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13:06 * adlai reads github's "Arctic Code Vault" claims, primarily considering fairness of [the commission](http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-10-08#1023007) both towards and against time travellers.
13:06 snsabot (asciilifeform) 2020-10-08 adlai: will not, yet, deed a draft of the [exclusive!] contract offered to the digger of that gopher hole, although if the commons harbors any competing wolfsnakes, they can find the corroding vat of spoiled honey at ther frendly neighborhood http://80.244.243.194:7421/scalpl_310b539.tar.gz
13:07 adlai incidentally, linking that tgz from there has not, to my sight, resulted in a single reader motivated by curiosity alone, which is probably a good thing.
13:07 * adlai hopes the folks here are similarly preoccupied
13:09 adlai context, in case anyone's ears have twitched, is entirely contained within the logs of the linked channel, within a range of one week in either direction
13:11 adlai reading further in either direction will only bring you closer to [this level of uncertainty](http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-09-26#1022457)
13:11 snsabot (asciilifeform) 2020-09-26 verisimilitude: Define ``barf'' here.
13:12 asciilifeform adlai: [link][text] plz
13:13 adlai correct correction, as always^Woften :)
13:14 adlai the search-engine-in-construction should be able to follow malformed links.
13:14 adlai human log readers, ~should~ perceive that there is not a perfect process producing the text.
13:14 * adlai will also 'make better mistakes tomorrow'
13:14 asciilifeform adlai: how wouldja 'dwim'-process e.g. http:...bar ?
13:15 adlai no anchor tag
13:15 adlai two links, in square brackets.
13:15 asciilifeform ^ [htt:...foo][htt:...bar] for log readers..
13:15 adlai that is, the two uniform resource locators, without anchor tags in the generated markup
13:16 asciilifeform adlai: y'know, you could offer this as patch for logotron. i'd test.
13:16 adlai it is arguably the worst processing, since it is most verbose in terms of the text that appears on the readers' screens
13:17 adlai yes, along with deleting colon from before-last quoted line
13:18 adlai separate patches, I presume?
13:18 asciilifeform adlai: ideally
13:18 * adlai has braindamage from git world, where any commit modifying more than one line causes future bisectors to square cubes and run in circles until death
13:20 asciilifeform adlai: the 'get source code' link at the bottom of log www will take you to the vtree.
13:21 * adlai is already around 'mkdir patches^Mmkdir seals' etc
13:22 adlai now just gotta 'man 1 curl', make tea, and the electric spiders do all the rest
13:23 * adlai wonders why patches & sigs are not under /static
13:24 asciilifeform ..wat?
13:24 adlai logs.nosuchlabs.com has /static, loper-os.org has /pub
13:24 asciilifeform the latter - on different and much older box
13:24 adlai the words mean almost the same thing, although this is the "systematization of all human knowledge" IRC channel, no?
13:28 asciilifeform adlai: the logical conclusion of 'why not easy to download vtrees' etc. is prolly this .
13:28 snsabot (asciilifeform) 2020-03-19 asciilifeform: why the hell is a typical public www bound to 1 box? specifically, why could not exist as an auto-mirrorable directory of signed material ?
13:28 asciilifeform but not written yet .
13:29 asciilifeform ( under above scheme, 'post to blog' is exactly same act as 'publish vpatch', and all mirrors contain errything published by the folx in the respective operator's .wot . and so to read e.g. adlai's www, can visit www.foomirror1.com/adlai or however arranged. )
13:30 * adlai has considered writing an oomload less blog text, until there is infrastructure - from g^h(m)%pq uptoandincluding TeX - for signing the posts, although that would probably be a little too silent.
13:30 asciilifeform i.e. simply upload .vpatch and .sig of your article, proggy, etc to ~your~ site, the others rsync and vpress when their cron jobs get around to it.
13:32 adlai there's probably an entire innumerable class of innumerant infoforcefeeders who do just this, using common household materials (tm) /s (r) !!!
13:33 adlai however, the equivalent of each such space's EM tensor actually does make it impossible to hear anything.
13:33 * adlai thus -> silence, for a while longer
~ 56 minutes ~
14:29 billymg adlai: i'd be interested to see those charts, not enough to go digging for the data myself though. several "crypto twitter influencers" already quite dedicated to chartology, seeing their charts now and then is sufficient for me
~ 1 hours 1 minutes ~
15:31 adlai reports of my prestidigitation have been greatly exaggerated, billymg ; ditto, telepathy. 'these' = which charts?
15:34 adlai s/e/o/, for precision; and s/s\?//, concision
15:35 * adlai is epsilon-likely to still have the throwaway script that produced http://qntra.net/bundles/blockchain-fees.png
15:37 adlai in case you want the shallow link, for reasons better left unspecified: http://qntra.net/2016/02/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-rises-above-163-billion/
~ 27 minutes ~
16:04 billymg adlai: a couple here, e.g. difficulty ribbon and nvt ratio are interesting
16:04 billymg adlai: glassnode has a graph which purports to track the amount of btc held by exchanges (presumably by watching addresses known/assumed to belong to exchanges)
16:06 billymg which still sits at uncomfortably high levels, even after a recent drop
16:08 billymg adlai: many more charts over at glassnode's site, but they require registration to view, and like i said, not particularly interested outside seeing the occasional chart posted on twitter
16:13 billymg ah, last link was only for bitmex's balance, here is one which says together exchanges still hold some 2.5 million coins (whether accurate or just fabricated to imply "don't bother, we have the market cornered" -- i'm not sure)
16:14 adlai bitmex supposedly experienced a run after the CFTC unsealed an indictment against its founders
16:14 billymg adlai: correct
16:14 * adlai would suggest that you ask STRML or STRML_ for comment, although according to randos in the bitmex trollbox, dude's in white collar resort prison
16:14 billymg though why > 0 belonging to investors remains on their balance sheet is beyond me
16:15 adlai eh, it's not difficult to rationalize, and the utter and complete absence of competition makes the cheap and disappointing rationalization an actual reason
16:16 billymg adlai: competition for non-kyc coin casino?
16:17 adlai multisignature protols are nontrivial; bitmex's founders actually built/commissioned a multisignature wallet for their exchange, and even caved to luser demands that they compensate for airdrops on their addresses; and they probably just didn't ever bother building further, after realizing what a cthonic horror the bitcoin virtual machine is.
16:17 adlai billymg: correct
16:17 adlai although 'casino' is an overly general word.
16:18 adlai leaving aside poker etc, there are still several different kinds of exchanges
16:18 adlai at the very minimum, anyone who intends to play those tables should be able to explain -- to themselves, to their investors, or to their children -- the difference between the bitfinex "p2p lending", and the bitmex "p2p settlement" models of leveraged trading
16:19 adlai otherwise, they might as well be playing S.DICE
16:20 adlai to lighten the mood, a joke: adlai and sipa go for a beer after a bitcoin conference; after lamenting that bitcoin is so useless that you can't even use it to buy a eulegy, adlai tells sipa,
16:21 adlai "you should probably stop treating this as a purely academic curiosity, and actually own a few bitcoins"
16:21 billymg adlai: i know nothing of the bitfinex or bitmex models of lending or leverage or anything else (also never had any desire to use). curious though, what is the difference between those two?
16:21 adlai so sipa answers, "well, I do. what about you, you must own bitcoins by now, right?"
16:21 billymg also should note: bitfinex no longer kyc-free
16:21 * adlai answers, "a few", and sipa says, gezundheit
16:22 billymg lulz
16:25 adlai meanwhile, in a cruel twist of fate, I find myself reading numbers out of a chart that I drew with fat lines for readability.
16:25 adlai yet the one kind of readability precludes the other.
16:26 * adlai wastes less time on this
16:27 adlai draft - saved; it is of a comment for that qntra article, although formatted as a post for mind:step, since bb has quite likely blackholed everything I ever post in his turf.
16:28 adlai it may not be too late to unblackhole, although, I am not a physicist.
16:30 * adlai remisses towards http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545
16:31 adlai before you accuse me of biting off more than I can chew, please bear in mind that I can't even spell endomorphism without taking off my shoes to count syllables.
16:32 * adlai prefers difficult problems and no code, whatsoever, until the program baked-in-head overflows the crests like Aphrodite
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