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03:58 gregorynyssa1 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-17#1117609 << The American establishment does not teach tabula rasa. That is a common misconception.
03:58 dulapbot Logged on 2026-01-17 00:01:24 svw: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-16#1117495 | regime policy is that race doesn't exist and all humans are created equal, so yes they can just say the opposite of directly observable reality
04:00 gregorynyssa1 Left Liberals promote the formation of ethnic enclaves.
04:00 gregorynyssa1 They encourage adopted children to research and pay respects to their genetic parents.
04:02 gregorynyssa1 They are opposed to aboriginal children being taken out of their environment and given modern education.
04:03 gregorynyssa1 They have no problem with rhetoric saying that people inherited their parents' personalities (or even intelligence).
04:05 gregorynyssa1 They support the idea that each ethnic/racial minority-group has a common will (in the vein of Rousseau).
04:06 gregorynyssa1 They support ethnic/racial Separatist movements in other countries.
04:07 gregorynyssa1 They blame the British and other colonials for having drawn national boundaries in Africa and the Middle East which were not faithful to ethnic lines.
04:09 gregorynyssa1 They are against race-blind education. They want the education-system to make children self-conscious of their racial features.
04:11 gregorynyssa1 None of these things is compatible with either tabula rasa (an 18th century concept) or Platonic mind/body duality.
04:14 gregorynyssa1 From what I have read, over in France real efforts were made to implement tabula rasa, but that is not the American position.
04:15 gregorynyssa1 The American, Left Liberal position is better understood as being pro-enclave.
04:15 gregorynyssa1 As explained by Curtis Yarvin, they want to build up racial/ethnic enclaves in order to serve as "vote banks" for the Democratic Party.
04:16 gregorynyssa1 Their ideas regarding race/ethnicity are downstream from the mechanics of vote-banking.
04:17 gregorynyssa1 Moreover, as explained by Carroll Quigley, the Democratic Party was always the party of enclaves.
04:18 gregorynyssa1 Their electoral strategy at the local level is to gain the support of enclave-leaders, who will get the entire enclave to vote for them.
04:19 gregorynyssa1 In contrast, the Republican Party has traditionally marketed itself to individual voters.
04:23 gregorynyssa1 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-01-25#1117700 << Was the 0xFA version of Pest ever officially released? It appears still to be at the drafting stage.
04:23 dulapbot Logged on 2026-01-25 13:26:06 asciilifeform: adlai: read it and see
04:25 gregorynyssa1 With regard to both the matter of the multi-ethnic condition of America and the foregoing discussion of
04:26 gregorynyssa1 the malfeasance of elites, what we need is not more Race Realism or Class Realism, but a return to classical morality.
04:26 gregorynyssa1 That is, the discussion of the sinfulness and non-sinfulness of particular actions and categories of actions.
04:27 gregorynyssa1 Sin is a property of particular acts. The present nation needs catechesis more than ever. There needs to be a catechism for people to read and study.
04:27 gregorynyssa1 The Christian community refuses to provide it.
04:31 gregorynyssa1 I am neither "conservative" nor "liberal." Both sides believe in the existence of Psychopaths, Sociopaths, and Narcissists.
04:33 gregorynyssa1 Nowadays nearly all Christians in the nation believe in the existence of Psychopaths, Sociopaths, and Narcissists.
04:33 gregorynyssa1 You will offend them more by denying the existence of Psychopaths, Sociopaths, and Narcissists than by
04:33 gregorynyssa1 denying the existence of God.
04:38 gregorynyssa1 The recent movement among younger Americans to restore Christianity, called Operation Reconquista, is just more of the same.
04:38 gregorynyssa1 If this is the essence of "Christianity," then I am a follower of Sol Invictus.
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10:05 phf http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-02-08#1117846 << elaborate please. i kind of have some idea, but i don't remember this being discussed in logs, nor have i seen it anywhere really
10:05 dulapbot Logged on 2026-02-08 04:31:22 gregorynyssa1: I am neither "conservative" nor "liberal." Both sides believe in the existence of Psychopaths, Sociopaths, and Narcissists.
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10:23 phf http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2026-02-08#1117850 << christianity over its existence went through a variety of phases, that are e.g. reflected in iconography and apocrypha. from secret society (signs on doors to indicate where believers met in secret), to joyous and celebratory (early christianity was very exhuberant), to strict and patriarchal (when it was put in the service of state), to fierce and militant (deus vult!)
10:23 dulapbot Logged on 2026-02-08 04:38:34 gregorynyssa1: The recent movement among younger Americans to restore Christianity, called Operation Reconquista, is just more of the same.
10:26 phf and then gutenberg gave peasants the ability to read the bible, and protestants in the attempt to bring back early christianity created something new entirely, the fire and brimstone literalist movement, stripped of either the depth of the exegesis or the whimsy of the apocrypha, reinterpreted by dullards and prudes, tradition that mostly continued to this day
10:34 phf i mean protestants almost completely stripped christianity of transcendental and rapturous, outside of handful codified vaudeville acts, like speaking in tongues. where's traditionally exegesis provided path to transcendental for the thinking men, while christian art and architecture served same purpose for everyone. apocrypha gave you a shared mythology, a kind of marvel universe in which you actively lived and participated
10:41 phf lacking all that, you don't really have much choice. everybody wants to retvrn but it ends up being just a return to the church of your parents, that many left for very good reasons. it's shallow, hypocritical, deservedly lampooned (king of the hill), or else it's an attempt to adopt somebody else's tradition on the most shallow grounds. like you know going eastern orthodox without ever reading gogol's "Evenings on a Farm Near Dikanka"
10:41 phf as a child, basically just protestantism with cool beards and robes
10:50 phf that is to say that christianity as it is practiced is fake and gay. it could easily compete with sovl invictus in terms of weird, transcendental, virile, whateve; you have gnosticism, hesychasm, knights templar, crusades, beowulf, arthurian myths, tolkien, eastern european literature and folklore, etc. etc. but all actual return is just a return to the fake and gay.
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