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00:32 asciilifeform decimation> asciilifeform: did you enjoy your tour through central american airports? << ahmhahahahah.
00:32 * asciilifeform will probably pass on Spam Air next go around
00:34 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109016 <<< lol no
00:34 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 00:15:08; mircea_popescu: davout got the job btw ? :D
00:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108862 << l0l, where ?
00:34 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 23:04:57; ben_cash: i finally found the pet who wanted to come home
00:35 davout their latest solution "check the referer herp derp" leaves me without words
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00:36 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108229 <<< not sure if such a thing even exists, in the same way there's no average value for a chaotic scalar variable
00:36 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 15:41:28; trinque: ben_vulpes: it is currently unknown what an appropriate blocksize would be
00:37 asciilifeform what's next, we can't pick an optimal mains voltage ?
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00:41 davout if we assume it exists, how do would the value even be determined?
00:41 davout s/do//
00:47 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108668 <<< i'll come
00:47 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 21:38:54; fluffypony: btw for any b-a'ers in Europe I'm going to be there for the next month, would love to meet up, or you could come to one of the Monero meetups I'll be presenting at (Brussels on May 19th, Paris on May 21st, Berlin on May 24th) or else I'll be presenting at Bitcoinference in Amsterdam on May 30/31
00:47 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108717 <<< as long as it is the embrace, extend, extinguish kind of embrace...
00:47 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 22:01:31; fluffypony: but he does firmly believe in *embracing regulation* before it cometh
00:48 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108851 <<< until they relaod the page to clear the referer herp derp
00:48 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 23:00:51; mircea_popescu: "@FLAdmin: Step 1 is to disallow incoming traffic from the trilema domain (23.235.235.243). This prevents people from using the hyperlinks on his page."
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01:12 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108536 <<< not always, it isn't really useful in most cases for your VARCHAR(255) to be aware of what the verb is your sentence
01:12 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 19:15:18; trinque: your data storing thing should be aware of structure
01:13 trinque varchar(255) not null is structure
01:15 trinque davout: who said a database needed to parse english?
01:15 trinque might be nice if it inforced x always has a y
01:15 trinque and an x is always (x1 x2 x3 x4)
01:18 davout well, you, just pushing that to the extreme to show that, even though i hardly ever use it, this unstructured nosql approach sometimes is useful, and isn't *inherently* evil like you seem to imply
01:19 trinque davout: to be aware of what the verb is your sentence <<
01:20 trinque I'm far too sleepy to be calling things evil, don't see that anywhere
01:21 davout iirc you were discussing some message store thing with $too_lazy_to_fish_in_logs
01:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00030271 = 6.5385 BTC [+] {2}
01:25 trinque davout: one the one hand there's a discussion of the merits of using relational modeling to represent concepts
01:26 trinque on the other, what's done in a production web system
01:26 trinque I'm too tired for that one at the moment.
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02:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00030155 = 2.4727 BTC [-]
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02:54 fluffypony davout: ok cool, the Paris meetup will probably be at the Mozilla offices, I'll confirm closer o the time
03:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00030275 = 6.6302 BTC [+]
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03:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.0003033 = 15.2257 BTC [+] {2}
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04:06 mats AMZN surges and a winner is me http://www.businessinsider.com/aws-earns-1-billion-a-year-on-6-billion-in-profit-2015-4
04:06 assbot AWS earns $1 billion a year on $6 billion in profit - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPw1zy )
04:15 williamdunne Wait what?
04:15 williamdunne How does that work
04:16 williamdunne trinque: What has happened to him?
04:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11127 @ 0.00029975 = 3.3353 BTC [-]
04:18 williamdunne !s scoopbot_revived
04:18 assbot 18 results for 'scoopbot_revived' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=scoopbot_revived
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04:35 williamdunne Scoopbot has resurfaced, https error came up which didn't have any error handling.
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04:53 williamdunne !s btcalpha.com
04:53 assbot 115 results for 'btcalpha.com' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=btcalpha.com
04:54 williamdunne mike_c: Awesome WoT browser. Very pretty.
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05:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9939 @ 0.00028901 = 2.8725 BTC [-]
05:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74165 @ 0.00028438 = 21.091 BTC [-] {3}
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00027827 = 4.1184 BTC [-]
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06:13 williamdunne https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/591527686117466113
06:13 assbot /orionwl just merged pruning support in /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash Core! Run a (no wallet) full node with 1.3 GB storage. Thanks to all who contributed.
06:14 BingoBoingo Yes, let's make syncing even more of a pain
06:17 williamdunne BingoBoingo: It could cause some people to start running full nodes who weren't otherwise, don't think it will make a huge difference
06:17 BingoBoingo Nodes, maybe. Full, not at all.
06:18 williamdunne Sorry, you're right
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06:18 williamdunne But yes
06:18 williamdunne I can't imagine it will remove many full nodes, just add some nodes
06:18 williamdunne And syncing won't be too effected with headers first, although full sync I guess could take a little longer
06:19 BingoBoingo Well, a headers first version has already been released
06:21 williamdunne Yeah, so they'll both be in the same version together so not really an issue
06:21 williamdunne Although I could be wrong
06:21 williamdunne Just a hunch
06:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00027787 = 4.4598 BTC [-]
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07:08 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
07:08 gribble Current Blocks: 353489 | Current Difficulty: 4.761056451347126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 354815 | Next Difficulty In: 1326 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48597211308.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.07233
07:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109021 << yeah and im sure it's accidental.
07:21 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 03:22:57; trinque: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/23/drone-strike-al-qaida-targets-white-house << pretty damn amusing word choice in the URL if you ask me
07:22 jurov intentionally accidental
07:23 ben_vulpes <asciilifeform> [04:33] http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108862 << l0l, where ? la poesia
07:23 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 23:04:57; ben_cash: i finally found the pet who wanted to come home
07:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109027 << eeexactly.
07:24 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 03:46:32; decimation: "While intellectual property seems to be mostly ignored, tradecraft and trade secrets seem to be shared selectively in a complex network of family, friends and trusted colleagues. "
07:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109036 << they actually implemented that ?
07:24 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 04:35:24; davout: their latest solution "check the referer herp derp" leaves me without words
07:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109039 << seems to me it's more like "we pick an optimal electron repose energy"
07:27 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 04:37:07; asciilifeform: what's next, we can't pick an optimal mains voltage ?
07:27 mircea_popescu which you know... if they could be made differently more people would have access to electrons!
07:29 mircea_popescu aaand wd mats!
07:31 mircea_popescu mike_c http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/ << dat shit's the tits, it has earned a spot in my "always on" list of tabs. and not even that far down the list, either!
07:31 assbot WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1aXLcek )
07:31 mircea_popescu thanks and love!
07:31 mircea_popescu !rated mike_c
07:31 assbot You rated user mike_c on 25-Jun-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: We're partners in WoL. He also runs btcalpha.com, which is a standard for Bitcoin reporting..
07:32 mircea_popescu !rate mike_c 4 He's been doing cool shit for years.
07:32 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/2d3f1bc51307ac8f
07:32 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.mike_c.4:653bdc8294b5de053f1d44a45f0cee61dd1fa55e80c9fddf919787223bc8fbb2
07:32 assbot Successfully updated the rating for mike_c from 3 to 4 with note: He's been doing cool shit for years.
07:33 mircea_popescu mike_c can it has anchor on "Ratings sent" and "ratings received" ?
07:36 mircea_popescu ;;seen dub
07:36 gribble dub was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 1 day, 14 hours, 38 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <dub> thats an interesting one for france given cambodia
07:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29346 @ 0.00027787 = 8.1544 BTC [-]
07:38 williamdunne !rate mike_c 1 WoT on btcalpha
07:38 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/42b58498f085ed27
07:38 williamdunne !v assbot:williamdunne.rate.mike_c.1:f1e4a31471dbf17719c015bd64bcb65b4ac54604bfd41508506cfa2e782ffc64
07:38 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for mike_c with note: WoT on btcalpha
07:45 mircea_popescu ;;seen diametric
07:45 gribble diametric was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 44 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <diametric> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/04/10/1541258/florida-teen-charged-with-felony-hacking-for-changing-desktop-wallpaper
07:51 mircea_popescu ;;seen fabianb
07:51 gribble fabianb was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <FabianB> not down but very slow it seems
07:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46904 @ 0.00028681 = 13.4525 BTC [+]
08:08 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c other than anchors : can tables be sorted ? (yes it can, <script src="http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/sorttable.js"></script> in the head and then class="sortable" in the table)
08:08 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:11 mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c also, any idea why some rating comments appear empty ?
08:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:14 mircea_popescu that whole wot svg is under 1mb even. great.
08:14 mircea_popescu !up dub
08:15 dub hi2u
08:15 mircea_popescu you know you can self up
08:15 dub my key is secured by lazy
08:15 mircea_popescu lol
08:16 dub how rolls?
08:16 mircea_popescu not bad, not bad. conference last week, fetlife this week...
08:16 scoopbot_revived News! A new Lordship List ? URL: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-lordship-list/
08:16 assbot Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HzA6cq )
08:17 mircea_popescu kakobrekla any idea why assbot keeps finding pages not found ? adds something after url maybe ?
08:17 mircea_popescu oh uses direct ip reference.
08:18 jurov no http/1.1-compatible library is good enough for assbot
08:18 mircea_popescu im prolly the culprit here actually.
08:19 jurov lol how so?
08:19 dub wondered when I would fall off the list
08:19 mircea_popescu jurov i vaguely recall asking kako to reference by ip at some point
08:19 mircea_popescu dub also secured by lazy!
08:20 dub hey now! meatspace can be busy
08:21 mircea_popescu that it can.
08:22 mircea_popescu ahhh it's nice to have the wot website back!
08:28 williamdunne Its pretty, too
08:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109086 << that's the problem, it will make people think they';re running nodes who aren't.
08:30 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 10:18:03; williamdunne: Sorry, you're right
08:31 mircea_popescu but yes, broadly speaking the efforts of power rangers are irrelevant to bitcoin.
08:31 mircea_popescu so dun much matter one way or teh other.
08:31 williamdunne Personally I reckon it'll just have more people running semi-nodes, rather than less people running full
08:32 williamdunne Especially as the blockchain is starting to get too big for cheap VPS systems used for most services
08:32 mircea_popescu i imagine what it'll actually lead to is more people with full nodes running longer shitlists of AOL type nodes.
08:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59600 @ 0.00027851 = 16.5992 BTC [-]
08:32 BingoBoingo I really fail to see much difference between the pruning nodes and the pseudo-nodes
08:33 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well that may be because there isn't one.
08:33 williamdunne BingoBoingo: Pruning nodes can still validate transactions with recent inputs can they not? Or do they store all inputs. Need to read how it works
08:33 williamdunne *all unspent outputs
08:34 williamdunne Whereas pseudo-nodes just tell everyone everything
08:34 mircea_popescu 'pruning' offers a guarantee that the node won't be able to offer you a block which contains all spent outputs.
08:34 BingoBoingo williamdunne: Problem isn't the unspent tx set, it is the blocks
08:34 mircea_popescu which is how it saves space.
08:34 williamdunne BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I need to read up on it first before commenting
08:35 BingoBoingo It's hard enough to find sync worthy nodes in the wild as is
08:35 mircea_popescu there isn't anything particularly wrong with the approach, much like there isn't anything wrong with holding up a sign, or drinking a cup of coffee.
08:35 mircea_popescu once people involved start imagining that holding up signs / drinking coffee is relevant to bitcoin, they have somewhat of a problem
08:35 mircea_popescu but considering the rest of the problems they have, to them it's minor, and to us... well we didn't care before, either.
08:39 williamdunne Okay, so from a little reading it does seem that they keep the full unspent TX set. While they can't provide all the blocks to someone who wants everything from the genesis it does seem like a pretty big improvement to me - should see a lot more verifying nodes - no?
08:39 mircea_popescu verifying nodes, yes.
08:39 mircea_popescu this is not particularly useful tho, once you have 10 nodes doing verification, it's done. what's X gonna find that Y does not ?
08:39 mircea_popescu meanwhile, the important function of nodes is storage.
08:40 williamdunne Verifying nodes are good for those that care about accepting unconfirmed tx/s IIRC
08:40 mircea_popescu it's the usg playbook : give more people the illusion of participation, so you can take more control of the underlying processes.
08:40 mircea_popescu williamdunne explain how ? verification doesn't happen faster for having more nodes doing it.
08:41 mircea_popescu it may happen closer to you geographically, but w/e.
08:41 williamdunne Something to do with propogation
08:41 mircea_popescu at best a log.
08:41 mircea_popescu but people who actually care about 0tx are currently in practice and are in theory much better served by just keeping vpn links to actual main nodes.
08:42 williamdunne Thats what most of them do anyway, no? i.e in Electrum
08:42 mircea_popescu prolly.
08:43 williamdunne Seems like it can only be beneficial if it moves some away from Electrum and onto verifying nodes
08:43 BingoBoingo williamdunne: Electrum just does http/TLS
08:43 mircea_popescu anyway, it's a toy, like any other. people learning and kids are more than welcome to their fun, what.
08:43 jurov no it uses stratum/ssl but that's a tech detail
08:43 williamdunne BingoBoingo: They connect to a single node, who you would assume is fairly well connected
08:44 BingoBoingo ty jurov
08:45 BingoBoingo williamdunne: I really don't see how people could use electrum without their own node/server (hug-e pain)
08:46 mircea_popescu btw, mod6, ben_vulpes, erryone : <scoopbot_revived> News! A new Lordship List ? URL: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-lordship-list/
08:46 assbot Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HzA6cq )
08:46 mircea_popescu if comments etc.
08:46 jurov BingoBoingo: if you don't mind server knowing your addresses, then it's fine. otherwise, i agree
08:48 williamdunne BingoBoingo: It used to be okay, I wouldn't want to use it now but did its job fine
08:48 jurov what changed?
08:49 BingoBoingo jurov: Yeah. Then there's public servers that just suck. Laggy, don't always send updates, potential chance they could begin lying.
08:49 williamdunne I'll be on that list someday :'(
08:50 jurov yes, bitcoin node using real database is needed... then electrum server would only need to add its indexes
08:51 mircea_popescu williamdunne certainly if you keep going at the present rate o.O
08:51 williamdunne BingoBoingo: Yeah, I originally quit using them because I could never connect
08:51 williamdunne mircea_popescu: I have no intention of slowing down
08:53 williamdunne !s summary?
08:53 assbot 259 results for 'summary?' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=summary%3F
08:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36142 @ 0.00028198 = 10.1913 BTC [+] {2}
08:54 kakobrekla <scoopbot_revived> News! A new Lordship List ? URL: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-lordship-list/
08:54 assbot A new Lordship List ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcCGVC )
08:54 williamdunne Quick fix
08:54 mircea_popescu yay ty kako
09:00 BingoBoingo ty kakobrekla http://www.picturesdepot.com/photo/p/pacman_cookies-4127.jpg
09:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcDFFl )
09:02 mircea_popescu " the line to get on the elevator was a good hour long."
09:02 mircea_popescu holy shit.
09:02 mircea_popescu who, for what reason, would ever put themselves in this situation ?
09:06 kakobrekla !gettrust links to mikes creation now
09:06 assbot links and to are not registered in WoT.
09:07 mircea_popescu !gettrust kakobrekla
09:07 assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 5, Level 2: 60 via 34 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=kakobrekla | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/kakobrekla/
09:07 williamdunne 1/10
09:07 williamdunne 10/10
09:07 mircea_popescu epic.
09:07 mircea_popescu -5anduck1.07483Dec. 22, 2014idiot. does not understand how bitcoin works.
09:07 mircea_popescu lawl
09:12 williamdunne !bitcoin-otc fork
09:12 williamdunne !s bitcoin-otc fork
09:12 assbot 0 results for 'bitcoin-otc fork' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoin-otc+fork
09:12 williamdunne !s fork
09:12 assbot 686 results for 'fork' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fork
09:13 mircea_popescu what are you looking for ?
09:14 williamdunne The reason behind forking from bitcoin-otc
09:14 williamdunne Something about downtime and a vulnerability is what I read on btcalpha but not much detail as to exactly what
09:15 mircea_popescu gribble went down at some point. this is rare, but whatever, happens. nanotube was also unresponsive. after a few days in this position assbot got enabled to wot
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09:15 mircea_popescu turns out the guy was just traveling at the time (was right around the new year).
09:18 williamdunne Ah, so sort of just bad luck?
09:18 mircea_popescu well at that time you couldn't tell what happened. for all you know, nano was usg-kidnapped.
09:18 mircea_popescu wot is a crucial bit of infrastructure, and so it's watched and protected accordingly.
09:18 williamdunne It'd be nice if they could connect, especially as they can still verify the signatures on each.
09:18 williamdunne Yeah I understand why it was done - not criticizing it at all
09:19 mircea_popescu in fairness, prolly a lot more crucial here than in -otc, so some sort of decoupling was probably unavoidable.
09:19 mircea_popescu williamdunne there was some discussion re making them communicate, but no concrete steps towards gribble becoming able to sign its stuff so far.
09:19 mircea_popescu otherwise it could probably happen in a day.
09:20 williamdunne Yeah not exactly a big software job. Can be done in a few hours if that
09:20 mircea_popescu what i imagine is the case is - nano was planning to make an upgraded gribble for what, coupla years now. he's probably thinking to have it done in one piece.
09:21 mircea_popescu speculating because well, never heard anything specific on the topic.
09:21 williamdunne Kinda pathetic if you've been intending to do something for a couple of years and it still hasn't happened (assuming the only constraint is time)
09:22 mircea_popescu to quote dub, "meatspace can be busy"
09:22 mircea_popescu besides, erryone gets to set their own priorities and so on.
09:23 williamdunne Sure, but even the bottom of my list can expect to be done within 6 months
09:23 williamdunne Maybe I'm just being unfair
09:23 mircea_popescu what can i tell ya.
09:26 BingoBoingo list bottoms tend to be downwardly mobile
09:30 scoopbot_revived News! New Web of Trust Web Explorer URL: http://qntra.net/2015/04/new-web-of-trust-web-explorer/
09:30 assbot New Web of Trust Web Explorer | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcIjmA )
09:32 pete_dushenski goooood morning!
09:32 pete_dushenski let's see if this testpost works on scoopbot_revived...
09:32 williamdunne I'll be happy to fix it if it doesn't
09:33 scoopbot_revived News! scoopbot_revived testpost URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/24/scoopbot_revived-testpost/
09:33 assbot scoopbot_revived testpost | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1bAyWSk )
09:33 williamdunne Lol, good timing
09:33 pete_dushenski beautiful. so, so beautiful.
09:33 mircea_popescu check it out pete_dushenski !
09:34 mircea_popescu poor guy was belabouring with this for months.
09:34 pete_dushenski lol you dun understand how sad i was when i first scanned the logs for the post i published early early this morning/late last night... and it wasn't there
09:34 pete_dushenski but williamdunne, you did it. wd!
09:35 williamdunne Thank you very much :)
09:36 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/24/narrated-video-of-the-poem-stop-all-the-clocks-again/ << for mircea_popescu and whoever else likes his poetry but wonders how it'd sound spoken by yours truly
09:36 assbot Narrated video of the poem ‘Stop all the clocks (again)’ | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1bAzA2b )
09:36 williamdunne Yeah it broke this morning because there was some error checking missing and btctrading broke it
09:36 pete_dushenski !gettrust williamdunne
09:36 assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user williamdunne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=pete_dushenski&to=williamdunne | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/williamdunne/
09:36 williamdunne pete_dushenski: Oh, and mike did a new trust thingy
09:36 pete_dushenski ^heh btcalpha link
09:36 mircea_popescu "Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available. Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 video."
09:36 mircea_popescu a sadness is me!
09:37 pete_dushenski negro please!
09:37 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: you can't watch html5 video?
09:37 pete_dushenski flash... i get
09:37 mircea_popescu i can, this isn't.
09:37 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski also in the news, you didn't send a pingback.
09:40 pete_dushenski well trackbacks, but i know what you mean. the things are borked
09:40 pete_dushenski i've received the last few from qntra, but missed a few before that..
09:40 pete_dushenski pretty sure the last one from trilema didn't come through
09:41 mircea_popescu lemme run that script thingee
09:41 pete_dushenski i know for a fact that you linked to http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/30/how-to-become-a-good-poker-player-translated/
09:41 assbot How to become a good poker player, translated. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcKq9Y )
09:42 pete_dushenski improving upon my meagre translation and whatnot
09:43 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 32(Y):68(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.89313103 BTC. Current weight: 94,793.
09:50 pete_dushenski k, this video is getting moved over to vimeo.
09:50 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski i got to it meanwjilr
09:50 mircea_popescu manwhile*
09:50 pete_dushenski ah different browser ?
09:51 jurov http://www.coindesk.com/sec-bitcoin-exchange-60000-securities-violations/ burnside got burned
09:51 assbot SEC Fines Defunct Bitcoin Exchange Operator $68,000 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcLQkO )
09:51 mircea_popescu so this is why 100k ?
09:52 mircea_popescu "The issuers paid 11,450 LTC and 210 BTC in listing fees, respectively."
09:52 mircea_popescu orly.
09:53 jurov ;;seen burnside
09:53 gribble burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 39 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 18 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <burnside> lol
09:54 mircea_popescu " and in a memorable email exchange said it was investigating exchange MPEx owner Mircea Popescu over the sale of popular gambling site SatoshiDICE for over $11.5m in bitcoin."
09:54 mircea_popescu umm... it said that ?!
09:54 mircea_popescu ;;seen justusranvier
09:54 gribble justusranvier was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 28 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <justusranvier> On the plus side, this arrangement means I can run Skype in a virtualized sandbox that's far away from my real desktop
09:56 BingoBoingo lol http://qntra.net/2014/12/ethan-burnside-fined-by-sec/
09:56 assbot Ethan Burnside Fined By SEC | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcMuyV )
09:57 williamdunne I still don;t understand who the hell would launch that from inside the US? Like srsly. Its not even opsec at this point, its just about not being goddam mentally handicapped
09:57 pete_dushenski heh.
09:58 mircea_popescu the guy had issues. if you think you can swallow a tractor, then by the same head you will probably also think you can swallow it underwater.
09:58 mircea_popescu it's this entire "empowerment" idiocy going around the english space these decades.
09:58 williamdunne Thats a great analogy. I like that.
09:58 williamdunne "I can do anything if I put my mind to it"
09:59 williamdunne Then again, thats kinda hypocritical because I treat my own aspirations with that mentality
09:59 mike_c mircea_popescu: yes, I'll add JS sorting to the tables that fit on a page.
10:00 mike_c re: empty comments, some ratings don't have a comment.
10:00 mircea_popescu mike_c from experience, even tables with > 10k entries are sortable. just takes a sec.
10:00 mircea_popescu but it only engages if someone clicks a header. so pretty safe.
10:01 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-v/ << it's deployed there for instance if you wanna play with it.
10:01 assbot The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume V on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcNaEz )
10:01 mike_c yeah. for the main table (7500 users), I'll make a separate page with the whole list.
10:02 pete_dushenski ;;seen artifexd
10:02 gribble artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 15 hours, 45 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
10:02 pete_dushenski ah good.
10:02 mircea_popescu that happens to be 7015 rows
10:05 mats https://developers.yubico.com/ykneo-openpgp/SecurityAdvisory%202015-04-14.html
10:05 assbot SecurityAdvisory 2015-04-14 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcNGSW )
10:05 pete_dushenski lol nfc
10:06 mats > Yubikey NEO (JavaCard OpenPGP) private key operations can be accessed without PIN
10:07 mircea_popescu heh
10:07 mircea_popescu well if they make it so it can also be accessed without a card, i'm probably getting an infinity of them.
10:08 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33mqle/charlie_shrem_gets_2_years_in_prison_for_selling/cqmhr0m
10:08 assbot reddit_sucks2 comments on Charlie Shrem gets 2 years in prison for selling bitcoins while former CIA director gets 2 years probation for telling a whore national security secrets. ... ( http://bit.ly/1d99XG8 )
10:09 mircea_popescu doesn't this disparity seem scandalous ? whence the gall to "punish" a cia boss.
10:10 mircea_popescu i'd be seriously insulted if i actually were to take the us seriously.
10:11 mircea_popescu but in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/13a65924dd40031e1bfa04f4ca4d8bef/tumblr_n0l44cfPpU1revz5to3_500.gif
10:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KcOvuS )
10:11 BingoBoingo I'm just surprised at the outrage over calling a woman who traded sex for advantage an applicable label
10:12 mircea_popescu i think the applicable label is "socialite"
10:16 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: so... trackback ? thoughts on poem narration ?
10:16 BingoBoingo Nah, that was the other mistress. MistressLeak lack the appropriate social background
10:21 williamdunne Not sure what that guy thinks he is doing in the background
10:34 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski well it sounds just like a pete d!
10:34 mircea_popescu !up austeritysucks
10:34 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski and i resent trackbacks ten minutes ago or os.
10:35 pete_dushenski lol there's no masking the bare fact that my voice is... my voice.
10:35 pete_dushenski in any event, i was reasonably pleased with the result.
10:35 pete_dushenski some of the flows in that poem were awkward to say the least
10:36 pete_dushenski 'every single feather of each single dove' wants to be 'every single feather of every single dove'
10:38 mircea_popescu it's made like a gauntlet for the reader, that's for sure.
10:38 mircea_popescu also gl with stuff like sea you see and so on.
10:39 mircea_popescu thing's spiked all the way.
10:43 pete_dushenski sea you see wasn't bad at all, i quite liked that line
10:43 pete_dushenski even 'gloomly', though unusual, works
10:44 pete_dushenski the third and fourth stanzas tripped me up the most
10:44 BingoBoingo Oh, mike_c has a choice, to feel prouds or shames https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33pn2t/new_bitcoin_web_of_trust_explorer/
10:44 assbot New Bitcoin Web of Trust Explorer : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pv2rDy )
10:52 mike_c uh oh, btcalpha has officially jumped the shark now :)
10:57 BingoBoingo Seriously, mike_c You almist might have to get back to monthly blogging. Maybe even speed up to weekly
10:59 mike_c yeah, I got to get back to it.
11:00 pete_dushenski williamdunne: no cloak on your nick eh.
11:01 williamdunne Eh, not too concerned about it
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11:02 Pierre_Rochard williamdunne: I had to get one when my home IP address started getting DDOSed
11:03 williamdunne If that happens I'll go for it, retroactively though. It'd be an inconvenience at most
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11:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 900 @ 0.00202686 = 1.8242 BTC [+] {13}
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11:58 mats AMZN ticker is ridiculous
12:00 pete_dushenski +15%. whoa.
12:00 mats closed yesterday at 390 with uncertainty premium due to earnings report, opens at 440
12:05 funkenstein_ people love the unverifiable numbers they reported i guess
12:06 pete_dushenski 'people'
12:06 funkenstein_ i should take that back, I have no clue who the relevant market makers are here
12:12 pete_dushenski figure it's banks and whatever funds.
12:12 mats i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor
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12:13 pete_dushenski well played. when was this ?
12:13 pete_dushenski http://business.financialpost.com/news/fp-street/here-are-the-most-cringeworthy-chat-message-that-landed-deutsche-bank-with-a-record-us2-5b-fine << speaking of market makers
12:13 assbot Here are the most cringeworthy chat messages that landed Deutsche Bank with a US$2.5B rate-rigging fine | Financial Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gr3nHD )
12:14 pete_dushenski "COULD WE PLS HAVE A LOW 6MTH FIX TODAY OLD BEAN?"
12:15 mats http://fcw.com/articles/2013/03/18/amazon-cia-cloud.aspx
12:15 assbot Amazon and CIA ink cloud deal -- FCW ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gr3PFO )
12:16 williamdunne Nice to see some civility in the markets
12:16 Pierre_Rochard what’s cringeworthy about those chat messages?
12:16 williamdunne I suppose the "cringe" is about how brazen it was
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12:17 williamdunne Like "ooohhh and theres 2.5b gone"
12:17 williamdunne "There is the near entirety of bitcoin's market cap gone"
12:17 Pierre_Rochard also, traders getting blamed for poorly designed “market” mechanisms… I liken it to the stanford prison experiment - what exactly were you expecting?
12:18 pete_dushenski 'don't blame the bankers/jooz'
12:18 pete_dushenski mats: ah wd.
12:18 williamdunne What do "jooz" have to do with it?
12:19 pete_dushenski scapegoat par excellence ?
12:19 williamdunne "COULD WE PLS HAVE A LOW 6MTH FIX TODAY OLD YID?"
12:19 Pierre_Rochard well - some of the execs who designed this certainly deserve blame, some of which may coincidentally be bankers/jooz… all of them likely long retired/dead
12:20 Pierre_Rochard but really I’d cast blame on the lemmings who use LIBOR for everything and anything
12:23 pete_dushenski not sure how much of a coincidence it is that those in positions of influence, who needed to be leveraged by the state and 'the consumers who've come to expect', would be bankers and/or jooz
12:23 pete_dushenski so the state leveraged those of influence, and were leveraged in turn
12:24 pete_dushenski and both grew larger. and larger.
12:24 pete_dushenski and the incentives inherent in large organisations became manifest until we arrived here.
12:32 * asciilifeform finally up
12:33 Pierre_Rochard my point was only that traders gonna trade. The real cringeworthiness happened in 1984 when some old beans decided this was an acceptable way of doing business
12:33 williamdunne pete_dushenski: Is it not generally accepted that banking/law etc is engrained into Jewish culture
12:34 asciilifeform !rated chetty
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12:35 pete_dushenski williamdunne: if it is, where would that leave us ?
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12:36 williamdunne pete_dushenski: Exactly where we are now
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12:38 pete_dushenski williamdunne: which is where ?
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12:39 asciilifeform !rated mod6
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12:39 williamdunne pete_dushenski: A world where Jews are over-represented in banking and law?
12:40 pete_dushenski !unrate thickasthieves
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12:41 pete_dushenski williamdunne: define 'over-represented'. compared to what ? somalis ?
12:41 williamdunne pete_dushenski: The statistical average
12:42 asciilifeform !rate ben_vulpes 3 therealbitcoin.org. met in the flesh. fearless explorer, and jolly good fella.
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12:42 williamdunne Some brutal unrating going on today
12:42 BingoBoingo First adult Joo I met IRL drove choo choo trains
12:42 pete_dushenski !unrate kdomanski
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12:43 asciilifeform !rate mthreat 1 met in the flesh. aeronaut.
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12:43 pete_dushenski williamdunne: human skill and intelligence aren't on a gaussian distribution. average is meaningless in this context and by extension any relationship to it.
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12:44 williamdunne pete_dushenski: Doesn't seem irrelevant when comparing subsets of the wider context
12:44 pete_dushenski !v assbot:pete_dushenski.unrate.kdomanski:e33a49671278d1971aebe0412dc671d6e68df76818bbcedc75109ff16311dc31
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12:44 asciilifeform !rated hanbot
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12:45 pete_dushenski williamdunne: that's like saying that crack cocaine makes a lot of sense when you're living among homeless people in dumpsters.
12:45 asciilifeform !rate hanbot 3 had the honour of meeting in the flesh. author of 'shall be delivered.' guiding light from beyond the barbed wire.
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12:46 pete_dushenski williamdunne: you have no business over there in the first place
12:46 asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.hanbot.3:dcde945021741f2ba77ed99267bb2f5c8d12bc90b0273c7da057d12b15c7b359
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12:46 williamdunne pete_dushenski: I'm not suggesting I have any issue with it, if thats what you mean
12:46 asciilifeform !rated davout
12:46 assbot You rated user davout on 22-Apr-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: human!.
12:47 pete_dushenski williamdunne: not at all. and nor do i. just that the context has never and will never be evenly distributed. so no averages. so no predictions. no 'over-represented'
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12:47 asciilifeform !rate davout 2 met in the flesh. fearless French aeronaut.
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12:49 asciilifeform !unrate xplosionist
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12:52 williamdunne pete_dushenski: fair nuff'
12:52 williamdunne So whats with all the unrating going on today
12:53 pete_dushenski housecleaning friday!
12:56 danielpbarron pretty user interface is driving adoption!
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12:57 mike_c the conference generally sparks a rash of ratings.
12:58 Pierre_Rochard !rated justus_ranvier
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12:59 Pierre_Rochard !rate justusranvier -1 vociferous big block advocate http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2015/01/21/economic-fallacies-and-the-block-size-limit-part-1-scarcity/
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13:00 asciilifeform !rated nubbins`
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13:00 asciilifeform !rate nubbins` 1 pogoplug tester for therealbitcoin
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13:00 nubbins` hi
13:01 nubbins` busy week for me, how was c3?
13:01 asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.nubbins`.1:ea278f3a78fa685a35a52cb232faff3082b590c8eb754080fd2a5707d082ac2a
13:01 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for nubbins` with note: pogoplug tester for therealbitcoin
13:01 * nubbins` received a copyright infringement notice from his ISP on behalf of HBO yesterday
13:01 nubbins` :o
13:01 asciilifeform !rated danielpbarron
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13:02 nubbins` of note: the text of the notice was PGP-signed
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13:02 nubbins` but... gpg: BAD signature from "IP-Echelon Compliance <compliance@ip-echelon.com>"
13:02 asciilifeform !rate danielpbarron 2 pogoplug tester for therealbitcoin. enthusiastic hunter of lamers. plus a player of actual 'sokoban' in meatspace.
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13:03 danielpbarron lol
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13:03 nubbins` SOOOOO guess i'm gonna go ahead and ignore
13:03 danielpbarron i had to look that word up. seems to mean "warehouse keeper"
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13:03 pete_dushenski nubbins`: i heard about these being sent out. didn't know they came pgp-signed!
13:04 nubbins` well, they come "pgp"-"signed"/
13:04 asciilifeform nubbins`: this is not the first time i recall seeing pgp 'sprayed on for flavour'
13:05 nubbins` asciilifeform unfortunately, sprayed-on PGP indicates to me that this email is fraudulent
13:05 nubbins` so into the trash it goes
13:06 nubbins` and i have explicitly not been notified of any infringement activity
13:06 nubbins` funny how that works?
13:07 williamdunne nubbins`: Wait, did you have to type in the PGP sig?
13:07 asciilifeform nubbins`: out of curiosity, can you post the bad sig ?
13:07 asciilifeform or at least the key fp in it
13:08 williamdunne Oh, was an email
13:08 nubbins` 0xDE4B33712DAACFD6
13:08 nubbins` ^ lelelel there's ONE google result
13:09 nubbins` http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xDE4B33712DAACFD6
13:09 assbot Search results for '0xde4b33712daacfd6' ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCmjkf )
13:10 nubbins` aww, they have their own infringement XML schema
13:10 nubbins` http://www.acns.net/v1.2/ACNS2v1_2.xsd
13:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCmH2g )
13:11 nubbins` <Severity>Normal</Severity> <<< phew
13:13 asciilifeform !rated assbot
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13:14 nubbins` !rate asciilifeform 2 capable wizard, does things
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13:16 asciilifeform mike_c: iirc updated daily ?
13:16 mike_c yes, kako dumps the DB daily and I suck it up.
13:17 nubbins` that's what the lady said to the sailor
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13:23 mike_c hehe. it's kakos all the way down.
13:24 mats pgp sig is SOP for DMCA notices
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13:24 nubbins` is it SOP for the sig to be invalid?
13:24 mats happens a lot
13:25 * nubbins` rolls eyes
13:25 nubbins` this is like being arrested by a cop with a tin badge
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13:25 asciilifeform cardboard badge.
13:26 asciilifeform cut out of children's magazine
13:29 mats what are you doing to trigger an HBO infringement notice? try to catch some GoT on TPB?
13:32 pete_dushenski wow, even msft +10% today. nasdaqsanity.
13:35 funkenstein_ hi nubbins, i am guessing edk2000
13:36 Pierre_Rochard re msft: “Sales of Office 365 Home and Personal subscriptions were up 35 percent sequentially” <= people can’t afford to “own” office anymore, they rent it one month at a time
13:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37904 @ 0.00028671 = 10.8675 BTC [+] {2}
13:37 Pierre_Rochard leftists speak of financialization of the economy over the past ~40 years, seems as though this new era is timeshareization
13:40 mats http://www.realworldtech.com/intel-10nm-qwfet/
13:40 assbot What's Next for Moore's Law? For Intel, III+V = 10nm QWFETs ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCu7T1 )
13:52 mats http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article2100133.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-crowd-Copacabana-beach-in-Rio-de-Janeiro-waiting-for-the-arrival-of-Pope-Francis.jpg
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14:35 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108323 << how would we know?
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14:35 assbot Logged on 23-04-2015 16:16:55; mircea_popescu: we might well discover that actually 1mb is way too much, and all we can afford is less.
14:40 Adlai hashrate dropping too low -> need to increase mining subsidy, either by raising btc/fiat, or increasing tx fee competition
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14:42 Adlai ben_vulpes: https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/2015-04-24/?msg=37446878&page=3
14:42 assbot IRC Logs for #bitcoin-wizards | BotBot.me [o__o] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Olrdsy )
14:45 Adlai the nice thing about reducing blocksize is that the N largest miners could just agree to not produce larger blocks, and that would raise tx fees through market forces
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14:46 Pierre_Rochard Adlai: agreed, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986290
14:46 assbot Logged on 21-01-2015 18:35:01; gavinandresen: Pierre_Rochard: if Satoshi hadn’t slapped on a 1MB blocksize limit, would you be lobbying for a hardfork now to impose one?
14:47 Adlai bitcoin inflation relative to fiat prices is high enough that it's a non-issue... atm
14:48 Adlai let's see what happens in a halving or two :)
14:49 Pierre_Rochard I think it’s an issue today if we take into account NPV calculations - if gavincoin has zero future fee revenue, that has an immediate effect on the expected return of mining over the long run. Not sure that it would move the needle on today’s asic capex
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14:50 Pierre_Rochard (having uncertainty around it alone increases the npv discount rate)
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14:50 * ben_vulpes is entirely out of his depth
14:51 * Adlai is increasingly skeptical regarding the relevance of gavin's blocksize plans
14:51 ben_vulpes lol well we nuked it
14:51 Adlai let's say that i'm equally worried about gavincoin and the bitlicense
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14:52 * Pierre_Rochard wishes those advocating for larger block size limit realized the current limit is having _zero_ effect on adoption/price and that will continue to be the case for a while if not forever
14:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94272 @ 0.00029351 = 27.6698 BTC [+]
14:53 Adlai but but but fees are driving pay-to-dust sites out of business
14:53 Adlai we must preserve bitcoin's core business model!
14:53 Pierre_Rochard I’m pro-bitlicense, render unto caesar...
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14:54 williamdunne Pierre_Rochard: In fairness thats about the same as saying my internet speeds today aren't affecting my ability to do things, so it won't in the future.
14:54 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109641 <<< incidentally that's the same argument gavin is making with his "miners cartel"
14:54 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:45:19; Adlai: the nice thing about reducing blocksize is that the N largest miners could just agree to not produce larger blocks, and that would raise tx fees through market forces
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14:54 Pierre_Rochard williamdunne: it’s the same as saying your internet provider can continue charging you through the nose and you’ll continue thanking them for the privilege - inelasticity of demand
14:55 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109651 <<< how's the bitlicense even worth the mention?
14:55 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:51:37; Adlai: let's say that i'm equally worried about gavincoin and the bitlicense
14:55 Adlai davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-04-2015#1109647
14:55 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:50:38; Pierre_Rochard: (having uncertainty around it alone increases the npv discount rate)
14:56 davout wat
14:56 williamdunne Pierre_Rochard: 1mb blocksize is inelasticity of supply, is it not?
14:56 williamdunne I'm not promoting Gavin's proposal, as it is definitely stupid
14:57 williamdunne But does seem like the block-size will need to increase at some stage(s) if we're to continue growth
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14:57 Pierre_Rochard williamdunne: yes, supply inelasticity meets demand inelasticity -> high transaction fees -> high hash rate -> maximize security
14:57 danielpbarron who is caesar?
14:57 Pierre_Rochard NYDFS
14:58 williamdunne Pierre_Rochard: But also makes it less appealing. Security isn't the only objective
14:58 danielpbarron when did rome fall? at what point is caesar no longer caesar?
14:58 Adlai davout: both gavincoin and the bitlicense are clouds on the horizon. some people sell coins for raincoats and umbrellas... though they may be wiser to stick a wet finger in the air
14:58 funkenstein_ high TX fees also compete with off chain solutions
14:58 Pierre_Rochard williamdunne: I agree, demand destruction is part of revenue maximization, pushes the hoi polloi onto off-chain alternatives
14:59 ben_vulpes <williamdunne> But does seem like the block-size will need to increase at some stage(s) if we're to continue growth << dude again with this growth bugaboo
14:59 Adlai oh i know how we can turn reddit against gavincoin... the blocksize limit is good for changetip!
14:59 williamdunne Pierre_Rochard: Would it not be preferable to be in a situation where blocks are routinely filled at low-ish fees.
14:59 ben_vulpes fuck off and DIE
14:59 williamdunne ben_vulpes: I know you disagree, but I personally would like to see more people/companies/whatevers using bitcoin
15:00 davout Adlai: the bitlicense is to bitcoin what US raw milk regulations are to roquefort, not fucking worth the mention
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15:00 * danielpbarron strongly suspects that the greatest impediment to growth is cleaning up the code
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15:00 Adlai williamdunne: and i would like to see the people who _use_ bitcoin paying for its security, rather than the people who hold it
15:00 * Pierre_Rochard would vote for “time” as the strongest impediment to growth
15:00 Adlai "use" as in "spend"
15:00 ben_vulpes williamdunne: the people i want using bitcoin take one look at the source and run screaming, as they should
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15:01 Adlai the security is being paid for one way or another; currently, the main way is inflation
15:01 williamdunne Adlai: We're in agreement there, I'm not suggesting that we're ever to put ourselves in a position where blocks are huge and no-one is paying. I'm just suggesting that 1mb is no way near enough for bitcoin to be bigger than it is today
15:01 danielpbarron that the network could still accidentally fork over a bug is the reason we aren't seeing billions and trillions invested into bitcoin
15:01 funkenstein_ i think the point is more people can use bitcoin at any block size.
15:02 funkenstein_ it's a different payment model
15:03 williamdunne funkenstein_: Pretty much. I disagree with Gavin because it essentially makes the blocks infinitely large, but I disagree with some people here because 7tx/s doesn't even cover SWIFT payments
15:04 Adlai danielpbarron: well, that can always be the case... we can decrease the perceived risk through simpler code, testing, and more time since the last accidental fork, but yknow, "unknown unknowns"
15:04 danielpbarron williamdunne, you got a lotta log readin' to do
15:04 williamdunne danielpbarron: I'm not suggesting that bitcoin replaces SWIFT just to be clear.. I just meant because it covers giga+ payments
15:04 williamdunne Where fees are the norm
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15:04 ben_vulpes williamdunne: stop thinking swift, start thinking halawa
15:05 danielpbarron let the former swift users figure out how to fit through the new hole
15:05 Adlai stop thinking either, start thinking tankers full of gold
15:05 ben_vulpes Adlai: hm?
15:06 * Adlai imagines hawala also has higher throughput and lower transaction importance than the hypothetical bitcoin-in-ten-halvings
15:07 jurov anyone thought about how the bitcoin hawala ought to work?
15:07 williamdunne jurov: Yes
15:07 Adlai http://lightning.network
15:07 assbot The Bitcoin Lightning Network ... ( http://bit.ly/1bpjyaW )
15:07 williamdunne jurov: I designed a similar-ish system based on a network of brokerages
15:07 williamdunne jurov: Somewhat trustless
15:08 ben_vulpes no no, not the halawa for the muslim at the mosque
15:08 ben_vulpes the halawa of cartels.
15:08 Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-02-2015#1035451 < actually, this obviates the need for a microtransaction sidechain
15:08 assbot Logged on 27-02-2015 16:28:48; ben_vulpes: http://lightning.network/lightning-network.pdf << scaling, sidechains, derpage.
15:08 Adlai lightning is precisely bitcoin hawala
15:09 * Adlai feeds the head, bbl
15:09 funkenstein_ payment channels sound great, trustless off-chain TX heaven
15:09 jurov !s asciilifeform timelock
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15:09 jurov and other discussion. it has its problems
15:09 ben_vulpes Adlai: dood mpex is bitcoin halawa
15:09 ben_vulpes you can push single satoshis around on mpex
15:09 jurov ben_vulpes: you stretch it too much
15:10 ben_vulpes jurov: come again?
15:10 jurov the hawala definition
15:10 jurov or you came up with this new term - halawa?
15:10 ben_vulpes i thought i was using it correctly
15:11 ben_vulpes ah no hawala
15:11 ben_vulpes i was always under the impression that there was no single hawala network.
15:11 ben_vulpes how could there be? it is of necessity a meatwot thing.
15:11 funkenstein_ as i see it these channels will require private TXs, that is given directly to miners, to avoid malleability issues
15:14 ben_vulpes (entirely aside, in a fevered moment of sleeplessness on the plane from bsas i looked into ripping out the nonstandard transaction relay blocking stuff)
15:14 jurov traditional hawala seems to work without much technology, why sudden need to introduce nonstd or private TXs?
15:14 ben_vulpes (subject of, davout how goes the testnet excision? my digs show less than 50 mentions throughout the whole codebase)
15:15 funkenstein_ afaik hawala doesn't come with failsafe refunds in case somebody goes awol
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15:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 159 @ 0.016799 = 2.671 BTC [-]
15:16 ben_vulpes ya well stop trying to impose derpy fiat notions on bitcoin
15:17 ben_vulpes you're just going to hurt your head
15:17 ben_vulpes either trust your counterparties and deal with them, or don't and don't.
15:17 ben_vulpes none of this half-assed "dear state or magic maths please save me from my own derpitude"
15:17 davout funkenstein_: malleability is currently being soft-forked away by power rangers
15:18 ben_vulpes davout: a change to block inclusion rules?
15:18 funkenstein_ davout, is that all ok and likely to be folded into reference impls?
15:18 davout ben_vulpes: testnet excision is easy, making the genesis block configurable is the harder part, you also need some standalone tool to generate genesis blocks
15:18 ben_vulpes mhm, i see it.
15:18 ben_vulpes write a standalone wallet while yer at it :P
15:19 ben_vulpes (i was just thanked by someone who plugged into the same outlet as me. wtf.)
15:19 ben_vulpes (outletpair, actually, and the unused one.)
15:19 davout funkenstein_: dunno, if i'm asked i'm all for canonical txids
15:20 davout ben_vulpes: so my plan is to start bu something easier, probably ripping out the "accounts" braindamage to get familiar with the build and patching process
15:21 funkenstein_ if it is as simple as adding a SIGtype, that sounds fine but my understanding was there was still some subtleties on the table and gmaxwell said wait 2 years
15:21 ben_vulpes davout: my hero!
15:22 funkenstein_ ben_vulpes, well in fairness you do have less current available now :)
15:23 davout funkenstein_: not sure what exactly is implied, so i'll refrain from commenting further
15:23 davout interested in references if you have any available
15:23 ben_vulpes davout: aren't txids canonical after block inclusion?
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15:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78250 @ 0.00029766 = 23.2919 BTC [+] {2}
15:24 davout ben_vulpes: whichever is included in a block is frozen in the amber, but it's not necessarily the version that has canonical DER-encoded sigs
15:39 funkenstein_ thanks davout, anyway I should keep better notes but I was starting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033396.0;all
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15:39 assbot Semi-soft-fork to decrease the risk of tx malleability ... ( http://bit.ly/1EA8FjG )
15:41 funkenstein_ and this talk seemed decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zVzw912wPo
15:41 assbot SF Bitcoin Devs Seminar: Scaling Bitcoin to Billions of Transactions Per Day - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EA931K )
15:41 trinque davout | well, you, just pushing that to the extreme to show that, even though i hardly ever use it, this unstructured nosql approach sometimes is useful, and isn't *inherently* evil like you seem to imply << there is no such thing as unstructured data, only a question of how rigorously structured it is, and what is used to enforce that.
15:41 trinque the enforcement of structure can live in the component you're using to store data, or in your application layer
15:42 trinque to the extent that you choose to implement it yourself in an application layer, your efforts will approach what is already present and has 40+ years of research behind it in relational databases
15:44 trinque you'll reinvent constraints, referential integrity, transactions, so on and so on
15:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102750 @ 0.00029778 = 30.5969 BTC [+]
15:46 Pierre_Rochard trinque: I’ve seen this first hand. Unfortunately the reinvention doesn’t happen until problems arise and the sunk costs prevent a switch to SQL
15:47 trinque Pierre_Rochard: indeed, I've done it to myself
15:47 trinque speaking from experience
15:47 Pierre_Rochard “painted into a corner” is the phrase that comes to mind
15:50 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109367 << you actually getting any packet spam or is that thing history by now ?
15:50 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 15:01:11; williamdunne: Eh, not too concerned about it
15:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109378 << this is sensible.
15:51 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 16:12:23; mats: i started buying AMZN after it became clear they had intentions of becoming a USG contractor
15:52 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109387 "brazen chats" are like "anyone could have foreseen pirate was a scam because string pirate in name"
15:52 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 16:16:52; williamdunne: I suppose the "cringe" is about how brazen it was
15:55 davout trinque: nah, my point was that the rdbms-should-enforce-all-structure approach isn't very sensible, unless you're ok eventuall ending up with a spelling and grammar checker for your text fields
15:55 davout *eventually
15:55 trinque maybe we are talking past each other
15:55 trinque I agree with that.
15:56 trinque davout: however, what's wrong with a before trigger that does precisely that?
15:56 trinque playing devil's advocate
15:56 trinque there's no real reason why the db can't be involved in application logic
15:56 trinque postgresql for example is highly programmable
15:56 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109474 << you know the mathematical criteria for a set to include its average is not "even distribution"
15:56 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 16:47:53; pete_dushenski: williamdunne: not at all. and nor do i. just that the context has never and will never be evenly distributed. so no averages. so no predictions. no 'over-represented'
15:57 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109486 << not even joking.
15:57 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 16:56:32; danielpbarron: pretty user interface is driving adoption!
15:58 davout trinque: i'm not getting dragged into "where should application logic live" debates :-)
15:58 mircea_popescu o look, nubbins` survived the oven monster!
15:59 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109509 << you gotta post this thingm
15:59 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 17:02:05; nubbins`: of note: the text of the notice was PGP-signed
15:59 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109517 << sokoban is this ancient knapsack problemizer implemented for ms-dos. it was a riot. as famous as tetris.
15:59 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 17:03:46; danielpbarron: i had to look that word up. seems to mean "warehouse keeper"
16:00 mircea_popescu http://www.sokobanonline.com/
16:00 assbot Play and Build Classic and Modern Sokoban Puzzles! - Sokoban Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAcBkG )
16:01 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109757 <<< interesting
16:01 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:39:31; funkenstein_: thanks davout, anyway I should keep better notes but I was starting here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1033396.0;all
16:02 mircea_popescu "semi soft" ?!
16:02 trinque davout | trinque: i'm not getting dragged into "where should application logic live" debates :-) << can be quite enjoyable as long as one's not personally attached to the outcome
16:03 trinque obviously any truism in systems design can be undone by a particular case
16:03 davout word
16:04 davout on a completely unrelated note, has anyone here ever had lasik surgery?
16:04 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109573 << ahaha great rating.
16:04 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 17:21:58; asciilifeform: !rate kakobrekla 4 expert infrastructural welder. holds up the sky.
16:04 mircea_popescu davout no, because we use large fonts.
16:04 davout kek
16:05 davout just had it, looking for some feedback wrt dry eyes
16:05 mircea_popescu i thought you had to drip-refill them every hour.
16:05 mircea_popescu don't they give you a special dropper ?
16:06 davout i have like 4 different ones
16:06 davout i keep feeling like "hey, i should take my contacts off, they're getting dry", except there are none to take out
16:07 mircea_popescu so have your bf squirt in your eyes.
16:07 davout sticky eyelids? no thanks
16:07 mircea_popescu but srsly : should prolly talk to the doctor. iirc this is an early sympthom.
16:08 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109578 << so it is, except if random derps in canada are doing it.
16:08 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 17:24:04; mats: pgp sig is SOP for DMCA notices
16:08 mircea_popescu then they get butthurt when people say they have nfi what they're doing.
16:08 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109582 << problem is the ascii involved. everyone plays with the bits. usually material is singed pre-emailing, whiuch then wordwrap(80)s
16:08 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 17:25:09; nubbins`: this is like being arrested by a cop with a tin badge
16:10 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109636 << well obvously we'd be also discovering how to know on the same ticket.
16:10 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:35:31; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108323 << how would we know?
16:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109638 << or the year is 2800 and the blockchain's too heavy. or or or.
16:11 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:40:54; Adlai: hashrate dropping too low -> need to increase mining subsidy, either by raising btc/fiat, or increasing tx fee competition
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16:13 mircea_popescu lol where ios this !?
16:13 chetty paypal says they are changing the tou to include this
16:14 chetty https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full?locale.x=GB
16:14 assbot PayPal ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAfEZY )
16:14 trinque where do they have a place to post content?
16:14 trinque like if you upload a logo to your payment page, you don't own that logo?
16:15 chetty so it would seem not sure what 'providing us with content means', just selling thing via them?
16:15 mircea_popescu seems like it could be so construed o.O
16:15 trinque seems like uploading a png is providing content yeah
16:16 trinque hilarious
16:16 mircea_popescu lmao
16:16 mircea_popescu so wait, they seriously expect a claim in the trademarks of everyone selling through them ?!
16:16 chetty well thats how it reads to me, but I not lawyer :P
16:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109646 << i don't think so. it has an effect on its relevancy for mining, not on mining itself.
16:16 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:49:21; Pierre_Rochard: I think it’s an issue today if we take into account NPV calculations - if gavincoin has zero future fee revenue, that has an immediate effect on the expected return of mining over the long run. Not sure that it would move the needle on today’s asic capex
16:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109656 << once the commissioner duly asks for and receives his commision here, i'm all for it too.
16:17 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:53:59; Pierre_Rochard: I’m pro-bitlicense, render unto caesar...
16:17 mircea_popescu before, it's just fraud.
16:17 Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: ah agreed, important distinction
16:18 mircea_popescu stuff like "herp, polyanna boring printed herself a princess crown".
16:18 mircea_popescu that shit's for 11yos.
16:18 Pierre_Rochard well I’m a gaullist, I tend to respect sovereignties as a matter of realpolitik
16:18 mircea_popescu o yeah ? how many tank divisions does the city of new york have ?
16:19 Pierre_Rochard only need a swat team to raid a btc<->fiat exchange, they have a few
16:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109659 << you deeply misunderstand what "market forces" are.
16:19 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:54:24; assbot: Logged on 24-04-2015 18:45:19; Adlai: the nice thing about reducing blocksize is that the N largest miners could just agree to not produce larger blocks, and that would raise tx fees through market forces
16:20 mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard only thing that'll accomplish will be exchanges with emplaced mortar batteries and landmine perimeters.
16:20 trinque I believe the term Adlai is looking for is cartel
16:20 mircea_popescu i believe the education adlai lacks is the failure of "cornering the X market" historically.
16:21 mircea_popescu silver being a fine example if one is superficial enough to only look at one example.
16:21 mircea_popescu but, very simply put : the hand of the market is the hand bitchslapping you. the market is not your mother.
16:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109668 << how do you know it won't have to be lowered ?
16:22 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 18:57:06; williamdunne: But does seem like the block-size will need to increase at some stage(s) if we're to continue growth
16:22 mircea_popescu on an infinite timeline everything's equally likely, for one thing. so define your timeline. once you do that, how do you know + from - ?
16:22 mircea_popescu "i'm sure" is no argument.
16:23 mircea_popescu mike_c : Num Ratings, Average Rating, Average Rating (Magnitude) can get a tooltip definition/explanation ?
16:24 mike_c yes
16:24 mircea_popescu and i derped more at you earier, dunno if you got
16:26 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109682 << speaking of ... lactic cultures, dja know the urbanization of usians is the main force in the bidet market these days ?
16:26 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:00:12; davout: Adlai: the bitlicense is to bitcoin what US raw milk regulations are to roquefort, not fucking worth the mention
16:26 davout iirc someone managed to build the reference implementation on OSX amirite?
16:26 mircea_popescu iirc it was nubs
16:26 mod6 yeah.
16:27 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109683 << that, tied for preminence with "cleaning out the idiots". and i don't as much mean the random derps in the forum going about their usual derpage, as i mean people like the scam foundation, and the power rangers, and so on.
16:27 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:00:14; *: danielpbarron strongly suspects that the greatest impediment to growth is cleaning up the code
16:27 davout mircea_popescu mod6 ty
16:27 mircea_popescu biggest impediment to adoption, gavin, vessenes, "professional" derps and so on.
16:27 mod6 davout: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000073.html
16:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gglvi3 )
16:28 davout ah, wunderbar
16:28 davout looking at it ty
16:28 mod6 np :]
16:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4835 @ 0.00029778 = 1.4398 BTC [+]
16:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109687 << ayup.
16:30 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:00:59; ben_vulpes: williamdunne: the people i want using bitcoin take one look at the source and run screaming, as they should
16:32 mircea_popescu nobody can take it seriously with derps a la gavin, luke, hearn & co involved.
16:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109697 <<< seems to me most of the people discussing swift in bitcoin have very little experience or understanding of financial networks.
16:33 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:04:56; williamdunne: Where fees are the norm
16:34 mircea_popescu for one thing, a small fraction of swift movements are ~actual~ settlement transactions.
16:34 mircea_popescu if the banks had to make swift work with 500 txn/day, they would, and nobody would ever know.
16:34 mircea_popescu there's only ~100 of them even needing it daily, and they could just do hourly settlements among each other and be fine.
16:35 mircea_popescu that they don't has everything to do with the fact that swift consts nothing (and provides nothing). bitcoin costs something, and it provides something for that cost. in spades.
16:35 mircea_popescu so... inept comparison, at best.
16:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109733 << depends. if banker goes and gets himself lost in desert, the probate court will settle claims against him. so refunds of a sort.
16:38 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:15:24; funkenstein_: afaik hawala doesn't come with failsafe refunds in case somebody goes awol
16:39 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109754 << they are, yeah.
16:39 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 19:23:28; ben_vulpes: davout: aren't txids canonical after block inclusion?
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16:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform key churning started yet ? i kinda wanna peek at top while it's going
16:59 williamdunne 20:50:53 - mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2015#1109367 << you actually getting any packet spam or is that thing history by now ? << I've not experienced any either way
16:59 assbot Logged on 24-04-2015 15:01:11; williamdunne: Eh, not too concerned about it
17:02 mircea_popescu Overheard over coffee:
17:02 mircea_popescu A. "In some ways, one could argue that our boss fills some roles of the man we are in a relationship with. He supports us financially, ensures we have a safe place to live, and has to accommodate our emotional instability in the work place. Is it really all that unfair of him to expect to enjoy some of the perks of being in a relationship with us, if he so chooses?"
17:02 mircea_popescu B. "I have had sex with almost every boss I’ve ever had. I found myself doing things to please them that I would never do for my husband."
17:02 mircea_popescu C. "I’ve got a habit of fucking my bosses too. They’re in a position of power over me, and for at least part of the day they’re my owners, so they should be able to reap the benefits of that."
17:02 BingoBoingo williamdunne: The reddit police tried to impound this place with a Denial of Service bot, hard to tell if they will be back
17:02 mircea_popescu was it teh reddit police ?
17:03 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's what the 502 guy called himself
17:03 williamdunne How heroic of them
17:03 BingoBoingo !s fivezerotwo
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17:03 mircea_popescu i thought that was a joke.
17:06 BingoBoingo Gotta take seriously that the idiots believe their pretenses
17:07 BingoBoingo They have idea after all
17:10 BingoBoingo Anyways, who is truly to say that reddit wouldn't hire pinkertons for $5.15 an hour
17:14 BingoBoingo Or a nickle a line
17:29 chetty http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/noticias/2015/04/150422_volcan_calbuco_erupcion_chile_ao
17:29 assbot Alerta roja en Chile por la sorpresiva erupción del volcán Calbuco - BBC Mundo ... ( http://bit.ly/1DId11D )
17:36 BingoBoingo http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Buffalo-roaming-in-Bethlehem-6221286.php
17:36 assbot All buffalo shot and killed - Times Union ... ( http://bit.ly/1EAvhAD )
17:37 mircea_popescu ouch
17:44 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: key churning started yet ? i kinda wanna peek << not yet. caught something on the plane, spent most of the time since coming home, in bed, in a kind of delirium.
17:44 mircea_popescu ;/
17:44 mircea_popescu well on the plus side it prolly helps your immunity
17:45 asciilifeform also catching up with pet, might end up like xanthyos, l0l
17:46 mircea_popescu !up jonvaage
17:46 mircea_popescu how did he end up ?
17:46 asciilifeform in cock cast, iirc
17:46 mircea_popescu oh
17:47 jonvaage Thanks. How is everyone?
17:47 mircea_popescu not bad.
17:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform maybe next conf YOU stay home, send her over then she can do all the whores.
17:47 asciilifeform l0l
17:53 jonvaage Anyone ever play the board game Diplomacy?
17:53 asciilifeform me.
17:54 mircea_popescu the last time i played a board game i was 8, and it was "nu te supara frate". alf, did you have this ? you must've.
17:54 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CY-aApQAnM
17:54 assbot Nu te supara frate...private game in birt - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIfRUp )
17:55 asciilifeform pretty sure we had this. and that john nash invented it in the '50s
17:55 asciilifeform in usa, where it was forgotten
17:55 jonvaage Looks like "Sorry"
17:55 mircea_popescu well it's not a very good game tbh.
17:55 asciilifeform or was it 'hex'
17:56 mircea_popescu anyway, apparently it was printed as early as the 20s
17:57 * asciilifeform did not really play anything like this since early boyhood, was a semiserious chess-head for some years, then turned into very mediocre go/weichi/baduk (surprised how many folks are unable to identify it given only one of jp/cn/kr names) player
17:57 mircea_popescu i kinda play go now and again as part of foreplay.
17:58 asciilifeform l0l!
17:58 asciilifeform chess?
17:58 mircea_popescu nope
17:58 asciilifeform me: 'which chess piece feels best?' woman: 'the board'
17:58 mircea_popescu ahahaha
17:58 mircea_popescu and now we understand why davout plays the cello.
17:59 asciilifeform aha go as foreplay - do captured stones end up 'in' ?
17:59 mircea_popescu has been known to occur.
17:59 mircea_popescu all sorts of things can end up in. like, a can's worth of peas.
18:00 asciilifeform l0l
18:00 * mircea_popescu very naively went to a go friendly tournament in timisoara once, not realising that... kids.
18:00 mircea_popescu they made me play with a very prepubescent 11 yo girl.
18:00 mircea_popescu i... had to leave.
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18:00 asciilifeform mega-l0l
18:01 BingoBoingo !b 3
18:01 assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0V2NPMZ.txt )
18:01 asciilifeform it is actually one of those things, like ballet, where the best minds are the one prepubertally-deformed
18:01 mircea_popescu yeah well, i'm not such a great fan of "competitive" humans.
18:02 asciilifeform the games are interesting (to an aficionado) to read.
18:02 mircea_popescu the prima ballerina was never the best ballerina, at least to my taste.
18:02 asciilifeform my brother, for instance, spends much of his waking time doing this.
18:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 291026 @ 0.0002985 = 86.8713 BTC [+] {2}
18:03 * asciilifeform now understands why mircea_popescu did not offer any of the c3 guests a game of go. 'no homo' (TM)
18:03 mircea_popescu i don't think i ever played with a male.
18:03 asciilifeform phun phakt: the top u.s. player, for many years, was a hot chick
18:04 mircea_popescu and rarely if at all with a woman neither in a robe nor altogether disrobed.
18:04 mircea_popescu o, really ? who ?
18:04 asciilifeform j. kim i think it was
18:04 asciilifeform http://senseis.xmp.net/?JaniceKim << i think this
18:04 assbot Janice Kim at Sensei's Library ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIhnWu )
18:05 * Adlai would be quite curious to see the mining cartel attempt to corner down a less-than-1mb blocksize, primarily because it would be Actually Good News™
18:06 mircea_popescu http://8ch.net/pol/res/1817286.html heh
18:06 assbot /pol/ - Dude trolls the shit out of Fetlife. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIhHVb )
18:08 Adlai how does it feel to be internet famouser
18:08 mircea_popescu isn't 8chan the bad one ?
18:08 BingoBoingo lol https://8ch.net/pol/res/1817286.html#1825098
18:08 assbot /pol/ - Dude trolls the shit out of Fetlife. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Epidw9 )
18:09 cazalla mircea_popescu, nope, 8chan is the 4chan replacement seeing moot got cucked
18:09 BingoBoingo 8chan is where the 4chan refugees went when moot went derpitty herp herp
18:09 * asciilifeform eagerly awaits 4294967296chan
18:10 mircea_popescu i thought it's where all the privileged white maletriarchs go to be horrible and chauvinistic and encourage rape and stuff ?
18:10 cazalla moot cuck thing went something like this http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/53/5f/535f6e_5335133.jpg
18:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpiLC5 )
18:10 mircea_popescu i seem to remember reading in salami.com
18:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i thought it's where all the privileged white maletriarchs go to be horrible and chauvinistic and encourage rape and stuff ? << nah, that's at 18446744073709551616chan.
18:13 mircea_popescu cazalla for some stupid reason that loads nothing for me.
18:15 * Pierre_Rochard is regular lurker on 8chan’s pol
18:16 mircea_popescu anything good ?
18:16 mircea_popescu intel points out 8chan owner was actually in here at some point.
18:16 cazalla mircea_popescu, meh not really missing anything anyway
18:19 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/a-proper-social-site-for-the-bdsm-community/#comment-113887 << as far as i can tell, the thing being proposed is virtually exactly lavabit...
18:19 assbot A proper social site for the BDSM community on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIjEAT )
18:19 Pierre_Rochard it covers everything outside the overton window, with a good dose of humor and absurdity to boot
18:19 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/24/us-usa-election-fec-idUSKBN0NF1V420150424 << fire sale, get 'em while they last!
18:19 assbot FEC decision may allow more foreign money in U.S. votes, critics say| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIjERz )
18:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform pretty sure lavabit had a master key
18:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the subpoena concerned their ssl signing key
18:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this was precisely because they did not have anything else suitable for owning the userbase
18:21 mircea_popescu but the defense claimed that if they give out that key they will expose all past traffic.
18:21 * asciilifeform reviews the shitpile
18:23 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#footnote_2_49734 <
18:23 assbot So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DIkkGF )
18:23 mircea_popescu "I only have the keys that govern communications into and out of the network, and those keys are used to secure the traffic for all users, not just the user in question."
18:24 asciilifeform well yeah, the ssl cert
18:24 asciilifeform they wanted to mitm the whole thing
18:24 asciilifeform because it was the only way to get the snowden crap out
18:24 mircea_popescu it's not very clear, but perhaps your reading is correct
18:25 asciilifeform this, incidentally, is the core reason why in-browser crypto is intrinsically harmful
18:25 mircea_popescu seems kinda contorted, the ssl key is used to "secure" pgp'd info ?
18:25 asciilifeform rather than the overall poor hygience of the ecosystem
18:25 mircea_popescu which is "this" ?
18:25 asciilifeform the ssl key was the only way for the schmucks/users to know that they are connecting to levison's box and getting the js they thought they were getting
18:26 asciilifeform rather than an identical but key-returning one
18:26 mircea_popescu umm... no ?
18:26 mircea_popescu schmucks can just keep a copy of yest's js and DIFF IT!!11
18:26 mircea_popescu what, this is not sop ? because why ?
18:26 asciilifeform if you know how to use 'diff' - you are not a schmuck
18:26 asciilifeform and don't need browser-crypto for anything
18:26 mircea_popescu convenience.
18:26 asciilifeform convenience is the mother of calamity
18:26 asciilifeform or how did it go.
18:27 * asciilifeform adjusts reactor rods
18:27 mircea_popescu calamity is one of the best anal sluts in the lands.
18:27 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/calamity-jane/
18:27 assbot Calamity Jane on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpmNKO )
18:32 asciilifeform mircea_popescu leads us to an interesting observation - that no www browser ever made any kind of provision for ensuring that you are running a particular known copy of a js proggy
18:33 asciilifeform though this may be for the same reason why no public toilet includes knives and forks
18:33 mircea_popescu actually, this is trivial to do.
18:33 asciilifeform of course trivial
18:33 mircea_popescu basically an equiv of adblocker,
18:33 mircea_popescu just have it use your own file for js instead of the one linked by server.
18:33 asciilifeform homework-grade proggy.
18:33 asciilifeform who wants - go, write.
18:34 mircea_popescu well site first.
18:35 asciilifeform of course, when the browser is pwned (and all modern graphical browsers are good for one or two public total-demolition pwnholes every quarter or so) the keys are out.
18:35 asciilifeform hygiene is a thing.
18:35 asciilifeform it is good for you. (to a degree)
18:36 Pierre_Rochard ^ I’m surprised it’s not a bigger attack vector for online banking hijacks (or is it? unfamiliar with ~ cyber crime ~)
18:36 asciilifeform is.
18:36 asciilifeform and very much so.
18:37 mircea_popescu http://8ch.net/pol/src/1429803885757.jpg << lawl ok this /pol/ thing is pretty entertaining.
18:37 mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard places that are serious about online banking mandate use of ie 10! and they get their sexurity as activex implants!
18:38 mircea_popescu (this may sound like a joke. it is actually fact.)
18:38 asciilifeform in kr - mandatory.
18:38 asciilifeform and look into why - will blow your mind, guaranteed.
18:38 mircea_popescu exaclty.
18:39 asciilifeform (their local version of nsa is so impoverished that '80s-grade castrato keys must be used. the only way to achieve this is custom winblows code, rather than microshit's normal crypto api even. hence activex/exploder mandate.)
18:39 Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: here’s a joke for you - I run a WinXP 32 bit VM so that I can use 32 bit IE8 so that I can access online bank
18:40 Pierre_Rochard only version that’s compatible
18:41 mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard i've never used "online banking".
18:41 Pierre_Rochard rich man / poor man
18:42 mircea_popescu i do have some acct manager ppl who are technically bank clerks that i contact via pgp, which is a greast improvemnent over phone and i have nfi how they get into the systems
18:42 mircea_popescu but prolly the magic of "inside the firewall no security is needed"
18:44 mircea_popescu http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2014/09/01/i-can-destroy-your-reputation-and-career-in-two-minutes-n1885724/page/full
18:44 assbot I Can Destroy Your Reputation and Career in Two Minutes - Rachel Alexander - Page full ... ( http://bit.ly/1DInDgO )
18:45 mircea_popescu linked for "Slimy folks like “Busta Troll” are hijacking Facebook pages of conservatives, replacing the content with goats and anti-conservative messages. Some believe a goat is used because it is a Satanic symbol; many of the conservatives are targeted because of their Christian or Jewish views."
18:45 mircea_popescu yeah, totally. because idiots that are too stupid to have been online for goatse get to reinvent an alt-universe where "satanism"
18:59 mircea_popescu ;;later tell FelipeMicaroniLalli https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/335jn0/p2p_lending_i_just_loaned_100_peeps_bitcoin_on/ lawl
18:59 assbot P2P Lending: I just loaned 100 peeps bitcoin on BTCJam. Here's some of my thoughts. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yYIH7a )
18:59 gribble Error: That is an invalid IRC nick. Please check your input.
19:07 mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/cc683d6b70aa94f98c07d0654cf41f6c/tumblr_mwmuwlB1G61slq74qo1_1280.jpg saved for later.
19:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yYK3i7 )
19:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36150 @ 0.00031017 = 11.2126 BTC [+]
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19:55 mircea_popescu !up blacktower
19:59 blacktower hello hello! just learning all of this, won't derp it up. glad to be a part of the community!
20:00 mircea_popescu mike_c also, could "Timestamp" space be about 75% larger so it doesn't force double lines ?
20:00 mircea_popescu !gettrust blacktower
20:00 assbot blacktower is not registered in WoT.
20:00 mircea_popescu you're not part of the community yet.
20:01 Pierre_Rochard blacktower: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
20:01 assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5SsCt )
20:01 blacktower having trouble with nickserv right now, perf thanks for the urls. ill get that going
20:14 cazalla Pierre_Rochard, back on twitter or an imposter?
20:15 Pierre_Rochard cazalla: back on twitter, couldn’t stay off!
20:16 mircea_popescu lol, all teh hawt bitchez ?
20:18 Pierre_Rochard primal scream therapy
20:28 mike_c mircea_popescu: yes
20:41 ben_vulpes ahhh
20:41 ben_vulpes home sweet home sheets
20:41 asciilifeform ben_vulpes also rode 'spam air' ?
20:42 ben_vulpes how did that song go?
20:42 ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHPkLuVBQ1Y
20:42 assbot The Presidents of the USA - Naked and Famous - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DlKoa6 )
20:42 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: naw, united and alaska
20:43 asciilifeform lol alaska
20:44 ben_vulpes what's wrong with alaska?
20:44 asciilifeform nothing wrong, quite opposite,
20:44 asciilifeform 'There are strange things done in the midnight sun / By the men who moil for gold; / The Arctic trails have their secret tales / That would make your blood run cold; ...'
20:44 * asciilifeform did not know they had airline
20:45 ben_vulpes oh you
20:47 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cmmuQ8wYV0 << filmization
20:47 assbot The Cremation of Sam McGee. - 8 minute short 35mm film - - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DlKHkZ )
20:54 mircea_popescu !rate ben_vulpes -1 said naked and famous, there's no naked and not famous. ponzi!
20:54 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/a5a4d7115cba46a6
20:57 cazalla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quujBgm2y6I rather amusing this is pretty much par at the qntra office
20:57 assbot selo qntra - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FkQGg4 )
20:57 cazalla (the drinking, not the men)
21:03 decimation asciilifeform: you didn't take one of the luxurious american airlines?
21:03 asciilifeform nope.
21:04 decimation actually I've found us air carriers are the worst
21:04 asciilifeform not, evidently, the worst.
21:04 decimation in terms of cattle-class treatment
21:05 decimation although american airlines tend to have among the more competent pilots
21:09 decimation where else are you gonna find a guy with experience flying under fire in 'nam
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21:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00031355 = 9.9709 BTC [+] {2}
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21:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41750 @ 0.00031384 = 13.1028 BTC [+]
21:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55140 @ 0.00030972 = 17.078 BTC [-]
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22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.00031486 = 17.5377 BTC [+] {2}
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23:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.0003104 = 9.9949 BTC [-]
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23:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00031041 = 7.3102 BTC [+]
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23:42 danielpbarron ;;later tell williamdunne is this you? http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mrwdunne/
23:42 assbot mrwdunne WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnlL55 )
23:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:47 danielpbarron height=334315 vs height=353419 (note that the 2nd value is now greater. I have copied data dir from a full node)
23:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.0003104 = 3.7714 BTC [-]
23:49 danielpbarron i copied the data dir from a 0.7.2 node and the foundation's pre-0.5.3.1 loaded it fine and is now adding blocks to it
23:58 decimation danielpbarron: do you mean the latest 0.5.3.1 build?
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