#asciilifeform | 2022-07-09

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trying to get python working on freebsd boxen; turning up https://bsd.to/tE4s, ld-elf.so.1 is in /libexec where it's supposed to be, mebbe a permission issue? using this as an example because it's replicatable easily, but somethings wrong with ld-elf.so.1 as it happens when trying to run e.g. weechat

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crtdaydreams

if anyone

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crtdaydreams

if anyone has encountered something like this before and knows what the go is, would really appreciate a heads up

~ 25 minutes ~

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00:49	crtdaydreams	trying to get python working on freebsd boxen; turning up https://bsd.to/tE4s, ld-elf.so.1 is in /libexec where it's supposed to be, mebbe a permission issue? using this as an example because it's replicatable easily, but somethings wrong with ld-elf.so.1 as it happens when trying to run e.g. weechat
00:49	crtdaydreams	if anyone
00:50	crtdaydreams	if anyone has encountered something like this before and knows what the go is, would really appreciate a heads up
		~ 25 minutes ~
01:16	asciilifeform	phf: was unicode, UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 75: ordinal not in range(128)
		~ 11 hours 31 minutes ~
12:48	shinohai	Yeah it hasn't crashed either of my stations, and could read phf's Greek AND Russian output fine.
12:48	shinohai	annnnd i meant to post that to #pest
12:48	asciilifeform	shinohai: none of these, interestingly, killed dulapbot's station so far
12:49	phf	*old church slavonic
12:50	*	shinohai apologizes for the generalization, should properly have said Cyrillic characters I suppose ....
12:50	asciilifeform	phf: prolly recognizable even to tourists, by the gnarly orcograms
12:51	asciilifeform	shinohai: it's the 'original' cyrillic(tm)(r)(c)(st cyril & methodius)
13:01	phf	one of those cases where unicode took its political shortcuts, аꙁъ is supposed to be represented by cyrillic small letter a, that is unless you're japanese
13:02	asciilifeform	аꙁъ nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul (tm)(r)(jrrtolkien)
13:03	phf	kek
13:03	*	asciilifeform couldn't resist
13:04	phf	why is tengwar not in unicode!
13:05	asciilifeform	it isn't?!
13:05	phf	shinohai: https://www.unicode.org/notes/tn41/tn41-1.pdf "Church Slavonic Typography in Unicode", you know, if you wanted to know finer points of things
13:06	shinohai	^ neato, will read
13:06	*	asciilifeform pictures starovers w/ own seekrit encoding, riotously incompatible w/ heathenography
13:06	phf	asciilifeform: http://std.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC2/WG2/docs/n1641/n1641.htm 1997 proposal
13:06	phf	for tengwar, but never moved
13:06	*	shinohai throws on his best Adidas tracksuit and uncorks bottle of vodka ....
13:07	phf	i had a moment on acid couple of weeks ago, "ancient culture, war and peace, reduced to a simpson joke!"
13:10	asciilifeform	phf: riotous, that tengwar aint in but over9000 cannibal langs from locales where ~0 net connection, are
13:10	asciilifeform	'and this here is shitlang, we write only glyphs outta own shit stuck to cardboard, plox to include in unicode'(tm)(r)(mp)
13:11	phf	when asked if he was proud that his village's writing system was included in unicode standard, vatumba village elder was noted to response "we have a writing system?"
13:11	asciilifeform	'chukcha is a writer, not a reader'(tm)
13:12	phf	i suppose starovers would use KOI8-O
13:13	asciilifeform	subj for the innocent
13:14	*	phf gtg
13:14	*	asciilifeform pictures, 'last night geologists uncovered an uncontacted starover village, of modern tech they preserved only an old brass kettle and a dvk...'
13:15	*	asciilifeform also bbl
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16:13	signpost	almost done farting around with this thing. sorry for spam.
		~ 1 hours 27 minutes ~
17:41	asciilifeform	wb signpost
17:41	signpost	good afternoon