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01:22 BingoBoingo !up scoopbot_revived
01:22 BingoBoingo Oh shit scoopbot_revived
01:29 liquidassets These Usian Disney chicks keep using 'love' like it's this thing one gives to another to substitute for what one lacks, or a tool for filling a void or getting what one wants. Maybe the word they're actually looking for is cock! Do you cock me? Well sure I do baby.
01:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00047557 = 7.3476 BTC [+] {2}
01:31 ben_vulpes http://thetab.com/us/uconn/2015/12/07/exclusive-interview-artist-pissed-off-greek-life-1908 << victoria valentine actually went so far as to file a Fair Use doctrine appeal. doesn't appear that vimeo gives a shit, though.
01:31 assbot We spoke to the 'Cuse artist whose cult video pissed off Greek life ... ( http://bit.ly/1NhEddb )
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02:03 BingoBoingo !up btcdrak
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02:32 BingoBoingo http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2015/12/04/shkrelis-chagas-maneuver << Also important to note Chagas is an emerging illness in the United States
02:32 assbot Shkreli’s Chagas Maneuver | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1NaOM44 )
02:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00047509 = 7.3639 BTC [+]
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03:16 adlai huh, so tradeblock.com (dynamic web2.0++ horrorshow, be warned) flags bitfinex as "operating unreliably", butt has no problem giving okcasino over 50% weighing in their price index
03:19 punkman http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209
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03:19 assbot Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1lO2G2y )
03:23 punkman where's cazalla with the scoop
03:31 BingoBoingo punkman: I just saw it. Writing up a note.
03:45 punkman raid supposedly not related to bitcoin, but obvious what would happen to the real satoshi
03:46 punkman maybe he's already in coke machine but doesn't remember teh keys
03:47 punkman adlai, did you try any of the chinese exchanges yet?
03:52 adlai mno
03:56 adlai it's reassuring that we've not had another gox-scale gox since gox... yet
03:56 punkman wait for it when price shoots up again
04:00 adlai meanwhilol, https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/10/cons-conflict-resolved-at-last/
04:00 assbot jwz: Cons conflict resolved at last ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSPuDz )
04:00 deedbot- [Qntra] Craig Steven Wright Raided By Australian Police - http://qntra.net/2015/12/craig-steven-wright-raided-by-australian-police/
04:01 BingoBoingo My first draft had the phrase "theft boners"
04:01 adlai (from comments) "Please add a "+1" button to each topic post. It doesn't have to and probably shouldn't do anything except maybe flash once if you push it." << reminds of the crosswalk impatience vents
04:02 adlai ransomware!
04:02 adlai who knew it'd reach meatspace
04:02 BingoBoingo I though ransomware started in meatspace
04:03 * adlai tends to forget the years Before Coin
04:15 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVvZ-hnUsAAQfe4.png:large
04:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQd7P )
04:16 adlai reasonable people do themselves a disservice by stooping to the language of simpletons
04:16 punkman "anthropomorphic global warming"
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04:17 adlai just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues
04:18 BingoBoingo https://i.sli.mg/6aMmQd.png
04:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE6QEI )
04:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00047829 = 11.0963 BTC [+]
04:22 punkman -morhpic, -genic , who cares, the first few letters look right
04:24 BingoBoingo https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/712180
04:24 assbot HAES: "My bloodwork is perfect" edition. | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7rX1 )
04:25 adlai http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w1s4i/should_we_rename_the_blockchain_craigs_list/
04:25 assbot Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7wde )
04:29 BingoBoingo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2953749/Now-doctors-boy-12-gastric-band-Youngest-British-patient-extreme-weight-loss-surgery-experts-declare-child-obesity-parents-fault-new-TV-expos.html
04:29 assbot Now doctors give boy, 12, gastric band: Youngest ever British patient of extreme weight-loss surgery as experts declare child obesity IS parents' fault in new TV exposé  | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQRCh )
04:30 BingoBoingo https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao
04:30 assbot Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )
04:33 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/e17Ed
04:33 assbot dudetalking comments on Dr. Craig Steven Wright (alleged Satoshi, by Wired) on YouTube, from Bitcoin Investor Conference at Las Vegas ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE86I3 )
04:44 adlai moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet
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04:50 adlai aha so at 20:37 cowboy hat cites jgarzik for an idea of softforking turing-complete opcodes... i'd like to see miners lemming their way along with that soft fork
04:51 * adlai wonders whether we'll first see a fork fail soft or hard
04:55 adlai https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/674365484029059072 (panel moderator, seems to have been the bait that fished out the good doctor)
04:56 adlai assbot choking on twitter? https://archive.is/oWetS
04:56 assbot DI$RUPTIV3 on Twitter: "You know that moment when you discover that someone you thought worthy proves himself to not be? #WeighedAndMeasuredAndFailed" ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEadeR )
05:09 adlai "as a recovering government bureaucrat, i'll refrain from commenting things i know nothing about" ed moy wins the panel
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05:41 mircea_popescu <assbot> Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator << ahahaha WHAT\
05:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18485 @ 0.00049075 = 9.0715 BTC [+]
05:49 mircea_popescu punkman> "anthropomorphic global warming" << he means anthropogenic, but whatever. redditards.
05:50 mircea_popescu <adlai> just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues <<< this is an exceptionally retarded approach to keeping idiots in check. it has a lengthy history of being deployed by "white" people ever before white people were invented, and it always failed. nevertheless, it's stil
05:50 mircea_popescu l with us like the belief god may change your coke to pepsi : because it's easy, and because it caters to the specific lacks and infirmities of the "white" mind.
05:52 mircea_popescu <assbot> Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... << pretty much the core of why redditards are so lulzy. THEY are going to RENAME things ? like what, their imaginary gf ? isis ?
05:53 fluffypony mircea_popescu: pretty sure that was a joke
05:53 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao <<< ahahaa now i remember that muppet. intel turned him up sometime this autumn, total lulzfest.
05:53 assbot Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )
05:53 adlai it doesn't keep them in check, the purpose is deflection
05:53 mircea_popescu basically keiser in his youth.
05:55 mircea_popescu fluffypony no, the "joke" is only there to make the idiocy pass.
05:55 mircea_popescu kinda how adolescents the world over do their dating. "hey, wanna go out with me ? no ? oh, i was only joking. ha-ha."
05:55 mircea_popescu funniest shit ever.
05:56 mircea_popescu "Who filed the claim? Gamma Phi Beta and Kappa Delta, two large national organizations of sisterly love, whose houses and members were featured in the video. This was highly suspect."
05:56 mircea_popescu yeah dude. totally fucking suspect, that you film on my premises without paying me and then don't get to benefit from the product. so suspect it almost makes me wonder why the fuck would i even bother owning shit.
05:57 adlai heh, ed moy's closing words boil down to "usg has no future in bitcoin beyond hoping to tax it"
05:57 mircea_popescu hey, that's exactly what the republic of china's government hopes in china are. har har. they'll tax the mainland off taiwan!"
05:59 * adlai can't believe he watched the entire panel, but it has the perfect blend of pseudoscience, technobabble, and hopium
05:59 mircea_popescu !up dbclk
05:59 punkman film on my premises without paying me << looked like he just used segments from sororities' own videos
05:59 * mircea_popescu just realised that what he should be doing with this time these days is interview isis derps.
06:00 * mircea_popescu realised immediatelyt thereafter with some sadness that he can't actually be arsed to go into the anthill and impose sense upon it.
06:00 * mircea_popescu sees the wisdom of asciilifeform now, to his chagrin.
06:00 mircea_popescu punkman right ?
06:07 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://logs.minigame.bz/2015-12-09.log.html#t11:06:47
06:07 assbot #Eulora log for Wednesday, 2015-12-09 ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAuIcX )
06:11 mircea_popescu that sciencemag bit is hysterical tho. idiots who buy into the whole "ip is needed for to creativity with!" hook line and sinker are displeased when it turns out "ip only exists for people to arb the process, and make money out of the money intended to support creativity". but it never occurs to them what the problem is. because hey, why should scientists be any better at thinking than random five year old, "dog bit me
06:11 mircea_popescu , dog's bad"
06:11 mircea_popescu it's not like their own unsufferable personalities ever bite them. it's just these damned dogs everywhere all the time!
06:13 mircea_popescu anyway, so the point of the "is random derp X ?" (no) article was so that reuters could run a piece saying "Australian police raided the Sydney home and office on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of bitcoin and holder of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency, Reuters witnesses said."
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06:14 mircea_popescu which is great, i guess, if you're at that level of stupid, but otherwise would seem kinda damaging.
06:14 mircea_popescu i guess reuters, wired & all correctly judge that there's absolutely no brand value left in their shit and so why worry.
06:15 mircea_popescu in other news, would any of the brighter minds present explain the jwz piece to me ? i have the feeling he thinks he's being clever, but i lack the resources to comprehend the intricate minutia of his idiocy.
06:28 mircea_popescu https://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/most-positive-bignum/ << in his defense this is actually pretty lulzy. ESPECIALLY the microcode loop part.
06:28 assbot jwz: MOST-POSITIVE-BIGNUM ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAwvih )
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06:38 fluffypony https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2vU8M6CYI
06:38 assbot Beatles 3000 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxqiz )
06:38 mircea_popescu http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
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06:38 assbot Dreamsongs ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxnDA )
06:38 mircea_popescu "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" evaluates to p-bignum.
06:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00048196 = 9.0849 BTC [-] {2}
06:42 mircea_popescu http://www.sei.cmu.edu/splc2009/images/rgabriel.jpg << protip : almost no one outside of young women looks good smiling. STOP DOING IT. you're supposed to have a personality. have a fucking personality.
06:42 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxLSp )
06:48 mircea_popescu http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2011/12/22/astrophysics/ << "Doing the math we can conclude it will take 1.7 x 10^17 years for our sun to generate the same amount of energy as the dietary value of one cubic light year of cheese."
06:48 assbot Astrophysics – blarg? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qvn3xl )
06:54 adlai "College is a place where a professor's lecture notes go straight to a student's lecture notes without passing through the brains of either" - Samuel L Clemens
06:54 mircea_popescu http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLIMATE_COUNTDOWN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-08-15-02-36 << in more random lulz, Cardinal Peter Turkson, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace who helped draft the pope's June encyclical on global warming, said "If it gets to a stalemate or whatever, [...]". valley girls prevail.
06:54 assbot News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvnFmm )
06:54 mircea_popescu or whatever.
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07:06 adlai http://roland.iwasno.net/lisp/datoura/datoura.html "set of data graphing lisp routines that generate postscript output. Generating postscript eliminates the need for X graphics libraries, but you must have a postscript viewer installed"
07:06 assbot datoura_homepage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAzoiZ )
07:06 adlai great for printing afictionados and headless arsonists
07:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00047426 = 11.6194 BTC [-] {3}
07:18 mircea_popescu https://angel.co/syndicates << in other news, every proprietary scamsystem/kickstarter out there will be sooner or later building a bug-ridden, half-baked, ad-hoc implementation of the common wot.
07:19 assbot Syndicates - AngelList ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAAonn )
07:19 mircea_popescu and pretend like they have no clue about it, too. "i just got this idea".
07:19 mircea_popescu all romanian literature, +- 2 or 3 people in the entire history, consists of translations and imports passed off as original.
07:20 mircea_popescu the crayfish, frog and pike story counts in romanian as "wholly original content by al donici", notwithstanding it's a plain as day translation of previous generation ru material.
07:20 mircea_popescu all "rock" throuyghout the 60s-90s is simply us music set to [bad] localised lyrics. and contemporary "rap" is just about the same.
07:21 mircea_popescu there's something very appealing to idiocy about this process of "invention" through kidnapping a princess and dragging her through the mud of one's orcish abode.
07:23 adlai leaving your mark on the world, like a pissing mutt, rather than breathing life into a new one
07:23 mircea_popescu what mark ? chagas is hardly a mark.
07:24 adlai https://imgur.com/snLplqq
07:24 assbot i made this little comic, hope you like it - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQhtFF )
07:26 mircea_popescu then we wonder why cuckolding is the primary lifestyle of white pplz.
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07:30 mircea_popescu http://25iq.com/2015/03/28/a-dozen-things-ive-learned-from-startup-l-jackson-about-venture-capital-investing-and-startups/ << quarterly review of the whole "start-up" gargle as amusing this quarter as the last, and the many before that.
07:30 assbot A Dozen Things I’ve Learned from Startup L. Jackson About Venture Capital Investing and Startups | 25iq ... ( http://bit.ly/1TABnDY )
07:30 mircea_popescu "here's the things we want you to think : a) that you need us ; b) that you shouldn't look out for yourself".
07:31 mircea_popescu yeah, totally. what you want when doing a start-up is to "raise" a lot of money so you can pay the people who you "rose" it from rent so their real-estate sidelines do really well (in exactly the opposite fashion of what's preached here), while "not optimizing for your size of the pie".
07:31 mircea_popescu sounds like exactly what they told the indians, too.
07:32 punkman it does say 25 iq
07:33 mircea_popescu which happens to be exactly what's happening, too. indians "had" land, the nature of which they failed to understand, but it was the funciar good for good reason back then.
07:34 mircea_popescu these indians have time, the nature of which they also fail to understand, and well... it's the funciar good today.
07:34 mircea_popescu oh right, and i forgot, "c) there's a shortage of you suckers [and really, alot of money you can give right back to us is "chasing" this deal. totally.]"
07:36 mircea_popescu punkman so it does huh. except it's a weird thing, i've seen this lots in us-born slavegirls. woman could be well above 100 iq, think herself stupid, and indeed exhibit ~30-50 iq in selected fields.
07:36 mircea_popescu so well selected for the convenience&perpetuation of the stupidity she comes from, one can hardly believe it's not deliberately trained.
07:37 mircea_popescu but whatever, fight "patriarchy", not the incredibly unhealthy system that makes you be dumb in the few spots it handles you by so your smarts in the rest of the spectrum can be best sucked dry.
07:39 mircea_popescu average ustard is, i would guess, a 110 to 115 iq college graduate whose 110 to 115 iq is composed of 150+ iq in beating himself up, 25 iq in establishing relationships and so on and so forth.
07:40 mircea_popescu ethical idiocy, where ethical does not mean what esltards think it means, but merely "how to correctly live".
07:42 mircea_popescu this is actually indicative of the very fucking problem : ethics means, how to live. such as for instance, how to drive a fucking airplane i nthe tax office if you live in the us. that's ethics. meanwhile the carefully-debilitated ustards actually think ethics means the exact opposite of what ethics means. to them ethics is "the ways to inconvenience your life".
07:42 mircea_popescu iq 25 alright.
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08:33 Naphex o/ morning
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09:15 deedbot- [Trilema] Etica Mircea - http://trilema.com/2015/etica-mircea/
09:15 mircea_popescu rfc btw ^
09:18 nubbins` !seen mitch_callahan
09:18 * nubbins` shrugs
09:19 jurov ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
09:19 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 384.0, Best ask: 386.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 386.0, 24 hour volume: 166.94604927, 24 hour low: 361.0, 24 hour high: 387.0, 24 hour vwap: 378.32201248
09:19 jurov !t m x.eur
09:19 assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260363 / 0.00269875 / 0.00276803 (513 shares, 1.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00260363 / 0.00278366 / 0.00282306 (1652 shares, 4.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00260363 / 0.00308798 / 0.00343696 (6435 shares, 19.87 BTC)
09:19 jurov ;;calc 1/0.00260363
09:19 gribble 384.079151031
09:20 jurov mkay
09:23 Naphex ben_vulpes: i did write xotika and still do. I work with a graphic designer and frontend developer
09:24 Naphex CoraCrisT handless the bussiness side, and press and recruiting and a bunch of other stuff
09:24 Naphex ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
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09:25 Naphex the api is meant to be exported for all the other clients which we will be developing
09:25 Naphex like Android APPs for phones/tables and smarttv
09:25 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b13
09:30 shinohai http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty
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09:30 assbot PINE A64 is a $15, 'high-performance' take on the Raspberry Pi ... ( http://bit.ly/1M2ZcPb )
09:30 Naphex ben_vulpes:and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.
09:30 Naphex <<< spot on
09:32 Naphex i only cover chrome for the most part, firefox got really left behind..
09:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11561 @ 0.00048596 = 5.6182 BTC [-] {2}
09:46 punkman ".gnupg/random_seed. A file used to preserve the state of the internal random pool." any clue what this thing is?
09:46 mircea_popescu i discovered yest so did everyone, Naphex
09:46 mircea_popescu apparently chrome is taking over.
09:47 mircea_popescu punkman seed for the internal prng iirc
09:47 mircea_popescu and in random eulora stuff, http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/map1.script << check out the awks!
09:47 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1M311LQ )
09:47 punkman but why would I want to preserve this
09:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60205 @ 0.00049078 = 29.5474 BTC [+] {2}
09:48 mircea_popescu my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.
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09:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00049084 = 10.6512 BTC [+]
10:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339629 << mno. preservation.
10:02 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 14:48:29; mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.
10:03 asciilifeform gotta understand how, in a prng, the seed is the only genuine bit of entropy;
10:03 mircea_popescu aha.
10:03 asciilifeform and how, where the state consists of solely how long the thing has been churning, naturally it stows a turd
10:04 asciilifeform sorta how leporidae (e.g., rabbit) stores his half-digested food in edible turdlets
10:04 asciilifeform the design of gpg rng subsystem assumes extreme entropy-starvation. this is plain as daylight from 10 minutes of reading the src.
10:18 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339615 << kickstarturd
10:18 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 14:30:13; shinohai: http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty
10:19 asciilifeform ' Oh, and it starts from just $15 and is available to "pre-order" via Kickstarter right now.'
10:19 asciilifeform 'PINE A64 includes a quad-core ARM Cortex A53 1.2GHz processor, dual-core Mali 400 MP2 graphics..' << aaaaaand dingdingdingding we get to the requires-closed-driver-turd-just-to-run item 10 seconds in.
10:20 asciilifeform just like the samsung arm 'chromebook' gathering dust in my bookcase
10:20 asciilifeform will happily run 'linux'
10:20 asciilifeform but not, of course, linux.
10:20 mircea_popescu heh
10:21 * asciilifeform wondered for some time why anyone would market a gpu chipset named for african pisshole
10:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.00048451 = 11.9916 BTC [-] {2}
10:30 mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/107461376f815e227c81d6da9b7fce16/tumblr_ni02qz5D4W1td0y0yo1_1280.jpg
10:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1REDYy5 )
10:34 shinohai not so nifty then
10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00049086 = 13.9404 BTC [+] {3}
10:46 deedbot- [Trilema] Eulora as seen by Mircescu - http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu/
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11:12 mircea_popescu and in other weird news, http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/08/thousands-coffee-cans-wash-up-indialantic/76969680/
11:12 assbot Coffee spill: Thousands of coffee cans wash up in Indialantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1lurGwk )
11:18 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339455 << brings to mind the 16th-17th. c. idiots who pushed themselves as 'great alchemists', ended up taken captive by some lord who wanted phr33333 g0ld, and eventually guzzled lead on the public scaffold for charlatanry
11:18 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 08:19:42; punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-bitcoin-exclusive-idUSKBN0TS0AB20151209
11:19 * asciilifeform bbl.
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11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14311 @ 0.00048902 = 6.9984 BTC [-] {2}
12:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18984 @ 0.00049153 = 9.3312 BTC [+] {2}
12:15 punkman https://twitter.com/anildash/status/674569165429174272
12:25 nubbins` ^ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
12:32 nubbins` says he hasn't even listened to it yet
12:32 * nubbins` weeps with laughter
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12:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23050 @ 0.00048968 = 11.2871 BTC [-] {3}
12:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17071 @ 0.00049069 = 8.3766 BTC [+] {2}
13:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00048902 = 3.1542 BTC [-] {2}
13:08 thestringpuller nubbins`: as they say CREAM
13:14 ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines
13:14 assbot WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )
13:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.0004859 = 12.9978 BTC [-] {4}
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13:32 deedbot- [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] In which Sam Biddle, Andy Cush, Andy Greenberg and Gwern Branwen fail to learn anything from the charred corpse of Leah McGrath Goodman, or how to tell if you’ve actually found Satoshi Nakamoto. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/09/in-which-sam-biddle-andy-cush-andy-greenberg-and-gwern-branwen-fail-to-learn-anything-from-the-charred-
13:41 adlai ;;later tell pete_dushenski PGP signatures don't prove identities to people who don't trust the keys. repeated attempts to establish trust lines to satoshi's purported PGP key have failed
13:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:44 BingoBoingo Satoshi's speshul because as alf says "has to move coins" to inspire faith in identity correspondence
13:45 adlai the best and trust-minimalest "proof-of-satoshi" is the (unspendable!) genesis coinbase
13:46 adlai he could ECDSA sign a message saying "any further coinbases were mined by impostors, frauds, and early adopters, or all three simultaneously"
13:47 adlai but this is just my opinion, and i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation
13:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00049163 = 9.1689 BTC [+] {3}
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14:17 jurov http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35025814 some are picking up coffee cans, some the real stuff
14:17 assbot Austria boy finds euro banknotes in Danube in Vienna - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nc1a3K )
14:20 jurov "i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation" orly?
14:23 * adlai at least can still put two and two together
14:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00049183 = 15.2959 BTC [+] {4}
14:34 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339477 << anthro..pogenic?
14:34 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 09:16:37; punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"
14:35 * ben_vulpes reads next line
14:35 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339493 << did you?
14:35 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 09:44:52; adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet
14:36 * adlai subscribes to the pledge of "gimme eat"
14:36 adlai and if that's lost on you... well there are some classics that were written after marie lost her head
14:38 * adlai has paid more "tax" than he'll "owe" in the next ~year, barring persistent s.mpoe trader idiocy
14:39 ben_vulpes sooo bot thinger's not making any money because dumb opponents?
14:39 adlai so far i must say, the humans have been surprisingly efficient
14:39 * ben_vulpes is struggling to parse
14:39 adlai no, if opponents are too dumb, bot makes more money than i've paid tax to cover, and i pay some more tax.
14:40 ben_vulpes > barring
14:40 ben_vulpes aha
14:40 adlai but "the whole ['opponents' thing] is a false dichotomy"
14:40 ben_vulpes oh yes?
14:41 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh?
14:41 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
14:42 adlai positive-sum wonderlands do not involve carcass-treading; they are instead eaten in a feast, with portions rationed by participation; but "everybody has a share"
14:44 jurov ben_vulpes: mp is fine with api that can be accessed by curl (but dunno if xotika is the case)
14:44 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1323485
14:44 assbot Logged on 14-11-2015 02:25:48; mircea_popescu: seriously, let the dumbass tech kids get away with this stupid shit ?
14:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00048739 = 14.6704 BTC [-] {2}
14:45 adlai ben_vulpes: see, that guy just got a better price. i wouldn't call him an opponent.
14:46 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << implies it does, jurov
14:46 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
14:46 ben_vulpes i see adlai
14:46 adlai pls reread cited sections of 'congolese trading window'
14:47 ben_vulpes ah that
14:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44946 @ 0.00048661 = 21.8712 BTC [-] {5}
14:55 kakobrekla spreading works, no also eating. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-12-03/how-dow-chemical-is-turning-sewage-into-a-refreshing-drink
14:55 assbot How Dow Chemical Is Turning Sewage Into a Refreshing Drink - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPKOEs )
14:56 ben_vulpes asked a potential hire "what do you know or believe that few people agree with you on"
14:56 ben_vulpes "cork is the sustainable bottle-stopper"
14:56 adlai lol plastics
14:56 adlai sorry, 'plastics'
14:57 ben_vulpes then followed a long explanation of the horseshit dow is putting into screw-top wine bottles and synthetic corks
14:58 ben_vulpes adlai: out of curiosity what's the difference between 'plastic' and plastic?
14:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00048644 = 11.1881 BTC [-] {2}
14:59 adlai ;;search one word ben plastics
14:59 gribble (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
14:59 adlai ;;google one word ben plastics
14:59 gribble The Graduate (1967) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061722/quotes>; The Graduate - Wikiquote: <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Graduate>; The Graduate "One Word: Plastics" - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxihhBzCjk>
15:01 adlai ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer
15:01 * adlai unearthed the "report" he wrote on the cork industry in 5th grade last night while throwing out old schoolwork
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15:37 jurov !up Casper-
15:40 nubbins` yfw vexual is satoshi
15:42 mircea_popescu amusingly, there's actually a trilema about that derp.
15:43 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-nigger-a-practical-exercise/
15:43 assbot The nigger, a practical exercise. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiHJUu )
15:45 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines << they're talented folk. just, not at anything that correlates with survival.
15:45 assbot WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )
15:45 mircea_popescu or with interesting.
15:47 mircea_popescu ok, ok
15:47 mircea_popescu !rated adlai
15:47 assbot You rated user adlai on 08-Nov-2015, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: As best as I can tell, the individual is either mentally retarded, or else expends significant mental power to emulate mental retardation..
15:47 mircea_popescu !unrate adlai
15:47 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/253aae5928c59d57
15:48 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:7bf7b818136ae3748bea3f2745f74fd0cd5edd11bef55901d7fe407672638a2d
15:48 assbot Successfully unrated adlai
15:55 mircea_popescu <ben_vulpes> << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh? << this is hate speech.
15:57 mircea_popescu <adlai> ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer << yeah, it's a very good can.
15:57 mircea_popescu just add string.
15:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25909 @ 0.00049183 = 12.7428 BTC [+] {3}
16:03 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:04 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339543 << r. gabriel was the 'worse is better' guy.
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16:04 assbot Logged on 09-12-2015 11:38:17; mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
16:04 ascii_field i once tried to read his other shit, and barfed
16:04 ascii_field 'poet'
16:04 mircea_popescu you don't really like ANY of the classics lispers do you.
16:05 ascii_field weinreb was ok before he went barmy and then died
16:05 ascii_field david moon was ok because he said nothing at all
16:05 ascii_field minsky wrote an entertaining b00k re: brain-as-multiorgan-system
16:05 mircea_popescu also not clearly from this planetg.
16:06 mircea_popescu minsky's probably the more advanced work on theoretical neurology to date.
16:06 ascii_field john mccarthy was spiffy all around
16:06 ascii_field mircea_popescu: aha
16:06 mircea_popescu now, granted that clinical neurology is still the vastly more important thing, but anyway.
16:08 BingoBoingo Not rly.
16:08 ascii_field https://cryptome.org/2015/12/xu-001.pdf <<<<>>>> http://dpaste.com/14E2BXY.txt < lulzy
16:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKyoP )
16:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiKwNu )
16:08 BingoBoingo theoretical neurology much more practical
16:09 mircea_popescu unrelatedly, it occurs to me looking through tucker max's sad history past decade (random guy on the internet, thinks "he invented a literary genus" because wrote some bland, unoriginal "debauchery stories" ; burned out of that [the tucker max makes a movie in hollywood shit was pretty lulzy] then moved on to... being an investor! burned out of that, now writing advice books on how to be the perfect mate for some woman
16:09 mircea_popescu ) that he's very much a son of his country and a man of his age. there is still a very strong vein of "guide literature" from wild west in us fiction writing to this date.
16:09 mircea_popescu it all really proceeds on the same great page of "i ain't got much lernin but i seen them buttes, here's how you too can get there!"
16:09 ascii_field recognizably aha
16:10 mircea_popescu very bizzare thing for civilised folk.
16:10 mircea_popescu i mean... this is what the village idiot would be in ro
16:10 mircea_popescu and ru for that matter.
16:10 mircea_popescu but these are places that've been continuously inhabited for a while, where the space of possibilities has been a little more explored.
16:11 ascii_field earlier link features a chinese fella on trial for supposedly pinching a priceless!11111 filesystem driver from ibm
16:11 mircea_popescu fancy that. those exist ?
16:11 ascii_field cloud!11111
16:11 mircea_popescu oic.
16:11 ascii_field and somehow a sting/entrapment op was in the mix, even
16:12 ascii_field classic usg, recommended reading for aficionados strictly.
16:12 mircea_popescu by now i suppose the prosecuting attorney will suspect the case may not seem like a "real" case w/o one.
16:12 mircea_popescu notwithstanding that the premier indicator of not-real-case is exactly "sting!!11"
16:13 mircea_popescu anywya, it bears pointing out, to round the "us www guide fiction" thread, that the donner party was the unfortunate result of that typically american literary genus, the wild west guide fiction.
16:13 mircea_popescu not EXACTLY a tall tale, like the canadians got. crazier.
16:13 mircea_popescu in the pathological sense of crazier.
16:18 BingoBoingo related http://www.slate.com/blogs/schooled/2015/12/09/rafe_esquith_famous_teacher_accused_of_sexual_misconduct_and_inappropriate.html
16:18 assbot Rafe Esquith, famous teacher, accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior in school by L.A. schools ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIdel )
16:18 BingoBoingo "perhaps the most decorated elementary-school teacher in the country, the only K-12 educator ever to receive the National Medal of the Arts—has been accused of sexual misconduct in shocking documents released Tuesday by Los Angeles Unified School District."
16:19 mircea_popescu this is like being accused of "wrecking" in the other-us.
16:20 mircea_popescu you're guaranteed to get it, the higher accomplished you are. it correlates with your visibility because the point, from the niggers' perspective, is exactly to try and make it a thing by sticking it to people.
16:20 mircea_popescu in this sense, if there's ANYONE that appears above, then that's someone above lenin. which they can't have. and so...
16:21 ascii_field 'c.
16:21 ascii_field UC-2
16:21 ascii_field asked.
16:21 ascii_field “Oh
16:21 ascii_field you
16:21 ascii_field do
16:21 ascii_field have
16:21 mircea_popescu ...
16:21 ascii_field all
16:21 ascii_field the
16:21 ascii_field code’?”
16:21 ascii_field XU
16:21 ascii_field replied.
16:21 ascii_field “Yeah
16:21 ascii_field I
16:21 ascii_field have
16:21 ascii_field all
16:21 ascii_field the
16:21 ascii_field [Proprietary
16:21 ascii_field Softwarej
16:22 mircea_popescu dem buffers.
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26850 @ 0.00049211 = 13.2132 BTC [+] {2}
16:23 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
16:24 ascii_field ty for cutting the wire in time.
16:24 ascii_field http://dpaste.com/2016J0Z.txt << the intended turdlet.
16:24 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwISfN )
16:25 mircea_popescu https://arenavc.com/2015/07/airbnb-my-1-billion-lesson/ << maybe interesting. since i'm going through all this idiocy, might as well.
16:25 assbot Airbnb, My $1 Billion Lesson - by Paige Craig ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIVbF )
16:27 ascii_field http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2015/12/gender_critical_trans_women_the_apostates_of_the_trans_rights_movement.html << from earlier fishwrap
16:27 assbot Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiMJbH )
16:28 mircea_popescu yaya im sure.
16:32 mircea_popescu the funny skit in that paige craig piece being that if paul graham and his merry band of spammers & conmen hadn't "invested", the thing would be worth tgoday what it it;'s been worth throughout : four digits in someone's shitty excel.
16:32 mircea_popescu derp wants to think that hey, this is how i got bumped out of a great deal
16:32 mircea_popescu what happened in fact however's a lot closer to http://trilema.com/2014/you-cannot-fix-a-machine-by-just-power-cycling-it-with-no-understanding-of-what-is-going-wrong/#selection-195.0-201.188
16:32 assbot "You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwJDpi )
16:33 mircea_popescu "Airbnb has of course gone on to execute exceptionally well and become what it is today."
16:33 mircea_popescu they executed... nothing.
16:34 mircea_popescu or if you will, they executed what groupon executed : a maddof in the background, in this case named graham, scammed some old ladies and wrote the details in a notebook bearing this title
16:34 mircea_popescu i suppose this matters to some, what the title is.
16:35 mircea_popescu yet the guy's own conclusion, in his own terms ?
16:35 mircea_popescu "Losing a deal like Airbnb can be painful. Great lessons came from the rejection at the very end, however. After getting the cold shoulder, I realized I needed to go out and build some valuable knowledge, needed a more robust network, and needed to craft my own brand as an investor.
16:35 mircea_popescu When I found Airbnb I was a nobody in the investing world, but I spent the next year afterward traveling around the US meeting founders and investors. I attended and hosted several dozen events and I talked to just about everybody in tech I could. I read voraciously and learned as much as possible from one-on-one conversations. I put in a full year of hard work before I did my next deal."
16:35 mircea_popescu 30 iq part of brain engaged.
16:36 mircea_popescu i'm sure "building his brand as an investor" is going to do exactly what "building her brand as an relationship expert" did for tlp's fave gori lottlieb. or whatever it was.
16:36 mircea_popescu it's not like yc will be displaced by b-a, it's like his derpy www-persona has a chance and all that.
16:36 mircea_popescu wuuut evars.
16:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00048644 = 8.3181 BTC [-] {2}
16:41 mircea_popescu heh. check this shit out "Not all investors are created equal. The winners are persistently the same relatively small groups of investors time after time. Success not only has positive signaling effects in attracting the factors that drive success, but also talent enhancing effects for the venture capitalists themselves." << now why exactly would this be ? successful sicentists aren't "always the same small group time
16:42 mircea_popescu after time". senators however are.
16:42 BingoBoingo http://journals.ama.org/doi/10.1509/jppm.14.020
16:42 assbot An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKwht )
16:43 mircea_popescu poor assbot
16:44 shinohai Here's some ass to cheer you up, assbot https://i.imgur.com/pk2nE7W.webm
16:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKNBa )
16:44 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2010/vladimir-oane-iz-meleonare/#selection-81.0-85.15 << if gabriel radio feels like translating ancient pieces on "venture capital" a la roumaine.
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16:44 assbot Vladimir Oane iz Meleonare!!! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKOoD )
16:44 mircea_popescu of course that shit exists. it's about as lulzy an affair as "romanian press" or whatever, "romanian secret services caught romanian isis agent"
16:44 ascii_field 'soviet elephants are world's biggest elephants!111'
16:45 mircea_popescu im sure there's also a paris, kentucky vc scene.
16:45 mircea_popescu guys at the local bar, you know, watching shark tank on tv...
16:45 ascii_field mircea_popescu: mega-s33kr1t: not all usian software firms are in sv..
16:46 mircea_popescu "La 27 de ani, Vladimir Oane a riscat şi a reuşit. În doi ani, a pus pe picioare o afacere prin care monitorizează diverse reţele şi oferă statistici marilor branduri. Contractele au început să curgă." <<< for the lulz. romanian "airbnb could buy all of russia" thing.
16:46 mircea_popescu ascii_field do not take the name of the dwwweb in vane!
16:46 mircea_popescu if it isn't in scamicon valley THEN ITS NOT REALLY TECHNOLOGY
16:46 ascii_field aaaha.
16:46 mircea_popescu if it were it'd spend its capital on aeron chairs.
16:46 * ascii_field has never even been there as a tourist. oughta go some day.
16:46 mircea_popescu like "real" technologies.
16:46 ascii_field before it drowns.
16:47 mircea_popescu from what i hear from the locals it used to be great
16:47 mircea_popescu back before all the midwestern carrie-bradshaw-wannabes showed up
16:47 ascii_field phun phakt: at the u.s. army derpery where i once worked, aerons were MANDATORY
16:47 mircea_popescu i guess just like new york in the 50s
16:47 * BingoBoingo hasn't been to Paris, Kentucky either
16:47 ascii_field and i had a forbidden cloth-backed chair that had to be hidden during inspections
16:47 ascii_field fire code, you see.
16:48 mircea_popescu heh
16:48 mircea_popescu i thought aerons are thread or some shit
16:48 mircea_popescu ;;google paris, kentucky
16:48 gribble City of Paris - Home: <http://www.paris.ky.gov/>; Paris, Kentucky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Kentucky>; Paris-Bourbon County Tourism: <http://www.pariskytourism.com/>
16:48 ascii_field rubberized mesh
16:49 mircea_popescu now you have, BingoBoingo
16:49 * ascii_field turned down a few sv gigs recently
16:49 BingoBoingo lol
16:49 mircea_popescu oh i see, it wouldn't be "real" top quality if it weren't shit.
16:49 ascii_field it was actually ok, didn't fall apart like every chair i've ever owned at home
16:50 ascii_field (in 3+ yrs of arse time)
16:50 ascii_field and had reasonably good pneumatics, that didn't leak air
16:50 ascii_field iirc they're about 800 usd.
16:51 ascii_field sold by herman miller furniture co.
16:55 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
16:58 nubbins` for those who are interested in matters of pedigree, i just sold a casascius coin and the buyer paid an additional 1btc to have the pgp chain of custody extended
16:58 nubbins` i expect this to be the minimum going forward
16:58 ascii_field nubbins`: do you remember the thread where i described how to trivially rape such a coin ?
16:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00049214 = 6.3732 BTC [+] {3}
17:00 nubbins` i recall a discussion in which it was posited that a device to read private key would be easy enough to make
17:02 ascii_field aha.
17:03 nubbins` the holo stickers for the 1btc silvers were too large for the space on the coin & tended to lift at the edges, making for very easy solvent insertion -- most stickers were then burned around the rim with a laser to make a fried-on messy ring that allowed the sticker to lay flatter and ostensibly would reveal tampering more easily (they still flaked, saw it with mine own)
17:03 ascii_field and you don't even need to remove the sticker.
17:03 nubbins` nope
17:03 ascii_field or physically alter the thing, or the coin, in any way.
17:03 nubbins` today, for the first time outside of casascius' blog, i see a photo of an un-lasered sticker in an auction on the gooftalk forum
17:04 nubbins` http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/12/09/PC090015.jpg
17:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwMxu4 )
17:04 nubbins` shadows, even!
17:07 nubbins` anyway, i figure counterfeits are a much more common issue going forward
17:07 nubbins` i've only seen poor quality ones in the wild so far
17:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17215 @ 0.00048582 = 8.3634 BTC [-] {4}
17:14 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> (they still flaked, saw it with mine own) << there's a reason thermosensors are made out of two different materials stuck to each other. that reason is that this problem of geometric affixing is INCREDIBLY hard.
17:15 ascii_field aha!
17:15 ascii_field check out glass-to-metal bonds sometime
17:15 ascii_field can spend a lifetime on just that.
17:16 ascii_field (was a mega-issue in vacuum valve manufacture)
17:16 ascii_field all of this will have to be re-discovered.
17:16 ascii_field j. strong's 'methods of experimental physics' covers the basics; the whole b00k is somewhere w4r3z3d in the logz.
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17:18 mircea_popescu yup
17:18 mircea_popescu and temperature envelopes are always a thing
17:18 mircea_popescu you won't ever have a "for all temperatures" bond.
17:19 mircea_popescu (which is why the way to get chewing gum out of stuff is to deepfreeze the stuff)
17:19 ascii_field aha
17:19 ascii_field nor will you, other than at some considerable expense and choice of constrained envelope - have a linear one.
17:24 BingoBoingo http://gotnews.com/6065-2/
17:24 assbot BREAKING: GotNews.com Editor-in-Chief Censored on Facebook For Discussing Muslim Terrorism - GotNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y39iGG )
17:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10774 @ 0.00048643 = 5.2408 BTC [-]
17:26 BingoBoingo http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00003.html
17:26 assbot MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y39xl2 )
17:26 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:26 ascii_field 'Twitter is a natural monopoly. Outrageous Chuck Johnson is still banned after all this time. They're showing why they need to be regulated.'
17:26 ascii_field mega-l0l
17:26 BingoBoingo lol
17:26 ascii_field it's a public utility now!1111
17:27 BingoBoingo for srs
17:32 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what other is the purpose of facebook ?
17:32 BingoBoingo I have no idea
17:32 mircea_popescu sounds a lot like the story of the man upset that he went to the brothel, and they touched him in a sexually suggestive manner.
17:33 mircea_popescu in other news, trilema used to have a fb and a twitter where some webapp (that no doubt is a great success) dumped the rss
17:33 mircea_popescu i see the facebook feed's dead, but can't be arsed to look into it
17:34 mircea_popescu about me "i found my first security holes in 1987" sooo... she's 30 ?
17:35 mircea_popescu otherwise, who's chuck johnson and what's gotnews.com
17:36 BingoBoingo He's the derp who is somewhat aligned with weev
17:36 mircea_popescu https://arenavc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/airbnb_2nd_budget.png << best lulz. srsly, this is why they need excel ?
17:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b36I )
17:36 ascii_field http://www.openbsd.org/papers/hackfest2015-pledge/mgp00035.html << win
17:36 assbot MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b3na )
17:37 BingoBoingo Johnson has occasonal moments of lucidity, but otherwise seems to largely have been caught up in the otherside of USG propaganda machine
17:37 ascii_field incidentally, how do folks actually pronounce 'airbnb' ?
17:37 ascii_field i always say 'airbnob'
17:37 ascii_field (as in door knob)
17:37 mircea_popescu http://gawker.com/what-is-chuck-johnson-and-why-the-web-s-worst-journal-1666834902 << gawker has a story on some twitter brigading or w/e.
17:37 assbot What Is Chuck Johnson, and Why? The Web’s Worst Journalist, Explained ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b5vx )
17:38 mircea_popescu still unsure why anyone'd give a shit. twitter ? wut ?
17:38 mircea_popescu ascii_field iirc they were something like averypoorlynamedbedandbreakfast.com originally
17:38 mircea_popescu could perhaps just read it out.
17:42 mircea_popescu "It’s not just Johnson’s attitude toward people of color who’ve been victimized by cops. Johnson in general likes to retaliate against certain individuals by publishing their personal information (a.k.a. doxxing). A recent example: After the New York Times published a copy of former Ferguson cop Darren Wilson’s marriage certificate, and named the street on which he used to live, Johnson published the home addre
17:42 mircea_popescu sses—down to the house and apartment numbers—of the pair of reporters who authored the Times story. The headline read: “Why Can’t We Publish Addresses Of New York Times Reporters?”"
17:42 mircea_popescu awwww.
17:42 mircea_popescu doubleplusbad.
17:43 mircea_popescu how to get the leahs all bothered up - take their online anonimity away.
17:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30968 @ 0.0004924 = 15.2486 BTC [+] {4}
17:44 ascii_field i still don't get why they care
17:44 ascii_field what happens when the address is posted? dump trucks full of shit show up ?
17:45 ascii_field anyone with fiddybux can find out, e.g., where i live
17:45 mircea_popescu it's a mental issue.
17:45 ascii_field so far not even broken window.
17:45 mircea_popescu they don't want to be what they are. that's not their real self.
17:45 mircea_popescu you can readily verify this by, for instance, asking "rape" victim if she got wet during the events.
17:45 ascii_field and 'real self' is... what? napoleon ?
17:45 mircea_popescu the physical world BETRAYS THE SACRED DREAMS OF SOCIALISM
17:46 mircea_popescu "Far more noteworthy than any of Johnson’s journalism stunts, however, is his intellectual pedigree.
17:46 mircea_popescu What do you mean?
17:46 mircea_popescu Johnson’s isn’t really a marginal or peripheral figure in mainstream conservatism"
17:46 mircea_popescu this bit is golden. 26 yo derp is a figure, of any kind ?
17:46 mircea_popescu what is this shit!
17:49 ascii_field if he were 46 - different
17:49 ascii_field ?
17:59 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
18:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00049246 = 7.9532 BTC [+]
18:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18902 @ 0.00049246 = 9.3085 BTC [+]
18:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68250 @ 0.0004838 = 33.0194 BTC [-] {7}
18:11 BingoBoingo Also in Australia http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/death-of-obese-daughter-spurs-heartbroken-parents-to-help-another-teenager/news-story/eb71cfcc0fbb1dd3e78ebb1798fd0ba2
18:11 assbot Eating disorders: Death of obese daughter spurs heartbroken parents to help another teenager ... ( http://bit.ly/1OROZeK )
18:11 BingoBoingo 254 kilograms
18:12 mircea_popescu some help.
18:17 mircea_popescu http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/01/sorry-chuck-todd-but-reporters-are-not-the-referees-of-politics/ << somewhat lulzy.
18:17 assbot Sorry, Chuck Todd, But Reporters Aren't The Referees Of Politics ... ( http://bit.ly/1ORPWDK )
18:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53799 @ 0.00049282 = 26.5132 BTC [+] {4}
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7781 @ 0.00049375 = 3.8419 BTC [+]
18:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00048243 = 11.4336 BTC [-]
18:40 BingoBoingo !up BashCo
18:40 BashCo Thanks BingoBoingo. Hi folks.
18:45 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.12854330 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin Network Hits 1 Exahash - http://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/#b11
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19:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8061 @ 0.00048243 = 3.8889 BTC [-]
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19:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44112 @ 0.00049274 = 21.7357 BTC [+] {3}
19:45 nubbins` there's a guy selling one of Carl Mark Force IV's business cards
19:45 nubbins` lewell
19:45 asciilifeform h0ly relic ?
19:46 nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1281571.0
19:46 nubbins` asciilifeform +1, it's even gilded.
19:47 nubbins` this is almost as impressive as my genesis-block copy of the times
19:57 * danielpbarron has a collection of business cards
19:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu's card is neat
20:00 nubbins` my card is neat
20:00 nubbins` hand-printed on test print paper
20:00 nubbins` each one yooneek!
20:02 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/a/G0SsJ << l0ls from the st00ge
20:02 assbot Alleged Satoshi Twitter Posts - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU3xc4 )
20:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18739 @ 0.00048243 = 9.0403 BTC [-]
20:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19611 @ 0.00048052 = 9.4235 BTC [-] {2}
20:04 nubbins` fuckin wanker
20:05 nubbins` we should try to get martin shkreli in here
20:06 asciilifeform meanwhile, the power rangerz declare that signature checking is to be done away with. ( https://news.bitcoin.com/segregated-witness-concept-turning-point-bitcoin )
20:06 assbot The Segregated Witness Concept: A 'Turning Point' for Bitcoin? - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HVFVnN )
20:06 asciilifeform because...
20:06 asciilifeform because shuddup terror15t
20:06 asciilifeform or something.
20:09 thestringpuller it's gonna be ugly
20:10 asciilifeform imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob.
20:10 BingoBoingo Another one of these http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/echo-of-the-bunnymen-how-amd-won-then-lost/
20:10 assbot Echo of the Bunnymen: How AMD Won, Then Lost | Hackaday ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU425T )
20:11 thestringpuller asciilifeform: i wonder why everyone wants to spam the blockchain so badly
20:11 thestringpuller this whole notion of 7 billion people transacting daily seems...fucktarded
20:11 asciilifeform 'From 2003 until 2006, Intel paid $1 Billion to Dell in exchange not to ship any computers using CPUs made by AMD. Intel held OEMs ransom, encouraging them to only ship Intel CPUs by way of volume discounts and threatening OEMs with low-priority during CPU shortages. Intel engaged in false advertising, and misrepresenting benchmark results. '
20:11 thestringpuller I've sent 3 transactions this year alone.
20:11 asciilifeform ^ intel & microshit, one is nothing without the other
20:12 asciilifeform 'Intel does much more than just silicon. Hidden inside their design centers are the keepers of x86, and this includes the people who write the compilers for x86 processors.' << while there is in fact an intel compiler, the article is here revealed as catastrophically braindamaged
20:13 asciilifeform 'Permanently disabling AMD CPUs through compiler optimizations ensured AMD would not quickly retake this market share.' << wtf
20:13 asciilifeform NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER
20:13 asciilifeform except for a few fortranistas
20:15 BingoBoingo Prolly Red Hat built their GCC with Intel compiler
20:15 thestringpuller i didn't know anyone still used fortran
20:15 BingoBoingo Fortran is great for WWW backends
20:15 nubbins` o.O
20:15 thestringpuller i thought you had to be 50 or older to use it
20:15 asciilifeform thestringpuller: it remains ubiquitous in the number-cruncher community
20:15 thestringpuller yea if you have gray hair
20:15 nubbins` you see some bizarre shit in industry
20:16 nubbins` i worked at a company that does ~$1bn in annual revenue, all back-end is accessed via RPG IV
20:16 nubbins` ("what's that?" exactly)
20:17 thestringpuller IBM RPG....i haven't heard that in a loooong time.
20:17 nubbins` still exists
20:17 nubbins` the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it
20:19 asciilifeform the closest thing i know of to a 'puzzle' esolang that is actually used in industry is...
20:19 asciilifeform mumps.
20:19 asciilifeform as seen here, http://thedailywtf.com/articles/A_Case_of_the_MUMPS
20:19 assbot A Case of the MUMPS - The Daily WTF ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU4yRn )
20:20 thestringpuller this is the only esolang I've used: http://esolangs.org/wiki/chef
20:20 asciilifeform 'The primary design goal MUMPS was to create code that, once written, can never be maintained by anyone ever again. The syntax is somewhat reminiscent of FORTRAN and SNOBOL (no, not the toilet cleaner), only much, much worse. Ironically, being inflicted with mumps (the disease) is much more pleasant that actually working with MUMPS (the language). A more apt name for the language certainly would have been EXPLOSIVE-DIARRHEA; I
20:20 asciilifeform ’m sure they could have even worked SNOBOL (the language, or, heck, even the toilet cleaner) in there as well.'
20:20 asciilifeform ^ not an entirely unfair description
20:20 asciilifeform but, interestingly,
20:21 asciilifeform around the time this article was written, i sat down and learned the language
20:21 asciilifeform (for a potential gig that never went through)
20:21 asciilifeform and found it to be quite a pleasant thing, in its own way
20:21 nubbins` "OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50."
20:21 asciilifeform in the msdos-and-fuck-you way.
20:24 nubbins` poor bryan
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20:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41241 @ 0.00049391 = 20.3693 BTC [+]
20:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7459 @ 0.00049414 = 3.6858 BTC [+]
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21:07 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob. <<< kinda how socialism works.
21:07 mircea_popescu revolutionize the things, end up trading your vaginal virginity for a pair of jeans
21:07 mircea_popescu and teh anal, for some tp.
21:08 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER << mediatards, whats they know.
21:09 asciilifeform it was ridiculous the first time the thing popped up
21:09 asciilifeform in, when... 2006 ?
21:09 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it << this is how it should work, actually. all the OTHER courses should be discontinued, pretty much.
21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform something like that
21:12 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> "OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50." <<< imo this is the symptom of a badly written assembler or w/e the thing is.
21:13 asciilifeform hey strict ll(1) parser
21:13 asciilifeform simplicity!
21:17 mircea_popescu except by the time you're done with paranthesizing it's no longer simple.
21:17 asciilifeform what parenthesizing.
21:17 mircea_popescu in fact the reason precedence even exists is because it's a schelling point for lazy.
21:17 asciilifeform eat one by one.
21:18 mircea_popescu well suppose i don't want 2+3*10 to yield 50
21:18 asciilifeform rpn solves this.
21:24 mircea_popescu i guess.
21:25 mircea_popescu note that if they were sane they'd have said THAT.
21:25 mircea_popescu the fact that they don't makes me... a little wary.
21:36 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
21:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 376.670799, vol: 19128.54633847 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 378.431, vol: 115.7018 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 381.402, vol: 13.52976722 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 386.30358, vol: 240304.83800000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 376.70777, vol: 10647.775584 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 384.89, vol: 172.91386498 | Volume-weighted last average: 385.23969499
21:36 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
21:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 414.79, vol: 19128.54633847 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 412.147, vol: 15552.7705 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 417.1, vol: 47160.63996846 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 13.52976722 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 425.374866, vol: 240300.28560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 412.7, vol: 289.42946321 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 423.76389, vol: 172.91386498 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
21:36 BingoBoingo ;;more
21:36 gribble 422.887495447
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22:04 danielpbarron !up nolanbugg
22:19 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.nolanbugg.9:10d6602305c3aa607c5f25a23d2e5d057b189cee4dc0cede030717ca67f1ae61
22:19 assbot Successfully added a rating of 9 for nolanbugg with note: childhood friend, known for 15+ years
22:19 BingoBoingo Welcome nolanbugg
22:20 BingoBoingo Quite an introduction
22:21 nolanbugg daniel insisted i join, it has been a long time since i have used irc
22:22 nolanbugg but it is good company to be in
22:22 BingoBoingo The only better time to join than now is the past.
22:23 nolanbugg yea, i take a long time to do anything but i feel like i have a feel for some of the personalities here, but i have plenty of catching up to do with the logs
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22:40 BingoBoingo nolanbugg: !up yourself now
22:46 mod6 ;;bc,stats
22:46 gribble Current Blocks: 387589 | Current Difficulty: 7.910238090022598E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 389087 | Next Difficulty In: 1498 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 33 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
22:47 mod6 Hey, took one guy a whole day to figure out the recipes go in the mind slot :D << lol!
22:47 mod6 could have been longer even. can't remember. *blush*
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