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feedbot |
http://qntra.net/2020/02/qntra-s-qntr-january-2020-report/ << Qntra -- Qntra (S.QNTR) January 2020 Report |
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http://qntra.net/2020/02/pantsuitist-illinois-house-speaker-madigans-office-hit-with-search-warrant/ << Qntra -- Pantsuitist Illinois House Speaker Madigan's Office Hit With Search Warrant |
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http://qntra.net/2020/02/openwrt-package-checksums-not-checked-opening-mitm-opportunities-and-further-downstream-havok/ << Qntra -- OpenWRT Package Checksums Not Checked Opening MITM Opportunities And Further Downstream Havok |
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| 21:00 |
Apocalyptic |
asciilifeform: do you have experience with this claim ? |
| 21:00 |
snsabot |
(trilema) 2020-02-01 mircea_popescu: it doesn't even fucking save memory, the five bytes this'll save over a lifetime is dwarved by the five megabytes in extra libc needed to support the insanity |
| 21:01 |
Apocalyptic |
evaluating expression in if blocks seem to be well defined in C89, why would you need 5 MB, let alone extra libc to support that ? |
| 21:02 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: the part re 'massive chunk of libc' is plain nonsense, libc has 0 to do w/ the c grammar, and i've built 'over 9000' c proggies w/out libc linked |
| 21:02 |
asciilifeform |
Apocalyptic: even if were re the co |
| 21:02 |
Apocalyptic |
that was my thinking as well, had to double check |
| 21:02 |
asciilifeform |
compiler -- still exaggeration |
| 21:03 |
Apocalyptic |
I can see massive chunk of libc to be involved only by including new calls to functions |
| 21:03 |
Apocalyptic |
which clearly isn't the case here |
| 21:05 |
shinohai |
php. It rots the brain. |
| 21:05 |
Apocalyptic |
anyway just another mp-claim from arse then |
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| 21:26 |
asciilifeform |
shinohai: fella doesn't program. this has both + and - sides. very often had ~right~ idea of 'how ought to work' specifically because not absorbed 'industry standard' nonsense. |
| 21:28 |
asciilifeform |
moreover, i dun expect folx who never had occasion to write (even toy) compiler, to have solid idea re what syntactic knobs are expensive to implement, and which -- cheap |
| 21:30 |
asciilifeform |
this sometimes applies even to folx who nominally 'went in for book larnin-'. e.g. gosling had notion that lambdas 'cost too much' when shat forth java. and van rossum, similarly, re python |
| 21:31 |
asciilifeform |
difficult to evaluate costs/roi of thing you dun use. there's a very specific mindset of some designers, where 'you wouldn't ask cow re how to design meat processing plant' |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
see also. |
| 21:36 |
asciilifeform |
unrelatedly, it seems that phf is alive -- and updated patch display! ty phf. plz consider visit to #a ! |
| 21:37 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. logotron tree nao current, also. |
| 21:42 |
shinohai |
oh hey, neato |
| 21:42 |
asciilifeform |
jfw's keksum also nao there. |
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| 22:35 |
asciilifeform |
damaki: who might you be ? |
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| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
* damaki has quit (Quit: Leaving) << lol apparently these end up here instead of in #t nao... nfi |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
in other lulz |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
5.101.0.209 - - [01/Feb/2020:22:56:21 +0000] "GET /?a=fetch&content=<php>die(@md5(HelloThinkCMF))</php> HTTP/1.1" 302 215 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.108 Safari/537.36" "- |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
poor sad phucks have nfi that there aint any php there.. |