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14:19 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:19 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $58369.14
14:19 asciilifeform !w poll
14:19 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
14:19 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.061s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.103s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:19 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.179s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962 (Operator: whaack)
14:19 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.184s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
14:19 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:19 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.388s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711957
14:19 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.696s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711612
14:19 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.523s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
14:20 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.376s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962
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17:25 asciilifeform thinking further re this -- imho the Right Thing would be for all reachable peers to maintain synced local copies of such 'www'. (and optionally station operator can route the port on which the station emulates http server to world)
17:25 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-28 19:37:11 asciilifeform: signpost: somewhat apropos, thought of your lubytron in context of possible pheature: pestron takes a local dir and 'hosts'. peers (and optionally broader pestnet members, e.g. l2/l3) can visit e.g. http://localhost:8000/signpost and see his 'www'.
17:37 asciilifeform ( and see also )
17:37 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-29 21:07:32 asciilifeform: jonsykkel: see linked thrd for basic outline of algo. idea is, if you have a www ('vvv' ??) of signed material, will then have as many mirrors as you have readers. and they'll all have up-to-date, authentic content of yours, trivially verifiably. nomoar ddos, expensive hostings, warez takedowns, etc
17:38 asciilifeform imho ideal way to do this would be as dedicated station (if the world-tcp end is ddoses, 0 impact on operator's primary station)
17:38 asciilifeform *ddosed
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20:44 signpost asciilifeform: this is how I'm thinking about it, that "www" is a dead, inert thing I've synced to my local disk from peers, with basically unspecified hospitality provided to the traditional net if desired.
20:44 signpost matters like blog comments are interesting and should be rethought in this context. ideally "hyperlinks" become references to a hash on DHT
20:45 signpost semi-relatedly, I am writing CL for the first time in years, and it's a joy.
20:45 * signpost already encountering broken-headed things in his pylubytron that fall out naturally writing in CL
20:45 signpost will share before long, just taking my time. the pyshit isn't worth seeing the light of day, was just a way to wrap my head around the paper.
20:46 signpost (wouldn't make sense to say "hay folx, enjoy this impl of a massively parallelizable algo in shitlang that can't properly parallelize)
20:57 billymg signpost: what's the best way for someone to write a quick 'hello world' in CL on a gentoo box? i see a list of implementations here and i'm not sure where to start
21:03 signpost billymg: no complaints from me re: either sbcl or clozurecl
21:04 signpost clisp is a good bootstrapping lisp. I know sbcl needs one, can't recall if clozurecl also
21:04 signpost all should be in portage somewhere
21:05 signpost clisp is written in c, so it doesn't need a pre-existing lisp to compile, just gcc
21:05 signpost sbcl is written in common lisp. clozurecl is some hybrid of both.
21:06 signpost re: dev env, highly recommend taking the time to set up an ergonomic emacs + slime setup
21:07 signpost gotta have the repl running to get the "working clay with hands" sense of writing cl
21:08 asciilifeform signpost: very nifty, looking fwd to reading
21:08 asciilifeform billymg: i've used sbcl for many many yrs
21:09 asciilifeform billymg: it 'emerge's on dulaps/rk's w/out problem
21:09 billymg signpost: ah, that's all very helpful, thanks. got more in 6 lines here than would've from 6 hours of googling probably
21:10 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-30#1068272 << aha, this is how asciilifeform pictures it
21:10 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-30 15:36:51 signpost: asciilifeform: this is how I'm thinking about it, that "www" is a dead, inert thing I've synced to my local disk from peers, with basically unspecified hospitality provided to the traditional net if desired.
21:10 billymg asciilifeform: ty, good to know
21:10 asciilifeform i.e. 100% static mirrors, when originator updates a file, gets pushed out to wot on best-effort basis and their copies update, etc
21:11 asciilifeform and anyone who wants to expose his copy to wild net, only needs to route port
21:17 signpost defo, or sync to another turdbox to avoid http clients choking the pipe
21:26 shinohai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-30#1068288 <<< does :SB-THREAD work on rk since arm machine?
21:26 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-30 16:01:42 asciilifeform: billymg: it 'emerge's on dulaps/rk's w/out problem
21:30 asciilifeform shinohai: not checked, good q
21:32 asciilifeform signpost: aha, as noted upstack
21:32 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-30 12:31:31 asciilifeform: imho ideal way to do this would be as dedicated station (if the world-tcp end is ddoses, 0 impact on operator's primary station)
21:33 signpost ah yup
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23:50 vex http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068239 casa got space for a ridgy didge cleanroom?
23:50 dulapbot Logged on 2021-11-29 14:45:17 asciilifeform: sadly not had time to push this effort along recently. was talking to a microscopist at local uni and right then covidiocy hit
23:50 asciilifeform vex: lolno
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