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feedbot |
http://verisimilitudes.net/2021-03-03 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Split unto Mechanical Realizations |
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~ 9 hours 42 minutes ~ |
| 10:27 |
asciilifeform |
dpb: seems like you finally have the tarball; i switched off the lulazon mirror (will leave the other 2 for nao) |
| 10:27 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 10:27 |
btcinfobot |
Current BTC price in USD: $49183.26 |
| 10:27 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
Polling 15 nodes... |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.039s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=673002 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673002 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.088s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.102s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=673126 (Operator: whaack) |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.221s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.297s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.273s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673002 |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.344s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=412018 (Operator: jurov) |
| 10:27 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.263s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 |
| 10:28 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.453s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=673138 |
| 10:28 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
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| 12:57 |
feedbot |
http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2021/jwrd-logs-for-Mar-2021/ << Fixpoint -- #jwrd Logs for Mar 2021 |
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~ 1 hours 19 minutes ~ |
| 14:17 |
dpb |
asciilifeform, yep. got it, thank you very much. And going forward, the answer to "how do i download this in oklahoma" is rent a amazon thing to route it |
| 14:18 |
asciilifeform |
dpb: outta curiosity, what was the net wall clock time on yer end for the download ? |
| 14:19 |
dpb |
what does that mean |
| 14:19 |
asciilifeform |
dpb: seconds, from start to finish |
| 14:20 |
dpb |
i didn't keep such track, but it finished in the early am this morning |
| 14:21 |
asciilifeform |
so let's take this point in time as start |
| 14:21 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-02-26 18:20:55 dpb: that works. ty |
| 14:21 |
dpb |
yes |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
and let's say 0hrs today as fin |
| 14:26 |
asciilifeform |
452400s. 278792347611byte / 452400s ~= 600kByte/s. avg. |
| 14:27 |
asciilifeform |
it aint clear to asciilifeform that the mirrors (of which asciilifeform baked 3; and iirc trinque also 1) made much diff |
| 14:28 |
asciilifeform |
dpb you might want to try musk's new low orbit dish thing, supposedly goes 100-200mB/s with tight ping |
| 14:28 |
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asciilifeform not tried |
| 14:30 |
asciilifeform |
dpb: lemme know whether the tar worx for you. keep in mind that by nao that snapshot is ~month outta date |
| 14:34 |
asciilifeform |
dpb: also think about whether you can actually keep a noad synced reliably on a ~600kB/s pipe. (in principle oughta. but in practice a good % of a noad's bw is wasted on being fed liquishit) |
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~ 1 hours 8 minutes ~ |
| 15:43 |
asciilifeform |
hrm feedbot apparently no longer feeds my www anywhere but in #s... |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
Repair of sabotaged mathematical glyphs in certain Linux distros. << ACHTUNG ffa readers ! |
| 15:46 |
shinohai |
^ I noticed above behaviour on my toilet lappy running 5.12 kernel asciilifeform ... but hadn't got that far to notice a problem via ffa yet. |
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| 15:53 |
verisimilitude |
A ``toilet lappy'' is a poor machine or one set near the toilet? |
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| 15:55 |
verisimilitude |
I've had similar font issues with mine articles, despite their simplicity. Under Android phones, monospace fonts don't work, so my machine code documentings look poor. |
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| 15:55 |
verisimilitude |
My solution was apathy. |
| 15:57 |
shinohai |
verisimilitude: "toilet lappy" the one I use for streaming torrents, play retroarch games, etc. |
| 15:57 |
shinohai |
"At least it's not Debian!" (tm) |
| 16:07 |
verisimilitude |
Trying to preserve my hands has made me realize how awful so many Emacs chords are. |
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| 16:07 |
verisimilitude |
Each of M-<, M->, and C-M-! require three fingers strewn around. |
| 16:08 |
verisimilitude |
s/C-// |
| 16:09 |
verisimilitude |
The C-M-% for query-replace-regexp is particularly bad. |
| 16:11 |
trinque |
verisimilitude: yeah, my left hand's pinky is more or less trashed by mapping esc to caps-lock and using vim bindings. |
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| 16:12 |
trinque |
I'm probably soon to get one of those split keyboards with the thumb modifiers and move esc in there. |
| 16:12 |
trinque |
might dvorak up at that time too. |
| 16:13 |
trinque |
asciilifeform: would be amusing if the onlinecodes thing gave faster throughput just by virtue of not being in anyone's packet analysis rules yet, aside the greater efficiency of the protocol. |
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| 16:13 |
trinque |
one of the primary contemplated applications was efficent multisource download |
| 16:14 |
verisimilitude |
I may eventually find myself entering these chords with my yet-to-arrive chording keyboard, but I'll more likely try to avoid them entirely. |
| 16:14 |
trinque |
ftr I'll seed that db snap for quite a while; isn't harming anything |
| 16:14 |
trinque |
verisimilitude: ah, thinking of the chord device specifically for emacs bindings? |
| 16:14 |
trinque |
that's a compelling idea tbh |
| 16:14 |
verisimilitude |
No, my BAT. |
| 16:15 |
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trinque recalls the "mother of all demos" having a chording device. |
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| 16:15 |
verisimilitude |
As for that codes system, I've not yet read the other papers required to understand it properly. |
| 16:15 |
trinque |
not a big deal; I've been digesting it also |
| 16:15 |
trinque |
if the notions arrive in multiple skulls at some point all the better |
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| 16:15 |
verisimilitude |
The paper mentions ``150 lines of Java'', so this doesn't seem like much work. |
| 16:16 |
trinque |
nah, seems very straightforward actually. |
| 16:17 |
trinque |
which makes it all the more sad that we're using connection-based protocols still. |
| 16:17 |
verisimilitude |
I could recognize, by what I understood, the OR nodes of this tree distribution are what seem to allow for message recovery. |
| 16:17 |
trinque |
verisimilitude: recall the way multiple parties implemented a V? |
| 16:17 |
trinque |
my intent was to get multiple folks to do same here. |
| 16:17 |
verisimilitude |
Sure. |
| 16:18 |
trinque |
I have not stopped anything meanwhile. |
| 16:18 |
verisimilitude |
Say, does anyone know offhand how many words Latin has, sans declensions and conjugations? |
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| 16:19 |
trinque |
it'd probably be quite the historical review to find out, but if you wanted a ballpark, could see what whitaker's words contains for stems |
| 16:20 |
verisimilitude |
I wonder if the ceiling of the base two logarithm of this count is favorable to some ideas. |
| 16:23 |
verisimilitude |
I wonder if twelve bits be enough. |
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~ 1 hours 31 minutes ~ |
| 17:55 |
verisimilitude |
Oh, I'm reminded of some common crocodile tears: ``Connectionless protocols that allow responses large compared to requests are bad, because large corporations get DDoSed by them!!!'' |
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~ 1 hours 10 minutes ~ |
| 19:06 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032786 << to be pedantic, it's a sabotaged xorg fonts kit, nuffin to do w/ kernel |
| 19:06 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 15:46:34 shinohai: ^ I noticed above behaviour on my toilet lappy running 5.12 kernel asciilifeform ... but hadn't got that far to notice a problem via ffa yet. |
| 19:08 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032787 << it's traditional jargon for a machine where one runs shitware (whether closed- or open- src), rendering it unhygienic (for crypto or even for being worth maintaining other than via win95 'nuke hdd erry other year' method) |
| 19:08 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 15:53:40 verisimilitude: A ``toilet lappy'' is a poor machine or one set near the toilet? |
| 19:09 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032788 << last i saw, ffa rendered 100% correctly under turdroid. feel free to crib the html liquishits |
| 19:09 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 15:55:01 verisimilitude: I've had similar font issues with mine articles, despite their simplicity. Under Android phones, monospace fonts don't work, so my machine code documentings look poor. |
| 19:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032792 << i've in fact never once pressed a 3-key chord in emacs -- or anywhere else, not counting ctrl-alt-del -- and don't ever intend to |
| 19:10 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 16:07:18 verisimilitude: Trying to preserve my hands has made me realize how awful so many Emacs chords are. |
| 19:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032796 << oblig naggum. (and see also.) |
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| 19:13 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 16:11:56 trinque: verisimilitude: yeah, my left hand's pinky is more or less trashed by mapping esc to caps-lock and using vim bindings. |
| 19:13 |
snsabot |
(trilema) 2018-01-05 asciilifeform: but then again why the everlivingfuck would i run with defaults on a ~configurable~ tool that i use 14+ hr/day ) |
| 19:13 |
asciilifeform |
fix yer .emacs, folx, before it 'fixes' you. |
| 19:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032799 << proper crypto oughta (almost by definition, imho) make these irrelevant |
| 19:14 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 16:13:20 trinque: asciilifeform: would be amusing if the onlinecodes thing gave faster throughput just by virtue of not being in anyone's packet analysis rules yet, aside the greater efficiency of the protocol. |
| 19:15 |
asciilifeform |
really the only plaintext field in a packet oughta be the destination. |
| 19:16 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032806 << see also. (interestingly, the youtube clip of motad i had in there, is long-dead... anyone have replacement?) |
| 19:16 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 16:15:07 trinque: recalls the "mother of all demos" having a chording device. |
| 19:17 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032809 << i'd actually rec that folx start w/ luby's method, for study -- it is the simplest (and gets across the idea) |
| 19:17 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 16:15:39 trinque: if the notions arrive in multiple skulls at some point all the better |
| 19:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-03-04#1032822 << somehow the idjit isps who ~to this day~ happily route packets w/ forged (i.e. originated outside of any of their owned ipblocks) source -- Officially blameless |
| 19:18 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-03-04 17:55:42 verisimilitude: Oh, I'm reminded of some common crocodile tears: ``Connectionless protocols that allow responses large compared to requests are bad, because large corporations get DDoSed by them!!!'' |
| 19:20 |
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asciilifeform recalls mp, proud cocksure ignoramus, 'i hate udp, it's what ddos is made of' |
| 19:21 |
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asciilifeform bbl. |