#asciilifeform | 2021-05-21

Logged on 2021-05-18 19:51:00 asciilifeform: the ones where 'à', 'á', 'â', 'ã', buncha similar garbage are considered separate glyphs, and their significance cannot be inferred from the constituent bits ?

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02:54

billymg: thx for adding #a. i rolled in your log as well, and added the chan.

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02:55

verisimilitude: aha, those also. (btw any idea whether there's a full catalogue of these somewhere..?)

02:55

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asciilifeform sadly must return to chores; bbl

02:56

I've no idea, no.

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03:32

I've finally started trying to build an Elision dictionary, and hit the issue that dictionaries list ``stop'', but I also need ``stops'', ``stopped'', and ``stopping''.

03:33

Being lazy, I'm trying to find someone who has already done this, but loathe Wiktionary.

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06:23

Well, now how so amusing.

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13:49

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-20#1037129 << ty! gonna see if i can publish the patch today

13:49

Logged on 2021-05-20 22:52:02 asciilifeform: billymg: thx for adding #a. i rolled in your log as well, and added the chan.

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15:34

asciilifeform: in the logotron readme where you talk about a proxying www server, and running reader.py separately then pointing the www server to its port, are these instructions assuming that the box running the bot and reader is different from the box running apache?

15:36

it was a part of the setup that confused me initially. i have all the components running on the same box so in my setup i didn't have to fuss with any of that, i just added the mod_wsgi vhost config (pointing to my reader.py) to apache and it handled the rest

15:38

billymg: my original version did not have wsgi. it required apache to be config'd as a reverseproxy.

15:38

ahh, ok

15:38

want me to update the readme then?

15:38

billymg: would be great.

15:38

kk, will do

15:38

ty

15:43

asciilifeform: another question: the readme lists some yet to be implemented features: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=ziN8

15:43

perhaps the list is stale, my copy came with a ZNC converter and pagination of search results seems to be there as well

15:46

billymg: see the update sections.

15:46

billymg: i amended the readme piecewise, w/out touching the earlier text.

15:47

(for the most part, iirc fixed a typo at least 1nce)

15:50

asciilifeform: gotcha, do you mind if i separate the version history from the readme? so that the readme always reflects the current state

15:52

billymg: why not

15:58

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-21#1037135 << these aint actually rare or imho newsworthy -- in shitcoin 'industry' this kinda thing is an almost weekly event

15:58

Logged on 2021-05-21 02:20:46 verisimilitude: Well, now how so amusing.

15:58

$ticker btc usd

15:58

btcinfobot

Current BTC price in USD: $36812.38

15:58

!w poll

15:58

Polling 17 nodes...

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84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect!

15:58

185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!

15:58

108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.098s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429 (Operator: asciilifeform)

15:58

205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=684429

15:58

205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=684429

15:58

205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.144s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429

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54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429

15:58

205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.085s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=684429 (Operator: whaack)

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192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.206s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429

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143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.222s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429

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208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.162s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429

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54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.205s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=684429

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176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.280s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412049 (Operator: jurov)

15:59

24.28.108.235:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: trinque)

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17:06

That's really pathetic.

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18:13

verisimilitude: read some time about e.g. the mtgox debacle.

18:14

verisimilitude: many (if not most) of the 'bitcoin business titans' were barely qualified to tie own shoelaces..

18:24

One would expect a minimum of competence.

18:25

If automating doesn't work, just have a man do it manually.

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18:25

Isn't that what MPEX did?

18:29

What minimum competence? They are competently stealing.

18:30

Coinbase probably is doing the same thing but they have a larger pool to use to keep up apperances

18:31

It's just insanity is all.

18:32

Also afaik although "the price hit 35k" yesterday, one could not actually purchase a btc for $35,000

18:33

trinque

what do you mean "could not actually"?

18:33

trinque

I know folks that got limit orders filled

18:34

Oh, now the soundbite hits experience; which will win?

18:37

i concede to trinque immediately, my source is people bitching on reddit

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19:23

lol

19:26

the exch rate aint a scalar. and this means a number of things, including that just because the site proclaims 'price is $int', does not mean that anyone in particular can buy or sell for $int; or that the order in which people who show up get to do so is 1st-come-1st-served or even at all random.

19:27

this is illustrated well by the recent video card shortage -- occasionally they are advertised in various places, even at close to 'peacetime' price, but rapidly vanish. (to be then resold for 3x)

19:33

An advantage of using older hardware is I wasn't aware of this GPU shortage for years, and still don't care.

19:34

How does btcinfobot determine the conversion rate, anyway?

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19:53

shinohai

verisimilitude: bitstamp api

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20:11

How does bitstamp do it?

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20:56

verisimilitude: it's (nominally, in fact with all kindsa dirty tricks, see above) a market. people buy, sell.

20:59

shinohai

"vwap" simply take bitstamp + coinbase 24hr petrodollar volume and average it. Can +/- exchanges a u like.

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23:16

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-05-21#1037177 << this only worx when you run a high-class pyramid or otherwise costly service, it doesn't scale to 'million morons with lunch money'

23:16

Logged on 2021-05-21 14:22:31 verisimilitude: If automating doesn't work, just have a man do it manually.

23:17

( to be fair, scales to any small l1-type service, e.g. asciilifeform's isp. simply not to 'public, let every redditard come in for free' items.)

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