#asciilifeform | 2020-01-15

16:57

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2020-01-15#1956883 <<< would like to hear asciilifeform 's thoughts on "why detached sigs" when he has spare time.

16:57

snsabot

(trilema) 2020-01-15 diana_coman: hardly seems worth it though for that sort of case and I don't quite have any other clear reason for detached sig on vpatches.

17:10

feedbot

http://qntra.net/2020/01/usg-nsa-and-microsoft-push-emergency-windows-crypto-update-while-depreciating-windows-7/ << Qntra -- USG.NSA And Microsoft Push "Emergency" Windows Crypto Update While Depreciating Windows 7

~ 23 minutes ~

17:34

asciilifeform

shinohai: mp will helpfully illustrate why, when he breaks it ( similarly to how it was mengele who finally demonstrated 'what happens when cut out liver and sew back up' )

17:36

shinohai

It just feels neater, at any rate, to put sigs from ppl in your wot in `seals/` imho

17:36

asciilifeform

shinohai: nuffin to do with 'feels neater'.

17:37

shinohai

No, of course not but I simply like well organized things.

17:38

asciilifeform

detached sigs are indep. of the signed matter and of ea. other, which gives decentralized ( folx dun need to 'ask permission' to sign ) and lang-indep. system.

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17:38

asciilifeform

mp otoh wants, naturally, centralized reich, with self as 'sun emperor'. entirely logical that he'd want to break v in specifically this way.

17:42

asciilifeform

i expect at some pt he'll 'reinvent' pki also. what insubordinate nonsense, where plebes can rsa w/out permission from the throne!1

17:43

asciilifeform

fwiw shinohai fella was quite up-front re what he is, w/ the 'meaning flows from structure of authority' etc.

17:44

asciilifeform

this aint some kinda 'bait & switch', but logical flow from his quite overt 'i am god-emperor' pos.

17:52

asciilifeform

shinohai: ftr i dun have a problem w/ crackpots making broken/incompat. vtrons. it only becomes a problem if you want to work with'em. i'ma ignore, just as i ignore microshit's idea of crypto.

18:01

shinohai

^ This is of course the proper stance, simply kek and move on.

18:01

asciilifeform

this sorta clownade may be new/interesting to american folx, but on asciilifeform's homeworld there is looong history of this. the finale is quite predictable.

18:01

snsabot

(trilema) 2017-11-14 asciilifeform: when asciilifeform wanted to read lysenko in the original , he had to visit the rarest-rarities reading room in american national lib of medicine

18:02

asciilifeform

'3rd dud harvest in a row' 'let's shoot more wreckers' '4th dud harvest...' 'shoot more wreckers' etc

18:07

asciilifeform

i'll admit it aint clear to me why folx want to endlessly re-enact the tragicomedies of 20th c. on tabletop. but evidently some do.

~ 20 minutes ~

18:28

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asciilifeform finds it interesting how 'god emperors' ~never seem to realize that they themselves breed 'pantsuits' ( typically dim folx, trying to act on their entirely unsurprising disillusionment w/ concept of 'meaning from structure of authority' ) -- rather like how population of vermin explodes in time of war

~ 23 minutes ~

18:52

feedbot

http://bvt-trace.net/2020/01/re-pbrt/ << bvt's backtrace -- Re PBRT

~ 2 hours 54 minutes ~

21:47

feedbot

http://bingology.net/2020/argentina-getting-pissy-with-uruguay-envy/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Argentina Getting Pissy With Uruguay Envy

~ 35 minutes ~

22:23

BingoBoingo

In local news https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/La-broma-pesada-a-empresario-argentino-le-tiraron-un-animal-muerto-desde-un-helicoptero-uc741178