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00:57 adlai shinohai: have you looked at my old 'cjhunt' abomination?
00:58 adlai I guess the 'national sport' of CL is to reinvent as many wheels as possible.
00:59 adlai see the three files under https://github.com/adlai/cjhunt/tree/master/src/bitcoin
01:01 adlai fwiw, the code there is a classic example of abusing CL's flexibility, although I'll let shinohai read for himself to test his stomach for barf-worthy lispisms
~ 7 hours 39 minutes ~
08:41 asciilifeform !w poll
08:41 watchglass Polling 11 nodes...
08:41 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633354 (Operator: asciilifeform)
08:41 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.097s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 108.31.170.3:8333 : (pool-108-31-170-3.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.099s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382 (Operator: asciilifeform)
08:41 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.118s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633254
08:41 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.228s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 192.151.158.26:8333 : Alive: (0.199s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.287s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.275s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 188.121.168.69:8333 : (rev-188-121-168-69.radiolan.sk) Alive: (0.314s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.562s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=633382
08:41 asciilifeform meanwhile, www comments .
~ 49 minutes ~
09:31 shinohai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-06-06#1014268 <<< neat adlai, will have a peek. (Though I did get last night's problem solved)
09:31 snsabot Logged on 2020-06-06 00:57:30 adlai: shinohai: have you looked at my old 'cjhunt' abomination?
09:31 shinohai In "run moar segwit" news: https://archive.is/QIfLW
~ 58 minutes ~
10:30 asciilifeform shinohai: lol, complete w/ 'hardware' lollets
10:34 shinohai Phonez that double as "cold storage" for coins are latest trend it seems, though why a device with always-on tcp/ip connection can be considered cold storage is beyond my ability to comprehend.
10:34 asciilifeform or for that matter device that's routinely available to pickpockets, drops on concrete, etc
10:36 shinohai Samsung claims the storage area for cryptocurrency isn't connected to internet, but I still don't grok how that works.
10:36 asciilifeform in what sense is even 'cold' ? (which traditionally refers to privkeys put through printer to paper)
10:37 asciilifeform shinohai: ah, then the usual fritz chip idiocy
10:37 shinohai ^ That was precisely the article I was thinking of lol
10:38 asciilifeform 'secure against owner'
10:39 shinohai I suppose diceware and printing to paper is just too low-tech for most folks. (Not enough novelty)
10:43 asciilifeform shinohai: the 'problem' with that is that hucksters can't get lamers to ~pay~ for it, it dun cost anyffin
10:44 asciilifeform gotta sell that 500 $ magick box (that forces use of prb) somehow, neh.
10:44 shinohai "I have these special dice, you see, that are injected with extra entropy. Not sold in stores, get them here exclusively for the low price of $99.95!"
10:45 asciilifeform shinohai: wouldn't astonish me if turned out that someone were in fact selling (loaded) dice 'for bitcoinism' somewhere
10:46 asciilifeform ( see also. )
10:46 snsabot Logged on 2020-05-26 11:52:21 asciilifeform: fwiw i've yet to hear of any 'btc fortune' amassed via anything other than scamming. in that respect very similar to traditional moneys.
10:48 * asciilifeform will leave alone for nao the q of whether ordinary toy store dice are suitable for safety-critical rng...
~ 18 minutes ~
11:06 shinohai It's not like the chimps from places like, say blockchain.com, can do any better than toy store dice. iirc they produced rng that spit out same privkey for hundreds of wallets.
11:12 trinque anyone have any experience building texinfo? the motherfucker randomly fails only some builds.
11:12 trinque I'm digging around, just seeing if this is in anybody's headcaches
11:13 trinque src is known to be clean on every build; I copy src to /tmp/build/texinfo.XXXXXX to build
11:15 * trinque reruns to get a fresh barf, will bbl and paste the output
11:24 shinohai I had texinfo cause a headache when building that static gpg-1.4.10, will dig up the build notes in a bit if helpful.
11:29 trinque shinohai: if you mean building texinfo itself; appears to be gagging on a translation-related file, which is curious given I'm configuring like this -> ./configure --disable-nls --prefix=$PREFIX LINGUAS="en"
11:30 trinque http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=6QCS << the barf
11:31 trinque and it's a different file it can't find each time
11:31 trinque also this isn't a parallel make, so I wouldn't expect race conditions stemming from that
11:45 trinque http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pIsD << now the damned italians are to blame
11:46 shinohai Mama Mia!
12:01 trinque hm, might have something to do with building perl "native modules"; I've disabled that and got two consecutive successful builds
12:01 trinque and now 3
12:01 trinque gonna let this loop and bbl
12:02 trinque (I could see, having been draconian about disabling dynamic linking, that I most likely have upset perl's module loader thing)
12:02 trinque only reason for this piece of shit's presence is the circus of gcc dependencies that want it if you actually intend to manipulate the build system.
12:02 trinque 5 builds, weee
12:03 trinque *build system and docs
12:03 * trinque bbl
~ 9 hours 16 minutes ~
21:19 feedbot http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-06-06 << A Syndication of Verisimilitudes -- Common Lisp Control Structures
21:24 feedbot http://mvdstandard.net/2020/06/us-cutting-troop-numbers-in-germany-by-9500/ << The Montevideo Standard -- US Cutting Troop Numbers In Germany By 9500
21:35 asciilifeform trinque: iirc i had to manually cut the texinfo crapolade from at least gpg 1.4 before it'd build
21:35 asciilifeform (and this even on traditional libc box)
21:44 shinohai Ironically I didn't have to carve out texinfo from gpg until I switched to musl.
21:46 asciilifeform shinohai: looking at my notes, this was on a bsd box
21:46 asciilifeform (rather than trad.gentoo)
21:46 asciilifeform afaik 'texinfo' is simply dross, does 0 useful
21:50 asciilifeform meanwhile in www comments.
~ 46 minutes ~
22:37 shinohai (macrolet ((porn () <<< ghehehe @ adlai
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