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10:47 asciilifeform !w poll
10:47 watchglass Polling 11 nodes...
10:47 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.022s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=630119
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12:12 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-05-10#1011917 << was under the impression that he outsourced this. in any case i have working locally the server-side select mechanism inside codeblocks
12:12 snsabot Logged on 2020-05-10 23:11:11 asciilifeform: ( mp, of all people, actually 1 time wrote a server-side selector thing , but it dun work w/ indiv. lines of coad in <pre>... so i cant use.. )
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12:13 billymg though it still suffers from this same current limitation, which is more pronounced in code blocks (can only select one line at a time)
12:16 billymg i have an idea for a fix but given how long this patch has been pending i will likely first publish as is and hold the cross-paragraph selection fix for a future patch
~ 16 minutes ~
12:32 asciilifeform billymg: if you come up with one that knows how to select 1char in middle of words etc, i'd use. (tho prolly would have to use a jsism to compose'em, still, otherwise would take ages ea. time)
12:33 asciilifeform example of the kinda thing this's needed for .
12:34 asciilifeform another example .
12:35 asciilifeform billymg: and i can readily believe that he outsourced -- fella had a deadly allergy to productive work w/ own hands of any kind whatsoever
12:36 asciilifeform but since i have nfi who did the footwork, stuck attributing that piece to mp
12:41 asciilifeform fwiw the ancient selector is a steady source of headaches for asciilifeform ; not only cuz needs a js browser, but when, say, gotta amend an old article, then stuck fixing 5 others that had selector links
12:42 asciilifeform but if i can't select a variable in an equation, or line of coad , or 3 ln of coad, then thing's no use
12:46 billymg asciilifeform: ah, selecting individual characters will require something different
12:46 asciilifeform atm can't even picture schematically how it'd have to work
12:47 asciilifeform (i.e. the start=foo end=bar thing won't work for selecting an indiv. 'A' in one particular 'A := B' , unless it somehow swallows enuff surrounding text to make a unique start/end pair. and then becomes sensitive to breakage from amended article , just like old selector )
12:48 billymg right
12:48 asciilifeform would have to actually insert turds in existing articles, to make invokable selections. which seems quite ugly.
12:49 billymg this only applies to embeddable code patch i'm working on, but line numbers already linkable, e.g. http://billymg.com/2020/04/updated-patch-code-embed-plugin-for-mp-wp/#S1-L9
12:49 asciilifeform ( mp's only answer to this criticism was, roughly, 'only untermenschen post coad, Troo Men post strictly text' etc )
12:50 billymg from this, could add start/end column numbers. combination of line and column numbers for selecting down to char level
12:51 asciilifeform billymg: reminds me, at one pt i wanted to fix 'gnat2htm' so that all (rather than ~some~, as currently, and for no logical reason...) lines in the output are anchorable
12:52 asciilifeform that thing comes w/ gnat, but clearly was written with a left hand growing outta arse
12:53 * asciilifeform would like something resembling jurov's thing , to replace that with
12:53 asciilifeform afaik no off-the-shelf item exists for this tho.
12:54 billymg asciilifeform: lol at the <font> tag, haven't seen one of those in two decades probably
12:54 asciilifeform it worx, wat.
12:54 asciilifeform as does 'table'
12:54 asciilifeform and even worx on 'lynx' etc.
12:55 asciilifeform billymg: i write these just like 2decades ago -- by hand
12:56 asciilifeform the worked-example tables in 21a-bis were actually the 1st time i resorted to writing proggies to generate the htmsoup. and even there, had to fiddle by hand after
12:57 billymg asciilifeform: true, and i find table very useful still (am using it for the codeblocks actually). i guess nothing wrong with font tag, but <span class="variable"> rather than <font color="red"> makes it so you can later update your highlight color with one line of CSS rather than run old files through sed
12:59 asciilifeform i did the colours in the logotron via cssism , but there it was largely to save bytes / cut load time, rather than 'what if want to change colours later' (it's autogenned anyway, can still change w/ 1 knob)
13:00 billymg > autogenned << ah, fair
13:00 asciilifeform whereas in hand-written article, if for some odd reason 'oh noez, oughta have been 0xEE0000 not 0xFF0000' , emacs 'replace-string' worx just same..)
13:01 asciilifeform wai would i want to have to change the css turd for my entire www , to colour 1 article...
13:04 asciilifeform btw billymg iirc you asked to see the peh colourizer. it's in ch21c patch, but since delayed this (had to do the 15 fix) will post nao.
13:06 billymg asciilifeform: oh nice, yeah i'll start looking at it and think of how to integrate into the codeblock formatter
13:06 asciilifeform ^ the version currently in use .
13:07 asciilifeform billymg: dunno if this item is useful in your thing, but i did promise to post. so there it is.
13:09 billymg asciilifeform: the code embed thing works similar to footnotes, but with [langname[...]] as the open/close tags
13:09 asciilifeform billymg: how do you handle the lang syntaxes ?
13:10 * asciilifeform admits, has not yet read billymg's detailed guide
13:11 billymg well currently it only supports plaintext and diff (note also this version is already out of date, with indexes instead of strings for lang keys)
13:11 asciilifeform ah
13:11 billymg and diff was easy to support, since coloring is only at the line level
13:11 asciilifeform right
13:12 billymg but way it works is just calls a highlighter function, so would simply call out to a more complex highlighter in the case of other langs
13:12 asciilifeform makes sense
13:13 asciilifeform i ended up bashing head to bloody pulp against the baked-in assumptions in 'geshi' (colourizer lib), where author assumed that "" will ALWAYS be string delimiters, etc
13:15 asciilifeform ( in 'peh', double quote is 'dup' operator, and there aint any strings, tho there is a quoted output mode, delimited by square brackets , which needed similar handling to stringism in trad. langs )
13:18 billymg asciilifeform: ah, got it
13:18 billymg i see now it relies on geshi as a dependency too (i'm not familiar with this library yet)
13:18 asciilifeform it does, an' it's a filthy thing
13:19 * asciilifeform does ~not~ recommend 'geshi'. but at same time asciilifeform aint a wwwist, and had problem that had to be solved reasonably quickly
13:20 billymg asciilifeform: was gonna ask if it was mostly a matter of time, makes sense
13:20 asciilifeform was 100% matter of time.
13:21 asciilifeform just like the logotron. folx threw up when they saw what it consisted of, but fughet that it was written in 5d, start to end
13:21 billymg cool, will have to look into it further then
13:21 billymg gotta run now, irl tasks
13:21 asciilifeform laters then
13:30 * asciilifeform for colourization of 'diff', would like sumething like what phf had . but no src was ever, grr, published for it...
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