| 00:00 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
the paintings within are by us |
| 00:00 |
phf |
(ben_vulpes asciilifeform http://glyf.org/tmp/shiva-swank-op.png only works for own defined functions though, neither builtins nor ffi stuff seems to have enough meta) |
| 00:00 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1RWa6ya ) |
| 00:00 |
punkman |
ah, maybe tell the guy to put a note in the ads, I was confused |
| 00:01 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
what were u looking at exactly |
| 00:02 |
punkman |
JuliaTourianski_: just the maxfield.me/blog/ link |
| 00:03 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
hmm maybe it could say "art by Ricky Allman" etc |
| 00:05 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
they're great gifts |
| 00:06 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
better details here: https://imgur.com/a/RILhF |
| 00:06 |
assbot |
Kialara Signature Series ~ Bitcoin Wallet - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1QUd3dE ) |
| 00:06 |
ben_vulpes |
and JuliaTourianski_ a great salesbabe |
| 00:06 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
and im not even wearing spandex |
| 00:07 |
ben_vulpes |
salesbabes don't wear spandex, boothbabes do. |
| 00:09 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 00:10 |
mircea_popescu |
o, did you do the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ thing ? |
| 00:10 |
assbot |
I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQMd6w ) |
| 00:11 |
phf |
also great investment for those shtf preppers |
| 00:11 |
punkman |
http://juliatourianski.com/?p=126 these are fun |
| 00:11 |
assbot |
Forest | Julia Tourianksi ... ( http://bit.ly/1RWaIUi ) |
| 00:12 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
only .1 btc? jewy. |
| 00:12 |
mircea_popescu |
lol it's not prostitution, it's artistry! |
| 00:13 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
thanks +punkman |
| 00:13 |
mircea_popescu |
as per wilde! |
| 00:13 |
phf |
very билибин |
| 00:13 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, im off. laters all. |
| 00:13 |
JuliaTourianski_ |
yeah, definitely an ode to him and also Bauer |
| 00:16 |
phf |
perhaps i could lightly annotate serialize machinery to get objects across the boundary, asciilifeform? |
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| 03:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00057414 = 13.1478 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 05:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36336 @ 0.00057358 = 20.8416 BTC [-] |
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| 05:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28650 @ 0.00057421 = 16.4511 BTC [+] |
| 06:11 |
mircea_popescu |
https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2016-02/msg00416.html << anyone fuckin looked at o'donell's glibc patch ? |
| 06:11 |
assbot |
Carlos O'Donell - [PATCH] CVE-2015-7547 --- glibc getaddrinfo() stack-based buffer overflo ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrHMwR ) |
| 06:11 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, qntra is on the first google page for the thing o.O |
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| 06:52 |
shinohai |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413041 <<< heh congrats BingoBoingo |
| 06:52 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2016 11:11:37; mircea_popescu: in other news, qntra is on the first google page for the thing o.O |
| 06:53 |
mircea_popescu |
srsly. |
| 06:57 |
shinohai |
Buenas Dias, here's some Yanet Garcia to fuel your Lunes: https://i.imgur.com/za6FrOO.webm |
| 06:57 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1TzYp1h ) |
| 07:06 |
mircea_popescu |
in other lolz, the interwebs offers exactly 0 information on how to turn dns lookups off, or itable it away, or ufw/csf/etc it shut, or any of that. because apparently this is not something one could want to do. it will break your internet! why ? dns is about as useful as painted wings on a cow, there's exactly nothing internet-wise that needs (or for that matter even significantly benefits from) dns. nevertheless it's |
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| 07:06 |
mircea_popescu |
baked in everywhere, to the level of fucking glibc (what fucking business does glibc have with offering a spurious aliasing service for ips AT ALL ?! that shit belongs three levels below glibc!) |
| 07:06 |
mircea_popescu |
very instructive example in how anglotardism works, imo. |
| 07:07 |
mircea_popescu |
the world, if you had the misfortune of being spawned by a dumbass with a drunkard, mostly consists of things "you couldn't possibily want", let alone need. |
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| 07:55 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413035 << sounds right |
| 07:55 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2016 05:16:47; phf: perhaps i could lightly annotate serialize machinery to get objects across the boundary, asciilifeform? |
| 07:57 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413047 << we had this very thread a year ago, when first encountered the libnss claptrap |
| 07:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2016 12:06:43; mircea_popescu: in other lolz, the interwebs offers exactly 0 information on how to turn dns lookups off, or itable it away, or ufw/csf/etc it shut, or any of that. because apparently this is not something one could want to do. it will break your internet! why ? dns is about as useful as painted wings on a cow, there's exactly nothing internet-wise that needs (or for that matter even significantly benefits from) dns |
| 07:57 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i'm writing it up. |
| 07:57 |
mircea_popescu |
this time it's consumer-y enough. |
| 07:57 |
asciilifeform |
neato |
| 08:01 |
mircea_popescu |
large article, but imo worth it. |
| 08:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00057358 = 11.4716 BTC [-] |
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| 08:34 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046028 << oldie, goes well with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-02-2016#1411186 megathread |
| 08:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-03-2015 18:38:19; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: short summary: patch submitted by google chrome devs themselves; supposedly to simplify their sandbox 'jail' mechanism |
| 08:34 |
assbot |
Logged on 20-02-2016 22:20:40; mircea_popescu: moe finds bitcoin in 2056, long after the republic prevailed, through his gf at the time. he steals her script, copies her .wot directory and now has a node! |
| 08:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97191 @ 0.00057425 = 55.8119 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 09:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66700 @ 0.00057456 = 38.3232 BTC [+] {3} |
| 09:07 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo do you happen to know offhand where on qntra is the affidavit of random usg derp that claims ross ulbricht was found through whatever experts sex change website ? |
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| 09:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117700 @ 0.00057126 = 67.2373 BTC [-] {3} |
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| 10:13 |
deedbot- |
[Trilema] Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations - http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/ |
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| 10:30 |
shinohai |
!s http://jcarlosnorte.com/security/2016/02/21/date-leak-gzip-tor.html |
| 10:30 |
assbot |
HTTP GZIP Compression remote date and time leak ... ( http://bit.ly/1oDlBPC ) |
| 10:30 |
assbot |
0 results for 'http://jcarlosnorte.com/security/2016/02/21/date-leak-gzip-tor.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fjcarlosnorte.com%2Fsecurity%2F2016%2F02%2F21%2Fdate-leak-gzip-tor.html |
| 10:34 |
mircea_popescu |
awww. |
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| 10:57 |
punkman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogji3nSvPjg |
| 10:57 |
assbot |
This is the future - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1oDnHz4 ) |
| 10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
she looks pretty sad. |
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| 11:16 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo do you happen to know offhand where on qntra is the affidavit of random usg derp that claims ross ulbricht was found through whatever experts sex change website ? << not offhand, can dig prolly december 2014 |
| 11:19 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/please-stop-using-dns-already-and-other-considerations/#comment-116612 |
| 11:19 |
assbot |
Please stop using DNS already, and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1oDpHYg ) |
| 11:21 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2013#338384 |
| 11:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 02-10-2013 19:43:20; taub: Ulbricht posted on Stack Overflow using his real name, asking .How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using curl in php?.. One minute later he changed his username to .frosty., but a subpoena shows the original name. |
| 11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo i kinda wrote around it. but it turns out it was one gary alford |
| 11:36 |
BingoBoingo |
ah |
| 11:37 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform see answer. |
| 11:39 |
asciilifeform |
see answer 2 |
| 11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
idem. |
| 11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
and to assuage any fears for the pr0n, http://40.media.tumblr.com/741391ebf0c2b9fd420dfe99031e3753/tumblr_mthsgb1EVZ1qlne6uo1_12080.jpg |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1mT4gQW ) |
| 11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
http://40.media.tumblr.com/741391ebf0c2b9fd420dfe99031e3753/tumblr_mthsgb1EVZ1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg even |
| 11:47 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1mT4h7C ) |
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| 12:19 |
asciilifeform |
'Maintainer promised 72 virgins if he made a release. Maintainer was not told that they were all Richard Branson clones. Maintainer is pretty cheesed off about that.' << http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/xa lulz |
| 12:19 |
assbot |
xa (xa65): a portable 6502 cross assembler package ... ( http://bit.ly/219VzEP ) |
| 12:23 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
| 12:25 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 56 @ 0.15107971 = 8.4605 BTC [+] |
| 12:26 |
deedbot- |
[Qntra] Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone - http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/ |
| 12:30 |
asciilifeform |
http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46908 |
| 12:30 |
assbot |
Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/219Xn0H ) |
| 12:32 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46909 |
| 12:32 |
assbot |
Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RiD74O ) |
| 12:39 |
asciilifeform |
http://news.softpedia.com/news/experiment-gets-encryption-key-from-computer-in-another-room-through-the-wall-500701.shtml << for some reason i thought the very same paper by the very same people came out last year ??? |
| 12:39 |
mircea_popescu |
lol nb |
| 12:39 |
asciilifeform |
or hm, the last one was on ground leakage |
| 12:39 |
asciilifeform |
but otherwise same setup |
| 12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
in better news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/5cb0c4ead0bc8e5474d4d8dad86ea142/tumblr_mtdnhntymp1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg |
| 12:40 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1RiEn80 ) |
| 12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it references cve 2015 7511, so it would be the one last year |
| 12:43 |
asciilifeform |
looks like different paper. this time with honest antenna and no electrical connection to the victim |
| 12:43 |
asciilifeform |
a proper reenactment of the scene depicted in 'cryptonomicon' |
| 12:44 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently it's reported feb 12th reported as fixed 17th |
| 12:44 |
asciilifeform |
fixed?! |
| 12:45 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently it was a leak of the ecdh keys, and there's an update libgrcyprt |
| 12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ie they forgot to mention it works specifically on ec crypto. but anyway. |
| 12:46 |
asciilifeform |
there is no ~fix~ for radiating the bits. other than... not to. |
| 12:46 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform there's no rule that you have to leak useful bits. |
| 12:47 |
asciilifeform |
it is possible to calculate in such a way that the same bits are radiated regardless of inputs. but NOT on x86. |
| 12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
mitre, amusingly, doesn't properly list it. |
| 12:48 |
* |
BingoBoingo relishes that moment seeing a headline with "CryptoFascist" and having no idea which way the story under it is going to go when read. |
| 12:49 |
mircea_popescu |
neway, therein lies the fix : https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2016q1/000384.html |
| 12:49 |
assbot |
[Announce] Libgcrypt 1.6.5 with security fix released ... ( http://bit.ly/1RiFwMQ ) |
| 12:49 |
asciilifeform |
phun phakt, mitre is one of the largest usg 'think tank' setups. |
| 12:49 |
mircea_popescu |
very specifically ecdsa problem with weierstrass curves. |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
but hey, why say this. why say dns is bs. why say any of the things that actually matter, when instead could just discuss convenient generalities. |
| 12:50 |
asciilifeform |
where is the paper on what the ~fixed~ ver radiates ? |
| 12:50 |
asciilifeform |
and where is the patch for gpg 1.4 ? |
| 12:50 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu: mpex withdrawal pls |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
"security hole found in gpg" vs "security hole found in ecdsa - rsa not affected, you should have not switched" |
| 12:50 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: iirc their last paper concerned rsa |
| 12:50 |
asciilifeform |
it radiates just the same. |
| 12:50 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov on it. |
| 12:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform there was iirc a flaw with chinese remainders, that was introduced much like the dns hole, for no reason, and then burned. |
| 12:52 |
asciilifeform |
l0l there are window washers dangling outside my office |
| 12:52 |
asciilifeform |
and i'm not sure i wouldn't trade places with them. |
| 12:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33563 @ 0.00056927 = 19.1064 BTC [-] |
| 12:53 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google site:qntra.net chinese remainder |
| 12:53 |
gribble |
Many Network Appliances Leak Master TLS Private Keys Through ...: <http://qntra.net/2015/09/many-network-appliances-leak-master-tls-private-keys-through-forward-secrecy/> |
| 12:54 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
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| 13:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170513 @ 0.00057448 = 97.9563 BTC [+] {4} |
| 13:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90937 @ 0.00057596 = 52.3761 BTC [+] |
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| 13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0279d6b242bbf03963306d28eecc107f/tumblr_mjie69W4CR1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg |
| 13:58 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Qu3gur ) |
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| 14:32 |
BingoBoingo |
http://qntra.net/2016/02/tor-and-http-gzip-leak-local-time-zone/#comment-46911 |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
Tor And HTTP Gzip Leak Local Time Zone | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PSYdq7 ) |
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| 15:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00056927 = 19.469 BTC [-] |
| 15:18 |
mircea_popescu |
commented. |
| 15:20 |
* |
BingoBoingo seriously wonders what universe ever particular break in various derp services matters |
| 15:21 |
mircea_popescu |
no idea. |
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| 15:48 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56851 @ 0.00056927 = 32.3636 BTC [-] |
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| 16:11 |
mircea_popescu |
and in out there news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/b2428a12541602e3059789fbf4d042d5/tumblr_o204u8okbr1qas1eao1_1280.jpg |
| 16:11 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1Q6Aeld ) |
| 16:12 |
BingoBoingo |
White socialists have been trying to Uncle Tom southern blacks since the 1870's |
| 16:13 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
| 16:14 |
BingoBoingo |
Long history of this shit. |
| 16:16 |
* |
BingoBoingo once took graduate classes where this was presented as some sort of "organic" phenomenon in black America even though the white evangalists of socialism (many of whom were influenced by the St Louis Hegelians) were prominently mentioned by the black authors in their literature. |
| 16:20 |
deedbot- |
[Qntra] Emergency Physicians Fail Matt DeHart - http://qntra.net/2016/02/emergency-physicians-fail-matt-dehart/ |
| 16:22 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65832 @ 0.00056927 = 37.4762 BTC [-] |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
that's pretty crazy. |
| 16:23 |
BingoBoingo |
Seriously, but torts in TMSR are possibru in the future |
| 16:25 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell mod6 there it is, cheers! |
| 16:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 16:25 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu: sharp piece on dns. looking forward to this being 'news' in 2019. |
| 16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
at the earliest. |
| 16:35 |
PeterL |
regarding removing dns, is there a replacement mechanism for resolving hosts not on your short list? |
| 16:36 |
BingoBoingo |
archive.is |
| 16:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16791 @ 0.00056518 = 9.4899 BTC [-] |
| 16:37 |
PeterL |
what I mean is if you want to add a host to your list, where do you get the ip? |
| 16:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28509 @ 0.00057598 = 16.4206 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
PeterL you can put any website that checks dns on your short list if you wish |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
like say intodns.com |
| 16:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 40 @ 0.15107971 = 6.0432 BTC [+] |
| 16:49 |
trinque |
PeterL: dig @8.8.8.8 arsebook.com |
| 16:49 |
trinque |
or whichever DNS server |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
trinque you didn;t read teh trilema didja :D |
| 16:51 |
trinque |
at that moment trinque was enlightened |
| 16:51 |
trinque |
lol |
| 16:51 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe |
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| 17:19 |
deedbot- |
[Qntra] British Pound Falling - http://qntra.net/2016/02/british-pound-falling/ |
| 17:24 |
* |
asciilifeform fully expects to get deharted at some point in the none too distant future. |
| 17:27 |
BingoBoingo |
!Up mixdio |
| 17:28 |
pete_dushenski |
assbot: show the courtz your enumerated goodness and that it doesn't include kiddy pr0n. |
| 17:29 |
pete_dushenski |
and start a 'safe the alf' bitcoin fund for your defense. you'll be fine. |
| 17:29 |
asciilifeform |
for my tombstone. |
| 17:29 |
pete_dushenski |
mausoleum |
| 17:30 |
asciilifeform |
l0lsoleum |
| 17:30 |
pete_dushenski |
depends if alphago wins, i guess |
| 17:30 |
jurov |
have epitaph ready? |
| 17:30 |
jurov |
my guess is "At last." |
| 17:30 |
pete_dushenski |
"told you!" |
| 17:30 |
asciilifeform |
!s nine edge first |
| 17:30 |
assbot |
1 results for 'nine edge first' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nine+edge+first |
| 17:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-03-2015#1049444 << related. |
| 17:31 |
assbot |
Logged on 12-03-2015 01:41:14; asciilifeform: 'Bien Darkmans then, Bouse Mort and Ken The bien Coves bings awast, On Chates to trine by Rome-Coves dine, For his long lib at last.' |
| 17:31 |
mircea_popescu |
At Last Lifeform |
| 17:31 |
asciilifeform |
deadform. |
| 17:38 |
asciilifeform |
as i said many time, i think, |
| 17:38 |
asciilifeform |
i won't believe that i was at all effective against usg until i am being sawed apart in a cellar. |
| 17:40 |
asciilifeform |
i am only still walking because not worth the whatever 50k or what it costs to have a man deharted |
| 17:40 |
asciilifeform |
or 100k to have him hastingsed, etc. |
| 17:41 |
pete_dushenski |
what 50-100k. it costs 50x that much to spec a space pen. |
| 17:42 |
pete_dushenski |
how could dehart be less than 20 mn ? maybe 50 ? |
| 17:42 |
asciilifeform |
possibly... 0 |
| 17:42 |
pete_dushenski |
think of the overhead |
| 17:42 |
asciilifeform |
no, recall http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-10-2015#1299189 |
| 17:42 |
assbot |
Logged on 15-10-2015 01:03:43; mircea_popescu: if you want a Tatra truck, ask for it. |
| 17:42 |
asciilifeform |
^ mega-thread on subj |
| 17:43 |
asciilifeform |
the infrastructure to 'rid me please of this insolent priest' is there. |
| 17:43 |
asciilifeform |
and has to be exercised once in a spell. |
| 17:43 |
pete_dushenski |
how many lazy retards to you have to employ with 'fairness policies' to capture a couple strong retards capable of torturing usg enemies |
| 17:43 |
asciilifeform |
none, this all works for the other usg. |
| 17:43 |
asciilifeform |
the one that isn't 'affirmative action compliant' |
| 17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
lol. |
| 17:44 |
asciilifeform |
as for deharting, it isn't altogether different from what american medics do to folks ~anyway~ |
| 17:44 |
asciilifeform |
no need for specially trained staff of mengeles. |
| 17:45 |
asciilifeform |
any hospital will do, just walk a man in who is pre-prepped with $pill to mimic, e.g., schizo |
| 17:45 |
asciilifeform |
and the local white coats, aided by american pharma, will do the rest. |
| 17:45 |
asciilifeform |
usg's been working on this since 1940s. |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> as for deharting, it isn't altogether different from what american medics do to folks ~anyway~ << word. |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
the error there is to assume this was in any sense deliberate. was not, sop. except nobody cares what hitler does to anon derps. |
| 17:47 |
asciilifeform |
what, after getting cp'd, he shat himself naturally ? |
| 17:47 |
asciilifeform |
not impossible, but also no reason why they'd stop at cping |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
see, american псикушка is high-tech, spiffy, compared to old sov |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
here, they ~actually~ take care to drive the victim mad. |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
*психушка fuck this keyboard |
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| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
soo there was https://sites.google.com/site/ledblockcipher/home-1 |
| 18:05 |
assbot |
The LED Block Cipher ... ( http://bit.ly/1L78Oij ) |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
and i read 'security' and find, |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
'The LED lightweight block cipher provide strong security arguments against all state-of-the-art attacks, even in the related-key model. In particular against differential and linear cryptanalysis: one can easily show that any 4-round differential path for any of the LED versions will contain at least 25 active Sboxes (i.e. Sboxes with a non-zero difference) in the single-key model. Even in t |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
he more pessimistic related-key model, one can show that any 16-round differential path for any of the LED versions will contain at least 50 active Sboxes.' |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
bbbbut |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
where is the mention of, e.g., np hardness ?? |
| 18:05 |
asciilifeform |
nowhere. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
what is this nonsense. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
one can show there's shoeboxes ? |
| 18:06 |
asciilifeform |
entomological sample, mircea_popescu . |
| 18:06 |
asciilifeform |
put with the other cockroaches. |
| 18:06 |
asciilifeform |
down in the cabinet on the left. |
| 18:06 |
mircea_popescu |
aok |
| 18:07 |
* |
asciilifeform did a backbreaking literature survey, searching for signs of intelligent life, found... |
| 18:07 |
asciilifeform |
none |
| 18:07 |
mircea_popescu |
i can show there's shoeboxes in the cryptologically hard cabinet under the drawer with bras and shit |
| 18:12 |
asciilifeform |
largely unrelated but very spiffy, |
| 18:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.linurs.org/mc14500.html |
| 18:12 |
assbot |
MC14500 1 bit CPU (ICU) ... ( http://bit.ly/1L7a0Cj ) |
| 18:12 |
asciilifeform |
^ not a misprint |
| 18:15 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.ganssle.com/articles/quirkychips.html << more re: same. |
| 18:15 |
assbot |
Quirky Chips ... ( http://bit.ly/1QurdSa ) |
| 18:15 |
asciilifeform |
'it didn't have a program counter. Designers were expected to create one external to the CPU. It's width was, well, anything the developer wanted. Running a tiny bit of code? Maybe an 8 bit PC was appropriate. Or 32 bits for those applications needing 4 GN (giga-nibbles) of powerhouse processing.' |
| 18:15 |
asciilifeform |
'So the inevitable question is "how did a jump work?" That was entirely up to the engineer crafting the circuits. The OEN instruction could be used to disable any changes occurring on the output data; at the end of a loop assert OEN and let the machine execute whatever instructions - hopefully NOPs - remained until the PC rolled over. There was a JMP, but that instruction simply toggled an ou |
| 18:15 |
asciilifeform |
tput bit. The design engineer was supposed to make that signal do something useful, like load the PC with some address.' |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
there are not so many original things in the field. |
| 18:16 |
asciilifeform |
this, i dare say, was one. |
| 18:17 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1412957 << my reading of porsche for the 60s generation was a certain professional young man's (or well-heeled dilettante's) europhilic desire for post-war rennsport purity. the 90s/00s generation came to fetishise this, detaching it from reality, and in the process adding dildos of every unspeakable sort to the ak that was. in this sense, casascius coins are a necessary |
| 18:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2016 04:23:22; mircea_popescu: phf no, it's the porsche for a new generation. tho i'm unsure whether anyone here understands or cares to think about what those things ~are~. |
| 18:17 |
pete_dushenski |
traction for those more interested in what their peers ~think~ they do than what they actually do. |
| 18:17 |
asciilifeform |
i reinvented a gnarly variant of this as a student. |
| 18:17 |
asciilifeform |
(bit-serial cpu) |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://tinymicros.com/mediawiki/images/e/ec/MC14500B_Handbook.pdf << re: above, scan of the b00k |
| 18:18 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: what's the big deal about being original ? that's not the talk to someone visiting a hotel. 'this living out of a suitcase thing is really most splendid, why doesn't everyone do this?' |
| 18:18 |
asciilifeform |
^ not mine, rather the earlier linked |
| 18:19 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: there is idiot-original and there is original. |
| 18:19 |
asciilifeform |
the pattern in which a dog vomit lands is not the same as a theorem. |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
bit-serial cpu is meaningfully and interestingly unlike anything that came before (or, afaik, after.) |
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| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
and is potentially a foundation for sane computing. |
| 18:21 |
asciilifeform |
(esp. in... trit-serial variant.) |
| 18:22 |
asciilifeform |
very amenable to exotic logical elements (e.g., optical, or spin) |
| 18:23 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: for at least the next decade, i'll have to take your word on this |
| 18:23 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1412987 << o.O |
| 18:23 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2016 04:46:10; mircea_popescu: fact of the matter is, when it comes to technology we're all bums. nobody can make a fucking car he'd want to drive. |
| 18:23 |
pete_dushenski |
!s morgan 3-wheeler |
| 18:23 |
assbot |
2 results for 'morgan 3-wheeler' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=morgan+3-wheeler |
| 18:24 |
* |
pete_dushenski hasn't tried to make personally, admittedly |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
i can't even picture such a thing |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
as a car that i'd want to drive. |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
it is like 'stake i want to sit on' |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
how about none. |
| 18:25 |
pete_dushenski |
now you're confusing 'commute i'd want to drive' with 'car i'd want to drive' |
| 18:25 |
pete_dushenski |
these are not the same thing |
| 18:25 |
asciilifeform |
if not for commute, why would i drive ? |
| 18:26 |
pete_dushenski |
there is no such thing as a pleasant commute. it's for slaves and sucks commensurately. as it should. |
| 18:26 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 18:26 |
asciilifeform |
but why would a free man, other than perhaps one who enjoys the racetrack, drive ? |
| 18:26 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: drive to travel (ie. road trip), drive for sport (ie. track) |
| 18:26 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu for instance, doesn't |
| 18:27 |
asciilifeform |
the best car is a dirigible. |
| 18:27 |
kakobrekla |
care to elaborate to us noobs how is 'bitserial' better than 'multibit'? |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: you can pick your word width ! |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
5 if you like. 17. 65537. |
| 18:28 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: say you want to pop up to montreal for the week, so you rent something fast, enjoy yourself with pet. road trip chats are quite unlike anything else. |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
airplane. cabs. |
| 18:29 |
pete_dushenski |
airplanes come with tsa. cabs come with stinky arabs. |
| 18:29 |
pete_dushenski |
neither is any sort of freedom. |
| 18:31 |
pete_dushenski |
and wtf a 10 hour cab ride would cost a grand+. each way. you can fly to amsterdam for that. or rent porsche from rental company for drive. |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
wai why would i ten hour cab. |
| 18:31 |
asciilifeform |
that is what airplane is for ? |
| 18:32 |
pete_dushenski |
this is fantasy trip to montreal, recall. you said cab man, not me. |
| 18:32 |
asciilifeform |
and what to do with porsche ? it goes at same speed as toyota in traffic. |
| 18:32 |
asciilifeform |
take it to the desert ? |
| 18:33 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: i meant, airplane to it, and the cab inside. |
| 18:33 |
pete_dushenski |
well, don't drive in traffic. take scenic route. that's the whole point of car. the scenery. as well as the ability to stop here for lunch and there for coffee and over there for an ice cream, etc. |
| 18:34 |
pete_dushenski |
too aristocratic for you ? not 'efficient' enough ? |
| 18:34 |
pete_dushenski |
then take plane. no one will stop you. |
| 18:35 |
pete_dushenski |
and if you're going to take car to desert, make sure it's the utah salt flats https://talesfromthebatcoupedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/img_0573.jpg |
| 18:35 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1L7dm8h ) |
| 18:37 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: nothing aristocratic about driving own machine imho |
| 18:37 |
asciilifeform |
but i have nfi, i'm not an aristocrat |
| 18:39 |
pete_dushenski |
there's everything aristocratic about owning the means of production and transportation. why do you think 'car sharing' and 'sharing economy' are so in vogue with the impoverished masters degree set ? |
| 18:40 |
pete_dushenski |
hell, even owning your own hdd/sdd is becoming a Big Deal. |
| 18:43 |
asciilifeform |
eh its just elementary chumpatronics. |
| 18:43 |
asciilifeform |
imbeciles conned into pseudo-'cheaper' |
| 18:43 |
asciilifeform |
it is not because anyone literally cannot afford hdd |
| 18:44 |
asciilifeform |
and pretty much anyone in usa can afford an old car (they start at a few hundy) |
| 18:44 |
jurov |
so where's the difference? |
| 18:44 |
asciilifeform |
between what? |
| 18:45 |
jurov |
are you sayind driving own car and driving own hdd is different or it is not or? |
| 18:45 |
asciilifeform |
not really similar other than in cost |
| 18:45 |
jurov |
and how so? |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
driving yourself, on public streets, is still rather like 'cloud storage' |
| 18:46 |
asciilifeform |
the equivalent of 'your own hdd' transportation-wise would be, perhaps, a chopper. |
| 18:47 |
jurov |
you're seeing it with completely different angle |
| 18:48 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform: that's an apt analogy in that both car and hdd are superficially affordable, but not practically. old car costs hundreds if not thousands in unexpected maintenance EVERY YEAR. hdd costs time, space, troubleshooting, etcetc. a car you own outright (ie. no debt payments), like a desktop you own outright (ie. no winbloze avec nsa) are exceedingly high-end appointments. neither is 'accessible' in any way. |
| 18:50 |
asciilifeform |
i dun see it re: the desktop. |
| 18:50 |
asciilifeform |
it costs precious little. |
| 18:50 |
asciilifeform |
(unless you're a jungle man in which case it costs infinity.) |
| 18:50 |
* |
asciilifeform bbl. |
| 18:54 |
pete_dushenski |
if you're not making $100k++ per annum and cannot afford extra rooms in house or apartment to enjoy as 'office', then yes, a jungle man is you. in which case, you're using a phablet primarily and a dusty laptop on rare occasions when you need to print a document. the only exception being, perhaps, g4amerz. |
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| 19:07 |
shinohai |
;;ticker --market all |
| 19:07 |
gribble |
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| 19:08 |
mircea_popescu |
in other aristocratit news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/18454d5c897e2a6b1577e6a12fb3ff84/tumblr_msnpp8XWZE1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg |
| 19:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1T2BCvs ) |
| 19:11 |
shinohai |
dat ass |
| 19:20 |
mircea_popescu |
and in random lolz, http://40.media.tumblr.com/80423faa520b0d991f20f4d1cb27c85a/tumblr_nynpobUaCU1sxjutro9_1280.jpg |
| 19:20 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1WEUT3O ) |
| 19:22 |
pete_dushenski |
wonder what they actually got |
| 19:24 |
shinohai |
Well he obviously got cucked! xD |
| 19:24 |
pete_dushenski |
or a legal slave ;) |
| 19:27 |
shinohai |
lol |
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| 19:49 |
pete_dushenski |
good evening sir mod6 |
| 19:49 |
mod6 |
Hi pete_dushenski |
| 19:49 |
mod6 |
Saw your later tell, thanks. |
| 19:50 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: that 1 bit chip was interesting |
| 19:51 |
mod6 |
how's everyone doing tonight? |
| 19:52 |
pete_dushenski |
wondering where the day went :) |
| 19:52 |
mod6 |
me too, busy as f. but im out of the woods on this work thing i think. |
| 19:56 |
mod6 |
its so boring |
| 19:57 |
mod6 |
i was lookin at tinyscheme stuff. trying to wrap my mind around stuff. |
| 19:58 |
mod6 |
like there's this thing called 'guile' that'll let you issue system commands and such... |
| 19:58 |
mod6 |
i think im like, getting lost in all the different dialects of lisp. |
| 19:59 |
pete_dushenski |
lol |
| 19:59 |
pete_dushenski |
ima bbl |
| 20:00 |
mod6 |
i was trying to do (system "ls") or whatever with tinyscheme, but i must be doin something wrong |
| 20:02 |
mod6 |
i guess it just says "unbound variable: system" but it seems to be in the docs under extentions. *shrug* |
| 20:02 |
mod6 |
more reading i guess. |
| 20:02 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: 'guile' is another scheme interpreter. |
| 20:03 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: there is no 'system' in our tinyscheme. |
| 20:03 |
asciilifeform |
(can add it, or anything, for that matter, if we need to) |
| 20:06 |
mod6 |
ah, werd. ok. |
| 20:06 |
mod6 |
(quit) works lol |
| 20:07 |
mod6 |
once i do some more reading im going to attempt to read a file. |
| 20:16 |
asciilifeform |
neato mod6. what are you studying from ? |
| 20:17 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2016#1413322 << l0l pete_dushenski, 100k usd is real money where you live ? |
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| 20:17 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2016 23:54:45; pete_dushenski: if you're not making $100k++ per annum and cannot afford extra rooms in house or apartment to enjoy as 'office', then yes, a jungle man is you. in which case, you're using a phablet primarily and a dusty laptop on rare occasions when you need to print a document. the only exception being, perhaps, g4amerz. |
| 20:18 |
asciilifeform |
a number of folks don't seem to grasp that financial and cultural poverty are quite separate things. visit usa, the land of countless millionaires who have never opened a book, and hobos with half a ph.d. in mathematics. |
| 20:20 |
mod6 |
asciilifeform: sicp |
| 20:20 |
mod6 |
and the tinyscheme docs |
| 20:21 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.scheme.com/tspl4 << another pretty good source. |
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| 20:21 |
assbot |
The Scheme Programming Language, 4th Edition ... ( http://bit.ly/1L7qt9t ) |
| 20:21 |
mod6 |
seems like we'll have to write a lot of our own procedure libs. which is maybe a good thing i guess. |
| 20:21 |
asciilifeform |
(available in dead tree, but link has plain text.) |
| 20:21 |
mod6 |
ah, thanks sir. |
| 20:21 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: aha. (though with a small modification, ts will run 'slib', a well-known library) |
| 20:22 |
asciilifeform |
but scheme is quite a pleasant language to bootstrap from the ground. |
| 20:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87590 @ 0.00057231 = 50.1286 BTC [-] |
| 20:39 |
kakobrekla |
2016 fashion ; http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-NEW-AV-4-Camel-Toe-Realistic-Fake-Vigina-Underwear-Artificial-vagina-Male-Masturbator/1932348346.html |
| 20:39 |
assbot |
[ Av 4 ] Camel палец на ноге реалистичные поддельные Vigina нижнее белье искусственный влагалище вилочная часть Masturbator купить на AliExpress ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTQ4BM ) |
| 20:43 |
BingoBoingo |
My the things that get engineered these days. |
| 20:43 |
BingoBoingo |
In other news people are catching on https://archive.is/KoUdl |
| 20:43 |
assbot |
A Few Thoughts On Longform, Inspired By The Current Debate Over Its Significance And Necessity In Our Fast-Changing Media Landscape - The Awl ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTQCre ) |
| 20:48 |
asciilifeform |
kakobrekla: what even is this |
| 20:49 |
asciilifeform |
inverted 'strap-on' ?! |
| 20:49 |
kakobrekla |
camel toe for everyone! |
| 20:50 |
kakobrekla |
supposed to be a fashion thing. |
| 20:51 |
mod6 |
haha |
| 20:59 |
mircea_popescu |
not to be bested by kako, http://40.media.tumblr.com/a97590604ed5c32535b01684ab531cf5/tumblr_nsamq0Z0721uc64sgo7_1280.jpg |
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| 20:59 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1PTSwIv ) |
| 21:00 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo what the fuck is that retarded nonsense. |
| 21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
the collected "profession" of "journalist" can't if working together think a thousand words ahead. |
| 21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
their opinion on stuff like trilema is about as welcome as the housewife's thoughts on stage makeup. |
| 21:10 |
mod6 |
my eyes |
| 21:16 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: It's their reaction to some derpy sports story about career of guy who sportsballed and then became a rape-cop who is now in prison. Derps published the story now other derps are trying to indict the entire concept of long form over the story. |
| 21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah |
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| 21:45 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2016#1413362 << sooo apparently this edition is EVIL |
| 21:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-02-2016 01:21:21; asciilifeform: http://www.scheme.com/tspl4 << another pretty good source. |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
i strongly disrecommend it. |
| 21:46 |
mod6 |
whats the deal in there? |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
r6rs heresies (motherfucking square brackets!) |
| 21:46 |
mod6 |
ah |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
straight to the stove with it. |
| 21:47 |
BingoBoingo |
r5rs 4lyf |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
^ |
| 21:47 |
mod6 |
oh like "(let ([if #f])" |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
the sheer rot. |
| 21:47 |
mod6 |
thanks for mentioning |
| 21:48 |
BingoBoingo |
My reading of the history is r6rs was a coup attempt to turn scheme into a sort of python or perl with too much built in shit |
| 21:48 |
asciilifeform |
just remember boyzngurls, syntactic sugar leads to cancer of the semicolon! |
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| 22:13 |
ben_vulpes |
cancer of the semilollin |
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| 22:42 |
asciilifeform |
http://i.imgur.com/hr5Nupf.png << vintage |
| 22:42 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/20ROvaA ) |
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| 23:32 |
BingoBoingo |
Financial aid with MAXIMUM GPA criteria, welcome to Obama's reddimurica https://archive.is/1OnHd |
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| 23:32 |
assbot |
Spread of emergency aid and microgrants show strong results ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7sTlg ) |
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| 23:50 |
phf |
mod6: you can also just read r5rs directly http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/ftpdir/scheme-reports/r5rs.ps |
| 23:51 |
mod6 |
thanks phf |
| 23:51 |
phf |
it's basically a self contained, and very readable spec of the language |
| 23:53 |
phf |
sicp is more of a "all you need to know about computation as a thing" book, rather then specifically a way to learn scheme. i know very few people who actually got through it on their own |
| 23:56 |
deedbot- |
[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.50000000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b81 |
| 23:57 |
mod6 |
yeah, i've figured that from what i've seen thus far in sicp. which is alright. |
| 23:57 |
mod6 |
some good examples of stuff in there. |
| 23:57 |
mod6 |
i'll check out the ps tho |