#asciilifeform | 2022-05-23

http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2022-05-19#1005615 what would said item feature alf? (et al)

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bitbot

(pest) 2022-05-19 asciilifeform: searched for yrs for usb-controllable battery -> 5v supply to make rk 'portable', not found off-shelf

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im imagining one bms ic to rule them all

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vex: standard 'battery charger and % gauge' w/ usb interface and +5v out

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oh

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want cell blancing and hotswapability?

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i'm likely having a different brainstorm. i'd like my portable devices to have the perfect array of 18650s, with some sexy injection moulding

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railgun stylee. also good for yer laptop, or even mp's pet's buttplug? how long has she been sitting on the coil?

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^ https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/18650-pack-featured.jpg?w=800

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i learned about 18650 for a mmb headlamp, and now i'm seeing them everywhere

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see, now when one of those cells dies, you've gotta search and undo they whole array

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and what if you happen across a car battery and wanna pinch some juice?

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i reckon one oughtta be able to pull a cell out of the lappy to keep the headlamp lit phf

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RAIB

01:49

rudendant array of idependent buttplugs

01:50

i'm thinking spacedocking, i'm thinking monthly subscriptions...

01:58

and when the factory is idle; we'll make poisoned clone ledgers, and leave them for porch pirates to distribute

02:07

so terra got audited, one way or another... I notice noonce claimed it

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pretty much a standard bank run if I'm not mistaken.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqxnm6t3QMw

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vex continues trolling himself ad infinum

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I sure would be like to marching up a mountain in us springtime

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aussies can't get enough squirrels. so good

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-22#1103112 << i quite enjoy it. every time we go hiking with friends i realize just how out of shape most people are.

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Logged on 2022-05-22 22:26:05 vex: I sure would be like to marching up a mountain in us springtime

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I'm kinda leightweight and I smoke a lot. uphill is easy

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downhill easy too; I love a drink

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just show an aussie a hamster tho.. he/she will stop for a month

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much less bitey than your average quoll

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"Of couse you can't have fucking hamster. It might upset the quolls"

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"Nope"

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but

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"no"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVnLJQIJw2Y

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if bingoboingo want's to come back, I've got an international for ya. quolls to japan

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the only downside mate, and I've gotta be honest.. you've gotta put them down your knickers.. and if they wake up, they're kinda scratchy

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i don't get jepordy, but "this spotted marsupial cat will fuck up most other mammals"

02:49

What is a quoll?

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that looks adorable, and also like it'll fuck your shit up when cornered

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we're not allowed to keep them, they need to hunt

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of course if auntie karen is legit she might let you watch something for a while

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our hypothesis is that quolss will eat squirrels

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I had to hand my squirrel license in. no more squirrels

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phf they eat meat

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anything from a cockroach to a housecat

~ 33 minutes ~

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YV5ZTO5c_4

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saving up for a suzuki

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YV5ZTO5c_4

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one trick homie

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWCa3GvbNUE&list=RDfWCa3GvbNUE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zT4Y-QNdto

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyflyJjJrf4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1fImXAeS-s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlkEQXUdb0E

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ill even kiss a sunset pig. oh california

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5BnE5_lPqE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3KOowB4k_k jimmy packey just gave the casino away

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aussie corruption dectecor has problems

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seroiusly?

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what are we gonna tell our friend when they say oh la ha?

04:55

war is coming. stones no longer safe on earth

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big bada boom in the cab

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uErKI0zWgjg

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honk

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for ben kay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVOIg_lHRzk

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ubud looking good lately

~ 10 hours 42 minutes ~

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meanwhile, in misc. finds: 'zig cc' , c/cpp compiler, '45MB tarball', claims musl support.

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asciilifeform not tried, but interesting on surface imho

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" The size difference here comes because the Clang tarball ships with more utilities than a C compiler, as well as pre-compiled static libraries for both LLVM and Clang. " "If zig cc is built on top of Clang, why doesn't Clang just do this? What exactly is Zig doing on top of Clang to make this work?"

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phf: some kinda crackpot language included in there as well, seems

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asciilifeform tried to unravel whether linked item genuinely 'compact', or 'cheats' by rolling in precompiled ???. ran outta cycles

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well, it seems like it's a llvm/clang + crackpot language. i've heard about crackpot language, and his "drop in cc replacement" hackery, but didn't realize that "small" is because "stripped down llvm"

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shinohai

I was just about to ask if anyone here had ever heard of/used this "zig" lang.

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asciilifeform not prev. encountered. on surface loox like umpteenth 'better c' attempt

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afaiu guy spams link aggregators with his project, and otherwise doesn't say or do anything controversial, so unlike e.g. asciilifeform or verisimilitude posts his are better tolerated, stay as a kind of background noise

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phf: lulzy. asciilifeform lost count by nao of 'better c' aficionados, they've been doing their thing since '80s...

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asciilifeform consults for an outfit where 1 of the older ones among these is in use.

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asciilifeform no longer spams, or even reads, aggregators, for many yrs nao...

~ 16 minutes ~

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d is a legitimate language though, back when anything that's not python c++ or java was considered to be estoric, i knew a handful of d devs that were hanging out in lisp circles, and would argue convincingly that d is a kind of common lisp

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in asciilifeform's pov, nearly 2y into subj, is more of attempt to be 'a kind of ada'. (it aint a dynamic lang, but rather traditional batch compiler) but very mixed bag imho.

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i could probably walk away, but have to admit that i got languages confused :> i was thinking of dylan

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lol

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right, i don't know anything about D except the name

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'd' is a late-'90s item, 1 of the various efforts to 'what if cpp without rampant pointerism, add a gc, high-level data structures, etc'

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'd' society has a www w/ various runnable examples, for the curious.

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like limbo/alef

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rather like

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compiles to x86/64/arm

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(i.e. no bytecodism)

~ 48 minutes ~

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-23#1103157 I've seen this before, and disregarded it as nonsense of some flavour, asciilifeform.

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Logged on 2022-05-23 11:49:34 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. finds: 'zig cc' , c/cpp compiler, '45MB tarball', claims musl support.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-23#1103163 It's completely uninteresting, shinohai, and the only thing that happens in this niche is a new language being added to the pile. It's like the Erik Naggum quote on language proliferation.

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Logged on 2022-05-23 12:03:43 shinohai: I was just about to ask if anyone here had ever heard of/used this "zig" lang.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-23#1103165 Yes, this is basically correct, but recall it's easier to avoid being controversial when one also does nothing controversial.

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Logged on 2022-05-23 12:09:17 phf: afaiu guy spams link aggregators with his project, and otherwise doesn't say or do anything controversial, so unlike e.g. asciilifeform or verisimilitude posts his are better tolerated, stay as a kind of background noise

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He's not challenging the status quo, or doing anything new. He's attempting to bolster it, in ways anyone would understand perfectly well with naught more than a glance.

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I know one thing of which ziggers like to boast is the ``power'' of compile-time code execution. I don't think most ziggers even know of Lisp.

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verisimilitude: 'language proliferation' happens for the reasons described by naggum; and , as also described, one tends to hear specifically about the moar dysfunctional examples

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(agriculturalsupremacy) 2020-02-27 asciilifeform: black holes that can absorb ~infinite effort and still suck -- sell. 'job-creating technology'(tm)(r).

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( see e.g. )

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Yes.

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Some act as if language ``community'' be more important than language itself.

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``Now, industrious retards can be a horrible thing.'' Oh, don't we know.

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shinohai

We should rewrite Lisp in Rust, that might help.

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This reminds me of something.

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verisimilitude: is where 'employment languages' come from.

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It's this.

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``In Lisp, the **assignment operator** is a macro, implemented by a source filter. Every time you perform an assignment, you are invoking a macro that analyzes the source code at compile time and rewrites it to something else. If source filters were even 0.01% unreliable in Lisp, one assignment in 10,000 would compile wrong, and none of your programs would ever work properly.

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