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00:00 BingoBoingo Looks very cool, but I lack tools to give quality analysis
00:00 asciilifeform thing doesn't appear to need tools
00:00 asciilifeform 2-sided pcbs, labeled ics
00:00 mircea_popescu in unrelated news, telecentro sa might be the shittiest isp the world has ever seen.
00:00 asciilifeform how come
00:01 mircea_popescu line dies multiple times a day, every day sorta thing
00:01 asciilifeform ick
00:01 asciilifeform fiber?
00:02 mircea_popescu nah, cable.
00:02 asciilifeform ew
00:02 * asciilifeform miser on many things but not isp
00:03 BingoBoingo In other news qntra content is back
00:03 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> thing doesn't appear to need tools << Requires tools in wetware
00:03 asciilifeform congrats BingoBoingo
00:05 BingoBoingo Comments from the last ~week are missing, but..
00:06 asciilifeform https://www.photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4044237//# << perma-photo of gnc-9-3
00:06 asciilifeform http://forum.qrz.ru/7-voennoe-radio-snova-v-efire/33679-pomogite-opoznat-izdelie-6.html#post651830 << previous generation of same machine, apparently
00:06 assbot Помогите опознать изделие - Страница 6 ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1i9Yk )
00:12 trinque feeds thinger revived.
00:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35150 @ 0.00049565 = 17.4221 BTC [-] {2}
00:15 asciilifeform http://photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4044223/96752458/#mainImageLink << moar of previous subj
00:15 assbot Фото - ГНЦ-8/2В ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5pVjF )
00:27 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350133 << ok looks like 195* is the old (dead) dulap
00:27 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 03:41:28; mod6: is that one Mr. P.'s node? i seem to remember maybe that one was stopped or something? asciilifeform /just/ updated Zoolag and Bucephalus
00:28 asciilifeform plz use one of the live nodez
00:28 asciilifeform new dulap is 46.166.165.30
00:29 asciilifeform and is quite likely the liveliest of the nodez presently
00:29 asciilifeform (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly)
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00:30 * trinque lets the new deedbot node have a taste
00:32 asciilifeform my other two:
00:33 asciilifeform 216.15.33.203 --- bucephalus
00:33 asciilifeform 173.73.235.152 --- zoolag
00:33 asciilifeform all 3 are fully synced and running same thing
00:33 asciilifeform and have very reasonable pipes
00:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.0004963 = 27.2469 BTC [+] {2}
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01:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00048933 = 4.8444 BTC [-] {2}
01:29 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350010 << welcome home :)
01:29 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 01:20:33; mircea_popescu: trhis sounds like home.
01:36 BingoBoingo war https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/capacity-increases https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xr8ql/capacity_increases_for_the_bitcoin_system_bitcoin/
01:36 assbot Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system -- Bitcoin Core ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5xVRH )
01:36 assbot Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system -- Bitcoin Core : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5xVRL )
01:37 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
01:37 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 439.06, vol: 12642.92887597 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 437.9, vol: 7996.32153 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 438.76, vol: 28963.35589242 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 0.34339395 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 451.007032, vol: 102113.12970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 437.99, vol: 173.05762018 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 436.308978, vol: 137.95867145 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
01:37 BingoBoingo ;;more
01:37 gribble 446.962634434
01:37 ben_vulpes interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work
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01:38 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349727 << oh ffs
01:38 assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 22:32:49; asciilifeform: once mod6 and ben_vulpes shrinkwrap a buildroot, gcc, et al. this will be possible
01:43 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349743 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349744 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349873 << log grepping is becoming its own skill. i recently lost five minutes looking for "month" instead of "mos."
01:43 assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 22:35:29; *: asciilifeform digs
01:43 assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 22:35:40; *: mircea_popescu digs as well
01:43 assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 23:38:07; mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ?
01:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3243 @ 0.00048678 = 1.5786 BTC [-]
01:57 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-12-2015#1345454 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350181 << per month? year? flat?
01:57 assbot Logged on 17-12-2015 15:01:36; mircea_popescu: this will also add a 0.7-.8 expense on the s.nsa books, but hey, whatchagonnado.
01:57 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 05:29:33; asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly)
02:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00048678 = 4.2593 BTC [-]
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02:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00048674 = 11.2924 BTC [-] {2}
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02:37 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349575 << lulzy thread
02:37 assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 19:53:23; jurov: https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/boring-crypto/48qa1kWignU/o8GGp2K1DAAJ << where djb secretly desires ada
02:37 punkman "Not to be "that guy", but as cool as it is to ponder doing this in some bright, shiny language like Rust or ML, Ada exists for a reason.  There's even an open source compiler (Gnat) that can already generate code that can link with C/C++/etc code bases.  Work would need to go into streamlining the run time overhead for this use case, but how much compared to maintaining some C compiler
02:37 punkman fork?"
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03:07 punkman http://firstwefeast.com/eat/confessions-of-a-white-sushi-chef/
03:07 assbot Confessions of a White Sushi Chef | First We Feast ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1x6cZ )
03:14 punkman "People call themselves a sushi chef after two to four years of making sushi, or going from restaurant to restaurant instead of taking up an apprenticeship. That doesn’t fly in my book. When a white sushi chef says, “I would work there, but it was too demanding,” then I say you are definitely too weak and we are not cut from the same cloth."
03:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10667 @ 0.00048708 = 5.1957 BTC [+]
03:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00048711 = 7.6476 BTC [+] {2}
03:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24582 @ 0.00048722 = 11.9768 BTC [+] {2}
03:31 punkman https://rpw.sh/blog/2015/12/21/the-backdoored-backdoor/
03:31 assbot Some analysis of the backdoored backdoor | .:rpw:. ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1z6BR )
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03:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27281 @ 0.00049045 = 13.38 BTC [+] {4}
03:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25870 @ 0.00048668 = 12.5904 BTC [-]
04:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00049155 = 8.6759 BTC [+] {2}
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04:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35460 @ 0.00049269 = 17.4708 BTC [+] {2}
04:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15726 @ 0.00049638 = 7.8061 BTC [+] {2}
04:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00049648 = 9.7558 BTC [+]
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05:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00049648 = 13.9511 BTC [+]
05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.0004884 = 20.4884 BTC [-] {5}
05:37 BingoBoingo trinque: Are you sure feed is back on?
05:37 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/12/cmu-tor-attack-implicated-in-mannion-arrest/
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05:37 assbot CMU Tor Attack Implicated In Mannion Arrest | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/22mPsLo )
05:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00049648 = 7.9933 BTC [+] {2}
05:42 BingoBoingo punkman: Related https://archive.is/SnvXJ
05:42 assbot Objective Cis Het White Male - Why I NEVER Tip White Waiters ... ( http://bit.ly/22mQqau )
05:44 punkman BingoBoingo: but does he have black friends?
05:44 BingoBoingo Of course he doesn't
05:47 punkman http://sans-fedora.tumblr.com/post/131425088491/how-to-be-a-cis-het-white-male-intersectional
05:47 assbot Objective Cis Het White Male - How to be a Cis Het White Male Intersectional... ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJ2w46 )
05:49 punkman "The patriarchy expects me to be a big burly man to soak up all the privilege I can. However, I find that the thinner you are as a male, the more willing people are to interact with you because you are not so threatening. As I get thinner, the patriarchy has a harder time keeping a hold on me because I can slip through its fingers more easily."
05:49 punkman not bad
05:51 BingoBoingo Ah so he's either fat or manorexic to top it all off
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06:19 deedbot- [Qntra] Payment Card Industry Clings To SSLv3 And TLS 1.0 For Two More Years - http://qntra.net/2015/12/payment-card-industry-clings-to-sslv3-and-tls-1-0-for-two-more-years/
06:19 BingoBoingo Ah, there it is, ty trinque
06:21 davout from where i am i still can't see qntra
06:22 davout DNS resolution doesn't seem to work
06:25 BingoBoingo I have no idea the dark magic mircea_popescu worked in the routing.
06:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00049346 = 11.4976 BTC [-] {2}
06:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2695 @ 0.00049301 = 1.3287 BTC [-]
06:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00049648 = 8.316 BTC [+]
06:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34832 @ 0.0004868 = 16.9562 BTC [-] {5}
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07:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00049647 = 7.6456 BTC [+] {2}
07:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12869 @ 0.00048516 = 6.2435 BTC [-]
07:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00048496 = 15.4217 BTC [-] {5}
07:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0004879 = 6.1475 BTC [+]
07:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20112 @ 0.00049648 = 9.9852 BTC [+]
07:47 mircea_popescu that's just fucking dumb. privilege is being thin, as a male.
07:52 BingoBoingo Seriously swolepression is real
07:55 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes per month.
07:59 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> war <<< "There will not be any hardfork for at least the next ~year." <<< mno. no war, sheepish surrender. we find these terms acceptable, to quote !churchill.
08:00 mircea_popescu "Lightning will allow for almost all of the security, features, and decentralization of Bitcoin transactions while drastically reducing the number of on-blockchain transactions that each individual will need to perform. This is expected to be the real eventual solution to scaling."
08:01 mircea_popescu hurr durr. i'm sure it will be the eventual solution to "scaling", for any value of scaling = http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349366
08:01 assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 15:29:29; mircea_popescu: "hands off our cattle!"
08:01 BingoBoingo lowercase war, not War
08:01 mircea_popescu nevertheless, on one hand fair is fair and on the other hand not only is it not our cattle, we don't fucking want to herd cattle in the first place. so...
08:01 mircea_popescu usg found its level.
08:01 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work <<< quite.
08:02 mircea_popescu i suppose it's based on how they judge their ability to comprehend wtf alf did. "this is crazy" "this is batshit insane" "i have no idea wtf this even is" and perhaps other layers.
08:04 mircea_popescu lol theymos got -39 reddit votes. clearly teh system wurx.
08:06 mircea_popescu <davout> DNS resolution doesn't seem to work << what do you see ?
08:07 mircea_popescu "Most people would assume I am a walking oxymoron. At least, they would assume the latter part of that word. However, I am here today to give you a glimpse of how it is possible to be a cissexual heterosexual white male intersectional feminist and how I’m living proof.
08:07 mircea_popescu Many think that Intersectional Feminism is at odds with cis het white men. This stems from the fact"
08:07 mircea_popescu ahahahaha
08:07 mircea_popescu THAT is the problem. idiot imagines what sane people will choke on is the notion that she's a dumbass feminist.
08:08 mircea_popescu no, that's not the issue. the issue is that a dumbass feminist who ate enough so you can't distinguish her wasp bites from man boobs imagines herself a "homosexual male".
08:08 mircea_popescu you ain't homosexual or a male, sweetie. you're just a girl with too much loose change in her brainbox.
08:08 * BingoBoingo still waiting for the levorotary/dexrotary gender crISIS
08:09 davout mircea_popescu: now it works, also nice DNS servers, ten points to gryffyndor
08:09 mircea_popescu :)
08:10 mircea_popescu is gryffyndor good ?
08:10 mircea_popescu and could it be lyf yn whor ?
08:10 BingoBoingo I think they are the goody too shoed bitch ones
08:10 davout the sky's the limit
08:11 * BingoBoingo forgets which one stomped colons all day
08:11 mircea_popescu that's what they said back at camp when we were doing the piss up tree competition.
08:11 BingoBoingo Gotta piss up tree or else gets on shoes
08:11 mircea_popescu (btw, is this known universally or just ro junior high amusement ? buncha kids get around tree, see who pisses on it the highest ?)
08:12 mircea_popescu "Why I NEVER Tip White Waiters If you want to teach someone something, it is usually best to do it over and over."\
08:13 BingoBoingo universal
08:13 mircea_popescu bahwhahahahaha. random douche who thinks "waiters" = the douches just like him moving around tgi tuesdays is going to TEACH something, by repeating it over and over. an' thart something ain't gonna be "this fat poor sucker's also a jerk". it's gonna be something else. because he's the not so little train engine that can!
08:15 mircea_popescu here's a rough rule of thumb : if the guy bringing you your donut is making below minimum wage, he is BY DEFINITION of the terms "minimum wage" and "waiter" NOT a waiter. because being a waiter IS A PROFESSION, just like being a computer engineer or a driver. meanwhile minimum wage is reserved for UNSKILLED!!! labour. like webstack developers and singer-songwriter-tablewaiters.
08:17 mircea_popescu and this is kinda also what powers the "uber revolution" : if you're willing to go from drivers to unskilled labour, you may "save" a little change off your ride and uber can make a killing.
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08:18 mircea_popescu Update: Shortly after reading my post, Willem Pinckaers pointed out that the reseed_system_prng function sets the global variable system_prng_bufpos to 32. This means that after the first invocation of this function, the for loop right after the reseed call in system_prng_gen_block never executes. Hence, the ANSI X9.31 PRNG code is completely non-functional.
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08:18 mircea_popescu lol ok.
08:20 mircea_popescu "Apparently Juniper only realised this recently and not when they were issuing KB28205." yaya.
08:21 BingoBoingo http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/12/university_of_alabama_quietly.html
08:21 assbot University of Alabama quietly testing fraternity brothers for drugs | AL.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1J310gz )
08:22 mircea_popescu lol
08:22 BingoBoingo "There’s this one fraternity—really well-known on campus, attracted a lot of attention—that started getting drug-tested and it’s still talked about how this fraternity went from, like, a group of guys who functioned normally and held high position among the university and then they all just became ‘bartards’—that’s the term for people who eat Xanax bars. They all went from just, you know, regular college guys to ju
08:22 BingoBoingo st zombies, all doing Xanax because they couldn’t smoke pot and stuff so it was the only thing they could do."
08:25 mircea_popescu huh
08:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00049648 = 6.7025 BTC [+] {3}
08:27 BingoBoingo Just imagine. You take away all the drugs they can handle and they gotta resort to drugs they don't know wtf to do with.
08:28 mircea_popescu why the fuck would they take xanax in the first place.
08:29 BingoBoingo Because available and the rappers are doing it.
08:30 BingoBoingo Or mebbe to teach the Uni a lesson when the civil suits come because a bunch of frat bros were popping xanax and buttchugging vodka now that their weed is gone.
08:32 mod6 heh buttchugging
08:33 BingoBoingo Apparently its popular. I always thought it was a myth.
08:35 mircea_popescu no chance for psych medication to go the way of tobacco, is there ?
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08:35 mircea_popescu "oh, but it helps people. it calms my nerves!" was iirc the state-of-the-art in tobacco "critiquing" for about a century.
08:37 BingoBoingo Not really. And really benzos like Xanax are the "safer" tranquilizers.
08:37 BingoBoingo http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/moderation-in-moderation
08:37 assbot moderation in moderation ... ( http://bit.ly/1J31T8T )
08:39 BingoBoingo The benzodiazepine revolution has happened, and it's going to be a while before it can get stigma'd out like tobacco.
08:40 BingoBoingo If only because all the other tranquilizers like miltown and thalidomide are so much easier to pile on to. "Miltown, what kind of drug has bezoars as a side effect?"
08:41 mircea_popescu "the western world - a place so miserable teenage suicide is still the exception, but teenage cns depressant medication the rule"
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08:41 mircea_popescu anyone ever wondered what every kid being a reefer says about their country ?
08:42 mircea_popescu or is that something only the soviets would notice.
08:42 BingoBoingo I nearly forgot we linked earleir this classic on backdoor miltown getting real popular for a while http://www.theangrypharmacist.com/archives/2013/10/somabots-transform.html
08:42 assbot The Angry Pharmacist » Blog Archive » SOMABOTS, TRANSFORM! ... ( http://bit.ly/1J327N7 )
08:42 BingoBoingo Only the soviets would notice.
08:43 BingoBoingo Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now.
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08:44 mircea_popescu Meprobamate << amusingly, this was widely dispensed for... ulcer.
08:44 mircea_popescu back in the 80s.
08:45 BingoBoingo Well, yeah. Bezoar in stomach actually gets along well with ulcer
08:45 mircea_popescu lol
08:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15888 @ 0.00049654 = 7.889 BTC [+]
08:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30317 @ 0.00049164 = 14.905 BTC [-] {2}
09:02 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJKpqS2UYAAAA9i.jpg
09:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfBGtf )
09:03 BingoBoingo Wait who buttchugs beer. All that carbonation and foam...
09:03 punkman looks like cough syrup
09:03 shinohai Purple drank
09:10 BingoBoingo Oh, a kind of Trilema is back online
09:10 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/interacting-with-fiat-institutions-a-guide/
09:11 punkman http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/worlds-most-adorable-drug-kingpin-is-actually-the-daughter-of-texas-dea-head-honcho/
09:11 assbot World’s most ‘adorable drug kingpin’ is actually the daughter of Texas DEA head honcho ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfBZnT )
09:11 mircea_popescu hahaha
09:13 mircea_popescu o look at that, the dea's a fief.
09:13 mircea_popescu why "head honcho" and not the more common "czar" ?
09:13 mircea_popescu or is that only-when-good-things.
09:17 BingoBoingo czars are appointees. Honchos come up through the bottom.
09:18 punkman http://greenrushdaily.com/2015/12/11/american-cancer-society-officially-admits-chemotherapy-treatments-actually-increase-likelihood-second-cancer/
09:18 assbot Reports: radiation and chemo may cause cancer, cannabis may cure it ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfCdLJ )
09:18 mircea_popescu o is that how it works.
09:19 mircea_popescu http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12140559/error-with-htaccess-and-mod-rewrite <<< o lord have mercy.
09:19 assbot php - Error with .htaccess and mod_rewrite - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfCePN )
09:19 BingoBoingo Yeah. Czars go to Yale and Honchos either come from A&M or community college
09:19 mircea_popescu they changed how shit works because why not ?
09:19 punkman I always wonder how people end up with that kind of title mismatch
09:22 punkman mircea_popescu: wow that's retarded
09:22 mircea_popescu no shit.
09:22 mircea_popescu revolutionarizing!
09:27 liquidassets Engaging meatwot fun
09:27 mircea_popescu omfg and 5mb of error log.
09:29 * mircea_popescu replaces E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE & ~E_DEPRECATED & ~E_STRICT that apparently GETS IGNORED ANYWAY with E_ERROR and fu.
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09:29 mircea_popescu jesus php is a pos.
09:38 BingoBoingo that face https://i.imgur.com/PdODFrP.jpg
09:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1O6oXDN )
09:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00049654 = 3.1779 BTC [+]
09:40 mircea_popescu motherfucker it will not stop.
09:40 mircea_popescu so i edited fucking php ini, restarted the whole shebang, it STILL spits its dumbass warnings and notices omfg.
09:40 mircea_popescu WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT "STRICT STANDARDS" AND "DEPRECATED" AND ALL YOUR STUPID SHIT! jesus!
09:43 BingoBoingo oh qntra has its style sheet back http://trilema.com/2014/its-not-the-sauce-its-the-poultry-and-other-metamathematical-considerations/
09:48 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350199 << i don't see any overlap
09:48 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 06:37:41; ben_vulpes: interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work
09:50 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350233 << the 'research subpoenaed from cmu' cover is lulzy
09:50 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 10:37:14; BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/12/cmu-tor-attack-implicated-in-mannion-arrest/
09:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350294 << i've used it 5x so far. once it was a fraud (see logz) and got refund. the other 4, it was dour iranian drivers every bit as good as a 'normal' cabbie. which brings us to the very real 'fat' that there was to be trimmed from cab fare in usa: amortized cost of medallion passed to the customer, and other idiocies that uber nuked
09:52 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:17:24; mircea_popescu: and this is kinda also what powers the "uber revolution" : if you're willing to go from drivers to unskilled labour, you may "save" a little change off your ride and uber can make a killing.
09:53 asciilifeform ('uber' is about 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of a 'normal' cab in wash dc region)
09:53 mircea_popescu aha.
09:53 mircea_popescu this is the path to failure : first, professionals want to do less work for the same money ; then, parasites move in to do the same work, for less money. and the lemon cycle persists.
09:54 asciilifeform in english lands it was called 'scab'
09:54 mircea_popescu the fundamental argentinian-ness of the human mind, "oh, ok, this is what i get paid, now how could i move down what i gottaq do for it ?" really needs the british imperial "fuck you, you don't eat" as typified by lord newton.
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09:55 mircea_popescu but none of this changes the fact that waiter is an actual profession.
09:55 asciilifeform surely
09:55 punkman relevant http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/uber-legal-in-nsw-taxi-owners-to-be-compensated/story-fni0cx12-1227656507684
09:55 assbot No Cookies | dailytelegraph.com.au ... ( http://bit.ly/1PihIYy )
09:55 mircea_popescu so a bunch of idiot americans band together, agree to not learn, and expect teacher to "throw the curve".
09:55 mircea_popescu fine. so ? learning's still learning, whether he does or doesn't.
09:57 mircea_popescu so php has a "ignore repeated location / type of error" dual switch. which inexplicably comes NOT THROWN. because yeah, this is totally logical, if someone doesn't care about one instance you gotta provide them with infinity instances of the same thing. idiots.
09:57 mircea_popescu so then you throw the switch and watch in amazement as... nothing happens.
09:57 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise
09:57 mircea_popescu it looks like trilema's going to get moved off php at this rate.
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09:57 asciilifeform sop in open sores
09:58 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350295 << aaaand Official Truth proclaims that the thing was not a usg op getting burned. aha, who wants to buy bridge ?
09:58 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:18:03; mircea_popescu: Update: Shortly after reading my post, Willem Pinckaers pointed out that the reseed_system_prng function sets the global variable system_prng_bufpos to 32. This means that after the first invocation of this function, the for loop right after the reseed call in system_prng_gen_block never executes. Hence, the ANSI X9.31 PRNG code is completely non-functional.
09:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350311 << tobacco went the way of tobacco to make room for new dopez
09:59 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:35:38; mircea_popescu: no chance for psych medication to go the way of tobacco, is there ?
09:59 asciilifeform and for no other reason
10:00 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350318 << they don't wait until puberty to start'em on dope, either
10:00 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:41:35; mircea_popescu: "the western world - a place so miserable teenage suicide is still the exception, but teenage cns depressant medication the rule"
10:01 asciilifeform see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1311331
10:01 assbot Logged on 29-10-2015 21:25:28; ascii_field: they do 5 y.o. and possibly below, now
10:03 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350324 << dope is a very handy answer to a terminally ill society
10:03 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:43:50; BingoBoingo: Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now.
10:04 asciilifeform su never invented a good dope for ambulatory (outpatient) zombiefication
10:04 asciilifeform (other than old-fashioned booze)
10:05 asciilifeform most of the mega-breakthroughs in this field were in 1980s usa.
10:05 * mircea_popescu both turned off error logging altogether as well as specified they should be saved in /dev/null
10:05 mircea_popescu with baited breath i await to discover this also does nothing
10:05 asciilifeform (much earlier us pharma triumphs, e.g., diazepam, did catch on - to a degree - in su, but not mega-hits)
10:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19259 @ 0.00049654 = 9.5629 BTC [+]
10:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00049655 = 12.6869 BTC [+] {2}
10:17 mircea_popescu holy shit, turning off error reporting altogehter took!
10:17 mircea_popescu hey, congrats dumbasses, pushing the attentionwhoring angle got +1 people to ignore you altogether. how's that for epic success!
10:19 liquidassets GOOD MORNING ASSETERS 11 https://youtu.be/_Ahc-oEFQ7k
10:19 assbot NOFX - Dinosaurs will die (Lyrics) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pikzk9 )
10:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00049667 = 5.811 BTC [+] {3}
10:32 mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://dpaste.com/3PXSBHX
10:32 assbot dpaste: 3PXSBHX ... ( http://bit.ly/1QVQMj7 )
10:32 gribble The operation succeeded.
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10:54 liquidassets Pay attention to your weaknesses long enough and they'll turn into your greatest strengths.
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11:28 liquidassets ~TMSR Made Me
11:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54996 @ 0.00049727 = 27.3479 BTC [+] {5}
11:35 trinque calm down, timmy.
11:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19986 @ 0.00049814 = 9.9558 BTC [+] {2}
11:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00049815 = 18.033 BTC [+]
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00049905 = 14.0233 BTC [+] {3}
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12:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00049786 = 7.6422 BTC [-] {2}
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12:49 shinohai !up ascii_field
13:01 ascii_field http://blog.llvm.org/2013/04/status-of-c11-migrator.html << possible useful tool for boost removal in trb
13:01 assbot LLVM Project Blog: Status of the C++11 Migrator ... ( http://bit.ly/22nXhkd )
13:01 ascii_field (ast munger)
13:05 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://habrahabr.ru/post/273249 << mega-lulz re: Run Moar Winblowz. 'how to sneak into president's villa at 5am'
13:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Yz9fma )
13:05 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:09 ascii_field ^ summary: random bozo pops a box, turns out to contain src for underwater alarm system at mega-palace, full of backdoorz
13:09 ascii_field if this is a sham, it is a quality sham.
13:14 ascii_field http://geektimes.ru/post/268128 << baikal electronics corp. claims $60 mips cpu to compete with 'elbrus' (which i have been unable to buy at any price on this side of the ocean)
13:14 assbot Массовое производство первого российского процессора Baikal-T1 запустят в начале 2016 года / Geektimes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Yzaodx )
13:16 ascii_field lastly in re nyoooooz,
13:17 ascii_field http://habrahabr.ru/company/ua-hosting/blog/273137 >> while idiot west demolishes nuke plants, ru builds. and next to one - data centre promised to hold up to 10,000 full racks.
13:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/22nZufp )
13:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00050001 = 2.9001 BTC [+] {2}
13:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00050002 = 2.2001 BTC [+]
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13:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00050049 = 15.1648 BTC [+] {3}
14:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00049616 = 13.4211 BTC [-] {3}
14:09 jurov https://twitter.com/bendiken/status/679359002518626304 ultimate backdoor protection!
14:14 jurov new from mempool taming dept: actually the biggest memory bloat, hidden in various vector<char> operations is caused by mapRelay
14:15 jurov which purpose is still not 100% clear to me, seems an inventory what we're going to relay to whom
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00050012 = 5.8264 BTC [+]
14:31 mircea_popescu <ascii_field> http://geektimes.ru/post/268128 << baikal electronics corp. claims $60 mips cpu to compete with 'elbrus' (which i have been unable to buy at any price on this side of the ocean) << they don't practically exist, on either side of ocean. so far all signs point to "elaborate ru.gov self-scam"
14:31 assbot Массовое производство первого российского процессора Baikal-T1 запустят в начале 2016 года / Geektimes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Yzaodx )
14:32 mircea_popescu jurov who's ben diken ?
14:32 mircea_popescu kakobrekla there ?
14:32 jurov no idea
14:34 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW2RaY3WIAErW-v.png << this is actually very close to irl.
14:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfRdsP )
14:34 mircea_popescu incidentally i would LOVE to see maprelay excised entirely.
14:34 punkman does it do anything besides increasing attack surface?
14:35 mircea_popescu never made sense to anyone, that shit.
14:35 mircea_popescu punkman nope.
14:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00050012 = 2.5256 BTC [+]
14:35 punkman "elaborate ru.gov self-scam" or "good things for good people"?
14:35 mircea_popescu i doubt the thing actually works, atm, is all.
14:36 mircea_popescu if you recall the ever-so useful "quantum computer" that was going to do things just as long as you ... you know, let the specialists do it.
14:36 kakobrekla yes?
14:36 mircea_popescu exactly equivalent to "experiments" that only work in the kook's lab.
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14:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00049642 = 8.4888 BTC [-] {3}
14:57 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:57 ascii_field mircea_popescu: dwave corp.
14:57 mircea_popescu right
14:58 mircea_popescu in other news, "blocks" : 182731,
15:00 ascii_field jurov et al: mapRelay is used to rebroadcast tx, incl. wallet (own) tx
15:00 mircea_popescu 03:21:07 122106 19:58:23 182731 so 60625 / 881 or 68.8 blocks/min
15:00 ascii_field http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/ident?v=asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected&_i=RelayMessage
15:00 assbot Satoshi asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected identifier search: RelayMessage ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfTGn2 )
15:00 mircea_popescu ascii_field but it doesn't hjave to br.
15:00 mircea_popescu be*
15:01 ascii_field in the same sense that other garbage 'doesn't have to be'
15:01 ascii_field e.g. openssl
15:01 ascii_field but this is not a wart that can be snipped off without any serious work
15:02 ascii_field now the Advert* crud - yes
15:02 ascii_field (afaik it actually gets optimized out by gcc, even, as dead code)
15:03 mircea_popescu i know
15:03 mircea_popescu nevertheless...
15:04 ascii_field incidentally, i've concluded that 'boost' can be sawed out and replaced with a modicum of c++11ism relatively painlessly
15:04 jurov i am tentatively erasing it (together with vRelayExpiration) in JettisonMempool, so far no obvious problems
15:04 ascii_field jurov: neato
15:05 mircea_popescu both of these lines sound fab.
15:05 ascii_field how about the problem of this operation not actually reclaiming memory ?
15:05 ascii_field or was this resolved while i slept
15:05 mircea_popescu one saltspoon at a time.
15:05 jurov oh, also it finally does reclaim memory
15:05 mircea_popescu o.O
15:05 ascii_field oh?
15:05 jurov after this last step is done
15:05 mircea_popescu no wai.
15:06 * ascii_field looks forward to ml post
15:06 mircea_popescu jurov has broken into the republican piggybank, bought out dark markets!
15:08 jurov add this into JettisonMempool just before malloc_trim():
15:08 jurov CRITICAL_BLOCK(cs_mapRelay){
15:08 jurov vRelayExpiration.erase(vRelayExpiration.begin(),vRelayExpiration.end());
15:08 jurov mapRelay.erase(mapRelay.begin(),mapRelay.end()); }
15:09 ascii_field jurov: why would this deallocate tx ?
15:10 jurov the CDataStream contains serialized tx
15:10 jurov so in fact, a second mempool
15:10 ascii_field woah
15:11 ascii_field so do we see a return to baseline+300byte*blockheight heap size after the nuke ?
15:13 jurov yes, looks like it's very close now
15:13 ascii_field mighty spiffy
15:13 ascii_field this also means that fragging can be dealt with using 'stop&copy' aka semispace gc
15:13 ascii_field (deallocate all tx, while throwing them into a fresh mempool)
15:14 ascii_field the time to do this is, obviously, when a block comes
15:15 ascii_field (when a good portion of this work is being done anyway)
15:15 mircea_popescu aha.
15:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27329 @ 0.00049547 = 13.5407 BTC [-] {2}
15:20 ascii_field http://hackaday.com/2015/12/21/heres-the-reason-the-faas-drone-registration-system-doesnt-make-sense << usg lulz
15:20 assbot Here’s the Reason The FAA’s Drone Registration System Doesn’t Make Sense | Hackaday ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfVBbn )
15:22 mircea_popescu motherfucker. dig trilema.com @91.218.246.31 status: NOERROR; dig trilema.com @8.8.8.8 status: NOERROR ; dig trilema.com ? status: SERVFAIL
15:22 mircea_popescu fucking hell and who ever came up with this bullshit.
15:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29340 @ 0.00049871 = 14.6322 BTC [+] {3}
15:28 mod6 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-12-2015#1348988 << So I'm gonna be putting just the sha512 hashes of BDB/Boost/OpenSSL .tar.gz files in a manifest that will be added into 'V'.
15:28 assbot Logged on 20-12-2015 22:22:31; mod6: so just to be clear, so I'm not holding anything up here; hashes of the following tarballs in V: BDB, openssl, and boost.
15:28 mod6 !up ascii_field
15:29 mod6 should we place that file in the 'bitcoin' dir, or any thoughts on where this file should reside?
15:30 mircea_popescu mod6 could the default be that all dirs are made under whatever dir runs the rotor script ?
15:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31669 @ 0.00050065 = 15.8551 BTC [+] {2}
15:32 mod6 currently, what is required is that you execute the rotor+V+TEST2 script that I wrote, and then it'll create a 'rotor' dir in that present working directory. then you'll end up with like: rotor/TEST2/bitcoin/src/
15:32 mod6 Is that what you're asking?
15:33 mircea_popescu does it look for .wot there too ?
15:33 mod6 this Manifest we're talking about creating would need to fit somewhere in the directory structure of bitcoin itself, if it is to be 'v'-ified.
15:33 mod6 no, .wot can be wherever you want it to be.
15:33 mod6 well...
15:34 mod6 in the context of the script, it'd have to be altered in the script to say place the .wot in .../rotor so you'd have /.../rotor/.wot/
15:34 trinque seems like the contents of rotor.sh can easily be pasted into the bottom of the outermost script.
15:34 mircea_popescu no, it can't.
15:35 mod6 and the subsequent commands would just do something like `./v.pl p TEST2 vpatchnameforhead wd /.../rotor/.wot` or something.
15:35 mircea_popescu anyway, directory structure could use some fixing.
15:35 mircea_popescu my personal ideal would be that ALL directories involved in this without exception are spawned as subdirs of whatever current dir the script ran in.
15:36 mod6 the whole way that the 'orchestra' gets built, has to be that way for this minute. but certainly can change going forward.
15:36 mod6 it basically just grabs all of these different things and then pieces it together.
15:37 mircea_popescu aha
15:37 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> my personal ideal would be that ALL directories involved in this without exception are spawned as subdirs of whatever current dir the script ran in. << this makes sense. right now you end up with /.../rotor/ and ~/.wot, and ~/.seals iirc.
15:37 mod6 but this could change.
15:38 mod6 anyway my question to ascii_field, jurov, et. al. is: given we create a manifest, where should it live in the context of the bitcoin source tree itself
15:38 mod6 the rotor is out of the scope of that part.
15:39 mod6 this weekend I'm thinking that I can get that done, and droped into the ML & V, etc.
15:39 mod6 and probably can post the release vpatch to the ML also.
15:39 mod6 so those would be the last 2 things that would go into V itself.
15:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28944 @ 0.00049547 = 14.3409 BTC [-] {2}
15:40 mircea_popescu the manifest should live wherever the rotor.sh lives neh ?
15:40 mircea_popescu at least that's where i'd go looking for it
15:40 mod6 the interesting part about dropping in a manifest file is that i'll be off on its own as its own root and its own leaf since it'll have no decendents or antecedants.
15:41 mod6 but it'll also have to be grabbed by the release vpatch so it gets included.
15:41 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> the manifest should live wherever the rotor.sh lives neh ? << I would argue that all of these scripts would live outside of bitcoin source V tree.
15:41 mircea_popescu hm.
15:41 mircea_popescu wait. what ?!
15:43 trinque does not make sense to separate the build system from the thing being built. what other project does that?
15:44 mod6 hmm. well, ok.
15:44 mircea_popescu idea here is to a degree that V is a universal builder
15:44 mod6 I guess I can see it that way.
15:44 mircea_popescu then it'll have to some degree be separated from what it builds
15:44 mod6 We're a lot farther from release than I had thought then.
15:44 trinque V yes, I see V the version control system kinda being conflated with this builder making use of V
15:44 mod6 Because all of those scripts need to be re-written.
15:44 mircea_popescu mod6 but this manifest... wouldn't you say it's of the nature of the sigils ?
15:44 trinque V certainly is its own thing
15:45 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:45 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3ZP93FF.txt
15:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfWUXI )
15:45 ascii_field ;;later tell BingoBoingo (or anybody else who was awake last night) http://photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4044237/96752635/full_image << i found the datasheets for all the ics. most of'em are shift registers
15:45 assbot Фото - Без названия #9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfWT6k )
15:45 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:46 ascii_field so the thing was something like a su version of a stream cipherator
15:46 ascii_field using fuck knows what kind of scheme
15:46 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> mod6 but this manifest... wouldn't you say it's of the nature of the sigils ? << im not sure i understand this.
15:46 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski done and done.
15:47 mircea_popescu so about as useless as piss.
15:47 pete_dushenski :D
15:48 trinque mod6: do you want help with any of this? I am comfortable with my bash-fu.
15:48 trinque script as is works very well; I'm just offering some janitorial services.
15:48 mod6 anyone in my wot in L1 can contribue.
15:49 trinque I'll give it some love today then.
15:50 mod6 so i can see having a say, /.../bitcoin/build/ directory or something where the scripts/config files for buildroot/and everything else/ exist and can be pressed out.
15:50 mod6 but there's a fair chunk of stuff to do there.
15:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31232 @ 0.00049511 = 15.4633 BTC [-] {6}
15:52 mod6 in this case, the order of operations when building: press out a V 'branch', cd to the build directory (or somewhere in the pressed out tree), kick off the building of buildroot & everything.
15:52 mircea_popescu another thing that was disconcerting was having binaries in a /src dir
15:53 ascii_field that's a bitcoinism
15:53 mod6 oh the output binary for bitcoin?
15:53 mircea_popescu neverthe....more.
15:53 mircea_popescu yeah
15:53 trinque {src,contrib,build} etc ?
15:53 mod6 yeah, i'd vote to change that at a different time.
15:53 mod6 just because that makefile can get a bit hairy. but we can put it on the list.
15:53 pete_dushenski hmm 6 btc against trump for republican nomination in just the last day and a half, what are these people on ?
15:53 trinque it's not as though I'm debugging c++ at the moment.
15:54 mod6 <+trinque> {src,contrib,build} etc ? << 'contrib' in the sense of distfiles from say BDB/Boost/OpenSSL?
15:55 trinque yep
15:55 trinque or deps, whatever
15:55 mod6 'dist' would be fine with me. i see no problem with 'contrib' either.
15:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00050153 = 9.9804 BTC [+] {2}
15:55 mod6 better ask juorv ;)
15:56 mod6 jurov
15:56 mircea_popescu or 'shit' for that matter.
15:56 ascii_field ^
15:56 trinque lol
15:56 mod6 that would be pretty hilarious actualy.
15:56 mircea_popescu aha. these are your father's contrishitubtions.
15:58 jurov why ask me?
15:59 mircea_popescu cuz everyone's in awe of your recent memorymagicks ?
15:59 mircea_popescu go forth and name a directory!
16:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31718 @ 0.00049418 = 15.6744 BTC [-] {2}
16:02 jurov as a gentooista, i'm fine with distfiles
16:04 * trinque does not care
16:04 trinque going to make a variable :p
16:04 trinque but I lean towards shit
16:05 mod6 <+jurov> why ask me? << don't wanna step on your toes with golf shoes when it comes to btc.yt
16:06 jurov well, that's kinda different thing
16:06 pete_dushenski metal spiked golf shoes are so 1995
16:07 jurov it's about having files *inside* bitcoin directory in same places relative to each other
16:07 mod6 eh, crampons then
16:07 jurov i have no problem with dependencies, manifests, etc.
16:08 mod6 so the manifest should live in build directory as we were talking about?
16:08 mod6 oh
16:08 mod6 nm. i guess in the 'shit' dir.
16:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050154 = 9.5293 BTC [+]
16:09 jurov if you want it to show on btc.yt , best in parent dir of src
16:11 jurov but if there are compelling reasons, should not be hard to move all versions one level down so that you can have /shit/bitcoin/src
16:11 jurov and the manifest in /shit
16:11 trinque yeah.
16:12 jurov (and it will break all links in teh lawgs)
16:13 mod6 http://dpaste.com/2TBD84H.txt
16:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfXJjk )
16:13 mod6 so like this?
16:14 trinque looks pretty to me
16:14 ascii_field i'd name 'rotor'
16:14 mod6 i'm sold on that. s/build/rotor/
16:14 trinque why rotor? is there going to be some other build system?
16:14 ascii_field there is
16:14 trinque in which case yes
16:14 ascii_field just not released yet
16:14 trinque makes sense
16:14 mod6 I guess we can place a small README in bitcoin/ that can direct peeps to rotor dir.
16:15 ascii_field (whole shebang, i called... motor)
16:15 jurov ok
16:15 trinque mod6: could output where the binary was crapped at the end
16:15 trinque like building the linux kernel does with bzImage
16:16 jurov name the output dir "sphincter"
16:16 * trinque notices the shit-in/shit-out aspect of this metaphor.
16:17 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:17 ascii_field http://photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4189147/102446620/full_image/ << sov. not-so-vlsi
16:17 assbot Фото - IMGP9445 ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfXO6M )
16:17 ascii_field (source, http://photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4189147 )
16:17 assbot Радиомикрофон №1 - ОТРОК - Photo.Qip.ru / id: vas ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfXNzH )
16:18 ascii_field http://photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4189141 << similar
16:18 assbot Радиомикрофон - ОТРОК - Photo.Qip.ru / id: vas ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfXPYh )
16:18 ascii_field (these are bugs)
16:21 mod6 <+trinque> mod6: could output where the binary was crapped at the end << hmm? the makefile will drop the binary in 'bitcoin/src/' -- but yeah, could be copied somehere.
16:21 mod6 *somewhere
16:21 mod6 maybe bitcoin/bin ?? not sure on that.
16:23 jurov to ourlibs/bin, i'd say
16:24 mod6 ourlibs?
16:24 jurov or that one is only temporary?
16:24 mod6 maybe i have amnesia, but I don't remember that one at all.
16:24 * mod6 scratches head
16:25 trinque it should build in build then crap a binary with a version string appended in the dir you are in, imo
16:25 jurov where openss/boost/etc. install themselves
16:25 trinque mp last night was trying to get someone who had no knowledge of this stuff to build the thing.
16:26 mod6 it will always (until the makefile is patched) build an output binary in bitcoin/src/
16:26 trinque sure, cp $rotororwhatever/bitcoin/src/bitcoind .
16:26 trinque er, with renaming it to the current version
16:27 trinque bitcoind-0.5.4TEST or what have you
16:27 mod6 oooh jurov yeah, ok. now i remember.
16:27 mod6 i'd like to leave the bin the same name.
16:27 mod6 no reason to change that imho
16:28 mod6 i'd say maybe just copy it up underneath the bitcoin dir. so: /.../bitcoin/bitcoind
16:28 mod6 if we don't create a bin dir for it to live in.
16:29 trinque sure, was trying to address ascii_field's indicating multiple build systems and so on
16:29 trinque but that's a side note to easy access to the end product.
16:29 mod6 yeah, some of this is still up in the air
16:33 mod6 ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, asciilifeform : thoughts on the above ^ ?
16:34 ascii_field the obj crud still ends up in bitcoin dir
16:35 ascii_field and the correct vehicle for all of this is gnumake, ~if~ somebody can figure out how to make it behave sanely when invoking makefiles recursively
16:36 mod6 <+ascii_field> the obj crud still ends up in bitcoin dir << yeah, but if we were to copy out the binary somewhere, any thoughts on where it should live?
16:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25089 @ 0.00049843 = 12.5051 BTC [-] {2}
16:37 ascii_field bitcoin/bin
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16:37 mod6 ok werd.
16:39 * shinohai awaits mod6 's next release to try.
16:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21797 @ 0.00049418 = 10.7716 BTC [-]
16:46 shinohai http://www.csoonline.com/article/3017171/security/database-leak-exposes-3-3-million-hello-kitty-fans.html <<< the lolz, it hurtz
16:46 assbot Database leak exposes 3.3 million Hello Kitty fans | CSO Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1myIRNC )
16:48 pete_dushenski !up ascii_field
16:49 pete_dushenski https://www.stockpile.com/ << essentially the exact opposite of >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-12-2015#1347842
16:49 assbot Stockpile ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4cqSF )
16:49 assbot Logged on 19-12-2015 22:16:21; assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 18:20:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347241 << the thing scammers never tell the scamee is that investing is a professional activity. no fucking exceptions.
16:50 pete_dushenski 'stockpile' = tech bubble stock GIFT CARDS
16:50 pete_dushenski eg. apple, amazon, etc.
16:50 ascii_field l0l!!
16:50 ascii_field for t0p sc4mm1tud3, the card ought to have fine print
16:50 pete_dushenski "You pick the stock and dollar amount. They get fractional shares of real stock. Even kids and teens can do it!"
16:50 ascii_field 'if it goes up, we keep the diff' or the like
16:50 ascii_field almost gotta be in there somewhere
16:51 shinohai "We're winning guyz" https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/679408330868023300
16:52 ascii_field l0l waitasec they're ph0rk3d nice & proper already ?
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16:54 ascii_field meanwhile: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+MOTION+B8-2015-1366+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN
16:54 assbot Motion for a resolution on controlling virtual currencies such as the ‘bitcoin’ - B8-1366/2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4dBBu )
16:54 ascii_field BingoBoingo et al ^^ qntra ?
16:54 BingoBoingo <ascii_field> ;;later tell BingoBoingo (or anybody else who was awake last night) http://photo.qip.ru/users/otrok/4044237/96752635/full_image << i found the datasheets for all the ics. most of'em are shift registers << Sweet
16:54 assbot Фото - Без названия #9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfWT6k )
16:54 pete_dushenski ascii_field "Yes, you can sell part or all of your stock anytime for a trading commission of only 99 cents. You can also buy more of a stock you already own, or buy a new stock, for 99 cents a trade." << ~seems~ this is the main flesh hook, though others include "money in your account within 3 days" and "priced at daily close"
16:55 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> hmm 6 btc against trump for republican nomination in just the last day and a half, what are these people on ? << Ted Cruz is having a moment
16:56 pete_dushenski nyooz to me
16:57 jurov ascii_field: dunno if queefs of some french harpies are newsworthy
16:58 ascii_field jurov: maybe not
17:00 punkman for future reference: Sophie Montel, Florian Philippot, Dominique Bilde
17:00 punkman oh wait, didn't we do that last month
17:03 ascii_field unrelatedly, http://www.gson.org/netbsd/anita
17:03 assbot Anita ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4fONw )
17:04 punkman http://www.gson.org/gorba/ heh
17:04 assbot Gorba's Return ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4g8f7 )
17:05 ascii_field 'I proceeded to disassemble a Nokia 2110 battery pack, remove the batteries, glue it to a 6-volt lead-acid gel cell battery, and clip the phone onto the resulting giant battery pack (when the battery is many times larger than the phone, you don't clip the battery onto the phone). The result, "Gorba's Return", has a standby time of more than a month.' << very spiffy, also doubles as a blunt weapon or battering ram
17:08 punkman ascii_field: you ever looked at this? https://github.com/embedthis/matrixssl seems reasonably compact
17:08 assbot embedthis/matrixssl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4h0Au )
17:08 ascii_field nope
17:08 ascii_field but doesn't look compact to me
17:08 jurov nowadays you can do it with any phone, if you put 5V source and usb output on the battery
17:08 ascii_field has what, dozens of .c ?
17:09 ascii_field and it's crawling with #ifdefs
17:09 ascii_field https://github.com/embedthis/matrixssl/blob/master/matrixssl/sslDecode.c << see this alone
17:09 assbot matrixssl/sslDecode.c at master · embedthis/matrixssl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4hmXI )
17:09 ascii_field already weights most of what bitcoin weighs holy shit
17:09 mod6 haha, 1 month of standby time
17:09 ascii_field compact?!!!!
17:10 punkman well compared to opensssl it's tiny
17:10 ascii_field and compared to winblowz - tinier still
17:10 ascii_field but it's a massive turd
17:10 mod6 to make it 'v'-ifiable we basically need to write our own.
17:14 punkman do we need anything other than ECC when openssl goes on chopping block?
17:14 ascii_field aes if you wanna use old wallets
17:15 ascii_field that's it
17:16 punkman and hashing?
17:16 ascii_field sha aha
17:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32538 @ 0.0004951 = 16.1096 BTC [+] {3}
17:18 punkman I think I might try to make some kind of hand-cranked Ada tx signer
17:20 jurov some libs do exist
17:20 jurov in ada
17:21 punkman you mean the Ada-Crypto-Library?
17:21 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:21 ascii_field all i found was crud with c callouts
17:22 ascii_field because that SO MAKES SENSE - somehow
17:22 ascii_field (i guess to folks who were dropped when children?)
17:23 punkman ascii_field: didn't find any C in this but didn't look hard https://github.com/cforler/Ada-Crypto-Library
17:23 assbot cforler/Ada-Crypto-Library · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4kIKg )
17:24 mod6 was just digging in there punkman
17:25 ascii_field notbad
17:26 mod6 i need to get up to speed on ADA
17:26 * ascii_field puts the thing on list for butcher block
17:26 mircea_popescu mod6 apparently it can make code that can be pulled into c
17:26 ascii_field all gcc .o can be linked together !
17:26 ascii_field this is elementary
17:26 ascii_field gcc doesn't give a flying fuck whether c, cpp, fortran, ada, objc
17:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5605 @ 0.00049844 = 2.7938 BTC [+]
17:27 mircea_popescu aha
17:28 ascii_field caveat is that you oughtn't expect cpp tardisms (weird data structures) to port
17:28 ascii_field but other than this, if you stick to machine types, works
17:29 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2TBD84H.txt << i can see it.
17:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfXJjk )
17:30 mod6 i think since that post, we talked about changing 'build' to 'rotor'. thoughts?
17:30 mircea_popescu can see it.
17:30 punkman /me prefers less cryptic names overall
17:30 mod6 ok cool
17:31 mod6 i think 'build' is sort of non-ambigious
17:31 punkman seals vs sigs for example
17:31 mod6 i like the idea of a seal in that example though, because its like an official embossment.
17:32 mod6 i stamp out a seal.
17:32 jurov also, the shit directory is going to actually contain the blobs?
17:33 mod6 i guess it could/might have to -- this alteration will change the way we build everything currently.
17:33 jurov even if they were v-ifiable, i'd prefer to split them
17:33 ascii_field blobs ?
17:34 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350682 << binary in bin ; source in src ; shit in shit. stick to it, live long and be happy.
17:34 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 21:37:00; ascii_field: bitcoin/bin
17:34 jurov "The shit: BDB, Boost, OpenSSL & the MANIFEST for turds"
17:34 mod6 they'd be like: bitcoin/shit/openssl/ bitcoin/shit/bdb/ bitcoin/shit/openssl/ or are you saying something different about splitting jurov ?
17:34 jurov ^ i read it as "the tarballs"
17:34 BingoBoingo <ascii_field> BingoBoingo et al ^^ qntra ? << will read
17:34 mircea_popescu turdballs lol
17:34 jurov oh it's going to be all unpacked there?
17:34 ascii_field !s turdballs
17:34 assbot 3 results for 'turdballs' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=turdballs
17:36 mod6 <+jurov> oh it's going to be all unpacked there? << yeah, perhaps not. currently i extract & build all that stuff under 'rotor'. i guess shit should just be: <+jurov> "The shit: BDB, Boost, OpenSSL & the MANIFEST for turds" <- this stuff the turdballs and the manifest.
17:36 mod6 then the build script can move that stuff over as needed?
17:37 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350700 <<< bringing up roger ver is not so unlike trying to bring up the original bruce. the guy's a muppet.
17:37 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 21:52:39; ascii_field: l0l waitasec they're ph0rk3d nice & proper already ?
17:37 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> nyooz to me << You gotta listen to KMOX in the car. Keeps you up with fiat paranoia
17:37 mircea_popescu in this case, he's discussing "the testnet", which is another way of saying "the ducklings in his bath"
17:38 jurov mod6 depends if wwe're going to vpatch these, too
17:38 mod6 "these" as in 'V'-ifiy the turds?
17:38 mod6 we're not going to do that, we're just gonna create a manifest with their proper SHA512 hashes.
17:39 jurov and what part of the directory structure will come from v press?
17:39 mircea_popescu word mod6
17:39 jurov if all of it, then obv the turdballs will live out of it
17:39 mod6 the whole thing
17:40 mircea_popescu this "patches get sigils, shit gets a serial number" approach very neatly and intuitively draws the all-important difference.
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17:40 mircea_popescu people kept saying in log how they don't wanna sign the crap. and i readily see why.
17:40 trinque jurov: the turdballs don't have to be vpatched to get put into directories which were created via vpatch
17:40 trinque distfiles/.keep or whatever
17:41 trinque or better yet distfiles/README
17:41 trinque I'm sorry, shit/README
17:42 mircea_popescu trinque brace yourself for when this, like so many other b-a originated crazy, actually takes over your life and you start renaming dirs to /shit/ in githobs.
17:42 trinque heh, it will undoubtably come
17:43 mod6 so i think jurov has a good question; if we don't drop the turdballs into V, which we're not, and the MANIFEST is the only thing in the 'shit' directory that is pressed out by 'V', where do the tarballs come from?
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17:43 mod6 They will be mirrored on thebitcoin.foundation.
17:43 jurov and other mirrors
17:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00049844 = 8.0747 BTC [+]
17:43 mod6 sure.
17:44 mod6 does this all sound okie dokie then?
17:46 mod6 and beyond this with V, if we create a 'Compact Disk' of all of this, we can just stick the trinity of turds in 'shit' along with buildroot and whatever it needs.
17:46 mod6 or something to that effect. we can cross that bridge later.
17:47 mod6 anyway, thanks all. good talk. bbs.
17:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10466 @ 0.00049409 = 5.1711 BTC [-] {3}
17:56 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00049516 = 3.7632 BTC [+] {2}
17:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11944 @ 0.00049516 = 5.9142 BTC [+]
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18:15 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350799 >>><<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-12-2015#1348936
18:15 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 22:40:28; mircea_popescu: this "patches get sigils, shit gets a serial number" approach very neatly and intuitively draws the all-important difference.
18:15 assbot Logged on 20-12-2015 22:05:32; asciilifeform: v the tarball hashes.
18:15 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350807 << the cd !
18:15 assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 22:43:02; mod6: so i think jurov has a good question; if we don't drop the turdballs into V, which we're not, and the MANIFEST is the only thing in the 'shit' directory that is pressed out by 'V', where do the tarballs come from?
18:16 ascii_field which, incidentally, also ought to contain other useful goodies
18:16 ascii_field e.g., pubkeys
18:16 ascii_field and possibly blog mirrors for some folks
18:16 ascii_field (anyone game?)
18:16 ascii_field and other items enemy might like to magick away one day
18:17 ascii_field or silently diddle
18:17 ascii_field said disk also being, naturally, bootable
18:17 ascii_field and containing src for all of itself.
18:19 * ascii_field bbl.
18:21 pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo q to the n to the t to the r to the a : http://dpaste.com/11VM9F8.txt
18:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBnns6 )
18:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:23 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: It's Hussein Bahamas, not Barry
18:23 pete_dushenski pfff
18:24 pete_dushenski i like the alliteration
18:24 pete_dushenski also, 'barry bahamas' sounds closer to godawful floral silk t-shirt maker 'tommy bahamas'
18:25 pete_dushenski which is also, conveniently, from hawaii
18:26 BingoBoingo But Barry hides his secret muslim history in Kenya and Chiraq
18:26 pete_dushenski "Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same."
18:26 pete_dushenski ""It wasn't like there was a mass death of males. They were there, so what were they doing?" asks Melissa Wilson Sayres, a computational biologist at Arizona State University, and a member of a group of scientists who uncovered this moment in prehistory by analyzing modern genes."
18:26 pete_dushenski ^bwahahaha
18:27 pete_dushenski "where did all the dicks go ?! it's like a virus killed them all !"
18:27 pete_dushenski yes, hun, the virus is called
18:27 pete_dushenski 'stupidity'
18:27 pete_dushenski try not to catch, wouldja
18:27 pete_dushenski catch it*
18:28 pete_dushenski http://a2.files.psmag.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,w_620/MTI4ODMwNDQ5ODU3MzY5MzYy.png << visualised
18:28 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/22oEHIx )
18:29 pete_dushenski or maybe that, with agriculture, came larger communities and more ready revelation of inherent inequalities between men
18:29 pete_dushenski before women could only choose from the losers in their little band or tribe.
18:29 pete_dushenski but in cities, they could pick from the cream of the crop !
18:34 deedbot- [Qntra] Clinton Sells Nuking Math - http://qntra.net/2015/12/clinton-sells-nuking-math/
18:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.00049397 = 14.1275 BTC [-] {3}
18:41 BingoBoingo http://i.imgur.com/QMjMw7F.gifv
18:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBpf4a )
18:41 BingoBoingo https://www.rt.com/news/326643-tanker-chemical-leak-fumes/
18:41 assbot Chemical tanker truck bursts, spews nauseous orange fumes near playground (VIDEO) — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBpiwW )
18:42 BingoBoingo That tree prolly isn't going to make it
18:45 BingoBoingo ;;ud bfrc
18:45 gribble Google found nothing.
18:51 BingoBoingo the opposition https://archive.is/enHPl
18:51 assbot PSA: faction-wide buffs are determined by the INT and WIS of your faction's leaders. Please stop electing faction leaders on the basis of CHA. : outside ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBqikI )
18:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18441 @ 0.00049343 = 9.0993 BTC [-]
19:01 punkman what, obama had charisma? or maybe trump does?
19:14 BingoBoingo trump does. he's a tv show
19:15 * BingoBoingo forced that edit on pete_dushenski because gotta dehumanize politicians even if they seem lulzy atm
19:18 BingoBoingo From mines: "5 minutes after crossing the bridge I got out of my meditative trance and thought for the first time "Where the hell am I?" And then I sort of panicked. There were no signs or people around, just muddy countryside. Having seen all the documentaries and read all the articles about North Korea, I prayed I had not just inadvertently wandered into the Hermit Kingdom. And still the idea was so laughable, I seriously didn't
19:18 BingoBoingo believe it would have been that simple to cross into and keep going without being stopped. But out of panic I turned around and walked back to the bridge telling myself I was a paranoid pussy. I called my friend on the phone walking back and told him where I walked roughly and he just screamed at me to "STOP TALKING AND RUN BACK ACROSS THE BRIDGE NOW"."
19:18 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
19:18 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 435.04, Best ask: 435.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 435.62, 24 hour volume: 18399.5069656, 24 hour low: 433.0, 24 hour high: 443.64, 24 hour vwap: None
19:32 BingoBoingo Not safe for lyf https://i.sli.mg/axoRhp.jpg
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19:32 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBtmxe )
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19:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00049452 = 5.7612 BTC [+] {2}
20:03 danielpbarron http://hackingdistributed.com/2015/12/22/bitcoin-runs-on-altruism/ >> Luckily, most of them are so heavily invested in cryptocurrencies that the best they could afford was a Mosin Nagant, a measly relic, Soviet war surplus direct from Stalingrad. << someone reads the log!
20:03 assbot Bitcoin Runs On Altruism ... ( http://bit.ly/1QK0uXl )
20:08 asciilifeform the lulzy part is that the nagant in the logs is ~not~ the mosin-nagant
20:08 asciilifeform but the nagant revolver.
20:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33902 @ 0.00049579 = 16.8083 BTC [+] {3}
20:09 asciilifeform also an arshin is an imperial ru measure
20:09 asciilifeform and not 'commie' in any sense
20:10 * asciilifeform quits reading the nonsense
20:14 pete_dushenski !up kanzure
20:15 pete_dushenski heya bryan bishop
20:15 pete_dushenski how go the 'capacity increases' ?
20:15 kanzure sup
20:17 pete_dushenski https://archive.is/FyOlf << more caucasians ditching usdollar
20:17 assbot Azerbaijani Manat Buckles After Government Drops Dollar Peg - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1mg9A0J )
20:22 pete_dushenski !gettrust kanzure
20:22 assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user kanzure: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=kanzure | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/kanzure/
20:22 pete_dushenski !gettrust midnightmagic
20:22 assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user midnightmagic: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=midnightmagic | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/midnightmagic/
20:22 pete_dushenski ^another bigger blockhead, apparently
20:24 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-01-2015#999266 << related
20:24 assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here.
20:24 pete_dushenski !gettrust dexx7
20:24 assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user dexx7: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=dexx7 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/dexx7/
20:25 pete_dushenski danielpbarron: heh. quite related.
20:33 * pete_dushenski a sa petite famille
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00049588 = 5.4547 BTC [+]
20:55 danielpbarron !up desantis
20:56 mircea_popescu <mod6> does this all sound okie dokie then? << far as i can tell ye
20:57 mircea_popescu <ascii_field> and possibly blog mirrors for some folks << actually i'm writing a major piece for trilema, bbs.
21:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00049318 = 23.6233 BTC [-] {4}
21:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00049606 = 12.1287 BTC [+] {2}
21:19 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
21:19 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 437.34, Best ask: 437.69, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 437.69, 24 hour volume: 18711.95214868, 24 hour low: 433.0, 24 hour high: 443.64, 24 hour vwap: None
21:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00049552 = 11.7438 BTC [-]
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21:56 asciilifeform incidentally, zoolag is under heavy and modestly-clever ddos
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21:57 asciilifeform motherfucking aws.
21:58 asciilifeform i'ma nullroute aws on all of my nodez. as soon as i can be bothered to make an exhaustive list of the ranges.
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22:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.0004933 = 24.0237 BTC [-] {2}
22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00049286 = 14.5394 BTC [-]
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22:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.0004959 = 2.6779 BTC [+] {2}
22:49 mircea_popescu https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json
22:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/22p5e8z )
22:49 mircea_popescu via https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/aws-ip-ranges-json/
22:49 assbot AWS Public IP Address Ranges Now Available in JSON Form | AWS Official Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/22p5gNR )
22:49 mod6 nice
22:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i had quite a shit-adventure with that
22:51 asciilifeform found a script somewhere that fetches that thing and crunches to iptables
22:51 asciilifeform aaaaand it needs 'jq'
22:52 asciilifeform which 1) is not available as a binary package on centos (which the node i was testing on, runs)
22:52 asciilifeform 2) WILL NOT MOTHERFUCKING BUILD
22:52 asciilifeform configure.ac:10: error: Autoconf version 2.64 or higher is required
22:53 asciilifeform https://github.com/corbanworks/aws-blocker
22:53 assbot corbanworks/aws-blocker · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/22p5BQs )
22:53 asciilifeform and no i don't feel like writing a json parser
22:54 asciilifeform whole thing can go to hell.
22:54 mircea_popescu ...
22:55 mircea_popescu just pipe it from json to iptables -A INPUT -s x -j DROP through your favourite perl ?
22:55 mircea_popescu which i take to be python ?
22:56 asciilifeform yea eventually
22:57 mircea_popescu cross the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same." <<< no mammal population survives that doesn't do some sort of female herding of this kind.
22:58 mircea_popescu the one man - one woman puritan nonsense is just that. nonsense.
22:59 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/continut-platit-no-more << holyshit
22:59 assbot Continut platit no more. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/22p64T1 )
22:59 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/QMjMw7F.gifv << that looks like nitrogen, which isn't really much of a health hazard.
22:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NBpf4a )
22:59 asciilifeform also holy shit i read the title and assumed it was a snarky ru-eng pun but it wasn't
23:00 asciilifeform and nitrogen ain't brown
23:00 deedbot- [Trilema] Continut platit no more. - http://trilema.com/2015/continut-platit-no-more/
23:00 asciilifeform looks like NO2
23:00 asciilifeform http://900igr.net/datas/khimija/Reaktsii-veschestv/0017-017-NO2.jpg << him
23:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/22p6eti )
23:01 asciilifeform http://konspekta.net/studopediaorg/baza13/356644164595.files/image170.jpg << ditto
23:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/22p6gSb )
23:01 mircea_popescu lol bitcoin runs on altruism. it's gotten so bad by now you can identify idiots by the simple rule that they'll use the word "altruism".
23:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00049685 = 20.4205 BTC [+] {3}
23:02 mircea_popescu nitrogen [oxide] whatevs!
23:03 mircea_popescu "It has become a commonly repeated mantra, among extreme libertarian Bitcoin cultists, that "if Bitcoin relies on altruism, then it has already failed."" <<< wutever the fuck ?
23:03 mircea_popescu ;;google "if Bitcoin relies on altruism, then it has already failed."
23:03 gribble [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork - Mailing Lists: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html>; Satoshi Nakamoto Speaks? Bitcoin XT Fork Debate Allegedly Draws ...: <http://cointelegraph.com/news/115139/satoshi-nakamoto-speaks-bitcoin-xt-fork-debate-allegedly-draws-ire-of-bitcoin-creator>; The P + epsilon Attack - Ethereum Blog: (1 more message)
23:03 mircea_popescu oh, those schmucks.
23:03 mircea_popescu mmmmkay.
23:04 mircea_popescu meanwhile, b,tmsr~ still runs its deficits. this has exactly nothing to do with "altruism", just like it has exactly nothing to do wit hthe rest of the nonsense spewed by the decaying latrine once known as "the west".
23:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: so will it go on the cd ??
23:07 asciilifeform (and... will even fit ?)
23:09 BingoBoingo * asciilifeform quits reading the nonsense << Then you miss "Full nodes could record and release or sell the IP addresses of their SPV clients, in a large breach of privacy. That they do not do this is incredibly nice of them."
23:09 asciilifeform oh ferfuxxsake
23:09 asciilifeform do we need the verbal equivalents of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1350875 for anything.
23:09 assbot Logged on 23-12-2015 00:32:31; BingoBoingo: Not safe for lyf https://i.sli.mg/axoRhp.jpg
23:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it won't fit on one cd. or one dvd for that matter.
23:12 mircea_popescu maybe if you snip the pics.
23:12 asciilifeform eh.
23:12 * asciilifeform would buy the 'simtel'-style disk set if mircea_popescu sold
23:13 asciilifeform incidentally al schwartz did this
23:13 asciilifeform and i saved pennies as a boy and bought.
23:13 asciilifeform still have'em.
23:13 asciilifeform (floppies!!)
23:13 mircea_popescu ibelieveit.
23:13 asciilifeform funny, i never bought the btc token thing. but WOULD snap up the disk..
23:14 mircea_popescu i briefly considered printing and selling book versions. however a) it's truly an immense volume of material. even if you made yearly volumes, you'd have multi thousand page tomes.
23:14 mircea_popescu and more importantly b) fucking hell paper, how do you click ?
23:14 asciilifeform aha this was why uncle al never printed
23:14 asciilifeform these 2 reasons exactly
23:14 mircea_popescu brb ima run wordcount.
23:17 mircea_popescu 1267814.
23:17 mircea_popescu words.
23:17 asciilifeform incl. quoted text ?
23:18 mircea_popescu well... articles as-are.
23:19 mircea_popescu hmm this is suspicious.
23:19 mircea_popescu mno, 1.26mn words IN COMMENTS.
23:20 mircea_popescu 10`896`842 words in articles excluding [most] of the quoted content.
23:20 asciilifeform neato
23:20 mircea_popescu 12573089 otherwise.
23:21 mircea_popescu and 2gb worth of images.
23:22 mircea_popescu so i suppose it'd fit on a dvd if not a cd per se.
23:23 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEnmSem8C-0
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23:23 assbot CD Replication Line: Making a CD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/22p8hO6 )
23:24 asciilifeform ^ for anyone who has not seen such a thing
23:24 mircea_popescu there were some pretty huge factories in bulgaria back in the 90s
23:24 mircea_popescu big bidnis.
23:24 asciilifeform iirc india has the market cornered now.
23:25 mircea_popescu aha.
23:25 mircea_popescu the chinese govt would rather not see the retarded shit in their domain
23:26 mircea_popescu so that leaves the other swamp.
23:26 asciilifeform sorta sad, the kind of crud that ends up on pressed cd
23:26 BingoBoingo Things Linus surrended the ability to say https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=145082406231205&w=2
23:26 assbot 'Re: text-mode gui' - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/22p8yk0 )
23:26 mircea_popescu who names a bar "cheers" ?
23:26 asciilifeform considering that pressed cd is possibly one of longest lived storage devices known today
23:30 mircea_popescu heh. trilema comes back online, next you know there's 230mb worth of access logs. BECAUSE ADDICTS! ADDICTS EVERYWHERE!
23:32 * asciilifeform can finally delete tor...
23:32 mircea_popescu lolwut ?
23:33 asciilifeform well it was for 1 thing only, l0l
23:33 mircea_popescu ahahahaha\
23:33 mircea_popescu SCAM!
23:33 * asciilifeform mooching louse, aha
23:33 mircea_popescu !rate asciilifeform -9000 you wouldn't download a car!
23:33 assbot Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.
23:34 asciilifeform https://youtu.be/u3cDRGBBVXA?t=7m6s << moar mega-cleanroom pr0n
23:34 assbot Disc Manufacturing, Inc plant tour circa 1995 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/22p98OX )
23:34 * mircea_popescu to... bed, let's call it thus.
23:34 mircea_popescu laters!
23:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00049286 = 13.2579 BTC [-]
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