#asciilifeform | 2022-07-15

05:48

crtdaydreams

does trb only come in a full client flavour? I'd stand up a noad but don't have 200GB of bandwidth to burn

05:48

crtdaydreams

just looking at thin clients

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08:51

PeterL

crtdaydreams: what would a thin client trb even look like? without the full history to check, it wouldn't be trb?

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10:02

asciilifeform

crtdaydreams: clients which dun actually store the chain are called pseudonodes and simply pollute the landscape. they add nuffin useful to the network (quite the opposite.)

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13:33

gregorynyssa

PeterL: if you wish to add a verb, you might say "care for mind over matter" or "seek mind over matter"

13:37

gregorynyssa

"curate menti super materiam" or "quaerite mentem super materiam"

13:42

gregorynyssa

sorry, the first sentence should be "curate mentem super materiam." (the verb "curare" uses accusative case)

13:42

gregorynyssa

but if you were to say "serve the mind over matter" then it would be "menti"

13:46

PeterL

nah, what I meant was use the word mind as a verb, so "mind over matter" means "to take care of some material"

13:51

gregorynyssa

PeterL: that would be "curate materiam"

14:02

gregorynyssa

speaking of which, this might interest "asciilifeform" or "verisimilitude:" https://i.imgur.com/NcGcAx2.jpg

14:03

gregorynyssa

a Latin poem by Joseph Scaliger which, to my knowledge, has no English translation. I found a Russian translation though.

14:03

asciilifeform

wb gregorynyssa

14:04

gregorynyssa

asciilifeform: thanks. I wrote a large subset of Pest in Java several months ago, but have been trying to fix "classpath" issues.

14:05

asciilifeform

gregorynyssa: possibly signpost might help, iirc he did hard time in java mines not so many yrs ago

14:06

gregorynyssa

have you implemented Serpent on your own yet?

14:06

asciilifeform

gregorynyssa: i've a cl serpent, from while back, but not cycles to do anyffin useful w/it presently

14:07

asciilifeform

(and about half of a verilog one)

14:07

gregorynyssa

nice.

14:07

asciilifeform

if yer thing can link w/ gcc .o, can use the classic ada serpent, it is entirely straightforward and const-time

14:08

gregorynyssa

so the ADA version of Serpent is included in GNAT?

14:08

gregorynyssa

* Ada

14:08

asciilifeform

nope

14:09

asciilifeform

it can be seen e.g. here ( + here ) fwiw

14:09

gregorynyssa

so it is a third-party package?

14:09

asciilifeform

pasteolade rather than package

14:09

gregorynyssa

14:09

gregorynyssa

I see.

14:11

asciilifeform

( if yer curious 'how the fuq does it work' see e.g. & prev. articles )

14:11

asciilifeform

^ for sumreason orig. authors couldn't be arsed to give the injectivity pr00f

14:12

gregorynyssa

TBH that Latin/Russian poem (which I encountered two or three years ago) reminds me of your projects.

14:12

gregorynyssa

"omnes poenarum facies hic labor unus habet"

14:13

gregorynyssa

The process of doing anything right in software from the ground up.

14:13

asciilifeform

moar or less

14:13

asciilifeform

gregorynyssa: if you read n.stephenson's 'anathem' -- the penal 'book' from same

14:13

dulapbot

Logged on 2022-06-11 14:23:04 phf: i'm always reminded of anathem when thinking about things like that

14:15

gregorynyssa

I haven't yet read anything by Stephenson, but probably ought to.

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14:16

gregorynyssa

yesterday I read part of the first Foundation novel, having watched the 2021 Apple adaptation.

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14:35

asciilifeform

gregorynyssa: have a phree cheap&angry translation of yer thing : 'if there be one who earned a dismal fate / and must a frightful punishment await / condemn him not to fiery smithy's hearth / nor to the miner's toils beneath the earth / to scholar's book let him instead be bound / for every kind of pain is therein found. '

14:36

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asciilifeform apologies for 'на коленке' quality

14:36

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asciilifeform must bbl

14:38

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gregorynyssa gives applause

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16:16

asciilifeform