#trilema | 2015-02-01

1. First, oil is used primarily for transportation and not to produce electricity, whereas renewables play an increasing role in producing electricity. In other words, oil and renewables are not direct competitors.

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2. Second, over the longer run, because of continuing technological improvements, the prices of renewables, especially solar power, are likely to drop much faster than is the case for commodity-based fuels such as oil. The prices of commodity-based fuels, which are traded in deep, liquid markets, also tend to be more volatile than those of renewables, for which there tend to be no separate markets (especially fo

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r fuels that are just inputs into generation of electricity).

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because in greenlandia, deep liquid markets are more volatile than thin illiquid ones

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ok scratch that, liquidity should increase volatility in the short-term but illiquid markets have larger fat tails

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as with bitcoin: stable, stable, stable, kaboom!

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^being relatively illiquid

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in any event, the "green is fine u guise" construction is hollow

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cheap "non-renewables" badly cramp its style

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mats: the basic principle of the linked rng is very similar to mine. (fella stayed awake in school.) but the similarities stop there.

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mats: no attempt is made to isolate pc 5v power from rng;

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mats: i see no evidence of shield, or provisions for one

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mats: debiasing is presumably performed on pc end

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mats: but all of these things considered, it is probably the least terrifyingly bad trng i've seen so far on the post-snowden market

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BingoBoingo

;;ticker --market all

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gribble

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 217.33, vol: 19527.50108951 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.142, vol: 10128.11134 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 215.4, vol: 52043.73376975 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 213.44, vol: 181080.57010000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 216.14762, vol: 14.31813754 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 221.186, vol: 105.51734265 | Volume-weighted last average: 214.070192738

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BingoBoingo

Who is this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10323295#msg10323295

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Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0hd0e )

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good question

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zesty fellow, whoever he is

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I would recommend you sell your bitcoins and buy your alts you were just pumping , because holding onto MPcoin won't be wise. At least with litecoin and peercoin you will lose your investments at a slower pace.

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from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10324436#msg10324436

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Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0hPDi )

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asciilifeform: yeah ultimately the 'infinite noise' guy's circuit is still vulnerable to rf noise in the right band

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pete_dushenski: lol "our scam will suck you dry slowly"

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best scams take years and years and years

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aye, one can't keep a chumpatron going if it kills the chumps

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that's the beauty of car leasing

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you never notice the depreciation whack because "only monthly payment matters"

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and rentiers roll one into the next into the next

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44850 @ 0.00035275 = 15.8208 BTC [-]

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yeah it's hard to 'enjoy' paying nothing for a car if you never do it

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decimation pays nothing for his cars (other than maintenance and gas) and enoys it

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it's not clear to me that people enjoy paying for things with the aim of ownership

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that's not the sharing economy way

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decimation: me too :D

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burn the depreciation witch!

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I'm considering purchasing some real estate

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bezzlar lending rates keep dropping because 'oh noes deflation'

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decimation: forget rf noise even, the harmonics from usb clock.

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yeah I'm pretty sure he's built a half-ass 'sigma-delta' adc

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no, the rng part is a reasonable, traditional scheme

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https://github.com/waywardgeek/infnoise

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waywardgeek/infnoise · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1wPIOu6 )

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^ more detail

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he is definitely running a 'sampling' system

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ultimately any interface between analogue and digital 'worlds' is a sampling system

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indeed. thus, subject to nyquist

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mircea_popescu, I disagree with the premise that wealth correlates strongly with intelligence. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs predicts that people will largely ignore trying to gain Esteem while being pre-occupied with finding food, shelter and companionship. ( http://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html?PageSpeed=noscript )

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Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs | Simply Psychology ... ( http://bit.ly/1wPJwY6 )

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phillipsjk: are you aware that said device is a fiction ?

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as in, herr m. pulled it directly out of his arse

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.000354 = 9.4872 BTC [+]

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and its applicability to actual people is, charitably - debatable

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Of course, that hiearchy is not rigid in real life. Anarcho-socialists may simply skip gaining status, instead prioritizing "8. Transcendence needs - helping others to achieve self actualization."

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so in a word yes, I know the fixed hierarchy is largely fiction.

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or, say, human bomb in iraq. which 'level' of pyramid do his desired 40 virgins satisfy?

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phillipsjk: do you think mental illness is something that is fundamentally biological? or do you think that the mentally ill could 'shake it off' and choose not to?

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BingoBoingo

Cripple fight: http://blog.paybase.com/coin-fire-allegations-about-paybase-are-false/

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Coin Fire Allegations About PayBase Are False ... ( http://bit.ly/1tNL1ew )

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phillipsjk: if you know it to be a fiction, why do you bring it up as an argument

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Sometimes I think mental illness is a rational response to life events.

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is 'unintelligence' also something one can 'shake off' and overcome, just by trying hard enough?

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I accept that some people are smarter than others. That does not automatically imply that the goal of all smart people is to gain wealth and status.

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asciilifeform, it nicely illustrates that there are priorities other than wealth/status.

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phillipsjk: merely that less smart people have the deck stacked against them in their pursuit of anything

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be it wealth or otherwise

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phillipsjk: just because 'some choose not to pursue wealth', it doesn't follow that the wealthy are not intelligent

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phillipsjk: without weighing in on the statement, i'd like to point out that you should have gone straight to 'there are priorities other than wealth/status', rather than trying to bolster the argument with 'proof by authority' using the authority of a fellow who pulled it all out of his arse

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(maslow)

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this may sound odd and pedantic, but keeping your brain clean is like washing your body

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but asciilifeform, tenured professors teach maslow in school!

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if you don't, don't expect to be welcome among folks who do

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good point.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00035275 = 6.9492 BTC [-]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00035467 = 8.2283 BTC [+] {2}

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I also wanted to comment that behavior that seem stupid from the outside is sometimes completely rational. Quoting MP: 'last time we diagnosed [the DDOS bot] it was mostly unpnp pwnt routers that yielded it. long known as a problem, little to do about it because "must have lusers on the internet"' http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#997218 (as an example)

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Logged on 29-01-2015 15:12:13; mircea_popescu: phillipsjk: The captures are 5.0GB each. Just a little too large to fit on a DVD:P << last time we diagnosed this it was mostly unpnp pwnt routers that yielded it.

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The users installing those routers probably don't even play with computer networks as a hobby. It is the manufacturers, not the end-users' fault that UPnP is exposed to the Internet.

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Exposing UPnP to the internet defies all common sense. Add to that, many of the Pwnt routers appear to be in China, I am going to call it a deliberate back-door on the part of the manufacturer.

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There is even evidence this is required by law in China: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/01/30/1514245

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China’s New Rules for Selling Tech to Banks Have US Companies Spooked - SoylentNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1wPNK27 )

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"Technology companies that want to sell equipment to Chinese banks will have to submit to extensive audits, turn over source code, and build “back doors” into their hardware and software, according to a copy of the rules obtained by foreign companies already doing billions of dollar worth of business in the country. The new rules were laid out in a 22-page document from Beijing, and are presumably being put in place so that the Chin

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ese government can peek into computer banking systems."

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Incidentally, leaving the back-door open to the public gives the Chinese Government plausible deniability if they decide to attack this humble channel.

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jurov: please check turdatron.

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jurov: it ate another message of mine.

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jurov: for no discernible reason.

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jurov: so far i've managed perhaps 2 messages in, out of five times this many attempts.

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jurov: if you are using a demented dwarf with abacus instead of a computer, please fire him and replace with an actual machine.

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That reminds me, I noticed the logs have comments from "noisy" people trimmed.

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phillipsjk: who, and where?

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Oh maybe I did not search back far enough, Was referring to this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#997251

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Logged on 29-01-2015 15:40:59; mircea_popescu: !rated felipelalli

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#997252

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Logged on 29-01-2015 15:40:59; assbot: You rated user felipelalli on 21-Jan-2015, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: has a very strange idea of when it's time to talk..

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ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, mod6, danielpbarron: if any of you wanted armv5 binaries to play with, ask jurov, they're in his dust bin, where turdatron dumped them despite valid sigatures.

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yes I found relevant text on the log from the 21st.

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phillipsjk: the amplification attack you found in your packet captures (we discussed it here about a month ago) is a pure ddos vector

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that is, of absolutely no use for taking control of a machine in the usual sense

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even using it as described, for ddos, requires the thing to be hooked up to an isp which happily routes packets with forged ip

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I am not sure it was a true amplification. I suspect it was a flase positive because the addresses ended in .255

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it's an amplification, by definition (attacker sends N bytes, victims receive k*N for some positive k)

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All 3 addresses I mentioned were from /16 netblocks.

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phillipsjk thinks we are talking past each other.

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ben_vulpes

http://dpaste.com/3YZXENS << anyone know of a tidier way to reboot bitcoind?

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dpaste: 3YZXENS ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0fnuA )

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My router reported a "smurf" attack, but I think it is a mis-diagnosis.

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ben_vulpes: 'killall' ?

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punkman

phillipsjk: that's usual background noise

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ben_vulpes

<phillipsjk> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#997252 << actually just shutting someone up temporarily

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