| 05:20 |
b33r |
-q |
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~ 7 hours 49 minutes ~ |
| 13:09 |
shinohai |
$vwap |
| 13:10 |
btcinfobot |
The 24-Hour VWAP for BTC is $ 33398.31 USD |
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~ 40 minutes ~ |
| 13:50 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
Polling 15 nodes... |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.021s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668613 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668613 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=668610 (Operator: whaack) |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.101s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668613 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.100:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-100.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.192s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668611 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.148s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668611 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.282s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=392432 (Operator: jurov) |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.359s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668611 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.253s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668613 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.312s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668556 |
| 13:50 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.552s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=668611 |
| 13:51 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
| 13:51 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! |
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~ 35 minutes ~ |
| 14:26 |
verisimilitude |
This recent Python drama is amusing in relation to Common Lisp. |
| 14:27 |
verisimilitude |
My Common Lisp programs still work, and will work decades from now, when Python 4 or whatever is being pushed next. |
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| 14:28 |
shinohai |
verisimilitude: what is latest python drama? |
| 14:29 |
* |
shinohai also likes that when discovering decade+ common lisp items, they can be expected to still work with almost 0 fuss. |
| 14:29 |
verisimilitude |
The ``Pip'' is no longer working with python 2. |
| 14:29 |
shinohai |
Oh yeah I heard they were gonna nix support for Py2x stuff. |
| 14:31 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-02-01#1030678 << similarly, i've built ada-83 examples that work a++ on current gnats. |
| 14:31 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2021-02-01 14:27:12 verisimilitude: My Common Lisp programs still work, and will work decades from now, when Python 4 or whatever is being pushed next. |
| 14:31 |
verisimilitude |
The furthest back I've gone is Ada 1995. |
| 14:32 |
asciilifeform |
dead tree standards -- proper ones, rather than cpp-style -- are great. |
| 14:32 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-08 15:36:33 asciilifeform: upstack re c standard -- the authors of the standard found their hands to be tied , and ~forced~ to permit 'undefined behaviour' on acct. of total lack of meaningful standardization of ~iron~, combined w/ c's intrinsic failure to insulate against various machine-specific behaviours. |
| 14:33 |
verisimilitude |
Six of the CHIP-8 programs I've documented only previously existed as hexadecimal listings in an old magazine scan, and the newer games I've written should work in any emulator decades from now. |
| 14:33 |
verisimilitude |
People underestimate how easy it should be to write a program and then be done with it. |
| 14:34 |
verisimilitude |
This is, of course, a mixture of ignorance, stupidity, and cult brainwashing. |
| 14:35 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: the technical term for the 'normal' world where 'ohno, of course you can't build a 2014 proggy in 2021' etc -- is 'shit soup'. |
| 14:37 |
asciilifeform |
it's great for 'job security' of various lamers, but otherwise a massive tax on time, money, sanity, of errybody involved with either development or use of the resulting liquishit |
| 14:37 |
snsabot |
(agriculturalsupremacy) 2020-06-05 asciilifeform: ruby, iirc, takes this to a kind of logical conclusion -- ultimate 'job security' lang, where it is almost impossible to actually reproduce a given setup from 0. i also suspect that it is pushed by iron vendors (or at least, was, when moore's law illusion were in better health) as the thing takes ~100x the cpu cycles to do same thing even vs. perl (i.e. plays similar role to microshit's turdware during 1990s) |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 14:59 |
verisimilitude |
I saw a demonstration of Ruby's new ``highspeed'' ``irb'' REPL lately. |
| 14:59 |
verisimilitude |
What took over eleven seconds to paste into a terminal ``irb'' session now only takes a third of a second. That's ``highspeed''. |
| 15:00 |
verisimilitude |
Well, a fifth, not a third. |
| 15:00 |
asciilifeform |
lol ( + oblig ) |
| 15:03 |
verisimilitude |
It's at the point where I'd be surprised if a naive Lisp implementation still can't easily beat these languages. |
| 15:04 |
asciilifeform |
see also 'naggum's bathtub'. |
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~ 45 minutes ~ |
| 15:49 |
feedbot |
http://fixpoint.welshcomputing.com/2021/jwrd-logs-for-Feb-2021/ << Fixpoint -- #jwrd Logs for Feb 2021 |
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~ 4 hours 14 minutes ~ |
| 20:04 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: is this still a good guide for building a gentoo system? http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt |
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~ 1 hours 46 minutes ~ |
| 21:51 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: mno. will ~not~ result in a working gentoo, as it features 'emerge --sync' from now-dead repos. |
| 21:51 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: this + asciilifeform's retrogentoo mirror, however, will. |
| 21:51 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-20 17:50:24 asciilifeform: Aerthean: if you use this gentoo, you will probably also want to use my packages repo . in /etc/portage/make.conf , GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://dulap.xyz/gentoo/" . |
| 21:52 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: lemme know if yer setting up such a box and get stuck somewhere. i have a dozen of these going. |
| 22:05 |
verisimilitude |
Too few understand what a compiler is, which is a representation transformer. |
| 22:05 |
asciilifeform |
dpb: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=oanN and don't hesitate to ask if you get stuck. |
| 22:07 |
verisimilitude |
Thus, the (likely) only sensible way to write a compiler is as a term rewriting system. |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: while not untrue, it is rather like to say 'the only sensible way to build a garbage truck is as a gas-expansion system'. i.e. not usefully specific. |
| 22:13 |
verisimilitude |
Very few aspects of typical compilers couldn't be expressed as static rulesets. Seeing a compiler express them procedurally in code is an obscenity. |
| 22:14 |
verisimilitude |
GCC probably has more files than lines of code I've ever written. |
| 22:16 |
verisimilitude |
Back to the original point, few even understand this. |
| 22:17 |
verisimilitude |
Too many use the idiocy ``transpiler'' in ignorance. |
| 22:18 |
verisimilitude |
Well, now I'm just remembering a tiny compiler I wrote which was rather procedural in nature, unfortunately. |