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10:59 asciilifeform !w poll
10:59 watchglass Polling 15 nodes...
10:59 watchglass 185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect!
10:59 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.022s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=678026
10:59 watchglass 185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect!
10:59 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=677931
10:59 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=678026
10:59 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.164s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=678026
10:59 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=678005 (Operator: whaack)
10:59 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.161s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=678026
10:59 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.283s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=678026
10:59 watchglass 176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.335s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412036 (Operator: jurov)
10:59 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.331s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=677931
10:59 watchglass 108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.545s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=677872 (Operator: asciilifeform)
11:00 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
11:00 btcinfobot Current BTC price in USD: $57921.43
11:00 watchglass 84.16.46.130:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
11:14 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-05#1033855 << good idea. recall, i did this w/ 'microwriter'. looking forward to seeing.
11:14 snsabot Logged on 2021-04-05 23:04:51 verisimilitude: I think measuring speed may be best done by making a brief video.
~ 55 minutes ~
12:10 asciilifeform meanwhile, in lulz.
12:12 asciilifeform ( and variously interesting from same author. )
12:13 asciilifeform 'Bitcoin is not trying to damage or sabotage its opponents, because it isn’t trying anything and it knows no opponents. It has no awareness whatsoever of who might oppose it or why. It is simply an alternative; an exit valve; an opt-out. It is competing only insofar as it is proving to be a far superior alternative. It is not a sword for Theseus to fight the Minotaur, but a thread to follow
12:13 asciilifeform to exit the labyrinth. Bitcoin is Ariadne.'
12:13 asciilifeform 'There will be tremendous value in normalizing this rhetoric amidst the likely growing chorus of opposition desperate to smear Bitcoin as inherently nefarious, or hostile, even. Opponents must be forced to explain what is wrong with people interacting freely, and why true goodness can only follow from coercion, in their understanding. Should those who have found a way out of the unbearable
12:14 asciilifeform labyrinth of capital strip mining not take it? What do they owe the Minotaur?
12:14 asciilifeform '
~ 17 minutes ~
12:31 thimbronion asciilifeform: I've been following that guy on twitter. Had a spat with one of the dork web dweebs.
12:32 asciilifeform thimbronion: clicked by accident, then thought 'hey, not complete moron!'
~ 1 hours 51 minutes ~
14:24 verisimilitude The MicroWriter video is what I'd in mind, yes.
~ 40 minutes ~
15:04 verisimilitude I really hate seeing anything about these startups being given billions while unprofitable, because it reminds me of how the Lisp machine companies were allowed to die.
15:06 verisimilitude It's awful to read an ARM press release about partial-memory safety in hardware and know they're a band of liars poorly-reimplementing the past.
15:21 asciilifeform verisimilitude: i rec to read the history re e.g. symbolics inc. arguably died ~of~ 'easy billions' (built expensive factories, then 'star wars' closed, buyers ~evaporated)
15:24 verisimilitude I've read some papers about it.
15:25 verisimilitude ``Symbolics: A Failure of Heterogeneous Engineering''
15:29 verisimilitude Still, MicroSoft doesn't face punishment when its software fails; no, the FBI attacks the ``criminals'' instead.
15:31 asciilifeform verisimilitude: see also.
15:44 verisimilitude Yes; it occured to me lately that Cloudflare, et al, have just centralized a distributed system; what a shame this is enough to cut off oxygen to the real thing.
15:57 asciilifeform verisimilitude: making things Actually Permanently Work aint profitable. is the basic idea.
15:57 snsabot Logged on 2020-12-16 14:53:05 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: upstack -- imho it is worth understanding why well-designed, simple, and functional systems remain obscure, while perl/cpp/microshit 'wins'. if more sane folx understood the basics of the underlying civilizational decay which powers this process, would die of cirrosis less often and overall happier imho
15:58 asciilifeform see also.
15:58 snsabot Logged on 2020-08-20 19:16:49 asciilifeform: Aerthean: related reading. it is ~very~ difficult to profit by 'actually Do Right Thing' in engineering, vs. 'convincingly pretend to Do Right Thing' , 'i can't believe it's not butter!' atrocities.
16:02 verisimilitude Yes, I know.
16:12 verisimilitude When I first began my computing journey, I didn't know the extent of the vile rot.
~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~
17:23 Aerthean I've found asciilifeform's notion of "the bottle" waiting for every honest engineering type a very real fear. Most days seem spent tilting at windmills, fighting intransigent bureaucracies, sitting in pointless meetings that waste inordinate amounts of time, and dealing with broken artifacts.
17:25 verisimilitude I'm unfamiliar with this, but presume this bottle holds soothing spirits.
17:26 verisimilitude Also, hello, Aerthean; I don't recall if we've had a discussion before.
17:28 verisimilitude My prime struggle is with the machine and its terrible software, not yet others.
17:29 Aerthean @verisimilitude Hi Verisimilitude, I've followed the log but haven't said much recently, life etc.
17:33 Aerthean I've been in the work->gym->home or gym->work->home loop, and it's an uphill battle to do more technical work at home. As you mentioned earlier about failing self-imposed schedules.
17:37 verisimilitude I just exercise at home.
17:39 Aerthean Unfortunately I currently live in an apartment.
17:39 verisimilitude It's been days or weeks since I've had a good hacking session, but I know what I'll do once I get around to it.
17:40 verisimilitude I mean push ups and the like.
17:42 Aerthean Ah, I do a fair amount of different stuff, usually alternating between more olympic lifts / other barbell work and gymnastics.
17:45 verisimilitude Say, have a website, Aerthean?
17:48 Aerthean @verisimilitude Technically yes. I bought a domain via nearly free speech and have it hosted at Linode.
17:49 Aerthean There's nothing there, I use it more for hosting files for myself.
17:49 verisimilitude Oh; that's a tad boring, then.
17:51 Aerthean Sadly yes. When I leave my current technical job in Academia I might start posting.
17:56 Aerthean I've got to run, and won't get a chance to reply to anything until later this evening.
~ 44 minutes ~
18:41 verisimilitude Say, asciilifeform, I may purchase a new machine, likely a laptop, soon; be there any recommendations for me?
18:48 asciilifeform verisimilitude: x60
18:49 asciilifeform subj.
18:49 asciilifeform that's if you want 'hygienic' box. if not, then just about anyffing you happen to like the shape of, will do.
18:50 * asciilifeform brb
~ 44 minutes ~
19:34 shinohai Meanwhile, PR devs making decisions on whether or not to activate "Taproot" via coinflip it seems: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-April/018742.html
~ 16 minutes ~
19:51 verisimilitude What's Taproot?
19:53 shinohai verisimilitude: an attempt to add mETHereum features to Bitcoin.
19:53 shinohai (see also: http://qntra.net/2020/01/power-rangers-pushing-taproot-into-their-bitcoin-network-client-fork/)
~ 37 minutes ~
20:31 asciilifeform shinohai: asciilifeform does not historically read this maculature, and doesn't think he missed much thereby
20:32 asciilifeform as pointed out in the linked qntra -- softforkisms are harmless to trb users.
20:33 shinohai What's hilarious to me is 2+ years on and thing is basically still in the vaporware phase.
20:33 shinohai (I'm not entirely convinced what is available now would actually work for 'em)
20:38 Aerthean So is it more of a "marketing" press release? "We're going to do this thing, really, honest! Now give us money!"
20:42 Aerthean Then proceed to the "I'm sorry for your loss" playbook when it doesn't work out
~ 20 minutes ~
21:02 shinohai Likely sumthin similar
~ 1 hours 14 minutes ~
22:16 verisimilitude I wonder if I should consider buying a Chromebook, and if I could meaningully
22:17 verisimilitude I wonder if I should consider buying a Chromebook, and if I could meaningfully disconnect one from the Internet.
22:22 asciilifeform verisimilitude: i rec against. the current intel-infested variants iirc even worse.
22:22 verisimilitude I've never considered such before, but I just want a machine which will actually work.
22:23 verisimilitude Every Thinkpad I've owned has developed serious hardware issues.
22:24 verisimilitude It's exhausting; I want a machine without a fan that can fail, for one.
22:38 asciilifeform verisimilitude: i also want. may want to try 'pinebook' (somewhat kludgy arm64 box, i have one here, tho no civilized linux for it quite yet)
22:45 verisimilitude What's the website for those?
22:46 asciilifeform verisimilitude: https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/
22:47 verisimilitude I appreciate it.
22:47 asciilifeform verisimilitude: may be cheaper (and less wait) 2ndhand
22:48 asciilifeform afaik is closest thing to a terraformable fanless portable box currently made.
22:48 * asciilifeform bbl
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