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16:37 dorion mircea_popescu in light of never moving off linux 2.x series, it seems to me bvt ought to port his rng work from 4.9.95 it currently sits on to 2.x.
16:37 dorion perhaps it's not an immediate priority, but I'd like to clarify the path forward.
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17:23 dorion !!seen ave1
17:23 deedbot 2019/11/18 15:31:56 <ave1> spyked, lobbes. Thx!
17:29 dorion ave1 do you actually want to own gcc ? or do we need to move on ? ~60 days silence, with unanswered intermittent probings seems to indicate the latter, unfortunately.
17:29 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-17 12:40:02 ave1: As to ownership, I can own gcc 4.9 and would like to work with trinque et. al. on this. The problem here is limited time, so my primary input can be information/communication at this point.
17:29 ossabot Logged on 2019-12-09 16:35:17 dorion_road: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-27#1953688 << hey ave1, how goes ? have you been following along the tmsr os thread ? I've assumed you want to continue with your gcc work and own it, is that still the case ?
17:29 ericbot Logged on 2019-11-27 18:40:49 dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-17#1951499 << hey ave1, how goes ? has there been a delivery date set on this ?
17:29 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-17 12:42:50 ave1: I was genesing it, and will continue to do so. But with feedback in the loop. So, for example, gcc comes with an old STL html documentation tree, can this be dropped? (I would say yes)
17:36 mircea_popescu http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-12#1956783 << well, or at the very least comment on it.
17:36 ossabot Logged on 2020-01-12 12:47:24 dorion: mircea_popescu in light of never moving off linux 2.x series, it seems to me bvt ought to port his rng work from 4.9.95 it currently sits on to 2.x.
17:46 dorion mircea_popescu comment on major/important changes between linux 2.x and 4.9.95 ?
17:47 mircea_popescu you're not serious, are you ?
17:48 mircea_popescu between 2.4 and 2.6 the principal change is how kernel modules get loaded (they were actually linked pre 2.6).
17:49 mircea_popescu between 2 and 4 the difference simply is "2 was a linux kernel, 4 is treasonable atrocity built atop 3, which is how you say '''mike hearn''' in linux"
17:52 mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a390b4b428edb39f3d7f6fcd66aa2d05.png << this timeline might help your visual style i guess.
17:52 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Qntra's "hold if comment contains X or more links" filter has been lifted to arbitrarily high number so these gems stop getting held in the moderation line.
17:52 dorion mircea_popescu re seriousness, I know it'd be a helluva lot, but I don't imagine porting his work from 4.9.95 to 2.x isn't trivial either. I should've asked, comment how ?
17:53 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, i confess i am vaguely concerned by this for myself ; apparently i can't sit down to write anything even half-serious without dozen+ references by now.
17:53 mircea_popescu dorion, of course it's trivial, he doesn't use any of the pestilent doohickeys. he could port it to most 1series also.
17:53 mircea_popescu this is in no small part due to how alf thinks, he's remarkably exceptional at this side of things.
17:55 dorion mircea_popescu I see, nice. today I learned.
17:57 bvt mircea_popescu: moving to 2.6 kernel will be interesting experience wrt. newer hardware. 2.6.32 was one of the better-patched ones, could try to use that. otoh, the machine i am writing from requires 2.6.38 minimum for full hardware.
17:58 bvt *full hardware support
18:01 bvt porting rng to 2.6 kernel should indeed be not too hard, the only thing i may need adaptation is kfifo api (iirc it's api changed at some point, which may break the code)
18:01 dorion bvt wrt to newer hardware, did you see get a dozen or two alternatives, let the rest wither ?
18:03 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I am inclined to attribute this in part to your use of technology to dive into what seems to be historically uncharted territory as far as extreme literacy goes.
18:09 bvt dorion: in this case, picking 2.6 will not be a problem, of course
18:14 mircea_popescu bvt, i dunno man, commodity servers to this day come on 2.6, random sample turned out 100%
18:14 mircea_popescu unless by newer hardware you mean who knows what random home luser dongle.
18:17 mircea_popescu but the cost to replace that is minimal, i mean... oh, so your video card doesn't work no mo ? awww, splurge on 50 bux, which as per latest j-lo self-promotion 1hr long advertisement incomprehensibly packaged as "a movie" ain't even enough to START the moneycount.
18:18 mircea_popescu skip trying to buy a coupla shots for whatever rando hobag at the club next time, get yourself a working peripheral [see all the hobags in history naked-er and working it more excitedly anyways].
18:19 mircea_popescu it's not clear to me how i'd actually go about computing the value-add of supporting whatever config isn't self-supporting ; but it seems indisputable it's under the cost of five second's labour. making the matter not even work considering, let alone discussing.
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18:38 dorion trinque html stripped from comment again, here's original : http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=3p4J
18:48 mircea_popescu http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-01-12#1956798 << just the simple string "lts" makes my skin crawl
18:48 ossabot Logged on 2020-01-12 14:02:44 mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/a390b4b428edb39f3d7f6fcd66aa2d05.png << this timeline might help your visual style i guess.
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