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03:44 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-29#1958594 - ahaha, this sounds so much ~Apoi drumeţul se întoarse acasă şi petrecu lângă ai săi, pe cari-i socoti mai cu duh decât pe cei ce văzuse în călătoria sa.
03:44 ossabot Logged on 2020-02-29 19:38:43 mp_en_viaje: eleven months and a common man's fortune expended towards the scouring of olde yurp has in the end made me quite happy to be back home.
03:44 mp_en_viaje you know ?
03:45 diana_coman sadly, I quite know, myeah
03:45 mp_en_viaje can't even put into words the "how come", it's just simply that everyone in costa rica is stupid naturally and only to the extension it can't be helped,
03:46 mp_en_viaje whereas the common yurpean is proud of how fucking dumb he's come to be.
03:46 mp_en_viaje of course the perverse part of this is that home turns out to be a tiny unknown strip of jungle 1/4 globe away from my place of birth. but then again, what can you do.
03:48 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in cititoriy intreaba, noi raspundem... do you recall where that friend of mine who lived with a dog is mentioned ?
03:48 diana_coman well, it takes hard work to get dumb, so ...proud of all the effort!
03:48 mp_en_viaje cititoriy roflmao. i've been hanging out with lanky blonde whores too long!!
03:49 diana_coman cr is unlikely to have those from what I saw.
03:51 mp_en_viaje hm ?
03:51 diana_coman hm, I recall reading the mention + there was surely something in one of your stories but no handle for search comes to mind right now.
03:51 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: the lanky blonde whores don't seem to be native to cr, lol
03:52 mp_en_viaje oh. no, ukraina. one can import anything!
03:52 mp_en_viaje the curse and also the blessing^Hcurse of the modern man.
03:52 diana_coman ahaha, all right then.
03:53 mp_en_viaje how's the coronal flu in england proud these days ? have ye sad lot seceeded from scotland yet ?
03:54 diana_coman I think that'd be too much work!
03:55 mp_en_viaje right, maybe if they do it themselves. but eventually did quit the eu ? or still "men at work, road closed" ?
03:56 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: ah, with the 1st of Feb, yes; as the silent poison said the circus is still on though.
03:57 mp_en_viaje did it do anything yet, as far as can be directly determined ?
03:57 diana_coman re flu it's all right, I'm sure there's plenty of advice and "we'll take care of it" everywhere, except I never quite bother to look and it didn't seem to make any difference
03:58 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: neah; well, it made for less interesting "pm's questions" show on wednesdays, that's about it all.
03:58 mp_en_viaje the costa ricans wanted to know whether i visited china, iran or korea in the interval. i wanted to know how they arrived at the list. they wanted to know if i don't watch the news or what's my problem.
03:58 diana_coman ahahah; I thought it was Italy the trouble now!
03:59 mp_en_viaje honestly, if they had forbidden italians travel back in say 1920, it might've saved argentina.
03:59 mp_en_viaje by now, the shit's out of the vessel.
04:02 diana_coman heh, that reminds me of a "work of art" that answered the q of why is Italy shaped like a boot: because that much shit would never fit in a shoe!
04:02 * diana_coman can't find ofc the article on own blog though I think I did write it.
04:06 diana_coman ha, found it! though the bit is in a comment, the topic fits anyway, I'd say.
04:07 * mp_en_viaje was reading old ro artyicles anyays, lessee!
04:09 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, pfoai tu ce s-o ales de ala ? vaz ca saitu' ii tat chinaspam ca al lu' alalatu' emigrat inteligent.
04:09 mp_en_viaje saracii astia...
04:10 mp_en_viaje Șapte reguli, trei zicale, ce mai zis-a unul mare, hai ca ie bine.
04:10 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: ahaha, ce vrei si tu de la 2010.
04:11 mp_en_viaje no, but i say it plainly, it's fine
04:12 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: ah, zamo? no idea, kind of drifted away and "too busy" etc so not exactly surprising.
04:13 mp_en_viaje "Filozofii Regi si Parlamentul Perfect - Also Sprach Zamolxis" how do you like them apples! gnat can't survive a decade, mouthfulla big ticket items, philosophers, kings, why the hell not.
04:13 mp_en_viaje i don't recall where's included that picture with the 12yo boy looking angry from under an abundance of spurious shaving cream, but anyways.
04:16 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, amusingly enough, if one were tasked to discuss your evolution over the past decade, it'd inescapably run something like "she moved on -- from the theoretical, to the practical". am i detaining you from the day's restatement in #o of the basic explanations re "somewhat of a superficial approximation of work" or have you already done the day's quota ?
04:18 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: ahaha, it's usually around 7pm UTC for that so no, not yet, heh.
04:18 * diana_coman thinking re theoretical to the practical.
04:18 mp_en_viaje it's going to end up a satirical piece, "diana : fetch me my arms! page, after a time : i went in the arms room and looked around, saw arms there. diana : good, now fetch. page, after another time : i lifted various over the head, and came back to tell after setting them down again. room for improvmenent : next time ima set them back down in the same places i lifted therm up from"
04:20 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: ahahah, not that far away at times, no.
04:20 mp_en_viaje "diana : just bring them here. page, after a time : here's a sketch i drew of me bringing them over."
04:21 mp_en_viaje there was a time when amelia bedelia was a funny character.
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04:55 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in other lulz, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+wear+make-up+in+a+god+honoring+way
04:55 mp_en_viaje it's a thing!
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05:29 * mp_en_viaje re-read http://trilema.com/2012/clasele-sociale-din-socialismul-contemporan/ ; remarkable how little has fucking changed.
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06:16 mp_en_viaje hanbot hey remember http://trilema.com/2013/since-theres-no-end-of-these-unidentified-pointless-objects/ ? :D
06:28 mp_en_viaje and speaking of http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#fn3-5091 what's trinque up to these days ?!
06:29 mp_en_viaje why all the spurts, man ?
06:36 mp_en_viaje http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema-hanbot/2020-02-17#1001392 << you can't be serious ?! how's about say cat ? | grep http | sed 's/http/\nhttp/g' | grep ^http | sed 's/\(^http[^ <]*\)\(.*\)/\1/g'
06:36 ossabot (trilema-hanbot) 2020-02-17 BingoBoingo: hanbot_abroad diana_coman: The problem of identifying an article url on a blog url without importing python or something else heavy has me stumped, so I've been reconsidering the possibility of blasting out a crawl over serveral degrees. The flow filewise would be something like 'churn' to 'churndomains' to 'churn2' to 'churndomains2' and so on out to the ending on a list of all the urls scraped in the third or four
06:36 mp_en_viaje or do you mean something else ?
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08:50 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-149
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09:12 trinque mp_en_viaje: I'm around, been turning a meager win into a sustainable machine.
09:12 trinque diana_coman: I'm happy to "fix my quoting". Who is the source of truth for mpwp?
09:12 trinque if there isn't currently an answer, I'll host the patches.
09:12 trinque I don't have w/e patch improves the quoting mechanism apparently
09:14 * trinque recently fixed his theme and sidebar, so hopefully it's otherwise in a somewhat more useful state
09:14 mp_en_viaje trinque, cool. so... line1, basically the linux discussion on yoru blog is tabled till q2 ? till 2021 ? something in between ? line 2. we gonna read the story of that win and turning or is it likely to have to be sikrit ?
09:14 mp_en_viaje line 3, you coming to costa rica ?
09:15 diana_coman trinque: billymg works on mpwp and hosts the full tree afaik.
09:16 diana_coman trinque: but I am not sure I follow what you say there - what do you mean by quoting? the select?
09:17 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, i suspect billymg 's thing might not actually include http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/#comment-132249
09:18 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: if trinque means indeed that aka the selection mechanism,that is anyway not going to be in the tree since it requires a change to the *theme*'s file, no?
09:18 trinque not tabled, and I apologize for the delay. I think it needs about one more post, and then there'll be a whole item described. I've been digging into that this weekend, ought to be able to squeeze it out today or tomorrow.
09:19 trinque re: CR, is there a meeting planned, or is this an open ended question?
09:20 trinque diana_coman: could perhaps include it as a util you can pull into your theme or not
09:20 trinque I've also done some spelunking in the php myself, and there might be other ways to pull it in aside theme, if I can see the patch
09:20 trinque there's a get_header func or something, could come in via that.
09:21 * trinque brb, coffee
09:22 diana_coman trinque: the ref for the select mechanism is mp_en_viaje's link above aka the article on trilema really; not a vpatch as such afaik.
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10:06 mp_en_viaje trinque, rather open ended
10:06 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, yes.
10:08 mp_en_viaje the whole "theme" thing is iffy, and part and parcel of why this particular tree (mp-wp) is so deeply misbehaving is that it rests upon a large pile of intricate design errors and failures.
10:09 mp_en_viaje i practically have the choice of either publishing a screamingly offensive non-patch in november of 2019, or else wait until there's a place to meaningfully add it as a patch ; which necessarily is stalled on "what the fuck is the correct cut for themes, cuz it seems evident it isn't what's now done", which in turn rests on a half dozen or so more nodes that are all further away from what is actually being worked now.
10:12 mp_en_viaje in my mind the ideal theme would be a config file, not the current pile of actually executable files wth theme is that. columns = 2; main = left ; main = 2/3; is a theme.
10:12 mp_en_viaje such that someone could try out a theme without having to ~read code~ or worry that who knows what rm -rf is in there
10:14 mp_en_viaje but i see no hope of working all of this out besides taking it by steps and degrees.
10:16 mp_en_viaje then if people don't use the proper linking thing and the dysfunctional js one becomes too entrenched we'll be stuck with it forever and so on and so forth.
10:18 mp_en_viaje trinque, billymg and iirc whaack are here on a more or less permanent basis, so something could most likely be organized, too.
10:18 mp_en_viaje speaking of which, where in cr are you whaack ? i dun remember
10:20 mp_en_viaje dorion, jfw bvt lobbes spyked & other interested parties -- you wanna make something of it ?
10:21 mp_en_viaje i know how to get excellent veuve clicquot & such, etc
10:22 mp_en_viaje iirc diana_coman liked it here last year
10:22 * mp_en_viaje goes to dig for pix
10:22 mp_en_viaje http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/04/pura-vida-like-no-other/ there we go
10:26 * diana_coman realises she did not take a pic of the steak!
10:27 diana_coman hah, it's 2 years ago already, what last year.
10:30 mp_en_viaje well, ok, 16 months. you coming back ?
10:32 mp_en_viaje the idea of the dead reckoning bus seating is fabulous. "hello sir, your seat is three steps left from greeting stewardess, two steps right after that"
10:38 diana_coman I honestly have no idea; I did obtain finally all the possible passports though so at least I *can* go anywhere.
10:39 billymg http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958703 << i have a strong feeling the reason it's *not* this, and the reason the mp-wp genesis is 7x the size of trb genesis by LOC, is because it was designed by the "no one user matters more than another" crowd
10:39 ossabot Logged on 2020-03-01 11:28:37 mp_en_viaje: in my mind the ideal theme would be a config file, not the current pile of actually executable files wth theme is that. columns = 2; main = left ; main = 2/3; is a theme.
10:39 ossabot Logged on 2020-02-18 19:29:06 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: to my mind the "no one user matters more than another" means of course "no user matters at all" ; because it follows by necessity.
10:40 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, well, the problem with anywhere not-here is that the summers do get too hot and the winters too cold. i intend to travel maybe to brazil may-ish, but otherwise i expect i'll be mostly around, so if you feel like it...
10:40 mp_en_viaje billymg, quite possible indeed.
10:42 billymg as for vpatching the server side select mechanism, since mp-wp ships with two base themes a patch could at least be made to include the select mechanism in those. seeing as how most people copy/paste one of the included theme directories to customize/create their own
10:42 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: noted.
10:43 billymg at least as an interim until proper theming in mp-wp is solved, just so the correct select mechanism is at least included in the package on first press
10:43 mp_en_viaje billymg, i think that'd be the salutary thing ; that wayy it'll at least carry over passively through edits
10:44 mp_en_viaje mind though that you include the whole shebang, the reason i linked to that comment rather than the article plainly is that the ~correct~ auto-select stubs on pingback were only introduced there
10:45 billymg mp_en_viaje: got it, makes sense
10:46 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, i hope it doesn't come across as any kind of disinterest or noninviting. i very much would like to do more steaks, but i don't want to produce an obligation.
10:47 mp_en_viaje billymg, with it, one gets the great advantage that pingbacks to his blog also link to the correct place in the article, which imo is big.
10:53 billymg mp_en_viaje: agree. ugh, yeah, i've really been meaning to publish a roadmap for mp-wp that others can comment on
10:53 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: thank you and no worries at all; I hope I didn't come across as not wanting to visit either, it's more the 12+ hours travel one way that gives me pause.
10:53 billymg i'll do that this week
10:54 billymg (the roadmap article that is)
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11:26 diana_coman bvt: I'll have to check closer what's going wrong with the script on my machine as there seems to be some weird going on, possibly at output rather than anything deeper.
11:26 BingoBoingo mp_en_viaje: Thank you. I've been making progress fitting more of the tools in my hand and building with them. diana_coman is working me on how to plan, re-examining my relationship with time and how I budget it, and grounding myself in practicality. I've surrendered to diana_coman's mastery and the breaches in my head aren't completely closed yet, but I'm surrendered and working her program.
11:26 diana_coman the above is re the v.sh script .
11:34 bvt ty. if you gzip the work directory and publish it somewhere i'll look into it as well. i also took a stab at indented flow output (http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-150)
11:34 bvt mp_en_viaje: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#comment-7669
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12:07 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, i just did it, so yeah. fly avianca though, via colombia, leaving either spain or germany. easily the best airline over the atlantic today.
12:07 mp_en_viaje BingoBoingo, a aite then.
12:09 mp_en_viaje bvt, aha, worx
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13:20 mp_en_viaje "On the more positive side, based on what he has told us, he made a career from designing and implementing HFT systems for a wide range of fiat exchanges and instruments. He told us at one point he was paying $20k/month for leased lines." << from experience, none of these claims are ever true. [http://trilema.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit/?b=roughly%20Di&e=equivalent#select][people just say thi
13:20 mp_en_viaje ngs].
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15:01 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/01/martisor/ << Ossa Sepia -- Martisor
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15:38 feedbot http://qntra.net/2020/03/qntra-s-qntr-february-2020-report/ << Qntra -- Qntra (S.QNTR) February 2020 Report
15:49 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-152
16:03 diana_coman bvt: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#comment-7673
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17:55 trinque mp_en_viaje: I might be able to travel in summer, don't mind the mugginess as long as there's beach.
17:56 trinque billymg: what did you think of my proposal to suck the quoter up into the get_header func?
17:56 trinque if the problem with wp is that it was designed "for everybody", putting improvements in an optional codepath (themes) seems exactly the wrong thing.
18:04 billymg trinque: i haven't looked closely enough at it yet to say but i will check out get_header and see if i can get it working that way. ty for the lead on that
18:05 billymg trinque: also, hey, i've got about a week left here in austin. if you're not too busy let me know if you'd be up for a drink or some steaks
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21:02 feedbot http://qntra.net/2020/03/cisco-lays-off-and-pivots-while-huawei-grows/ << Qntra -- Cisco Lays Off And Pivots While Huawei Grows
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22:36 feedbot http://qntra.net/2020/03/bitstamp-plays-with-novelty-segwit-only-bech32-addresses/ << Qntra -- Bitstamp Plays With Novelty Segwit Only Bech32 Addresses
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