#asciilifeform | 2022-04-10

Logged on 2022-01-25 19:33:42 asciilifeform: is funny, how erry time they need to agitate for yr+, bus in over9000 morons of both hat colours into some shithole, and spend 1e8$ on provocateurs, to get 1-2 corpses

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( most recently, in 'jan6 uprising'. where, despite heroic fbi provocateur to organic participant ratio, the only bullet was fired by 'mall cop' into some rando chix)

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-09#1094770 << over 1e6 warm bodies at the '03 'iraq protests'. 0 effect, the notion that '# of bodies' matters worth half a shit is a lul

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Logged on 2022-04-09 18:50:17 mangol: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-09#1094737 << the outcome of riots is mostly symbolic, unless you have a truly massive amount of people

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make 0 diff if you have 1, 1e3, 1e6, or 1e9 , when they're holding pickets, rather than e.g. burning harvard and nyt nailed shut with the muppets inside

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i dunno, going without firearms nearly worked on jan6

02:04

mats: describe the hypothetical 'worked'

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executions of pence and pelosi recorded on facebook live

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what'd it mean to 'worked' ? d00d w/ the horned helmet sits down in the presidential chair, becomes president magically, army shows up to hail him as emperor ?

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mats: what diff it'd make if they had strangled these talking heads ? is there a shortage of new ones ?

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working would concretely mean trump preventing transition of power to biden and doing a second term

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mats: how would the pictured scene have resulted in 2nd trump term ?

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( ignoring for a moment the q of 'what diff would 2nd, 3rd, ... trump rerun make' )

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congress confirms him as potus

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mats: maybe missing something in the logic, but why would it have ?

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its a coup, there's no necessary logic

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mats: e.g. here's a photo of an actual coup.

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moscow, '93

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in bg of pic -- the parliament.

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after eating coupla tank shells.

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( they tried to remove eltsin )

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perhaps the crucial states that voted in favor of biden would have appointments of presidential electors owing to allegations of voter fraud

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compare w/ unarmed redditards , walking past mysteriously disinterested guards and breaking a few office furnitures.

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mats: observe how whole meme went to /dev/null

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and perhaps eventually congress and scotus get along with the program as some more holdouts get public executions

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(or to wherever '9/11 troof' et al live naodays)

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nobody who matters has seen consequences for that day

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there's time yet for a sequel

02:17

can draw over9000 hypothetical portraits of 'coup in washingtonistan', but none of'em have much connection to the redditards-herded-by-fbi party held in the 'uprising'

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arguably the less violence there is, the more legitimacy is conferred on denial of transfer of power

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the voice of the common people, peacefully protesting in the seat of government

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but, importantly, even if martian spetsnaz parachuted in and killed literally all of the ceremonial officials, would make ~0 diff, their plug-in replacements would take office overnight & reich not skip a beat

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reich not actually run by the public heads.

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any moar than e.g. england, by queen

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i dont buy that government operation is an elaborate game of telephone with lizards in a switchboard room

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its a thought experiment, i know, ive read luttwak and understand the deep bench of the lib state makes proper coup mostly impossible

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mats: at this pt the logs span 2 sets of nominally opposite sets of washingtoni muppets. notice any serious change, visible to naked eye, in how reich operates , over this time ?

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but the world is built by men doing, not the men behind them doing the doing

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much of the 'doing' is structurally programmed.

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i never saw biden as an accelerationist until last month

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simply to take 1 screamingly obv. example, the setup where ~0.1% of reich owns ~all property and rents/mortgages it to the rest, at no pt was or will be up for vote in any elections

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trying to shut out the worlds largest commodities exporter from global trade is a structural change in the way the game is played

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the world is on the move

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mats: they've been trying since hrusch even started exporting

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we can now see the beginning of the end of globalization

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brb

02:34

So, programming.

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lol

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asciilifeform recalls (anyone have link?) a turkish lolclip, where after president gave speech, someone left camera running, and several cats climbed on the podium. iirc 1 even meowed into microphone. 'cat coup!'

~ 15 minutes ~

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asciilifeform loox fwd to the 'suppose the cats had succeeded! it almost worked!11' thread.

~ 36 minutes ~

03:30

i managed to not be at jan 6th because promissed girl a trip to banya..

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went to the one in nj, right outside of princeton, which is like hasidim central. out hotel had a party of the family of -stein, 200 maskless hasidim looking at all the masked patrons like they were lepers.

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banya was of course all deplorable (this was peak of covid mania) discussing current political situation

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so we're in a room, steaming, and discussing all things, twitter and trump and such. and there's a hasid sitting on the very top, face covered, just payos sticking out from the towel. in the silence of a pause of a heated conversation we suddenly hear the hasid saying with a very thick jewish accent: "i know how this goes. fest they come for the trhamp, and then they will come for the jews"

~ 25 minutes ~

04:03

I think I've basically recovered from my hand issues, perhaps.

04:03

I never needed a cure anyway, just a placebo that worked.

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It's not the end of the world if I occasionally take a day off from typing to rest.

~ 1 hours 44 minutes ~

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http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094821 << that's 1e6 protesters, not 1e6 rioters. any number of protesters indeed amount to zero

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Logged on 2022-04-10 02:01:08 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-09#1094770 << over 1e6 warm bodies at the '03 'iraq protests'. 0 effect, the notion that '# of bodies' matters worth half a shit is a lul

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Logged on 2022-04-09 18:50:17 mangol: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-09#1094737 << the outcome of riots is mostly symbolic, unless you have a truly massive amount of people

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http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094824 << it would have taken a coup with military backing (which was plausible, trump was very popular with rank-and-file soldiers and a non-trivial part of the brass)

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bitbot

Logged on 2022-04-10 02:04:26 mats: i dunno, going without firearms nearly worked on jan6

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the fact that undercover operatives + randoms loitered into the building, and there's now a big show trial, is the best possible outcome for reich

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coup energy was redirected into fake uprising whose outcome demoralizes potential dissidents, trying again is all but impossible

05:56

CNN still feeds the show trial to normies every day

05:59

recently, canadian trucker convoy also had the support of large % of their armed forces and police. but similar result - everyone chickened out in the end

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phf: indeed, yet to see one elite party where the attendees wear masks

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http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094856 << the problem is that the men behind the curtain are coordinated; the visible men find it hard to coordinate against the will of the ones behind. one or two of the visible men choose to defect -> they mysteriously commit suicide

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bitbot

Logged on 2022-04-10 02:25:10 mats: but the world is built by men doing, not the men behind them doing the doing

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currently e.g. musk is on perilous ground. just bought almost controlling stake in twitter (i.e. crowdsourced NYT). a few wrong moves and he'll be a bigger risk to the narrative than his rocket company is an asset.

~ 16 minutes ~

06:26

meanwhile, disney CEO is forced at gunpoint ^W camera point to pledge allegiance to woke

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for whatever reason, race woke is currently taking a backseat to sex woke

~ 36 minutes ~

07:03

I feel so sorry for the millionaire.

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Negroes, homosexuals, and feminist women are old news, mangol; now trannies are the thing to force upon others.

~ 9 hours 33 minutes ~

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094889 << a++. 'Вместо статуй будут урны "Революции культурной".'(tm)(r)(vysotsky). ('in place of statues, there'll be urns, of the cultural revolution')

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Logged on 2022-04-10 02:25:32 mangol: meanwhile, disney CEO is forced at gunpoint ^W camera point to pledge allegiance to woke

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( babelfish for engl. folx, for ref)

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094883 << reichstag fire

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Logged on 2022-04-10 01:55:29 mangol: CNN still feeds the show trial to normies every day

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094884 << nah

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Logged on 2022-04-10 01:58:04 mangol: recently, canadian trucker convoy also had the support of large % of their armed forces and police. but similar result - everyone chickened out in the end

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Logged on 2021-08-02 18:58:43 asciilifeform: mats: officers want same thing eltsin's officers wanted -- for the pension cheque to come on time and not bounce.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094876 << there's no such thing as '1e6 rioters'. ('We use the term "thieves" if the number of men does not exceed seven, and "brigands" for a number between seven and thirty-five. Anything beyond this is an "army."') needs supply of food, etc. and organization (i.e. in '14 kiev, reich spent over $mil/day to keep '1e6 rioters' fed, watered, etc)

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Logged on 2022-04-10 01:48:21 mangol: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-10#1094821 << that's 1e6 protesters, not 1e6 rioters. any number of protesters indeed amount to zero

~ 48 minutes ~

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sure. the limit of rioting is anarchy which is not a stable state

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re: convoy, 'approve' a more precise term than 'support'. but as with protesting, approval is cheap.

~ 4 hours 59 minutes ~

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