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asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
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busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $58369.14 |
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asciilifeform |
!w poll |
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watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
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watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.061s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962 |
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71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.103s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
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205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.179s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962 (Operator: whaack) |
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143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.184s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=711962 |
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54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
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82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.388s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711957 |
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94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.696s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711612 |
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103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.523s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.376s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=711962 |
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17:25 |
asciilifeform |
thinking further re this -- imho the Right Thing would be for all reachable peers to maintain synced local copies of such 'www'. (and optionally station operator can route the port on which the station emulates http server to world) |
17:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-28 19:37:11 asciilifeform: signpost: somewhat apropos, thought of your lubytron in context of possible pheature: pestron takes a local dir and 'hosts'. peers (and optionally broader pestnet members, e.g. l2/l3) can visit e.g. http://localhost:8000/signpost and see his 'www'. |
17:37 |
asciilifeform |
( and see also ) |
17:37 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-29 21:07:32 asciilifeform: jonsykkel: see linked thrd for basic outline of algo. idea is, if you have a www ('vvv' ??) of signed material, will then have as many mirrors as you have readers. and they'll all have up-to-date, authentic content of yours, trivially verifiably. nomoar ddos, expensive hostings, warez takedowns, etc |
17:38 |
asciilifeform |
imho ideal way to do this would be as dedicated station (if the world-tcp end is ddoses, 0 impact on operator's primary station) |
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17:38 |
asciilifeform |
*ddosed |
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20:44 |
signpost |
asciilifeform: this is how I'm thinking about it, that "www" is a dead, inert thing I've synced to my local disk from peers, with basically unspecified hospitality provided to the traditional net if desired. |
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20:44 |
signpost |
matters like blog comments are interesting and should be rethought in this context. ideally "hyperlinks" become references to a hash on DHT |
20:45 |
signpost |
semi-relatedly, I am writing CL for the first time in years, and it's a joy. |
20:45 |
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signpost already encountering broken-headed things in his pylubytron that fall out naturally writing in CL |
20:45 |
signpost |
will share before long, just taking my time. the pyshit isn't worth seeing the light of day, was just a way to wrap my head around the paper. |
20:46 |
signpost |
(wouldn't make sense to say "hay folx, enjoy this impl of a massively parallelizable algo in shitlang that can't properly parallelize) |
20:57 |
billymg |
signpost: what's the best way for someone to write a quick 'hello world' in CL on a gentoo box? i see a list of implementations here and i'm not sure where to start |
21:03 |
signpost |
billymg: no complaints from me re: either sbcl or clozurecl |
21:04 |
signpost |
clisp is a good bootstrapping lisp. I know sbcl needs one, can't recall if clozurecl also |
21:04 |
signpost |
all should be in portage somewhere |
21:05 |
signpost |
clisp is written in c, so it doesn't need a pre-existing lisp to compile, just gcc |
21:05 |
signpost |
sbcl is written in common lisp. clozurecl is some hybrid of both. |
21:06 |
signpost |
re: dev env, highly recommend taking the time to set up an ergonomic emacs + slime setup |
21:07 |
signpost |
gotta have the repl running to get the "working clay with hands" sense of writing cl |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: very nifty, looking fwd to reading |
21:08 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: i've used sbcl for many many yrs |
21:09 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: it 'emerge's on dulaps/rk's w/out problem |
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21:09 |
billymg |
signpost: ah, that's all very helpful, thanks. got more in 6 lines here than would've from 6 hours of googling probably |
21:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-30#1068272 << aha, this is how asciilifeform pictures it |
21:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-30 15:36:51 signpost: asciilifeform: this is how I'm thinking about it, that "www" is a dead, inert thing I've synced to my local disk from peers, with basically unspecified hospitality provided to the traditional net if desired. |
21:10 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: ty, good to know |
21:10 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. 100% static mirrors, when originator updates a file, gets pushed out to wot on best-effort basis and their copies update, etc |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
and anyone who wants to expose his copy to wild net, only needs to route port |
21:17 |
signpost |
defo, or sync to another turdbox to avoid http clients choking the pipe |
21:26 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-30#1068288 <<< does :SB-THREAD work on rk since arm machine? |
21:26 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-30 16:01:42 asciilifeform: billymg: it 'emerge's on dulaps/rk's w/out problem |
21:30 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: not checked, good q |
21:32 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: aha, as noted upstack |
21:32 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-30 12:31:31 asciilifeform: imho ideal way to do this would be as dedicated station (if the world-tcp end is ddoses, 0 impact on operator's primary station) |
21:33 |
signpost |
ah yup |
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23:50 |
vex |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-29#1068239 casa got space for a ridgy didge cleanroom? |
23:50 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-29 14:45:17 asciilifeform: sadly not had time to push this effort along recently. was talking to a microscopist at local uni and right then covidiocy hit |
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asciilifeform |
vex: lolno |