00:57 |
adlai |
shinohai: have you looked at my old 'cjhunt' abomination? |
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00:58 |
adlai |
I guess the 'national sport' of CL is to reinvent as many wheels as possible. |
00:59 |
adlai |
see the three files under https://github.com/adlai/cjhunt/tree/master/src/bitcoin |
01:01 |
adlai |
fwiw, the code there is a classic example of abusing CL's flexibility, although I'll let shinohai read for himself to test his stomach for barf-worthy lispisms |
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08:41 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
08:41 |
watchglass |
Polling 11 nodes... |
08:41 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633354 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
08:41 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.097s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.099s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
08:41 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.118s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633254 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.228s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.199s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.287s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.275s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.314s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.562s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 |
08:41 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, www comments . |
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~ 49 minutes ~ |
09:31 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-06#1014268 <<< neat adlai, will have a peek. (Though I did get last night's problem solved) |
09:31 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-06-06 00:57:30 adlai: shinohai: have you looked at my old 'cjhunt' abomination? |
09:31 |
shinohai |
In "run moar segwit" news: https://archive.is/QIfLW |
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~ 58 minutes ~ |
10:30 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: lol, complete w/ 'hardware' lollets |
10:34 |
shinohai |
Phonez that double as "cold storage" for coins are latest trend it seems, though why a device with always-on tcp/ip connection can be considered cold storage is beyond my ability to comprehend. |
10:34 |
asciilifeform |
or for that matter device that's routinely available to pickpockets, drops on concrete, etc |
10:36 |
shinohai |
Samsung claims the storage area for cryptocurrency isn't connected to internet, but I still don't grok how that works. |
10:36 |
asciilifeform |
in what sense is even 'cold' ? (which traditionally refers to privkeys put through printer to paper) |
10:37 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: ah, then the usual fritz chip idiocy |
10:37 |
shinohai |
^ That was precisely the article I was thinking of lol |
10:38 |
asciilifeform |
'secure against owner' |
10:39 |
shinohai |
I suppose diceware and printing to paper is just too low-tech for most folks. (Not enough novelty) |
10:43 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: the 'problem' with that is that hucksters can't get lamers to ~pay~ for it, it dun cost anyffin |
10:44 |
asciilifeform |
gotta sell that 500 $ magick box (that forces use of prb) somehow, neh. |
10:44 |
shinohai |
"I have these special dice, you see, that are injected with extra entropy. Not sold in stores, get them here exclusively for the low price of $99.95!" |
10:45 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: wouldn't astonish me if turned out that someone were in fact selling (loaded) dice 'for bitcoinism' somewhere |
10:46 |
asciilifeform |
( see also. ) |
10:46 |
snsabot |
Logged on 2020-05-26 11:52:21 asciilifeform: fwiw i've yet to hear of any 'btc fortune' amassed via anything other than scamming. in that respect very similar to traditional moneys. |
10:48 |
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asciilifeform will leave alone for nao the q of whether ordinary toy store dice are suitable for safety-critical rng... |
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~ 18 minutes ~ |
11:06 |
shinohai |
It's not like the chimps from places like, say blockchain.com, can do any better than toy store dice. iirc they produced rng that spit out same privkey for hundreds of wallets. |
11:12 |
trinque |
anyone have any experience building texinfo? the motherfucker randomly fails only some builds. |
11:12 |
trinque |
I'm digging around, just seeing if this is in anybody's headcaches |
11:13 |
trinque |
src is known to be clean on every build; I copy src to /tmp/build/texinfo.XXXXXX to build |
11:15 |
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trinque reruns to get a fresh barf, will bbl and paste the output |
11:24 |
shinohai |
I had texinfo cause a headache when building that static gpg-1.4.10, will dig up the build notes in a bit if helpful. |
11:29 |
trinque |
shinohai: if you mean building texinfo itself; appears to be gagging on a translation-related file, which is curious given I'm configuring like this -> ./configure --disable-nls --prefix=$PREFIX LINGUAS="en" |
11:30 |
trinque |
http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=6QCS << the barf |
11:31 |
trinque |
and it's a different file it can't find each time |
11:31 |
trinque |
also this isn't a parallel make, so I wouldn't expect race conditions stemming from that |
11:45 |
trinque |
http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pIsD << now the damned italians are to blame |
11:46 |
shinohai |
Mama Mia! |
12:01 |
trinque |
hm, might have something to do with building perl "native modules"; I've disabled that and got two consecutive successful builds |
12:01 |
trinque |
and now 3 |
12:01 |
trinque |
gonna let this loop and bbl |
12:02 |
trinque |
(I could see, having been draconian about disabling dynamic linking, that I most likely have upset perl's module loader thing) |
12:02 |
trinque |
only reason for this piece of shit's presence is the circus of gcc dependencies that want it if you actually intend to manipulate the build system. |
12:02 |
trinque |
5 builds, weee |
12:03 |
trinque |
*build system and docs |
12:03 |
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trinque bbl |
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21:19 |
feedbot |
http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-06-06 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Common Lisp Control Structures |
21:24 |
feedbot |
http://mvdstandard.net/2020/06/us-cutting-troop-numbers-in-germany-by-9500/ << The Montevideo Standard -- US Cutting Troop Numbers In Germany By 9500 |
21:35 |
asciilifeform |
trinque: iirc i had to manually cut the texinfo crapolade from at least gpg 1.4 before it'd build |
21:35 |
asciilifeform |
(and this even on traditional libc box) |
21:44 |
shinohai |
Ironically I didn't have to carve out texinfo from gpg until I switched to musl. |
21:46 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: looking at my notes, this was on a bsd box |
21:46 |
asciilifeform |
(rather than trad.gentoo) |
21:46 |
asciilifeform |
afaik 'texinfo' is simply dross, does 0 useful |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile in www comments. |
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~ 46 minutes ~ |
22:37 |
shinohai |
(macrolet ((porn () <<< ghehehe @ adlai |