| 09:45 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
| 09:45 |
btcinfobot |
Current BTC price in USD: $47978.33 |
| 09:46 |
thimbronion |
People on twitter now complaining about rising food prices. |
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~ 32 minutes ~ |
| 10:18 |
shinohai |
thimbronion: rice, ramen, and torches available at the front counter. |
| 10:19 |
shinohai |
make noodles over the smoldering ruins of your enemy. |
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~ 1 hours 23 minutes ~ |
| 11:42 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: link? |
| 11:44 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1359630837990387714 |
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~ 1 hours ~ |
| 12:44 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: unsurprise ('shrinkflation' in shops, where price -- same, but sack of $substance -- smaller -- has been going monotonically since '08) |
| 12:45 |
asciilifeform |
... a lul from linked page : 'The road to socialism via inflation: * Print money, crash the reserve currency, destroy savers, and force them into inflated assets. * Asset inflation leads to inequality. Demonize asset holders and tax the nominal gains, thereby confiscating the real value of the assets.' |
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~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 13:05 |
verisimilitude |
These people have no clue what socialism is. |
| 13:05 |
verisimilitude |
Worse, they think it's bad. |
| 13:07 |
verisimilitude |
Anyway, yes, I've also noticed, years back, how the prices stay the same, but the portions get smaller. Businesses have tried to claim this is good, because customers are ``less sensitive to portion changes than price'', but that's just another way of stating they're easier to steal from that way. |
| 13:20 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: aka 'shrinkflation'(tm)(r) |
| 13:22 |
asciilifeform |
anyways, the 'tax the nominal gains' thing has worked equally well w/ au, and btc, and whatever other nominal escapes from printola. |
| 13:23 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: I don't notice food costs much, but I think the guy is claiming a recent jump. I mean, I saw a dozen eggs at the fancy supermarket for $8.00, so I could maybe see where he's coming from. 4.00 used to shock me. |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 13:42 |
verisimilitude |
I've not noticed such. I'd think if the prices were to increase dramatically, it would be among similar items first, ie. the pre-boiled eggs sold shrinkwrapped. |
| 13:56 |
asciilifeform |
oblig. |
| 14:06 |
asciilifeform |
upstack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-10#1031409 << imho this is a quite depressing / tumourificent perspective -- 'if can't expand biomass and fill known universe, There's Nuffin Worth Doing' |
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| 14:06 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-02-10 20:09:45 trinque: in prior history the game was the expansion and contraction of empires, and modern warmaking ended that. |
| 14:06 |
asciilifeform |
( see also ) |
| 14:09 |
verisimilitude |
It makes sense when we recognize most people are stupid. I could be stupid, but prefer to think I'm not. |
| 14:19 |
verisimilitude |
The only way I know of to prove intelligence in any meaningful way is acts, and too few people know even this, thinking instead that feelings are all. What a horrifying existence, to do nothing novel for one's entire life. |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 14:45 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: imho once you start even thinking 'prove my intelligence...' yer breathing own exhaust pipe |
| 14:58 |
verisimilitude |
There's merit to it. Don't have the impression I sit around thinking about it often. I don't believe it's a tainted topic which shouldn't even be mentioned. |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: can mention, wainot, all you like. just like nuffin wrong w/ mentioning division by 0. as opposed to doing it.. |
| 15:00 |
verisimilitude |
It's but a natural consequence of observing others. |
| 15:01 |
verisimilitude |
``These people sure are stupid. Wait, how do I know I'm not aso stupid?'' |
| 15:01 |
verisimilitude |
What a sentence to have missed an error in. |
| 15:02 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
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| 15:32 |
trinque |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-11#1031432 << posing it as the observed, rather than desired, truth. |
| 15:32 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-02-11 14:06:04 asciilifeform: upstack: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-10#1031409 << imho this is a quite depressing / tumourificent perspective -- 'if can't expand biomass and fill known universe, There's Nuffin Worth Doing' |
| 15:33 |
trinque |
I have plenty to do, but the cultural machine we might call "the west" hasn't known wtf to do with itself since this ceased. |
| 15:34 |
trinque |
could learn, perhaps. that'd be nice. |
| 15:39 |
verisimilitude |
I could provide more thoughts on this, but I'd rather switch modes. |
| 15:39 |
verisimilitude |
That saying, perhaps of Knuth, comes to mind, paraphrased: ``If only men would work on a few programs their entire lives, until they were perfect.'' |
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| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: the cleansing war -- will come. |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
('market can stay irrational longer than you -- solvent'(tm)(r)(c) however) |