#trilema | 2019-05-23

02:10

asciilifeform, that;s nonsense. huawei currnently owns the "smart"phone market. it's their own phone, it's better than the reich phone, etc.

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02:12

mp_en_viaje

just because ~not reported~ by ustards means jack. ~exact same situation as ICBC, which is only mentioned re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612073 but which in fact http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-05#703768

02:12

a111

Logged on 2017-02-07 04:38 mircea_popescu: "Examples of existing business arrangements that constitute violations of the foreign-emoluments clause include: Chinas state-owned Industrial and Commercial Bank of China is the largest tenant in Trump Tower, and the state-owned Bank of China is a major lender to Trump."

02:12

a111

Logged on 2014-06-05 12:19 mircea_popescu: the icbc is quite present here, to the point they do consumer advertising either. yet the argentines don't seem to have created any sort of synthetic debenture based proxy for the chinese currency

02:14

mp_en_viaje

that bank very much buy the us, if anyone wanted suchj.

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02:15

mp_en_viaje

i get it, they don't do (enough) of what you want them to. but they do what they want to, for some reason they decided to go in through the phone hole. and they're in, orcs buy huawei, and declare it better than reich.

02:17

mp_en_viaje

and yes, all of huawei was built on [http://trilema.com/2011/modelele-succesului-intelectual/#comment-46439]]straight theft].

02:26

mp_en_viaje

problem is, took empire decade.5 to start mumbling about it ; and by now it's way too late, and their mumbling is vaguely reminiscent of bush jr's arab genocide attempt.

~ 5 hours 9 minutes ~

07:35

mp_en_viaje

ahhhh watermenlon

~ 3 hours 1 minutes ~

10:37

02:10	mp_en_viaje	asciilifeform, that;s nonsense. huawei currnently owns the "smart"phone market. it's their own phone, it's better than the reich phone, etc.
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02:12	mp_en_viaje	just because ~not reported~ by ustards means jack. ~exact same situation as ICBC, which is only mentioned re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612073 but which in fact http://btcbase.org/log/2014-06-05#703768
02:12	a111	Logged on 2017-02-07 04:38 mircea_popescu: "Examples of existing business arrangements that constitute violations of the foreign-emoluments clause include: Chinas state-owned Industrial and Commercial Bank of China is the largest tenant in Trump Tower, and the state-owned Bank of China is a major lender to Trump."
02:12	a111	Logged on 2014-06-05 12:19 mircea_popescu: the icbc is quite present here, to the point they do consumer advertising either. yet the argentines don't seem to have created any sort of synthetic debenture based proxy for the chinese currency
02:14	mp_en_viaje	that bank very much buy the us, if anyone wanted suchj.
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02:15	mp_en_viaje	i get it, they don't do (enough) of what you want them to. but they do what they want to, for some reason they decided to go in through the phone hole. and they're in, orcs buy huawei, and declare it better than reich.
02:17	mp_en_viaje	and yes, all of huawei was built on [http://trilema.com/2011/modelele-succesului-intelectual/#comment-46439]]straight theft].
02:26	mp_en_viaje	problem is, took empire decade.5 to start mumbling about it ; and by now it's way too late, and their mumbling is vaguely reminiscent of bush jr's arab genocide attempt.
		~ 5 hours 9 minutes ~
07:35	mp_en_viaje	ahhhh watermenlon
		~ 3 hours 1 minutes ~
10:37	asciilifeform	http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-23#1915310 << certainly cheaper than crapple, who nao charges ~weight-in-gold for their brick. but afaik, both camps of 'smartpnoje wars' are of chinese iron with reich os.
10:37	a111	Logged on 2019-05-23 06:10 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, that;s nonsense. huawei currnently owns the "smart"phone market. it's their own phone, it's better than the reich phone, etc.
10:37	mp_en_viaje	this is like observing both camps of chinese fighting over world carcass are wearing suits.
10:38	asciilifeform	hrm i seem to even recall that 'retro' costume is nao in fashion there
10:38	asciilifeform	a la the old imperial civil service garb
10:40	asciilifeform	( could be -- disinfo. asciilifeform has not been to china, cannot confirm. )
10:48	asciilifeform	http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-23#1915314 << for all i know, long ago already bought. reminds me of a fella i knew who compulsively bought old cars ( and garages, all over town, to put'em in, in which for them to rust... )
10:48	a111	Logged on 2019-05-23 06:14 mp_en_viaje: that bank very much buy the us, if anyone wanted suchj.
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12:08	BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Huawei sells pNohe models that dwarf Apple in price. The own the high end with a strong presence in the mid range market
12:11	asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: canhaz link to item ?
12:13	*	asciilifeform with great difficulty pictures anyone other than ameritards paying 4fig price for pnojeisms
12:13	BingoBoingo	http://archive.is/bFJMj Apparently some of the iThings that don't sell go higher in price, but 4-figure USD prices
12:15	BingoBoingo	Just under 1400 USD seems to be where they top out with the P30
12:15	asciilifeform	interesting. complete with crapple-style oled panel 'throw out after 2y from crt-style burn'
12:18	BingoBoingo	Well, they gotta keep the old high end from becoming the mid-low end in two years
12:19	asciilifeform	if to think about 'price ceiling', there is of course not a ceiling, even in 1990s there was somebody who sold gold-plated, diamond-encrusted motorola brickpnoje
12:20	asciilifeform	near as i can tell, all of the '4fig pnojes' are variations on this theme
12:21	asciilifeform	'look how rolexy i am, i paid whole comp's price for disposable pocket shit' etc
12:23	asciilifeform	crapple, incidentally, jacked up the price not so that rich idjits would buy, but so that poor idjits -- rent
12:23	asciilifeform	( if you walk into their store, the actual price iirc aint even printed on the sticker; instead 'monthly' rent )
12:24	BingoBoingo	A computer isn't the price comparison point here. This is Uruguay, they compare to the price of a motocicleta.
12:26	asciilifeform	pnoje is used as a comp substitute, neh, not transport
12:27	BingoBoingo	Sure, but no one think of computers as a known-price item here.
12:27	BingoBoingo	Then know the sticker prices on new motos
12:30	BingoBoingo	In the ongoing saga of a bizarre character: https://archive.is/mOwmu
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