02:11 |
flatlinejim |
i am a lifeform from australia <3 |
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~ 8 hours 13 minutes ~ |
10:24 |
asciilifeform |
welcome flatlinejim from australia. what brings you to #a ? |
10:27 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
10:27 |
watchglass |
Polling 12 nodes... |
10:27 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.041s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644153 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.082s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.091s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644153 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.135s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.221s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.193s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.213s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.335s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : (static.199.59.9.176.clients.your-server.de) Alive: (0.885s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=319773 (Operator: jurov) |
10:27 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.648s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644152 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.435s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644153 |
10:27 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.296s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=644153 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
10:28 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
10:28 |
btcinfobot |
Current BTC price in USD: $12132.87 |
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~ 1 hours 29 minutes ~ |
11:58 |
flatlinejim |
#a ? is that just shorthand for the channel? |
11:58 |
asciilifeform |
yea |
11:59 |
flatlinejim |
right |
11:59 |
flatlinejim |
i didn't even read the topic to be honest |
11:59 |
flatlinejim |
it just sounded weird enough |
11:59 |
flatlinejim |
:P |
11:59 |
asciilifeform |
i highly rec to read the topic |
11:59 |
flatlinejim |
no sweet ascii art i see :P |
12:02 |
flatlinejim |
I read the important part |
12:02 |
flatlinejim |
and introduced myself |
12:04 |
asciilifeform |
flatlinejim: so, how found the chan, and which topics interested in ? |
12:05 |
flatlinejim |
i found it via /list |
12:05 |
flatlinejim |
and i've started using IRC more since starting a cyber security course |
12:05 |
asciilifeform |
flatlinejim: are you a uni student ? |
12:06 |
flatlinejim |
not quite uni no.... more like trade training |
12:06 |
asciilifeform |
ah. nuffinwrong with that |
12:06 |
flatlinejim |
i'm enjoying :) |
12:06 |
flatlinejim |
which helps |
12:07 |
asciilifeform |
flatlinejim: most of the people in #a are here either via my www, or folx i collaborated with in the past elsewhere. |
12:08 |
flatlinejim |
oic |
12:08 |
asciilifeform |
flatlinejim: it's a quite low-traffic chan. there is a www log you can browse & search. you may find past threads to be of interest, depending on what yer interested in. |
12:10 |
flatlinejim |
cool |
12:10 |
flatlinejim |
thanks for taking the time to fill me in |
12:11 |
flatlinejim |
that looks way too technical for me to comprehend o.o |
12:11 |
asciilifeform |
flatlinejim: make use of 'search all' button, there are various threads in older chans you may find interesting. |
12:11 |
asciilifeform |
flatlinejim: what are you learning at your school ? reversing, 'ida, etc. ? |
12:14 |
flatlinejim |
it's pretty introductory at the moment, tomorrow's class is mostly designing a small network |
12:15 |
flatlinejim |
they let us dabble in some pen testing last semester |
12:15 |
flatlinejim |
probably beacause it is more interesting |
12:16 |
flatlinejim |
get the kids hooked |
12:16 |
asciilifeform |
my pov re 'security' ftr. |
12:17 |
flatlinejim |
ooh |
12:17 |
flatlinejim |
that does look interesting |
12:18 |
flatlinejim |
sweet |
12:18 |
flatlinejim |
thank you |
12:18 |
asciilifeform |
np |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
12:37 |
shinohai |
$uptime |
12:37 |
btcinfobot |
The bot has been up for: 15 hours 37 minutes and 14 seconds |
12:49 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: it does appear to auto-reconnect nao. |
12:49 |
asciilifeform |
(tho still i suspects disconnects moar often than simply fleanode weather would account for) |
12:51 |
shinohai |
Most disconnects have been manual. It does seem to hold connection well - much better than lispbot (and I can't for life of me figure out why). |
12:51 |
asciilifeform |
a. |
12:52 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: iirc the orig. lisp bot had broken 'pingpong' handling. |
12:54 |
shinohai |
I tested whaack 's "no suicide on reconnect" patch but still simply died more often than I liked. |
12:55 |
shinohai |
fwiw I'm not giving up on lispbot, like you *I really want to like it* but want to get repeatable results out of it, etc. |
12:55 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: fundamentally, if you have async multithreads, you gotta also have a lock in the message handler that'll force a ping from fleanoad to get answered immediately w/ 'pong', before bot emits anyffin else |
12:56 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: in my bot i avoided having to do this because single thread, and 100% synchronous operation. |
12:57 |
shinohai |
Same with new bot, when receives PING, immediately PONGs before anything else. |
12:57 |
btcinfobot |
Same with new bot, when receives PONG, immediately PONGs before anything else. |
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12:57 |
shinohai |
lel |
12:57 |
shinohai |
forgot about that |
12:58 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: if it still disconnects ~daily, then prolly not quite so |
13:00 |
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asciilifeform can't say more concretely w/out seeing src |
13:14 |
asciilifeform |
!q uptime |
13:14 |
snsabot |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 18d 0h 1m |
13:14 |
asciilifeform |
!w uptime |
13:14 |
watchglass |
asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 25d 20h 23m |
13:14 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: the typical fleanode-weather disconnect freq. is 1-2x/month, historically |
13:15 |
shinohai |
^ accurate, saw this while jhvh1 was in operation. |
13:16 |
asciilifeform |
if you see moar often -- likely bug on yer end. |
13:16 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: what was jhvh1 made of ? |
13:25 |
trinque |
asciilifeform: correct, orig had a huge bug related to ping/pong, whereas now yes, a bit more sensitive than I'd like, but doesn't get stuck. |
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13:25 |
trinque |
I've been distracted by "holy shit, they're going to take linux from me if I don't v-ify it" quest for some time. |
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13:26 |
shinohai |
asciilifeform: jhvh1 was python gribble clone pretty much. |
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13:27 |
trinque |
as of yesterday, ^ built itself, and this is with the gnat from ave1's item, not the "gnu" one. |
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13:27 |
trinque |
that's what raised the question of v-tronics from yest. will circle back to that thread when able in the next few days. |
13:28 |
trinque |
re: IRC, I don't imagine there are no improvements left to be made, but it'd also be mighty nice to get our own network peerings going before long, rather than relying on e.g. fleanode. |
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13:29 |
trinque |
bbl |
13:36 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019643 << indeed, deedbot seems to properly reconnect errytime for month+ nao |
13:36 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 13:25:18 trinque: asciilifeform: correct, orig had a huge bug related to ping/pong, whereas now yes, a bit more sensitive than I'd like, but doesn't get stuck. |
13:38 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019644 << imho is Right Thing to bake vtronic linux. ( tho tbf 'they'll take' is a little pessimistic, afaik asciilifeform's fossilized gentoo repo is reasonably complete. and if it aint, it oughta be, folx plz send in tarballs.. ) |
13:38 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 13:25:40 trinque: I've been distracted by "holy shit, they're going to take linux from me if I don't v-ify it" quest for some time. |
13:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019646 << what was the boojum ? was it the rts as previously i supposed ? |
13:41 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 13:27:07 trinque: as of yesterday, ^ built itself, and this is with the gnat from ave1's item, not the "gnu" one. |
13:41 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-06 17:28:43 trinque: --RTS=... |
13:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019648 << any time trinque et al have a chance to set up an ircism -- asciilifeform is game, will put node in the rack. a net of 3-4 boxes i suspect would already outperform fleanode (supposing they're righteously proper irons, rather than roach motel rentals, naturally) |
13:43 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 13:28:43 trinque: re: IRC, I don't imagine there are no improvements left to be made, but it'd also be mighty nice to get our own network peerings going before long, rather than relying on e.g. fleanode. |
13:45 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019645 << i admit that i never looked at internals of 'gribble'. own bot, wrote from empty space, which i suspect was Right Thing to do, if i had used libraryism would prolly be massaging it to this day and wondering wai disconnects |
13:45 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 13:26:46 shinohai: asciilifeform: jhvh1 was python gribble clone pretty much. |
13:49 |
asciilifeform |
as it is, i haven't had to patch bot.py since oct. of '19. |
13:53 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 205.134.172.28 |
13:53 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.063s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=425500 |
13:54 |
asciilifeform |
^ whaack i highly rec to look at (and post) yer debug.log. that thing aint eatin'. |
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~ 1 hours 46 minutes ~ |
15:40 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: here are the last 1k lines http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=mi-X |
15:41 |
whaack |
i can post more, but trinques deedbot has some unknown capacity limit that i keep hitting |
15:51 |
trinque |
haha, well.. yeah. it does. |
15:51 |
trinque |
can't snarf down foreign matter limitlessly |
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~ 21 minutes ~ |
16:13 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: this shows that it aint crashed/dead. though, where are the timestamps ? what patch set didja build with ? |
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~ 24 minutes ~ |
16:37 |
shinohai |
^ bot leaving was me doing maintenance |
16:52 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: It was pressed to jfw's bitcoin_rawtx_get_send.vpatch . |
16:52 |
whaack |
It's not immediately obvious to me how to get timestamps for bitcoin's debug.log |
16:59 |
shinohai |
Without patching client, can pipe tail of debug.log through awk: | awk '{ print strftime("[%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S]"), $0 }' |
17:00 |
shinohai |
But I'm thinking there was a timestamp patch out there somewhere. |
17:13 |
asciilifeform |
needs '-logtimestamps' in the cmdline apparently. |
17:15 |
asciilifeform |
( will work w/ whaack's current press ) |
17:17 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: add the flag to your start_trb.sh (or whatever you have) and restart the noad. |
17:20 |
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asciilifeform bbl |
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~ 25 minutes ~ |
17:45 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: Hm, getting this error now ' Bitcoin: Cannot obtain a lock on data directory /home/blockexplorer/.bitcoin. Bitcoin is probably already running.' |
17:46 |
whaack |
(prior to running bitcoind again I ran top and killed the bitcoin process with kill <pid>) |
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17:53 |
whaack |
I ran the command again, this time right into my terminal without using a start_node.sh script, and it seems to have started up |
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17:57 |
whaack |
!probe 205.134.172.28 |
17:57 |
whaack |
!w probe 205.134.172.28 |
17:58 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) |
17:58 |
whaack |
Hm, well I seem to be getting new blocks |
17:59 |
whaack |
!w probe 205.134.172.28 |
17:59 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.840s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=425519 |
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~ 47 minutes ~ |
18:46 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 205.134.172.28 |
18:47 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 20 sec.) |
18:47 |
asciilifeform |
whaack didja reboot it or wat |
18:48 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019680 << the traditional algo (at least mine) is 'kill $pid' and 30s later 'kill -9 $pid' |
18:48 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 17:46:29 whaack: (prior to running bitcoind again I ran top and killed the bitcoin process with kill <pid>) |
18:49 |
asciilifeform |
the barbaric networking coad in trb makes it so that all sockets gotta time out before it dies , if killing w/ e.g. 'stop' command or sighup |
18:49 |
asciilifeform |
(and this on top of a hardcoded delay) |
18:49 |
asciilifeform |
and indeed it dun let go of the fs lock until it drops |
18:50 |
asciilifeform |
all of this really oughta get some attention, but hasn't (tho can speak only for myself) largely because folx leave noad going for months/years typically |
18:50 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. same reason why initial sync was neglected |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019681 << lemme guess, you hung up on it and it croaked |
18:53 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 17:53:01 whaack: I ran the command again, this time right into my terminal without using a start_node.sh script, and it seems to have started up |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
!w probe 205.134.172.28 |
18:53 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.537s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=425717 |
18:53 |
asciilifeform |
aite |
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~ 31 minutes ~ |
19:25 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019630 <<< Think I have temporary fix for that bug, not pretty but works until I can dive in deeper. Now can say PING in all caps. xD |
19:25 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 12:57:44 btcinfobot: Same with new bot, when receives PONG, immediately PONGs before anything else. |
19:25 |
btcinfobot |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-08-17#1019630 <<< Think I have temporary fix for that bug, not pretty but works until I can dive in deeper. Now can say PONG in all caps. xD |
19:25 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-08-17 12:57:44 btcinfobot: Same with new bot, when receives PONG, immediately PONGs before anything else. |
19:25 |
shinohai |
welp no guess it doesnt work after all *sigh* |
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~ 1 hours 40 minutes ~ |
21:06 |
feedbot |
http://mvdstandard.net/2020/08/cold-antarctic-air-on-the-way-snow-possible-in-parts-of-the-country/ << The Montevideo Standard -- Cold Antarctic Air On The Way, Snow Possible In Parts Of The Country |
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~ 2 hours 36 minutes ~ |
23:43 |
thimbronion |
Just bore witness to the Tide economy IRL - $10.00 per bottle, several bottles lined up on the curb near a burger joint. Mexican bystanders showing serious interest. |
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