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00:01 trinque if you presuppose my involvement in some agreement between other people, you've presupposed me right out of the conversation in both cases!
00:01 trinque lol
00:01 trinque if I haven't signed something, it has been forced upon me
00:02 trinque to state the obvious
00:02 funkenstein_ to quote noone you are likely to consider sane, you signed up when you chose to be born
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00:03 trinque the social contract is religious bullshit
00:05 funkenstein_ !up Vexual
00:05 Vexual hi hi
00:06 funkenstein_ I'm not sure what the social contract is. As you point out, I didn't sign it
00:06 Vexual oysters cost 0 if you find them
00:06 trinque or "you are not your own but were bought at a price"
00:06 trinque corinthian's something something
00:06 trinque or any other such brainwashing which precludes my own decisionmaking
00:06 decimation trinque: but in that case Paul is referring to those who believe in Jesus
00:07 trinque sure and my parents had me baptised
00:07 trinque so I'm his bondslave for life according to this or that interpretation of folk legends
00:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46602 @ 0.00039935 = 18.6105 BTC [+]
00:08 decimation if your point is that your salvation is involuntary, I don't think that is correct, but Christians do disagree on this point
00:09 trinque point is people with mouths can declare anything at all
00:09 trinque that doesn't mean that I acknowledge it
00:10 decimation indeed. yet, you were born, fed, taught, and you will die.
00:10 trinque when someone says "there is a social contract" that's just a backdoor way of saying "you shall accept the implications of there being a social contract"
00:11 trinque I might revise that further to "I shall force you to behave as though there were such a thing as a social contract."
00:12 trinque though the "I" in the sentence may not be the speaker
00:12 funkenstein_ so what behavior are we talking about here?
00:14 decimation trinque: note that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism, that doesn't make their socialism Christianity (as loudly as they might protest otherwise)
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00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51956 @ 0.00038944 = 20.2337 BTC [-]
00:17 trinque decimation: I grant that
00:19 trinque wouldn't it be nice for a man to call a command a command, so you know what freedom you actually have
00:19 trinque if any.
00:20 trinque the destruction of the language in order to convince slaves they are not slaves costs far too much
00:21 Vexual such acrux
00:22 trinque decimation: I've heard it called "stealing your stolen from" around here, and it's exactly on the mark
00:23 trinque so then going back to the "state", if the "state" is this, then a "state" is *not* the aggregate of agreements made by free men
00:23 trinque might be nice to give that one it's own word
00:24 funkenstein_ in practical use, the state is whatever the guy with the gun tells you it is
00:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26655 @ 0.000404 = 10.7686 BTC [+] {2}
00:28 trinque funkenstein_: things are what they are, though we may be forced to call them otherwise
00:32 funkenstein_ yhwh wasn't interested in this new testament stuff
00:33 funkenstein_ trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks
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00:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51981 @ 0.00040768 = 21.1916 BTC [+]
00:39 funkenstein_ while we're here, http://www.theonion.com/video/onn-exclusive-one-on-one-interview-with-god-37236
00:39 assbot ONN Exclusive: One-On-One Interview With God - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ie5mul )
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02:42 punkman !up Vexual
02:43 Vexual hello
02:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53100 @ 0.00039158 = 20.7929 BTC [-]
02:44 Vexual whats for breakfast punkman?
02:45 punkman tea and crumpets
02:47 Vexual hmm, sounds like london
02:48 Vexual no fried haloumi?
02:49 punkman I do have a piece left, maybe for lunch
02:49 Vexual im jealous
02:50 punkman don't fry it though, better toasted/grilled
02:52 Vexual noted
02:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67430 @ 0.00039978 = 26.9572 BTC [+]
02:54 punkman punkman's salad suggestion: purslane, rocket, cherry tomatos and grilled haloumi
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02:55 Vexual what would you serve that with?
02:58 punkman can't go wrong with steak
02:58 Vexual if i cant find purslane?
02:59 punkman then you gotta buy some seeds
03:00 Vexual lol, but im salivating
03:01 Vexual ill ask the asians for a tropicaal quqivalent
03:02 Vexual bok choi stems maybe
03:02 Vexual snapper is in season too
03:04 Vexual watercress?
03:05 punkman well anything will do, it's salad
03:06 Vexual sounds good
03:08 punkman any snail farmers down under?
03:08 Vexual maybe in tas or melb
03:08 Vexual you eat em?
03:09 punkman not too often, I got a box of them fattening up though
03:09 punkman fry them with garlic and rosemary
03:09 Vexual ive never tried
03:10 Vexual i dont think theyd grow here, never see wild ones
03:11 Vexual what do they eat? old lettuce?
03:11 punkman white flour
03:12 Vexual do they prefer dampper, or just flour?
03:12 Vexual do you make it into dough and cook it?
03:13 punkman !up Vexual
03:13 punkman no the box gets pretty gross
03:17 Vexual id rather a box of ducks to be hosnest, but id eat it
03:23 Vexual do you wash them?
03:24 Vexual or does the slime go into the sauce?
03:24 punkman gotta give them a scrub, and check for casualties
03:27 Vexual ok im salivating, thanks for the recipies, im off to raid a southerners letterbox
03:27 punkman in other news https://musalbas.com/2015/06/14/e-detective-security-advisory.html
03:27 assbot Security advisory - E-Detective Lawful Interception System ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSIWTY )
03:27 punkman "The .tar file must be encrypted with the static key /tmp/.charlie. Yes, that's the actual key - the software passes the wrong argument to OpenSSL. -K is used to pass the keyfile instead of -kfile, meaning that the key is the path of the keyfile rather than the contents"
03:28 Vexual failing that ill buy a snapper
03:33 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHbGtiVUEAAwfM9.jpg
03:33 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSJl8S )
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05:17 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163790 <<< c'mon, i even dropped it back to once a month instead of the twice monthly update.. i find the mining diff stuff interesting in anycase
05:17 assbot Logged on 14-06-2015 13:57:09; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163764 << lol, do we get a newspiece every time this happens? 'you're older than you've ever been and now you're even older, ..., and now you're older still!' (tm) (r)
05:17 scoopbot_revived CoinJar COO Ryan Zhou Caught Impersonating Dice Site's Developer http://qntra.net/2015/06/coinjar-coo-ryan-zhou-caught-impersonating-dice-sites-developer/
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05:21 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHe8hHRWIAAG_6z.jpg "Apologies if you've already seen a raccoon riding an alligator today."
05:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tni7M3 )
05:35 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164104 <<< that is vile
05:35 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 01:10:08; BingoBoingo: Fupa Duped https://i.imgur.com/s4OD455.jpg
05:38 cazalla still training BingoBoingo?
05:39 BingoBoingo cazalla: Still working in that direction
05:39 cazalla i had another sober weekend so half way there to a sober month of June
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05:40 BingoBoingo Last weekend banged up my knee and wrist pretty bad in a unknown incident while drunk, which lead to a slowdown last week but not a cessation of activities
05:41 cazalla damn, must've been blind
05:42 cazalla i'm feeling so good i even banged the missus twice and here i thought it was cause i long ago grew tired of her, must've been the booze after all
05:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36350 @ 0.00040363 = 14.672 BTC [+]
05:45 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164256 <<< no red onion?
05:45 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 06:54:38; punkman: punkman's salad suggestion: purslane, rocket, cherry tomatos and grilled haloumi
05:46 cazalla i don't mind a bit of holy flax too
05:47 punkman flaxseed?
05:49 cazalla nah, Santolina rosmarinifolia
05:49 cazalla they also call it olive herb down under
05:51 punkman don't think I've tried that one
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06:17 cazalla it pretty much tastes like olives
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07:01 jurov for good measure(and smell) don't forget some bear garlic foliage(allium ursinum).
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09:31 davout ;;later tell mircea_popescu pls to x.eur
09:31 gribble The operation succeeded.
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10:19 pete_dushenski ;;later tell ben_vulpes best papamobile is two-seat papamobile ! bold (and beautiful) play !
10:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
10:20 pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo aha yes. wd there !
10:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
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11:09 pete_dushenski " When a retired 51-year-old military man disclosed in a U.S. security clearance application that he had a 20-year affair with his former college roommate's wife, it was supposed to remain a secret between him and the government."
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11:10 pete_dushenski what on earth would possess one to disclose such a thing on a fucking application form, in triplicate...
11:10 pete_dushenski " The man had kept the affair secret from his wife for two decades before disclosing it on the government's innocuously named Standard Form 86 (SF 86), filled out by millions of Americans seeking security clearances. "
11:11 pete_dushenski "The SF 86 form, which is 127-pages long, is extraordinarily comprehensive and intrusive. "
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11:12 pete_dushenski of course, the database has been... hacked.
11:12 pete_dushenski by the chinese!
11:12 pete_dushenski or mebbe somalians. tough to say at this point.
11:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 157000 @ 0.00041113 = 64.5474 BTC [+] {2}
11:13 punkman http://fusion.net/story/149831/opm-hack-happened-to-me/ " It is like an Orwell nightmare."
11:13 assbot I am one of the millions affected by the OPM hack | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0F5Ew )
11:13 pete_dushenski punkman: lel
11:13 pete_dushenski ""It's kind of scary that somebody could know that much about us," said a former senior U.S. diplomat, pointing out the ability to use such data to impersonate an American official online, obtain passwords and plunder bank accounts."
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11:13 pete_dushenski no shit sherlock.
11:14 pete_dushenski turns out that when you spill the beans to a piece of paper in a drawer, someone can go in and read that piece of paper !
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11:14 pete_dushenski seriously, what are the chances of this NOT happening.
11:15 pete_dushenski slim, i'd say.
11:17 pete_dushenski "I’m also worried they are going to identify agents in law enforcement." << exactly the plot of 'spy', this.
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11:18 pete_dushenski database hacked by , agent identity and locations revealed, cover blown,
11:19 pete_dushenski *by 'terrorists'
11:19 pete_dushenski only solution is to put landwhale deskjockeys into the field !
11:20 jurov ppl will do anything for 'good' job. i'm fully expecting to see alf grappling with this someday
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11:21 jurov access to golden toilet vs. anal probing clearance
11:22 punkman "Weird 64MB favicon.ico turning out to be a TAR backup of the whole WP site, downloaded by every browser passing by... "
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11:24 pete_dushenski punkman: eh ? how's that work ?
11:25 punkman I guess you just rename your .tar to .ico
11:26 pete_dushenski "In 2010, LEGO unleashed LEGO Universe, a massive, multiplayer game where builders of all ages could create whatever they wanted on their own digital plots. Well, almost anything: LEGO didn’t want any of the players to endow its online world with penises. After all, it was meant to be a kid-friendly place in which phalluses had no role—even its mini-fig citizens were dickless."
11:26 pete_dushenski heh. 'lego universe' is the un-eulora.
11:26 pete_dushenski punkman: ah ok.
11:26 jurov you were able to build penis in eulora? how?
11:26 jurov *craft
11:26 jurov or show, whatever
11:26 pete_dushenski "Management “wanted a creative building MMO [massively multiplayer online-game] with a promise of zero penises seen,” tweeted Megan Fox, a developer who worked on the project,"
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11:27 pete_dushenski jurov: i was more thinking along the lines of the upskirt angle
11:27 pete_dushenski "We were asked to make dong detection software for LEGO Universe too. We found it to be utterly impossible at any scale.”"
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11:28 pete_dushenski lolk this is priceless
11:28 pete_dushenski http://fusion.net/story/143218/lego-universe-had-a-huge-dong-detection-problem-says-former-developer/
11:28 assbot LEGO Universe had a huge 'dong detection' problem, says former developer | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0Icwk )
11:28 punkman heh
11:31 punkman https://bugcrowd.com/programs/points-only "kudos per bug"
11:31 assbot Bugcrowd | Your Elastic Security Team, better security testing through bug bounties and managed security programs ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0IHqh )
11:39 asciilifeform jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164365 << bit of a contradiction here? 'good job' is precisely where there is a minimum of hours-doing-things/unit-of-pay
11:39 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:20:49; jurov: ppl will do anything for 'good' job. i'm fully expecting to see alf grappling with this someday
11:39 jurov why a contradiction? i imagine most jobs at NSA to be such
11:39 asciilifeform jurov: not exactly. they make you work a full shift, for instance.
11:40 jurov aha
11:40 asciilifeform as in, gotta actually show up there
11:40 asciilifeform and without own computer or just about anything but clothes on back
11:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00039707 = 17.8682 BTC [-] {2}
11:44 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164348 << i finally found and read it, for this occasion. found nothing which obviously demands that one disclose a fucktoy as such
11:44 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:11:29; pete_dushenski: "The SF 86 form, which is 127-pages long, is extraordinarily comprehensive and intrusive. "
11:44 asciilifeform evidently the derp did this on own free will.
11:44 pete_dushenski just like shrem. just like 17yo isis twerp.
11:45 pete_dushenski they had the choice and made the wrong one.
11:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125900 @ 0.00041734 = 52.5431 BTC [+]
11:45 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164361 << depends on what one means by 'agent.' afaik, mere stoolies don't fill out forms.
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11:45 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:17:55; pete_dushenski: "I’m also worried they are going to identify agents in law enforcement." << exactly the plot of 'spy', this.
11:46 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164367 << where ?
11:46 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:22:49; punkman: "Weird 64MB favicon.ico turning out to be a TAR backup of the whole WP site, downloaded by every browser passing by... "
11:46 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164345 << between him and microshit, aha
11:46 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:09:25; pete_dushenski: " When a retired 51-year-old military man disclosed in a U.S. security clearance application that he had a 20-year affair with his former college roommate's wife, it was supposed to remain a secret between him and the government."
11:47 pete_dushenski and google, apple, amazon, paypal, banks, etc.
11:48 pete_dushenski as if there were a magical 'great wall' that kept out the mongols behind their keyboards
11:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70700 @ 0.00041734 = 29.5059 BTC [+]
11:50 asciilifeform from the pov of the chumps, the more sinister aspect, as always, is the non-cryptographic concept of identity used in nato reich, where folks can actually impersonate you if they know a handful of basic biographical facts
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11:51 pete_dushenski sin, passport #, dob alone are likely sufficient from most purposes
11:51 pete_dushenski including loans, no doubt.
11:52 asciilifeform ultimately usg 'department of plenty' ~really~ wants money to get borrowed. whether you in particular like to borrow money or not. if some 'helpful' nigerian can do it in your name, so much the better from their pov.
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11:52 asciilifeform see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-06-2015#1157053
11:52 assbot Logged on 08-06-2015 04:27:15; asciilifeform: i, for instance, would much like to publicly register as 'anyone who walks in with my name and slave serial number and tries to take a mortgage, ever, is to be shot immediately'
11:53 asciilifeform hence also the utter lack of meaningful asymmetric crypto in bank cards, etc.
11:53 pete_dushenski ah yes, the 'low barrier to entry' policy
11:53 pete_dushenski making loans accessible
11:55 pete_dushenski on the consumer side, there's little need for concern either as it's assumed (since it's been demonstrated in the past) that the scamee will be made whole
11:55 pete_dushenski from whence it matters not.
11:55 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: this is a grave misconception
11:56 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i have not personally scammed in this particular way, but watched colleagues deal with the fallout of 'xxx bought a house in your name'
11:56 pete_dushenski i had my credit card number lifted in chicago a few years back, sekoority centre called me to ask about a few purchases, which i hadn't made, they cancelled the card on the spot and refunded me the charges.
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11:56 asciilifeform it is - at miniumum - a mountain of paperwork, dragging on for years
11:56 pete_dushenski mind you, cc is much smaller scale than mortgage
11:56 pete_dushenski a few hundred vs. a few hundred k
11:56 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: lifted cc #s are so routine as to be an automatic writeoff for the bank, unless it was an outlandishly posh cc
11:57 asciilifeform with 100k+ on it
11:57 * pete_dushenski doesn't have amex black or equivalent
11:58 asciilifeform point being, the 'made whole' thing is 1) not guaranteed by any means 2) presupposes that the victim's ~time~ is worth nothing
11:58 pete_dushenski also, time to jet for me. ciao bellas !
12:00 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164378 << can we also suppose that there was a 'cunt patrol', which succeeded in its mission and remains secret ?
12:00 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:27:59; pete_dushenski: "We were asked to make dong detection software for LEGO Universe too. We found it to be utterly impossible at any scale.”"
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12:15 punkman asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164367 << where ? << dunno, URL was censored
12:15 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:22:49; punkman: "Weird 64MB favicon.ico turning out to be a TAR backup of the whole WP site, downloaded by every browser passing by... "
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13:24 menahem http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164421 << same happened to me in Chicago. Person balled out at Payless with like $80.
13:24 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:56:08; pete_dushenski: i had my credit card number lifted in chicago a few years back, sekoority centre called me to ask about a few purchases, which i hadn't made, they cancelled the card on the spot and refunded me the charges.
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14:24 thestringpuller http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/39xdf3/bitstamp_withdrawal_17_days_and_counting_no/ << burnside resurfaces
14:28 mircea_popescu i take it the unsolicited redrawing of mpex on toilet paper by kindergartners did not end up selling for the "very modest" five digit figure he had in... for lack of a better term, mind ?
14:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125433 @ 0.000419 = 52.5564 BTC [+]
14:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2542 @ 0.000419 = 1.0651 BTC [+]
14:42 mircea_popescu http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/05/17/sailor-death-bahrain-balcony-farragut/27483591/
14:42 assbot Sailor dies in Bahrain after fall from balcony ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz6N0t )
14:52 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-i/#comment-114533 << people still working on the ~fallout~ :D from that article.
14:52 assbot The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume I on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz7Op3 )
14:54 mircea_popescu seriously, as far as the "public opinion" is concenred, "there exists a weapon that has never been used on account of it being too effectual". something that happened with nothing never, the celts used iron weapons and the europeans used machine guns and everything in between that actually worked and was actually useful was actually used. and not a little used. USED. ubiquitously used, the franks re-engineered their en
14:54 mircea_popescu tire societal relations to make room for the horse on the battlefield.
14:54 mircea_popescu and yet...
14:59 mircea_popescu ugh... wrong fucking link. i meant http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/#comment-114526
14:59 assbot On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz8yuy )
15:00 Naphex !up dooglus
15:01 mircea_popescu and in Naphex news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrmr7k6kpn1qd2dcwo1_r1_500.gif
15:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qz8J99 )
15:01 Naphex :))
15:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76129 @ 0.00041556 = 31.6362 BTC [-] {4}
15:01 mircea_popescu lol
15:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164079 << it certainly is more mind altering than a long term alcohol habit.
15:05 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 00:25:07; jurov: "Also, programmers can also attest to the fact that long-term coding is very much a tantric, mind-altering endeavor."
15:06 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164089 << because you're not on the stuff the guy's smoking
15:06 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 00:32:11; jurov: dunno why I find it so funny
15:06 ben_vulpes mebbe in that it'll drive you insane..
15:06 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164101 << lul WHAT THE SHIT
15:06 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 01:03:44; asciilifeform: 'Shortly thereafter, officers who had been working undercover to catch citizens attempting to self-serve, swarmed in to arrest the mostly nude man – but not before Mapes took down 3 of the 6 officers by himself.'
15:07 mircea_popescu how is "working undercover" what you do when you sit around in a gas station "trying to catch people who self serve" ? this isn't even lance corporal, whaty officer.
15:07 BingoBoingo https://falkvinge.net/2015/06/15/launching-new-reporting-service-682-writers-editors-managers-wanted-for-part-time-yes-youll-get-paid-and-paid-well-launch-now-operational-in-q3/ << lol qntra ripoff
15:07 assbot Launching New Reporting Service – 682 Writers, Editors, Managers Wanted For Part-Time. Yes, You’ll Get Paid, And Paid Well. Launch Now, Operational In Q3. - Falkvinge on Infopolicy ... ( http://bit.ly/1cWAUfC )
15:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo for as long as fiat financing lasts, everyone gets to pretend they're the most serene republic.
15:07 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes exactly what i meant.
15:08 BingoBoingo "publishes all news as shareable images, thereby bypassing a large number of restrictions and limitations, not needing clickbait, and being immune to adblock – but also paying people well, using bitcoin" << And completely ignoring the MP doesn't read text as images
15:09 mircea_popescu lol immune to adblock.
15:09 mircea_popescu "we've seen teh weird web technologies deployed on 8chan last month and we figure it's actual magic"
15:12 mircea_popescu anyway, someone should tell falkvinge to gtfo in here and stop being retarded.
15:12 mircea_popescu he's not THIS stupid, no need to fake it.
15:13 BingoBoingo Dude prolly figures since oldmedia pays him more attention than it does mp, that he can just mash two mp ideas together and herptiy derp and whistle while he twerks
15:13 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164125 << sounds just like pretty much every smart woman ever. what exactly is "failed " ?
15:13 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 02:47:59; decimation: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-557568/I-love-girl--Im-control-boasts-fallen-child-genius.html < smart folks are maybe also not always wise?
15:14 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo maybe. there should be a new word, "low functioning intelligence". the exact counterparty to high functioning autism
15:14 mircea_popescu when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain.
15:16 BingoBoingo Sounds like an actual problem. I'd consider tossing him an invite, but he's a complete stranger. All I know him as is the pirate trying to make a qntra... but special needs.
15:16 mircea_popescu he had some rather on point comments re bitcoin's end game in 2012
15:16 mircea_popescu i think i even commented on his site at some point
15:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69850 @ 0.0004107 = 28.6874 BTC [-]
15:18 BingoBoingo I have vaguely familair with the name being said places, but the context is unknown to me.
15:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164136 << the question is misstated in that it assumes an alternative is needed. "what is the alternative to bell bottoms???".
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15:21 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 03:24:29; decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163996 < but what is the altnerative to the state?
15:21 mircea_popescu needn't have "an alternative to monarchy" in terms monarchy'd comprehend. ditto re state.
15:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88930 @ 0.00042374 = 37.6832 BTC [+] {2}
15:22 mircea_popescu the proposition that "religion === morality" or "state===society" or "monarchy===worldview" etc is so much smarmy pretense.
15:22 mircea_popescu if the state went away tomorrow nobody'd even notice.
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15:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3970 @ 0.00042581 = 1.6905 BTC [+]
15:25 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164143 << the state is neither.
15:25 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 03:32:36; decimation: sure, but in the end they all involve a peice of actual real estate with an actual physical structure
15:25 BingoBoingo !Up HeySteve
15:25 scoopbot_revived France Demands Google Extend "Right to be Forgotten" to Global Domains http://qntra.net/2015/06/france-demands-google-extend-right-to-be-forgotten-to-global-domains/
15:25 HeySteve hey, thanks BingoBoingo
15:25 mircea_popescu it pretends, and apparently convincingly, to be either or both, but it is neither. for that matter, koreans believe "the party" is equal to "the atmosphere". what of it.
15:25 mircea_popescu how goes.
15:26 HeySteve well thanks, how are you?
15:26 mircea_popescu not bad.
15:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164147 << you will know the leper by his sores. "the state" is any arrangement which pretends that the use of violence is under "its" monopoly.
15:27 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 03:37:49; decimation: not a literal us state here, state = government
15:27 mircea_popescu this has exactly zero to do with governance in the general case.
15:27 HeySteve today's luls courtesy of America: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-15/lying-white-african-american-naacp-president-resigns-shocked-focus-her-race
15:27 assbot Lying White 'African American' NAACP President Resigns Shocked By Focus On Her Race | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1Igdfzu )
15:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164153 << im not even sure.
15:28 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 03:42:37; decimation: but someone has to claim the land, and people need a place to sleep
15:28 BingoBoingo !up ag3nt_zer0
15:28 ag3nt_zer0 thanks!
15:28 mircea_popescu iroquis worked fine without anyone "claiming the land". fine enough for the us to try and copy off them everything they didn't understand from french anyway
15:28 danielpbarron BingoBoingo, "Google has made undeniably made an effort" remove the first 'made' ?
15:30 danielpbarron also, "whether its has" should be 'it' ?
15:30 ag3nt_zer0 question: does it matter what email provider I use for GPG setup? I tried to set it up with Tutanota but cannot set it up with thunderbird and enigmail which i suspected but wasn't sure until I tried... I shudder to maintain any connection to google or yahoo, but does it matter with GPG?
15:32 mircea_popescu if you run gpg correctrly, whic his to say locally, use plaintext email
15:37 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164175 << he is wrong. the state becomes necessary when people who aren't willing to kill if it comes to it wish to pretend they're still people.
15:37 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 03:51:29; funkenstein_: malcolm x says the state becomes necessary when one needs to separate those who have from those who have not
15:38 HeySteve sounds like the justification for a communist state
15:39 mircea_popescu it does ?
15:39 ag3nt_zer0 ok ty mircea_popescu I am pretty confused... I have been following contravex guide - so is that preparing me to run locally? Or is utilizing enigmail through thunderbird attached to a gmail account no longer local? And is it just more secure to use plaintext over html? So much to learn...
15:40 mircea_popescu anyway, malcom x correctly identified "the state is this thing which fucks us over", but he thought it's about money (ie, what he didn't have) rather than about cocksize (ie, what the people actually employing it didn't have).
15:40 mircea_popescu whenever you see a cripple walking on a crutch, it's a good idea to think the crutch as compensation for HIS shortcoming, not yours.
15:40 mircea_popescu this, of course, is still uncharted territory in the mental map of the fifth millenium.
15:41 BingoBoingo ag3nt_zer0: Just encrypt and then paste into a mail client
15:41 mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 the fewer things involved, the less available to break. and yes, what he said.
15:41 ag3nt_zer0 ok thanks guys
15:41 mircea_popescu we routinely pass messages here as dpaste for instance
15:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31275 @ 0.00042581 = 13.3172 BTC [+]
15:41 BingoBoingo ag3nt_zer0: But mail client beats webmail, because webmail fuck up line endings and spacing
15:42 BingoBoingo ag3nt_zer0: Claws is a good email client, but do your email writing and reading outside of it and encrypt/decrypt outside of it
15:42 BingoBoingo Don't want plaintext leaking into your drafts folder...
15:43 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Both fixed
15:44 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164195 << no, obama's daughters have signed up to suck my cock when they were born. i signed nothing.
15:44 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 04:02:58; funkenstein_: to quote noone you are likely to consider sane, you signed up when you chose to be born
15:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50750 @ 0.00042601 = 21.62 BTC [+] {2}
15:44 mircea_popescu see how nicely this works ?
15:44 mircea_popescu also the jews signed to like gas when they were born.
15:44 ag3nt_zer0 ok, thanks for the help guys, and please forgive the derpage, but I suppose this means do not use something like the enigmail add-on?
15:45 ag3nt_zer0 I will check out claws too thanks BingoBoingo
15:45 mircea_popescu ag3nt_zer0 you'd be the first one here to use it.
15:45 asciilifeform what's with the folks who 'need' the automated email-pgp things? are they still using 2-button mice ?
15:45 ag3nt_zer0 hehe
15:45 trinque what's a mouse
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15:46 asciilifeform trinque: that thing you sometimes use to move crud between x11 terms
15:46 trinque haha, oh right
15:46 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i doubt most people realise security is not an app
15:46 BingoBoingo Also one of the greatest weapons of the shitgnomes is burying people in bad choices
15:46 mircea_popescu hey, it worked for wallmart...
15:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not quite. all the 'bad choices' are really many faces of one god, upon the most casual examination
15:47 mircea_popescu that sounds pretty jewish
15:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course, but what is one to do when they first encounter berries in the wilderness?
15:48 ag3nt_zer0 So I got a raspberry pi and am hoping that noodling around with this device will correct some of these fundamental misunderstanding I have...
15:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: look for the dead animals ?
15:48 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Russian are prettty well culturally jewish.
15:48 trinque ag3nt_zer0: what is it that you want to learn?
15:48 mircea_popescu esp in odessa
15:48 asciilifeform aga
15:49 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It's nature the dead animals don't last long before other animals see the phree protein
15:49 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164500 << not quite. in unstable 'racial yugoslavias' like usa, 'state' is the apex predator. if it goes to sleep for just one day - the place burns
15:49 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 19:22:29; mircea_popescu: if the state went away tomorrow nobody'd even notice.
15:49 decimation how would the iroquis mint chips? how would they arrange for more than 5000 humans per sq mile?
15:50 asciilifeform 50
15:50 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164216 << the difference between jewish religion and communism is slight. the pretense christianity is anything but an (intellectually lesser) jewish sect is ridoinculous. and so here we go.
15:50 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 04:14:07; decimation: trinque: note that many people would replace orthodox Christianity with some kind of warmed-over socialism, that doesn't make their socialism Christianity (as loudly as they might protest otherwise)
15:50 mircea_popescu decimation are you putting formal constraints on human happiness noiw ?
15:50 ag3nt_zer0 Trinque, well some basic programming would be a good place to start I think... a more fundamental understanding of the history of the cypherpunk movement, encrytion fundamentals, etc, anything that will allow me to be something more than a slave
15:51 decimation all human happiness is relative
15:51 mircea_popescu "how would they solve the prob lem solved by chips" ios one question.
15:51 mircea_popescu "How would they make X" is another.
15:52 asciilifeform ag3nt_zer0: how did you come to the notion that a closed turd of a platform such as 'raspberry' is a good starting point for learning programming ?
15:52 ag3nt_zer0 Asciilifeform: magickally I think
15:52 mircea_popescu lol
15:53 mircea_popescu !gettrust ag3nt_zer0
15:53 assbot ag3nt_zer0 is not registered in WoT.
15:53 mircea_popescu i guess you can't do that till you sort gpg huh
15:53 ag3nt_zer0 no working on it haha yeah
15:53 BingoBoingo ag3nt_zer0: TI-89 is probably a better platform for play computing
15:53 asciilifeform ag3nt_zer0: may i suggest a change in magicks ? have a stern talk with your amulet supplier.
15:53 trinque !b 1
15:53 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33KY7Y9.txt )
15:53 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the -89 in production for the past 7 or so years is a steaming pile of shit
15:54 ag3nt_zer0 asciilifeform: yes working out the LSD kinks
15:54 asciilifeform imagine, a calculator with a boot time!
15:54 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Hence Ebay
15:54 BingoBoingo Why would anyone buy a "new" "calculator"
15:54 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: same reason why a winblows box. 'it's what they had in the shop'
15:56 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164495 << no one actually asks 'what is the alternative to state.' what they are really asking is 'what, in your cosmography, is to be the means whereby i get fed, roofed, and far away from bloodthirsty cannibals like before ?' and if the answer is 'you don't, fuck you, biodiesel' don't expect a 'thank you' from the interlocutor
15:56 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 19:21:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164136 << the question is misstated in that it assumes an alternative is needed. "what is the alternative to bell bottoms???".
15:56 mircea_popescu tough.
15:57 mircea_popescu might as well ask "what in your cosmography, maps the thing that ensures my eternal life past the pearly gates"
15:57 mircea_popescu i am not responsible for the subjective delusion of inquirers.
15:57 * trinque ends up playing blockdude
15:57 asciilifeform nah they're just interested in earthly life past next tuesday
15:57 mircea_popescu nope
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00042603 = 22.963 BTC [+]
15:57 mircea_popescu they just discuss it in those tersm, inappropriately.
15:58 mircea_popescu but otherwise, they are discussing salvation in the reliugious sense
15:58 asciilifeform imho this deserves a little elaboration, if there is 'space in this margin'
15:58 asciilifeform most folks i encounter in usa are elementarily concerned with cannibals
15:58 asciilifeform very practical problem
15:59 mircea_popescu yeah. what you don't know is that the concept of "cannibals" is alike the concept that "niggers are by nature made to be slaves"
15:59 asciilifeform nothing theological about it
15:59 mircea_popescu came from the same place, too.
15:59 mircea_popescu hahaha
15:59 mircea_popescu guess the place it came from
15:59 mircea_popescu starts with m and ends in y
15:59 asciilifeform actually it comes from observable ground. i can walk for an hour right now and end in a place from which would have even chances of coming back.
16:00 mircea_popescu not so observable. antrhopologically speaking, the behaviour in question is beyond rare.
16:00 asciilifeform about as rare as pedestrians run over by bus
16:00 decimation ascii could also ride a nearby train in a certain direction and be the only member of his race aboard
16:00 asciilifeform most pedestrians, at most times, are able to stay out of under the bus.
16:00 trinque east coast cities really do suck
16:00 mircea_popescu in the european cultural discourse it ended up as a bit of editorializing by people without a daily mail, looking to illustrate the idiocy they read in some book.
16:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no. about as rare as women giving birth to buses.
16:00 asciilifeform decimation: for this, i don't need the train. live there.
16:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there is no dispute that the state creates that place it supposedly defends you from.
16:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: of course.
16:01 mircea_popescu christianity ended up creating on earht the hell it was going to save people from
16:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: none of what i describe here existed in 1950.
16:01 mircea_popescu communism ditto.
16:01 mircea_popescu it's just a thing
16:02 asciilifeform but it ~is~ here now.
16:02 decimation except those 'christians' were departing from orthodox doctrine
16:02 mircea_popescu sucks.
16:02 mircea_popescu decimation oh, comrade stalin betrayed the sacred ideals ?
16:02 mircea_popescu tell me more.tiff
16:03 decimation more like, they became closet atheists and decided to use the church as a propaganda organ
16:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10807 @ 0.00042554 = 4.5988 BTC [-]
16:03 mircea_popescu but the church is funfamentally good amirite? just it was misimplemented in practice.
16:03 mircea_popescu hitler for pope!
16:04 decimation people are fundamentally evil and so are their institutions
16:04 mircea_popescu some institutions are necessarily going to fuck up because they proceed from broken presumptions.
16:05 mircea_popescu christianity is one of them.
16:05 decimation if you read the old testament, most of the people who became prophets were hit upside the head by God and told what to do, they weren't bureaucrats receiving their sinecures
16:06 mircea_popescu (and yes as alf points out, the "broken presumptions" are always faces of the same demon. "people are equal", his proper name)
16:06 trinque "There is an ultimate power you can know and derive knowledge from directly, and his son absolved you of every mistake you could ever make." << fucking mind virus
16:06 trinque the one short-circuits learning and the other justifies it
16:06 mircea_popescu trinque interesting, we have different criteria ?
16:06 asciilifeform trinque: this particular virus only works on those who are immunocompromised to begin with
16:06 asciilifeform like the oddball flora which infest aids patient
16:07 trinque mircea_popescu: maybe, how so?
16:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform amusingly, in aids patients virulence does not follow the usual curves.
16:07 trinque asciilifeform: yeah, got me young, still didn't take
16:07 mircea_popescu which is to say : interacting microorganisms sorta repress each other, all the time. but in imunocompromised patient, DIFFERENT set has the upper hand
16:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha, because now it is a contest of who can eat the meat faster, rather than who can evade immune mechanism
16:08 mircea_popescu it's not just "more" or "random". it's actually different sets.
16:08 asciilifeform sorta like the dynamics of ecosystem of criminals after, rather than before, demise of mega-state
16:08 asciilifeform (to bring it back to usaschwitz thread)
16:08 mircea_popescu well, partly that, partly "there's no longer the state here to clean out x y z and make it livable for K M N so Q W R win out"
16:09 decimation so, for good reasons many choose the state they know
16:09 decimation instead of the bandits they don't
16:10 mircea_popescu works fine for as long as they're happy with it
16:11 mircea_popescu the junkie with fifty pounds of pure heroin stashed away isn't going out in the streets either.
16:12 asciilifeform to paraphrase mr rumsfeld, 'you get raped by the state you have, not the state you wish you had'
16:12 trinque I don't remember choosing a state
16:12 asciilifeform aha
16:12 decimation or 'post-monarchial non-state' as the case may be
16:12 asciilifeform but the question is normally a kind of hypothetical, 'would you like usg or the orcs with pitchforks'
16:13 asciilifeform usually folks answer 'usg says 'your money or your life', orcs say 'your life'; hence usg'
16:13 mircea_popescu as such it is misstated, in the manner owners of slavegirls misstate the world to the slavegirls.
16:13 mircea_popescu "would you like the beatings here or to be run over by a bus ???"
16:13 mircea_popescu welllll....
16:13 trinque biggest contribution to choosing a state most people can make is saying "nope, not this one"
16:13 decimation asciilifeform: what's the alternative? gentle bandits? usg with 'reform'?
16:13 asciilifeform trinque: even this is beyond the abilities of most
16:14 mircea_popescu stepping out of the idiotology.
16:14 trinque eh they can in aggregate, just don't know it
16:14 asciilifeform decimation: last i checked, there is not a button on my desk that cancels usg
16:14 trinque or forget time to time
16:14 asciilifeform trinque: 'can in aggregate' like the chinese can jump and create earthquake, yes
16:14 asciilifeform which is to say not.
16:15 asciilifeform <mircea_popescu> stepping out of the idiotology << what does this consist of in practice ?
16:15 mircea_popescu i run into this question a lot. "just stop" "how ?" "by not doing it" "but i don't know how!!1"
16:16 mircea_popescu usually it's resolved with "if you ever do this again im going to beat you with a wet dulap"
16:16 asciilifeform i notice a tendency among #b-a folks to dwell on 'convince folks to leave gravity well.' well, guess what, i was convinced 15+ yrs ago, before ever met you lot. and fat lot of good it did
16:16 asciilifeform one needs the means as well as the will.
16:17 mircea_popescu when there's a means there's a will or how was it
16:17 trinque "where there's a will there's a way" ?
16:17 mircea_popescu i think "when there's a butthole there's a plug"
16:17 trinque lol
16:17 asciilifeform tell that to the fellow writhing in the leather straps on electric chair
16:17 mircea_popescu i'm just the man to do that, too. so yeah, i will.
16:18 trinque "You can do it!" "Manifest your destiny, brother!"
16:18 trinque bbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzpppppttttssss!
16:18 trinque "Hm... alright bring in the next one!"
16:19 mircea_popescu mno, more like, "well... you are aware the alternative would have been being eaten by cannibals right ???"
16:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30563 @ 0.00042554 = 13.0058 BTC [-]
16:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164230 << yep
16:20 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 04:33:18; funkenstein_: trinque, indeed. sounds like a small statement but you have just affirmed something big methinks
16:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164299 <<< ahahah what the fuck
16:21 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 09:17:46; scoopbot_revived: CoinJar COO Ryan Zhou Caught Impersonating Dice Site's Developer http://qntra.net/2015/06/coinjar-coo-ryan-zhou-caught-impersonating-dice-sites-developer/
16:21 mircea_popescu so basically... a lot of "different people" who are actually all the same guy compose a community which spent years accusing me of being hanbot ?
16:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164306 << at this rate you'll end up with a mistress.
16:24 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 09:39:44; cazalla: i had another sober weekend so half way there to a sober month of June
16:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61837 @ 0.00041476 = 25.6475 BTC [-]
16:28 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164356 << kind of ? heh.
16:28 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:13:45; pete_dushenski: ""It's kind of scary that somebody could know that much about us," said a former senior U.S. diplomat, pointing out the ability to use such data to impersonate an American official online, obtain passwords and plunder bank accounts."
16:28 mircea_popescu get used to it, flondors.
16:29 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164358 << more importantly, turns out that when you work for the usg, you sign your own prison sentence / death warrant.
16:29 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:14:35; pete_dushenski: turns out that when you spill the beans to a piece of paper in a drawer, someone can go in and read that piece of paper !
16:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ?
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16:32 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:26:58; pete_dushenski: "Management “wanted a creative building MMO [massively multiplayer online-game] with a promise of zero penises seen,” tweeted Megan Fox, a developer who worked on the project,"
16:34 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164399 << "one who gets paid."
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16:34 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 15:45:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164361 << depends on what one means by 'agent.' afaik, mere stoolies don't fill out forms.
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17:05 BingoBoingo herpity derp derp http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34206292/
17:05 assbot Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1IgtE7f )
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17:21 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164712 << know that almost all folks paid by usg fill out no forms like these.
17:21 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 20:34:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164399 << "one who gets paid."
17:22 asciilifeform speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
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17:22 asciilifeform (e.g., old residences, employers, blood relatives, marriages, etc)
17:22 trinque ~or~ why doesn't the NSA file my taxes?
17:23 asciilifeform what remains after these are subtracted is some very wooden 'list the terrorist orgs you have been a member in, and why' verbiage
17:23 asciilifeform (literally! read the thing)
17:23 trinque and why lol
17:24 asciilifeform (btw the answer, at least partially, for 'why they don't consult the files' is that what the inquisitors are mainly interested in is ~liars~ rather than the facts)
17:24 asciilifeform ditto the tax collectors
17:24 asciilifeform (if 'nsa filed your tax,' who would ever pay fines ?)
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18:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo of course, the truly ridiculous thing in that inept flailing of two different groups of idiots with 100 BTC in the middle is the proposition that btc-e stealing user funds is "what any legitimate busines would have done".
18:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80550 @ 0.00042664 = 34.3659 BTC [+] {2}
18:27 mircea_popescu must be in backwards world, this magical place where "official replies" go to reddit and tardstalk.
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21:25 danielpbarron !up sundance
21:28 mircea_popescu ehehe
21:28 mircea_popescu nice netmask.
21:35 mircea_popescu and in highschool news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb73p2TaLz1rq6vz1o1_500.gif
21:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGiCe2 )
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21:38 decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164722 < it's a good question. in fact, a careful reading of the form is interesting not for the stupid questions it asks but the large gaps it doesn't ask about
21:38 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other
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21:39 decimation it seems that most of the 'security apparatus' of usg is geared toward catching dumb or incompetent spies
21:39 decimation apparently like it is also geared to catch dumb terrorists
21:40 decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2014#811885 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2014#811886
21:40 assbot Logged on 27-08-2014 04:09:34; asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur.
21:40 assbot Logged on 27-08-2014 04:10:26; asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret'
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22:19 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> how is "working undercover" what you do when you << couldn't possibly be real. lulzy satire of the state of the state tho
22:21 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"
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22:24 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
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22:25 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> esp in odessa << ehe late as always, i am
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22:48 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164552 << i rarely if ever use a mouse. I'm a big fan of the rubber nub in the center of the keyboard, even if it is the reason my 'b' key fell off and later stopped working
22:48 assbot Logged on 15-06-2015 19:45:47; trinque: what's a mouse
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22:59 ben_vulpes dpb's a clit tickler!
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22:59 trinque ehehe
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23:07 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << i've been known to introduce myself as a 'gassing jew'
23:07 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot
23:08 asciilifeform (which is to say, one who is good for more or less entirely that)
23:18 Adlai isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
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23:22 ben_vulpes there is a "silent dance party" occuring at the park down the street
23:22 ben_vulpes many many people with headphones dancing to music only they can hear
23:22 ben_vulpes in time
23:23 ben_vulpes this was less eerie two nights ago at 1 in the morning.
23:23 Adlai one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties
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23:24 ben_vulpes i think these are straight up radio
23:24 ben_vulpes might be wrong
23:24 Adlai he has since moved up in life, last i heard he cancelled a return ticket from the west coast to stick around and carve surfeboards
23:26 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164775 << and that's another thing from the long list of 'jew things' that i have no truck with
23:26 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 03:18:14; Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?
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23:32 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164780 << would be interesting to broadcast custom message to these folks.
23:32 assbot Logged on 16-06-2015 03:23:56; Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties
23:33 Adlai fwiw ben_vulpes i distinctly remember him saying "wifi", although it could be that different manufacturers use different technologies
23:33 Adlai and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either
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23:34 Adlai 'jew things' is such a game of broken telephone, it's amazing how people survived without deedbots
23:34 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
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23:41 decimation schneier lulz: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/encrypting_wind.html < "Encrypting your Windows hard drives is trivially easy; choosing which program to use is annoyingly difficult. I still use Windows -- yes, I know, don't even start -- and have intimate experience with this issue."
23:41 assbot Encrypting Windows Hard Drives - Schneier on Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1R2Rmsl )
23:42 decimation seems to me that he's going senile
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23:42 decimation maybe next week he will be complaining about the damn mailman
23:45 Adlai "a king has his reign and then he dies"
23:45 mod6 man writes a defacto encryption encyclopedia, uses windows.
23:45 mod6 other man creates a crypto-currency, uses windows and MFC.
23:45 mod6 staggers the imagination
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23:45 decimation actually, what it says to me is that the alternatives are dead
23:45 Adlai satoshi must've "known better"
23:46 Adlai his using msvc was just like writing the note with your non-dominant hand
23:46 decimation as ascii said, they probably use winblows because that's what they sell at the computer store
23:46 decimation adlai: he ported functions from mfc into bitcoin utils.cpp
23:47 decimation the man knew cpp-boost-mfc-ese
23:47 Adlai so? i'll copypaste the navyseals copypasta, doesn't mean i know how to triforce
23:47 decimation my point being, he picked his tools, stuck with them
23:48 decimation it's hard for me to begrudge a man that
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