#asciilifeform | 2021-03-10

Logged on 2021-03-09 17:42:07 asciilifeform: thimbronion: i would literally rather talk with hoboes in the street than read hn. your link is a textbook example of why.

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reddit at least has one forum called "ChangeMyView", where people go specifically in order to have open conversation; the generic "comment on news story" model does not prime folks for learning, only for responding.

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-09#1033055 << this one seems to be about the protocol itself, rather than other specific sites; although I've not read each of your articles, and only searched by title.

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Logged on 2021-03-09 16:24:31 verisimilitude: I've even an article detailing ways other holes displease me.

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on the subject of articles there: did you ever publish your base-thirty hieroglyphs ?

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Logged on 2021-01-25 15:14:34 verisimilitude: I've done light work on creating a set of thirty glyphs for a base thirty system.

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adlai considers the design philosophy seen in the Base58 system, similar to that of "start with block of marble, remove everything that does not resemble desired result", a better way of coping with the current state of computing systems;

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however, it's always possible to plan for a better system.

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asciilifeform: do you use mosh? Or is it a broken concept or is there maybe something better?

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thimbronion: never used (though heard of.)

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since haven't tried, cannot comment in detail. but iirc is decent example of gains from udpization of a traditional tcp protocol.

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( in particular, this )

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Logged on 2021-03-09 13:56:27 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-09#1033017 << dependence on ip fields imho absolutely poison here. 1 of the great wins from a new packet protocol is, potentially, total agnosticism of carrier (not only ip origin/dest, but even whether carried over an 'aimed' protocol at all, vs. e.g. shortwave)

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-10#1033095 << many yrs ago, turned into a 'reddit with pretensions'

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Logged on 2021-03-10 10:44:50 adlai: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-09#1033064 << I always perceived news.yc as being explicitly part of the Y Combinator conglomerate; essentially, a shared watercooler for folks in their startups [including graduates and hopefuls]

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verisimilitude

That's the one, adlai; this has some of my designs for numerical glyphs.

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meanwhile, in other lulz : 'git: malicious repositories can execute remote code while cloning'

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asciilifeform: For me it solves the problem of having to relogin to whatever servers after closing the lappy and changing cafes/houses/countries/whatevers.

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thimbronion: i can picture the use case. asciilifeform however does not often work from inside a moving vehicle and normally wants to ~know~ if something had disrupted the connection.

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thimbronion: reading the docs for 'mosh' -- i do not like the 'predictive' thing. what's the point of fooling the user into thinking that his keystrokes got through, if they have not?

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'The client makes guesses about the effect each new keystroke will have on the screen, and when confident renders the effects immediately. The client verifies its predictions and can repair the screen state if necessary.'

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could ask other q's, e.g. why relies on AES-128 ?

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that kind of thing inevitably makes me wonder what ~else~ the authors had nsa.crippled.

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asciilifeform: I'm not sure about the predictive stuff, but it does help sometimes on a slow connection to see what I've typed appear on the screen before it gets to the server and back.

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asciilifeform: in any case I was mainly curious about how asciilifeform goes about dealing with frequent disconnections to the server due to lappy closing.

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thimbronion: perhaps did not make it clear : i deal with it by avoiding, whenever possible, to rely on remote shell from a lappy.

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thimbronion: on those occasions when lappy at beach, on plane, etc -- simply kept local copy of errything.

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asciilifeform: ty

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http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-09#1033044 << fwiw, where in tarnation do you find 'ip'?

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