| 00:02 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29430125/governor-puerto-rico-near-death-spiral |
| 00:02 |
assbot |
Governor: Puerto Rico near 'death spiral' - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4CkH8 ) |
| 00:05 |
asciilifeform |
if kim jong un had balls, perhaps he'd buy it. |
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| 00:06 |
trinque |
all that guy wants to do is drink hennesy and fuck bitches. |
| 00:07 |
asciilifeform |
to be fair, pretty much everything we know about him comes from south kr (read: usg) mediatrons |
| 00:08 |
decimation |
lolz as if puerto rico was anything other than a vassal of usg |
| 00:08 |
decimation |
they can go into infinite usd debt |
| 00:09 |
asciilifeform |
(e.g., the 'uncle fed to dogs' has since been seen, the gurlphriend beheaded for starring in pr0n has been appearing in public, the footballists 'shot for losing' are playing today...) |
| 00:09 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: yes, can go into infinite debt; while usg uses the island for bomb practice |
| 00:10 |
asciilifeform |
(the one and only purpose it serves) |
| 00:10 |
decimation |
heh |
| 00:10 |
decimation |
http://www.naturalnews.com/040671_Puerto_Rico_food_stamps_SNAP_program.html |
| 00:10 |
assbot |
One-third of population of Puerto Rico now getting federal food stamps - NaturalNews.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4DD8X ) |
| 00:11 |
asciilifeform |
if they ever feel like having an actual economy (or simply switching 'sugar daddies') they know who to call |
| 00:11 |
asciilifeform |
(or do they) |
| 00:11 |
decimation |
my understanding is everyone who is worth a damn has already left |
| 00:12 |
decimation |
the only people who 'do work' are cubans who are gonna move back when castro is kaput |
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| 00:12 |
mats |
hm, TIL USG shuttered USN base in puerto rico in 2000s |
| 00:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 330 @ 0.00629999 = 2.079 BTC [-] {2} |
| 00:12 |
asciilifeform |
mats: interesting! did not know this. |
| 00:13 |
decimation |
that doesn't mean they don't occasionally drop a bomb or two |
| 00:16 |
mats |
https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eE28ONB3/ |
| 00:16 |
assbot |
Pastebin | IRCCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROoPa7 ) |
| 00:17 |
mats |
asciilifeform: got an idea? a question in ##re i am also curious about answer to |
| 00:17 |
BingoBoingo |
<decimation> that doesn't mean they don't occasionally drop a bomb or two << Puerto Rico is basically USG brown people practice range |
| 00:17 |
asciilifeform |
mats: if within bounds for relative jump, uses that |
| 00:17 |
mats |
if not? |
| 00:17 |
asciilifeform |
otherwise a decent compiler does multiple passes |
| 00:19 |
mats |
ok, thought so |
| 00:19 |
mats |
thx |
| 00:19 |
asciilifeform |
http://x86.renejeschke.de/html/file_module_x86_id_147.html << 32-bit |
| 00:19 |
assbot |
Shroud: x86 Instruction Set Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROpfxb ) |
| 00:20 |
asciilifeform |
note that 'long' (64) mode has no absolute far jump |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
or rather, has no such with immediate value |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
(you ~can~, e.g., 'jmp rax') |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
anyone for whom this question is a routine matter really ought to own the book |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
(mentioned earlier today) |
| 00:24 |
mats |
ive been studying asm for months and i still feel as lost as my first day |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
mats: the only cure is to not only read but write |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
and experiment |
| 00:24 |
mats |
like there's a superset of knowledge i'm missing |
| 00:26 |
asciilifeform |
there are at least two sub-fields here - how the machine is put together; and, what idioms are common (i.e. what does a particular compiler crap out and why?) |
| 00:27 |
mats |
alright |
| 00:28 |
asciilifeform |
mats: some of the more interesting aspects are, as always, corner cases. e.g., how does x86-64 treat self-modifying code? how does this impact cache? can unpriv. ('ring 3') code learn cache state? (to some extent - always!) etc. |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181553 << yes, there will be plenty of 'work' to be had there, re-converting the island back into a u.s. bordello as it was in batista's time; 'privatizing' and demolishing the spiffiest pharama plants in the western hemisphere; shipping the best doctors to drive cabs in nyc; etc |
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| 00:33 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 04:12:09; decimation: the only people who 'do work' are cubans who are gonna move back when castro is kaput |
| 00:35 |
asciilifeform |
i'm not certain that there ever was a ~less~ sympathetic bunch of dekulakized folks than the cuban 'refugees' in usa |
| 00:36 |
asciilifeform |
(by some versions, these are the people who gave us... bush II) |
| 00:41 |
asciilifeform |
hard to picture a sorrier bunch of bitter schmucks, eagerly taking it up the arse from history's biggest and most obscene communist mega-empire (usg) to spite their little piss-ant one |
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| 00:44 |
* |
mod6 is still going on this thing. |
| 00:44 |
mod6 |
getting close though |
| 00:45 |
mod6 |
lotta stuff this month! |
| 00:57 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah it's a fair point |
| 00:57 |
scoopbot_revived |
CUNY Keeps Bezzle Flowing to Krugman http://qntra.net/2015/06/cuny-keeps-bezzle-flowing-to-krugman/ |
| 00:57 |
decimation |
re: cubans |
| 00:58 |
decimation |
they wanna give us bush III too |
| 00:59 |
trinque |
I can think of another honorarium the republic might keep herr krugman in for entertainment purposes. |
| 01:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Vending machine later |
| 01:00 |
trinque |
I'm thinking a sort of dunking booth with better toys. |
| 01:02 |
BingoBoingo |
But this is just another quicker example of documenting the kicks |
| 01:03 |
decimation |
heh http://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe/ |
| 01:03 |
assbot |
Shiller PE Ratio ... ( http://bit.ly/1KmfAxj ) |
| 01:03 |
decimation |
S&P 500 price/earnings ratio is looking pretty toppy... |
| 01:04 |
trinque |
decimation: currency crisis or gtfo |
| 01:04 |
decimation |
!up Vexual |
| 01:04 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdcmM9T8vD4 |
| 01:04 |
decimation |
trinque: looks like the eu is trying to start one |
| 01:05 |
trinque |
so tired of waiting for the horrible missteps of that which was once styled republic to incur their cost |
| 01:05 |
decimation |
lol http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-30/uber-bonds-term-sheet-reveals-470-million-in-operating-losses < related |
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| 01:05 |
assbot |
Uber Bonds Term Sheet Reveals $470 Million in Operating Losses - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRPEIO ) |
| 01:06 |
Vexual |
bushIIIzadoozie |
| 01:07 |
Vexual |
AIIB ftw |
| 01:12 |
punkman |
http://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2015-06/0143.html |
| 01:12 |
assbot |
Curl: [SECURITY NOTICE] libidn with bad UTF8 input ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kmggmm ) |
| 01:18 |
Vexual |
ubers greek? |
| 01:19 |
punkman |
no, that's how "big in SV" works |
| 01:19 |
Vexual |
sv? |
| 01:20 |
punkman |
silicon valley |
| 01:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00046059 = 26.8063 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:22 |
Vexual |
tv here shows greeks complaining that germans don't understand greece |
| 01:23 |
mats |
like a crack dealer doesn't understand a junkie |
| 01:23 |
punkman |
german citizens about as clueless as the greeks |
| 01:23 |
Vexual |
^ |
| 01:25 |
decimation |
germans have profited for years by loaning greeks eu dollars and then selling them shit to buy them back |
| 01:25 |
decimation |
it's all just a stupid shell game |
| 01:25 |
mod6 |
Ok, just about done. And that's jsut about all for me tonight. |
| 01:27 |
punkman |
would you vote in a referendum? |
| 01:27 |
mod6 |
I did remove the original http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/ source code browser for the one that was in /test/ with the Top->Bottom graphs. |
| 01:27 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRQAgi ) |
| 01:27 |
punkman |
think I'm gonna stick to my "no voting" policy |
| 01:28 |
mod6 |
So that one should be fine now. Tomorrow, I'll update the graphs in this one: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/ |
| 01:28 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRQANi ) |
| 01:28 |
decimation |
punkman: what if the referendum were for ending the popular vote? |
| 01:29 |
mats |
lol |
| 01:29 |
decimation |
I would vote for it |
| 01:29 |
mats |
i would question reality if this came to pass |
| 01:30 |
Vexual |
you may have to |
| 01:31 |
decimation |
mats: to believe it wouldn't pass is to believe that the voter places his own interest above that of the group |
| 01:34 |
decimation |
which defeats the point of asking individuals to make a decision for the group |
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| 01:35 |
decimation |
!up Vexual |
| 01:37 |
Vexual |
i don't vote, iv'e got email |
| 01:41 |
decimation |
Vexual: compulsory voting is a contradiction. like compulsory wealth. |
| 01:41 |
Vexual |
indeed, noone must read my bullshit either |
| 01:43 |
Vexual |
poor fuck who tried to exit usa just got busted in my neck of the woods |
| 01:44 |
Vexual |
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/american-tourist-found-after-five-years-missing-in-qld-20150629-gi0xh5.html |
| 01:44 |
Vexual |
do not pass go |
| 01:45 |
decimation |
did the local cops shoot on sight? |
| 01:45 |
Vexual |
nah, but hes in custody and going home on an economy flight |
| 01:46 |
decimation |
heh "A police spokesman said the officers were investigating an unrelated matter and did not know who he was, but Mr Rodman thought the police had come to arrest him and gave himself up." |
| 01:47 |
decimation |
poor guy was obviously paranoid |
| 01:47 |
Vexual |
obviously? |
| 01:48 |
Vexual |
perhaps he was broke and homesick |
| 01:48 |
decimation |
what's the point of 'escaping' to another country if you can't enjoy yourself |
| 01:49 |
Vexual |
i wonder if he left and coin behind? |
| 01:50 |
decimation |
go to queensland and search his hovel :) |
| 01:50 |
Vexual |
im in queensland, can u link hovel? |
| 01:52 |
cazalla |
Vexual, was prob a spy and his time was up |
| 01:53 |
Vexual |
lol, everything is illegal here, but you you must confess on a bicycle to get caught |
| 01:54 |
decimation |
they were probably looking for the bum that shit on the local picnic tables |
| 01:54 |
Vexual |
lol |
| 01:54 |
decimation |
fella had a guilty conscience |
| 01:54 |
Vexual |
exactly |
| 01:55 |
decimation |
cazalla: an american spy? why would usg bother? |
| 01:55 |
cazalla |
wonder how many seppos overstay their visa anyway |
| 01:55 |
decimation |
I doubt there's anything australia knows that they wouldn't happily give away in exchange for coin |
| 01:55 |
Vexual |
fuckin loads |
| 01:55 |
cazalla |
decimation, was being facetious |
| 01:55 |
decimation |
how's that marine base going |
| 01:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94000 @ 0.00046393 = 43.6094 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:57 |
cazalla |
decimation, which one? US has quite a few bases here now |
| 01:58 |
decimation |
I guess I was thinking of the new one near darwin |
| 01:58 |
punkman |
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/06/after-bitcoin-loan-goes-south-judge-rules-man-must-repay-over-67000/ |
| 01:58 |
assbot |
After Bitcoin loan goes south, judge rules man must repay over $67,000 | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1NrEaNt ) |
| 01:58 |
cazalla |
http://www.anti-bases.org/images/AustraliaUSAbases.gif (nfi how legit this map is but seeing it fits my narrative lol) |
| 01:58 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1NrEb3T ) |
| 01:58 |
decimation |
I think obama wanted to show china how serious he was back then |
| 01:59 |
cazalla |
one day hopefully can do some urbex at pinegap |
| 01:59 |
Vexual |
lol |
| 02:00 |
decimation |
lol seismic stations |
| 02:01 |
decimation |
oh no, usg is gonna know how u shakin |
| 02:02 |
decimation |
lots of countries in the world have anti-base posters like this in local language, yet more bases seem to be the order |
| 02:03 |
Vexual |
https://www.douglasvanbossuyt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/IMG_27301.jpg <this for uberx cazalla? |
| 02:03 |
cazalla |
nah, i'd be going on dirt bike tbh |
| 02:04 |
Vexual |
good luck getting it okayed as a saloon car |
| 02:04 |
decimation |
lol is that mad max |
| 02:05 |
Vexual |
yeah pine gap shit |
| 02:06 |
cazalla |
!up Vexual |
| 02:06 |
Vexual |
cazalla might prefferent a z900 kawasaki, but they were for the baddies |
| 02:07 |
cazalla |
wouldn't it be sick if this got over the line on the last day https://bitbet.us/bet/1135/btc-to-top-350-before-1st-july/ |
| 02:07 |
assbot |
BitBet - BTC to top $350 before 1st July :: 7.39 B (10%) on Yes, 65.9 B (90%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 hours ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kqnbg1 ) |
| 02:07 |
decimation |
is it ticking up? |
| 02:07 |
decimation |
;;ticker |
| 02:07 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.79, Best ask: 267.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 267.93, 24 hour volume: 43306.98643878, 24 hour low: 249.43, 24 hour high: 267.9, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 02:07 |
Vexual |
no chance |
| 02:07 |
decimation |
heh |
| 02:07 |
Vexual |
ooh maybe |
| 02:08 |
Vexual |
lol vulves corvette is now worth less |
| 02:08 |
Vexual |
watch the unt give 0 |
| 02:08 |
decimation |
why outfit your mad max cruiser with that kind of tank? |
| 02:09 |
decimation |
drive for 24 hours without refuel? |
| 02:09 |
Vexual |
coz theres no servos |
| 02:09 |
Vexual |
yep |
| 02:09 |
cazalla |
who needs a servo Vexual when ya can carry a few tanks on a postie bike |
| 02:09 |
decimation |
bike doesn't need much gas |
| 02:09 |
decimation |
meanwhile your balls gonna fall off after hour 22 |
| 02:10 |
Vexual |
whats the range on a postie bike? 80km? |
| 02:10 |
Vexual |
refuel is 2 hrs? |
| 02:11 |
cazalla |
dunno but they go forever |
| 02:11 |
cazalla |
durable too, i'll get through any aussie terrain |
| 02:11 |
Vexual |
u owned 1? |
| 02:11 |
cazalla |
nah but a mate did |
| 02:12 |
cazalla |
i was gonna get one but got a zzr instead |
| 02:12 |
Vexual |
yeah cunts boat em to asia to continue the journey |
| 02:12 |
Vexual |
aweful beats that kwaka 250\ |
| 02:12 |
Vexual |
*beast |
| 02:14 |
Vexual |
its called a ninja now and its detuned |
| 02:18 |
Vexual |
sure its fast but the valves dont resond properly |
| 02:20 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwacyd9cqhQ |
| 02:22 |
Vexual |
top flick |
| 02:26 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDmPJc7fN4 |
| 02:35 |
Vexual |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE < shes dying |
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~ 41 minutes ~ |
| 03:16 |
punkman |
cazalla, would qntra like an article on .gr capital controls? |
| 03:16 |
BingoBoingo |
punkman: Do it |
| 03:16 |
cazalla |
if you're familiar with the situation, sure |
| 03:30 |
BingoBoingo |
punkman: If you can get it done before UTC rolls over into July you could still sneak in on the June statement |
| 03:35 |
BingoBoingo |
*in meaning in time to get published |
| 03:35 |
BingoBoingo |
But no rush |
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~ 58 minutes ~ |
| 04:34 |
cazalla |
one for BingoBoingo https://youtu.be/1_XuwM844bY?t=1m52s |
| 04:34 |
assbot |
Breaking Bias | Sarah Bramblette | TEDxNSU - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1g5v5yD ) |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 04:52 |
BingoBoingo |
God's sitting this one out |
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~ 2 hours 31 minutes ~ |
| 07:24 |
shinohai |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/29/dogecoin_app_ftc/ |
| 07:24 |
assbot |
Chap slapped in Dogecoin crap app flap • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1C4zzzC ) |
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~ 30 minutes ~ |
| 07:54 |
fluffypony |
dat dogecoin |
| 08:03 |
shinohai |
Surprising to me how long scams can stay afloat, and what people can build on top of them. |
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~ 48 minutes ~ |
| 08:52 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=30064771079 (Raphael Randschau ; Raphael Nicolai Fabian Randschau (Uni Kiel) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/97CE2FE7747AC2CFA1531450412E093BC09E40955B7193BD37F377AE1FBD3645#4526599566CBC0905AF62AF3B6A23C1801277E6A086F645C00B8E978547C848A> |
| 08:52 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1LzS295 ) |
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~ 1 hours 31 minutes ~ |
| 10:24 |
asciilifeform |
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-care-and-feeding-of-financial-black.html << pretty fine orl0l re: greece |
| 10:24 |
assbot |
ClubOrlov: The Care and Feeding of a Financial Black Hole ... ( http://bit.ly/1egCDxc ) |
| 10:25 |
asciilifeform |
'...anyone who knows mathematics can see that the United States is on the verge of collapse because its debt has gone exponential. These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique Strauss-Kahn treatment...' |
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| 10:53 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: heh. it's no secret the trouble they are all in, it's merely a matter of publically pretending otherwise - and getting the press to hop on board |
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~ 17 minutes ~ |
| 11:11 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: what's the reasoning behind the -caneat flag? |
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| 11:11 |
ben_vulpes |
i don't think that it's *unnecessary* or anything, i'm just curious as to why it needs explicit enabling. |
| 11:12 |
ben_vulpes |
curious why *you think* it needs explicit enabling. |
| 11:15 |
ben_vulpes |
"filein >> block;" << this overloaded operator still baffles me. |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 11:31 |
Jautenim |
out-of-the-box auto.sh fails to install openssl on a cleanish x86-64 ubuntu 14.04 |
| 11:31 |
Jautenim |
but dpb's fix for the pogo also werks |
| 11:31 |
Jautenim |
!s install_sw |
| 11:31 |
assbot |
7 results for 'install_sw' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=install_sw |
| 11:32 |
decimation |
^ should be the default build now |
| 11:32 |
Jautenim |
shall i submit a patch to the mailing list? it's quite a simple fix |
| 11:32 |
Jautenim |
oh k, nevermind then |
| 11:32 |
decimation |
background: openssl docs fail to generate properly, so install_sw should be used instead |
| 11:33 |
decimation |
no I mean you are right, mod6/ben_vulpes should integrate that fix |
| 11:34 |
mod6 |
nubs submitted a patch for that -- it'll be fixed in the next milestone for sure. thanks for the heads up Jautenim. |
| 11:35 |
Jautenim |
any time :) |
| 11:36 |
mod6 |
that patch is here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-April/000082.html << this patch does a few other things too, might be worth a read through though to see how it aligns with what you had already done to your own local auto.sh. |
| 11:36 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IKgFLd ) |
| 11:38 |
scoopbot_revived |
Climate change is a good thing, NOT THE APOCALYPSE, mkay? http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/30/climate-change-is-a-good-thing-not-the-apocalypse-mkay/ |
| 11:39 |
mod6 |
[ the relivant part here anyway is the alterations to auto.sh ] |
| 11:40 |
Jautenim |
yes. in fact i just s/make install/make install_sw on auto.sh |
| 11:40 |
Jautenim |
but this patch don't seem to avoid the offending makefile directive, does it? |
| 11:42 |
Jautenim |
from openssl-1.0.1g/Makefile -> install: all install_docs install_sw |
| 11:42 |
mod6 |
ah, ok yeah. |
| 11:43 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell ben_vulpes well, the model t ain't no duesenberg if that's what you mean. |
| 11:43 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 11:44 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181326 << myea. something thooper progressive like that. |
| 11:44 |
assbot |
Logged on 29-06-2015 23:47:53; ben_vulpes: ah they're probably deprecating some old api, pete_dushenski |
| 11:44 |
mod6 |
Jautenim: sorry, I had it kinda mixed up. The patch link I posted is to resolve the issue where the libs and headers don't get copied over. |
| 11:45 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-06-2015#1180292 << this is a point. mebbe 1 share per picture ? mebbe 10 ? mebbe 0. i kinda like text-based news but there's little doubt that qntra could grow its readership (if that's the intention) with more visuals. |
| 11:45 |
assbot |
Logged on 28-06-2015 07:53:07; cazalla: ben_vulpes, ay yo charts don't be earning no s.qntr shares CC: pete_dushenski |
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| 11:46 |
pete_dushenski |
;;ticker |
| 11:46 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 267.43, Best ask: 267.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 267.49, 24 hour volume: 46254.35097666, 24 hour low: 252.79, 24 hour high: 268.1, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 11:51 |
pete_dushenski |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181735 << poor straussy. all he ever did was question the use of inflation targets by central banks. |
| 11:51 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 14:25:50; asciilifeform: '...anyone who knows mathematics can see that the United States is on the verge of collapse because its debt has gone exponential. These aren't words that an American or a European politician can utter in public, and perhaps not even whisper to their significant other while lying in bed, because the American eavesdroppers might overhear them, and then the politician in question would get the Dominique |
| 11:52 |
mod6 |
<+Jautenim> shall i submit a patch to the mailing list? it's quite a simple fix << If you're in the WoT (looks like you are) feel free to submit a patch as you like. |
| 11:53 |
Jautenim |
k, I'll give it a go |
| 11:55 |
mod6 |
Salud! |
| 11:57 |
pete_dushenski |
"Cisco Systems Inc (CSCO.O) said on Tuesday it would buy OpenDNS, a privately held cloud-based security company, for $635 million in cash and equity awards to beef up its security business." << might as well consolidate the crown corps, save on letterhead. |
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| 12:00 |
pete_dushenski |
"Cenovus Energy Inc (CVE.TO), Canada's second-largest independent oil producer, said on Tuesday it has agreed to sell its portfolio of oil and gas royalty properties to Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan for about C$3.3 billion ($2.66 billion)." << speaking of deals, a big one for canada. |
| 12:01 |
pete_dushenski |
cenovus is based in alberta and it quite clearly in the crosshairs of the new socialist government and its anti-business platform that -will- include increases in oil royalties |
| 12:02 |
pete_dushenski |
"Teachers' said the latest deal offers diversification benefits and a hedge against unexpected inflation." << lol! unexpected for who ?! |
| 12:03 |
ben_vulpes |
Jautenim: yeah, i ran into that one as well |
| 12:03 |
ben_vulpes |
btw - i've yet to get boost to compile and exit 0 |
| 12:03 |
ben_vulpes |
and yet bitcoind builds |
| 12:04 |
* |
ben_vulpes quakes in boots |
| 12:04 |
pete_dushenski |
"Heritage Royalty owns about 4.8 million acres of royalty interest and mineral fee title lands in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Royalty lands are privately held oil and gas properties that are not subject to the royalties that producers pay governments for operating on publicly owned lands." << ok that's actually a super interesting detail. so cenovus is offloading the land that's -exempt- from royalties w |
| 12:04 |
pete_dushenski |
hile keeping the stuff that is. |
| 12:05 |
pete_dushenski |
i guess the offer was too sweet to pass up. |
| 12:05 |
ben_vulpes |
http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html#ak47.sh << i've been working with this. it uses bash, so less portable, but it fails on any error which makes it easier to debug, as the script exits whenever anything goes wrong |
| 12:05 |
assbot |
a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcOQRm ) |
| 12:06 |
ben_vulpes |
aand pete, i'm talking about mr. musk's overpriced station wagon |
| 12:07 |
pete_dushenski |
ben_vulpes: the 's' is the sedan, the 'x' is the suv... is the 't' the little one that's in the pipeline ? |
| 12:07 |
ben_vulpes |
ah! |
| 12:07 |
ben_vulpes |
no, i'm just retarded. |
| 12:07 |
ben_vulpes |
the model s is a betamobile |
| 12:07 |
ben_vulpes |
s/retarded/don'treallycareaboutmoderncarnamingconventions |
| 12:07 |
pete_dushenski |
ahahah |
| 12:08 |
ben_vulpes |
"o hai i bought a thooper expensive babywaggon" |
| 12:08 |
pete_dushenski |
well, things have names is all. |
| 12:08 |
pete_dushenski |
myea |
| 12:08 |
ben_vulpes |
i've no idea how i got it into my head that it was called the model t. |
| 12:08 |
pete_dushenski |
they've exploded here this summer, from 0 last year to dozens this year |
| 12:08 |
ben_vulpes |
yeah, all over here as well. |
| 12:09 |
ben_vulpes |
driven mostly by harried sunken-chested polo-shirt wearing dads |
| 12:10 |
pete_dushenski |
and parked in front of their post-post-modern duplexes with rooftop patios and pv sunshades |
| 12:10 |
pete_dushenski |
sorta the mo |
| 12:11 |
ben_vulpes |
i have to imagine that's what they drive into town from. |
| 12:11 |
ben_vulpes |
don't knock the rooftop patio mang |
| 12:12 |
pete_dushenski |
lol i'm not the one saying tesla drivers are pussies, you are ! |
| 12:12 |
pete_dushenski |
i'm as fond of rooftop patios as anyone |
| 12:12 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm just describing the car. can't really generalize about groups |
| 12:12 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/23/tesla-disputes-rumors-model-3-delay/ << mebbe the '3' sounded like a 't' in your head, ben ? |
| 12:12 |
assbot |
Tesla disputes rumors of Model 3 delay ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4zEJ7 ) |
| 12:13 |
pete_dushenski |
^it will, of course, be massively delayed. |
| 12:13 |
ben_vulpes |
http://imgur.com/6nxSOBo << today's view from the office patio |
| 12:13 |
assbot |
Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4zLEy ) |
| 12:13 |
pete_dushenski |
o hey, not too shabby at all. |
| 12:14 |
pete_dushenski |
so that's what the view from the top looks like. |
| 12:16 |
ben_vulpes |
hah |
| 12:17 |
ben_vulpes |
you can't see it for the trees, but we have clients in a building across the river that are *far* higher on the bezzletrough than us |
| 12:17 |
ben_vulpes |
we? i. |
| 12:18 |
pete_dushenski |
something to aim for ! |
| 12:18 |
pete_dushenski |
btw how goes the baby-prepping/proofing ? |
| 12:18 |
ben_vulpes |
well, ty |
| 12:18 |
pete_dushenski |
moving house, cleaning out current one ? |
| 12:18 |
ben_vulpes |
no no, staying in the current hobbit hole. |
| 12:19 |
ben_vulpes |
no sense in accelerating the hedonic treadmill any faster than is strictly necessary. |
| 12:19 |
pete_dushenski |
agreed. |
| 12:19 |
ben_vulpes |
lady v did procure a 4ft tall giraffe recently, though |
| 12:19 |
pete_dushenski |
treadmill moves plenty quickly enough without much help. |
| 12:19 |
pete_dushenski |
a cute ! |
| 12:19 |
ben_vulpes |
and one of these for like 40 bucks http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bloom-Coco-Baby-Natural-Bent-Plywood-Lounger-Bouncer-Rocker-Swing-Modern-/281466524211 |
| 12:19 |
assbot |
Bloom Coco Baby Natural Bent Plywood Lounger Bouncer Rocker Swing Modern | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4BjhL ) |
| 12:19 |
ben_vulpes |
but in maroon wood and white leather |
| 12:20 |
pete_dushenski |
huh sharp little design there |
| 12:21 |
ben_vulpes |
no plastic baby cages in my house no ty |
| 12:22 |
pete_dushenski |
he'll sleep in the bed with you then ? |
| 12:23 |
pete_dushenski |
or (wood) bassinet ? |
| 12:23 |
ben_vulpes |
yeah some cosleeping to begin with |
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| 12:24 |
ben_vulpes |
and i'm being dramatic about the plastics, there's a many-in-one stroller thing that a relative mentioned getting for us |
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| 12:24 |
ben_vulpes |
what has happened to me |
| 12:24 |
ben_vulpes |
why am i talking about bay crap |
| 12:25 |
ben_vulpes |
how about that eatblock patch? |
| 12:25 |
pete_dushenski |
lol |
| 12:26 |
pete_dushenski |
i dun think that a little plastic is the end of the world, not like we didn't grow up with it |
| 12:27 |
pete_dushenski |
sure, steel and wood carriages and cribs are better, but doesn't mean such things exist for less than $maxint |
| 12:27 |
ben_vulpes |
living well in NA is all about the art of judiciously applied delicately spun hydrocarbons |
| 12:33 |
danielpbarron |
!up wjko777 |
| 12:43 |
pete_dushenski |
!up ascii_field |
| 12:44 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell menahem lol at travis ! 1 btc for a lifetime membership to his tardsclub. as fucking if. |
| 12:44 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 12:46 |
ascii_field |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181737 << because i wished to highlight the experimental character of the whole direct block injection thing |
| 12:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 15:11:06; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the reasoning behind the -caneat flag? |
| 12:47 |
ascii_field |
and in general, when adding a peculiar and unfamiliar behaviour to bitcoin, it is good practice to place a red flip-cover around the button |
| 12:48 |
ben_vulpes |
and flip-cover for eatblock because state of running bitcoinator is mutated by its use, while the dumpblock does not mutate and so does not need a flag? |
| 12:49 |
ben_vulpes |
(and imagine my disappointment when you didn't name it shitblock!) |
| 12:52 |
ascii_field |
ben_vulpes: rename if you like! |
| 12:53 |
ascii_field |
srsly my turds aren't 'gospel', publish corrections/repaintings/etc |
| 12:53 |
ascii_field |
dumpblock is non-destructive, aha |
| 12:56 |
ascii_field |
ben_vulpes: https://ontario.westburne.ca/shopimages/canadamedia/8/0/6/8796436299806.jpg << example |
| 12:56 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GX1Mag ) |
| 13:08 |
pete_dushenski |
also http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f6/21/71/f62171fd29dd08501de7515f76540bb1.jpg |
| 13:08 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1BUCx9o ) |
| 13:08 |
pete_dushenski |
^name that car, kidz ! |
| 13:13 |
mod6 |
!up ascii_field |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 13:35 |
danielpbarron |
!up Eulorian |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
| 13:51 |
Naphex |
https://xotika.tv/#/channel115/LovelyTaya enjoy xD |
| 13:51 |
assbot |
XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FO5HSK ) |
| 13:55 |
Jautenim |
mod6: hm, I've carefully read http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev but I believe mailman is not accepting my emails |
| 13:55 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1FO6uTT ) |
| 13:55 |
Jautenim |
should it barf something back at me? I'm not receiving any feedback either |
| 13:59 |
mod6 |
ah, i don't think you're in assbot's L2. Sorry if I wasted your time. Just send the patch to me: modsix@gmail.com |
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| 13:59 |
mod6 |
plz clearsign your email, and attach a detached signature of the patch file |
| 13:59 |
danielpbarron |
he's got a +1 from MP |
| 13:59 |
mod6 |
some detals on that are here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2014-December/000022.html |
| 13:59 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1FO76so ) |
| 14:00 |
mod6 |
danielpbarron: yeah, i saw that. i thought that'd be enough. but maybe something else is up? anyway, you can send to me. I'll review, etc. |
| 14:01 |
Jautenim |
sure! i was puzzled too, thought that'd be enough |
| 14:05 |
mod6 |
<+mod6> plz clearsign your email, and attach a detached signature of the patch file << along with the patch itself i might add! |
| 14:05 |
Jautenim |
there you go |
| 14:06 |
mod6 |
perfect, thanks! |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
| 14:27 |
mod6 |
**NOTICE** I'll be updating the graphs in this: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/ in about the next ~15 minutes. So if there's a hiccup, just wait a minute or six. |
| 14:27 |
assbot |
404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1KqZV1f ) |
| 14:28 |
mod6 |
derp: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/ |
| 14:28 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1KqZX9E ) |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 14:29 |
ascii_field |
http://www.hembrow.eu/personal/necpc8201a.html |
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| 14:29 |
assbot |
NEC PC8201a laptop computer ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr04li ) |
| 14:30 |
ascii_field |
BingoBoingo and other archaeologists ^ |
| 14:30 |
ascii_field |
' the NEC still wins over most portable computers of any time for the quality of its keyboard. This is a machine for typing on, and producing content, not for consuming content... Even now, nearly 30 years after production, it still works perfectly. The larger capacity modern rechargeable AA cells means that four of these will keep it running for weeks. Astonishing battery life compared with modern devices.' |
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| 14:32 |
ascii_field |
'I plan to start using the machine again because its keyboard is superior to any other laptop that I've owned and it boots far faster than any other laptop that I've owned.' |
| 14:35 |
trinque |
neat. that thing's exactly what I've meant about a device which is only for editing buffers of text. |
| 14:36 |
ascii_field |
trinque: i've been looking for something that fits that description - while not being a piece of shit - for a decade |
| 14:37 |
ascii_field |
even bought a weird jp device, 'pomera dm20', once |
| 14:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45080 @ 0.00045047 = 20.3072 BTC [-] {2} |
| 14:38 |
ascii_field |
now it gathers dust - keyboard has three or so keys that flip the thing into jp mode, and they 'get pressed' constantly (on account of how cramped the thing is) |
| 14:39 |
ascii_field |
and before anyone links to the barfalicious 'hemingwriter' thing - just don't. please. |
| 14:43 |
ascii_field |
FUCK 3d-printed faux typewriter case, screen one has to squint at, and 'cloud' |
| 14:43 |
trinque |
what a dumb pile of hipster wank |
| 14:44 |
* |
trinque goes to forage for coffee |
| 14:44 |
punkman |
speaking of hipsters, behold http://www.usbtypewriter.com/collections/typewriters |
| 14:44 |
assbot |
USB Typewriter ~ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr1gVX ) |
| 14:45 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 14:45 |
mod6 |
ok http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/ has been updated |
| 14:45 |
assbot |
bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr1koz ) |
| 14:46 |
ascii_field |
which patches ? |
| 14:47 |
mod6 |
http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt |
| 14:47 |
assbot |
404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kr1s7G ) |
| 14:47 |
mod6 |
awe jeeze |
| 14:47 |
mod6 |
lol |
| 14:51 |
shinohai |
@ mod6 so no more manual patch applications? |
| 14:51 |
ascii_field |
wai wat?! |
| 14:52 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: that thing is intended only for eyeballs/study |
| 14:52 |
shinohai |
kk |
| 14:52 |
ascii_field |
it is not a shithub |
| 14:52 |
mod6 |
huh? no, im laughing because when I swapped the doxygens around (LR, to TB) i nuked the file that showed the patches included. |
| 14:52 |
mod6 |
and I can't find a backup |
| 14:53 |
ascii_field |
shinohai: in all cases, the canonical code is the original pedigreed and signed 0.5.3 and the sequence of signed patches which add up to a release |
| 14:53 |
mod6 |
I did it like that because the list of patch names is far too long. makes it look kinda ridiculous in the header |
| 14:55 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116000 @ 0.00045013 = 52.2151 BTC [-] |
| 14:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Stator on shittop sync'd to 200 kiloblocks |
| 15:00 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:06 |
mod6 |
well, i still had the build directory anyway. a list of patches & checksums is at the same URL nao: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt |
| 15:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GKIi5m ) |
| 15:12 |
ascii_field |
in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works |
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| 15:13 |
ascii_field |
presently, while i'm doing entirely other things, it it running pmap -XX <pid> after each eat |
| 15:13 |
ascii_field |
and saving output thereof |
| 15:13 |
ascii_field |
later this week (still gotta do my broadcast tonight...) will throw this into 'gnuplot' |
| 15:13 |
ascii_field |
unless somebody else wants to.. |
| 15:14 |
ascii_field |
the raw blocks 0...217336 sum to 5.3GB. |
| 15:15 |
ascii_field |
(actual mass of these, without ~anything~ extra) |
| 15:17 |
ascii_field |
(if this wasn't clear, this is a node running without a net connection at all) |
| 15:21 |
jurov |
hi all, was afk |
| 15:21 |
ascii_field |
jurov missed all the good stuff, l0l |
| 15:21 |
jurov |
ascii_field probably isn't aware that exactly the same thing as dumpblock output is the phoundation's bootstrap.dat |
| 15:22 |
jurov |
would be interesting to compare them |
| 15:22 |
ascii_field |
i mean, the blocks were in there to begin with |
| 15:22 |
ascii_field |
they did not come from my arse |
| 15:22 |
jurov |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117982.0 |
| 15:22 |
assbot |
[BETA] Bitcoin blockchain torrent ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqI8pi ) |
| 15:22 |
jurov |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0 lol and they managed to obsolete it already |
| 15:22 |
assbot |
[ANN] Bitcoin blockchain data torrent ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqIah6 ) |
| 15:23 |
ascii_field |
and i never imagined i was the first to ever dump blocks - i think just about everybody had some 3rd party script thing to do it with |
| 15:24 |
ascii_field |
but now one can single-step the sync, and remove just about all nondeterminism |
| 15:26 |
mircea_popescu |
ahhh |
| 15:27 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu! |
| 15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
heya. |
| 15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
dezastru ? |
| 15:27 |
mircea_popescu |
incidentally, i wonder how many times in the history of linux one has issued the command ;; |
| 15:28 |
mircea_popescu |
somehow i suspect its more common than kk |
| 15:28 |
ascii_field |
kein dezastru |
| 15:28 |
ascii_field |
but many good things |
| 15:29 |
* |
mircea_popescu is going to get top the logs just as soon as he's done hammering the seeder into shape |
| 15:29 |
mircea_popescu |
which should be soonish |
| 15:32 |
mircea_popescu |
!up ascii_field |
| 15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?" |
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| 15:33 |
mircea_popescu |
i would have inquired whether front facing fanny or rear facing fanny, but i was pressed for time sadly. |
| 15:34 |
ascii_field |
l0l! |
| 15:34 |
BingoBoingo |
<jurov> ascii_field probably isn't aware that exactly the same thing as dumpblock output is the phoundation's bootstrap.dat << As far as I'm aware the "bootstrap.dat" never got implemented in a way that worked beyond the first 2GB of blockchain on pre-v0.8 clients |
| 15:34 |
mircea_popescu |
afaik this ^ is correct |
| 15:36 |
* |
BingoBoingo spent some time dicking around with it when did OpenBSD 0.7.2 -ish build |
| 15:37 |
BingoBoingo |
Bootstrap.dat did what it was supposed to on v0.8.6 though, didn |
| 15:37 |
BingoBoingo |
't much speed up sync because verification is still CPU bound |
| 15:37 |
ascii_field |
how was it generated ? |
| 15:38 |
BingoBoingo |
I think garzick had a script somewhere I'll did |
| 15:38 |
BingoBoingo |
*dig |
| 15:38 |
ascii_field |
and i beg to differ that direct arse-to-mouth of blocks 'doesn't speed sync' |
| 15:38 |
ascii_field |
it sure as fuck does |
| 15:38 |
ascii_field |
on account of not having the hours-long bastard block doldrums |
| 15:39 |
ascii_field |
nor is mempool churning |
| 15:40 |
BingoBoingo |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145386.0 |
| 15:40 |
assbot |
[ANN] Bitcoin blockchain data torrent ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqK8Ow ) |
| 15:41 |
ascii_field |
https://github.com/jgarzik/pynode/blob/master/mkbootstrap.py << ick |
| 15:41 |
assbot |
pynode/mkbootstrap.py at master · jgarzik/pynode · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqKeFX ) |
| 15:41 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, once I got into 2013 and months crawled into taking days per any speed up wasn't much noticable |
| 15:41 |
ascii_field |
i'm speaking of ~hours~ here |
| 15:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah hours out of weeks |
| 15:43 |
ascii_field |
mno, hours total |
| 15:43 |
ascii_field |
from 0 to maxheight |
| 15:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Apparently 'cat' is fine too https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/10381/creating-my-own-bootstrap-dat |
| 15:43 |
assbot |
blockchain - Creating my own bootstrap.dat? - Bitcoin Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKW3m4 ) |
| 15:43 |
* |
BingoBoingo just be running horribru underpowered machines for this task |
| 15:44 |
ascii_field |
BingoBoingo: entirely not the same |
| 15:44 |
ascii_field |
has the 'prefix network number' bullshit |
| 15:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 15:45 |
ascii_field |
(and length field) |
| 15:56 |
mircea_popescu |
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbException' << teh sound of unhappy. i'll be doing shasums for the rest of the day by the looks of it. |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00046402 = 30.6253 BTC [+] {2} |
| 15:58 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/db.cpp#0041 << in classic 0.5.3. naturally i haven't the faintest clue re: yours |
| 15:58 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/db.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKY3ur ) |
| 15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
it's almopst always a corrupterd db |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently the "damaged in transit" thing happens o.O |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
at any rate, i posted checksums of what i personally got over the wire, earlier. |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i've been digging into all sorts of strange re this since 3 days ago, what's a bucket more. |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
ah, those don't help, obv every client makes its own blockchain set |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
all 16MB of them |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: actually! |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
blocks are canonical |
| 15:59 |
ascii_field |
recall, we have 'dumpblock' |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
yes, it follows main chain |
| 16:00 |
BingoBoingo |
Just BDB not necessarily canonical unless "detatched" |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i have never seen blknnnn of the same size even, forget the same contents |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
so it is conceivable that yours barfed on an orphaned (in the original sense) block |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: ~blocks are canonical~ |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
vanishingly unlikely. |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
that's sorta the whole point of bitcoin |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
yes i know. talking bout my own problem here! |
| 16:00 |
ascii_field |
l0l |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
hehe |
| 16:01 |
mircea_popescu |
the sorry man's world is his sorrow. |
| 16:01 |
ascii_field |
for what it's worth, all the blocks i got from mircea_popescu are successfully eaten by my 0.5.4 |
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| 16:02 |
mircea_popescu |
yeh the problem's later, 310kish |
| 16:03 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: consider preserving the turd for dissection |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
im preservin'. |
| 16:03 |
BingoBoingo |
!up ascii_field |
| 16:06 |
BingoBoingo |
!up mitzip |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
how i feel, illustrated : http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ygcdDW8U1qgvnq9o1_1280.jpg |
| 16:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IKYZPv ) |
| 16:07 |
BingoBoingo |
mitzip: You do work on funtoo? |
| 16:07 |
mitzip |
BingoBoingo: yes, but I haven't been active lately |
| 16:08 |
BingoBoingo |
mitzip: Still, great project. |
| 16:08 |
mitzip |
BingoBoingo: thanks I feel the same way :) |
| 16:10 |
mircea_popescu |
deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3RDD2F9.txt |
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| 16:10 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1IKZARb ) |
| 16:10 |
deedbot- |
accepted: 1 |
| 16:21 |
ascii_field |
$ sha256sum ~/.bitcoin_mp_strange/blk0001.dat |
| 16:21 |
ascii_field |
7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a |
| 16:22 |
ascii_field |
$ sha256sum ~/.bitcoin_ok/blk0001.dat 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a |
| 16:22 |
ascii_field |
^ from a node synced in february |
| 16:22 |
ascii_field |
'mp_strange' is the data set discussed earlier |
| 16:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00046668 = 9.987 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:23 |
ascii_field |
either mircea_popescu, or i, or both, is suffering from 'cosmic rays' |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
uh. |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe this is half-deterministic somehow ? did you make them on the same build ? |
| 16:24 |
ascii_field |
0.5.3 variants |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
odd, they really shouldn't match |
| 16:25 |
ascii_field |
mp_strange was on the 'stator' build |
| 16:25 |
ascii_field |
why shouldn't they match ? |
| 16:26 |
mircea_popescu |
cuz bdb strange |
| 16:26 |
ascii_field |
these aren't bdb files! |
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| 16:26 |
ascii_field |
they're blkxxxx.dat format |
| 16:26 |
ascii_field |
nothing to do with bdb |
| 16:27 |
ascii_field |
http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#1527 |
| 16:27 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1eYAiIi ) |
| 16:31 |
ascii_field |
http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h#0771 |
| 16:31 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1IL2dm4 ) |
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~ 20 minutes ~ |
| 16:51 |
BingoBoingo |
Google, not the Rebel Flag is the real racist http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/06/30/google_s_image_recognition_software_returns_some_surprisingly_racist_results.html |
| 16:51 |
assbot |
Google's image recognition software returns some surprisingly racist results. ... ( http://bit.ly/1eYCQ9s ) |
| 16:52 |
trinque |
lol! |
| 16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
it's ok, google has letter from stalin. |
| 16:52 |
mircea_popescu |
stop being racist. |
| 16:54 |
trinque |
While Google’s efforts to solve this problem are admirable, it’s still troubling that it happened at all. As Alciné wrote on Twitter, “I understand HOW this happens; the problem is moreso on the WHY.” << oh for fuck's sake |
| 16:55 |
trinque |
someday soon they're going to start calling this kind of shit something as stupid as "micro-terrorism" |
| 16:55 |
* |
trinque tries to come up with a more fitting euphemistic propaganda term |
| 16:58 |
trinque |
neh I like micro-terrorism... there it stays |
| 16:59 |
trinque |
http://www.uwsp.edu/acadaff/NewFacultyResources/NFSRacialMicroaggressions_Table.pdf << lawl |
| 16:59 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1eYDELx ) |
| |
~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 17:24 |
asciilifeform |
!up ascii_field |
| 17:24 |
ascii_field |
mircea_popescu: if you have any other nodes of this kind, consider posting the hash |
| 17:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17221 @ 0.00046918 = 8.0797 BTC [+] |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ascii_field atm re-doing filecopying. |
| 17:36 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181836 <<< the plastic shit is everywhere :\ |
| 17:36 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 16:24:21; ben_vulpes: and i'm being dramatic about the plastics, there's a many-in-one stroller thing that a relative mentioned getting for us |
| 17:40 |
cazalla |
and even if you don't buy it or try to limit it, well intentioned friends and family try to load you up with all manner of shit |
| 17:41 |
shinohai |
Possible r/bitcoiner? http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/06/portland_man_arrested_for_viol.html#incart_most-read_ |
| 17:41 |
assbot |
Portland man arrested for violent tantrum after seeing Comcast worker in bedroom | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5wi8U ) |
| 17:42 |
BingoBoingo |
shinohai: Likely |
| 17:42 |
cazalla |
don't you ever touch a white man's modem |
| 17:43 |
shinohai |
Nah he was probably being defensive because he was afraid they would find his My Little Pony playset or something. |
| 17:43 |
cazalla |
he does look like an mlp fag eh |
| 17:44 |
shinohai |
I have only seen the Comcast guy 2 times in 5 years in this place I live. |
| 17:48 |
shinohai |
There is a slight spelling error in this document: http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt |
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| 17:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1U5xA3A ) |
| 17:49 |
BingoBoingo |
!s electrum |
| 17:49 |
assbot |
189 results for 'electrum' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=electrum |
| 17:49 |
trinque |
shinohai: I noticed that as well |
| 17:49 |
trinque |
"oppinion" |
| 17:49 |
shinohai |
^ |
| 17:49 |
* |
shinohai is a spelling Nazi |
| 17:50 |
mats |
http://gcc.godbolt.org |
| 17:50 |
assbot |
Compiler Explorer ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5xWay ) |
| 17:50 |
mats |
found it just in time for my education |
| 17:50 |
trinque |
ah that's cool |
| 17:51 |
trinque |
UI's a little dumb |
| 17:51 |
trinque |
I tend to call that periscope UI |
| 17:51 |
trinque |
where you're looking through a tiny window at some scrollable thing |
| 17:51 |
trinque |
needs moar pixels |
| 17:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Anyone try running electrum-server yet against Foundation 0.5.3.1 or later build? Once stator on craptop syncs on craptop I plan on seeing if they get along |
| 17:54 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.01227109 = 1.2271 BTC [-] {6} |
| 17:55 |
trinque |
!up CheckDavid |
| 17:55 |
CheckDavid |
when I want to talk here I never manage to get voice lol |
| 17:55 |
shinohai |
@ BingoBoingo I did but I failed :/ |
| 17:55 |
trinque |
CheckDavid: pm someone voiced when that happens |
| 17:55 |
shinohai |
Heaven't tried in a while though. I was drunk. |
| 17:56 |
trinque |
!gettrust CheckDavid |
| 17:56 |
assbot |
CheckDavid is not registered in WoT. |
| 17:56 |
BingoBoingo |
shinohai: Ah. If you try again let me know what they errors were like. Still prolly have a month or so before craptop finishes sync |
| 17:56 |
shinohai |
craptop ? |
| 17:56 |
trinque |
!h |
| 17:56 |
assbot |
http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot |
| 17:57 |
trinque |
CheckDavid: ^ |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181614 @ 0.0004773 = 86.6844 BTC [+] {4} |
| 17:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52186 @ 0.00048707 = 25.4182 BTC [+] |
| 17:58 |
shinohai |
@ BingoBoingo I have been able to run it against termcoin, which I don't recommend as a real wallet. |
| 17:59 |
BingoBoingo |
shinohai: Was recently gifted second laptop. Single core AMD 64bit atom-like processor. Testing stator 0.5.4 build, once sync'd will likely dick around with electrum server against a foundation build with aim of eventually setting up a dedi-box |
| 18:00 |
shinohai |
I have a dedi server for foundation use if we do get electrum running |
| 18:04 |
* |
BingoBoingo hoping I don't have to make a bunch of patches to the RPC for this to work |
| 18:05 |
shinohai |
The only issue I had was importing private keys, but I solved that. |
| 18:07 |
cazalla |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181952 <<< perhaps a rash on her pussy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLnPKUPE4yo |
| 18:07 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 19:33:05; mircea_popescu: in even further news, overheard in the street like an hour ago : "mommy, mommy! is it a good sign when your fanny itches ?" |
| 18:07 |
assbot |
Larry David - Curb Your Enthusiasm "Pussy Rash" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5AyFs ) |
| 18:07 |
trinque |
^gross |
| 18:08 |
* |
trinque commits microaggression against the differently-hygiened |
| 18:10 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market buttchina |
| 18:10 |
gribble |
BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 262.746045, Best ask: 262.88298, Bid-ask spread: 0.13693, Last trade: 262.775043, 24 hour volume: 31846.62470000, 24 hour low: 256.037841, 24 hour high: 268.3926, 24 hour vwap: 262.529039618 |
| 18:20 |
mats |
microterrorism, foo |
| 18:22 |
cazalla |
making up your own microaggression is nanoaggresion mats |
| 18:23 |
cazalla |
and anyway, people in this channel make gigaaggressions |
| 18:23 |
mats |
we'll leave it to twitter to decide wut is wut |
| 18:25 |
punkman |
lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxwLt_UEAAbmcL.jpg |
| 18:25 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1U5DBxa ) |
| 18:26 |
shinohai |
I'll bet r/bitcoin had that CNN feed up praying that it triggers mass Greek adoption. |
| 18:27 |
punkman |
Greece has barely even adopted credit cards |
| 18:33 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45225 @ 0.00048728 = 22.0372 BTC [+] {2} |
| 18:40 |
shinohai |
hue, motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-is-unsustainable?trk_source=homepage-lede |
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| 18:40 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Is Unsustainable | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5GPkq ) |
| 18:43 |
jurov |
BingoBoingo: electrum did require patches even in 0.8 |
| 18:43 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah |
| 18:44 |
shinohai |
hmm |
| 18:48 |
BingoBoingo |
https://i.imgur.com/haY5dyt.png |
| 18:48 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1U5IgiI ) |
| 18:48 |
BingoBoingo |
^ Free to be Liberia |
| 18:51 |
cazalla |
that pic isn't really a fair representation of the problematic hambeasts |
| 18:53 |
cazalla |
needs more coloured hair, piercings, tats, triple chins and no dress sense |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 19:18 |
trinque |
"That makes Bitcoin about 5,033 times more energy intensive, per transaction, than VISA" << what a crock of shit |
| 19:18 |
trinque |
you have to count every payment processor in the whole byzantine credit card system if you're going to play that game |
| 19:19 |
trinque |
^ from BingoBoingo's motherboard article |
| 19:25 |
decimation |
^ plus all the bureaucrats who work for visa/banks/usg to 'oversee' the system |
| 19:25 |
decimation |
and the care, feeding, coddling thereof |
| 19:28 |
shinohai |
That same tired argument has echoed from every supporter of PoS for as long as I can remember. |
| 19:35 |
scoopbot_revived |
Current Greek Capital Controls http://qntra.net/2015/06/current-greek-capital-controls/ |
| 19:41 |
trinque |
lol... goxxed |
| 19:49 |
BingoBoingo |
Goxxed indeed |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 20:15 |
asciilifeform |
so it turns out that i spoke too soon: |
| 20:15 |
asciilifeform |
some time near after 208000, a block is rejected! |
| 20:16 |
asciilifeform |
re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182007 |
| 20:16 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 20:01:39; ascii_field: for what it's worth, all the blocks i got from mircea_popescu are successfully eaten by my 0.5.4 |
| 20:16 |
asciilifeform |
presently running the entire experiment again, to verify |
| 20:16 |
asciilifeform |
the best-case scenario is that this is a 'cosmic ray' |
| 20:16 |
asciilifeform |
thing was running on a portable, in a knapsack, in a car... |
| 20:17 |
mod6 |
will this have any impact on the hashes that are posted here? http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz |
| 20:17 |
asciilifeform |
will run those again also |
| 20:18 |
asciilifeform |
on the output of the present 'eat' |
| 20:18 |
mod6 |
ok cool |
| 20:18 |
asciilifeform |
it'll be hilarious if we're hitting the limits of non-ecc ram or the like |
| 20:19 |
asciilifeform |
sha256(blk0001.dat) for this run: 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a |
| 20:19 |
asciilifeform |
(same as for all my synced 0.5.3's) |
| 20:19 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.bitpixr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/image27.jpg << "Fart Rape" |
| 20:19 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1CHN570 ) |
| 20:20 |
asciilifeform |
if anyone can remember what blocks fit in there, please post |
| 20:21 |
mats |
http://nytimes.com/2015/06/30/opinion/the-supreme-courts-lonely-hearts-club.html |
| 20:21 |
assbot |
Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1CHNaHN ) |
| 20:22 |
trinque |
BingoBoingo: bahaha fart rape |
| 20:22 |
mats |
http://www.indieshuffle.com/lewis-del-mar-loud-y |
| 20:22 |
assbot |
[LISTEN] Lewis Del Mar - Loud(y) :: Indie Shuffle ... ( http://bit.ly/1CHNiqG ) |
| 20:25 |
mod6 |
i have 3 full-sync'd chains from between January and March, all have the same blk0001.dat hash: sha256sum blk0001.dat \ 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat |
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| 20:25 |
trinque |
BingoBoingo: I thought it was gonna be somebody being face-sat |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/reduced-final-state-blk0001-dat-with-pruned-index.59545 |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
^ he got 7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a as well |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
claims 188529 blocks |
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| 20:28 |
* |
asciilifeform has not verified the latter |
| 20:30 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu ^^^^ |
| 20:39 |
* |
asciilifeform has the same ill feeling an astronomer might have were 'seti' signal to appear |
| 20:39 |
asciilifeform |
'is it my instruments? lsd in the water?' |
| 20:40 |
asciilifeform |
~3 hours from now, will know... |
| 20:40 |
asciilifeform |
and this is just about my copy, not even starting with mircea_popescu's |
| 20:43 |
BingoBoingo |
* asciilifeform has the same ill feeling an astronomer might have were 'seti' signal to appear << We've outgrown everything but Z80+ECC and somehow that is too slow |
| 20:43 |
asciilifeform |
z80 never supported ecc |
| 20:44 |
asciilifeform |
(technically, one ~could~ retrofit it, with some glue logic) |
| 20:46 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181921 << the experiment in question, for anyone who missed |
| 20:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 19:12:49; ascii_field: in other nyooz, 'dumpblock' for the sums.txt.gz mircea_popescu set 0..n and subsequent 'eatblock' in brand-new stator - works |
| 20:48 |
asciilifeform |
the only thing i'm pretty sure of at this point is that nothing peculiar happened - at least on this machine - through block 188529. |
| 20:48 |
asciilifeform |
(checksum spoken of earlier agrees with every copy of blk0001 i've been able to locate, other than the one cited by mircea_popescu) |
| 20:51 |
phf |
is it possibly non-determenism from a dozen or so places where size_t is read into int? |
| 20:51 |
asciilifeform |
phf: it is difficult to rule anything out at this point |
| 20:52 |
asciilifeform |
one might naively imagine that obvious bugs cirta '12 will not turn up today |
| 20:52 |
asciilifeform |
but devil only knows |
| 20:52 |
asciilifeform |
*circa |
| 20:54 |
asciilifeform |
original purpose of this experiment was to gather 'pmap -XX <pid>' stats for plotting |
| 20:55 |
asciilifeform |
it did not even occur to me that the 'eater' might barf |
| 20:56 |
asciilifeform |
i set it up earlier today and mostly forgot about it |
| 20:56 |
asciilifeform |
(recall, in a 'bastard-free' bitcoind - which is what i have - no block can be 'eaten' unless it squarely agrees with its immediate antecedent block) |
| 20:57 |
asciilifeform |
in the 'longest chain' sense |
| 20:59 |
* |
asciilifeform is trying and failing to think of a benign explanation for the anomaly |
| 21:00 |
phf |
right, eatblock/dumpblock lets you construct any arbitrary correct chain, block by block, including the known blockchain, in a fully deterministic way. seem like important building blocks of proper engineering. |
| 21:01 |
asciilifeform |
phf: why these were absent from the original bitcoin is still an enigma to me |
| 21:01 |
* |
shinohai applauds |
| 21:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00046004 = 13.3642 BTC [-] |
| 21:17 |
* |
BingoBoingo would really like box powered by 3GHz Z80 with ecc and 64 bit address space bolted on |
| 21:23 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1307/4681642407_3537daf466_b.jpg |
| 21:23 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1R35pDn ) |
| 21:24 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Exactly. That is one beautiful machine fulfilling its destiny to do REAL work. Not this pansy shit 'Murican pickup trucks do. |
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~ 24 minutes ~ |
| 21:49 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: do you have the complete blockdump file? |
| 22:00 |
asciilifeform |
of course |
| 22:01 |
decimation |
can share? |
| 22:01 |
asciilifeform |
will, once i find a place to drop these where i'm not paying per byte |
| 22:01 |
decimation |
hehe |
| 22:01 |
decimation |
how big is it? |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
the dataset in question - blocks pulled from mircea_popescu's node on the night of june 28-29 - is ~5.5GB |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
the sha512 checksums were posted earlier |
| 22:03 |
decimation |
pity, that's a big too large for a cutout dropbox account |
| 22:03 |
asciilifeform |
it should not be difficult to find out, right now, if you have the same blockchain |
| 22:03 |
decimation |
good point. |
| 22:04 |
asciilifeform |
if i replicate the anomaly, i will post the 'interesting' region |
| 22:04 |
asciilifeform |
thing is just about past 177000 now |
| 22:04 |
asciilifeform |
but the blocks are starting to get fatter there |
| 22:05 |
asciilifeform |
the 'magic moment,' whatever its nature, happened well into blk0002 |
| 22:08 |
decimation |
?? block 2 is bad? |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-07-2015#1182166 |
| 22:08 |
assbot |
Logged on 01-07-2015 00:28:50; asciilifeform: claims 188529 blocks |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
^ in blk0001 |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
blk0002 - a certain number, certainly smaller, after that |
| 22:09 |
decimation |
oh you mean the bdb files? |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 22:09 |
decimation |
interesting. |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
these aren't bdb though! |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
they're raw blocks |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
bdb only stores indices |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
which are derived from blocks |
| 22:09 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu made same mistake earlier |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182036 << see thread |
| 22:10 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 20:26:24; ascii_field: these aren't bdb files! |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
this is an important point |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
they have nothing to do with bdb and should not vary at all (once they reach full size, ~2GB) between nodes |
| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
(well, certainly not after longest-chain is established) |
| 22:14 |
decimation |
lol he dumps to disk directly |
| 22:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h#0932 << required reading |
| 22:14 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1JrxIEC ) |
| 22:15 |
decimation |
yeah I was looking at that |
| 22:15 |
asciilifeform |
http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#0643 << and. |
| 22:15 |
assbot |
Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jry6TC ) |
| 22:18 |
decimation |
what does he use the database for then? faster lookup? |
| 22:18 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 22:18 |
asciilifeform |
otherwise you'd have O(N) |
| 22:19 |
asciilifeform |
same reason anybody uses a db for anything.. |
| 22:19 |
decimation |
yeah, but why also save flat file |
| 22:20 |
asciilifeform |
because ultimately it is the canonical blockchain. |
| 22:20 |
decimation |
7aac5826b91b4f87a2e9534e0e38e8d64ed21aff8a4eb8ff8dde4e726e67fe1a blk0001.dat |
| 22:20 |
decimation |
same as yours |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
well, anomaly didn't happen in that one |
| 22:21 |
asciilifeform |
(except possibly on mircea_popescu's box...) |
| 22:21 |
decimation |
796f65be10ef2e5fc27b97b09f312c9f8ddd7d1c3ab0f27f356a5b1dbf5a8963 blk0002.dat |
| 22:22 |
decimation |
these were made with your thermonuke patch |
| 22:23 |
asciilifeform |
^ is the same on the ~original~ (that is, received on that night from mircea_popescu) copy |
| 22:23 |
decimation |
okay, that's good I guess |
| 22:24 |
decimation |
what happens at block 188529 |
| 22:25 |
mod6 |
all three of my chains from Jan-Mar 2015 have: 796f65be10ef2e5fc27b97b09f312c9f8ddd7d1c3ab0f27f356a5b1dbf5a8963 blk0002.dat |
| 22:28 |
decimation |
blk0001.dat and blk0002.dat have the same size as this thread (at the bottom) https://bitcointa.lk/threads/reduced-final-state-blk0001-dat-with-pruned-index.59545/ |
| 22:28 |
lobbesbot |
New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=5 (ptpt52; Chen Minqiang's Personal Signing Key; Chen Minqiang (The only way out is through) ; Chen Minqiang (The only way out is through) ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/238717B355D356430E5CDD3730EF66DCD17DDFC96EE34C38AE150007E7BE3786#6DEA41C50052C0B4B3D1F8AE399743EB610DEC07DCA478A6AA4C935AA2AC0286> |
| 22:28 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1JrCWjS ) |
| 22:29 |
decimation |
2097361271 blk0001.dat 2097295438 blk0002.dat |
| 22:29 |
decimation |
heh |
| 22:30 |
mod6 |
104fca0e11fa866172414852b6e6ead095926eb7a283dc3169420a17e6b87cfb blk0003.dat |
| 22:31 |
decimation |
my blk3 differs |
| 22:31 |
decimation |
from that thread I mean |
| 22:31 |
decimation |
^my blk3 matches mod6's |
| 22:33 |
BingoBoingo |
lobbes: I'm liking you bot |
| 22:37 |
mod6 |
0856eedd40c7f5a1d78aec7480dc9861c2e0354aae75b72613aaffcf606a99ef blk0004.dat |
| 22:43 |
mod6 |
lol, im now doing 5-16 on all three chains at the same time: 02:42:27 up 2 days, 3:32, 5 users, load average: 2.88, 1.48, 0.71 |
| 22:44 |
mod6 |
93e2d9ee02bf3fdd68d7809e353cec3bca93e54d3c382a286093ac6666c21ce3 blk0005.dat |
| 22:47 |
mod6 |
853a817eb6b644d3a75d0954c723f23e0d23fa6ec143e3cdc23a774c59c710ad blk0006.dat |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1182019 << uhoh |
| 22:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 30-06-2015 20:10:22; mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3RDD2F9.txt |
| 22:48 |
mod6 |
e287f88803660c5f9fd99e9cdfcc5d7e4c38da953652efbbd2382f64441dba7c blk0007.dat |
| 22:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00045477 = 16.781 BTC [-] {2} |
| 22:50 |
asciilifeform |
^ not a single one of these lines up with mircea_popescu's |
| 22:50 |
mod6 |
yeah, i don't have any of those. |
| 22:50 |
decimation |
^ mine match them all |
| 22:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00045013 = 3.2409 BTC [-] |
| 22:50 |
mod6 |
mine were sync'd with some pre-v0.5.3.1-RELEASE [ v0.5.3 + some patches ], sync'd the old way from irc. |
| 22:51 |
mod6 |
*seeded via irc |
| 22:51 |
decimation |
I'm afraid it's gonna take going over with a fine-tooth comb |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
now my current understanding is that mircea_popescu has an excuse: |
| 22:51 |
mod6 |
decimation: yours match mine, or mp's lis? |
| 22:51 |
mod6 |
*list |
| 22:51 |
decimation |
matches yours |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
if his blk** are ~original~ - as in, they were formed ~as the blocks happened~ - they can contain orphaned (in the traditional sense) blocks |
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| 22:52 |
decimation |
yeah that's true |
| 22:52 |
asciilifeform |
but any subsequent sync against his node is expected to match the canonicals. |
| 22:52 |
decimation |
gonna have to 'reingest' them to sort them out |
| 22:53 |
asciilifeform |
notice that there is no mechanism in bitcoind for ~erasing~ anything from the raw block files. |
| 22:54 |
mod6 |
huh, now i have one chain that has 2 that match and one that differs: f7ab989febce649e49f8373f1c5a5fbd44008dd21eaf16ce0d1b73e1070421f0 blk0008.dat && b1d0da3ff6b2b2d6da096f06cf7359ca98e08490ab61202f94468587f51aaee5 blk0008.dat |
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| 22:54 |
decimation |
no, but you could antimate a node, peer with it, force it to shit out |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: differs ~while being complete~ ? |
| 22:55 |
mod6 |
and all 3 of my blk0009.dat's do not match |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
that is, the differing files are followed by another ? |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
(because if sync is not complete, then naturally last blk**** will differ) |
| 22:56 |
decimation |
yeah if it's the last file, it's incomplete |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 22:56 |
mod6 |
these were fully sync'd up to ~320`000 blocks or so. they were shutdown after full sync was achieved. each goes upto like blk0017.dat |
| 22:57 |
mod6 |
fa97f9f51bd130758910563ad7976014736b8b8ec021ed9f5dbc3c4b87d3703a blk0009.dat | 2f7acbd7b5603a845a5d380ffb6ff3be051ab8b192ae143b0916a07564d5cbc5 blk0009.dat | 1631edac873633135b9eb9b8214d6d2b30d708d00ec4dd1db6a9bf09f384551b blk0009.dat |
| 22:57 |
decimation |
mine stops at blk0008.dat |
| 22:57 |
mod6 |
on a fully sync'd node? |
| 22:58 |
mod6 |
whats the full size of your blockchain? mine's like ... ~38Gb |
| 22:59 |
mod6 |
82397e804874de4709faa07515f6bedbeaa4b1cdc49846b96742bba925bad1cb blk0010.dat | d2bf09e41b6177d6f44a5b7983954c647ac2c983ac39af2e159261e8737f4662 blk0010.dat | baa5bbcdb388d707398d00de95df8d3c5d98d716842d1eea7ea51f3d4ed40695 blk0010.dat |
| 22:59 |
mod6 |
seems to diverge for me starting with blk0008.dat |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
8d8c80c9677d59856eb3ebb2e9d87ff2bc4cd416f02ae6d4d925e031fffb82e1 blk0001.dat |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
ebbeef1641ca8b921652577f4917ad2f7391cb5067b7857819ed4a5fb4a35091 blk0002.dat |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
c125ab7cbdf64b9d14c26adcc7638b2e7a62879cdd64a8897bbdb494360162569 blk0003.dat |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
^^^ from my box circa 2013 ! |
| 23:03 |
mod6 |
huh. yours dont match ours or mps |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
with ecc ram, no less |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
and raid5 |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
(the latter with nightly parity checks!) |
| 23:05 |
decimation |
with orphans? |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
almost certainly |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
(for the same reason as mircea_popescu's) |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
they were moved from an earlier disk, where the thing was going from late 2010 |
| 23:05 |
asciilifeform |
iirc |
| 23:10 |
* |
asciilifeform observes that the 'eater' has completed blk0001 |
| 23:10 |
asciilifeform |
is presently past 189070 |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
anomaly has not recurred yet |
| 23:11 |
asciilifeform |
(but is not expected for a while) |
| 23:12 |
asciilifeform |
sha256(blk0001.dat) is equal to the expected value. |
| 23:12 |
asciilifeform |
(on the 'eater' node) |
| 23:12 |
mod6 |
18704088cd8518a05e173648622bdc86e695e6e551a9e669179dd26b4e40aab5 blk0011.dat | 18704088cd8518a05e173648622bdc86e695e6e551a9e669179dd26b4e40aab5 blk0011.dat | c39eeb00ee4489722f82f53667a71584aa571913c6c0116017682ed508e5adcd blk0011.dat |
| 23:13 |
mod6 |
bdabb513c4ced2b592897757d1a137263f7d709a86040c41772288caea55fb14 blk0012.dat | bdabb513c4ced2b592897757d1a137263f7d709a86040c41772288caea55fb14 blk0012.dat | 7da33b5bc03fcba571b854172938f000a9d5241757f3b186de93da34ddcb889f blk0012.dat |
| 23:14 |
mod6 |
35069477afe178861ddfe9d686625801e20fcb66b89d87b4a2730925aefd20a0 blk0013.dat | 35069477afe178861ddfe9d686625801e20fcb66b89d87b4a2730925aefd20a0 blk0013.dat | 25def233a2fa1c177169c74789070dc08de127b8447c7ee0784a8735353a42f8 blk0013.dat |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: where are the 3rd items in these triples from ? |
| 23:14 |
asciilifeform |
anything peculiar about that node ? |
| 23:15 |
mod6 |
0a7c6b1127af5f47afe3138eb206c736d8452256826d0c3e030c5cd8c289b6e6 blk0014.dat | fc6f19747098be62ccadffda61c7c302d57748e05d2de95f5ee226ac250c71e5 blk0014.dat | fc6f19747098be62ccadffda61c7c302d57748e05d2de95f5ee226ac250c71e5 blk0014.dat |
| 23:16 |
mod6 |
so one of them seems to be more screwed up than the others. but there were blocks like blk0009.dat & 10 where all were different. |
| 23:16 |
mod6 |
one was done in january, one in february, and one in march. |
| 23:16 |
mod6 |
january was pre SSL 1.0.1g |
| 23:16 |
asciilifeform |
this is probably when i say that it will be necessary to walk the blocks. |
| 23:17 |
asciilifeform |
and compare individual ones |
| 23:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00046595 = 5.2652 BTC [+] |
| 23:21 |
mod6 |
yeah, totally agree. |
| 23:22 |
mod6 |
im suprised they diverged that much. |
| 23:22 |
mod6 |
i would have though with all the same version (pretty much) that they would have all been the same hashes. |
| 23:22 |
asciilifeform |
~recent~ syncs diverging is almost certainly a product of enemy fire |
| 23:22 |
mod6 |
glad I looked at that |
| 23:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64550 @ 0.00048971 = 31.6108 BTC [+] {3} |
| 23:23 |
decimation |
yeah, gotta take it block by block |
| 23:25 |
decimation |
the question is, how do we make a portable tool to suck blocks from bitcoin nodes? |
| 23:26 |
decimation |
something that parses .dat files? |
| 23:26 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: one way is what i'm doing |
| 23:26 |
asciilifeform |
but it's a bit slow |
| 23:26 |
decimation |
yes true |
| 23:26 |
asciilifeform |
there is a python thing floating around, iirc |
| 23:26 |
asciilifeform |
can try that. |
| 23:26 |
asciilifeform |
alternatively, write own (format is pretty simple) |
| 23:26 |
mod6 |
yah, there's asciilifeform's way, and there's that python thing |
| 23:27 |
asciilifeform |
alternatively wait for me, but i'm up to my ears in backlog of work |
| 23:28 |
asciilifeform |
where the hell is mircea_popescu |
| 23:29 |
asciilifeform |
at this rate, he's gonna miss ragnarok. |
| 23:30 |
asciilifeform |
(then again, this ragnarok will still be there tomorrow..) |
| 23:32 |
phf |
fwiw dumpblock is expensive, because walks blockchain in order. a "dumpdb" that iterates over mapBlockIndex and does ReadFromDisk/<< for each block might be a reasonably fast way to split .db into separate block files |
| 23:32 |
asciilifeform |
phf: by far the simplest possible way is to simply walk the binary |
| 23:32 |
asciilifeform |
iirc, it is [mainortestchainflag][length][blockdata] repeated again and again |
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| 23:33 |
phf |
oh, bah |
| 23:33 |
asciilifeform |
consult the src (linked earlier in this thread) |
| 23:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41750 @ 0.00049034 = 20.4717 BTC [+] |
| 23:42 |
midnightmagic |
asciilifeform: What does 'enemy fire' mean? |
| 23:42 |
asciilifeform |
midnightmagic: the details remain to be learned |
| 23:43 |
midnightmagic |
asciilifeform: Why do you call it "enemy fire" and why are you certain it is that? |
| 23:44 |
asciilifeform |
if you want certainty, you will have to wait. |
| 23:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68100 @ 0.00049172 = 33.4861 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:46 |
decimation |
midnightmagic: what do you think it means |
| 23:47 |
asciilifeform |
see also the sacramental http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-11-2014#932006 |
| 23:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 23-11-2014 05:22:35; kakobrekla: mircea_popescu no the question was did someone abuse the britneychain |
| 23:49 |
midnightmagic |
decimation: I'm not sure. That's why I'm asking. |
| 23:49 |
midnightmagic |
asciilifeform: I don't want certainty. I'm fine with wild speculation actually. |
| 23:50 |
asciilifeform |
then go, speculate. |
| 23:51 |
midnightmagic |
asciilifeform: Congratulations on making simple interaction so expensive. |
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| 23:52 |
midnightmagic |
.. for literally no gain. |
| 23:55 |
decimation |
;;ticker |
| 23:55 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 261.77, Best ask: 261.79, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 261.78, 24 hour volume: 44409.17613371, 24 hour low: 258.0, 24 hour high: 269.0, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
midnightmagic: For tremendous gain |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
| 23:58 |
BingoBoingo |
midnightmagic: God is sitting this one out, All we have is math. |