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01:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, so do you have power now ?
01:49 mircea_popescu in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917374 obscura : apparently the "just as good" (spoiler : not very good) replacement is something called "paxum". also the hardcore wannabes / rape victims gathered around "ethereum" made a localethers something or the other clone, of course.
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01:49 a111 Logged on 2019-06-05 22:05 Mocky: localbitcoins decides to turn away all their remaining legitimate users in. RIP LBC http://archive.is/kfpKC
01:52 mircea_popescu (ethereum people are really 100% about bitcoin, kinda like how us-based, nominally "protestant" supposedly independent "churches" are 100% about catholicism ; or us-based "nigger hating" / "taking down the zog machine jew by jew by jew" "white power" groups are 100% about please fuck my wife now, she's ovulating. it's the us thing, don't ask me to explain it.)
01:52 mircea_popescu i guess #metoo actually says it all.
02:05 mircea_popescu !!v 0BEF5A558D705BA88015F05C00F9C0EC9AE558BBB0046AB8AA9B1301F07DA922
02:05 deedbot mircea_popescu paid BingoBoingo invoice 14
02:06 mircea_popescu trinque, hey, were you gonna do something about that count so it's not lifetime but "currently active" ? or where was the discussion left at
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02:53 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I have power, Uruguay in general has power, rack appears to have never lost power.
02:54 BingoBoingo I was without power for a few hours.
02:56 BingoBoingo Within 8 hours, most of Uruguay had power restored. Apparently across the river that was not the case
03:05 mircea_popescu alrighty then!
03:09 BingoBoingo What is more dificult to discern is whether Argentina is restoring their power and how quickly
03:09 mircea_popescu fuck 'em
03:10 mircea_popescu there's absolutely nothing argentina needs power FOR
03:10 mircea_popescu electric power or any other kind of power.
03:10 BingoBoingo Especially not since their are importing luz to run resistive heaters that don't do SHA-256
03:10 mircea_popescu they can do whatever it is they do without. without power, without anything else. in fact -- they could do whatever it is they do just as well without existing at all.
03:10 mircea_popescu hopefully next june.
03:11 * mircea_popescu genuinely hopes argentina altogether fucking ends, both in aggregate and in all individual components.
03:12 mircea_popescu should never have been permitted to exist in the first place, unseemly fucking abscess on the butt of the world.
03:12 BingoBoingo Not unprobably. Whatever Argentina's bureacrats do by candelight tomorrow is probably going to piss off both rotary-guays
03:14 BingoBoingo If Argentina's fuckery took Paraguay's dam out of sync and damaged anything there aren't enough turkeys over there to resolve that tort
03:15 BingoBoingo 1860s all over again except triple alliance is Brazil and the two guays against Deptitina
03:15 mircea_popescu yeah, the more modern, mroe efficient dam gear squeezes that extra % at the cost of all sorts of intolerances. you can't run a dam on no load
03:17 BingoBoingo Deeper investigation after the Qntra on the subject turned up the interconnect station that shat the bed was taking input from the Salto Grande Uruguay and Argentina share the frame of in addition to the big Paraguay dam
03:21 BingoBoingo Anyways, Argentine fuckery opened all sorts of torts
03:21 mircea_popescu too bad slavery's no longer the default resolution of tort.
03:23 BingoBoingo Anyways the Uruguayos did demonstrate they are not as fucked as the Argentines by at least an order of magnitude, maybe two or three will be demonstrated by July first
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04:33 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, "short windows of time"
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06:26 mircea_popescu in light of the marked tendency of your last dozen or so articles, is it the case you're sorta training in the corner for a trishophood ?
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07:45 mircea_popescu meanwhile in #harem news, tangle (tm) wrist-bound but otherwise nude raver girlies make for a pretty... well, interior decoration, how shall we put this.
07:59 diana_coman the church of Bingo Boingo doesn't even sound bad at all
07:59 mircea_popescu lol
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11:36 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty, fixed. trishophood would be some ways out. The last dozen few month's blog posts are mostly thought and note organization.
11:37 BingoBoingo Throwing out how the world appears to work as I understand it for the readers because I have the good fortune of having good reader who can rattle me closer to correctness if I am too far off
11:39 BingoBoingo Anyways, punchline of the last one is that the worst sites in the US aren't on the list because USG.MIL
11:41 BingoBoingo Follow up with some less headlined but egregious USG sites will probably be baked in a couple months.
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13:15 hanbot http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-17#1918429 << paxum pulled plug on btc in 2012, comes with AML verification for setup, etfc.
13:15 a111 Logged on 2019-06-17 05:49 mircea_popescu: in other http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-05#1917374 obscura : apparently the "just as good" (spoiler : not very good) replacement is something called "paxum". also the hardcore wannabes / rape victims gathered around "ethereum" made a localethers something or the other clone, of course.
13:19 mircea_popescu hanbot, really ? they were making a big deal about trying to benefit from localbitcoin closure
13:19 asciilifeform hanbot: i suspect that the entire idea of centralized bulletin board for 'buy & sell coin' is as intrinsically usgistic as that of a gox (i.e. centralized coin/fiat exchange). it makes for an irresistible target, and is why all to date eventually were killed & replaced w/ honeypot taxidermy of self
13:20 mircea_popescu is this a different paxum maybe ?
13:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, all markets are centralized. how else would it work ?
13:20 mircea_popescu market is, definitionally, where demand and supply ~come together~
13:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu himself had a piece re 'silk road' where 'some markets dun belong centralized, even if this makes for 9000x headache for user'
13:21 mircea_popescu i suspect equivocation on 'Centralized"
13:22 asciilifeform prolly worth expanding on subj
13:23 asciilifeform imho there's nuffin wrong with a board where folx post 'will buy', 'will sell', etc. problem starts when board operator purports to substitute own hands for users' correct use of wot
13:24 asciilifeform as, e.g., 'sr', 'localbitcoins', 'ebay', all do
13:25 asciilifeform that was the meaning of 'centralized' contemplated by asciilifeform
13:25 mircea_popescu but ~that board~ is centralzied
13:26 mircea_popescu and now ~that board~ is a readily available avenue of attack for the sort of morons who are threatened by naked women, slavery, nigger inferiority, what have you. as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/
13:27 asciilifeform only in the sense that e.g. a concrete, particular electron is 'centralized'. but it is readily idempotent with other electrons. and simple board that does 0 moderation or faux-wotism is similarly idempotent.
13:27 mircea_popescu obviously "nothing happens", until one day, when suddenly linus posts on his myspace page about how he's turned off a portion of github or w/e.
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13:27 mircea_popescu this is nonsense. "idempotent" my foot. if it has a domain name, it has a domain name. if it has an ip instead, has an ip. if it uses a dns round robin, now there's the dns.
13:27 mircea_popescu WHATEVER IT IS, you can only have a market if you control the city.
13:28 asciilifeform so per mircea_popescu's model, problem of 'btc bazar' is 'uci-complete' ?
13:28 mircea_popescu yep.
13:29 hanbot mircea_popescu, zero mention of btc anywhere on paxum.com. there's pax*ful*, i guess. for some reason lists market price at a 9% discount, iono what kind of "market" it can be.
13:29 asciilifeform i'm not 100% sold, but haven't with what to seriously disagree, so will buy
13:29 mircea_popescu hanbot, paxful, you're right.
13:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, consider the ~other~ problem of market.
13:30 mircea_popescu definitionally, market is ~no barrier to entry~. if you have to buy a ticket to get in, it's no longer a market, it's a disco club.
13:30 mircea_popescu whatever, burlesque show.
13:31 asciilifeform as described in ye olde mpex thread aha
13:31 asciilifeform or hm, possibly was somewhere else
13:32 asciilifeform dunno re 'not market' tho, plenty of market require substantial ticket to get in (very same mpex, or the old nasdaq et al etc)
13:32 mircea_popescu i guess so ?
13:33 * hanbot wonders what quantity of busypaperwork/waiting in line/befriending idiot doorkeepers suffices as standing for "paying for ticket"
13:34 mircea_popescu any.
13:34 hanbot lol show me a market sometime, i'd love to see it! :D
13:34 mircea_popescu we're working on it.
13:35 asciilifeform i dunno where exists this frictionless horse, the market with no entry cost. at the very least one needs working legs (or , in mechanized market, a working comp & net pipe ) neh
13:35 mircea_popescu and don't you dare mention how it's slow.
13:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, perfect money, like perfect markets, like perfect health and ideal love, are not of this world.
13:36 asciilifeform this is tru, i dun have a perfect circle on my desk either
13:36 mircea_popescu yet that perfect cifcle you don't have informs a lot more of your daily activity than whatever else.
13:36 asciilifeform entirely correct
13:37 asciilifeform arguably summarizes what higher nervous system is even ~for~
13:38 mircea_popescu right.
13:40 asciilifeform ftr asciilifeform is satisfied that the only final pill against http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-17#1918482 is 'gossip' net, approx. as pictured in mircea_popescu's piece & accomp. thrds.
13:40 a111 Logged on 2019-06-17 17:27 mircea_popescu: obviously "nothing happens", until one day, when suddenly linus posts on his myspace page about how he's turned off a portion of github or w/e.
13:40 mircea_popescu right.
13:40 mircea_popescu i don't come up with this shit because i have a very peculiar sense of humour, or for some sort of art project, or because i'm fucking bored some evening.
13:41 mircea_popescu i'm just sitting around all day wondering why nobody can have any good shit. why ~EXACTLY~.
13:42 asciilifeform it's an actual problem, and incidentally was quite obv. even prior, in ye olde warez-apocalypse days. simply happens that all the would-be 'solvers' gabriel_laddelized their 'solutions'
13:42 asciilifeform and ended up with 'tor' & co.
13:42 mircea_popescu indeed it was ; and so it did ; and woe and sadness upon the half men riding their half-measured rabbits to battle.
13:44 asciilifeform there's a lengthy rogue's gallery of these laddelizations, 'freenet', 'gnunet', etc
13:44 asciilifeform iirc we had entomolo-thrd re subj
13:49 asciilifeform e.g.
13:49 a111 Logged on 2017-12-05 17:15 asciilifeform: and 'Ian Clarke is the founder and coordinator of the Freenet Project...' << single-handed judas goat and jailer of who knows how many idjits who thought they were 'communicating seekoorely'
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14:57 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/06/cloudflare-shitgnomes-hyping-randomness-beacons/ << Qntra -- Cloudflare Shitgnomes Hyping "Randomness Beacons"
14:57 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: s/Hygenic/Hygienic
14:58 BingoBoingo ty, fxd
15:06 asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2019/06/cloudflare-shitgnomes-hyping-randomness-beacons/#comment-130694 ftr.
15:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ty, I new I missed a lulzy linkable
15:11 asciilifeform ftr i have nuffin against public rng per se, one of which i used to good effect, albeit naturally not for crypto, in early 2000s
15:11 a111 Logged on 2018-10-12 17:36 asciilifeform: ( my sim -- converged!11 -- when i fed it... don lancaster's geiger rng tarball. )
15:12 asciilifeform pretty obv what the current crop's motivation is, tho.
15:13 mircea_popescu usg.apple, aka not-apple. usg.*, === not-*
15:17 asciilifeform hm?
15:18 mircea_popescu the current crop's motivation.
15:21 asciilifeform incidentally imho for almost any non-crypto application like the above, the FG 1GB demo turd would prolly suffice with plenty left over
15:22 asciilifeform ( lancaster's, that i ate , was considerably smaller, iirc no moar than 200MB , and did not need anyffin like all of it . )
15:23 asciilifeform see also e.g.
15:23 a111 Logged on 2014-08-27 02:03 asciilifeform: bats_cd03: 'random' means one thing if you're running 'monte carlo' sims (digits of 'pi' work beautifully, as does 'A Million Random Digits with 100,000 Normal Deviates' (rand corp, 1955. book.))
15:25 * asciilifeform always found it interesting that e.g. evolved nn sim, and many other related problems, work pretty well as distinguishing litmus for prngism vs trng
15:27 asciilifeform 'naked eye' fooled by 'looks random!111', whereas process that actually gotta walk the solution space uniformly -- not.
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16:30 mircea_popescu myeah.
16:40 BingoBoingo Numerals aren't always the best way to view certain qualities of numbers
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18:06 asciilifeform '[global notice] Hi all. We'll be restarting services in 5 minutes' << what btw happened to the 'migrate from fleanode' proj ?
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19:03 mircea_popescu it died where engineers had to talk to people.
19:04 asciilifeform meanwhile, in heathen lulz: Linux >= 2.6.29... ... A sequence of SACKs may be crafted such that one can trigger an integer overflow, leading to a kernel panic i.e. 'packet'o'death'.
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19:04 mircea_popescu entirely 0 human beings available, if counting by the criteria of "capable of getting a ircd federated by ANY other network"
19:04 mircea_popescu and no, i am not AT ALL happy about it. quite the opposite, in fact.
19:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: did nobody answer the req ? or not even got as far as anyone asking
19:05 mircea_popescu you were here, weren't you ?
19:05 mircea_popescu it dweebed away once it became clear it's one of those things with talking to girls in them.
19:05 asciilifeform looked in log, and not found any report of the askers
19:06 asciilifeform i'ma have to do this chore aint i. on top of errything.
19:06 mircea_popescu i guess the logical summation of this would be that we all sit down and make a pact
19:06 mircea_popescu that we'll get laid before highschool is out
19:06 mircea_popescu this is how these films usually start.
19:06 asciilifeform lol
19:06 mircea_popescu we'll call it RETARD PIE 3!
19:09 * asciilifeform believe or not, did not see the film in q
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