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00:04 deedbot http://bimbo.club/?p=82 << Bimbo.Club - What a Good Citizen Means to Me.
~ 2 hours 7 minutes ~
02:12 ben_vulpes asciilifeform, mod6, BingoBoingo: the mistake in july's statement is all mine: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/POt9B/?raw=true
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02:12 lobbesbot ben_vulpes: Sent 3 days, 4 hours, and 59 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> didja find the eggog ? you estimated 'wednesday', and the day is nearly at end..
02:12 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: ty for the update
02:13 ben_vulpes mod6: i ask for your corroboration of a log line in that letter.
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02:15 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i will let you know if i need more time to finish the august audit by tomorrow eve.
02:16 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: glad to be of service
02:19 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Let me know if ther is anything I can do to help
02:24 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Also let me know if you have any questions about how the clarifying notes were cut from the listing of customer accounts should you have the time. I would like to kill the idea of a pile of clarifying notes being something every account has and restrict account particular notes to being a rare thing noted for eventually bringing an account into concordance with standards, however they fall.
02:31 BingoBoingo !Qlater tell nicoleci I raise your 103 words with a story http://bimbo.club/?p=82&cpage=1#comment-35
02:31 lobbesbot BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
~ 21 minutes ~
02:52 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: i certainly will on both points, although not tonight. i don't see sticking subscriptions into a db as a particularly difficult thing at all.
02:54 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: What I've mostly been running into is archaeology, three people saying the same thing three different ways.
02:56 ben_vulpes one of the things dbs are good for is the shared spreadshit and enforcement of only one way of saying things. razoring off places to get creative is a boon to getting shit done.
02:57 ben_vulpes provided the shit getting done is largely the same time and again.
~ 3 hours 41 minutes ~
06:38 mircea_popescu http://bimbo.club/?p=82&cpage=1#comment-35 << it's kinda funny that BingoBoingo 's ~current~ memories of his drunken years still sound drunk af.
06:39 mircea_popescu kinda interesting premise for a short, someone starts a drying clinic ~for memories~. "yes mr x, we understand you haven't been drinking for years... but your memories of a decade ago still need wringing out!"
06:44 mircea_popescu re the razoring above : http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/#footnote_15_51632 and think about it : creativity ~has to be limited in place~. can't go creative simply wherever one creatively feels the itch ; the whole point of society, the entire justification of eating the otherwise significant costs of even having a society in the first place, is this limitation of creativity to specific plac
06:44 mircea_popescu es.
06:48 mircea_popescu "Mircea_popescu made the point that, useful people are useful and not useful is useless" ; "Qatar has no sense about opportunity" ; "Bingoboingo provided an update on qntra that, Canada has no bud to sell" this shit is fucking histerical.
06:49 mircea_popescu "Mocky and the republic is attempting to help Qatar become a real country" <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-03#1869171
06:49 a111 Logged on 2018-11-03 22:38 mircea_popescu: Mocky so i guess next step is make an appointment with their minister of technology, industry, or whatever the fuck, explain to the secretarial overseer you end up seeing that the republic is in principle willing to do some tech transfer help them become a real country, exchange confused nods and handshakes and set the bozo bit on the ball of faux carpeting yarn pretending to be a country ?
06:53 mircea_popescu in fairness, there's also the occasional gem. "Forced conduct prohibits genuine relationships" no shit. it's like reading the charlie chaplin version of carnegie.
~ 1 hours 54 minutes ~
08:47 Mocky trinque, is there anything wrong with my pending withdrawals from a few days ago or do you just need to hand crank em?
~ 2 hours 3 minutes ~
10:51 mircea_popescu "I’m Lia Sweet, an amateur content creator and online sex worker from the beautiful PNW". << http://trilema.com/2018/hey-women-did-you-know-that-before-the-pantsuited-hilarity-gave-you-your-civil-rights-you-were-living-in-slavery/
10:52 mircea_popescu good fucking thing these morons "progress&civil rights for women". because totally, living in a concrete box @"the beautiful" as a sex slave so much beats being a 1950s housewife
10:52 mircea_popescu at least this is impersonal, right.
11:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, gotta tell the history with fidelity to the memory.
11:07 BingoBoingo Even if the source material is blurry, incomplete, and associated with very strong feelings however inconsistent they are.
11:20 mircea_popescu true.
~ 27 minutes ~
11:48 asciilifeform pnw << wassat
11:48 trinque Mocky: getting to it right now
11:48 trinque and various other backlog items
11:48 trinque asciilifeform: pacific northwest I wager
11:48 asciilifeform aaa
11:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know, where the liberal mares run free
11:51 asciilifeform that's whole of gringostan neh
11:51 mircea_popescu nah. some places it freezes
11:51 mircea_popescu frost kills bums and other bacteria
11:51 mircea_popescu oh im sorry, "content creator/sex worker"s
11:52 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i regret to inform that frost fails to kill bums reliably over here
11:52 asciilifeform they hang out in mcd, steam grates, etc
11:52 mircea_popescu ellajanex 23F Undecided "You wrote a whole message in the header? I can’t even read that shit." LordMPofTMSR "Think of it as an intelligence test. That you're failing." ellajanex "I’m out of school i don’t need tests or games lmao" << there, might that substitute ?
11:52 asciilifeform the underground train is also a favourite
11:53 mircea_popescu the pnw is where the liberal mares are "outta school", no moar patriarchy to beat them until they either die or perform at their own liberal option.
11:53 asciilifeform i expect they mix coffee for a living there just as here
11:55 mircea_popescu i should prolly show this one, it's worth it. a secx
11:57 mircea_popescu here we go https://image.ibb.co/meqsZf/liasweet-the-content-creator.jpg
11:57 asciilifeform unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons
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11:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: loox a little bit like your earlier one, but with paint job
11:58 mircea_popescu american girls.
11:59 asciilifeform i'd imagine it could shed ~half of its mass if put in mircea_popescu's terrarium
12:00 mircea_popescu there's subtle differences chicken farmers notice and anyone else doesn't re sickly chickens.
12:00 asciilifeform what'd that be, for this specimen ?
12:01 mircea_popescu she's too fat to be worth shedding.
12:01 asciilifeform could very well be troo, i have nfi
12:01 asciilifeform iirc at a certain point you gotta snip the extra hide off
12:02 mircea_popescu the body ain't linear, a certain % works one way then... exactly.
12:02 asciilifeform it's a major 'industry', if you will, in usa. like cock-snipping in thailand
12:03 asciilifeform erry so often, d00d with money gets a hold of one of these chickens, and gotta make silk purse from sow's ear somehow
12:03 mircea_popescu and yet they still don['t make the leather couches!
12:03 asciilifeform but yes i cant picture why mircea_popescu would bother
12:03 mircea_popescu would bother with what ?
12:04 asciilifeform taking 1 of these and having it sewn into human form
12:05 mircea_popescu well in practice i havent ; in theory i dunno, cuz we're believers in the human spirit and haven't yet turned down someone because he's black or whatever ?
12:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, do you see how this relates to the ia/ai discussion ?
12:11 asciilifeform not directly?
12:11 mircea_popescu you wanna fix the brains that are, or replace them with some other brains that aren't ?
12:12 mircea_popescu !!up bullcosby
12:12 deedbot bullcosby voiced for 30 minutes.
12:12 asciilifeform as i understand, this one is moar re the third path, i.e. search for working brains in the wild
12:12 bullcosby Hello
12:12 bullcosby I was wondering where this image was taken from?: http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_nov2015.jpg
12:13 asciilifeform from mircea_popescu's www, lol
12:13 mircea_popescu the articulation of the comparison is (brains as in w/e makes males valuable) vs (whatever makes females valuable). as a gender construct.
12:13 mircea_popescu if you're willing to teach bois math, why aren't you willing to sew girls a new coat.
12:13 mircea_popescu bullcosby that's my slavegirl on my roof of my buenos aires residence a few years ago.
12:14 bullcosby mircea_popescu: any more pics of her?
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12:16 mircea_popescu sure.
12:17 mircea_popescu !!up echelon
12:17 deedbot echelon voiced for 30 minutes.
12:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i cannot speak as expert, but as i understand -- not only will new coat not be anything like the orig coat, destroyed by owner's stupidity, but sewn coat will not correct the problem that resulted in needing new
12:18 mircea_popescu and this does not apply to teaching bois math because ? math also won't fix the underlying problem that resulted in their having to learn how to think properly in the first place.
12:18 echelon how do i identify myself to deedbot, it says my key is already registered
12:18 mircea_popescu echelon using that key.
12:18 trinque !!help
12:18 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
12:19 bullcosby mircea_popescu: link?
12:19 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nobody's born knowing maffs, or piano, or pilotage, but most critters come from factory with firmware 'how to stop eating when not hungry'. if this is broken, new coat dun fix
12:20 mircea_popescu bullcosby suppose you just read all of trilema as a goodboi, and let it change what you are, rather than expect you're important enough for your malformed desires to be gratified.
12:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform and the reason for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868388 is different than the reason for "stop eating when not hungry" ? both were equally obvious at all points.
12:20 a111 Logged on 2018-11-01 17:44 asciilifeform: i had to algebraize the thing , and have just the right rng bits flip in head , to get the 'ceiling tiles' ( why didn't mircea_popescu get'em in '15 ? )
12:21 mircea_popescu in that obvious is just as obvious as any other obvious.
12:22 echelon mircea_popescu: which command initiates otp?
12:22 mircea_popescu you say !!up to deedbot privately.
12:22 echelon i did, and it said: You may not $up yourself.
12:23 trinque you are not rated. try introducing yourself first.
12:23 mircea_popescu !!key echelon
12:23 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/F924DC9D84B3181E568600D9B5BC4681288D5FCC.asc
12:23 mircea_popescu !#born echelon
12:23 a111 2018-11-18 <echelon> how do i identify myself to deedbot, it says my key is already registered >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873326
12:23 mircea_popescu echelon so when did you register it then ?
12:23 trinque !!reputation echelon
12:23 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ba52K/?raw=true
12:24 trinque ^ apparently oldtimer but not l1 rated
12:24 echelon i dunno, it said i was already registered
12:24 mircea_popescu echelon deedbot imported gribbles ratings back in the day.
12:24 echelon https://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=echelon grubble has my rating
12:24 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1F1F9C0BC12E7C73E78AA81364660EEB11D235950DB7509E5927D826A2ED721B fwiw, has been alive for at least that long
12:24 echelon gribble*
12:24 mircea_popescu the reason you can't up yourself is that nobody here cares about the people who rated you there (indeed, some are known scammers, some are entirely unknown nobodies etc).
12:25 echelon nanotube and theymos?
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12:25 mircea_popescu !#s "theymos"
12:25 a111 652 results for "\"theymos\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22theymos%22
12:26 mircea_popescu nanotube is the dood that was going to fix gribble to work with deedbot, then didn't. used to have some clout, then a little clout, by today indistinguishable from w/e last months; crop of wanna-bes, fluffypony, josh garza, whatever.
12:26 echelon well, i dunno anything about the interchannel politics
12:26 mircea_popescu what are you doing here anyway ?
12:26 echelon danielpbarron called into lrh last night
12:27 mircea_popescu ah.
12:27 asciilifeform what's lrh ?
12:27 mircea_popescu that radio thing.
12:27 asciilifeform !#seen danielpbarron
12:27 a111 2018-10-15 <danielpbarron> !!up slycordinator
12:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aaah the 'pirate' folx
12:30 mircea_popescu echelon ok, so do you do anything ? are you notable for any reason ?
12:30 asciilifeform ( who for some perverse reason insist on sticking to heathen voice band , exactly where usg wants'em )
12:31 mircea_popescu same ole http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756992
12:31 a111 Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
12:31 asciilifeform exactly these
12:32 mircea_popescu not really so much wanting to "transform" anything other than the misfortunate situation where the system doesn't seem to recognize their mental picture of their own station. in the sense that why does it see them so low!!!
12:32 asciilifeform rezistenta prin cultura ! (tm)(r)
12:36 echelon mircea_popescu: i was the one that originally did the documentation for setting up hidden service fallback nodes, before the client had built-in support for it
12:37 asciilifeform !#s tor
12:37 a111 1160 results for "tor", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tor
12:37 asciilifeform echelon ^
12:37 mircea_popescu afaik this not the same thing
12:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'hidden service' is a tor (tm)(r) ism, afaik
12:37 asciilifeform i dun know of other systems using the term
12:38 trinque could be i2p?
12:38 asciilifeform potentially ( i.e. the even sadder, lamer knockoff tor )
12:38 echelon yes, on tor
12:38 trinque echelon: got any other hobbies besides cp on govnet?
12:39 mircea_popescu "[04:17] <echelon> so has anyone tried launching a rocket from a balloon?"
12:39 mircea_popescu yes, ~everything lol.
12:39 echelon lol, where's that from
12:39 echelon yeah, that was me
12:40 mircea_popescu "[1:40] <echelon> hi, i installed ubuntu server on a 2011.12 model of raspberry pi model b"
12:40 mircea_popescu lol. srsly, other than hipstering about, do you actually do anything ?
12:41 mircea_popescu "echelon hi, i need to read a structured spreadsheet type of file that's in binary, basically involves reading the record which is the header information as to how the records are structured, and then reading the records. how would i go about doing this?" and so on ad infinitum.
12:41 asciilifeform echelon: at the risk of repeating mircea_popescu's q -- what precisely are you aiming to find here ?
12:41 echelon i'm not active with anything atm, i'm an out of work devops eng
12:42 mircea_popescu what's a devops eng
12:42 echelon development/operations engineer
12:42 echelon for automated deployments and integrated testing
12:43 asciilifeform echelon: tell us about sumthing you've engineered ?
12:43 echelon i worked for hbo, setup their forensic watermarking service
12:44 mircea_popescu more's the thing : is this something you actually are, in the sense of having spent a decade+ doing it, or is it something you simply http://trilema.com/2013/search-and-destroy/#selection-65.1-65.96 wish-to-be ?
12:44 echelon worked for a bitcoin exchange
12:46 ben_vulpes clickin buttons in bezosnet and mashin tab in intellij?
12:47 asciilifeform !!up echelon
12:47 * ben_vulpes tragically intimate, ftr
12:47 mircea_popescu what the fuck is a forensic watermark anyway ? don't you have to have the watermarks ~before~ you can "forensic" ?
12:48 deedbot echelon voiced for 30 minutes.
12:48 echelon ben_vulpes: yeah, on bezosnet, but using the api for automated provisioning with ansible and stuff
12:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: copyrasty crackpottery, where 'seekrit bitz in .avi so to find which cinema leaked to piratebay'
12:48 mircea_popescu what's this supposed to even be, in human language, "i wrote the bills of purchase for the project manager in charge of provisioning the one room in hbo tower where they take copied hard-drives to see whether there's hbo shows on them, aka devops eng" ?
12:48 echelon mircea_popescu: it's like stegonagraphic watermarking, so even if you resize the video resolution, they could forensically identify the source of the piracy
12:49 asciilifeform i'm moar than a little bit surprised that d00d admits to having perpetrated such lulz, just it alone takes 9000 yrs in purgatory to atone for
12:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform imo he's just repeating something he's read online.
12:49 asciilifeform prolly
12:49 asciilifeform parsimonious hypothesis
12:50 mircea_popescu which is i guess an ok strategy, both for the http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/ fucktards as well as for the sirius/vandroyi/whatever-style "i am disgusted with you morons" autists.
12:52 mircea_popescu consider alf, that you're not the only one to have noticed http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939 ; most intelligent people in fact did. you're just among the few to have managed to break through the usual disease of intelligent people, aka http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1641209
12:52 a111 Logged on 2017-04-09 23:14 mircea_popescu: "who do you think will win, mr 13, the team with two guys and monkeys or the team with three guys and monkeys ?"
12:54 * asciilifeform suspects that at this point the primo disease of intelligent folx is the bottle. but this, i suppose, also
12:57 mircea_popescu they're pretty much the same i think.
12:57 echelon asciilifeform: it was watermarked in real-time on their "go" service
12:57 mircea_popescu drinking by yourself, you know. what the fuck is it ? some variant of the above.
12:57 echelon i dunno if they do anything different now
12:58 mircea_popescu was that a "stream over internet hbo shows" thing ?
12:58 asciilifeform echelon: copyrasts' 'technical investments' are possibly some of the dumbest schemes on this side of emperor qin shihuangdi's hg immortality pills
12:59 asciilifeform what exactly is to keep 3 users from taking their 3 'marked' copies and xor'ing together.
12:59 echelon mircea_popescu: yeah, it was actually a separate service from "now" streaming service
12:59 echelon "go" was an offering for cable/satellite subscribers
12:59 mircea_popescu mkay. and the idea was to put the ip or w/e of the "subscriber" into the downloads so that if they turn up on torrents hbo lawyers know what soccer mom to send abusive readers' digest spam to ?
13:00 mircea_popescu ie, a job that's strictly impossible in the general case, but then again dealing with the sort of morons who actually care about hbo, so not quite hard to do in particular.
13:01 echelon yeah, but most pirates just ripped from a tv tuner anyway, so i don't think it had much effect
13:01 BingoBoingo lol
13:01 asciilifeform ahahaha
13:02 mircea_popescu and so it's "devops" because what exactly, you wrote them a ruby gem or w/e. ?
13:02 echelon no, i just worked with ansible and aws api's mostly
13:03 mircea_popescu the chicks that commission actual installations for me, be it an acre of ground-to-ground missile tubes or a parking lot, are devops. not the chicks that copy recipe books.
13:03 echelon and log centralization and alerts
13:03 asciilifeform 'i am atomic engineer' 'tell us about sumthing you engineered' 'well, i swept floor of reactor room for coupla weeks'
13:03 mircea_popescu but be that as it may. there's ~nothing of interest to you here, so you can just safely forget about it.
13:04 asciilifeform 'which reactor, at least?' 'pons & fleischmann's'
13:05 echelon hmm alright
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13:27 asciilifeform !#s yellow dots
13:27 a111 13 results for "yellow dots", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=yellow%20dots
13:27 asciilifeform the 'colour of bits' lulz will prolly never die.
13:30 asciilifeform https://archive.is/YZOc4 << the 'colour of bits' thing, ftr, iirc orig thread was prior to archivebot
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14:30 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873244 << Thank you ben_vulpes; looking through this, now.
14:30 a111 Logged on 2018-11-18 07:12 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6, BingoBoingo: the mistake in july's statement is all mine: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/POt9B/?raw=true
14:30 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873247 << Will check and see what's what.
14:30 a111 Logged on 2018-11-18 07:13 ben_vulpes: mod6: i ask for your corroboration of a log line in that letter.
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14:59 trinque for those waiting on withdrawals, I'll return and complete them once I stock back up on .....paper! brb
15:00 trinque big transactions take a lulzy amount of the stuff to import into the cold wallet
15:00 mod6 BingoBoingo: Can you confirm for us all that you have '0.20113128 BTC' (from ben_vulpes' note above) set aside from bbisp, etc? I only ever see ".2xxxx" mentioned in places.
15:00 trinque just wrote a tool to minimize the human component of doing that, though.
15:02 BingoBoingo mod6: I can confirm
15:02 mod6 Ok great.
15:02 mod6 Thanks.
15:03 mod6 ben_vulpes: An interesting item from your note says:
15:03 mod6 "Let's show what we're filtering out as well:", to which this tx, amount, and date appear:
15:04 mod6 d10b713fd66312f2a498b8b93620d87836283bafcbd4b969b1b842ccf11b2beb | ben_vulpes | 6.56190000 | 2018-07-11 06:52:43.265797-07 | Transfer of entirety of outstanding Pizarro funds to deedbot wallet.
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15:04 mod6 (1 row)
15:04 mod6 The amount and the date appear to be off to me.
15:10 mod6 Before that tx, where you send me the remaining pizarro funds, my balance was "0.08479669 BTC".
15:11 mod6 This is how much I received, and on the 15th
15:11 mod6 pay | ben_vulpes | mod6 | 6.21445021 | 6.29924690 | 2018-07-15 05:29:59.365463+00
15:12 mod6 (this all from what I consider to be the 'source-of-truth'; my deedbot wallet ledger)
15:18 mod6 I can confirm that approximately ".2" was said to be held in BingoBoingo's custody outside of the deedbot wallet. And I can confirm that I have notes that state that you paid mats .3, and to reduce the amount by .5 total.
15:19 mod6 Anyway, if it's helpful, I'm happy to sign my deedbot wallet ledger and publish it for those to review. Just say the word and will do.
15:20 mod6 trinque could even audit my publication and signoff that it indeed matches his records if need be.
15:29 mod6 Anyway, we all know that I'm not very clued on this stuff, but I don't see how your records say you sent '6.56190000' to me, and my deedbot wallet ledger shows '6.21445021'.
15:37 mod6 Ok, I see where you got that number now.
15:38 mod6 http://pizarroisp.net/2018/07/15/june-statement/ << Shows that we had a end-of-June cash balance of '6.71445021'. And you subtracted off .5 from that amount, and sent it to me.
15:38 mod6 !Qcalc 6.71445021 - 0.50000000
15:38 lobbesbot mod6: 6.21445021
15:39 mod6 Not sure why the dates are off a bit, but the amount seems to make sense to me now.
15:40 mod6 Does that complete any corroboration that you were looking for?
15:41 mod6 (Thank you again for conducting this audit, I very much appreciate it.)
15:50 jurov !!invoice BingoBoingo 0.02 CoinBr asset transfer
15:50 lobbesbot jurov: Sent 2 days, 5 hours, and 24 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/SSwUv/?raw=true
15:50 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nQxh6/?raw=true
15:51 jurov !!v 5D4542B2AB14558C471992A29B4050DBF1C692C165925B2BB7D6F5697A6FF7CE
15:51 deedbot Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.02 << CoinBr asset transfer
15:52 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873291 - noted and added to the list though it might still take some time to get up to speed with ffa again
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15:52 a111 Logged on 2018-11-18 16:57 asciilifeform: unrelatedly, ave1 , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , phf , other folx with a gnat and 10min of free time -- asciilifeform would like to see outputs of http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/thousand_muls.txt ( ch12 benchmark ) on various irons
15:52 jurov BingoBoingo: diana_coman: the shares were pushed
15:54 diana_coman jurov, BingoBoingo confirmed, I can see them; thanks!
16:00 trinque mod6: you don't want me derping about like I'm republican transunion. there isn't such a thing.
16:03 mod6 As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know.
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16:06 trinque the wot is already the mechanism to do what you're trying to get me to do.
16:07 trinque and it's better than the imperial "some faceless dork with a hat vouches for everyone"
16:07 mod6 True, at the end of the day, someone has to take my word for it though when it comes to me signing my ledger.
16:08 mod6 Someway to cross-reference this if need-be could be a service. But like I said. Whateves.
16:10 trinque certainly not whatever. I'm not becoming a source of information about people's bot use. the panopticon habits are not made clean when somebody calling himself a lord picks them up.
16:10 trinque it is *your* choice what you say about yourself and that's where it ends.
16:10 mod6 Cool.
16:22 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873457 << that's the transfer from a trb wallet to my deedbot account, notice that 'tx_to' is 'ben_vulpes'
16:22 a111 Logged on 2018-11-18 20:04 mod6: d10b713fd66312f2a498b8b93620d87836283bafcbd4b969b1b842ccf11b2beb | ben_vulpes | 6.56190000 | 2018-07-11 06:52:43.265797-07 | Transfer of entirety of outstanding Pizarro funds to deedbot wallet.
16:23 mod6 ben_vulpes: makes sense, thanks.
16:24 ben_vulpes mod6: sorry for the obtuse ask last night. it's not strictly necessary, but i would like you to corroborate that i wrote those two lines to you in a private message on that date. if you grep for "once i get your signoff", you'll find what i'm talking about.
16:24 mod6 I do have logs of that, would you like me to paste them here?
16:27 mod6 Here ya go:
16:27 mod6 (18:24) <ben_vulpes> once i get your signoff on that report, i'll send the balance of the cash to your deedbot account
16:27 mod6 (18:25) <ben_vulpes> .2 is sitting in bingoboingo's posession, and .3 was sent to mats in july, so reduce the cash balance by .5 and that's what i'll deliver you
16:28 ben_vulpes works for me, ty
16:28 mod6 np.
16:28 ben_vulpes in retrospect, doing any of this in pm was entirely unnecessary and counterproductive.
16:29 mod6 no disagreement.
16:32 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-18#1873485 << dood, what's with you and wanting to break ~every single item of design~.
16:32 a111 Logged on 2018-11-18 21:03 mod6: As you wish, you're a trusted bitcoin lord though, and you could even charge a fee for a service, perhaps? But what do I know.
16:33 mod6 I dunno, bad idea I guess. Just realized that there really is no way to verify someones ledger.
16:33 mod6 Other than just by what people say.
16:33 mircea_popescu kinda the point, yeh.
16:33 mod6 I guess I didn't know that.
16:34 mod6 I actually figured, that in the case where or if someone's deedbot history was ever called into question, someone would verify the claim.
16:37 mod6 Anyway, I apologize for bringing it up.
16:40 trinque if someone shows me the thing didn't work, I go fix a bug, but dispute resolution between users happens in *your* courts, not mine. if I later condescend to involve myself in the affairs of lowlier folks than anyone present, it'll come yes with a hefty fee, or hanging both, or whatever most dissuades the behavior.
16:42 mircea_popescu mod6 that's fine and dandy, but look how the logic works : 1) the republic exists principally as a succession of schelling points, meaning that "given a situation of structure X, republican will land on selection y" ; 2) the impression is hard to shake that with ~extreme regularity~ your landing diverges from that y, and in specific ways. which leads to 3) somehow mod6 ended up mentally at odds with the fundamentals of tmsr,
16:42 mircea_popescu which then leads to the suspicion that 4) regular dosing with idiocy through direct exposure in his daily life is poisoning mod6.
16:43 mod6 I didn't think that was the case! I thought I was being quite logical, tbh.
16:44 mod6 Anyway, I know I've fallen out of favor with many, for apparent idiocy.
16:44 mod6 Like I said, Mr. P. I'll be stepping away. I only remain just to answer ben_vulpes's questions.
16:46 mircea_popescu no, i know, that's the problem. you thought you were being logical, and the logical thread you were following went along the lines of...
16:48 mod6 I didn't mean any offense by the thread, I hope you and trinque will forgive.
16:49 mircea_popescu nobody's offended, man. we're concerned, because you seem to have contracted earworm.
16:51 trinque yeah, I'm not looking for an emotional connection here when I'm talking to you.
16:51 trinque you responded to 0% of the substance of what I said, and came back with "sorry you don't like me". come on, give it some effort!
16:52 mod6 Maybe being around here so long has blurred the lines for me, I consider you guys my friends.
16:52 mod6 Perhaps, a mistake.
16:52 trinque I don't see how I'm not being a friend, if you like.
16:52 mod6 Well, to your point of "emotional".
16:54 mod6 And to the 0% part, I just responded "Cool." because you reminded me of what was right and proper.
16:55 mod6 I have no real argument with your wanting to stay out of any type of arguments, or discuss anyones deedbot tx's. Which, is the rightful thing to do.
16:56 mod6 Basically, if someone says, "mod6 is liar!", and I publish my deedbot ledger, well, then it stands alone. To be evaluated at face value.
16:59 mod6 Thanks for the wake-up call.
16:59 * mod6 will bbl to answer q's if required.
16:59 trinque taking it the other way, now there's this process where trinque swears to whoever's ledger that asks (fee or not, doesn't matter here). this comes to signify something, trustworthiness, w/e., can go to wells fargo now and bring in this credit report to get a mortgage. now folks come churn deedbot to produce this empty signifier. later trinque is asked to you know, DETECT FRAUD, maybe with machine learning
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16:59 trinque even!
17:00 trinque if you don't see how this leads straight to the contemporary hell, you do need to take that vacation.
17:01 mod6 I see your point totally.
17:01 mod6 *nod*
17:01 mod6 Alright. bbl.
~ 17 minutes ~
17:19 mircea_popescu hey, we went through a week or so of nubbins going "mp is a liar!!!", did exactly jack.
17:23 mod6 Ah, I recall.
17:25 mod6 You know, I just went for a quick walk, and the cold air did me some good. I think maybe part of my problem is that the stress from being in the soup for the better part of a year has been a bit rough on me mentally. Been saying idiotic things without thinking, pasting shit without thinking, etc. I dunno feels like a bit of sand-falling through my hands - trying to get back into the good graces without ta
17:25 mod6 king the explicit time to get my head screwed back on straight.
17:26 mircea_popescu well so take it easy.
17:26 mod6 I do appreciate the wake up call, and I take your words to hard. I'll do better to take a long rest/break and stop spinning my damn brain so hard.
17:26 mod6 *heart
17:27 mod6 *nod* alright, I gotta run here for a bit. but will bbl. <3
~ 30 minutes ~
17:58 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/11/brexit-set-to-break-britains-government-and-theresa-may/ << Qntra - Brexit Set To Break Britain's Government And Theresa May
18:06 mircea_popescu schmucks.
~ 21 minutes ~
18:28 BingoBoingo What else can you expect from the prototypical Pantsuit slave society
~ 57 minutes ~
19:25 deedbot http://bvt-trace.net/2018/11/ada-system-calls-genesis/ << bvt's backtrace - Ada System Calls: Genesis
~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~
21:04 BingoBoingo http://bingology.net/2018/11/19/collected-lessons-about-mp-wp-after-rebuilding-this-blog-again/
21:16 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo not bad, though i prefer the fully formatted style, with dates etc, like in http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/ or http://trilema.com/2017/06/ etc.
~ 1 hours 9 minutes ~
22:26 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'll give it a play with as I work through more punch list items
~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~
23:41 mircea_popescu bvt but i mean... what's the logic of an "empty genesis" ?
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