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05:35 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-19#1903447 -> both work and will work; when I started, the only name I could say I won't change was my own, hence dianacoman.com; in time I found a name for the blog too (took a few detours) and that's ossasepia hence ossasepia.com; but I don't expect anyone to go through any trouble and have to change their links either way; I suppose strictly speaking the blog is ossasepia.com so that'd be the cannonical but I'll
05:35 a111 Logged on 2019-03-19 22:35 mircea_popescu: diana_coman i actually edited latest trilema to http://trilema.com/2019/lets-look-at-the-mechanism-of-decay/#selection-145.46-149.11 ; but i confess it's unclear which is the cannonical name. should it be dianacoman.com or ossasepia.com ?
05:41 diana_coman hm, the end there got clipped; I meant: I'll keep both domains and have redirects in place so all links with either domain work anyway.
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06:01 spyked re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-19#1903323 : services are back online. pl0x to poke me if anyhing's amiss.
06:01 a111 Logged on 2019-03-19 09:27 spyked: notice: feedbot, spykedbot and web facing items that I'm hosting (e.g. thetarpit) will be down tomorrow, the 20th of March, cca 8AM-12PM. apologies for any inconveniences this might cause.
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12:56 asciilifeform !!up pehbot
12:56 deedbot pehbot voiced for 30 minutes.
12:56 asciilifeform !A @z@[foo];@x@[x];@y@[y]@x!;@z!@x!@y!QY
12:56 pehbot asciilifeform: EGGOG: WARNING: Short Tape: Tapespace filled to position: 38 of 300.
12:57 asciilifeform err 1s
12:57 mircea_popescu well is it an error or a warning ?
12:57 asciilifeform forgot to disable warnings for bot
12:57 asciilifeform let's fire again:
12:57 asciilifeform !A @z@[foo];@x@[x];@y@[y]@x!;@z!@x!@y!QY
12:57 pehbot asciilifeform: fooxyx
12:58 asciilifeform there.
12:58 mircea_popescu this is getting delightfully elaborate.
12:58 asciilifeform pretty simple actually. (full detail in ch18 text)
12:58 mircea_popescu shall we have a brainfuck / gnarly pehcontest ?
12:59 asciilifeform thing is built as much as possible to discourage brainfuckism. (i.e. explicit positional tape movement is prohibited, ditto recursion)
12:59 mircea_popescu yeah, but that doesn't mean anything in context -- there's a "nimblest dancer" at the retirement home, also.
12:59 asciilifeform one of the wins from this is that whitespace addition/removal in the tape has no effect.
13:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform imo it's a decent exploration of ye olde negative space. "how would one write gnarl in peh, and how would one automate such, and so on"
13:01 asciilifeform @subname@body; declares a sub (declaration terminated by the ; so it is not possible to declare a sub with no return. ) @subname! calls the sub. sub can be called only if declared previously, and may not call self. sub may not be declared inside a sub or loop (i.e. if control stack is nonempty.)
13:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: errybody is welcome to try an' 'gnarl' .
13:01 mircea_popescu this is a lot like saying "every knight is welcome to try and tournament".
13:01 mircea_popescu what, in the field ? by self ?
13:02 asciilifeform ideally multi-player sport.
13:03 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i considered to mandate a minimal sub name length, but decided on '1' for time being.
13:04 asciilifeform commentary welcome.
13:05 mircea_popescu i'd say 2, tbh.
13:05 asciilifeform i was also thinking '2' initially
13:05 asciilifeform to avoid confusion with regs and standard ops
13:05 asciilifeform seems like mircea_popescu is thinking same thing, i'ma make '2'.
13:06 mircea_popescu yeah
13:06 asciilifeform asciilifeform's notion is to drive every possible nail into the heads of folx who like to 'obfuscated contest'
13:07 mircea_popescu sure.
13:09 asciilifeform sorta how i ended up starting with starvation minimum of control flow ops, and slowly added'em in after attempts to write e.g. rsa keygen w/out'em turned out quite ugly
13:10 asciilifeform i dun anticipate any new tape motion ops, period (besides, we're justabout outta ascii... )
13:16 asciilifeform for thrd-completeness -- the final design turned out quite diff from the orig 2017 prototype. e.g. orig i was gonna have jumps
13:16 asciilifeform but jumps 1) turn whitespace into semantically significant ops 2) would permit x86-style 'double meanings' where you can jump into middle of a prefixed (2-char) op , and so on
13:17 mircea_popescu aaaha.
13:18 asciilifeform in the end found that they are entirely unnecessary: ch4-style { } forward skip blocks, and ch17 controlstack-powered loop mechanics, do 100% of what is constructively done normally with numeric jumps
13:18 * mircea_popescu had this prepared in his notes, "and then he'll implement jumps, at which point dilemma : either all instructions are single byte, or else all instructions carry double meaning, from whence discussion of ambiguity in language etc".
13:18 mircea_popescu sidestepped.
13:18 asciilifeform entirely.
13:19 asciilifeform naturally it is impossible to make 'magic' proggy where somehow 'no one' can be confused. but can remove the obv. sharp edges that errybody seems to like cutting own limbs off, w/out much cost, turns out.
13:23 asciilifeform the most obvious mistake would be to 'von neumann' and to permit the tape to write to the tape, but i avoided that from beginning.
13:23 asciilifeform tape cannot write to self.
13:23 asciilifeform ( it ~can~ print a new tape, which is how one e.g. generates keys, etc )
13:26 mircea_popescu instabootstrappers meet gameoflife on tape!
13:26 mircea_popescu honestly i don't think we've even scratched the surface of what this thing can do.
13:27 asciilifeform so far i focused mostly on ~removing~ 'can-dos' lol
13:29 mircea_popescu yes, but consider : as a counterpart of the "gnalr contest", which imo is not that bad of an idea even if it flows necessarily from the ~nature~ of the substrate, "only intellectually challenging thing to do in c++ is gnarl, much like only thing to do with mud is mess", one could also resurrect ye olde game of life (remember the mike_c project ?). construct say the tape that has the most interesting downstream (by some ~abstr
13:29 mircea_popescu act~ definition of interesting ; concrete definitions are things like "write a tape to do rsa with".)
13:29 asciilifeform design objective was, it oughta be able to generate any reasonable current or fyootoor publickeytron key , transform privs to pubs for publication, and operate to sign/encr/decr., with the 'tapes' being maximally human-readable , and the mechanics of the state machine per se, watertight. errything on top of this -- is bonus.
13:30 mircea_popescu ie, it's a major abstractive tool -- consider only how it structured "interesting" above.
13:32 asciilifeform ( the other design objective, perhaps less obvious, is that enables treatment of incoming ciphertexts as 'passive subjects' operated upon by 'active' privkey, i.e. it is not possible for an incoming pehgram to decide to print yer privkey to screen, or radio its bits to aether by constructed pattern of decrypts, etc )
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13:33 asciilifeform ^ most of the possible 'naive' designs for pehlike item, fail at this
13:37 mircea_popescu myeah.
13:41 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/03/erdogan-intensifies-anti-anzac-talking-points-by-invoking-gallipoli/ << Qntra -- Erdogan Intensifies Anti-ANZAC Talking Points By Invoking Gallipoli
13:41 BingoBoingo ^ Brenton Tarrant, very effective Turkish Nationalist
13:43 mircea_popescu lol not bad.
13:44 asciilifeform pretty good upgrade from 'reddit scum', just about
13:44 asciilifeform ( supposing whole thing not sham , i've nfi )
13:47 asciilifeform ... then again maybe no upgrade, consider , in ww1 no one remembered gavrilo p., d00d quietly died of typhus iirc while europe chopped off own limbs
13:49 mircea_popescu australia-turkey war, top keks.
13:49 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/brexit-grexit-departugal-italeave-czechout-finish-oustria-latervia-byegium/#selection-103.162-111.212 <<< the controlling point on the matter.
13:50 mircea_popescu somehow, magically, i don't expect any "democratic decision factors" being hanged, or even as much as confronted (let alone admitting) their strict liability for this result.
13:51 asciilifeform i still dunget wainot turks in eu
13:51 mircea_popescu "liberal man" more and more reminiscent of debbie do anything's settlement husband in http://trilema.com/2016/vacation/
13:51 asciilifeform iirc orig was 'cuz camelfuckistan will transit through it and move to sweden' but naodays that's Officially Blessed
13:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so the eu can fail rather than thrive. they were "contending for the faith", see.
13:51 asciilifeform so wainot turks
13:51 asciilifeform aa
13:52 mircea_popescu there's this fundamental self-hatred at the basis of "decisions" the schmucky whitebois take. "i shouldn't do well".
13:52 asciilifeform i suspect they also hate turks cuz the latter functional/sane
13:52 asciilifeform non-miami-compliant orcs
13:53 mircea_popescu well, in any case insufficiently impressed by "indignation" and other such vat-relevant devices.
13:53 mircea_popescu amusingly, turkey actually is what miami aims to be.
13:53 mircea_popescu always was, too, roman elite went to fucking smyrna.
13:53 asciilifeform turks -- champs, i've nfi wai frogman picked on'em
13:55 mircea_popescu “Remarks have been made by the Turkish President Erdogan that I consider highly offensive to Australians, and highly reckless in this very sensitive environment,” Mr Morrison said.
13:55 BingoBoingo Probably because civilized.
13:55 mircea_popescu keks of all time. HIGHLY reckless, you see.
13:55 * asciilifeform found entertaining rumour, that usg has hurriedly moved nuke warehouse from turks to ro
13:55 mircea_popescu not to mention HIGHLY!!!! iiiiiiinappropriate.
13:55 mircea_popescu the wooden tongue of these tards.
13:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform tis fact.
13:55 * asciilifeform buys.
13:56 mircea_popescu cost plenty of dough, too.
13:56 asciilifeform aha, when they move it is like when old sultan moved
13:57 asciilifeform 9000 bodies around erry cart
13:57 BingoBoingo Then there's the whole S-400 versus Patriot Missile air defense decision the USG forced on Turkey and is still trying to do take backsies on.
13:57 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633625 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902800 very much related, by the way.
13:57 a111 Logged on 2017-03-29 00:56 mircea_popescu: in other oh wows, elena udrea (ro slut politician, quite successful. http://trilema.com/2009/super-terrific-caption-hour-part-i/ ) got convicted for nothing in particular (her party no longer in power), 5 years.
13:57 a111 Logged on 2019-03-15 02:50 mircea_popescu: https://www.diarioextra.com/Noticia/detalle/378184/anulan-sentencia-de-exministra-rumana << incidentally, she walks.
13:57 mircea_popescu "conviction" of public person / functionary / official in orclands 100% "usg.blue interference" by now.
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13:57 BingoBoingo And Turkey being supplier of certain F-35 part for euro markets
13:59 mircea_popescu the problem being, of course, usg.blue then gets caught with pants down regularly, and well, such lulz ensue. "you want us to help you save your nukes now ? suck on this cock, dorks."
13:59 BingoBoingo The USG defense industry marketers have been getting right fucked by the Turks since they decided Turkey was good enough to make new things, but not buy old things
14:00 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: primary occupation of 'blue' seems historically to be -- to help 'red' stuff its cock in blender
14:01 mircea_popescu the warnings to any orcs thinking of following usg.blue's nonsense do pile on : they'll leave you high and dry, yo! wake up an' smell the coffee.
14:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform red is a myth.
14:01 asciilifeform nuke house & related ceremonials , ministered to by 'red'
14:01 mircea_popescu nope.
14:01 BingoBoingo And the Syria situation where NATO member Turkey's allies do not overlap with NATO member USG's allies
14:01 BingoBoingo Last of Red died in Green color revolution
14:02 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nato's practically dead, as a political structure.
14:02 BingoBoingo Survivors shot taming Trump
14:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: historically existed tho, the folx who set up e.g iraq, by idjit pseudo-diplomacy, were not the one who then sent to die in desert.
14:02 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo nato's practically dead, as a political structure. << But Brasil wants in now!!!
14:02 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo it's a tenous argument that such a thing as "red" even during vietnam era. which is you know, half century wtf.
14:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "sent to die" gimme a break, whole premise of iraq was "nobody dies, nobody even walks the ground. we all sit in mcdonalds and do munch"
14:03 asciilifeform premise yes, reality iirc slightly diff
14:03 mircea_popescu very slightly.
14:03 mircea_popescu btw, anyone recall where that trilema article is, which literally says, "if you believe what usg lies to you, you'll end up in impossible committments which they WILL NOT help you pay for. they'll just withdraw leaving you hanging." ?
14:04 asciilifeform i find the 'coloured' model useful, it describes the -- quite diff -- sets of folx , one which grifts on 'orange revolution' management, other -- lives to churn inventory for lockheed et al
14:04 mircea_popescu "when dealing with usg, make sure you get 100% payment upfront" was http://trilema.com/2015/heres-what-they-dont-tell-you-when-they-bring-you-those-papers-to-sign/ ; but iirc i had a different one.
14:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is a distinction without a difference.
14:05 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2016/asscience/ ???
14:05 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no, this is the "manalone dies like he deserves to die, and like all will die"
14:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've had the misfortune to meet both types , they're distinguishable even from across street , as if fantasy characters , dwarf, elf
14:06 mircea_popescu item i have in mind was quite pointedly at functionaries, "judges", assorted sops.
14:06 asciilifeform 'militaristic' meathead quite diff even visually from the 'demoocracy spreader'
14:06 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2019/03/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-july-august-and-september-1716-part-ix/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of July, August and September, 1716. - Part IX.
14:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the last time that distinction might've translated a meaningful difference was literally at the ONSET of vietnam war, opposing a very rudimentary "act from causes vs act for effects" dilemma.
14:07 mircea_popescu but i mean at the ~onset~. by the time nixon was involved no such thing as meaningful red spoke publicly.
14:07 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2017/time-to-get-out-by-the-way/
14:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no, that's for zeks imagining themselves "inside the system".
14:08 mircea_popescu this was for orcs contemplating saying "yes" to the questions that may only be answered with the orlov niet.
14:10 asciilifeform possibly i'm thick, but afaik 'blue' / 'red' as diff as can be -- even murder weapon of choice diff, 'red' with rocket strike , 'blue' prefers 'democratic crowd with raised awareness' (or if fails, poison)
14:10 mircea_popescu this is like saying "difference between blue elephant and red elephant is tusk vs trunk".
14:10 mircea_popescu there's absolutely no difference, pantsuited hilarity's hilarious claim to manhood was "being in the situation room"
14:11 asciilifeform imho moar like elefant vs walrus
14:11 asciilifeform yes , both heavy, and tusks..
14:11 mircea_popescu absolutely not.
14:12 asciilifeform they even use entirely diff ethnics -- 'red' ~100% from BingoBoingo's 'flyover states' , 'blue' -- new england
14:13 mircea_popescu clinton was from alabama.
14:13 mircea_popescu obama was from chicago.
14:13 mircea_popescu you got nothing.
14:15 BingoBoingo USG.Red is a subdivision of USG.Blue that exists in the hallucinations of its members, that there is/was a great relevant to them and they can have have it again.
14:15 * asciilifeform admittedly not current on subj. for all i know, both ends nao ~100% 'preet' from bombay.
14:16 asciilifeform decade ago tho, when actually had to suffer sitting in room with both chiralities, found it quite impossible to confuse 1 for other, even blindfolded
14:17 BingoBoingo USG.Red probably exists in the way this guy is a wizard https://preview.redd.it/7gmxlr1ukan21.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=85e516926dda1e02f94efc406ff61f77801ed3f9
14:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i am happy with his timeline : item that was last seen alive cca 1955, was finally buried with clinton's putsch in 90s.
14:18 mircea_popescu one could be excused from believing corpse "is merely sleeping", but not past burial.
14:18 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: wtf is that
14:18 mircea_popescu and at the time of burial, it becomes evident corpse was older than the very instant of coffin lowering.
14:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: usgstan is fulla critters that by all rights 'dead' but somehow not got memo, still move..
14:19 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Local wizard fucking with traffic at the intersection of General Artigas y General Rivera
14:19 mircea_popescu not the case here.
14:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: srsly, dontcha think you could distinguish e.g. grunt with 3 iraq tours, from usg.'state' jockey 'advisor in syria', even if both stripped and tied to posts ?
14:22 asciilifeform they aint even shaped same.
14:22 mircea_popescu nope. the grunt no longer exists, and ~hasn't~, other than in pretense, since vietnam.
14:22 asciilifeform iirc there was even a recent mircea_popescu piece on subj ! one with 'fox' and 'bull'
14:23 mircea_popescu i can also distinguish skateboarders such as curt cobain was a kiddy amongst, from retarded ben stiller carrying around a skateboard while dressed in a lumberjack costume.
14:23 mircea_popescu link ?
14:23 mircea_popescu next you're gonna tell me about "biker gangs", wtf.
14:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: was piece from last 6wks iirc. ( no working search for trilema, so cannot find in O(1) , tried )
14:26 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-01#1900039 << is this your grunt ?
14:26 a111 Logged on 2019-03-01 22:36 asciilifeform at one time did work that put'im in contact with these folx. met a d00d who, convincingly, described playing 'call of duty: iraq' on... lappy, in actual iraq
14:26 asciilifeform that one -- was genuine grunt. proper agricultural face an' all.
14:27 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> nope. the grunt no longer exists, and ~hasn't~, other than in pretense, since vietnam. << Pretty fair assessment. All I've know drank themselves into various sorts of bondage.
14:27 mircea_popescu think for a second : the "grunt" is mental ghost, from before phone age. can you picture one with smartphone anymore than you can picture juliet capuled with double dong ?
14:27 asciilifeform i dun think he even ever used a comp aside from that occasion.
14:27 mircea_popescu capulet*
14:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform riiight, cuz that's how it works. "other than that one gangbang she told me about, i married a virgin"
14:28 mircea_popescu what is this, an ode to memory hole effect ?
14:28 asciilifeform i suppose from the pov where errybody since ww1 is a rag doll, then yes no grunt to be had
14:28 mircea_popescu vietnam. onset.
14:33 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2017/again-with-the-money-laundering-bullshit/ ???
14:35 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, actually i think this is it!
14:35 mircea_popescu tyvm!
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16:12 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/ << Qntra -- Uranium Convoy Fired On In Brazil
16:26 diana_coman hanbot, mircea_popescu or any other mpwp expert: how do I allow html tags in comments for non-logged in users?
16:27 diana_coman I looked and apparently I have the allowed_html array fine in kses.php
16:27 diana_coman but it doesn't seem to care about it so something else supersedes it?
16:27 diana_coman I couldn't find any specific hook added and my theme doesn't seem to be to blame for this either as I tried with out-of-box theme and it was same behaviour
16:30 diana_coman rather: allowedtags var in kses.php which I understand is used by default filters
16:42 hanbot diana_coman: re behavior, does it fuck up the tag or send the comment to modqueue?
16:44 diana_coman hanbot: apparently...both! i.e. comments gets sent to modqueue but tag is gone too.
16:44 diana_coman my setting is modqueue for >= 1 link
16:45 hanbot hrm. and on same setting page, "comment author must have a previously approved comment"?
16:46 diana_coman yes, that is checked
16:48 hanbot bizarre. i'll look into it, possibly mircea_popescu knows the culprit by sight tho'.
16:49 diana_coman given this behaviour I suspect some sort of strip/filter at some intermediate step but I don't know wp that well
16:58 diana_coman hanbot: hm, actually I was wrong: comment from previously approved user makes it directly, no modqueue.
16:59 diana_coman so tags are just removed and that's that
16:59 diana_coman does that suggest anything to try?
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17:36 mircea_popescu diana_coman is there a filters hook thing ?
17:37 diana_coman mircea_popescu: what/where should I look exactly? my dig into this yielded a sort of 1001 possible filters to add but I could not find one other than default afaik
17:37 mircea_popescu lessee here, 1sec
17:42 mircea_popescu in /home/trilema/public_html/wp-comments-post.php ln 41 :
17:42 mircea_popescu $comment_content = ( isset($_POST['comment']) ) ? trim(strip_tags($_POST['comment'],"<a><em><strong><i><b><blockquote><ul><ol><li>")) : null;
17:42 mircea_popescu ?
17:42 diana_coman that one is there, I saw it earlier
17:43 mircea_popescu like that, including zee blockquote, yes ?
17:43 diana_coman yes
17:43 diana_coman lemme look at it again just in case
17:43 mircea_popescu aite, lessee here.
17:45 diana_coman confirmed, it's in there: comment_content = ( isset($_POST['comment']) ) ? trim(strip_tags($_POST['comment'],"<a><em><strong><i><b><blockquote><ul><ol><li>")) : null;
17:47 mircea_popescu diana_coman in kses.php is defined twice, at lines 300 and 61 ?
17:48 diana_coman mircea_popescu: yes, once in allowedposttags and once in allowedtags
17:49 mircea_popescu in formatting.php, is in on the list of $allblocks ?
17:50 diana_coman mircea_popescu: yes: $allblocks = '(?:table|thead|tfoot|caption|colgroup|tbody|tr|td|th|div|dl|dd|dt|ul|ol|li|pre|select|form|map|area|blockquote|address|math|style|input|p|h[1-6]|hr)';
18:00 mircea_popescu diana_coman this is truly all i head. are you using a mp-wp or own roll ?
18:01 diana_coman mircea_popescu: I installed it from hanbot's genesis; I added my old footnote's plugin and changed in the theme to show the recent comments, that's about it.
18:02 mircea_popescu i have nfi how the fuck is this possible then.
18:02 diana_coman and today I dug up chasing this thing but so far I have only better understanding of wp to show for it
18:02 diana_coman so I'll have to sink in more time and find out, sigh
18:03 diana_coman fwiw if I'm logged in, it keeps the tags in comments and I saw that yes, it has that current_user can html sort of thing but that is ALL html
18:03 mircea_popescu yeah, the admin can post w/e the hell he wants.
18:04 diana_coman other than that I grepped around and could not find additional hooks set, nor additional calls to strip nor anything useful really
18:04 * diana_coman adds it to the list to unfuck and probably post, ugh.
18:05 diana_coman also: I tried adding specifically to that array, another tag but it clearly just ignores/bypasses it somewhere; not even sure how to figure out *where* (i.e. when)
18:07 mircea_popescu i don't currently know wtf to tell you. there's these two points, whereby $allowedtags hold the allowed tags and then that content filter removes some from comments at time of posting.
18:08 mircea_popescu can you dump the actual content of $allowedtags while the thing is running ? is it getting blanked somewhere downstream ?
18:09 diana_coman mircea_popescu: I did uncomment the "you can use these html tags" which calls allowed_tags and that showed precisely what is in allowedtags as far as I could tell
18:09 mircea_popescu yeah. and it was there ?
18:09 diana_coman yes
18:09 diana_coman 1 min
18:10 diana_coman it's live and it shows: XHTML: You can use these tags: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <pre> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>
18:11 diana_coman the only thing to do next that I can think of is to try and trace wtf happens, step by step but I don't even have a clear idea on that.
18:15 mircea_popescu yup they get stripped. wtf.
18:15 mircea_popescu diana_coman i have nfi what to tell you.
18:15 diana_coman thanks for trying anyway.
18:15 mircea_popescu other than, let either hanbot or billymg get to the bottom of this.
18:16 diana_coman hanbot seems to have them working on her blog and so does nicoleci where I think it's barebasic install so as close to genesis as possible
18:17 mircea_popescu diana_coman factually, it works on mine, and on all other mp-wp installs ~but yours~.
18:17 hanbot i wish i knew what the shit. what really throws me is same behavior cross-theme, as i thought this stuff was theme-handled. i'ma keep digging.
18:17 diana_coman so I guess the first thing is if anyone else can replicate it or it's something specific to my setup somehow - in which case,it's entirely mine to find...
18:18 diana_coman hanbot: maybe I messed up at some point all themes; I'll press the genesis again and unpack a clean theme from there and see if that sorts it
18:18 diana_coman at least it gives something to start with
18:18 mircea_popescu how long ago was this install ? i mean, mp-wp hasn't been around long enough for you to have changed something by hand ~and forgot~, is it ?
18:19 hanbot diana_coman, there's at least one instance of this happening on my blog (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729169), but i dun recall doing anything to "fix" it, unhelpfully. maybe it's actually 100% broken and i just don't get link comments? lessee.
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18:19 a111 Logged on 2017-10-26 04:35 mircea_popescu: hanbot your bot ate my links. anyway, here : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-07#1498460
18:20 diana_coman mircea_popescu: initially I tried to simply drop in my own theme but that did not play nicely with mpwp; and for a (very short) time I stayed with the basic but it was so annoying that I quickly whipped up something.
18:21 mircea_popescu hanbot confirmed. http://thewhet.net/2019/03/hanbots-cuntoo-bake-test-notes-part-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-55201 was "No it <a href=http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-20#1903776>didn't</a>."
18:21 a111 Logged on 2019-03-20 22:19 hanbot: diana_coman, there's at least one instance of this happening on my blog (http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-26#1729169), but i dun recall doing anything to "fix" it, unhelpfully. maybe it's actually 100% broken and i just don't get link comments? lessee.
18:21 mircea_popescu http://bimbo.club/2019/03/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-july-august-and-september-1716-part-ix/comment-page-1/#comment-101 << same here.
18:21 mircea_popescu mp-wp is actually broken
18:22 mircea_popescu iiincredibru enough.
18:22 hanbot well better that than untraceable sidecase. sorry this wasn't caught sooner.
18:23 diana_coman I do have this talent of stepping on such things
18:23 mircea_popescu meanwhile both http://qntra.net/2019/03/uranium-convoy-fired-on-in-brazil/#comment-126190 and http://bingology.net/2019/03/14/more-future-sight-in-the-southern-cone/comment-page-1/#comment-689 handle it correctly
18:23 mircea_popescu and evidently moderation's not involved : qntra doesn't and bingology does, but same result.
18:24 diana_coman BingoBoingo: what did you do to get your mpwp to NOT strip html tags from comments?
18:24 mircea_popescu word.
18:26 diana_coman ahaha, meanwhile fun with testing: one CAN get a link but inside <pre> as per http://ossasepia.com/2019/03/15/eucrypt-chapter-16-bytestream-inputoutput-keccak/comment-page-1/#comment-5076
18:26 diana_coman either it doesn't strip 2 levels or it doesn't strip specifically inside pre
18:26 BingoBoingo diana_coman: I'll have to dig. Qntra's not on mp-wp yet.
18:36 mircea_popescu diana_coman is "wp_strip_all_tags()" called at any point ?
18:37 diana_coman mircea_popescu: no; a grep returned nothing at all (-ir from top dir of wp install)
18:37 mircea_popescu is $allowedtags ever unset() (presumably downstream from where it prints the contents above forum box) ?
18:40 diana_coman not that I can tell at a quick grep
18:42 mircea_popescu hm.
18:42 mircea_popescu well, im out of straws to clutch at
~ 24 minutes ~
19:07 hanbot in wp-comments-post.php line 42 i see a list of content tags including b, blockquote, em, etc, but not a href; but eh looks like e.g. b is stripped too.
19:07 hanbot comment content tags, i mean.
19:09 hanbot eh nvm already covered above.
19:10 * diana_coman will go and get some sleep
19:18 BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8WfnB/?raw=true << The comments.php file contents on Bingology
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19:42 asciilifeform !!up peh
19:42 deedbot peh voiced for 30 minutes.
19:42 asciilifeform !A '@foo@[sumthing seekrit]; LC @uses_seekrit@[in blah :]@foo!; RC @uses_seekrit! QY
19:43 asciilifeform grr
19:43 asciilifeform !A @foo@[sumthing seekrit]; LC @uses_seekrit@[in blah :]@foo!; RC @uses_seekrit! QY
19:43 asciilifeform loox like i killed the lisp bot , brb
19:45 asciilifeform !!up pehbot
19:45 deedbot pehbot voiced for 30 minutes.
19:45 asciilifeform !A @foo@[sumthing seekrit]; LC @uses_seekrit@[in blah :]@foo!; RC @uses_seekrit! QY
19:45 pehbot asciilifeform: in blah :sumthing seekrit
19:45 asciilifeform !A @foo@[sumthing seekrit]; LC @uses_seekrit@[in blah :]@foo!; RC @foo! QY
19:45 pehbot asciilifeform: EGGOG: FATAL: Tick: 68 IP: 68 Symbol: '!' : Attempted movement to IP: 6 violates the Cutout!
19:46 asciilifeform there we go.
19:46 asciilifeform ^ exercise for readers: what's this.
19:49 asciilifeform ( hint: it's 1 of the mechanisms behind http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-20#1903598 . )
19:49 a111 Logged on 2019-03-20 17:32 asciilifeform: ( the other design objective, perhaps less obvious, is that enables treatment of incoming ciphertexts as 'passive subjects' operated upon by 'active' privkey, i.e. it is not possible for an incoming pehgram to decide to print yer privkey to screen, or radio its bits to aether by constructed pattern of decrypts, etc )
19:58 * asciilifeform sadly has nuffin to add to the php debug thrd, finds php a voodoo art
20:00 * asciilifeform bbl:meat
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