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09:59 mircea_popescu dorion, you know, your article skips over the most interesting parts. i can sorta-kinda fill in a sentence like "The bank prevented us from dealing directly with clients in our country of residence 2 as the brokers were never required to obtain any sort of securities license." thus curing it into standing ; but i suspect i might be the ~only one.
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13:28 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951120 - currently I would go with the e5-2620; not only on larger ram & more threads aspect but also because looking at what is available otherwise, it seems to me that this at least hits on the "widely available" even more than the e3, esp in the longer term; fwiw yest I looked at what servers I could source here as well and sourcing AMDs seems to be mainly an American thing.
13:28 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-13 06:26:15 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, so listen, e3-1241 or e5-2620 x2 ?
13:28 mircea_popescu diana_coman, did the whatever you were trying locally die ?
13:28 diana_coman I just came back from the dc visit too; on the plus side, they are still small enough to be able to get to know them and they seem reasonably interested/able to actually have a conversation;
13:29 diana_coman on the negative side, they are totally married to 1. their account-on-website system because, quote "I've built the business around this"
13:29 diana_coman 2. payment in gbp and invoicing with all their bells and whistles
13:29 mircea_popescu mkay.
13:29 diana_coman essentially I'd need to fully interface there
13:29 mircea_popescu stupid thing to "build a business around", but w/e.
13:30 mircea_popescu when i say "the great success of lamp", i mean things quite like ^
13:31 diana_coman mircea_popescu: myeah but what can I say; fwiw I didn't hold much back eg directly told him that ahem, I can see how it's "convenient" for them but that sort of convenience has a cost and moreover it's totally inconvenient for me.
13:31 diana_coman where "me" by that stage was clearly not just me personally.
13:31 mircea_popescu aite. i'm a get the e5 then
13:31 diana_coman anyways; I have pics and I'll still write up the whole thing.
13:33 diana_coman other than that the dc itself & tech side, it all looked quite good really; a rather pleasant thing to see all things in their place and ordered and properly provisioned and all that; but myeah.
13:36 mircea_popescu aha
13:48 diana_coman http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951170 - I certainly couldn't fill that in and it did precisely pop up while reading, precisely this sentence; I suspect dorion needs more practice defining some manageable scope & focus for one article.
13:48 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-14 06:05:06 mircea_popescu: dorion, you know, your article skips over the most interesting parts. i can sorta-kinda fill in a sentence like "The bank prevented us from dealing directly with clients in our country of residence 2 as the brokers were never required to obtain any sort of securities license." thus curing it into standing ; but i suspect i might be the ~only one.
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15:42 mircea_popescu lobbes, upon deliberation, i really dun wanna get us-sider servers, fuck tghat dumb shit.
15:42 mircea_popescu sorry for the confounding.
15:43 mircea_popescu wouldja be willing to find something else ?
15:48 dorion http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951170 << thanks for the feedback, and I wholeheartedly agree with this point. the initial articles I've set myself with have tended to be: go eat this elephant in one sitting with dull utensils. I end up swallowing chunks whole making digestion more expensive. I'll see what I can do to
15:48 dorion circle back on that article to drill down on the more interesting points in subsequent pieces, and for sure work to limit scope moving forward.
15:48 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-14 06:05:06 mircea_popescu: dorion, you know, your article skips over the most interesting parts. i can sorta-kinda fill in a sentence like "The bank prevented us from dealing directly with clients in our country of residence 2 as the brokers were never required to obtain any sort of securities license." thus curing it into standing ; but i suspect i might be the ~only one.
15:48 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-14 09:54:03 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951170 - I certainly couldn't fill that in and it did precisely pop up while reading, precisely this sentence; I suspect dorion needs more practice defining some manageable scope & focus for one article.
15:50 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/of-tits-and-masks-and-other-things/ << Trilema -- Of tits, and masks, and other things
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18:16 feedbot http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3557 << Loper OS -- Rack Service Launch.
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18:52 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/11/netherland-halting-economic-activity-on-multiple-fronts-over-nitrogen-emissions-crisis/ << Qntra -- Netherlands Halting Economic Activity On Multiple Fronts Over "Nitrogen Emissions Crisis"
18:57 mircea_popescu pretty lulzy. "civilised world" amirite, except for the part where nobody needs them for anything.
18:58 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, "As documented on this blog, undertaking the remains of Pizarro has continued, as documented on this blog."
18:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty, fxd
19:01 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I imagine this holds for most of Northwest Europe. "Nobody in particular needs us, but we think we are far enough ahead to have an advantage if we can talk everyone else into stopping with us"
19:01 mircea_popescu well, the first part for sure. for all the "not racist" blather, the euro-africans literally think there's some magic in the string "netherlands" that prevents it outright from simply being zamibia.
19:02 mircea_popescu there's no such thing ; subsaharan africa === western europe today. pretense notwithstanding (spoiler : exactly equal amts of pretense on BOTH camps)
19:04 BingoBoingo I imagine their engineers in government imagine that being more Zamibia will let them carry their socialism further on stored energy. "Cheaper!!!" Nevermind Uruguay, Argentina, and Scandanavia demonstrating the opposite.
19:04 mircea_popescu reality doesn't matter if you don't agree to it.
19:05 BingoBoingo Who needs the big picture when you can hide in some details?
19:16 feedbot http://ossasepia.com/2019/11/14/amito-data-centre-in-reading-uk/ << Ossa Sepia -- Amito Data Centre in Reading (UK)
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19:32 mircea_popescu diana_coman, you know it's peek not peak
19:34 diana_coman right.
19:34 diana_coman I ...know it; still mess it up repeatedly, grrr.
19:34 mircea_popescu lol
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20:06 mircea_popescu in other news, i'm considering getting an upgrade for mp-wp, wherein comments marked as spam are displayed for as long as the ip they were made from is loading the page
20:07 mircea_popescu the drawback is that most spam ops use diff boxes for harvesting and posting, sadly.
20:09 BingoBoingo Seems like it may catch more simple retards than organized spammers.
20:10 mircea_popescu sadly.
20:13 mircea_popescu on some level, the obviousness of "why should i be forced to decide either all or none" grates. false dilemma. but on the other end, the practicalities of "alright... distinguish then" are insurmountable.
20:14 mircea_popescu then the bootstrapping problem. "suppose you let the wot work it, make trilema be gossipd, people can see the comments of people they talk to"
20:14 mircea_popescu well... so how do they meet then
20:14 * BingoBoingo also unsure about encouraging the simple retard flavor of spammer by making it seem like what they does is working.
20:14 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, why not ? idiots ~should~ waste themselves, it's the only point of nature.
20:14 mircea_popescu that's what pretty much everything existing is all about : making idiots think idiocy works.
20:15 mircea_popescu highly successful at it, too. in fact, the one key feature of any reality simulation. "does your terrarium make idiots think their idiocy works ?" pass/fail.
20:16 BingoBoingo Point taken. Toxoplasmosis keeps reinventing itself for reasons
20:16 ossabot Logged on 2019-11-11 13:22:52 BingoBoingo: It's almost what toxoplasmosis tries to do to rats except... entirely self inflicted
20:17 mircea_popescu in the end, the tragedy of human existence is that everyone gets exactly what they thought they wanted.
20:17 diana_coman eh, if you can make idiots *think*, it's already something.
20:17 mircea_popescu lol
20:18 mircea_popescu constructive "think", "actively misrepresent"
20:23 diana_coman I suppose I'd call it along the lines of "give them hope it works"; because it's also quite the only way it can work given the other side of "make idiocy cost more" - for as long as there is hope, the cost will be happily paid.
20:23 mircea_popescu in the end, the doom of self-expression as a ~default~ activity, occuring ~in the absence of understanding~ ; and the power of understanding dervied thereby, to actually inhibit action very much stands as the exact definition of the tragedy of human condition. a trite point, at that.
20:23 mircea_popescu diana_coman, remember dr a's point, "pay idiots in lottery tickets" ?
20:23 diana_coman I thought that was the comedy! lolz
20:24 diana_coman ahahha, I don't recall it but it does fit his utterings as I got to read them otherwise, for sure.
20:24 mircea_popescu lemme fish it out
20:24 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/romanii-si-munca/#comment-6410
20:24 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/dac-as-fi-io-sef/#comment-7147 rappel
20:25 diana_coman come to think of it, I guess that's the root cause of my despising hope really.
20:29 mircea_popescu hope you can believe in!
20:31 diana_coman lol
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21:42 mircea_popescu in other news : there's this dude [www.pornhub.com/model/sleepy_b][sleepy_b] uploading extremely well rendered video to pronsites. he happens to be from uy. is there any chance in hell BingoBoingo might spot him somehows ?
21:44 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Want me to try to get him into #eulora or land him somewhere else?
21:45 mircea_popescu #eulora'd work well
21:45 BingoBoingo Aite, I'll try to make contact, get him a steak or choripan, and try to put him on the IRC.
21:45 mircea_popescu eat well, it's on me.
21:46 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Some of the locals have weird, counter-quality tastes.
21:47 * BingoBoingo will absolutely not be taking anyone, self included to MVD's only fried chicken joint
21:47 mircea_popescu lol
21:50 BingoBoingo It... it's disgusting in ways the US trough style eateries have trouble matching. I suspect it spoiled this entire country on the idea of frying chicken.
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22:26 feedbot http://bvt-trace.net/2019/11/benchmarking-hashes-for-fg-fed-linux/ << bvt's backtrace -- Benchmarking hashes for FG-fed Linux
22:28 BingoBoingo In local "memes" summarizing last night's presidential debate http://archive.is/M3Qgh
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23:41 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2019/11/frankfurt-linz/ << Bimbo Club -- Frankfurt-Linz
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