00:39 |
verisimilitude |
Yes, a stenotype may not be quite what I'm looking for after all. |
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~ 1 hours 1 minutes ~ |
01:41 |
verisimilitude |
It's a shame I see no venue to purchase a CyKey from. |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
02:03 |
verisimilitude |
What a further shame it looks like a wireless device, which becomes a security liability. |
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~ 11 hours 29 minutes ~ |
13:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-15#1031591 << afaik that one's been extinct for many yrs. consider e.g. these. ( asciilifeform not personally tried linked vendor. but looks reasonably solid, and runs open fw ) |
13:33 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-02-15 01:41:07 verisimilitude: It's a shame I see no venue to purchase a CyKey from. |
13:34 |
thimbronion |
I tried the Twiddler - don't recommend - tendon ripping buttons. |
13:35 |
asciilifeform |
found above via xah lee. |
13:36 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: not tried twiddler. if were playing with chorders again, would prefer one where can install standard-footprint clickies |
13:37 |
asciilifeform |
ftr 'microwriter' had absolutely perfect clickies. similar to a mouse's, but with metal levers to give'em good travel, and comfortably concave buttons |
13:43 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
13:43 |
watchglass |
Polling 15 nodes... |
13:43 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
13:43 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
13:43 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.048s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=670746 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
13:43 |
watchglass |
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13:43 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.115s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=670755 |
13:43 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=670720 (Operator: whaack) |
13:43 |
watchglass |
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13:43 |
watchglass |
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13:43 |
watchglass |
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13:43 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : (182518.pk.3pp.slovanet.sk) Alive: (0.303s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=454412 |
13:44 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.097s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=670626 |
13:44 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
13:44 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
13:44 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov) |
13:45 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
13:45 |
btcinfobot |
Current BTC price in USD: $48491.21 |
13:45 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
13:51 |
asciilifeform |
PDogJr: didja read this chan's subj ?? |
13:52 |
asciilifeform |
evidently not. |
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~ 29 minutes ~ |
14:21 |
verisimilitude |
I'm strongly considering this model, but I'd need to rebind all of it in software, which would be inconvenient. |
14:22 |
verisimilitude |
The Microwriter has a nicer chording model than this. |
14:27 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: this is where the moar recent open fw items win |
14:27 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. can set up whatever chords and output codes you like |
14:28 |
verisimilitude |
One thing I've learned is I don't have both the discipline and the will to buy something unassembled. |
14:30 |
verisimilitude |
I've one ergonomic keyboard bought years ago I've never assembled, and it haunts me. |
14:31 |
verisimilitude |
I'd already come across gboards from looking at stenotypes, but appreciate the suggestion all the same; I may end up buying a cheap model here and testing it out. |
14:32 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: there aint all that many chorders to choose from. gboard seems to be the cheapest / most customizable of the current crop. |
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~ 1 hours 57 minutes ~ |
16:30 |
verisimilitude |
It's truly depressing that the situation hasn't improved in the nearly nine years since that article, asciilifeform. |
16:39 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: situation with keyboards as a class, for the 3 decades asciilifeform's had contact with the subj, has been only deteriorating. |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: outta curiosity, why do you want a 1-handed kbd ? |
16:47 |
verisimilitude |
I want to preserve my hands. |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
naturally. but is idea here 'not type at all with $sparehand' ? 'don't look into laser with remaining eye'(tm)(r) ? |
16:48 |
verisimilitude |
No. |
16:48 |
asciilifeform |
then why not 2-handed chorder ? |
16:48 |
verisimilitude |
I'd use one, certainly. |
16:49 |
verisimilitude |
Plenty of the options I've seen are for one hand is all. |
16:49 |
asciilifeform |
iirc 'bat' has a 2-handed version. |
16:49 |
verisimilitude |
The BAT has a left and a right variant. |
16:49 |
verisimilitude |
That's four hundred dollars, though, so I'd probably buy a left and only a right later. |
16:50 |
verisimilitude |
I'd want to know I like it before buying both. |
16:50 |
verisimilitude |
Oddly, Xah Lee's article claims the BAT is less ergonomic, but that seems queer. |
16:50 |
asciilifeform |
may depend heavily on your particular hand geometry. |
16:51 |
asciilifeform |
(there's 0 reason why a chorder couldn't be made adjustible, but sadly most to date have not been, designer assumed that 'one size fits all') |
16:51 |
verisimilitude |
Unlike the gboard models, it has a case which looks like I could rest my wrist on it. |
16:52 |
asciilifeform |
can in principle retrofit wrist pillow on whichever device |
16:52 |
verisimilitude |
Yes. |
16:52 |
asciilifeform |
imho in world where chordism took off when it oughta have, they'd be made individually, like gloves once were (or eyeglasses still are) |
16:52 |
verisimilitude |
I agree. |
16:53 |
verisimilitude |
Ideally, I'd, but it would be exhausting to build this for myself, even with another's design, so I won't. |
16:53 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: if you find that chordism is the Right Thing for you, may eventually prove to be worth the effort |
16:53 |
verisimilitude |
That's something I loathe about this modern society, the lack of tailor-made items. |
16:54 |
verisimilitude |
My development in crafting such things for myself is also retarded by it. |
16:54 |
verisimilitude |
At least I've my tailor-made software. |
16:54 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: i've found that quite often the only way to get the hardware i want, is to build. |
16:55 |
asciilifeform |
(and not only comp irons, but even seemingly simple things, e.g. furniture) |
16:55 |
verisimilitude |
I'd like to, but time passes and I never even start. |
16:55 |
asciilifeform |
here's an exercise -- try buying a 2+m desk ~from actual wood~ in usa. |
16:56 |
verisimilitude |
I agree, that would be a good start. |
16:56 |
verisimilitude |
I'll inform if I ever get around to doing this, asciilifeform. |
16:57 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: spoiler -- unless you, personally, are in the biz of felling trees, and w/ access to sawmill -- prepare to pay $ 4figs. |
16:57 |
verisimilitude |
Unlike a keyboard, I know someone who could actually help me with this, also. |
16:58 |
asciilifeform |
good. otherwise -- will cost > than the electronics on/under it. |
16:58 |
asciilifeform |
this is merely 1 example. |
16:58 |
verisimilitude |
I see, ``actual wood'' doesn't mean pre-cut wood. |
16:59 |
asciilifeform |
'actual' as in not mdf/particleboard/whatever other names ersatz wood goes by. |
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16:59 |
* |
thimbronion was shocked to see the quality of wood used in "turd world" (extremely high) vs. pure plywood "homes" now all the rage here. |
16:59 |
verisimilitude |
I'm to understand this is as with food, thimbronion; bludgeon people until they don't know any better. |
17:00 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: on asciilifeform's homeworld, most folx lived in ferrocement boxes, rather than wooden |
17:00 |
verisimilitude |
Explain ``ferrocement'' here. |
17:00 |
verisimilitude |
Oh, just cement with metal. |
17:01 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: what I see down south is mostly poured cement + beautiful hardwood. |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: e.g. |
17:02 |
thimbronion |
Idk what the shanties are made of - but at least lots of corrugated tin or something. |
17:02 |
verisimilitude |
Oh, I'm proud to write that, unlike building things, I've at the least been able to maintain a mostly-regular exercise routine for a ways now. At the very least, my body isn't decaying. |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: a++ |
17:02 |
asciilifeform |
speaking of which, i'ma bbl. |
17:03 |
verisimilitude |
Be well. |