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00:27 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
00:27 gribble Current Blocks: 410296 | Current Difficulty: 1.7865925777252728E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 411263 | Next Difficulty In: 967 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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01:36 deedbot [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 3600611471329672289855022328627 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Marcus Benjamin <markymac99@mac.com>; Marcus Benjamin <markymac@charter.net>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3F884718CC1F7BBD6425044BB98EB5128654EC09BB8F8D8FFE2F4EFA26F4CC53
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01:38 hanbot http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463256 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463243
01:38 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 03:09 mircea_popescu: the complaints are poor decision process, lack of transparency etc. i wonder if the actual valuable contributors packed and left the various hanno bocks, bob becks and other undesirable politicos behind.
01:38 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 03:20 mircea_popescu: i suppose eventually they couldn't stand each other anymore or somesuch
01:39 hanbot group projects, in most people's hands, need no further reasons to fail
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08:31 mircea_popescu that's a point huh.
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08:46 asciilifeform soooooo
08:47 asciilifeform i go and engage with the motherfucking heathens,
08:47 asciilifeform http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q2/241
08:47 asciilifeform and 'the pig enjoyed it'
08:47 asciilifeform as always.
08:50 mircea_popescu doh. did i not tell you ?
08:50 asciilifeform surely.
08:50 mircea_popescu why do you listen so poorly !
08:50 asciilifeform the pig was there!
08:50 mircea_popescu lol.
08:51 mircea_popescu you know, you can be trained to do this right ; you're intelligent enough. but it's a slog, and it's also a lot like learning to play an instrument.
08:51 asciilifeform the sheer stench of 'official science' in boeck's answer!
08:51 mircea_popescu the best policy is to fucking decide if you're gonna or not gonna ; and then do or not do. doing sorta halfway is painful. even to watch.
08:52 asciilifeform well the trick is that it's a heavily censored official organ
08:52 mircea_popescu how's this a trick.
08:52 asciilifeform well, full-bore mircea_popescu prolly would not pass the mod
08:53 mircea_popescu meanwhile, check out what ancient lulz i found on pete's blog http://btcbase.org/log/?date=24-07-2014#766538
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08:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's nonsense. mircea_popescu is a matter of substance, not form. what oyu call full bore is merely an aggregate of stylistic choices i prefer [and i prefer them enough to put above the needs of others, because i simply don't care enough about unknown others], but otherwise it has an infinity of formal homomorphisms, and necessarily an infinity of those could match any arbitrary formal test.
08:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: then consider applying your methods..?
08:55 asciilifeform that particular list is quite popular among thinking folk.
08:55 mircea_popescu the only problem is that even if you put the effort into bowdlerization, you will not obtain a result better than i do ; because the "formal test" is actually devoid of substance.
08:55 asciilifeform some of whom prolly ought to be here.
08:55 mircea_popescu no, it is not. it is popular among a certain brand of castrato. i don't appreciate castrato opera.
08:55 asciilifeform there are the castratos.
08:55 mircea_popescu and i would estimate absolutely none of the people there should be here.
08:56 asciilifeform not the folks posting!
08:56 asciilifeform the ~readers~
08:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you perhaps still entertain this delusional hope that man is what he wishes to be / sees self as.
08:56 mircea_popescu man is what man does, no more.
08:56 asciilifeform not really, no.
08:56 asciilifeform man - is long pig.
08:56 mircea_popescu ah, the readers. why do they read there ? they could read here.
08:56 asciilifeform aha!
08:56 asciilifeform so show'em this.
08:56 mircea_popescu their choice, let them make it.
08:56 mircea_popescu nope.
08:57 asciilifeform skin not worth the tanning?
08:57 mircea_popescu what's next ? i'm going to show online sub why i should be her master ? am i under the influence of brain parasitosis ?
08:57 mircea_popescu the principle of the thing! you don't fucking top me from the bottom ffs!
08:57 mircea_popescu here : http://qntra.net/2016/05/phuctor-factors-united-states-disa-key/#comment-56733
08:58 asciilifeform i'm still at a loss how to properly separate this concept from full-bore solipsism.
08:58 mircea_popescu asciilifeform let us study this problem together, working on the basis of a 419/russian bride scam.
08:58 mircea_popescu you know what that is ?
08:59 asciilifeform approximately
08:59 mircea_popescu so let's delve.
09:00 mircea_popescu the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.
09:00 mircea_popescu the form of money is obvious, in the sense of the taste of food being obvious. it produces expected reactions in the senses.
09:01 mircea_popescu the way the scam works is that the settlement of substance.money does not in fact coincide with the settlement of form.money. this because there's an absolute thermodynamic taboo against coincidence.
09:01 mircea_popescu not all these dts are exploitable in practice ; but all are exploitable in principle.
09:02 mircea_popescu so S sends C you a check ; thereby transferring to you the form of some money ; but not their substance. C proceeds to send S a wire, thereby transferring the form and the substance ; C is out some money.
09:02 mircea_popescu it has a myriad forms, such as for instance http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-04#1462441
09:02 a111 Logged on 2016-05-04 12:56 mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, http://dpaste.com/2Y0VAST
09:03 asciilifeform the thermodynamic 'taboo against the coincidence' is described in, oddly enough, winnie pooh! '"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best," and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called.'
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09:03 mircea_popescu but they all reduce to "more fluff to make it easier for C to swallow the faux identity painted over a difference"
09:03 mircea_popescu so it is.
09:03 mircea_popescu now then. the russian bride is a peculiar variant of this scam, where the value transferred is not pecuniary, and thus encounters "troubles".
09:04 asciilifeform aha, where the value has legs.
09:04 mircea_popescu aha.
09:04 asciilifeform (money also has legs but they are short and caterpillar-like and thus not perceptible to untrained eye)
09:04 mircea_popescu so then - C wants the hottie ; but the hottie has a blood price. so C pays. except the price is kidnapped on route, so C pays ransom, except hottie falls ill etc etc
09:05 mircea_popescu the sad fact here is that you personally fall for this scam ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
09:05 asciilifeform hm?
09:05 mircea_popescu for instance : the seclist has a hottie (you think, for absolutely no reason - have you seen her tits ? there are rules for being a hottie, you know ?)
09:05 mircea_popescu except there's a price! so you pay the price... except... it's ransomed en route... so you... etc
09:05 mircea_popescu it's ridiculous, stop doing this.
09:05 asciilifeform l0l this begins to make sense.
09:06 mircea_popescu aha.
09:06 asciilifeform i also used to dig in junkyards tho.
09:06 mircea_popescu now, there is nothing wrong with this if engaged in for sport
09:06 mircea_popescu for lulz, for the evulz, for whatever the fuck.
09:06 asciilifeform but it was considerably more rewarding than digging the bocks.
09:07 mircea_popescu but there's something wrong when the brain parasite takes over the brain, and you start pursuing nonsense at the expense of your wealth, your health, your sanity and eventually your life.
09:11 asciilifeform i end up in the pigsties (bock, reddit, etc.) when i begin to think that the alternative is really a solipsism.
09:12 mircea_popescu and as to the bear and his honey, the moment before is called the endorphin shock.
09:12 asciilifeform because it isn't as if i have hitler's actual skull on my desk, as stalin did
09:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform your strategy may not be driven by your perceived decision space.
09:12 mircea_popescu enemy can fuck with that.
09:12 asciilifeform how do i actually ~know~ that any of what we do makes a difference outside the skull ?
09:13 mircea_popescu how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
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09:13 asciilifeform i am not seeing the victories.
09:13 asciilifeform the moon does not default to spoodge in my head.
09:13 mircea_popescu again : the problem of reacting instead of acting is that you'll necessarily be a muppet.
09:13 asciilifeform whereas my actual situation does default to defeat and misery, because that is the actual physical space i live in.
09:14 mircea_popescu now THIS is entirely within the skull.
09:14 asciilifeform not quite.
09:14 asciilifeform speaking of which!
09:14 * asciilifeform bbl, sitting on the stake
09:14 mircea_popescu it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom.
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09:14 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463343 <<< I'll apply for a grant and research this.
09:14 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 13:13 mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
09:15 mircea_popescu pity nasa got its funding cut.
09:17 shinohai "Dear Elon Musk, please fund an expedition to settle once and for all the argument of whether or not the moon is made of cheese of petrified ejaculate from space giants."
09:17 shinohai *or
09:18 mircea_popescu and speaking of neurotransmitters : the most reliable sign of opioid intoxication is decreased respiratory rate. a rate less than 12 where intoxication is a possibility (ie, not outright impossible) practically guarantees it's the case.
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09:58 phf a lot of keybase keys are "Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.47", "Keybase Go 1.0.11 (darwin)" and even some "Keybase OpenPGP JS 0.0.1"
10:02 mircea_popescu heh
10:02 mircea_popescu now THOSE people should probably be notified.
10:09 phf so i got 38479 users, i'm going to download their keys, and then perhaps rerun the crawler to see if anyone else comes up
10:11 mircea_popescu works.
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10:53 mircea_popescu and in other breakfast news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/4d5bc82003e288789f8462ad0e9802eb/tumblr_nrhax9qEx81sl4iuvo1_1280.jpg
11:01 punkman gonna work on the gwern archives later, feel free to suggest any interesting things too look for while I'm searching for gpg keys/messages
11:03 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463352 << ahahaha the traditional 'i am mircea_popescu, a demigod, and all ~you~ lusers oughta be in cock cages, puny mortals'
11:03 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 13:14 mircea_popescu: it has been the observation throughout the ages that intelligent people are only happy as slaves ; which is how that whole "behind great man - great woman" thing got started ; or why samuel clemens had to get his daily spankings in wife's bedroom.
11:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's not MY observation ; but the girl's. i personally neither agree nor approve.
11:04 mircea_popescu punkman pgp keys and key ratings, ie the wot, most valuable thing in there imo.
11:04 mircea_popescu i suppose you could also look for titpix, but... you know, who cares.
11:04 punkman what key ratings?
11:05 mircea_popescu they rate each other.
11:05 asciilifeform did they signed-rate each other ??
11:05 punkman doubtful
11:05 mircea_popescu (no, not on a sane sort of system, but on random and mostly braindamaged implementations. nevertheless.)
11:05 asciilifeform or the other, useless kind of rate.
11:05 asciilifeform one survives; the other - is writing on the beach sand.
11:05 punkman also a lot of keys only went through private messages, so I dunno how many I'll even find
11:05 asciilifeform protocol/promise.
11:06 mircea_popescu punkman well, chiefly why you're looking, to find out how many.
11:06 mircea_popescu there's this loose group of fucktards who keep spewing nonsense a la "cryptoanarchists===us dope fiends set the foundations for bitcoin" and "silk road mattered economically" and so on and so forth.
11:06 punkman btc/altcoin addresses might also be interesting but a bit more intensive to mine
11:07 mircea_popescu some [more] hard data to go with all the rest of the hard data making fools of them can't hurt.
11:07 mircea_popescu punkman odds are you'll end up with the various mtgoxen wallet list
11:07 asciilifeform i have a picture - by no means an expert one - of how these folks saw themselves -
11:08 asciilifeform sorta like partizans prior to red army showing up and reconnecting.
11:08 punkman https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.privacy.anon-server tard examples
11:08 punkman that I was browsing earlier
11:08 asciilifeform 'yes, hopelessly outnumbered and unskilled, but all around us is hitler'
11:08 mircea_popescu asciilifeform is it more or less summarized by pirateat40 harping in chan about how he's going to move the exchange rate and then getting his ass handed to him, publicly, in real time ?
11:08 asciilifeform nah that's just sc4mz0r sop
11:08 asciilifeform i'm speaking of the genuinely deluded
11:08 danielpbarron we don't "signed-rate" eachother either..
11:08 mircea_popescu the difference between pothead and "scammer" as this works in english is slight.
11:08 asciilifeform danielpbarron: we do, since assbot
11:09 mircea_popescu danielpbarron what we do reduces to that, yes.
11:09 danielpbarron but not in a way that outsiders can verify
11:09 mircea_popescu quite so.
11:10 asciilifeform http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2016/q2/255 << lulz, i sat on my arse and somebody did the filter wurk for me.
11:11 mircea_popescu in fact, the difference between pothead and esl-scammer is about of the size and substance of the difference between "poor woman" and "whore" in 1700. o, really , you're a good girl ?
11:11 asciilifeform (bock claimed to have used sks dump, but his set diverges considerably)
11:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform as pointed out here yest :p
11:11 asciilifeform well no, it wasn't straight from dev/random
11:11 mircea_popescu oh i see.
11:11 asciilifeform it coincided with our set about 80%
11:12 asciilifeform almost like he used, e.g., ft meade's collection
11:12 mircea_popescu i'm going to be sarcastic now.
11:15 mircea_popescu but sure, watching the derp implode is decent comedy. "oh lines match" "well you have 273 lines here and 259 lines there" "oh this is the list" "except here's 11 you don't have". etc etc.
11:15 mircea_popescu the principal property of the usg.misc is that it collapses under own weight, so.
11:15 mircea_popescu "stay out of collapse path" is pretty much equal victory.
11:15 asciilifeform gold:
11:15 asciilifeform 'Now to the 10 keys that have valid selfsigs. Two are for
11:15 asciilifeform alice () example com (and honestly it may be that these one comes from me,
11:15 asciilifeform but I don't remember exactly. I created broken test keys, but I don't
11:15 asciilifeform know if I uploaded any. At least the date roughly matches when I worked
11:15 asciilifeform on this).'
11:15 asciilifeform -- bock
11:16 mircea_popescu plox s/\n/ / if oyu're gonna do email formatted pastes.
11:16 asciilifeform ah yea
11:17 asciilifeform https://github.com/hannob/pgpecosystem << where was this last may ?
11:18 mircea_popescu "we weren't affraid enough yet"
11:18 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> here : http://qntra.net/2016/05/phuctor-factors-united-states-disa-key/#comment-56733 << Amazing how people at some point stopped following and reading links for context.
11:18 asciilifeform i'm just lulzing over the - apparently backdated???! - shithub
11:19 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo eh they just wanna whine for attention.
11:21 mircea_popescu anyway, is it a mere coincidence that some derp posing as a "free journalist" in berlin is the usg point man for the rsa diddling efforts ?
11:21 mircea_popescu seeing how most of the affected users happen to be in germany ?
11:22 asciilifeform waitasec
11:23 asciilifeform i thought bock was posing as a comp sci prof
11:23 asciilifeform and se333333k0000rit1 researcher
11:23 mircea_popescu no. he's an unemployed (and now unemployable) copywriter.
11:23 asciilifeform lel somehow i suspect that he is quite employed.
11:24 asciilifeform just not in the usual honest-wurk sense.
11:24 mircea_popescu and unfrequentable types are quite frequented. what's that do ?
11:24 mircea_popescu they're still unfrequentable.
11:24 asciilifeform what's an unfrequented-type ?
11:24 mircea_popescu hermits, really.
11:24 mircea_popescu you know, sourdough miners, naggum, redditards, that sorta thing
11:24 asciilifeform ah, folks like asciilifeform .
11:25 mircea_popescu awww. all the effort i put into being polite! gone in an instant!
11:25 asciilifeform lelz!
11:25 mircea_popescu but the point remains, there's a difference between unemployable and unemployed.
11:26 asciilifeform i'm also lulzing re how nobody seems to know about the old pgp standard where fp was bottom n bits of the mod
11:26 asciilifeform until i rubbed their snouts into it
11:26 asciilifeform and even now it is somehow 'irrelevant'
11:26 mircea_popescu expertise means something very different from itself, these days.
11:26 mircea_popescu rather mirroring the difference between understanding and mere recognition.
11:26 mircea_popescu at some point in the 70s the latter became the schoolhouse standard for knowledge,
11:27 mircea_popescu and in short order... cows are expert farmers. because they recognize a farmhouse.
11:27 mircea_popescu in other internet rot news : apparently google knows of no definition for the english world "unfrequentable"
11:27 mircea_popescu this takes the fucking cake already.
11:28 asciilifeform l0l!!
11:28 asciilifeform srsly?!
11:28 mircea_popescu look for self.
11:29 asciilifeform in other nyoooz, approaching the 2millionth modulus.
11:29 mircea_popescu sweet.
11:29 asciilifeform fuel tank has another 2-3 days in it.
11:30 mircea_popescu apparently there's going to be another 40kish or so from phf hopefully before then, which should bridge us over into next week, by which point hopefully either the ssh or the gwen archives start yielding
11:30 mircea_popescu such an unforeseen thirst, this.
11:30 asciilifeform well there is also the ~fresh~ sks.
11:30 mircea_popescu ah right. you got that ?
11:30 asciilifeform slicing it up, takes a while.
11:30 mircea_popescu cool.
11:31 asciilifeform prolly what i ought to do is have it suck in real time
11:31 asciilifeform i.e. host an sks mirror on dulap.
11:31 mircea_popescu yes, and the other additions re display keys.
11:31 asciilifeform but i really loathe the idea of propping up the old junkyard
11:31 asciilifeform yeah
11:31 mircea_popescu we'll end up the master sks in short order.
11:31 asciilifeform then we can start having our plugz pulled daily again, lel
11:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, it's a good idea. will ease the move to proper key format as discussed yest at any rate.
11:31 asciilifeform ease how?
11:31 asciilifeform convert ancient keyz?
11:32 mircea_popescu sure.
11:32 asciilifeform haha like mormon church converts dead indians
11:32 mircea_popescu quite.
11:32 asciilifeform whynot
11:33 mircea_popescu what's the 8ball at yet ?
11:33 phf are the keys going to be in s-expressions? :)
11:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: still cooking the 50mil.
11:34 mircea_popescu phf http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463187 suit you ?
11:34 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 01:04 mircea_popescu: right. so the new standard for a rsa key is (e, N, userstring), and everyone's expected to produce THAT.
11:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this weekend i will hook up the real-time grower
11:34 asciilifeform as suggested earlier in logz
11:34 mircea_popescu cool.
11:35 mircea_popescu kinda funny how it STILL pops moduli, really.
11:35 asciilifeform it might be more interesting to drop in random ~large~ primes tho
11:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: anything ever showing up in the usual 8ball can only be a factor of a random turd
11:35 asciilifeform never a proper key
11:35 mircea_popescu $timesincelastphuctoring
11:35 asciilifeform ^
11:35 mircea_popescu ~10 hours ftr
11:35 asciilifeform do want.
11:35 phf http://glyf.org/tmp/keybase.tar.xz
11:36 asciilifeform oh hey.
11:36 mircea_popescu ahaha win.
11:36 phf ^ asciilifeform mircea_popescu
11:36 mircea_popescu thankee mr.
11:37 phf d280f38e56eb4b1a4f6477e18b110d8df3ae9a1545b49a05047f1deff2de94f6f011e2d005c8e1107c2ad11bbd5e589085c50e1305e1b5da832705dd29b515d0 keybase.tar.xz
11:37 phf
11:39 asciilifeform neato!
11:39 asciilifeform it will go in the hopper.
11:39 mircea_popescu these can just go in as is, sweet.
11:39 * mircea_popescu is curious if this new quality feed will result in a flood.
11:39 mircea_popescu deedbot getting 25k lines in before morn.
11:40 asciilifeform well they'll go in after the current batch is over.
11:40 mircea_popescu what's it currently eat, about 30k/day ?
11:40 mircea_popescu more towards 50 ?
11:41 asciilifeform about 100k.
11:42 mircea_popescu aha. nb.
11:42 asciilifeform could EASILY be parallelized
11:42 asciilifeform but i deliberately did not focus on this piece.
11:42 mircea_popescu yeah sokay.
11:42 asciilifeform why blow entire box of chocolates in one night.
11:43 asciilifeform phf: did you get these with a crawler?
11:44 phf yes
11:44 asciilifeform what % of the total do they represent, would you say ?
11:44 mircea_popescu over 99%
11:44 asciilifeform spiffy
11:44 phf well, from my vantage point that's close to 100
11:45 mircea_popescu the site is eminently crawleable, page contains a reference to people who interacted with a key AND a selection of random keys.
11:45 asciilifeform tbh i'll be quite surprised if any of them pop
11:45 asciilifeform but hell knows.
11:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the estimate from the little crawling i did (looking at convergence of deduped/duped sets) places it at about 40k. previous, extant intel from business perspective said "under 50k". so all items point the same way
11:47 phf i'll do a second crawl, with a slightly cleaned up script, i might've lost a handful at the beginning because of some bugs. it's possible that there's some subpockets i didn't discover.
11:47 mircea_popescu phf want my deduped user list to check that theory ?
11:48 phf sure
11:48 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3VV8SZG
11:49 shinohai http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg <<<< bwahahahaha!
11:49 asciilifeform l0lnoway
11:50 mircea_popescu aww.
11:50 asciilifeform this is shabbatai zev-grade l0ltr0n1cs.
11:50 mircea_popescu what the fuck further damage can be caused to matonis or andresen. gaping-asshole.jpg already anyway
11:51 shinohai inb4 "we did it reddit!"
11:52 mircea_popescu lmao i'm sure.
11:52 mircea_popescu shinohai feel free to post http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1460897 for their butthurt.
11:52 a111 Logged on 2016-05-02 11:10 mircea_popescu: anyway. domain reg'd feb 16th, first post april 26th. teh boyz poured their sweat blood an' tears as the expression goes. too bad it won't work.
11:53 shinohai nb
11:54 phf asciilifeform: heads up, archive contains a bunch of users without keys, where the foo.asc files content is "SELF-SIGNED PUBLIC KEY NOT FOUND", presumably that's the ones that didn't upload (you'd think they would 404 instead)
11:54 mircea_popescu should be ok.
11:55 phf yeah, i won't reupload
11:55 asciilifeform sooo
11:55 phf just sanity checking the dump
11:55 asciilifeform i can't fucking resist
11:55 asciilifeform gonna throw it in the hopper NOW.
11:55 mircea_popescu quite the temptation bunny arentcha :D
11:57 shinohai https://www.reddit.com/r/KeybaseProofs/ <<< if signed objects are of any help re: keybase
11:57 asciilifeform 3... 2... 1...
11:58 asciilifeform engines...
11:58 asciilifeform piss on the bus wheels...
12:01 asciilifeform firing.
12:01 asciilifeform immediately we learn that a good chunk was already in sks.
12:01 asciilifeform and about 1 in 10 is a uniturd, these will have to be dealt with.
12:05 mircea_popescu phf any in mine not in yours ?
12:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they are being eaten.
12:07 asciilifeform and, i expect, all swallowed before sunday.
12:07 asciilifeform (being pumped in now, concurrently with the remnant of the old sks set)
12:08 asciilifeform kudos to phf for the harvest.
12:11 trinque shinohai │ http://www.drcraigwright.net/homepage.jpg <<<< bwahahahaha! << god damn, teh lulz
12:12 asciilifeform i deeply fail to grok this
12:12 asciilifeform why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ?
12:12 asciilifeform e.g., even bock, could play a better one
12:12 asciilifeform than some rando idiot
12:13 asciilifeform what, it is hard to find washed-up engineer ?
12:13 trinque hitler's fucking incompetent until proven otherwise
12:14 asciilifeform on what principle did they pick a diagnosable, clinical imbecile ?!
12:14 trinque self-selection?
12:17 asciilifeform the sheer... cheapness. of the attempt, is breathtaking.
12:21 phf mircea_popescu: two missing, one of them i recognize from early script bug
12:21 shinohai Thanks Obama!
12:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu, phf : misc lulz - http://valerii-palych.blogspot.com/2016/05/blog-post.html
12:24 asciilifeform and other fella asks a notbad question - https://www.pgpru.com/forum/kriptografija/raspredeleniedlinykljuchejjrsapochemukruglyeznachenijaineopasnolieto
12:24 asciilifeform 'why do we crowd keys in 'round number' bitlength neighbourhoods?'
12:24 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> e.g., even bock, could play a better one << rando Aussie "wanted it"
12:24 deedbot [Qntra] Hoaxtoshi Breaks Promise - http://qntra.net/2016/05/hoaxtoshi-breaks-promise/
12:26 mircea_popescu phf so then the odds of it being under 99.9% are < 10^-6
12:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ? << was just discussing this with the gurlz. you gotta appreciate hitler is not a person ; hitler is the fucking google ai, practically.
12:27 mircea_popescu a bunch of fuctarded desk pilots
12:28 mircea_popescu the whole of their strategy consists of a) these people couldn't possibly prevail, for they're "mean" [synonyms go here] ; b) these people couldn't possibly have prevailed, because a, so it never happened ; c) go back to a.
12:29 asciilifeform so why did hastings have to get fragged
12:29 mircea_popescu they can't do anything ; nor can they learn from their mistakes. this is the price pretending exacts of one.
12:29 asciilifeform if 'he's a meanie and couldn't possibly prevail' (tm)
12:29 mircea_popescu he didn't HAVE TO.
12:29 trinque asciilifeform: that was personal with what's his face lurch at the CIA
12:29 mircea_popescu lol, WE are.
12:29 mircea_popescu you know, alf the rape advocate.
12:29 trinque hastings was going after him on some corruption thing, so he was nominally head of the CIA and probably involved in something else that can organize better :p
12:29 asciilifeform hey i consider rape far too humane for these folk.
12:29 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Nah, its USG. All those sportsball movies they watch with their future fatgendered kids are getting to their heads. The formula is it is never the most athletic player that gets the moment in the big game. Its the loser who "wants it" more. I blame Emilio Estevez.
12:29 trinque brennan
12:30 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo they have that, spostsball movies ?
12:31 * trinque is very curious about what *other* organizations exist which cut through the various usg entities
12:31 mircea_popescu but in other news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/c82f899650e6d91fa732e26d4f3050e6/tumblr_nt3dbuVpEU1uolvabo4_500.gif
12:31 trinque certainly scientology, and certainly that's not the only
12:31 asciilifeform trinque: famously, mexican 'zeta'
12:31 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yeah. Mostly about fictional "kids" teams. Tis a disney invention. Gotta start the indoctrination early.
12:31 mircea_popescu trinque as BingoBoingo points out, "anyone who wants it bad enough" :D
12:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform didnt the us alphabet soup consist of mostly russian agents by mass throughout the 40s, 50s, etc ?
12:32 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: didn't pedo brock actually star in one of these filmz ?
12:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: afaik u.s. state dept. strictly
12:32 BingoBoingo Seriously though, what actual coach even of a kids teams is so opposed to winning that the losing whiner gets to play the big moment.
12:33 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: AHA that was his genera
12:33 mircea_popescu i thought brock was altar boy, not actually pedo per se ?
12:33 * BingoBoingo though brock tried to "complete the circle"
12:34 mircea_popescu ah maybe
12:34 BingoBoingo You know move up from altar boy to man of the cloth, failed.
12:43 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://www.databreachtoday.com/blogs/please-dont-pay-ransoms-fbi-urges-p-2120 << possibly nyooz
12:45 mircea_popescu lol right, please. except they fucking pay themselves. a little late for that.
12:46 mircea_popescu anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent.
12:47 asciilifeform in related lulz, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/04/nist_readies_postquantum_crypto_competition
12:58 asciilifeform moar nato lulz, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/05/royal-navy-fires-warning-shots-as-spanish-vessel-harasses-us-sub
13:10 asciilifeform in yet other nyooz, biometric lulz, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-iphones-fingerprints-20160430-story.html
13:11 asciilifeform '...authorities obtained a search warrant compelling the girlfriend of an alleged Armenian gang member to press her finger against an iPhone that had been seized...'
13:11 * asciilifeform eagerly awaits the first official 'coke machine warrant'
13:13 asciilifeform '"Unlike disclosing passcodes, you are not compelled to speak or say what's 'in your mind' to law enforcement," Gidari said. "'Put your finger here' is not testimonial or self-incriminating."'
13:13 asciilifeform gotta love the preeets.
13:13 shinohai preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
13:13 asciilifeform wants a craaacker!
13:14 shinohai I submitted a gofundme to get a designated shitting street named after him in India, but twasn't approved.
13:14 asciilifeform l0lz
13:16 mircea_popescu aahaha if it';s not testimonial then nothing it produces may be entered into record ?
13:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: one might naively think !
13:18 asciilifeform but it gets entered.
13:18 mircea_popescu hey, obamatax wasn't a care, right ?
13:18 asciilifeform as material evidence.
13:18 mircea_popescu deedbot- http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/fmpif-closure.txt
13:18 deedbot- accepted: 1
13:18 mircea_popescu jurov : qntra shares added ; f.mpif units substracted ; delta btc applied.
13:21 asciilifeform aaaaaaaaaaaand we're over 2m mods.
13:24 jurov mircea_popescu: looks like you have not subtracted but yanked *all* f.mpif from that account
13:25 mircea_popescu o.O
13:25 mircea_popescu darn.
13:26 mircea_popescu so i have. how much are you owed ?
13:28 jurov 266078-235013=31065
13:28 jurov or just add the div
13:28 mircea_popescu confirmed. adding 6.66810225 to your cash position. what a sum!
13:29 jurov ty!
13:29 mircea_popescu and hey, congrats on a job well done.
13:29 mircea_popescu same to hanbot, even if she was on the - towards the end. and to all others involved.
13:30 mircea_popescu nobody talks about it on rettardit etc, of course, but f.mpif boldly did what nobody else did ; nor anyone thought possible, in 2014 or 2010.
13:31 jurov wow, it was worth 21465 in the end?
13:32 mircea_popescu aha.
13:33 hanbot rip mpif! was a pleasure, even though pc4 didn't turn out so well.
13:33 mircea_popescu was a heartthrob for a month or so there, because it wasn't all too clear how bitbet will unwind. but in the end bettors were paid 100%
13:35 asciilifeform lulzily, it appears to still be on kako's box
13:35 asciilifeform he cleanly tombstoned it
13:35 asciilifeform it now sits silent, bet-less.
13:36 mircea_popescu i suppose there's weirder 86 btc purchases.
13:36 asciilifeform hitler, apparently, didn't get what he wanted out of the corpse
13:36 asciilifeform so left it to rot in the sun.
13:36 deedbot [Trilema] MPIF (F.MPIF) Closing Statement - http://trilema.com/2016/mpif-fmpif-closing-statement/
13:37 hanbot where sun = paperwork
13:37 mircea_popescu and in other news, "Hello, my name is Summer, I am a single mother who is looking for her right Dom. I am currently pregnant with number 2 and about to have her. I am prior military and know how to listen ;). "
13:38 mircea_popescu who was looking to start his whiteboy nigger harem ?
13:38 asciilifeform l0l! dependapotamus?!
13:38 mircea_popescu notrly, looks pretty enough.
13:39 asciilifeform where is it written that dependapotami have to be ugly.
13:39 mircea_popescu 1.72/64/24yo white girl.
13:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they have to be ugly and fat ; otherwise it's housewife neh
13:39 mircea_popescu besides, SHE was in the military. not some relative.
13:39 asciilifeform ah hm.
13:46 asciilifeform $up fromphuctor
13:46 deedbot fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
13:46 asciilifeform hello fromphuctor
13:46 asciilifeform who might you be ?
13:51 asciilifeform these people.
13:52 shinohai Thanks for sharing your ip, please come back!
13:52 asciilifeform germany!
13:58 mircea_popescu and in more installments of the neverending lulz, http://dpaste.com/02RH4CT
13:58 mircea_popescu frb.gov no less.
13:58 mircea_popescu which i suppose is supposed to be the fed.
13:59 asciilifeform dump the cert plox ?
13:59 asciilifeform for our enlightenment.
13:59 mircea_popescu it's just a derpy zip. i can fwd if you want ?
13:59 shinohai `niggers.trilema.net`
13:59 asciilifeform uuencode + paste
14:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform too late lol, i sent it.
14:01 jurov just feed it to imagemagick
14:01 mircea_popescu lol
14:02 asciilifeform l0l ty.
14:08 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cybersecurity-surveillance-idUSKCN0XR009 << qntra.
14:08 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:08 asciilifeform 'The secretive U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court did not deny a single government request in 2015...'
14:10 danielpbarron https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2823331/AGOReportFarakAmherstDrugLab.pdf >> Farak testified about her extensive drug use; her siphoning of drugs from the Lab's standards which were used to test drug samples, from police-submitted samples of drugs which were intended to be tested for evidentiary purposes in pending criminal cases, and from other chemists' samples; and her manufacturing in the Lab of crack cocaine for her
14:10 asciilifeform another one for BingoBoingo : http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/state-chemist-was-high-daily-thousands-of-drug-prosecutions-jeopardized
14:10 asciilifeform 'All told, she estimated that she was smoking crack ten to twelve times a day.'
14:10 danielpbarron l0l
14:10 asciilifeform ah danielpbarron got first !
14:11 danielpbarron by a hair!
14:11 asciilifeform lelz
14:11 asciilifeform gold:
14:11 asciilifeform 'The report said that the woman began taking the lab's so-called "standard" drugs, the ones purchased from drug companies as a control in testing. "Farak began to consume the Amherst Lab's standards on a fairly regular basis beginning in late 2004 or early 2005," according to the report. "The first standard she admitted to using was the methamphetamine standard, which was the largest or most volumin
14:11 danielpbarron "in other massachusettes newz"
14:12 asciilifeform ous standard at the Amherst Lab.'
14:12 danielpbarron my brother works for a place that makes such standards; from what he described, the stuff doesn't sound like's it's even recreationally usable
14:14 asciilifeform 'According to Farak, the "high" from the drug lasted approximately 8 to 10 hours. In addition, the drug gave her the desired effects that she had discovered in her research: "I felt amazing. It gave me energy. I felt more alert. I did not wish it but it gave me the pep I was looking for." Farak maintained that her work was not affected at the Lab but that the methamphetamine made her "more alert and
14:14 mircea_popescu wait, is this another one or the same one ?
14:14 asciilifeform more let's get this done sort of thing." She insisted that she "analyzed everything according to procedures"11 and that she did all the testing required, in fact "double-check[ing] her work." '
14:14 asciilifeform new one, looks like
14:14 mircea_popescu at some point mass courts were working triple time to catch up with 1000s of dead cases.
14:14 mircea_popescu haha. mmmkay. LAW ENFORCEMENT
14:14 mircea_popescu never ceases to unintentionally entertain.
14:15 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how many of these until we just declare usg da offices a criminal entreprise wholesale and start prosecuting them for narco crimes ?
14:16 asciilifeform i once worked in a (non-criminalistic, academic) bio laboratory formerly - according to local lore - staffed by entirely different group, headed by phd who was eventually defrocked and disgraced for having dipped into his official cocaine stash
14:16 asciilifeform (it was present for some investigation involving rats)
14:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as if it was ~ever~ other than a criminal enterprise.
14:17 mircea_popescu heh
14:18 mircea_popescu and in other criminal entreprise news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/44e412c0fbeb869aa3504361a4a13200/tumblr_nsqp2uAgQ51tyw73vo1_1280.jpg
14:19 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> anyway. ransomware seems the designated end-microsoft agent. << Please submit to qntra or longform this lulz. With Phuctor happily churning writing this would be a great public service.
14:19 mircea_popescu i've been mulling it over, but... kinda too soon.
14:20 asciilifeform from the lulstream, https://dankaminsky.com/2016/05/03/the-cryptographically-provable-con-man
14:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu: waiwut
14:21 asciilifeform kaminsky's link - hilariously - gavin backpedals...
14:21 asciilifeform get this:
14:21 asciilifeform 'It was a mistake to agree to publish my post before I saw his– I assumed his post would simply be a signed message anybody could easily verify.'
14:21 mircea_popescu unsurprisingly.
14:21 asciilifeform ooooops! i forgot to verify the sig!!11111
14:21 asciilifeform srsly?!
14:22 shinohai http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Mexican-Congresswoman-Declares-War-on-Memes-20160504-0052.html <<< war on memes lmao
14:22 mircea_popescu hey, dan kaminsky wants to piss on his own face, he's more than welcome to.
14:22 mircea_popescu entirely reasonable my foot. "if you call things things then things become things" "yeah, such as your face becomes a turd."
14:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: quote was from - supposedly - gavin's letter to him.
14:23 asciilifeform not k himself.
14:23 asciilifeform (who, afaik, is mainly a spamologist)
14:23 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ous standard at the Amherst Lab.' << Between this, Gavin, and Trigglypuff Amherst is starting to sound like quite the lizard den.
14:23 asciilifeform $up pjp
14:23 deedbot pjp voiced for 30 minutes.
14:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform left him a comment. #112983
14:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: looks like not surfaced yet
14:25 mircea_popescu i don't expect it to. told him he's an idiot, which is probably all the more unacceptable as it's factual.
14:26 asciilifeform lel
14:26 mircea_popescu but hey, supposedly you should give people a chance.
14:26 trinque I'm glad my recent optimizations to deedbot have made it more stable :p
14:26 trinque (didn't do shit)
14:26 mircea_popescu though i wonder how many times it has happened to date idiot got called an idiot, stopped and realised he is an idiot, fixed his head.
14:26 mircea_popescu possiobly never.
14:31 * BingoBoingo doesn't remember if called an idiot or not during early ventures to future Republic's forums
14:38 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/SwOcbg4.png
14:40 * asciilifeform dun click BingoBoingo's photos no moar. esp. not before eating.
14:40 mircea_popescu or after.\
14:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo single-handedly ruined 'flyover state america' for me.
14:40 BingoBoingo Just wait 30 minutes before eating after viewing photo or 30 minutes after eeating before photo
14:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Funny because most of the photos are Amherst massachussettes
14:41 asciilifeform i used to picture it as quiet, corn fields, tumbleweed, depressed farmers smoking homegrown tobacco and mumbling incoherently, and other nice things
14:42 BingoBoingo Flyover America has a lot of that so long as you avoid walmart
14:42 asciilifeform yeah but afaik all settlements there now cluster around lolmart
14:42 asciilifeform which provides all the stuff that dun grow from the ground.
14:43 BingoBoingo Nah, lolmarts settle on the fringe of such settlements for easy access for major peripheral roads
14:43 asciilifeform and i'm told now the farmerz have tv sets, which they stare at instead of old, good, wholesome hobbies like sister-fucking
14:44 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You just gotta go to the Home Depot and pick up all the fit divorced womenfolk.
14:44 asciilifeform what are they doing in home despot ?
14:44 asciilifeform buying cement ?
14:46 shinohai Whores have to buy their new home supplies with ex's alimony somewhere.
14:51 asciilifeform is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ?
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14:51 asciilifeform or wut.
14:55 shinohai Lulzy but I don't have anymore Qntra in me: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36210680
14:56 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> what are they doing in home despot ? << Hunting the eligible working men.
14:58 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> buying cement ? << Frequently. But they way it works is by going to a venue where working people go they filter out the Beetus Barges at the door for the most part.
14:59 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: where are these circus freaks who are supposedly everywhere ?
14:59 asciilifeform believe or not - they aren't here !
15:00 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: On the college campuses and Walmarts. Seriously check the dining hall and not just the library.
15:00 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: actually i go there often.
15:00 asciilifeform ~100% of the gurlz are hot.
15:01 BingoBoingo Anyways. 38 year old woman on the prowl wants a man who unlike her transmayo ex with an office job that can lay pipe, she goes where the pipe is sold.
15:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i thought the more typical american pattern was the opposite
15:05 asciilifeform where a chick is no longer appealing to pipe runners and looks for office bag
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15:06 BingoBoingo What does they men's opinions have to do with the chick's behaviors?
15:07 asciilifeform same thing employer's opinions have to do with a stinking bum's behaviour ?
15:08 asciilifeform e.g., his behaviour of not driving 'mercedes'
15:12 BingoBoingo But this is 'Murica. If she thinks she can bag a hard working trades man god damn it she will spend a good chunk of her week in that pursuit.
15:13 asciilifeform i would comment but i realized that i've never actually been to BingoBoingo's america, so.
15:13 deedbot [Qntra] United States Surveillance Court Rejected No Orders In 2015 - http://qntra.net/2016/05/united-states-surveillance-court-rejected-no-orders-in-2015/
15:13 asciilifeform prolly closest i ever came, at least culturally, is going through delawre.
15:13 asciilifeform *delaware
15:13 asciilifeform corn fields, lolmarts, the worx.
15:13 asciilifeform even though 'not flyover'
15:14 BingoBoingo I dunno Delaware. Prolly too close to New York and hence corrupted.
15:14 asciilifeform i mention it because it was full of the joys BingoBoingo described.
15:14 asciilifeform including, e.g., 'land whales'.
15:15 BingoBoingo See, they do exist and you have seen them with your own eyes.
15:16 asciilifeform oh i knew that they exist.
15:16 BingoBoingo You just try to forget the horror
15:16 asciilifeform in specially-designated leprosoriae.
15:17 trinque like pittsburgh
15:17 trinque all of PA really.
15:19 * BingoBoingo kind of disappoint alf declined to comment on Petrocheese qntra http://qntra.net/2016/05/usg-stockpile-of-petrocheese-hits-new-high/
15:19 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: supposing that i correctly understood mircea_popescu's corn chronicles, the 'obeasts' belong to warren buffett every bit as surely as dr mengele's victims belonged to mengele
15:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: confusing post, implies that the surplus is of euro - i.e. actual - cheese
15:21 asciilifeform (afaik eu does not make petrocheese for export or otherwise)
~ 16 minutes ~
15:37 asciilifeform i am off to - so help me satan - a golf field.
15:37 asciilifeform for wurk!!
15:38 * asciilifeform bbl.
~ 51 minutes ~
16:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463753 << wtf, nobody wants a noob cunt anymore than a noob computer science expert.
16:29 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 18:51 asciilifeform: is today's 'theme' - ecologically-clean!1111, 100% post-consumer recycled cunt ?
16:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-05#1463765 << notrly. too many office drones in the "civilised" world.
16:34 a111 Logged on 2016-05-05 19:05 asciilifeform: where a chick is no longer appealing to pipe runners and looks for office bag
16:35 mircea_popescu time's not kind to women, but genetics are, and even time's not THAT unkind. nothing can touch the horror puritanism wreaks once it gets going.
~ 4 hours 24 minutes ~
20:59 mircea_popescu omaigerd you can't imagine how butthurt argentina press is over trump winning
21:00 mircea_popescu it's a pleasure to read their fishwraps.
21:07 mircea_popescu lol @alfie introducing actually signed messages to the supposed "seclist". which is like... the first time ever the string "sha 512" even appeared in that archive i guess ?
21:08 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that "boatoshi" thing has a future methinks :D
21:08 mircea_popescu as in "are you fresh off the boatoshi ???" etc
21:09 mircea_popescu and in other opsec news etc, http://67.media.tumblr.com/676b598c7447a5334fb7d084b806066c/tumblr_nsig6aas3m1uo6u6mo1_500.gif
21:11 shinohai ^ one way to keep secrets from leaking
21:11 mircea_popescu that's airtight.
~ 32 minutes ~
21:44 asciilifeform l0l!
21:57 mod6 General update: for the last 4 days or so, have been just working out some of the kinks in `t', getting it ready to send to the list.
21:57 mod6 Shouldn't be tooo much longer. Salud!
22:01 mircea_popescu cheerz
22:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so keybase set more or less done w/o incident ?
22:06 mircea_popescu ah, no Known Moduli: 2018943. vs 2mn earlier today... so it ~is~ actually doing more like 20-30k/24 hrs ?
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22:55 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463810 << still going, about 5k in. but this is in parallel with the tail end of sks.
22:55 a111 Logged on 2016-05-06 02:06 mircea_popescu: ah, no Known Moduli: 2018943. vs 2mn earlier today... so it ~is~ actually doing more like 20-30k/24 hrs ?
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22:56 asciilifeform also many of the kb keyz are in sks.
22:56 asciilifeform also the eating rate varies with db load (from readers)
23:09 asciilifeform $up dooglus
23:09 deedbot dooglus voiced for 30 minutes.
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23:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 5877/38479 at present time, to be exact.
23:30 asciilifeform 1256094/1298527 from sks rsa set.
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