 2/3 of chip foundries given to the chinese to fight inflation and unions are now being used for bitcoin terrorism. heh.
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23:20 mircea_popescu dude... how can anglotards be this dumb, seriously now.
23:21 pete_dushenski i think it's genetic
23:21 mircea_popescu "woman in vietnam sells airline - check out the bikinis". schmucks.
23:22 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 2574566617575 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Christian Evans <christianevans@me.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2B54188EC4A02DF01D9950B337AFFDD7247743792F797E17FC7E37E6C22AF733
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23:24 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: "The old man's daugther prayed God" << dunno if intentional spelling or not
23:24 mircea_popescu daugthers better.
23:25 pete_dushenski anyone else, i'd be reaming their incompetency, but mp has own dictionary that supersedes oxford, etc.
23:26 pete_dushenski *reaming out
23:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1477876 << 'make the rubble bounce' (tm) (r)
23:29 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 03:22 deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 2574566617575 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Christian Evans <christianevans@me.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2B54188EC4A02DF01D9950B337AFFDD7247743792F797E17FC7E37E6C22AF733
23:41 mod6 <+pete_dushenski> mod6: any timeline on the 99994k release ? looking forward to testing trb with import/export, etc. << not at the moment.
23:42 mod6 and am not positive on import/export making it in yet -- needs further review testing
23:42 mod6 if there is a 99994, soonish, it'll just contain any fixes required for this openssl issue.
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23:47 pete_dushenski aha
23:52 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-07#1477885 << waiwut
23:52 a111 Logged on 2016-06-07 03:42 mod6: if there is a 99994, soonish, it'll just contain any fixes required for this openssl issue.
23:52 asciilifeform what issue
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